May 24, 2021 Health &amp; Human Services Committee

MEETING BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FOR US TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND THE BUDGET AND PERHAPS ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE COME OUT OF ANY OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSIONS THAT RELATE TO PUBLIC HEALTH, OR IS THAT BETTER? IS THAT BEST SUITED IN TIMBER? SO THE TIMING IS RIGHT FOR THAT.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

TOBO I AGREE THAT HAVING THE NOVEMBER DATE BE WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH WOULD BE GOOD JUST FOR CONSISTENCY.

AND THEN ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE TIME FOR THE SUGGESTION, BUT I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION.

IS THERE, WOULD THE JUNE

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UM, I THINK IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHEN, UH, WHEN THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSIONS ARE GETTING THOSE TO US, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY, IF WE HAVE THAT MEETING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A VERY APPROPRIATE TOPIC.

SO THANKS FOR THAT SUGGESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN DONE.

IF WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DIG INTO ANY DETAILS, SO THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL ON THAT.

SO WE'LL PLAN ON THAT.

UM, AND PERHAPS WE CAN COMMUNICATE IF THAT LOOKS LIKE OUR ONLY AGENDA TOPIC, MAYBE WE CAN COMMUNICATE WHETHER WE WANT TO GO FORWARD OR WE'RE NOT DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE.

I KNOW OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS IN JUNE ARE GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY PACKED.

SO WE MAY, WE MAY FIND THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THAT TIME TO FOCUS ON COUNCIL PREP, COUNCIL, MEETING PREP.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE CALENDAR? WELL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN MOVES APPROVAL, UH, VICE CHAIR, QUINTAS SECONDS.

IT ALL IN FAVOR.

THAT, UH, PASSES, UM, UNANIMOUSLY WITH MAYOR PRO TEM AND THE MAYOR OFF THE DIOCESE.

SO LET'S SEE.

WELL, I HATE TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE WITHOUT, UM, TWO OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE NEED TO MAKE PROGRESS HERE.

SO LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER FOUR.

OR ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD START WITH FOUR OR THREE? WHAT WOULD YOU, WHAT ARE YOUR SUGGESTIONS? WE CAN MOVE AHEAD WITH CHANGING THE NAME.

I DOUBT HAVE ANY CONCERN.

SO LET'S, UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT NUMBER FOUR STAFF.

[4. Discussion and possible action relating to changing the name of the Health and Human Services Committee to the Public Health Committee and amending Section 2-5-103 (Council Committees Created; Subject Matter of Each Committee) of the City Code.]

I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAD THOUGHTS FOR US OR, UM, ITEMS TO CONSIDER WITH REGARD TO THIS, OR IF THIS IS JUST A, A COUNCIL DRIVEN CONVERSATION.

I'VE I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT SO LONG.

I'VE FORGOTTEN WHO STARTED, WHO STARTED THE TOPIC? OKAY.

DO ANY OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH STAFF WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, ON THIS, UM, POSSIBLE ACTION TO CHANGE THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMITTEE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT NAME CHANGE? OKAY.

THAT'S THE NUMBER? THIS IS LUCY THOMPSON.

I'M NOT SURE IF, UM, INTERIM DIRECTOR, ADRIAN STIRRUP IS ON THE CALL.

I KNOW ACM HAYDEN HOWARD IS IN ANOTHER MEETING.

UM, BUT THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM THE STAFF WAS POSITIVE.

AND I HAD TALKED TO ASHLEY IN YOUR OFFICE ABOUT MAKING THIS, UH, ITEM FROM COMMITTEE OVER TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS PROPOSAL? I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

DO YOU WANT TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT? A WALKING MOTION? WE CAN HAVE WALKING MOTIONS HERE CAUSE I THINK THAT'S FINE.

I MOVE THAT.

WE MAKE THE NAME CHANGE TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

AND, UH, VICE CHAIR FOR CINTAS.

SECOND SET ALL IN FAVOR, UNANIMOUS ON THE DIGEST WITH THE FOLKS OFF WHO WERE OFF EARLIER.

UM, SO THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

UM, LUCY, IS THAT POSSIBLE TO GET, COULD YOU, WILL YOU GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT ON THE NEXT APPROPRIATE AGENDA FOR JUNE? ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING CARE OF THAT.

LET'S DISCUSS, LET'S MOVE ON TO NUMBER THREE AND SEE AT LEAST GO AHEAD AND SEE THE PRESENTATION.

[3. Discussion and possible action regarding the creation of a joint advisory body to discuss public health issues.]

WE MIGHT WANT TO POSTPONE ACTION TO ANOTHER MEETING IF WE DON'T HAVE OUR COLLEAGUES JOIN US HERE SOON.

GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS.

THIS IS MYRNA RIOS FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

UM, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CREATION OF A JOINT COMMISSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING, UH, THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES.

UM, A JOINT COMMISSION, UM, AS YOU ARE AWARE, IS ESTABLISHED BY THE COUNCIL AND ANOTHER ENTITY.

SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION, THE OTHER ENTITY IS TRAVIS COUNTY.

UM, SO THE BODY WOULD BE COMPRISED OF MEMBERS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND TRAVIS COUNTY FOR THIS CASE

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WHERE COUNCIL WILL DEFINE THE SUBJECT MATTERS.

UM, COUNSEL WILL THEN DETERMINE THE SIZE AND COMPLIANCE, UM, SUCH AS WILL IT BE SUBJECT TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, WILL THERE BE A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS? WILL THE NOMINATED MEMBERS BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO TRAINING AND ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENTS AND WILL THE APPLICANTS BE REQUIRED TO MEET A DESIRED EXPERTISE? UM, ONCE ALL OF THIS IS DETERMINED, THEN THE JOINT COMMISSION WILL BE ESTABLISHED BY RESOLUTION.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, SHOULD THIS COMMITTEE INITIATE THE CREATION OF THE JOINT COMMISSION? THE COMMITTEE WILL BE REQUIRED TO APPROVE A RECOMMENDATION TO BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL.

UM, AND I HAVE SEE WITH CO-SPONSORS FOR A RESOLUTION WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE PLACED ON A COUNCIL AGENDA.

THEN COUNCIL WILL TAKE ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION, CREATING THE JOINT COMMISSION ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA.

UM, THE RESOLUTION TO BE ATTACHED, OR THAT WILL CREATE THE, THE COMMISSION WILL REQUIRE TO LIST THE PURPOSE AND SPECIFIC DUTIES OF THE JOINT COMMISSION, THE SIZE OF THE COMMISSION.

UM, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR THIS COMMISSION, THE INTEREST IS A MEMBERSHIP OF SEVEN.

SO FOUR WOULD BE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL AND THREE WOULD BE APPOINTED BY TRAVIS COUNTY.

UM, IT SHOULD LIST THE SPECIFIC MEMBERSHIP QUALIFICATIONS, UM, SUCH AS IF THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE IN HEALTHCARE LONG-TERM CARE, ET CETERA.

UM, WILL THE MEMBERS BE REQUIRED TO FILE A STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL INFORMATION UNDER SECTION TWO SEVEN SEVEN TWO OF THE CODE? NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE FOR APH STAFF LIAISONS TO REACH OUT TO TRAVIS COUNTY AND CONFIRM THEIR INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING, UM, UPON TRAVIS COUNTY'S APPROVAL TO PARTICIPATE, THE BODY WILL PROCEED WITH ACTUALLY THIS BODY WILL PROCEED WITH, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION AND A RESOLUTION FOR THE CREATION OF THE JOINT COMMISSION THAT, UH, CLEARLY INDICATE THE PURPOSE AND THE DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION MEMBERS, UM, THAT THE COMMISSION WILL COMPLY WITH THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND A SPECIFIC MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS.

UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.

AND I'LL TAKE QUESTIONS IF, UM, YOU HAVE ANY YES.

VICE CHAIR.

I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, UM, IF YOU COULD SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND OR CONTEXT AS TO THE DISCUSSION AROUND HAVING THIS AS A JOINT COMMISSION VERSUS A, YOU KNOW, CITY OF BOSTON COMMISSION, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT HISTORY THERE.

THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER FRONT.

THIS, THIS IS MYRNA.

I'M SORRY, VICE CHAIR.

UM, THIS IS MYRNA.

AND SO I WAS JUST BROUGHT INTO THIS.

SO I HAD TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH THIS WEEKEND.

UM, I KNOW THAT BACK IN 2018, UH, THE FORMER CHAIR, UH, HOUSTON, UM, BROUGHT THIS FORWARD AND I BELIEVE THAT HER REQUEST WAS TO CREATE A JOINT COMMITTEE AND THAT WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD BE COMPRISED OF OTHER MEMBERS OF OTHER BOARD AND COMMISSIONS.

UM, BUT, UM, THROUGH EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE THROUGH THE YEARS AND FROM WHEN JEANETTE TASKED ME WITH THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S, UM, IT APPEARS THAT THE, A NEWER, UM, COMMITTEE, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THIS COMMITTEE, UM, REQUESTED THAT IT BE A JOINT ADVISORY COMMISSION, SO THAT THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS THAT IT WOULD BE WITH ANOTHER INTER ENTITY IN THIS CASE, TRAVIS COUNTY.

UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I MEAN, I CAN, ON ONE HAND, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE IF WE PARTNERED WITH CHARVIS COUNTY, BECAUSE IT WOULD ENSURE I WOULD HOPE THAT IT COULD ENSURE THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE EASTERN AND THE ETJ PORTIONS OF THE EASTERN CRESCENT COULD HAVE A VOICE IN THAT CONVERSATION, HOW WE ADDRESS, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH IN A COMPREHENSIVE MANNER BETWEEN BOTH OF OUR GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

UM, BUT THEN THE, THE CONCERN, I HAVE NOT A CONCERN, BUT I GUESS A CONSIDERATION THAT I HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE A CENTRAL HEALTH AND WE HAVE A BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR OUR COUNTY HEALTH CARE DISTRICT.

AND SO, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BETTER UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION THERE.

I MEAN, OF COURSE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THAT QUASI GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY.

UM, BUT ANY, ANY, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, WHO COULD SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THAT LIKE WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH? WHAT IS THE INTENTION THERE? LIKE WHAT IS THE GOAL AND OBJECTIVE WITH THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN?

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UM, COUNCIL MEMBER POINT IS I THINK THAT THE, UH, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC HEALTH IS NOT IN THE REALM OF CENTRAL HEALTH.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THE DISTINCTION THERE, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, TECHNICAL DISTINCTION BETWEEN PUBLIC HEALTH AND, UM, HEALTHCARE SERVICES THAT CENTRAL HEALTH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.

NOW THAT LINE GETS BLURRED A LOT.

I KNOW YOU HAVE A BACKGROUND IN HEALTH, SO I KNOW YOU REALIZE THAT, BUT, UM, BUT I THINK THAT AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE, BE CLEAR WITH THE, UM, THE GOAL AND THE SCOPE OF THE COMMITTEE AND, UM, AND MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS APPOINTED, UNDERSTOOD THAT GOAL AND SCOPE IN ORDER FOR IT TO, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE HELPFUL.

I THINK IT COULD, COULD ADDRESS THINGS LIKE, UM, UM, UM, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT HEALTHCARE FROM A COMMUNITY PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND YOU LOOK AT IT THROUGH A PUBLIC HEALTH LENS, SO HOW DOES THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER TO ADDRESS SMOKING FOR EXAMPLE, OR, OR, UH, PREVENTATIVE KIND OF SERVICES AROUND, UM, UH, AROUND PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES, SORT OF LIKE WHAT, UH, DR.

S SCOTT'S BEEN, BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UH, FROM A CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE INNOVATIVE IN TERMS OF THINKING ABOUT VIOLENCE AS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, OR EVEN HOMELESSNESS, NOT EVEN HOMELESSNESS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE IN A LOT OF WAYS.

SO, UM, BUT I DO THINK FOR IT TO WORK, UM, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO REALLY BE CLEAR ON WHAT, WHAT THE INTENT IS OTHERWISE THERE'S, UH, OTHERWISE THERE'S, UM, THERE COULD BE CONFUSION AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, AND WE WOULD ALSO WANT FOLKS ON AND WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT IT FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO IF THAT HELPS, BUT, SO THE WAY IT HELPS ME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, THIS IS AN IDEA THAT COMES UP FROM TIME TO TIME AND WE'VE NEVER, AND I THINK IT'S ON OUR AGENDA BECAUSE SEVERAL OF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO REVISIT IT.

I HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ON MEMBERSHIP AND SOME OF THE OTHER IMMEDIATE QUESTIONS AND MYRNA, THANKS FOR TEEING UP THOSE QUESTIONS.

I THINK THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT, BUT AS AN OVERARCHING ONE, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, YOU KIND OF NAILED IT.

I THINK WE NEED TO START WITH WHAT, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE NEED THAT WE ARE IDENTIFYING THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD FAIL? WE HAVE SO MANY COMMISSIONS AND WHAT, WHAT I THINK WOULD NOT BE HELPFUL IS IF THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMISSION KIND OF HEARS, WE HAVE A FEW COMMITTEES THAT WERE COMMISSIONS THAT WORK LIKE THIS, WHERE THEY'RE BASICALLY HEARING SOME OF THE SAME PRESENTATIONS THAT OUR COUNCIL CORRESPONDING COMMITTEE IS GOING TO HEAR.

AND, AND REALLY ALL WE'VE DONE IS, UM, DOUBLE UP THE WORK FOR OUR STAFF, WHICH ISN'T HELPFUL.

SO I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL IF THOSE WHO ARE ON THIS COMMITTEE WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN, AND SEEING THIS SPEND SOME TIME THINKING ABOUT WHAT, HOW TO REALLY CRAFT THAT SCOPE IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT A VALUABLE ENTITY.

YOU KNOW, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT IT COMING INTO THIS MEETING, I WONDER THAT THE JOINT TASK FORCE, UM, THE COUNTY CITY AND AISD HAS THE ABILITY TO DO WORK GROUPS.

AND IN SOME WAYS THAT MIGHT, THAT'S A MODEL.

I JUST WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF HAVING A WORK GROUP BECAUSE THIS LAST YEAR WE COULD HAVE HAD ONE FOCUSED ON, UM, COVID, YOU KNOW, THIS NEXT YEAR WE COULD HAVE ONE FOCUSED ON HOMELESSNESS.

I MEAN, WE COULD, WE COULD BE VERY NIMBLE IF WE KEPT IT, NOT A COMMISSION, BUT REALLY A SET OF, UM, A KIND OF TASK MAYBE, OH, TASKFORCE IS A, IS A BETTER TERM FOR IT.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER MODEL.

I, THE IDEA OF HAVING, I WOULD HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE JOINT APPOINTMENTS A LITTLE BIT.

WE DO CERTAINLY HAVE OTHER COMMITTEES THAT WORK THAT WAY AND IT'S, IT JUST MAKES IT, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT CLUNKIER TO TRY TO GET THE APPOINTMENTS FROM ONE ENTITY AND THE OTHER ENTITY.

AND I WONDER IF WE MIGHT ACHIEVE THE AIM THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT VICE CHAIR FOR CINTAS, BY JUST MAKING IT CLEAR THAT OF THEIR SEVEN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE SEVEN APPOINT APPOINTEE AS BEING IN THE ATJ OR IN THE COUNTY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN BUYABLE, BUT, BUT JUST AS A STARTING PLACE, I WOULD WANT TO REALLY THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT NEED, WHAT NEED DO WE SEE THAT THIS COMMISSION WOULD FILL? AND IS IT BEST FILLED BY OUTSTANDING COMMISSION? THAT'S GOING TO MEET REGULARLY, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A PARTICULAR TASK IN FRONT OF THEM? OR DO WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT, UM, MORE, MORE LIKE STAND UP, UM, STAND UP TASK FORCES ON DIFFERENT TOPICS.

YEAH, I THINK IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO TALK TO DR.

ASCOT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE HE, HE, UH, HE WOULD HAVE A PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.

UM, I THINK, UM, ON HOW HE THINKS IT COULD BE HELPFUL OR

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NOT.

I KNOW THAT HE'S BEEN TRYING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE AND IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT PERSPECTIVE HE MIGHT HAVE ON HOW IT COULD BE HELPFUL.

I DO.

I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT IS START WITH THE WORK GROUPS AND SEE IF THAT EVOLVES INTO A COMMISSION.

SO I'M HAPPY TO DO IT EITHER WAY.

I HAVE IN THINKING ABOUT IT IN THE PAST.

I HAVE SEEN IT AS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE HELPFUL, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT IF YOU DON'T SET THE GROUP WITH A SPECIFIC TASK, IT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD JUST SPIN THEIR WHEELS.

I MEAN, I WOULDN'T WANT TO JUST SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO A COMMISSIONER, OUR WORK GROUP THAT JUST GO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON PUBLIC HEALTH.

I MEAN, THAT'S TOO BROAD FOR THEM.

YES, YES.

I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, HAVING THOSE CLEARLY DEFINED OBJECTIVES, UM, WOULD HELP SET UP THE COMMISSION OR IF IT ENDS UP BEING A WORK GROUP FOR SUCCESS.

AND THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT I AM MY INTENTION IS TO DO.

AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS WITH THE WORK GROUP, UM, CHARITABLE, ARE YOU ENVISIONING, WOULD THAT WORK GROUP BE COMPRISED OF, UH, I JUST WANT TO LIKE FLESH OUT WHAT THE WORK GROUP MODEL IS.

IS IT, IS IT COMPRISED OF EXISTING APPOINTEES TO OTHER COMMISSIONS OR IS IT, UM, LIKE, UH, WE WOULD APPOINT NEW PEOPLE THAT PERHAPS DON'T SERVE THAT DON'T CURRENTLY SERVE ON A COMMISSION OR A BOARD.

SO I, I CERTAINLY THINK WE COULD HANDLE IT EITHER WAY.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS I THINK ABOUT IT, PROBABLY TASKFORCE IS THE WORD WE USE MORE OFTEN AT THE CITY.

I USED WORK GROUP BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE JOINT SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE EXAMPLE IS THE WORK, THE WINTER STORM COMMUNITY, UM, TASK FORCE, AND THAT IS COMPRISED OF EXISTING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONERS.

AND PART OF THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE GROUP THAT IS HEARING THE COMMUNITY TESTAMENT TESTIMONY ABOUT THE STORM.

AND SO WE HAD SPECIFIED IN THAT RESOLUTION, WHICH COMMISSIONS WOULD APPOINT A MEMBER TO COME SERVE TOGETHER AS THAT VERY SHORT TERM TASK FORCE.

AND I THINK IT WORKS IN THAT SCENARIO BECAUSE IT'S VERY SHORT, VERY SHORT TERM.

WE WANTED TO STAND IT UP QUICKLY.

SO GETTING PEOPLE WHO ARE READY THROUGH THE TRAINING HAVE EXPERIENCED BEING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MADE A LOT OF SENSE.

MY, MY FEELING ABOUT IT IS THAT THE TASK FORCES ARE A GREAT WAY TO GET NEW PEOPLE INVOLVED.

SO MY PREFERENCE IN THIS WOULD PROBABLY BE TO, TO, TO HAVE TASKFORCE MEMBERS NOT SERVE ON OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

UM, BUT THAT ALLOWS US TO BE TO ONE, YOU KNOW, INVOLVE MORE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING.

AND TO, YOU KNOW, GET PEOPLE WHO ARE, WHO HAVE PARTICULAR EXPERTISE IN ONE AREA OF THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO FOCUS ON, BUT NOT NECESSARILY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY BE VERY INTERESTED IN COMING TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT, UM, SMOKING OR COMING TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ISSUE RELATED TO PUBLIC HEALTH, BUT NOT NECESSARILY WANT THE LONG-TERM COMMITMENT OF SERVING ON A COMMISSION MONTH AFTER MONTH.

SO THAT'S JUST SOME THOUGHTS THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY DO IT EITHER WAY THOUGH, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK IT COULD BE EITHER WAY.

WE, IT, YOU KNOW, WE ASK A LOT OF OUR COMMISSIONERS THOUGH, SO ASKING THEM TO SERVE ON YET.

ANOTHER BODY IS CHALLENGING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE A CITY WITH LOTS OF FOLKS WITH GREAT EXPERIENCE AND EXPERTISE WHO COULD COME, COME TOGETHER AND PARTICIPATE AND MEMBERS, THIS IS MYRNA AGAIN.

UM, SO WITH A TASK FORCE, IT IS NON COTTIFIED AND IT'S A TEMPORARY ADVISORY BODY.

SO, UM, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO CREATE SMALLER WORK GROUPS AND SO LIKELY FULFILL WHAT, UM, CHAIR TOVO WAS MENTIONING EARLIER.

MYRNA, UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE, COULD YOU SPEAK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE STAFFING? UM, HOW, PARDON ME, HOW MUCH TIME, HOW MANY STAFF WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT, UH, TO SUPPORT A COMMISSION AND THE HOURS, AND THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO SO? UM, WELL WITH A, IF YOU WERE TO PROCEED WITH A JOINT ADVISORY COMMISSION, THEN, UM, WE WOULD REQUIRE AN EXECUTIVE LIAISON AND A STAFF LIAISON FROM LIKELY THE, UM, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH.

THEY WOULD COORDINATE WITH THE OTHER ENTITY LIAISON, UM, ON APPLICATIONS AND INTERVIEWS THEN BRINGING FORWARD THEIR NOMINEES, UM, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DO WITH, UM, CENTRAL HEALTH AND, UM, MCS, UM, ANOTHER WAY TO HANDLE THE APPOINTMENTS TOO THOUGH, WOULD BE JUST, JUST TO BRING THEM FORWARD AS RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS BODY.

UM, DOES ANYONE, IS THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS HERE TODAY? I THINK MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE NOT TAKE ACTION ON IT TODAY, BUT THAT WE GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO THINK, THINK ON IT, MAYBE, UM, I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND MAYBE WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT HOW IT MIGHT WORK BEST AND, AND COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL.

WE HAVE SOMETIMES DONE NOMINEES WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT EXPENSIVE INTERVIEW PROCESSES, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT IS ANOTHER, WE DO HAVE THAT MODEL FOR THE SOBERING CENTER AND CENTRAL HEALTH AND MCS.

WELL, THERE'S QUITE A BIT TO THINK ABOUT,

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I'M HAPPY TO HELP TALK TO DR.

ASCOT AND SEE IF, SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO A PROPOSAL, RIGHT.

UM, WORK WITH, WITH WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON IT.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

AND MAYBE, UM, ARE THERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS.

HAVING TASK FORCE, UH, ISSUE, SPECIFIC TASK FORCES VERSUS THE COMMISSION, HAVING IT BE A JOINT BODY WITH THE COUNTY VERSUS JUST A CITY.

ARE THERE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT WEEKS? UM, NO, I THINK YOU'VE GOT THEM ALL.

SO THERE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS.

ONE WOULD BE A PERMANENT BORDER COMMISSION.

THE OTHER WOULD BE A TASK FORCE AND THE THIRD WOULD BE A JOINT BODY.

SO THAT BRINGS US TO OUR OMA, OUR PENULTIMATE ITEM, UM, IDENTIFY ITEMS TO DISCUSS AT FUTURE MEETINGS.

AND AGAIN, MYRNA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I KNOW YOU'VE LAID OUT SOME OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US.

WOULD IT BE SUBJECT TO OPEN MEETINGS AND SOME OF THE OTHER, SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT IN A WAY ARE GOING TO BE EASIER? I THINK THEN I THINK WE NEED TO START WITH THAT FIRST SCOPE QUESTION.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY THOSE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE SHOULD BE, BE THINKING ABOUT TOO.

SO THANKS FOR REMINDING ME SURE.

THAT THOSE QUESTIONS IN THE PRESENTATION ARE ALSO ONES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ANSWERED.

AND THANK YOU.

I I'M AWARE THAT YOU SAID YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT IT THIS WEEKEND OR WORKING ON IT THIS WEEKEND.

SO I APOLOGIZE.

YOU WORK VERY HARD.

I'M SORRY THAT YOU WERE WORKING OVER THE WEEKEND ON THIS.

NO WORRIES.

THANKS FOR, THANKS FOR DOING THAT PRESENTATION FOR US TODAY.

OTHER THOUGHTS? OKAY, WELL, WE'LL REVISIT THIS NEXT MONTH.

IF IT, IF IT SEEMS LIKE THE RIGHT TIME, UM, OR WE'RE IN A SUBSEQUENT,

[7. Identify items to discuss at future meetings.]

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY, AT THIS POINT BEFORE WE TURNED TO OUR HOMELESSNESS BRIEFING? YES YES.

I THINK JUST THE BUDGET TOPIC, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY TO COALESCE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMISSIONS IN ANY OTHER COMMISSION THAT HAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT DEALS WITH HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, I WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF GET A, A BRIEFING ON THAT.

SO NOW WE CAN TURN TO OUR LAST, OUR LAST ISSUE AND THAT'S, THAT IS A FOLLOW-UP ON OUR BRIEFING FROM LAST MONTH.

ANY OTHERS TO SUGGEST TODAY? OKAY.

[2. Briefing and discussion on issues related to homelessness.]

UM, SO I, UH, LET'S SEE, LET ME SEE, WHO ARE OUR STAFF OR JOINING US FOR THIS COUNCIL MEMBER TOBA.

THIS IS DIANA GRAY.

HI, DIANA GRAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, COLLEAGUES, I UNDERSTAND TOO, THAT WE HAVE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A NEW DOCUMENT FROM OUR HOMELESS STRATEGY OFFICER AND OTHERS, AND THAT IS, THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED AT 10 24.

SO YES, JUST, UM, WE CAN APPROACH THIS, HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE.

UM, AND I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I DON'T REMEMBER PRECISELY WHERE WE WERE IN THE PRESENTATION LAST TIME.

UH, AND, BUT WE CAN GO OVER THAT.

AND THEN I, THERE ARE ELEMENTS IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WAS JUST DISTRIBUTED, THAT ARE UPDATES FROM WHAT IS HERE IN THE PREVIOUS BRIEFING.

THAT IS WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO DO THAT UPDATE.

UH, I'M TAKING A LOOK AT IT NOW AND IT'S REALLY HELPFUL COLLEAGUES.

WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION AND, AND WE HAD, I THINK WE JUMPED AROUND IN OUR QUESTIONS AND SO THERE'S NO REAL CLEAR PLACE TO BEGIN.

UM, SO I WOULD SUGGEST WE, WE JUST KIND OF TAKE IT TOPIC BY TOPIC AND IN COMBINATION WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT WE RECEIVED LAST TIME AND THE UPDATE TODAY, AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE MEANTIME, WE JUST, WE JUST, UM, TAKE IT ISSUE BY ISSUE.

SO DOES THAT SOUND GOOD OR DOES SOMEBODY ELSE ANYBODY HAVE A DIFFERENT YEAH.

PARTICULARLY, PARTICULARLY WITH THE UPDATES.

SO, AND MAYBE WE START WITH ANYTHING THAT, UM, DIANA MIGHT SUGGEST THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A PARTICULAR AREA THAT'S MORE OF AN UPGRADE THAN OTHER, OR NOT UPGRADE, BUT MORE OF AN UPDATE THAN OTHERS.

SO MAYBE WE START THERE OR WHAT DO YOU THINK? SURE.

I WOULD SAY TWO OF THE AREAS THAT WE, UM, NEW INFORMATION TO, TO TALK THROUGH WOULD BE, UH, PRO LARGESS AND, UH, HEAL.

AND SO THEY WERE BRIEF, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THERE AND THEN WE CAN SPEAK TO, UH, WHETHER, UH, MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER ITEMS, UH, HAPPY TO DO

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THAT.

SO LET ME START WITH, UH, PRO LODGES AND SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THAT PROLOGUE NUMBER FIVE HAS NOW BEEN DEMOBILIZED AS A PRO LODGE, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THAT FACILITY IS BEING CONVERTED TO BRIDGE SHELTER, UH, TO BE UTILIZED FIRST OF ALL, FOR THE HEAL INITIATIVE.

AND SO IT HAS BEEN VACATED, UH, ROOMS HAVE BEEN CLEANED AND REPAIRED.

AND, UM, AND I THINK THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, OF MAKE READY WITH A GOAL OF HAVING THE FACILITY STAFFED BY, UH, JUNE 1ST, WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING OUR CONTRACT.

THAT WAS A CON UH, UH, CONTRACT THAT WAS AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL ON MAY 6TH.

SO I HAVE NOT, UH, IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, CHECKED IN WITH CONTRACTING STAFF, BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO DO IN, UM, IN TANDEM.

I ANTICIPATE THAT OUR INITIAL TRANSFER OF INDIVIDUALS FROM OUR TERRAIN AND ENCAMPMENTS TO THAT, THAT, UH, SHELTER WILL NOT TAKE PLACE ON, ON JUNE 1ST.

AND SO, UM, BASED ON THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE FIRST ENCAMPMENT, BUT SOON THEREAFTER.

AND SO, AND WE KNEW IT WAS A PRESS FOR FRONT STEPS, WHO IS OUR PROVIDER THERE TO, UH, TO BE READY BY THEN.

BUT WHAT WE'RE HOPING IS THAT, UH, THEY CAN WORK OUT SOME OF THE KINKS AND, AND, AND IRON OUT ANY OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS DURING THAT EARLY PERIOD.

SO THAT LEAVES US WITH FOUR PRO LODGES WITH A TOTAL CAPACITY OF 290 ROUTES OF THOSE 40 ARE OUT OF CAPACITY.

AND THAT IS LARGELY AT PROLOGUE.

NUMBER FOUR, OUR ELEVATOR IS NOT WORKING.

AND SO THE, SOME OF THOSE UPPER FLOORS ARE NOT FUNCTIONAL AT PRESENT.

I'M GUESSING THE THIRD FLOOR.

UM, ALTHOUGH I HAVE NOT CONVERTED THAT.

AND THEN OF THOSE REMAINING THEN 250 ROOMS, 134 ARE OCCUPIED, WHICH GIVES US AN OCCUPANCY OF AVAILABLE ROOMS OF 54%.

BUT WE ARE READY TO DEMOBILIZE PROLOGUE NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS THERE, UH, THE OCCUPANCY IS QUITE LOW THERE.

AND ONCE WE DO SO AND TRANSFER ANY REMAINING GUESTS TO THE REMAINING THREE PRO LODGES, WE WOULD BE AT APPROXIMATELY 70% CAPACITY.

WE ARE OF COURSE, CONTINUING TO, UM, ASSESS DEMOBILIZATION BASED ON, UH, OUR CENSUS BASED ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE VIRUS IN TERMS OF, UH, OF HOW WELL WE'RE DOING.

OF COURSE, WE'VE ENTERED STAGE TWO NOW.

SO THAT WOULD ARGUE FOR A CONTINUED MOVEMENT TOWARDS DEMOBILIZATION.

OF COURSE, WE ARE HOPING TO, UH, PLACE FOLKS, UH, WHO ARE IN THE PRO LODGES RIGHT NOW INTO HOUSING.

UH, OUR TOTAL CENSUS IS ONE 43.

THE REASON THAT THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE NUMBER OF OCCUPIED ROOMS IS THAT THERE ARE SOME COUPLES, UH, IN SOME CASES, SO THEY ARE OCCUPYING SLIGHTLY FEWER ROOMS. AND OF THOSE 143, ALMOST 90% ARE NOW CONNECTED TO A HOUSING PROGRAM.

SO I GOT US FANTASTIC NEWS, UM, AND THEY WOULD THEN BE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING DOCUMENTATION TOGETHER, ET CETERA, AND LOOKING FOR A UNIT.

UH, AND WE OF COURSE CONTINUE TO LOOK TO CONNECT THE REMAINING, UH, GUESTS WITH THE PROGRAM BECAUSE WE HAVE NOW EXECUTED OUR, ONE OF OUR ESG CV, RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM CONTRACTS WITH, UH, WITH CARITAS AND THE BSS PLUS COLLABORATIVE MEMBERS.

OUR HOPE IS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO PLACE THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN RELATIVELY SHORT ORDER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, UH, YOU HAD ASKED FOR ACTUALLY COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO, UH, IN THE LAST MEETING WAS SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL ON EXITS, UH, THE TABLE THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE TWO PAGERS THAT, THAT I PROVIDED DOES NOT GIVE ALL OF THAT DETAIL.

UM, BUT WE WILL ENDEAVOR TO HAVE THAT READY FOR THE JUNE 9TH MEETING.

AND SO WE HAVE HAD 201, UH, AS OF, I BELIEVE THE FIFTH OF THE MONTH EXITS TO HOUSING, AND THEN WE HAD THIS SORT OF DETAILS WHAT THE OTHER EXITS HAVE BEEN.

UH, CERTAINLY WE HAVE HAD, UH, YOU KNOW, A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THOSE ARE UNKNOWN.

UH, PEOPLE DO OCCASIONALLY LEAVE WITHOUT AN EXIT INTERVIEW OR ABANDONED, UH, A ROOM.

UM, WE'RE CERTAINLY STRIVING TO GET MORE INFORMATION WHEN WE CAN, BUT THAT IS A REALITY.

UM, AND THEN I WOULD SAY THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME EXITS, WHICH I WOULD VIEW AS NEUTRAL IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT, UM, OUR WORK AT THE PRO LODGES, OBVIOUSLY

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IN THE VERY UNFORTUNATE INSTANCE OF SOMEONE PASSING AWAY.

UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THAT IS, DOES NOT REALLY SPEAK TO THE OPERATION OF THE PRO LODGE.

UH, WE, ONE OF THE PIECES OF DATA YOU HAD ASKED FOR COUNCIL MEMBER WAS WHAT THE SORT OF CAUSE OF DEATH WERE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING THERE, I WILL SAY SIMPLY THAT WE ARE, OF COURSE TARGETING THE MOST MEDICALLY FRAGILE PEOPLE TO COME INTO A PROLOGUE.

SO THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY UNANTICIPATED.

WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE GO TO HEALTHCARE FACILITIES, UH, SOME PEOPLE, UM, ENTERING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AT THE PRO LODGES, AS YOU KNOW, FOLKS HAVE TECHNICAL VIOLATIONS OF PROBATION OR PAROLE, ET CETERA.

UM, WE CAN WORK WITH GREG MCCORMICK, WHO'S, UH, OUR INCIDENT COMMANDER FOR PRO LODGES IF WE WANT MORE INFORMATION THERE.

BUT, UM, I THINK THAT THE THINGS THAT WE, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO SOLVE FOR CERTAINLY ARE THE KNOWN EXITS TO UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS, UH, AND IN SOME CASES THE EXITS TO SHELTER, ALTHOUGH I WOULD SAY THOSE ARE MORE OF A MIXED BAG.

UM, FOLKS MADE DETERMINED THAT THEY, FOR WHATEVER REASON ARE MORE COMFORTABLE IN SHELTER.

UH, WE CERTAINLY THINK THAT THEY ARE SAFER IN THERE NOW THAN THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY GIVEN THE AVAILABILITY OF VACCINE.

UM, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRACK THESE AND TRY TO TEASE OUT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL NUMBERS, UM, THAT THE, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE ASKED FOR GOING FORWARD, COUNCILMEMBER KITCHEN, IS THIS A GOOD PLACE TO STOP? AND THAT IS OKAY IF WE STOP HERE AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

UM, I'M CURIOUS WHETHER WE, UM, UM, WE CAN THEN TRACK WHAT HAPPENS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, AND YOU MAY BE SPEAKING TO TRYING TO SUSS THAT OUT, BUT SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE EXITS TO SHELTER OR TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM OR TO A HEALTH CARE FACILITY, WHAT THEN HAPPENS WITH THEM AFTER THAT, DO THESE FOLKS HAVE ASSIGNED TO CASE MANAGERS WHO FOLLOW THEM SO THAT WE HAVE A ABILITY TO GET THE SOURCE OF WHAT THEN HAPPENS TO THEM AFTER THAT EXIT, PARTICULARLY FOR A HEALTHCARE FACILITY? UM, I'D BE CURIOUS WHETHER THAT MEANS A HOSPITAL, A REHAB FACILITY OR SOMETHING MORE LONG-TERM, UM, AND WOULD THINK THAT WE COULD THEN TRACK WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM AFTER THAT, LET ME WORK WITH GREG MCCORMACK ON THAT FRONT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT CERTAINLY WE HAVE SERVICE PROVIDERS ONSITE AT THE PROLOGIS WHO ARE NOT NECESSARILY ONLY THE LONG-TERM CASE MANAGERS.

ONCE THEY'RE REFERRED TO A HOUSING PROGRAM, IT WAS UNCLEAR TO ME THE DEGREE TO WHICH THEY ARE ABLE TO FOLLOW FOLKS ONCE THEY LEAVE.

UM, AND IN SOME, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE SOME OF THAT DATA WILL APPEAR IN HMES, UH, GOING FORWARD, BUT I I'M GUESSING THAT IT IS, UM, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF SCENARIOS, BUT WE WILL HAVE WE'LL ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION AND ATTENTION.

ARE THEY, I'M SORRY, I WASN'T QUITE SURE.

I UNDERSTOOD.

DO THEY GET ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER WHEN THEY GO INTO PROLOG WHO IS THEN RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR FOLLOWING THEM? SO I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE SERVICES THAT ARE ONSITE APPRO LODGES CURRENTLY, UH, THE ONSITE SERVICES CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATE, UH, FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS AFTER THEY LEAVE FROM LONG-TERM CASE MANAGEMENT, UM, THAT IS PARTIALLY RESOURCE AND CAPACITY ISSUE.

BUT ALSO OUR GOAL OF COURSE, IS TO GET THEM INTO LONG-TERM HOUSING, WHERE THEY THEN HAVE A MORE PERMANENT CASE MANAGER, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ASK, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE.

WE MIGHT HAVE INDIVIDUALS IN PRO LODGES WHO ARE PART OF DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, COMMUNITY COURTS, INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, SO THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ENROLLED AND THEY WOULD HAVE A LONGER-TERM CASE MANAGER ALREADY.

BUT MY GUESS IS THAT WE HAVE OTHER FOLKS WHO ARE NOT MORE CONSISTENTLY ATTACHED TO A CASE MANAGER.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE MAY OR MAY NOT BE CAPACITY IN EXISTING PROGRAMS TO DO THAT DURING THEIR EPISODE OF HOMELESSNESS.

NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT POINT IN A PERSON'S CONTINUOUS, CONTINUOUS CON CONTINUUM OF HOMELESSNESS.

LAST QUESTION THEN AT SOME POINT, AND I DON'T WANT TO, UM, IF THIS EXIST ALREADY, I DON'T WANT TO DIVERT YOU RIGHT NOW TO DOING THAT THING, BUT IF IT EXISTS, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT NOW.

AND AT SOME POINT I'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

I DON'T HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OF WHAT OF THE SYSTEM, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN SOMEONE GETS ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER AND HOW LONG THAT CASE MANAGER FOLLOWS THEM, I, I, I JUST HAVE THIS SENSE THAT IT JUST FEELS CHAOTIC.

AND I, I KNOW IT PROBABLY ISN'T IT JUST MAYBE THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, BUT IT FEELS CHAOTIC IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S

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THEY ACTUALLY GET A CASE MANAGER WHO THEN FOLLOWS THEM WHEREVER THEY NEED.

IT FEELS LIKE IF THEY GO INTO X PROGRAM, THEY MAY GET A CASE MANAGER.

IF THEY GO INTO Y PROGRAM, THEY MAY GET A CASE MANAGER, A DIFFERENT CASE MANAGER.

IF THEY GO INTO X PROGRAM, MAYBE THERE'S A CASE MANAGER.

MAYBE THERE'S NOT, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SORT OF A SYSTEM FLOW THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND THAT IT WOULD SEEM THAT IDEALLY FROM THE, BE THE MOMENT THAT SOMEONE BECOMES HOMELESS, THEY'RE ASSIGNED A, SOME LEVEL OF CASE MANAGEMENT CASE MANAGER WHO THEN FOLLOWS THEM ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF COMPLEXITIES TO THAT, AND I KNOW I'M SPEAKING FROM AN IDEAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT JUST, UM, I I'M UNCLEAR ON HOW THAT WORKS.

AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME ROOM FOR SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES, ASSUMING WE GET THE, I'M ASSUMING WE, YOU KNOW, MEET THE NEEDS FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE WORKFORCE NEEDS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

IT JUST FEELS DISJOINTED AND FRAGMENTED.

LET ME JUST MAKE A GENERAL COMMENT AND ACCOUNTS MEMBER.

I THINK THAT, UH, THERE ARE, THERE IS SORT OF A BRIGHT LINE IN TERMS OF WHERE AND WHEN OUR SYSTEM BECOMES A MUCH MORE RATIONALIZED AND ORGANIZED, AND THAT IS TYPICALLY WHEN SOMEONE IS REFERRED INTO A PROGRAM THAT DOES HAVE A HOUSING RESOURCE.

SO I AM LESS ACQUAINTED WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND DIVERSITY OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE PERIOD PREVIOUS TO THEIR REFERRAL INTO, UM, INTO HOUSING PROGRAM.

WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME RESOURCES THAT TO THE GROUP, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE ARCH, THERE ARE SOCIAL SERVICE, UH, FOLKS, OKAY.

TO WHAT DEGREE THEY FOLLOW SOMEONE SAY FOR, YOU KNOW, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY THEN LEAVE THE SHELTER, I AM UNCLEAR.

UM, OBVIOUSLY CAPACITY IS AN ISSUE THERE.

WE VIA THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM, OUR REFERRAL PROCESS OVER THE LAST DECADE HAS BECOME SUBSTANTIALLY, UH, MORE ORGANIZED.

UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HAS SOME FAULTS, BUT IT USED TO BE TRULY, YOU KNOW, KNOCK ON ALL THE DOORS YOU CAN KNOCK ON AND MAYBE YOU'LL GET SERVICES.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT, UM, REGULARLY REFERS PEOPLE INTO HOUSING PROGRAMS, WHERE THERE IS A HOUSING RESOURCE RATHER THAN ASSIGNING A CASE MANAGER AND MAYBE WE'LL FIND HOUSING OR NOT.

BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE INTERIM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HOW THE VARIOUS OUTREACH ORGANIZATIONS OR SHELTER, UM, ORGANIZATIONS FOLLOW FOLKS WHEN, UM, THEY HAVE YET TO BE ASSIGNED TO HOUSING RESOURCE, DO IT ONCE THEY'RE AT AN ENTRY, DO THEY GET A, A NAVIGATOR OR A CASE MANAGER OF SOME SORT WHO THEN HELPS CONNECT THEM TO A PROGRAM WITH HOUSING, BUT, UH, NO, NO.

MA'AM, THEY ARE SO COORDINATED ENTRY ALLOWS AN ASSESSMENT TO BE COMPLETE THAT DOES, AS YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHED PRIORITY, GIVEN THE LIMITED CASE MANAGEMENT AND HOUSING RESOURCES, PEOPLE ARE THEN PRIORITIZED FOR THOSE SERVICES, BUT ALMOST ALWAYS THE, UH, THE CASE OF ANGELA IS ATTACHED TO THE HOUSING.

UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IF WE'RE, UH, IF WE ARE ASSIGNING A CASE MANAGER, IDEALLY THEN, UM, THE CASE MANAGER HAS THE WHEREWITHAL TO HELP THAT PERSON GET HOUSED.

UM, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ELEMENTS TO THE SYSTEM SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, DIVERSION, WHICH WE'VE NOT DONE A LOT OF, BUT IT IS SORT OF A LIGHTER TOUCH.

IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN THE RELATIVELY SHORT TERM TO HELP YOU GET REHOUSED, HELPING FOLKS WITH SELF RESOLUTION? AND SO, UM, AGAIN, I WILL, UH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT AND TRY TO GET AN ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF THE, THE SYSTEM FLOW AS YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED.

SO, UM, SO KATHY I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

I WON'T ASK THEM ALL NOW, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE A FLOW AND BECAUSE OF WHAT COORDINATED ENTRY IS SUPPOSED TO HELP US WITH, PERHAPS THAT'S FLOW, I NEED TO SEE HOW DOES SOMEONE GET ON IT? WHAT THEN HAPPENS ONCE THEY'RE ON IT? WHEN ARE THEY ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER? UM, I, I, I JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY WE'RE HANDLING OR NOT HANDLING, UM, CONNECTING SOMEONE WITH THE PERSON WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING THEM GET CONNECTED TO SERVICES.

AND SO, YEAH, IF WE COULD DO A SYSTEM FLOW RELATED TO THAT AT SOME POINT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

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THAT WAS GOOD.

AND WE CAN SPEND A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME.

I THINK THE TWO, MY GUESS IS THE THREE TOPICS THAT'LL REALLY, THAT WE'LL WANT TO SPEND TIME HERE TODAY TALKING ABOUT OUR PRO LODGES HEEL AND PERHAPS SOME ABOUT, UM, DESIGNATED CAMPING AREAS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S, WE CAN CERTAINLY COVER ANY OF THE AREAS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT, UM, BUT THOSE ARE WHERE I SEE US SPENDING.

MOST OF OUR TIME MY SISTER WENT TO IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY, OH, I FROZEN.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT OR NOT ON THIS TOPIC, BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU LAID OUT IN TERMS OF THE TOPICS THAT WE'LL COVER TODAY.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD LIST.

SO, UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE UPDATE IS REALLY HELPFUL IN TERMS OF GETTING SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRO LODGES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW EVERY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.

UM, THESE ARE REALLY A PUBLIC HEALTH INTERVENTION RATHER THAN BEING EMERGENCY SHELTER, BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY ARE, THAT THEY ARE ALSO CONNECTING INDIVIDUALS WITH MAT WITH HOUSING, WHICH IS TERRIFIC.

I WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED JUST NOW DIANA CORRECTLY.

SO YOU INDICATED THAT 90 PER, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT 90% OF THOSE IN THE PRO LODGES ARE CONNECTED TO HOUSING PROGRAMS. IS THAT, DID I HEAR THAT ACCURATELY? THAT'S RIGHT.

88%.

ALMOST NINE.

SO WHAT DOES, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND THE SPECTRUM OF, OF WHAT THAT MEANS? AND I, I, THIS FOLLOWS UP ON COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN'S QUESTION.

SO I APOLOGIZE IF YOU'RE COVERING THE SAME GROUND.

I JUST NEED TO ASK THE QUESTION A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAT THEY'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH COORDINATED ASSESSMENT.

DOES IT MEAN THAT THEY'RE ALL IN A QUEUE SOMEWHERE? YES.

A GREAT FEEL FOR SORT OF THE GRANULARITY OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE WITH THE STATE.

SO, UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO ALL OF THEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN THROUGH COORDINATED ASSESSMENT FOR SIMILAR HAVE DONE SO PRIOR TO ARRIVAL, BUT THEY WILL EITHER DO IT OR HAVE THEIR ASSESSMENT UPDATED AND THEN BE CLAUSE.

WE HAVE PRIORITIZED, UH, SOME OF THE FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVE THROUGH THE CARES ACT FOR RAPID RE-HOUSING FOR PEOPLE IN PRO LODGES, WE'VE TYPICALLY BEEN ABLE TO ENROLL THOSE INDIVIDUALS, UH, INTO THAT PROGRAM, MEANING THAT MUCH LIKE HE'LL, YOU ARE ASSIGNED A CASE MANAGER OR A NAVIGATOR, BUT WITH THE RESOURCE OF SUBSIDY AND CASE MANAGEMENT.

SO YOU'RE NOT JUST REFERRED TO A CASE MANAGER.

UM, BUT, BUT HAVE THE HOUSING RESOURCE DEDICATED.

WE, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE AT SORT OF A 90%, RATHER THAN A HUNDRED, UM, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MAY RECALL, THERE WERE TWO TRONCHES OF EMERGENCY SOLUTION GRANT MONIES FOR RAPID REHOUSING.

WE GOT TO A POINT WHERE WE HAD FULLY ENROLLED CHARGE ONE, AND SO KIND OF ENROLLING IN NEW PROGRAMS SLOWED DOWN.

BUT THE SECOND TRAUNCH IS NOW, UH, THAT THE, THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN EXECUTED.

AND SO PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO TAKE PEOPLE ONTO THEIR CASE LOADS AGAIN.

UH, AND, AND MY GUESS IS ALSO, UM, AND I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THIS MORE CLOSELY THAT OCCASIONALLY THERE WILL BE, UH, SOMEONE WHO EITHER HAS SOME RESOURCE DECIDES TO REUNIFY WITH FAMILY, RIGHT? THAT THERE'S ANOTHER OUTCOME, POSITIVE OUTCOME THAT DOESN'T NECESSITATE ENROLLMENT IN THAT LONGER TERM PROGRAM, OR THEY'RE A VETERAN AND A BASH VOUCHER BECOMES AVAILABLE, ET CETERA.

BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE ARE REALLY UTILIZING THOSE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE PRIORITIZED, UM, OVERALL THROUGH CARES ACT EMERGENCY SOLUTION GRANTS FROM.

SO DIANA, IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE IS PRIORITIZED FOR A VASH VOUCHER OR REUNIFIED WITH THEIR FAMILY, THEY WOULD NOT APPEAR IN THIS 90% CONNECTED TO A HOUSING PROGRAM.

UH, THAT'S CORRECT, BUT THIS IS REMAINING CLIENTS WHO ARE CONNECTED TO A HOUSING PROGRAM.

SO IF THAT HAD HAPPENED, UM, I SUPPOSE IT, WITH VASH, YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE WHO WAS STILL, UM, WHO IS STILL IN THE SEARCH THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE 88%.

IF SOMEONE HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO REUNIFY WITH FAMILY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, MY SENSE IS THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE CAPTURED AND ALSO IT TENDS TO HAPPEN FAIRLY QUICKLY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE INTERVENTION IS NOT, UH, INVOLVING, UH, A HOUSING SEARCH, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEXT AT JUNE, WE CAN HAVE GREG MCCORMICK JOIN ME.

UH, HERE, GREG IS, UH, AS I SAID, OUR INCIDENT COMMANDER FOR PHIL LODGES.

AND YOU MAY RECALL THAT HE WAS PREVIOUSLY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REFERENCE STEPS, SO LOTS OF EXPERIENCE AND, UH, HAS, UH,

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YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

AND I, AND I WANT TO SAY AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL DETAIL THAT YOU'VE PROVIDED HERE.

I THINK IT'S, UM, YEAH, IT JUST SHOWS, I MEAN, THERE'S, NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S A VERY IT'S COMPLEX AND THERE'S SOME OVERLAP IN THE DATA.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW, MY HOPE IN HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AT EVERY MEETING IS THAT WE REALLY, WE REALLY DEVELOP A VERY CLEAR SENSE AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE SUBSTANTIAL WORK THAT THE STAFF ARE DOING DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO HOUSE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT WE CAN THEN COMMUNICATE THAT OUT TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I, I BELIEVE, WELL, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF LACK.

THERE'S JUST NOT CLARITY IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE WORK THAT GOES ON EACH AND EVERY DAY.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, HOPEFULLY THESE MEETINGS WILL BE HELPFUL NOT JUST IN INFORMING US SO WE CAN GO OUT AND COMMUNICATE ABOUT IT, BUT THAT THEY ALSO BECOME A RESOURCE FOR THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE INTERESTED IN, IN KNOWING THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL TO KIND OF PLUG IN.

AND SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK YOU AGAIN, ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE HOUSING PROGRAM.

SO I, I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, AND AGAIN, TO CLARIFY IT FOR OUR AUDIENCE BEING ENROLLED IN A HOUSING PROGRAM DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU ARE IN HOUSING YET YOU ARE CONNECTED TO A CASE MANAGER.

AND AS YOU SAID, IN MANY CASES, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE SOME, SOME SUPPORT ONCE THAT HOUSING IS IDENTIFIED FOR YOU, THERE'LL BE SUPPORT IN HELPING PAY THOSE BILLS MONTH AFTER MONTH.

THAT IS ACCURATE.

AND SO JUST, YOU KNOW, THE, AND YES, WE'RE SPEAKING HERE TO CURRENT GAS CONNECTED TO A HOUSING PROGRAM RATHER THAN THOSE MANY WHO HAVE EXITED THAT ARE IN A HOUSING PROGRAM.

AND WHAT THIS MEANS, UH, IN PRACTICE IS THAT THE, WE KNOW THEY'VE GOT THAT SUBSIDY AND ONGOING CASE MANAGEMENT, BUT A UNIT MAY NOT HAVE YET BEEN LOCATED AND, OR THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING ALL THEIR PAPERWORK IN ORDER.

WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, UM, FOLKS, UH, OFTEN LOSE THEIR DOCUMENTATION, THEIR IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS.

AND SO SOME OF THAT WILL BE NECESSARY, UH, BEFORE THEY'RE ABLE TO BE PLACED.

BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ANTICIPATE PLACEMENT FOR THESE, THESE FOLKS AND THEY EXIT TO HOUSING.

IT'S HUGE.

I MEAN, 201 INDIVIDUALS HAVE EXITED OUR PRO LODGES INTO HOUSING.

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME SENSE OF WHERE THAT HOUSING IS? WHERE DID THEY, WHERE DID THEY GO? YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA, BUT THESE, YOU KNOW, THE ESG PROGRAMS ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LARGE, IT'S LARGE.

SO IT WILL BE ALMOST ENTIRELY SCATTERED SITE, UH, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

SO AVAILABLE MARKET RATE UNITS.

UM, UH, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH ECHO TO IDENTIFY THAT WE DO HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, WE CREATE HOUSING THAT, UM, SOME OF IT IS EXPLICITLY PSH, BUT OTHER UNITS ARE AVAILABLE FOR REFERRAL THROUGH COORDINATED ENTRY PROGRAMS. AND SO CONCEIVABLY, WE WOULD HAVE HAD SOME OPENINGS, UH, IN THOSE PROJECTS FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.

BUT I WOULD S MY SIR, I SURMISE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE WILL BE, UM, YOU KNOW, MARKET RATE UNITS OR PRIVATELY IN LAWRENCE WITH WHOM EITHER THE, OR ECHO HAS, UH, AN ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP.

WHO, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE FROM INTEGRAL CARE, UM, CUSTOMARILY, YOU KNOW, IF A CLIENT IS WANTING TO SEEK EMPLOYMENT ARE EXPECTED TO SUPPORT THAT WORK.

I MEAN, AND THAT REALLY IS A HUGE NUMBER.

I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY MAKE SURE THAT, THAT OUR COMMUNITY WHO IS ASKING US, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING, UM, IS AWARE THAT IS AWARE OF THAT NUMBER.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, IN OUR LAST MONTH'S PRESENTATION AND I I'LL, UM, SUGGEST I'LL ASK THIS QUESTION AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN TURN TO HEAL AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF COME BACK AND FORTH, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HIT THAT BEFORE YOU NEED TO LEAVE COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

THE, IN OUR LAST PRESENTATION, IT HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT ONSITE AT THE PER LODGES.

AND THOSE INCLUDE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES, PEER SPECIALIST SERVICES, CONNECTIONS TO OTHER SERVICES FOR HEALTH, WELLNESS, BASIC NEEDS.

UM, CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHO ARE, WHO ARE SOME OF THE PROVIDERS WHO ARE ONSITE PROVIDING THOSE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES AND SOME OF THE PEER SPECIALIST SERVICES WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD LIST OUT SOME OF THE OTHER, SOME OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT ARE HERE AT OUR PRO LODGES, AND IS THERE A, ARE THERE ANY, UM, WORKFORCE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ACTIVE AT THE PRO LODGES WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AS YOU'VE POINTED OUT, WE'RE DEALING WITH A VERY MEDICALLY FRAGILE POPULATION IN OUR PRO LODGES.

AND SO SOME OF THEM MAY NOT BE, MAY NOT BE HEALTHY ENOUGH TO WORK, BUT I AM NOT CURRENTLY AWARE OF ANY WORKFORCE PROGRAMS, DIRECT WORKFORCE PROGRAMS, ALTHOUGH OF COURSE, CASE MANAGERS WHO, YOU KNOW, EVEN

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WHEN THE PRO LODGES WERE ESTABLISHED, OF COURSE, WE NEEDED TO DO THIS FAIRLY QUICKLY, UH, WITH LIMITED CAPACITY.

SO THERE IS QUITE A PATCHWORK OF PROVIDERS.

AND, UH, THE THREE THAT COME TO MIND FOR ME IMMEDIATELY ARE, UH, INTERVAL CARE, FRONT STEPS WAS ALREADY ON SITE AT SOUTH BRIDGE PRIOR TO, UH, CONVERTING IT TO, UH, A BRIDGE SHELTER.

THEY WERE AT THAT PER WATCH AND ACTUALLY COMMUNITY CARE, UH, TRAVELS VISITS PROLOGIS FOR PRIMARY CARE, UH, VISITS, UM, UH, WEEKLY, I BELIEVE THAT ALSO DON'T TELL AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT HAS BEEN SPENDING TIME THERE, PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE ALREADY, UM, ON THEIR INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT, UH, CASELOAD.

UH, AND I SUSPECT THAT THERE WERE MORE THAN I AM NOT AWARE OF, OR THAT I HAVE FORGOTTEN.

AND SO WE WILL, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY TO GET THAT DETAILED FOR YOU.

WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL IN IT.

AND I KNOW, UM, WE'LL HAVE THIS ON AGAIN NEXT TIME.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN COVER SOME OF THOSE NURSES WHO ARE, WHO ARE, ARE PARTICIPATING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? I KNOW WE ALL HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ACTUALLY ABOUT THE PROLOGIS, BUT YEAH, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, UH, JUST TO FLAG, UH, TWO OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL AT A FUTURE MEETING.

UM, IF, IF Y'ALL ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING IN THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL, IF NOT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO IT OFFLINE, BUT, UM, THE YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT, UM, SYSTEM, WHICH I, IF I, I NOTICED THE LEFT TO BE, IT SHOULD NOT BE CLEAR ON THAT.

I KNOW THAT'S A DATABASE SYSTEM THAT, THAT HELPS TO, UM, CAPTURE INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, INDIVIDUALS.

UM, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE HYMN SYSTEM.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THINGS LIKE WHO CONTRIBUTES TO IT AND WHAT DATA IS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF WITH THE, UM, THE PROLOGIS IS IF SOMEONE EXITS TO HEALTHCARE TO A HEALTH CARE FACILITY AND THEN EXITS THE HEALTHCARE FACILITY, IS THE HEALTHCARE FACILITY REQUIRED TO ENTER DATA INTO HYMNS OR NOT.

SO I JUST LIKE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHO CONTRIBUTES TO HIMS, WHO HAS ACCESS TO THAT DATA.

SO DIANA AT SOME POINT, UM, AND, UH, I GUESS WE COULD DO THAT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO A DEMO OR HAVE THAT AS PART OF THIS COMMITTEE, OR WE COULD JUST DO IT OFFLINE IF THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE, BUT THAT'S ONE THING I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE COORDINATED ENTRY LIST ITSELF.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE DATA ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON IT, HOW LONG DID THEY STAY ON IT? IS THERE A WAITING LIST, YOU KNOW, JUST EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS, UH, WITH, WITH WHAT, WHAT DATA THAT COORDINATED ENTRY LISTS CAN TELL US, UM, AS WELL AS WHAT DATA THE HYMNS HYMNS PROGRAM CAN TELL US, IS THAT QUESTION MAKES SENSE TO THEM.

IT DOES.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND OF COURSE, BOTH OF THOSE SYSTEMS ARE MANAGED BY ECHO, AND I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THEY WOULD BE THRILLED, UH, AND, UM, AND GIVE A PRESENTATION ON WHAT THEY DO.

AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT ONE OF THE PRIORITIES WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AND FUNDED IN OUR CONTRACT WITH ECHO WAS, UM, LOOKING AT EACH OF MY S WHICH IS THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM, WHICH IS REQUIRED OF ALL HUD FUNDED, UM, AGENCIES SERVING THE HOMELESS, UM, REALLY LOOKING AT THE DATA THAT IS COMING OUT OF THAT AND HOW WE CAN, UM, EXPAND OR IMPROVE THE NUANCE OF THE DATA SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR SYSTEM AND ARE ABLE TO USE THAT BOTH IN THE COMMUNICATIONS AND IN THAT MANAGEMENT CAPACITY OF IDENTIFYING SORT OF EARLY SIGNALS OF AREAS THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION TO.

SO I'M HAPPY TO COORDINATE THAT.

AND I'M SORRY, I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID.

WE, WE FUND, UH, ECHO FOR MANAGING HYMNS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID OR SOMETHING ELSE? SO WE HAVE, UM, THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR, AND ACTUALLY THE SECOND, UM, THE SECOND CONTRACT I BELIEVE WAS, WAS APPROVED ON THURSDAY.

SO WE GENERALLY SUPPORT ECHO AS THE LEADER TO DO THAT CARE.

THAT IS SORT OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL OUR LEGACY CONTRACT, BUT THEN THIS YEAR, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT, UH, AMONG, UH, OTHER PLACES CAME FORWARD THROUGH THE INVESTING FOR RESULTS REPORT.

WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CONTRACT WHICH TOUCHES ON SEVERAL OF THOSE AREAS, INCLUDING DATA QUALITY AND EVER, AND NOT JUST DATA QUALITY, BUT, YOU KNOW, REPORTING AND METRICS.

WE ARE FUNDING THEM IN PART TO DO SOME WORK WITH A CONSULTANT AROUND ASSESSING WHERE WE ARE WITH HMI S AND HELPING US, UH, AT THEM GET TO A PLACE OF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE DATA TO THE COMMUNITY THAT REALLY HELPS FOLKS, INCLUDING US UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SYSTEM.

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WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'D BE GREAT THEN CHAIR FOR A REPORT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, NOT JUST WHEN YOU'RE DONE, BUT JUST AT SOME POINT ALONG THE WAY TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THAT, OF THAT WORK THAT'S BEING DONE.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UM, OKAY.

ANY LAST QUESTIONS ON PROLOGIS? ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S TURN TO HEAL.

UM, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION IN HERE.

DIANA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST GIVE US A BIT OF AN OVERVIEW ABOUT THE UPDATED INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE MEMO AND KIND OF SET US YES, ABSOLUTELY.

FOR THAT CONVERSATION.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE THINGS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF GIVING A, UH, A COHESIVE UPDATE, UH, WE HAVE NOW, UM, APPROVED OR COUNCIL HAS APPROVED FOR CONTRACTS, UH, RELATED TO HEEL TO OUR, WITH, UH, FRONT STEPS TO OPERATE THE SOUTHBRIDGE SHELTER.

AND THE REASON THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE CONTRACTS IS THAT ONE OF THEM IS GENERAL FUND, UH, RESOURCED.

AND THE SECOND IS FEDERAL DOLLARS OR CO IS FUNDED THROUGH FEDERAL DOLLARS.

AND OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANT TO MIX THOSE TWO SOURCES.

UH, THE SECOND AND THIRD ARE CONTRACTS WITH INTEGRAL CARE AND FAMILY ELDERCARE TO PROVIDE RAPID REHOUSING SERVICES.

SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD, UM, WE WOULD BE ENROLLING THOSE FOLKS IN THAT, UH, IN THAT PERMANENT HOUSING RESOURCE WITH ONGOING CASE MANAGEMENT.

AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO UM, ADDED SOME STAFF CAPACITY TO THE HOST TEAM, UH, IN THE FORM OF A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL INTERVAL CARE STAFF MEMBERS, UH, TO HELP US AND THIS, I THINK, UM, WILL NOT BE SOLELY RELATED HEAL, BUT, UM, WE CERTAINLY ANTICIPATE UTILIZING THAT CAPACITY VIA THE HEAL INITIATIVE.

SO WE, UM, HAVE, AS I THINK I HAVE BRIEF PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE CONVENED THE, UM, OVERALL COLLABORATIVE WORKING GROUPS ARE ONGOING.

UH, AND THOSE ARE REALLY SORT OF ORGANIZED AROUND THE OUTREACH EFFORTS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD DEVELOP A BY-NAME CENSUS, UH, ET CETERA, RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AROUND SHELTER PROVISION AROUND PERMANENT HOUSING.

AND THEN, UM, AROUND THE PUBLIC SPACE MANAGEMENT PIECE OF THIS, WHICH SEEKS TO, UH, BOTH PLAN FOR THE IMMEDIATE, UH, DECOMMISSIONING OF THE SITE AS A CAMPSITE AND THEN THAT LONGER TERM POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS, ET CETERA.

AND SO, UH, THAT IS ONGOING.

WE, UM, AGAIN, WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS ARE EXECUTED, BUT ARE, UM, CONFIDENT THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN IN SHORT ORDER.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AND WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT OUR ONSITE WORK, OUR MORE INTENSIVE ONSITE WORK WOULD, UM, WOULD BEGIN, UH, LIKELY IN THAT FIRST WEEK OF JUNE.

UH, AND BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS GOING ON FOR SOME TIME AT THIS ENCAMPMENT, AND THERE'S BEEN QUITE A BIT OF OUTREACH JUST OVER TIME.

UM, INDEPENDENT OF THE HEAL INITIATIVE, THERE ARE POSITIVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUTREACH WORKERS, AND WE THINK THAT, OR WE WILL CERTAINLY SEE AND HOPE TO, UH, MOVE A LITTLE MORE QUICKLY WITH THIS ENCAMPMENT BECAUSE IT WON'T TAKE QUITE SO LONG TO BUILD THE RELATIONSHIPS RIGHT, TO, TO HAVE PEOPLE BE COMFORTABLE AND READY TO MOVE.

SO WE WILL SEE HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

OBVIOUSLY WE'LL NEED TO BE INFORMED BY WHAT WE FIND ON THE GROUND, UH, AS WE DIG IN AT THE SITE, BUT, UM, HOPE THAT, THAT THIS SITE COULD BE RESOLVED IN RELATIVELY SHORT ORDER.

SOMETHING ELSE THAT, UM, THAT WE ARE DOING THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN HAS BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY IS THIS IS A ROLLING PROCESS.

THE WORK ON A PARTICULAR SITE IS QUITE INTENSIVE, BUT WE WILL BE NOW AS WE HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF THE TIMELINE FOR SITE ONE, DOING THE INITIAL COMMUNITY OUTREACH FOR THE SECOND SITE, AND THAT WILL INVOLVE WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND ANY SMALL GROUP, UM, OF FOLKS THAT THEY IDENTIFY ON THE EARLY SIDE TO BE BROADENED TO, YOU KNOW, THE WHATEVER COMMUNITY OR EXCUSE ME, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

THERE ARE IN THE RELEVANT AREA FOR INPUT

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ABOUT WHAT THE SITE RESOLUTION MIGHT LOOK LIKE OR SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME ANTICIPATION OF, UM, ACTIVATING A PARTICULAR SITE.

UM, ACKNOWLEDGING ALSO THAT AS SPOKEN ABOUT, WE WANT TO BE, UH, CAREFUL ABOUT RAISING EXPECTATIONS.

WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE THIS IS COMING VERY SOON, RIGHT.

AND NOT MADE TOO FAR IN ADVANCE AND ALSO CONTROL TO SOME DEGREE THE POTENTIAL FOR IN MIGRATION INTO A SITE THAT SORT OF WORD, GETTING OUT AND PEOPLE MOVING, UM, YOU KNOW, INTO A SITE BECAUSE THEY'VE HEARD ABOUT THE HOUSING RESOURCES, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

DO I SEE A QUESTION? OH, NO, I THINK YOU, I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT.

UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALSO JUST URGE YOU TO URGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT TRYING TO BE MORE, NOT JUST SEQUENTIAL, YOU KNOW, AS YOU MOVE PAST, AS YOU START MOVING INTO SECOND SITE AND THIRD SITE OR SITE THAT, UH, THAT, UM, INSTEAD OF DOING THEM ALL SEQUENTIALLY, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO START JUST THE FIRST ONE FIRST, BUT AS YOU GET INTO THE SECOND ONE, AND THEN HOPEFULLY YOU CAN START THE THIRD AND FOURTH SHORTLY THEREAFTER, SO THAT WE HAVE SOME OVERLAP GOING ON INSTEAD OF JUST SEQUENTIAL.

I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THAT.

SO I AGREE, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY OUR GOAL AND IT WILL, OF COURSE BEING INFORMED BY WHAT WE LEARN, UH, ADDITIONAL LEARNINGS, THIS, UM, THIS GO ROUND.

BUT CERTAINLY I THINK, UM, INITIAL AND INITIAL OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, AS, AS SOME OF OUR OUTREACH PARTNERS HAVE SAID THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO WEAR OUT THEIR WELCOME AND SIT ONSITE ALL DAY.

SO IT IS NOT A FULL-TIME JOB TO BE, UM, DOING OUTREACH ON A PARTICULAR SITE.

AND SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN, UM, THAT WE CAN DO THAT SORT OF STAGGERING, UM, UH, IN ORDER TO COMPRESS OUR OVERALL TIMELINE.

THE PRECISE TIMING, RIGHT.

IS I THINK STILL TO BE DETERMINED HOW QUICKLY WE MIGHT START ONE SITE AFTER STARTING ANOTHER.

COUNCIL MEMBER VICE-CHAIR FONTEZ.

UM, THANK YOU, DIANA.

MY QUESTION IS JUST, AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE LEARNINGS THAT YOU'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW WITH THE HEAL INITIATIVE OR THE FIRST SITE RESOLUTION.

I THINK IT'S JUST SO IMPORTANT FOR US TO, TO HEAR THAT FEEDBACK SHARED OUT.

AND, AND I'M, I'M VERY CURIOUS TO LEARN TO DIG IN AND TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.

SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THE OUTREACH TEAM IS HAVING, UM, SOME LEVEL OF SUCCESS IN HAVING, UM, HAVING BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH THOSE RELATIONSHIPS VERY QUICKLY.

AND SO I JUST KINDA, IF YOU COULD, UM, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILS AS TO WHY YOU THINK IT WAS POSSIBLE, OR IF THERE WERE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES AT A PARTICULAR SITE THAT LED TO THAT VERY FAST INTEGRATION OR, OR FAST CONNECTION.

UM, I'D BE CURIOUS JUST TO, TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT EXPERIENCE.

KNOW, THAT WILL, WILL, UH, HELP US NOW, THERE HAS BEEN SOME CHANGE IN POPULATION AT THAT SITE, UM, RECENTLY, UH, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE BELIEVE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, BUT THERE WERE SOME FOLKS DID LEAVE.

I THINK THE FACT THAT THIS SITE, WHILE NOT WITHIN THE FORMAL BOUNDS OF DOWNTOWN IS SO CLOSE IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT THAT, UM, IT IS A SITE THAT HOST AS IN, YOU KNOW, BEEN ENGAGING WITH OVER TIME.

I WILL ALSO SAY WITH KUDOS TO MY STAFF, THAT OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALISTS, CHARLES LOOSEN, YOU KNOW, DOES ENGAGEMENT, UM, NOT ONLY WITH, UH, WITH NEIGHBORS, UH, UH, OR I SHOULD SAY NEIGHBORS BOTH HOUSED AND UNHOUSED.

AND SO, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE HAS BEEN A FAIR AMOUNT OF, OF, UM, TENSION, I WILL SAY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ENCAMPMENT, BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE TO A DENSE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND A FAIRLY HEAVILY TRAFFICKED THOROUGHFARE.

WE'VE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH NEIGHBORS FOR SOME TIME, UH, ON THIS SITE.

AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SPECIALIST HAS REALLY MADE IT A POINT TO HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THAT CAMPSITE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AS PART OF HIS JOB.

AND SO, UH, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM, UH, AND I SHOULD SAY, EXCUSE ME, DAC IS ALSO AT THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? DOWNTOWN AUSTIN, COMMUNITY COURT, UM, UH, TRIAGE CASE MANAGEMENT IS LOCATED AT TWO PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE SORT OF THREE AREAS IN WHICH, UM, THERE ARE, HAVE BEEN SOME EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS.

THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY, I THINK, A POP-UP RESOURCE CLINIC THAT COMMUNITY CARE DID, UH, ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE.

AND SO, UM, AND SO I THINK FOR THOSE REASONS, UH, WE HAVE A LITTLE BETTER SENSE OF, UH, THE READINESS OF FOLKS TO MOVE.

UM, AND I THINK PROBABLY THERE IS SOME PREEXISTING TRUST, UM, PARTICULARLY WITH HOST, UH, YOU

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AND SO WE NOW HAVE SOME NEW OCCUPANTS, UM, SO WE'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, BUT WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD THAT MOST FOLKS THEY'RE ALREADY, UM, TO, TO MOVE INTO HOUSING.

AND IF THE MAJORITY WILL ACCEPT NON CONGREGATE SHELTER AS, UM, AS AN OPTION, UM, AS YOU KNOW, CONGREGATE SHELTER IS, UM, OF LIMITED ATTRACTION FOR MANY FOLKS.

UM, OF COURSE NOW THE LANDSCAPE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT WITH THE CAMPING ORDINANCE BEING IN PLACE.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL INFORMATION.

AND JUST ALSO WANTED TO ECHO, UM, SIMILAR SENTIMENTS TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN LAID OUT IN THAT IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, THAT IS THE INTENTION TO DO CONCURRENT OUTREACH WITH THE DIFFERENT SITES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE HEAL INITIATIVE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST HEARING WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT HAVING THOSE EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS, YOU KNOW, GETTING QUICKLY AND ESTABLISHING US AS SOON AS WE CAN, THOSE CONNECTIONS IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A, IT'S A CRITICAL PIECE.

THAT WAS A GREAT OVERVIEW OF, OF THE WORK THAT IS ONGOING.

YOU HAVE MANY, MANY THINGS THAT I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING, WORKING ON YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR ALL OF THE PIECES OF IT.

UM, COLLEAGUES, WE ARE GOING TO LOSE OUR QUORUM, UM, HERE VERY SOON.

SO WE PROBABLY HAVE TIME TO TAKE UP ONE LAST TOPIC BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.

UM, IS THAT, DOES THAT SEEM LIKE THE ONE TO Y'ALL? OKAY.

SO LET'S SEE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LAST WEEK'S COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, DIANA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO START, START BY FRAMING SIMPLY SAY, UM, OF COURSE OUR NEXT UPDATE TO COUNCIL IS DUE NEXT TUESDAY.

SO WE WILL BE WORKING ON THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GUESSING THAT THE MANY, MANY QUESTIONS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING TO, UM, TO REFINE VIA THAT MEMO IN BRIEFING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UH, WE WILL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST TUESDAY AT WORK SESSION WAS BEGINNING TO GATHER THOSE SITES THAT, UM, THAT MIGHT BE NON-CITY SITES AS, UH, AS POTENTIAL.

AND SO I KNOW THAT, UH, DIRECTOR MCNEELY AT, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION HAS BEEN RECEIVING SOME OF THOSE IDEAS.

UH, WE UNDERSTAND CERTAINLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN ON SOME, UH, UH, ON THE PART OF SOME CITIZENS ABOUT LOSING ACCESS TO PARKLAND, UM, AND ARTISTS CERTAINLY LOOKING AT THE LEVEL OF UTILIZATION OF A PARTICULAR SPACE WHEN CONSIDERING WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE.

AND I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE A TON OF FANTASTIC OPTIONS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, STAFF WHOLE ENDEAVOR TO, UH, CERTAINLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE POTENTIAL CHALLENGES OR, OR, UM, ADVANTAGES OF A PARTICULAR SITE, BUT ANTICIPATE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME HARD DECISIONS AHEAD.

WE HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING WITH CAPITAL METRO, UH, GENERALLY REGARDING THE ROLLOUT OF PROP B, AND THEY HAVE OFFERED TO WORK WITH US WHEN WE COME GET TO A SHORTER LIST ABOUT UNDERSTANDING, NOT ONLY OF COURSE, UM, WHAT TRANSPORTATION RESOURCES ARE IN PLACE, UH, AT, OR NEAR THOSE SITES, BUT WHETHER THERE ARE ANY ALTERATIONS TO, UH, TO LINES OR, OR, YOU KNOW, VARIATIONS OF STOPS THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR, UH, THEIR INPUT THERE.

WE HAVE HAD FROM AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, STAFF IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AREA, UH, INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH US TO ENSURE THAT WHATEVER IS ESTABLISHED, UH, REALLY MEETS ALL OF, UM, OF THE STANDARDS AROUND SANITATION AND, UM, AND SORT OF PROTECTION OF HEALTH IN THAT WAY.

SO THERE'S LOTS TO CONSIDER.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, OBVIOUSLY ONE QUESTION THAT WE WILL NEED TO ANSWER IS, UH, HOW WE WOULD RESOURCE, UH, THIS EFFORT GOING FORWARD AND, UM, AS WELL AS, AND RELATED, WHAT SCALE WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT? SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK TO SOME DEGREE, THE SITES THAT WE IDENTIFY WILL HELP

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FORM THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN WE CAN SITE, BUT, UH, WE WILL BE WALKING THAT DELICATE LINE THAT YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH AROUND, UM, RESOURCING A CRISIS INTERVENTION THAT, UM, IS RELATIVELY COSTLY AND DOESN'T PROVIDE US PERMANENT HOUSING, BUT REALLY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE'S THIS VERY SERIOUS NEED, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE SOMEPLACE TO GO.

THAT IS, UH, THAT IS DESIGNATED BY THE CITY.

I DID WANT TO MENTION ALSO THE, UH, THE STATEWIDE CAMPING BAN BILL THAT WAS PASSED, UM, LAST WEEK.

SO THAT IS HOUSE VALIDLY IN 1925.

WAS THERE ORIGINALLY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF THE SENATE BILL.

UM, ONE OF THE PROVISIONS OF THAT BILL THAT WAS ADDED, UM, LAST WEEK, ALMOST CERTAINLY IN RESPONSE TO OUR LIST OF POTENTIAL SITES WAS THAT CITIES MAY NOT DESIGNATE PARKLANDS AS, UH, ESSENTIAL IN CABIN SITES.

SO WE WILL HAVE THAT TO CONTEND WITH AS WELL AS NEEDING TO GET APPROVAL FROM THE STATE FOR ANY DESIGNATED ENCAMPMENT AS OF SEPTEMBER 1ST.

SO WE DO HAVE A WINDOW, UM, THERE, IN WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING IS, UM, THAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE GRANDFATHERED ESSENTIALLY, UH, UNDER THE EXISTING, UH, THE EXISTING LAW.

AND WE'LL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET AN OPINION FROM LAW ON THAT.

UM, AND SO THAT I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TERM, BUT THE LANGUAGE OF THE BILL INDICATES THAT, UH, IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT, UM, SEPTEMBER 1ST AND THAT EXISTING ENCAMPMENTS WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING.

WE HAVE TALKED A BIT ABOUT PRO LODGES AND WE HAVE TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE HEAL INITIATIVE AND THIS IS OUR LAST, OUR LAST, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO WRAP, UM, COLLEAGUES.

WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR MS. GRAY ABOUT DESIGNATED CAMPING AREAS, COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN.

UM, I'M SORRY.

UM, I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SO THAT, SO THAT NEW LAW, ASSUMING IT PASSES ALL THE WAY WOULD NOT APPLY TO, UM, EXISTING SANCTIONED CAMPGROUNDS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEANT IF THAT'S ACCURATE? THAT'S ACCURATE.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK I RECALL THAT DURING OUR LAST BRIEFING, THERE WAS A CONCERN RAISED THAT OUR MUNICIPAL CODE PROHIBITS CAMPING IN OR ON PARKLAND.

DID WE EVER GET AN ANSWER FOR THAT? AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS TO THAT CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED.

I HAVE NOT.

UM, I HAVE NOT HAD AN UPDATE ON THAT.

AND SO LET ME CHECK, UH, AND ENSURE THAT I COMMUNICATED THAT APPROPRIATELY TO LEGAL IF IN FACT, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS HSD THAT WAS TO DO SO.

AND SO WE'LL CHECK WITH, UH, WITH LAW AND NOT FOR LIKE THE FIRST THING IT'S THE ORDINANCE D YOU KNOW, SAYS CARD IS WHO NEEDS TO DESIGNATE THE SANCTIONING CANDIDATES, ALTHOUGH IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T SAY THAT THEY NEED TO BE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YEAH, THE RESOLUTION THAT WE REALLY JUST TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC LAND OR LAND FROM PARTNERS.

UM, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING TOPIC TO TAKE UP IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

YOU KNOW, MY, MY SENSE OF THE CONVERSATION IS THAT ACTIVELY USED PARKS ARE NOT GOING TO BE VIABLE FOR THIS PURPOSE.

UM, BUT I DO THINK IT'S USEFUL TO HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

LITERALLY SOME OF OUR PARKS HAVE CAMPING, RIGHT? SO THEN IT WOULD BE, I THINK THE LEGAL QUESTION THERE WOULD BE WHO IS ALLOWED TO ACCESS CAMPGROUNDS AT OUR CITY PARKS, UM, WHICH, WHICH I THINK IS JUST A LEGAL QUESTION THAT WE SHOULD, THAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT, UH, MAYOR.

I JUST THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN THIS CONVERSATION, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT ANY OF OUR COLLEAGUES WERE ANTICIPATING USING PARK AREAS THAT WERE USED BY THE PUBLIC, BY EDDIE ROAD MATERIAL OR SUBSTANTIAL WAY.

UH, THE CONVERSATION ABOUT PARKS REALLY WENT, UH, UNDEVELOPED FARM AREAS THAT, THAT MIGHT OTHERWISE BE, UH, AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE.

UH, SO THERE WAS NEVER A DISCUSSION, UH, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN QUITE UNDERSTOOD AND THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE KNOW THAT NO ONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE WAS SUGGESTING PUTTING A SANCTIONED CAMP AREA IN A PARK AREA WHERE PEOPLE WERE UTILIZING

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PARKS, RIGHT.

INCLUDING THE STAFF YEAH.

COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

AND I WOULD JUST ECHO THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN ABOUT FLOOD RISK AND WILDFIRE RISK IS ANOTHER THING THAT'S REALLY, EVERYONE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE IMPORTANT.

SO, UM, DO YOU EXPECT TO ANOTHER LIST TO BE RELEASED NEXT WEEK? OR? I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THE RESOLUTION THAT IS DUE TO US NEXT WEEK.

UH, LET ME NOT MISSPEAK HERE.

I KNOW THAT WE ARE EXPECTED TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILED BUDGET AND TIMELINE INFORMATION.

CERTAINLY THERE IS ONGOING WORK ON THAT LIST, BUT I WILL CHECK WITH DIRECTOR MCNEELY AND THE LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION TO SEE SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS INDICATED THERE.

WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK SO.

AND I THINK I WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS THAT REALITY IS THE CITY, UM, UTILIZES MOST PROPERTY THAT IT HAS.

THE GENERAL OPERA, WHAT IS THE, COULD YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT GENERAL OPERATIONAL STAFF WOULD DO AND WOULD THAT COST BE PER ENCAMPMENT OR WOULD IT BE A SHARED COST? RIGHT.

SO, UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PORTFOLIO OF PROPERTY, THERE ARE NOT A TON OF PARCELS THAT ARE SITTING ON UTILIZED, UM, OR WITHOUT AN INTENDED PURPOSE IN THE RELATIVELY NEAR FUTURE.

THE, THERE ARE SOME, UM, EITHER UNDEVELOPED PARKS OR LARGER PARKS THAT HAVE, UH, PORTIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE, COULD BE ISOLATED IN SOME WAY.

THE OTHER PIECE THAT I THINK WAS IMPORTANT IS THAT, UM, TO THE DEGREE WE COME OUT WITH A SHORT LIST, UH, WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT DRAWING THOSE NAMES OUT OF A HAT, THAT WE ARE LOOKING THOROUGHLY AT ALL OF OUR CITY PROPERTIES.

UM, AND THAT IN FACT, UM, IT IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE SORT OF TAKE SITES OFF THE LIST, UM, BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS, UM, CHALLENGES THAT YOU MENTIONED, THAT THE LIST WE COME UP WITH IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE, UM, THE RESULT OF REALLY THERE NOT BEING OTHER LOCATIONS, UH, THAT ARE VIABLE.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A JUDGMENT CALL, BUT, UH, RATHER THAN HAVE NEIGHBORS OVER A FEW SITES FEEL LIKE, UH, THEY'VE BEEN TARGETED FOR REASONS THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, SAPPI IS LOOKING BROADLY.

AND CERTAINLY, I, I DO THINK THAT THE DESIGNATION OF PART AS THE ENTITY THAT NEEDED TO, UM, TO DO THAT, UH, SELECTION IN THE ORDINANCE, UH, TO SOME DEGREE ALSO DROVE THAT.

BUT WE, I THINK ARE HEARING BOTH, UH, FROM COUNCIL AND, AND THE PUBLIC CLEARLY THAT THERE ARE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU, CHAIR TURBO, YOU KNOW, THE INTENTION OF THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU LED IT W DID YOU ONLY INCLUDE PART, OR DID YOU ALSO HAVE OTHER DEPARTMENTS LISTED AS ENTITIES THAT WOULD HELP US IDENTIFY PARCELS? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

IT JUST SAID CITY, UH, IT JUST SAID PUBLICLY OWNED, UM, OR CITY OWNED, BUT IT SAYS, SO THERE WERE THE RESOLUTION DIDN'T CALL OUT ANY PARTICULAR DEPARTMENTS.

I THINK THE REALITY IS THAT A LOT OF OUR PUBLICLY OWNED LAND SITS IN PARKLAND.

AND SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE SUBSTANCE OF THEIR, OF THEIR VERY INITIAL FIRST REVIEW PRELIMINARY.

UM, AND I'LL JUST CONTINUE TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I THINK AS THE MAYOR SAID, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT THIS WAS A VERY PRELIMINARY LIST, BUT, UM, JUST AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, IT SAID, LET'S START BY LOOKING AT CITY OWNED LAND, AND AGAIN, IN ANY DEPARTMENT AND A DEPARTMENT'S HOLDINGS, UM, AS WELL AS TO LOOK TO OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES, THE COUNTY, THE STATE TXDOT, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANYONE WHO HOLDS LANDS THAT MAY NOT BE ACTIVELY USED RIGHT NOW THAT COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PURPOSE.

UM, AS WELL AS PRIVATE PARTNERS.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN, IN MY DISTRICT, UM, I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS OVER THE LAST WEEK ABOUT, ABOUT DIFFERENT TRACKS THAT ARE, UH, THAT ARE NOT CITY OWNED TRACKS.

UM, SO WE JUST NEED TO BE CREATIVE AND, AND TALK PRIVATE.

I APOLOGIZE TO CLARIFY.

MY REFERENCE TO PART IS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF, WHICH SAYS THAT PART, UM, IS THE ENTITY THAT COULD DESIGNATE THOSE SECTIONS, UM, OR DESIGNATED THE CAMPSITES.

UM, DIANA HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT SOMETHING IN THE MEMO AND YOU DID ADDRESS THIS IN OUR CONVERSATION ON TUESDAY, BUT I, I MISSED, I MISSED THE ANSWER.

UH, AND THAT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT, UM, GENERAL OPERATIONAL STAFFING AT A HUNDRED, WHICH WAS ESTIMATED AT $150,000.

I WASN'T SURE IF THAT $150,000 WAS IF

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UM, I BELIEVE THAT IS A PER ENCAMPMENT COST AND IT IS A, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, DIRECTOR MCNEELY PROVIDED FOR US, BUT THAT IS ESSENTIALLY NON-SERVICE STAFF.

SHOULD THINK TO WRAPPING UP HERE PRETTY SOON, UM, THERE AND MAYOR PRO TEM, BEFORE YOU ARRIVED, WE DID ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

AND, UH, AND NON-SECURITY, SO THE PEOPLE ONSITE WHO ARE RUNNING THE TRAINS, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE DEGREE THERE ARE EVENTS OR THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN, THEY ARE COORDINATING THOSE.

THEY ARE RESPONDING, UM, TO ANY MAINTENANCE NEEDS OR, OR, YOU KNOW, NEEDS THAT COME UP DAY TO DAY.

SO IT IS REALLY, TRULY, BASICALLY, UH, THE, THE VERY BASIC STAFF THAT IS, UM, MANNING THE FORT, UH, OVERALL AT THESE STATES AT THESE SITES AND THE BEST PRACTICES GENERALLY THAT, THAT SHOULDN'T BE, UM, 24 SEVEN, UH, CERTAINLY SECURITY 24 SEVEN, BUT THEN YOU HAVE OPERATIONAL STAFF ON SITE, UH, FOR, FOR LONGER THAN EIGHT HOURS A DAY.

OF COURSE.

DOES THAT MEAN I'D BE INTERESTED SORT OF, I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD HELP ME AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN THINK ABOUT FOR THE NEXT UPDATE.

IT WOULD HELP ME TO KNOW WHAT TRAINS THEY'RE RUNNING.

LIKE I JUST, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE US WITH SOME SENSE IN THAT NEXT UPDATE OF WHAT KINDS OF JOBS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY STAFF DOES 150,000 REPRESENT, IT SOUNDS LIKE AT LEAST, UM, MAYBE THREE STAFF AT EACH, I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THAT SALARY AND BENEFITS OR JUST SALARY THERE, HOW MANY, UH, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT WOULD BE AT EACH SITE.

AND REALLY, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO, I MEAN, MY VISION AND BRINGING THE RESOLUTION FORWARD WAS TO ENVISION THESE AS SAFE SLATE, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE LINES OF OUR SAFE SLEEP PROGRAM.

SO VERY, VERY BASIC SERVICES, UM, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MORE SERVICES AND MORE WRAPAROUND SERVICES, BUT WE SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET NOR DO WE WANT TO PUT THE RESOURCES HERE.

WE WANT TO USE THEM FOR HOUSING.

SO, SO THAT COST WAS JUST ONE THAT TOOK ME A LITTLE BIT BY SURPRISE.

AND I WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER IT IS A COST WE MUST INCUR, UM, WHETHER IT COULD BE SHARED HOW MANY STAFF ARE REPRESENTED BY THAT LINE AND WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE DOING.

I CERTAINLY SUPPORT AND UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR SECURITY STAFFING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE SAFE ENVIRONMENTS FOR THOSE WHO ARE, ARE THERE.

UM, BUT THE GENERAL OPERATIONAL STAFF IS ONE THAT I, THAT I WOULD WONDER ABOUT.

AND THEN TOO, AS WE TALK ABOUT COSTS, UM, THIS TOO IS SOMETHING I I'D LIKE SOME IF, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, IN THE NEXT UPDATE TO JUST TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE BARE MINIMUM COSTS THAT WE WOULD INCUR AND WHAT OF THESE, WHAT OF THESE COSTS ON THE PRELIMINARY ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS? COULD WE, WOULD WE, UM, LOOK TO CUT AND WHICH OF THESE COULD BE SHARED COSTS? I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT LAUNDRY.

I MEAN THE LAUNDRY COST PER SITE, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT ONE WAS, YEAH, WE, WE COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS FOR 300, FOR ALMOST $300 A MONTH PER PERSON THAT WOULD NOT BE ONSITE LAUNDRY.

SO, SO CLEARLY THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY, THAT SHOULD BE A MOBILE LAUNDRY SHARED AMONG DIFFERENT SITES.

SO THAT'S WHEN WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT, BUT IF YOU COULD, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHERS AND SEE WHICH OF THESE COULD BE SHARED COSTS, WHICH OF THESE, UM, ARE, WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE, BUT, BUT NOT ESSENTIAL.

MOST OF THEM ARE ESSENTIAL.

I MEAN, CLEARLY WE WANT TO HAVE RESTAURANT MUST HAVE RESTROOMS, MUST HAVE SHOWERS, MUST HAVE SOCIAL SERVICES.

SOME OF THESE COSTS WERE ALREADY INCURRING AS WE DISCUSSED, LIKE STORAGE COSTS, UM, TRASH AND MAINTENANCE.

IN FACT, WE MAY SEE, WE MAY SEE A SAVINGS WITH THAT.

UM, AND, AND AS I KNOW, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED AND I, I FORGOTTEN WHO SUGGESTED IT BECAUSE IT'S COME FROM MULTIPLE PLACES, BUT, BUT THE IDEA, UM, HAS COME FROM MULTIPLE PLACES TO EMPLOY, TO EMPLOY INDIVIDUALS, UM, IN THE DESIGNATED CAMPING AREAS FOR SOME OF THE, FOR SOME OF THE SERVICES ONSITE.

AND I, I REALLY LIKED THAT IDEA OF THAT CAN, CAN BE A MODEL WE LOOK TO AND WE ALREADY HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR, OR THOSE WORKFORCE FOR SOME OF THOSE WORKFORCE PROGRAMS. I AGREE, ALEX, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT ENDING AT 1130, THAT WAS BEFORE WE HAD TWO MORE MEMBERS ARRIVE, BUT, UM, WE, WE PROBABLY

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SO THIS IS OUR LAST, THIS IS OUR LAST CONVERSATION OF THE DAY, AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT PROLOGIS AND HEAL AND, UH, DESIGNATED CAMPING AREAS.

AND SO IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS DONE LAST WEEK, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THEM BEFORE WE ADJOURN.