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SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION ON NOVEMBER 16TH, 2021.

UH, THE TIME IS NINE 16.

WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, UH, COLLEAGUES, A WORK SESSION TODAY,

[A. Pre-Selected Agenda Items]

UH, THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD START WITH, UH, PULLED ITEMS, GET THROUGH THOSE.

UH, AND THEN, UH, SINCE IT'S NOT SET FOR US ALSO TO TALK ABOUT, UH, ON THURSDAY, THAT WE WOULD TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO, UH, UH, ADDRESS THE, KIND OF THE COUNCIL MEETING EFFICIENCY ISSUE THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER AND, AND MADE SURE WAS ON OUR AGENDA FOR TODAY.

IF WE HAVE TIME BEFORE NOON, WE'LL START THE STORM PRESENTATION.

UH, THE ANTICIPATION IS THAT, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL RUN THROUGH QUESTIONS KIND OF LIKE AT A CIRCULAR WAY SO THAT EVERYBODY GETS A CHANCE, UH, MANAGER, UH, FOR, FOR ME, I REALLY LIKE TO HEAR KIND OF PROSPECTIVELY WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE NOW DOING TO ENSURE THAT THIS, IF IT WAS A WINTER STORM TOMORROW, WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT TOMORROW.

AND I'D LIKE TO GET A BETTER FEEL FOR THAT.

AND I HAVE WATCHING THE, THE TAPE SO FAR, BUT HOW DO THE STORM STAFF, UH, FIGURING A AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS ON THAT TAKING A LUNCH BREAK BETWEEN 12 AND ONE COMING BACK AT ONE, FINISHING THE STORM, DOING THE AUSTIN, UH, ENERGY, UH, MEETING, UH, BOY, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS ON THAT AGENDA TO TRY TO GET THEM TO KIND OF BLOW THROUGH IT AS BEST THEY CAN, BUT TO BE SO INFORMATIVE AND THEN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, WE DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THE CLERK, THE OTHER TWO ITEMS I THINK ARE JUST REPORTING TO US, NOT REAL ACTION ITEMS. I THINK WE CAN MOVE THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY.

THAT GETS US BACK OUT HAVING DONE THAT FOR THE, FOR THE FINAL TWO PRESENTATIONS, WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT FIVE, UH, BECAUSE WE LOSE THE CAPACITY OR LOSE THE ROOM AND WE LOSE THE CAPACITY TO GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

SO IF THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL PROCEED THAT WAY.

UH, AND, UH, THAT MEANS THAT, UH, AND, AND ALICE SAID, UH, UH, TEXTED ME THAT SHE, UH, IS, IS OUR, THE WAY, AND THIS URGE US TO, TO, TO START IN HER, UH, ABSENCE, UH, THE PROBLEM WITH THE TWO ITEMS THAT SHE, THAT WE HAVE PULLED IS SHE'S PULLED THOSE ITEMS. UM, KATHY, DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THEM

[D1. Council discussion regarding Council meeting procedures.]

THE, THE, THE KIND OF THE MEETING EFFICIENCY DEAL? LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.

YEAH, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT JUST KIND OF, AS WE TRANSITIONED BACK FROM, FROM WHOLLY VIRTUAL INTO THE VIRTUAL SLASH IN-PERSON HYBRID, I WANTED TO JUST BE VERY, VERY INTENTIONAL AND KIND OF TALK THROUGH HOW WE'RE HANDLING SPEAKERS.

UM, BOTH THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP ONLINE, BUT THOSE WHO ARE, ARE HERE IN PERSON.

AND, AND I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PROCLAMATION.

SO THE PROCLAMATIONS HAVE NOW SWITCHED TO THURSDAY MORNINGS AT NINE 30.

AND I, I WASN'T, IT WASN'T CLEAR TO ME WHETHER THAT'S A TEMPORARY FIX OR IF THAT'S THE INTENTIONAL.

AND I WANTED, I WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AMONG OUR DIOCESE ABOUT WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT FIT.

I THINK THAT SOME OF THE APPEAL, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, EXCITEMENT AND APPEAL FOR PEOPLE WAS COMING DOWN AND BEING PART OF THE COUNCIL MEETING AND HAVING IT IN THIS SPACE.

UM, IT MAKES IT REALLY CHALLENGING IN THOSE SMALLER SPACES FOR MULTIPLE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE.

AND SO YOU'RE REALLY JUST AN AUDIENCE NOW OF THOSE WHO ARE RECEIVING THE PROCLAMATION AND THOSE WHO ARE DELIVERING IT IN A WAY THAT'S NOT, THAT'S JUST VERY DIFFERENT.

SO, I MEAN, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT MOVE BACK TO ITS REGULAR TIME AND PLACE, BUT WANTED TO, AGAIN, WANTED TO ENGAGE IN THAT CONVERSATION HERE WITH Y'ALL.

YEAH, I'M NOT.

AND, AND, AND I THINK THAT IT, THAT IT MOVED THAT WAY IN PART BECAUSE OF THE COVID RESPONSE.

AND I THINK THAT WAS INITIALLY, WE JUST WEREN'T DOING IT AT ALL, AND THAT DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT.

SO WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING I KNOW THAT THEY RECORDED AND IT PLAYS, AND THERE'S A VIDEO THAT, THAT ORGANIZATIONS MAKE, UH, MAKE USE OF, UH, I'M AMENABLE FOR IT BEING DIFFERENT TIMES, THE DOING IT IN THE EVENING AS WE'VE BEEN RUNNING OUR MEETINGS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ENDING SOMETIMES EARLIER THAN, THAN, THAN FIVE HAD BY SETTING IT ON THE AGENDA AND HAVING PEOPLE COME THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE'D BE COMING BACK JUST TO DO THE PROCLAMATION WORK, WHICH IS CERTAINLY ALLOWABLE TO, FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO COME BACK AND DO THAT.

BUT I DON'T HAVE A STRONG

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FEELING ANYWAY ON IT, BUT I THINK THAT JUST THE EVOLUTION OF IT, YES, CATS OVER KELLY.

I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS ON THURSDAY START AT 10, WOULD IT BE AMENABLE TO MAYBE START AT NINE ON COUNCIL WORK DAYS TO ALLOW FOR EXTRA SPACE TO DO THOSE PROCLAMATIONS? WE COULD, IF I WAS THE RULE OF THE COUNCIL, I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE THAT HOUR IN THE MORNING FOR A LAST MINUTE KIND OF WORK IN PREPARATION FOR THAT, A LOT OF PEOPLE SHAKING THEIR HEAD, NO, ON THE DESK, BUT HEY, YOU KNOW, ONE IN 10, ONE FOR A REASON I GET IT IS THIS IS, THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE WE'RE ALLOWED TO THROW OUT IDEAS.

YEAH.

IT'S GOT SWIMMING POOL.

I THINK THE POINT THERE ABOUT THE 10:00 AM IS THAT IT'S NOT US 11, THAT THAT 10:00 AM START TIME IS ABOUT, IT REALLY IS ABOUT THE STAFF WHO ARE SUPPORTING THE MEETING AND ORGANIZING THEMSELVES AND GETTING THE MEETING ORGANIZED IF THAT'S A QUESTION THAT RECURS REGULARLY.

SO, UM, YEAH, IT, IT, IT REALLY ISN'T ABOUT US.

IT'S ABOUT THE STAFF.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THE, UH, THE, THE PROCLAMATION? UM, I, UH, I ADMIT THAT I REALLY DID LIKE THAT NICE BREAK THAT WE HAD AT DINNER TIME AND, UH, KIND OF THE, THE PROTOCOLS AND THE CELEBRATION AND THE CEREMONY THAT WENT AROUND IT.

AND I WOULD BE PLEASED TO RETURN TO THAT, TO THAT APPROACH.

I ALSO WONDER IF THERE MIGHT BE SOME BENEFIT TO DOING THEM IN CHAMBERS, WHETHER WE DECIDE MORNING OR AFTERNOON, BUT I ALSO MISS THE MUSIC.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF MUSICIANS WHO WOULD LOVE TO COME AND PLAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK, BUT I MISS IT.

I LIKE THAT TRADITION TOO.

DO WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE SCHEDULE WE HAD BEFORE WITH MUSIC AND PROCLAMATIONS RUNNING IT THE WAY THAT WE BASICALLY HAD RUN IT BEFORE MAYER, CAN YOU JUST GO OVER WHAT IT USED TO BE LIKE? JUST SO THAT WE, UH, SO, UM, UH, WE, UH, DURING THE, THE, THE DINNER BREAK, UM, AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN PROCLAMATIONS BECAUSE IT WAS A DINNER BREAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT ME, UH, DURING DINNER BREAK, UH, WE, UM, UH, INVITE A, UH, UH, ARTISTS FROM THE COMMUNITY FROM DIFFERENT GENRES AND THEY COME IN AND PLAY KIND OF A, UH, MUSIC INTERLUDE, A SONG OR TWO IT'S RELATIVELY SHORT, BUT IT DOES GIVE PEOPLE SOME, UH, VISIBILITY, BUT IT ALSO, WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME, SOME, UH, WELL-KNOWN ARTISTS PERFORM JUST A WAY TO BRING MUSIC INTO THE CHAMBER WHEN THE MUSIC IS DONE, THEY, THEY CLEAR THE STAGE HERE QUICKLY, AND THEN WE WOULD MOVE THEN INTO PROCLAMATION.

UH, AND, UM, UH, IT'S, DOESN'T STOP THE PRACTICE OF BEING ABLE TO DELIVER PROCLAMATIONS INDEPENDENT OF THOSE MEETINGS OR DELIVER THEM AT MEETINGS.

UH, BUT SOME PROCLAMATIONS, UH, USUALLY TWO TO FIVE PROCLAMATIONS, UH, WE WOULD DO FROM THE, UH, PODIUM, UH, AND PEOPLE WOULD SOMETIMES INVITE OTHERS TO COME IN AND, AND WATCH.

SO IT HAPPENS DURING THE LUNCH BREAK.

UH, USUALLY THE LUNCH BREAK THEN GOES FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, UH, AND THE FIRST, UH, HALF AN HOUR TO 40 MINUTES OF IT, UH, FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE HERE, UH, A LOT OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE RETIRING TO DO WORK AND TO DO OTHER KINDS OF THINGS, BUT THOSE THAT WANT TO BE HERE CAN BE HERE FOR THE MUSIC AND THE PROCLAMATIONS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO IF THAT'S THE WILL A MANAGER, IS THAT OKAY IF WE CAN DO THAT? UH, I KNOW IT TAKES TIME TO KIND OF SET THAT UP AND SCHEDULE THAT.

SO, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT AS THIS RARELY HAPPENS TO HAVE PAM AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT, UH, IF, IF THEIR CLERK'S OFFICE COULD, UH, GET US BACK TO THAT PRACTICE.

OKAY.

ARE THERE ISSUES THAT YOU THOUGHT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO TALK ABOUT? UH, YOU HAD ALSO TALKED ABOUT GROUPING SPEAKERS, UM, THE WAY THAT IT'S HAPPENING NOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE SIGNING UP, WE TAKE THE IN ROOM SPEAKERS FIRST THAT WE TAKE THE PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN, UH, AND, AND WE'LL CONTINUE.

THE PRACTICE THAT WAS SET UP FOR US LAST WEEK DID THAT WE DID IN ZONING, BUT DID NOT, UH, CARRY OVER TO, I DIDN'T PICK UP ON IT FOR THE FIRST PART, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD A LIST THAT BROKEN OUT BY NUMBERS.

AND I DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT.

SO WE'LL CALL THE SPEAKERS IN GROUPS, UH, BY THE MATTER THAT THEY'VE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON.

YEAH.

AND I THINK, I THINK FROM THE TIME THAT WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION HERE AT WORK SESSION TO NOW, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF RIGHTED ITSELF A BIT.

UM, I'M

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SORRY.

I'M STILL HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE FOLLOWING YOU THOUGH.

SO WHEN, SO LET'S, LET'S KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE DAY.

IF WE COULD, WHEN WE TAKE UP THE CONSENT AGENDA, YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE, UM, SO WE PULL, SAY WE HAVE SPEAKERS WHO ARE MORE THAN TWO SPEAKERS ON A CONSENTED AGENDA ITEM, AND THEY'VE CALLED IN, ARE THEY GOING TO COME UP IN THE SAME WAY? I THINK WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING IS LIKE, HOW ARE WE, HOW ARE WE FALLING BACK ON OUR FORMER PROCESS WITH THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS? SO IN ORDINARY PRACTICE, WE WOULD PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THEN WE WOULD TAKE UP SAY NUMBER NINE, BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN PULLED BY SPEAKERS.

THOSE, THOSE TWO SPEAKERS ARE BOTH ONLINE.

DO THEY GET TO SPEAK AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE DAY BEFORE WE PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA? OR DO WE HEAR FROM THEM WHEN WE TAKE UP ITEM NINE AFTER WE PASS THE CONSENT AGENDA? YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE TAKE THEM UP IN THE MORNING AS WE HAVE BEEN, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SHOW UP AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.

AND THEN TO LEAVE.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SPEAKERS THAT LIKE TO SPEAK WHEN THE ITEM JUST COMES UP.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO'VE SAID THAT THEY LIKED BEING ABLE TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING.

CAUSE THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIT HERE ALL DAY.

AND SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE SAT HERE FOR NINE, 10 HOURS WAITING TO SPEAK, WHICH BECOMES ITS OWN KIND OF PROHIBITIVE THING.

AND WE DON'T ALWAYS KNOW EXACTLY WHEN WE CALL THE CONSENT SPEAKERS.

WHAT'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY END UP ON CONSENT OR NOT END UP ON CONSENT.

I MEAN, WE, WE PULL THINGS, BUT OFTENTIMES WE'LL PULL THINGS JUST BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE.

SO, UH, ABSENT, UH, THE ROLE OF THE COUNCIL BEING DIFFERENTLY, I WOULD KEEP THAT PART THE SAME.

I WOULD INVITE PEOPLE TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING, UM, UH, HAVE THE MORNING CALL FOR SPEAKERS, THEN HAVE THE AFTERNOON CALL FOR ZONING.

SORRY.

I'M STILL NOT FALLING.

SO I, I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU.

I MEAN, IF PEOPLE WANT TO SPEAK, GET IT DONE WITH AND LEAVE, THEY GET TO DO THAT.

WHETHER THEY'RE ON THE PHONE OR HERE IN PERSON, THEY CAN SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY AND LEAVE IF THEIR PREFERENCE IS TO TALK ABOUT IT.

WHEN, I MEAN, I WOULD JUST SAY IT CONTINUES TO BE, I THINK MORE IMPACTFUL IF PEOPLE SPEAK AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING THE ITEM, BECAUSE THEN IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, WE CAN ASK THEM.

BUT ALSO IT JUST, IT'S VERY, I THINK, I MEAN, AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I WOULD PREFER ALWAYS TO SPEAK AT THE TIME AT THE TIME THAT'S HAPPENING.

BUT I, I GET THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT OPTION TO HAVE FOR PEOPLE WHO, WHO DON'T WANT TO WAIT AND WHATNOT TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AND LEAVE, BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO ARE THEY'VE, THEY'VE SIGNED UP TO TALK ABOUT CONSENT.

THEY'RE NOT IN THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUST TALK BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE DAY GOES ON, THEY ARE GOING TO STAY AND SPEAK TO ITEM NINE.

DO THEY SPEAK IF IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, DO THEY SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY? OR DO THEY SPEAK WHEN WE PULL IT? WHEN WE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING IT UP HERE ON THE DIOCESE IT'S BEEN PULLED FROM CONSENT, NUMBER NINE IS PULLED FROM CONSENT.

RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE ABOUT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

HAVE WE ALREADY HEARD THOSE SPEAKERS OR DO THEY HAVE THE OPTION OF SPEAKING AT THAT TIME? IF THEY'RE ON THE PHONE? WELL, THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT HERE BEFORE, IF THEY DIDN'T, WE GOT PULLED, THEY DON'T SPEAK TILL THE ITEM ACTUALLY GETS CALLED.

UM, THERE ARE THERE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF THAT TOO.

IT'S A LOT EASIER TO TIME MANAGE A MEETING WHEN EVERYBODY SPEAKS IN THE MORNING AND THEN YOU CAN SET THEM AGENDA AND WORK THROUGH ITEMS. AND I THINK THAT'S IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME, I THINK WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RUN MEETINGS MORE EFFICIENTLY AND, AND MEANINGS SOONER.

SO I THINK AGAIN, THERE ARE TRADE OFFS.

UM, I THINK AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD ALWAYS PREFER TO SPEAK JUST BEFORE AN ITEM GETS CALLED.

UH, BUT I ALSO, UH, AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY, I'VE ALSO HAD MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT ARE UPSET WITH HOW LONG OUR MEETINGS GO.

AND THAT BECOMES ITS OWN BAR TO PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

I UNDERSTAND THE CHOICE ISSUE, UH, BUT THERE'S ALSO FOR ME, I THINK WE DO BETTER WHEN WE RUN A MEETING THAT, THAT GETS US OUT EARLIER THAN, THAN LATER, I THINK WE MAKE BETTER DECISIONS AND WORK BETTER FOR ME.

I WOULD KEEP DOING IT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT NOW IS I WOULD HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK.

I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO GO TO THE PHONE BETWEEN NUMBERS AND TO MAINTAIN THAT SYSTEM.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

CERTAINLY WE COULD SAY, IF YOU DON'T, IF THAT PRESENTED AN ISSUE, WE COULD SAY, WE'LL ASK PEOPLE WHO ARE PHYSICALLY PRESENT IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK DURING THE DAY, IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE PHONE.

I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE HAVEN'T ASKED THAT QUESTION, UH, OR WE CAN STAY WITH THE PRACTICE OF JUST SAYING, LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY TALK, UH, IN, UH, IN THE MORNING.

OKAY.

SO

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I THINK WHAT, WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING FOR ME, I MEAN, IT'S SIX MINUTES, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

IF WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS ON NUMBER SIX, THEN WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO THAT SIX MINUTES, REGARDLESS OF WHEN IT IS.

I THINK, I THINK THE, THE EFFICIENCY OF THE MEETING IS JUST HAVING A CLEAR, HAVING A CLEAR PLAN AND THEN KIND OF FOLLOWING IT THROUGH.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD, I THINK I NEED TO UNDERSTAND, AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IS IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK, YOU KNOW, IF THEY BELIEVE IT'S MOST IMPACTFUL FOR THEM TO SPEAK AT THE TIME WHEN WE CALL UP THE ITEM, DO THEY ONLY HAVE AN OPTION TO DO THAT? IF THEY'RE HERE IN PUBLIC, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BECOME, RIGHT? IF, IF ALL OF OUR VIRTUAL SPEAKERS HAVE TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING AND DON'T HAVE AN OPTION, MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION OF SPEAKING WHEN THAT ITEM GETS PULLED UP.

THEY ONLY HAVE AN ITEM, AN OPTION OF SPEAKING IN THE MORNING.

THEN I THINK WE NEED TO BROADCAST THAT.

LIKE, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU ARE A VIRTUAL SPEAKER, THESE ARE YOUR TIMES THIS TIME AND YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY THIS TIME, ROUGHLY THIS TIME, BUT YOU WON'T HAVE AN OPTION OF SPEAKING WHEN THE ITEM GETS PULLED UP.

YES.

I THINK THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS.

I THINK THERE ARE TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE IS, DO WE JUST SAY THE RULE IS THAT EVERYBODY SPEAKS VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON DO YOU SPEAK IN THE MORNING? THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE, IF WE'RE GOING TO LET PEOPLE SPEAK ON ITEMS, OTHER THAN JUST IN THE MORNING, IS THAT AN OPTION THAT'S AVAILABLE BOTH IN PERSON AND BY PHONE, OR IS IT AN OPTION THAT'S ONLY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN PERSON? I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS I WOULD FOR ME.

I WOULD SAY EVERYBODY SPEAKS IN THE MORNING, UH, IN PART, BECAUSE IT'S HARD SOMETIMES TO PREDICT HOW LONG THINGS ARE GOING TO TAKE IN THE AFTERNOON TO TURNING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP TO SPEAK OR STAY TO SPEAK, OR COME TO SPEAK.

WE USED TO HAVE A RULE THAT LED PEOPLE COME AND SIGN UP TO SPEAK.

UM, UM, UNTIL THE MOMENT THAT AN ITEM GETS CALLED, UH, WE ALSO, HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT.

UM, UH, HERE LATELY, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SIGNING UP AHEAD OF TIME.

I LIKED THAT PRACTICE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADJUST OUR MEETINGS BASED ON PEOPLE SIGNING UP AHEAD OF TIME TO, TO SPEAK.

UH, AND I THINK THAT'S HELPED US RUN MEETINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE ORDERLY AND A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

SO FOR ME, WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD KEEP THAT RULE THAT YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME.

YOU CAN SIGN UP EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON, BUT ALL THE MORNING PEOPLE SPEAK IN THE MORNING.

AND THEN, THEN WE KNOW THAN HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE REST OF THE DAY LOOKS LIKE.

IF WE WANTED TO HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK BEFORE EVERY ITEM, UH, THEN WE COULD FIND OUT FROM THE CLERK, IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH ENGAGING PEOPLE ON THE PHONE OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY HAS BERBERINE.

ALICE.

I HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS ON IT.

UM, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN WITH FOLKS WHO ARE ABLE TO BE HERE ALL DAY.

UM, NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT ORDER WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THINGS UP IN THAT THAT GET A DIFFERENT PREFERENCE THAN FOLKS WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO.

I KNOW OVER THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE'VE HEARD SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE JUGGLING THEIR KIDS, THEY'RE JUGGLING THEIR WORK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TAKE THE DAY OFF TO COME AND BE HERE WITH US FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW LONG THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE SOME PREDICTABILITY, ESPECIALLY FOR FOLKS IN DISTRICT A, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING HERE AND NOT KNOWING HOW LONG YOU'RE GOING TO SIT HERE.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK AT THAT MOMENT, UM, WOULD, WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE.

AND I THINK BE DIFFICULT FOR SOME OF MY CONSTITUENTS TO COMMIT TO.

UM, SO I DO UNDERSTAND THE BENEFIT OF HEARING THE COMMENTARY RIGHT WHEN WE'RE DISCUSSING THE ITEM.

BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW HOW TO EMAIL US.

WE KNOW EVERY MORNING BEFORE A MEETING, I GET A RUNDOWN OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S COME IN AND, AND WHAT PERSPECTIVES PEOPLE ARE TAKING.

SO WE CERTAINLY WANT THAT FEEDBACK AND VALUE IT.

BUT I JUST KNOW THAT A LOT OF MY DISTRICT CONSTITUENTS CAN'T BE HERE FOR AN UNKNOWN PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE, WHEN THEIR ITEMS GOING TO COME UP.

OR IF, IF THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, I WANT TO SPEAK UP WHEN THE ITEM COMES AND THEN THEY END UP HAVING TO GO GET THEIR KIDS FROM SCHOOL OR RUN SOME OTHER AREA THAT THEY JUST HAVE TO GET COMPLETED THAT DAY.

SO I THINK THAT DOING THEM IN THE MORNING HAS BEEN REALLY HELPFUL SO THAT WE CAN HEAR ALL OF IT, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT UP FRONT.

SO WE UNDERSTAND PERSPECTIVES BEFORE WE TAKE IT UP.

BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ON THE IN-PERSON VERSUS REMOTE.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY, UM, WE NEED TO HAVE OUR EARS OPEN TO OUR CLERK'S OFFICE TO UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE MAY HANG UP BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ON THE PHONE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY MAY NOT WANT TO CALL IN AT NINE 30 OR 10 O'CLOCK WHEN THEY NEED TO CALL IN.

AND THEN BY ONE 30, THEY JUST BEEN ON HOLD FOR HOURS.

SO I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S PREPARED TO SPEAK ON IT.

I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I JUST KNOW YOU HAVE MUCH MORE WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF THAT SYSTEM THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING UP HERE.

UH, JEANETTE GOODALL, CITY CLERK FOR A FEW MORE DAYS.

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UM, I WILL TELL YOU THE REMOTE IS THE TRICKIER PART BECAUSE OF JUST BEING ABLE TO KNOW WHEN TO CALL THEM WHEN TO TELL PEOPLE, UM, WE WILL BE CALLING THEM, UM, AND JUST KEEPING THEM ON THE PHONE BECAUSE MANY OF THEM ARE ON THEIR CELL PHONES, UM, AND RECEPTION DROPS WITH THE CELL PHONES.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CUTTING WHAT YOU ALL DON'T SEE BEHIND THE SCENES IS EVEN DURING THAT WINDOW THAT WE HAVE FOR MORNING AND AFTERNOON, WE ARE CALLING PEOPLE CONSTANTLY AND, OR EMAILING THEM, UH, HELPING THEM GET BACK IN BECAUSE THEIR CALL HAS DROPPED.

AND SO THE MORE YOU MAKE THAT MORE COMPLICATED, THE MORE, IT BECOMES MORE FRUSTRATING, NOT ONLY FOR THEM, BUT FOR US AS WELL.

UM, NOW THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CANNOT ADD ADDITIONAL BATCHES, THAT IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR ITEM THAT YOU ALL DISCUSS, LIKE ON TUESDAY, SO THAT WE CAN PLAN, IT'S HARDER TO ADD BATCHES ON THE FLY, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME PROGRAMMING AND SOME RECORDING, UM, SO THAT WHEN THE PEOPLE ANSWER THEIR PHONE, THEY KNOW WHO THE CALL IS FROM.

UM, SO, BUT IF WE KNOW THAT IN ADVANCE, AND IF THERE'S AN ITEM THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE SEPARATELY, BECAUSE YOU, YOU WANT TO SET IT FOR A TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, A NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.

WE CAN ADD BATCHES IN ADDITION TO THE 10 AND 2:00 PM REMOTE MEETINGS, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW THAT IN ADVANCE SO WE CAN PLAN.

AND SO THAT WE CAN LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHEN THAT ITEM WILL BE TAKEN UP.

UM, AND SO IT DOES MAKE IT EASIER IF WE, UH, IF WE TAKE THEM IN THE BIGGER BATCHES SO THAT WE CAN MANAGE THEM, UM, AT ONE TIME, BECAUSE CURRENTLY IT TAKES AT LEAST THREE STAFF MEMBERS TO MANAGE THAT REMOTE PIECE AND KEEP EVERYBODY, UM, IN THE QUEUE.

I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.

I KNOW IN MY PERSPECTIVE OF HOW PEOPLE ENGAGE WITH US PUBLICLY, I WANT TO KNOW THAT THE PERSON NAVIGATING THIS FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT THEY NEED OF THEIR SCHEDULE, BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO DATE TO PLAY ON DAYS IN ADVANCE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE RIGHT CHILDCARE OR TO HAVE A DIFFERENT SPOUSE OR GRANDPARENT PICK UP THE KID FROM SCHOOL.

AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE ARE RE NAVIGATING, GETTING THINGS, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, BACK TO NORMAL THAT WE'RE DOING SO WITH A MINDSET OF SOMEONE NAVIGATING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE CLERK COULD TELL THEM WHAT TO EXPECT.

AND SO THAT IS, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE EXPECTATION MOVING THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

SO I DO APPRECIATE HOW MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE THIS HAS BEEN TO THE PUBLICS.

I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD BENEFIT FOR US.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT WORK.

I KNOW A LOT GOES INTO IT, TWO ITEMS. UM, I LIKE THE BATCH IDEA.

UM, AND MAYBE WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT.

UM, I HAVE A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAT I WANT TO JUST LAY ON THE TABLE FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND THAT IS WHEN WE ARE GOING TO POSTPONE, LIKE IN ZONING CASES.

NORMALLY THE CONVERSATION THEN FROM THE PUBLIC IS WHETHER OR NOT TO POSTPONE THAT'S THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF THEM, BUT WE HAVE BEEN ALLOWING THEM TO GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO THE MERITS OF THE, OF THE CASES.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO RETURN BACK TO THE MORE, YES, NO, ON POSTPONEMENT.

IT DOES MEAN THAT PEOPLE COME BACK OR RE-ENGAGE WITH US AT A LATER TIME WHEN AN ITEM IS POSTPONED, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MORE PROXIMATE TO THE ACTUAL DECISION-MAKING.

SO, UM, IF, IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ALSO VERY HELPFUL, PARTICULARLY.

OKAY.

AND IF, IF WE KNOW IN ADVANCE, THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T KNOW A LOT OF TIMES IN ADVANCE WHEN A CASE IS GOING TO GET POSTPONED.

UM, BUT IF I KNOW IN ADVANCE, UM, WHEN WE SEND OUT THE NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS, WE HAVE AT LEAST BEEN, UH, INFORMING THEM THAT, UM, FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS CASE IS GOING TO BE POSTPONED.

UM, BUT SOMETIMES WE DON'T GET THOSE NOTICES UNTIL, YOU KNOW, LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT, WHICH I'M ALREADY ASLEEP, UM, OR, UM, ON THURSDAY.

AND SO WE CAN'T PASS THAT ALONG, BUT IF WE KNOW WE DO RIGHT, UM, WELL, AND I THINK THERE, THERE ARE A COUPLE LAYERS TO THAT TOO, BECAUSE THE DYESS CAN CHOOSE TO POSTPONE AND YOU WOULDN'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT, BUT, UM, JERRY RUSS TOBIN COULD CERTAINLY COPY YOU ON HIS JERRY'S GUESTS.

WE GET 'EM, IT'S JUST A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T GET THEM UNTIL LATE IN THE EVENING BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN JERRY SENDS THEM OUT.

AND SO THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I KIND OF WANTED TO MAYBE MASSAGE A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS THE MESSAGE.

THEN WHEN WE DO INTRODUCE THE ITEM AND MARY, YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT THIS ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

UH, BUT THEN WHEN PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY START TALKING,

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UM, I, I DO THINK WE NEED TO REMIND THEM THAT THE QUESTION IN FRONT OF THEM IS YES OR NO ON POSTPONEMENT, NOT CAUSE WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LISTENING TO THE MERITS.

PART OF IT IS, IS, IS THE CHAIR AND MAINTAINING THAT KIND OF DISCIPLINE.

IF WE WANTED TO DO THAT, I NEED SUPPORT FROM THE DANCE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP.

SO, UH, SOMETIMES PEOPLE SHOW UP AND THEY SAY, LOOK, I'M HERE.

I KNOW YOU'RE POSTPONING FOR TWO WEEKS.

I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK.

I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE HAD TO DO A LOT OF THINGS.

SO IF I'M HERE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO SPEAK.

UH, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE IN THAT INSTANCE, IF SOMEONE'S COME DOWN AND SAYING, OKAY, YOU CAN SPEAK THAT, BUT YOU CAN'T SPEAK LATER.

BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS SOMETIMES BETWEEN NOW AND THEN IT CHANGES AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO CHANGES.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ENFORCE WHATEVER KIND OF RULE YOU YOU WANT TO DO.

UH, SO LONG AS WE'RE TOGETHER ON THAT.

AND AS A DIOCESE, IF SOMEONE SAYS, WELL, ACTUALLY I'M HERE.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT.

NOW WE SAY, SORRY, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THE MATTER HAS BEEN POSTPONED SO THAT THERE'S SOLIDARITY ON THE DESK.

AND SOMEONE DOESN'T SAY WELL, WHILE YOU'RE, I THINK THE ANSWER IS RIGHT IN HOW YOU DESCRIBED IT.

THE FACT IS ON POSTPONEMENTS ISSUES AND DETAILS MAY CHANGE BETWEEN THE FIRST DATE AND THE POSTPONED TO DATE.

AND THAT IS THE RESPONSE BACK TO THE RESIDENT, AS THINGS ARE INFLUX.

AND SO HOLD YOUR FIRE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU, BUT LET'S FIRM THINGS UP AND SEE WHAT THE CHANGES MAY BE.

THE REASON IT'S BEING POSTPONED HAS TO DO WITH ELEMENTS OF THE CASE THAT ARE BEING, THAT ARE INACTIVE, CONTINUE YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICES, AND IT WILL BE RESET.

AND WE WELCOME YOU TO RETURN WHEN WE HAVE A, UM, A BETTER SENSE OF WHAT THE ISSUES IN FRANCE AND IF THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL IS, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT SO LONG AS WE'RE TOGETHER IN THAT.

CAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO SPEAK, WE HAVE THIS KIND OF AWKWARD MOMENTS ON THAT DAY.

AS WITH SOMEONE SAY, WOW, I'LL RECOGNIZE THEM TO, TO, TO SPEAK.

UM, SO TO, TO ISSUES THAT ARE ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW, THE FIRST ISSUE IS THE FIRST ONE THAT KATHY BROUGHT UP ABOUT SPEAKERS.

AND THE QUESTION IS FIRST WE WANT ALL THE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING, OR DO WE WANT TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS THEIR ITEM IS CALLED IF IT WAS NOT HANDLED ON CONSENT? UM, I THINK THAT'S THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ONE QUESTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF US NOW, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK AS ITEMS ARE CALLED, UH, THEN, UH, UM, WE, WE, WE HAVE THE KIND OF, UH, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE COULD, WE COULD DO IT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT IS THAT IT WOULD BE CALLED.

SO YOU'D BE CALLING PEOPLE ON THE PHONE AND SAYING, UH, YOU HAD SIGNED UP ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, WE'RE NOW CALLING ITEM NUMBER NINE.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK ON THIS ITEM NUMBER NINE? OR WOULD WE DO, OR DO PEOPLE CHARGED WITH WATCHING IT AS THEY HAD IN THE PAST? AND THEY COULD CALL IN AND SAY, I'VE, WE'RE NOW CALLING IT NUMBER NINE.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT'S CALLING IN TO, TO, TO, TO SPEAK TO US? SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN COMPLETELY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

UM, WE ARE TALKING WITH THE VENDOR ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL WAYS OF KEEPING A BATCH OPEN AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S POSSIBLE AND HOW WE COULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME BACK INTO A BATCH.

BECAUSE TYPICALLY ONCE WE TAKE THE REMOTE SPEAKERS, WE CLOSE THAT BATCH SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE JUST CALLING IN AND HANGING AROUND FOR NOTHING.

UM, AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE GOING FORWARD.

UM, I JUST KNOW THAT CREATING A BATCH TO THE DAY OF THE MEETING FOR SOMEONE TO CALL IN FIVE MINUTES BEFORE YOU TAKE UP THE ITEM WOULD BE VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

OKAY.

I MEAN, FOR ME, WITHOUT STOPPING YOUR MEETING AND GIVING US 15, 20 MINUTES TO GET EVERYTHING RIGHT, I'M HEARING, I'M HEARING LOTS OF POSITIVE KUDOS FOR HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT.

UH, AND HAVING THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS IN THE MORNING, KNOWING WHAT NUMBERS THEY'RE SIGNED UP FOR HAS REALLY HELPED US SET KIND OF THE, THE MEETING AND THE ORDER THE DAY BEFORE IS WE'RE FIGURING OUT.

AND EVEN TO BE ABLE TO COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL ON HOW MUCH TIME SPEAKERS SHOULD HAVE RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE, HAVE SIGNED UP.

UM, SO I, I, MY PERSONAL, I WOULD KEEP WHAT WE HAVE NOW, CAUSE I THINK IT'S WORKING WELL, KATHY.

UH, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE MCKELLY.

YEAH, I THINK AT SOME POINT IT JUST ALSO BECOMES, UM, I'M NOT SURE THE BENEFIT OF HAVING PEOPLE SPEAK AT THE TIME OF THE ITEM OUTWEIGHS WHAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY CHALLENGING LOGISTICAL

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PROCESS AND ONE THAT ALREADY REQUIRES A LOT OF STAFF TIME.

SO I AGREE, I THINK IN, IN LESS THAN UNTIL WE HAVE A DIFFERENT KIND OF PORTAL, IT MAKES BEST SENSE IF YOU'RE CALLING IN VIRTUALLY ON CONSENT ITEMS, I GUESS, OR ANY OTHER ITEM ON THE, ON THE AGENDA, THAT'S NOT ZONING ALLOWING THOSE FOLKS OR REQUIRING THOSE FOLKS TO TALK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY, MAKES SENSE.

IF YOU'RE HERE IN PERSON, YOU HAVE AN OPTION, IS THAT ACCURATE? YOU HAVE AN OPTION OF DOING IT IN THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY OR LATER WHEN THE ITEM IS PULLED, YOU WOULD HAVE THAT.

AND WE COULD DECIDE THAT THAT'S EXACTLY THE PRACTICE WE DID BEFORE.

YEAH.

IT'S NOT THE PRACTICE WE'VE BEEN DOING, UM, HERE FOR THE LAST, YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST WE KEEP THAT OPTION.

HAVE THAT BE AN OPTION? I MEAN, I AGREE.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE, ARE, UM, HAPPY ABOUT THE ABILITY TO CALL IN.

INSTEAD OF COME DOWN, I DO WANT TO PRESERVE THE OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO TALK AT THE TIME THE ITEM COMES UP.

I JUST, I MEAN, AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER, I HEARD LOTS OF CRITICISM ABOUT ANOTHER BODY IN TOWN THAT ONLY ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TALK IN THE BATCHED WAY IN THE BEGINNING AND IT DISCONNECTS IT SOMETIMES FROM THE CONVERSATION.

SO I THINK PRESERVING THAT OPPORTUNITY MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I ALSO HAVE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO TALK AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GO ON AND ON TOO MUCH TODAY, BUT I DO, LIKE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN UP LATER THAN WE HAVE BEEN.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OF DOING IT WHILE WE'RE VIRTUAL, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT CUTOFF TIME.

AND I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK VIRTUALLY THAT, THAT CUTOFF TIME, THAT PRE-REGISTRATION NEEDS TO APPLY, I THINK IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO COME DOWN HERE AND TALK, YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO SIGN UP BEFORE WE TAKE UP THE ITEM ON THE DIOCESE.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE TIMES.

COULD I EXPLAIN BEFORE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE NODDING THEIR HEAD NOW, UM, THERE ARE MULTIPLE TIMES WHERE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, WE MAY TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE ON TUESDAY AND IT HITS THE NEWSPAPERS ON WEDNESDAY.

AND SO THEY MAY BE ONLY FINDING OUT ABOUT THAT ISSUE FOR THE FIRST TIME ON WEDNESDAY.

AND I KNOW POSTING OUR AGENDAS EARLIER HAS HELPED, BUT, BUT IT JUST IS THE CASE THAT THERE MAY BE THAT THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO WILL HAVE MISSED THAT SIGNUP DEADLINE ON WEDNESDAY AND WANT TO COME ADDRESS THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS ON THURSDAY.

AND I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO DO THAT IF THEY ARE WILLING TO COME DOWN HERE AND DO SO, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY MISSED THE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION.

I THINK ALL OF THESE CHANGES HAVE WORKED TOWARD PROVIDING MORE ACCESS FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND I, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT PIECE OF IT CURTAILED THAT WE, THAT WE HAD IN PLACE PREVIOUSLY.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE OF THE VIRTUAL.

I DON'T, I DON'T SEE IT NECESSARY FOR, UM, THE WAY WE RUN OUR IN-PERSON MEETINGS.

MY QUESTION GOT ANSWERED.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO YEAH.

UH, WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

I, WHEN WE, WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE, THAT WAS ALSO CREATING A PROBLEM WAS WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE GOING, THEY COULD SPEAK TO AN ITEM WHEN THE ITEM WAS PULLED, WE THEN HAD STARTED HAVING PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING TO SET FOR TIME CERTAIN THEIR ITEMS, BECAUSE THEY HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO BE SHOWING UP TO SPEAK AND THEY WANTED TO GIVE THEM A TIME WHEN THEY COULD SHOW UP TO SPEAK, WHICH I UNDERSTOOD TOO, BUT THAT ALSO JUST REALLY MAKES IT SO HARD TO BE ABLE TO, TO RUN AN EFFICIENT MEETING BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE WORKING AROUND, UM, A TIME WHEN, WHEN, WHEN SPEAKERS GET CALLED AND PEOPLE WERE DOING THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD SHOW UP TO SPEAK AND THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHEN THEIR ITEM WAS GOING TO GET CALLED.

AND THEN FOR THAT, WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE, WERE, WERE SITTING OVER THE COURSE OF THE DAY AND SOME PEOPLE CAN DO THAT.

AND SOME PEOPLE CAN'T AND THAT NEVER SEEMED FAIR TO ME.

SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

UH, KATHY, AND CERTAINLY THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL SHOULD, SHOULD, SHOULD GOVERN.

I, I WOULD HAVE PEOPLE SIGN UP AHEAD OF TIME.

WE POST OUR AGENDAS TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE AS WE'VE BEEN DOING IT THAT LETS US REALLY BE ABLE TO, TO SET A MEETING.

AND I WOULD HAVE EVERYBODY SPEAKING IN THE MORNING, UH, THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT HAS ENABLED US TO, TO REALLY JUGGLE AND DO THE ITEMS THAT WE COULD DO QUICKLY.

AS PEOPLE WERE WORKING THINGS OUT OVER THE, ON THE, ON THE, ON THE DAY IS IT'S A SYSTEM.

I THINK THAT'S WORKED WELL FOR US HERE, OR LAST 20 MONTHS, I WOULD I'D RECOMMEND KEEPING IT.

UH, BUT THERE ARE NO GOOD CHOICES MEANS THERE'S THERE'S ADVANTAGES OF DISADVANTAGES TO, TO ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD DO BECAUSE REMEMBER ELLIS, I JUST, AGAIN HAVE PRETTY SERIOUS RESERVATIONS ABOUT ONE METHOD OF COMMUNICATING WITH US ONLY BEING AVAILABLE TO FOLKS THAT CAN BE HERE FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME.

I THINK WE'VE DONE GREAT WORK OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO HEAR FROM ALL PEOPLE.

UM, ONE OF THE SILVER LININGS OF HAVING TO DO THINGS REMOTE WAS THAT WE FIGURED OUT THE CLERK'S OFFICE FIGURED OUT A SYSTEM SO THAT PEOPLE WHO CAN'T TAKE OFF A WHOLE DAY OF WORK TO COME SPEAK TO US, UM, AREN'T HERE

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ALL DAY.

AND SO I JUST WOULD LIKE THE OPTIONS TO BE THE SAME FOR ANYONE, NO MATTER IF THEY CAN TAKE THE DAY, THE FULL DAY OFF OR NOT.

SO I REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD OF PUBLIC PARTICIPATION AND COMMUNICATION WITH THAT.

YES.

CAN, CAN I ASK YOU TO EXPLAIN HOW ALLOWING PEOPLE TO REGISTER AFTER WEDNESDAY CURTAILS SOMEONE ELSE'S ABILITIES TO PARTICIPATE? I JUST DON'T, I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE WRONG ABOUT THAT.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTION.

AND, AND I JUST THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS FORECLOSING AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT AN ISSUE ON WEDNESDAY.

IT WAS LESS ABOUT THE TIMING OF PEOPLE SIGNING UP AND JUST MORE ABOUT WHEN WE HEAR THAT INFORMATION.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CLERK IS ABLE TO DO THINGS MORNING OF IF WE'RE STILL ALLOWING THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION PROCESS AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE FOLLOWING, WE'RE DOING IT THE SAME FOR EVERYBODY.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS CAN'T COME SIGN UP THAT MORNING AND CAN'T COME SIT HERE ALL DAY.

AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO ADVOCATE FOR MAKING SURE, HOWEVER WE'RE DOING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IS SOMETHING THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE CAN HANDLE AND THAT EVERYBODY'S GETTING THE SAME ACCESS TO US.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL WANT TO MAKE THE MEETINGS AS ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE AS POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT, ABOUT THIS, UM, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE SHOULD, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE VIRTUAL SIGNUP BE BY THE DAY BEFORE AS THE CURRENT PRACTICE, UM, AND THAT WE COULD ALLOW FOLKS TO COME IN ON THE DAY OF IF THEY'RE IN PERSON TO SIGN UP.

AND THEN THE MAIN QUESTION NOW IS WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP IN PERSON CAN COME AND SPEAK ON A PARTICULAR ITEM AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO STAY ALL DAY, UM, I'M FINE WITH EITHER WAY, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WHATEVER WE DO DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE.

I THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING USED TO HAVING TO ITERATE AND HAVING TO SEE WHERE THINGS ARE.

UM, SO WE COULD CHOOSE ONE WAY AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.

UM, AND IF IT SEEMS TO BE PROBLEMATIC IN SOME WAY, THEN WE COULD SWITCH IT AGAIN.

I DON'T THINK WHAT WE DO AS OUR NEXT ITERATION IS GOING TO BE THE FINAL AND PERFECT ITERATION.

UM, CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST TO THINGS.

I THINK IT'S GREAT IF WE CAN CONTINUE THE VIRTUAL, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN, SIGN UP, UM, THAT WILL AFFECT, YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF MINUTES THAT PEOPLE GET.

IF WE GET A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SHOWING UP IN PERSON.

UM, BUT I DO AGREE THAT PEOPLE SOMETIMES ONLY FIND OUT ABOUT THE ITEM THE DAY BEFORE OR THE DAY OF, AND SO I'D LIKE THERE TO BE A MECHANISM, UM, EVEN IF BOTH ARE NOT POSSIBLE.

UM, AND I WOULD SUPPORT EITHER ONE FOR THE IN-PERSON.

UM, BUT I, BUT I, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CHOOSE ONE AND TRY IT.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

I JUST WANTED TO ECHO, UM, SIMILAR SENTIMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS AND SHARING THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE SAME PLAYING FIELD FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS.

AND SO IF WE'RE, IF I WOULD SUPPORT US GOING DOWN THE STRATEGY OF, IF THEY'RE IN-PERSON THAT THEY SPEAK AT ONE TIME VERSUS PULLING IT UP BY ITEM UH, YEAH, I, UM, I AGREE WITH A LOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, THE THING THAT I ALWAYS HAVE CONCERNED IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE ALLOW SPEAKERS TO, UH, WHEN WE MADE SPEAKERS TO SPEAK AT THE ITEM WAS PULLED, THEY WERE IN AND ATTENDED IN PERSON AND WE WOULD GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE WERE SPENT HOURS IN THERE BEFORE COMING BACK OUT.

AND NOW WE HAVE MADE PEOPLE WAIT.

AND IF WE HAD, UH, OUR MUSIC AND POP DONATION, THEN THEY HAD TO WAIT TILL NIGHT.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I HAVE CONCERNED THAT WE SHOULD ALSO GIVE THE PEOPLE AN OPTION TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING, UM, ON ITEMS, WHETHER IT'S CONSENT OR NOT.

AND, UH, SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEND ALL DAY IF THEY WANT TO THAT THERE'LL BE FINE.

WHEN DIANE COMES UP, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED, WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK.

SO WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL AT DIFFERENT PLACES.

UM, THE, UH, THAT'S OKAY.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF WHO WE ARE.

UM, WELL WE, WE COULD DO, UM, I WOULD PROPOSE

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THAT WE HAVE EVERYBODY SPEAK IN THE MORNING RATHER THAN PULL UP HER INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, BUT THEN WE CHANGED THE TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.

WE KEEP IT THE DAY BEFORE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SIGNING UP TO SPEAK REMOTELY SO THAT YOU CAN PROGRAM THAT AND AT WORK ON THAT.

BUT IF SOMEBODY SHOWS UP DAY OF AND WANTS TO SPEAK IN THE MORNING BATCH, WE WOULD LET THEM DO THAT.

THEY HAVE TO SIGN UP.

I WOULD STILL SUGGEST THAT WE CUT THAT OFF, LIKE AT NINE, 15 OR SOMETHING DAY OF THAT'LL GIVE US THEN 45 MINUTES TO TRY TO, WELL KNOW THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS.

SO WE CAN THEN BETTER PROGRAM THE, THE REST OF THE DAY.

I WOULD PROPOSE THAT AS KIND OF THE NEXT ITERATION OR COMPROMISE THAT WE TRY.

PEOPLE ARE OKAY WITH THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WHAT WOULD WE, UM, I, I THINK THE EASIEST WAY FOR US RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW ONLINE REGISTRATION FORM THAT MIGHT ASSIST GOING FORWARD, BUT WITH OUR CURRENT PROCESS, IF WE HAD EVERYONE REGISTER ONLINE FROM WHEN IT OPENED UNTIL NOON ON WEDNESDAY AND WE CLOSED THE ONLINE AND SO THEY COULD REGISTER LIKE THEY DO NOW FOR IN-PERSON OR REMOTE, RIGHT? AND THEN AT NOON ON WEDNESDAY, WE COULD OPEN THE SPEAKER KIOSK HERE AT CITY HALL AT NOON ON WEDNESDAY OR SHORTLY AFTER ONCE WE HAVE IMPORTED THE LIST OF IN-PERSON SPEAKERS INTO THE SYSTEM.

UH, AND THAT WAY WE DON'T RUN INTO ANY CONFLICTS WITH TRYING TO IMPORT THE INFORMATION.

AND WE STILL ALLOW ANYONE WHO WAS IN-PERSON COMING DOWN ON THURSDAY AND OPTION OF REGISTERING REMOTELY.

SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO COME DOWN TWICE, ONCE TO REGISTER AND THEN ONCE TO SPEAK, BUT THEN WE COULD OPEN IT UP FOR LATE IN-PERSON REGISTRATIONS ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND THEN CLOSE IT WHENEVER YOU WANTED ON THURSDAY.

SO, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DESCRIBED.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

SO THE ONLINE REGISTRATION ENDS AT NOON, EITHER IN PERSON OR REMOTE, AS SOON AS YOU CAN IMPORT THE DATA INTO THAT, THAT YOU OPEN UP THE KIOSKS, WHICH REQUIRES SOMEONE TO BE PHYSICALLY HERE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO SIGN UP, RIGHT.

SOMEONE COULD COME DOWN WHATEVER TIME IT IS ON WEDNESDAY WHEN THE KIOSK IS UP AND RUNNING AND THE KIOSKS WOULD BE UP AND RUNNING ON THURSDAY MORNING UNTIL SOME POINT YES.

AND WHERE I WANT TO LEAVE ENOUGH TIME.

BUT BEFORE 10 O'CLOCK TO CLOSE THAT, SO THAT AGAIN, YOU COULD GET THE NUMBERS TO, UH, OUT SO WE COULD SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE.

THERE'S NINE, 15, GIVE US SUFFICIENT TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

I BELIEVE SO, BUT I WILL NOT BE HERE WHEN WE DO THIS.

SO WHERE DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO YOU? RIGHT.

SO THE KIOSKS WOULD BE OPEN TILL NINE 15, BUT THEN THE KIOSKS ARE CLOSED.

YES.

UH, AND THEN OTHER SPEAKERS ARE SET FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE DAY.

OKAY.

LET'S RUN WITH THAT FOR THE NEXT SIMON AND SEE HOW THAT GOES.

AND I WOULD JUST SAY, WELL, I'M UP HERE AND I HAVE YOUR EAR, UM, FOR LIVE MUSIC AND PROCLAMATIONS, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU NOT SET TIME CERTAINS OR COME BACK AT SIX 30 BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES THAT MEAN THE MAYOR DOESN'T GET A BREAK, THE ATX IN THE CTM AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE ALSO DO NOT GET A DINNER BREAK, UM, WITH MUSIC AND PROX.

CAUSE SOMETIMES THEY CAN LAST A WHILE.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

SO I, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LIVE MUSIC, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO SEVEN PROCLAMATIONS, SOMETIMES THAT CAN GO UNTIL SIX 30.

UM, AND IF STAFF STAFF HAS TO BE HERE FOR THOSE.

UM, AND SO IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT SIX 30 STAFF HAS TO BE BACK HERE AT SIX 30 IN PREPARATION FOR YOU RETURNING, WHICH MEANS THEY DO NOT GET A BREAK.

SO I WOULD JUST ASK IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE EVENING, YOU BUILD IN TIME FOR STAFF TO HAVE A BREAK IN BETWEEN WHEN PROX WILL END AND WHEN YOU RETURN.

SO LET'S ALSO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PROXIES TO FIVE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE FIRST FIVE ON GET CALLED SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE RUNNING AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ALWAYS AT LEAST 45 MINUTES FROM THE CLOSE OF MUSIC AND PRODUCTS BEFORE WE COME BACK SO THAT STAFF CAN, HAS A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO, TO MEET, TO EAT AS WELL.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.

I'M JUST THINKING THROUGH THAT TIME.

SO IF WE SAY FIVE PROX AT FIVE MINUTES, THAT'S 25 MINUTES ADDING 45 MINUTES KIND OF PUTS US AT A WEIRD TIME.

I MEAN, BUT WELL, I WAS THINKING, WELL, WE HAVE FIVE

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PRODUCTS AT FIVE MINUTES AND THEN WE HAVE MUSIC WE'RE REALLY 6 45.

THAT'S 30.

SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WHENEVER IT STOPPED AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE FEWER PROXIES, SOMETIMES THE BAND GETS A HOT AT ALL MORE QUICKLY.

SO WHATEVER WE STOP, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WE'RE NOT SAYING IT WILL NECESSARILY START EXACTLY 45 MINUTES AFTER WE STOPPED.

BUT WE'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT WE WILL GIVE STAFF AT LEAST A 45 MINUTE BREAK AFTER PROCTOR OVER AND AFTER MUSIC IS OVER.

SO IF IT ENDS AT SIX 30, WE CAN'T START ANY EARLIER THAN SEVEN 15.

IF IT ENDS AT 6 45, WE CAN'T START ANY EARLIER THAN SEVEN 30.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

I MEAN, WE USED TO HAVE A RULE OF 15 MINUTES AFTER, WHICH IS PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH TIME.

SAY THAT AGAIN.

I SAID THERE USED TO BE A RULE OF 15 MINUTES AFTER PRODUCTS, WHICH NEVER GAVE ANYBODY ENOUGH TIME.

45 IS FINE.

I JUST THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO LAND US AT A MID, AT A MIDMARK, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF SEVEN 30, IT WILL BE SEVEN 15, IT'LL BE 6 45.

IT JUST, IT JUST IS.

I JUST KNOW WHEN WE AREN'T COMING BACK, WHEN WE'RE COMING BACK AT A MIDPOINT BETWEEN AN HOUR AND A HALF HOUR, WE TEND NOT TO COME BACK ON TIME.

SO IT JUST, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT JUST TAKES A LITTLE THOUGHT OFF THE DIET.

MAYBE IT'S A 30 MINUTE, 30 MINUTES AFTER PROXY IN, BECAUSE THAT GETS US BACK AT AN EVEN NUMBER.

BUT I THINK THE PRINCIPLE OF HAVING, HAVING A LIMITATION ON PRODUCTS, UNLESS THERE'S AN, UH, YOU KNOW, A REAL, UH, WILD SITUATION WHERE SOMEBODY NEEDS A PRODUCT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THAT'S THE LIMITING FACTOR THAT I THINK GETS US BACK ON TIME AND WHICH IS 30 MINUTE BREAK WOULD BE FINE.

OKAY.

SO LET'S TRY AND DO 30 MINUTES.

WE WON'T START ANY EARLIER THAN 30 MINUTES AFTER WE DO THAT.

LET'S SEE IF WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH THE FIVE PRODUCTS, BECAUSE I REALLY WANT US TO TRY TO BE DONE AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO 6 45.

UH, CAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING TIME ON THE BACK OF THAT.

SO IT'S TRY FIVE PRODUCTS.

LET'S SEE IF WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH THAT, WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE A 30 MINUTE BREAK THAT STAFF KNOWS, UH, AT THE END OF APPROXIMATE MUSIC WORLD LIVE MUSIC.

IF, IF WE COULD WAIT UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETINGS TO IMPLEMENT ANY OF THOSE CHANGES, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO GET WITH THE MUSIC OFFICE AND START SCHEDULING.

I THINK THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

ALISON, UM, I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, JEANETTE NOT MYRNA, IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER ASPECTS OF THE FUNCTIONING OF THE DAY THAT YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT OR THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE SUGGESTIONS TO US.

OH, WELL PUT ME ON THE SPOT.

UM, I WILL SAY ONE OF THE, UH, PROBABLY THE THING THAT WE HEAR THE MOST IS, UM, IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK AT SEVEN 30, UM, AND IT'S EIGHT O'CLOCK BY THE TIME YOU GET BACK AND GET STARTED, THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE HEAR FROM RESIDENTS BECAUSE ESPECIALLY IF IT'S RIGHT BEFORE WE HAD TO CALL THEM, THAT'S AN EXTRA 30 MINUTES THAT THEY'RE ON THE CALL HANGING.

UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT AS YOU GO FORWARD, YOU KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF, UM, AND MONITOR A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

IF YOU SAY YOU'RE COMING BACK AT SEVEN 30, YOU'RE BACK AT SEVEN 30, IF POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S A SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION ALSO FOR THOSE OF US ON THE DIOCESE.

UM, I WAS AT A PRESS CONFERENCE AND SO IT WAS LATE TODAY.

SO I WILL SAY THIS RECOGNIZING THAT I WAS LATE THIS MORNING, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE SOME TIME WHEN WE'RE COMING A LITTLE BIT LATE, BUT WHEN NOT A QUORUM IS HERE, WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO START, I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CHANGE OURSELVES BY JUST SHOWING UP ON TIME WHEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE AND STARTING, IF THERE'S SIX OF US, UM, YOU KNOW, AS APPROPRIATE OR GETTING WHATEVER WE CAN GET DONE.

UM, WITH SIX OF US, THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, A STRAGGLER TOO.

WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF COMMITMENTS, BUT IF THERE IS A QUORUM ON THE DIOCESE, THEN WE GET MOVING AND THEN THAT BECOMES THE NORM.

UM, AND I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT ALL THE TIME, I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL CAPABLE OF, OF DOING.

IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE, UH, MOVING IN SYNC AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD SAVE US A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

WE COULD PROBABLY SAVE AT LEAST A HALF AN HOUR, EVERY MEETING.

UM, IF WE ALL SHOWED UP AT THE TIME, UM, THAT WE SAID WE WOULD BE BACK, IT SOUNDS RIGHT.

HI COLLEAGUES.

LET'S MOVE.

DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE HAVE, UH, UH, TWO POOLED ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS ITEM NUMBER TAN.

UM, YOU DIDN'T NEED TO PULL THAT.

NO, WE HAD A LITTLE

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BIT OF A MISCOMMUNICATION.

OKAY.

THAT GETS US TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WE CONVEYED IT TO THE STAFF.

OKAY.

SO THEN

[35. Approve an ordinance amending City Code Chapter 2-10 (Municipal Court) to establish the City Marshal Office as a division of the Austin Municipal Court; repealing sections 2-6-1 through 2-6-14 of the City Code related to the former Public Safety and Emergency Management Department to remove obsolete sections of the City Code, renumbering remaining sections accordingly, and renaming Chapter 2-6 (Public Safety and Emergency Management Department).]

ITEM NUMBER 35, UM, WHICH IS TO ESTABLISH THE CITY MARSHAL OFFICE CLERK, MARSHALL OFFICE.

UM, I, WE, THIS WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

TOBO ALTER, UH, AND I PULLED THAT AS A AS WELL.

UM, LET'S REAL QUICKLY, KATHY, WHY DON'T YOU SAY WHY YOU PULLED IT OR WHAT YOUR CONCERN WAS OR WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ADDRESSED, THEN ALISON, YOU CAN DO THAT, THEN I'LL DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO TO STAFF.

SO I THINK IN TERMS OF THE BIG PICTURE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, UM, THEY RANGE FROM WHAT ARE THE FI WHAT WOULD BE THE FINANCIAL EFFICIENCIES? LET ME BACK UP AND SAY, I KNOW WE ONCE HAD A MARSHALL PROGRAM AND IT WAS DISCONTINUED AND I'M INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING BETTER.

WHY, WHY THE SHIFT? UM, I, I KNOW THAT PART OF THIS IS AT LEAST I THOUGHT PART OF IT WAS ABOUT FINANCIAL EFFICIENCIES AND OTHER KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS IN LINE WITH OUR RE-IMAGINING, UM, POLICING CONVERSATION YET.

I, I, I KNOW FROM TALKING, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FROM, FROM REVIEWING SOME OF THE CONCERNS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT, THAT, THAT DOESN'T, THESE WOULD, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW THIS FUNCTIONS WITHIN THAT.

IT WASN'T.

UM, AND I GUESS I ALSO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS OF VETTING THIS AND HOW MUCH OF A COMMUNITY PROCESS IT'S BEEN.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT OUR, OUR RE-IMAGINING TASKFORCE HAS DISCUSSED.

AND SO MY, MY QUESTIONS RANGE FROM, YOU KNOW, REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE, HOW IT WOULD FUNCTION, WHAT THE TRAINING IS, WHAT DOES OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY LOOK LIKE, UM, WHAT KINDS OF, WHAT KINDS OF RESPONSIBILITIES THEY WOULD HAVE AND, AND HOW IT WOULD FIT INTO OUR EXISTING SYSTEM, INCLUDING STATE REGULATIONS FOR PEACE OFFICERS.

SO, IN MY MIND, THIS IS A PRETTY BIG SHIFT AND THERE WERE A LOT OF COMPONENT QUESTIONS, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT, THAT I WILL BE READY BY THURSDAY TO TAKE THIS BIG JUMP, UM, WITHOUT, WITHOUT REALLY FULLY UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY HOW IT'S GONNA WORK.

ALISON GOOD MORNING.

UM, SO FIRST I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I BELIEVE THAT THE COURTS HAVE AN UNDENIABLE NEED FOR SECURITY, UM, FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYONE.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO GRAPPLE WITH AND UNDERSTAND IS WHETHER THE BEST WAY TO MEET THOSE NEEDS IS BY CREATING A NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS SEEMS TO BE DOING.

UM, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY, THE TRAINING, THE ACCOUNTABILITY, UM, THE EFFICIENCY, AS I MENTIONED, UM, AS COUNCIL MEMBER, TOBO MENTIONED ALSO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS FITS IN WITH THE RE-IMAGINING.

UM, WE WOULD BE SPENDING OVER $2 MILLION TO CREATE THIS, AND I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THOSE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM AND WHAT THOSE BUDGETARY COMMITMENTS LOOK LIKE IN LIGHT OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SECURITY AT OUR MUNICIPAL COURTS, WHICH WE MOST DEFINITELY DO, UM, I'M JUST NOT SURE IF, IF THERE ARE BETTER WAYS, UM, TO ADDRESS THAT.

AND IF THE TIME AND ENERGY THAT WOULD BE PUT INTO CREATING THIS NEW LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY MIGHT BE BETTER PUT INTO MAKING SURE THAT THE ACADEMY IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND WE GET, UM, APD RECRUITS THROUGH THAT PROCESS, YOU CAN SERVE IN THIS ROLE, UM, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS.

SO I HAVE QUESTIONS, UM, ALONG THOSE LINES ABOUT HOW A NEW CHIEF WOULD BE SELECTED, ET CETERA.

UM, AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE JUST TO ASK THE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN APPROPRIATE.

OKAY.

AND THEN I PULLED THIS, UH, IN PART, BECAUSE I ALSO THINK IT'S A BIG CHANGE, UH, AND OBVIOUSLY, UH, OF SIGNIFICANT ISSUE, UH, IN, IN SEVERAL OF THE, THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN KIND OF RE-IMAGINING, UH, POLICING.

UM, SO I PULLED IT BETTER UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE ELEMENTS.

OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE INCREASED SECURITY NEEDS THAT THAT'S BEEN DEMONSTRATED.

QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT.

YOU KNOW, IN, IN FIRST BLUSH ON THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DESIRE FOR US TO TRY AND DOWNLOAD FROM OUR APD OFFICERS.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO DO THAT, THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT BEST FOR THEM TO DO SO THAT THEY CAN FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT THAT APD CAN UNIQUELY DO.

UH, SO IN THAT RESPECT, HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD MAKE SENSE IN THAT CONTEXT.

UM, UH, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAD BEEN RAISED WAS WHETHER OR NOT, HOW DOES THIS, UH,

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GET ACCOUNTED FOR IN RELATION TO THAT HOUSE BILL 1900, DOES THIS COUNT AS INCREASED FUNDING TO APD THAT WE CAN'T CHANGE IN THE FUTURE UNDER, UNDER HOUSE BILL 1900? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT I'VE I CONFIRMATION ON IS THAT THIS HAPPENS OUTSIDE OF THE APD BUDGETS.

SO IT'S NOT A PART OF THE, UH, THE LEGISLATIVE SCHEME AND THE COUNSELOR COULD GEAR IT UP OR GEAR IT DOWN, UH, UH, OR THE COUNCIL COULD.

UM, I ALSO WANNA KNOW, IS THIS KIND OF LIKE THE ARSON INVESTIGATORS THAT ARE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THERE ARE SOME, UM, UH, IN ESSENCE POLICE PARALLELS WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE NOT, THEY DON'T REPORT TO THE POLICE CHIEF, THEY REPORT TO THE FIRE CHIEF IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

I THINK THEY'RE PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND NOT PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS KIND OF A PARALLEL THING TO, UH, TO THAT? AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAD WHEN IT WAS WIZARD WITH RESPECT TO TRAINING IS THE TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED OF SOMEONE IN THIS POSITION GOING THROUGH THE FULL CADET CLASS THAT WE HAVE FOR POLICE, OR IS THERE SOME SHORTER, LESS INVOLVED TRAINING THAT WE WOULD REQUIRE OF SOMEONE WHO WAS DOING SECURITY AND THE COURTS, IF THAT WAS THE CASE, UM, THEN THAT MIGHT BE A REASON TO CONSIDER IT BECAUSE IT WOULD, AGAIN, DOWNLOAD WORK FROM APD AND LET US TAKE THE EXISTING OFFICERS WE HAVE AND BETTER DEPLOY THEM ON THE FRONT LINES TO BE ACTUALLY FIGHTING A CRIME.

SO LET'S CHECK AND SEE IF OTHER PEOPLE IN THE DIETS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THEY WANT A DAYLIGHT, UH, BEFORE WE GO TO A STAFF COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

UM, I HAVE, THANK YOU.

UM, I DO HAVE THE SAME QUESTION, SO I WON'T REPEAT THOSE, BUT I DO DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT, UM, ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION THAT'S SORT OF RELATED.

AND FIRST OFF LET ME SAY, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE AND THE NEED FOR SECURITY AT THE COURT.

SO MY QUESTIONS ARE NOT RELATED TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S NEEDED.

UM, I WOULD LIKE AS YOU'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT OTHERS HAVE ASKED, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE TIME CRUNCH.

BECAUSE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY, YOU YOU'RE GOING TO BE CONTINUING WITH APD OFFICERS OVER THE NEXT 18 MONTHS OR WHATEVER, ANYWAY, BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE A WHILE TO SET UP A CITY MARSHALL OFFICE.

SO IT JUST APPEARS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD DO THE ANALYSIS FIRST BEFORE WE REACHED THE CONCLUSION THAT WE NEED A CITY MARSHALL OFFICE, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, TO MAKE THE CHANGE IMMEDIATELY ANYWAY.

SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED THIS.

I NEED TO SEE A BETTER NEXUS OR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NEED RESULTS IN THIS APPROACH.

UM, AND I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO, UM, UH, ENGAGE WITH THE, UM, WITH THE COMMUNITY MORE, UH, TO ACTUALLY WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION.

AND I APPRECIATE THE SUGGESTION THAT WAS MADE THAT, UM, THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH OPERATIONAL POLICIES IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DONE WITH THE, UH, COMMISSION, BUT THAT'S AFTER THE FACT THAT'S AFTER WE'VE CREATED IT.

AND I THINK THEY NEED TO BE ENGAGED UP FRONT IN THE CONVERSATION, MORE ENGAGED UPFRONT IN THE CONVERSATION, ALONG WITH AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE POTENTIAL OPTIONS ARE.

SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

JUST SO I'M, I'M UP TO SPEED.

UM, MAYBE THE MUNICIPAL COURT CLERK, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, I SEE THAT THE, UM, SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AREN'T HERE.

I DO REMEMBER THIS COMING UP QUITE A LONG TIME AGO.

CAN YOU KIND OF GIVE ME A BRIEF RUNDOWN OF HOW IT, HOW THE TOPIC GOT APPROACHED AND WHY IT MIGHT'VE BEEN DEEMED NECESSARY THROUGH THAT PROCESS? OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE DIOCESE, WE'RE GONNA HEAR ALL THE QUESTIONS, DAYLIGHT, THE QUESTIONS, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO STAFF.

OKAY.

YES, THAT'S.

OKAY.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS, HAVE YOU ALL TAKEN THIS ISSUE TO THE COUNCILS PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE? BECAUSE I THINK THAT MAY BE A GOOD, A GOOD AVENUE FOR ADDITIONAL REVIEW AND DISCUSS, OKAY.

WHY THAT'S THE LIST? THANKS COLLEAGUES.

ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE TURN IT OVER TO STAFF? THAT'S OVER 12 OFF.

JUST ONE THING.

I DIDN'T PREFACE MY COMMENTS, UM, IN, IN THE SAME WAY THAT MY COLLEAGUES DID.

SO I ALSO WANT TO JUST, UH, REALLY EMPHASIZE THAT I AM COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SECURITY AT OUR MUNICIPAL COURT.

SO MY QUESTIONS ARE, ARE ABSOLUTELY WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK

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AS WELL.

I THINK WE'RE ALL UNIFIED ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU'VE HEARD A WHOLE LIST OF QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO HELP US.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO NEED TO ANSWER MULTIPLE QUESTIONS.

UM, THAT I'LL START WITH A BROAD OVERVIEW.

UM, THIS WAS NOT FOR THE RECORD.

THAT'S OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

UM, THE STATEMENT ON THE PRESIDING JUDGE, AND THIS IS MARY JANE GRUB.

SHE IS THE CLERK OF THE COURT.

UM, THIS IS NOT OUR FIRST CHOICE.

AND AS PART OF THE RE-IMAGINING INITIATIVE, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN AT COURT ARE NEEDED TO GO BACK TO APD TO PERFORM OTHER DUTIES.

SO THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANTED.

UM, WE CERTAINLY DO NOT WANT TO BE IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUSINESS.

WE ARE A COURT, WE'RE NOT A BRANCH OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS QUITE NEW TO US.

AND THERE WAS A MARSHAL PROGRAM IN THE PAST.

NEITHER ONE OF US HAVE DEALT WITH A MARSHALL PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO.

THE PRIMARY PURPOSE IS COURT SECURITY.

REALLY THE ONLY PURPOSE IS COURT SECURITY.

I AM HEARD AND RESPECT THE CONCERNS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION.

THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT HAVING PEACE OFFICERS WITH THE AUTHORITY TO ARREST MEANS THAT THIS IS GOING TO FUNCTION LIKE OTHER MARTIAL PROGRAMS IN OTHER CITIES.

UM, WE'RE AUSTIN.

WE DON'T DO WHAT THEY DO.

WE DON'T ARREST PEOPLE AND BRING THEM TO COURT.

WE DO NOT SEND THEM OUT ON SOME KIND OF PATROL TO ARREST PEOPLE.

WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN YEARS.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

ANYBODY THAT COMES TO COURT WITH AN ACTIVE WARRANT CAN COME INTO COURT.

THEY'RE NOT ARRESTED, EVEN IF THEY AREN'T ABLE TO RESOLVE IT, THEY WALK OUT.

UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN DUTIES, BOTH AT MUNICIPAL COURT AND THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE BY PEACE OFFICERS THAT TAKING THIS OFF, UM, TAKING PEOPLE INTO CUSTODY.

AND ONE OF THE AGREEMENTS ON HOW TO HANDLE THE, UM, CAMPING CASES IS THAT INSTEAD OF TAKING PEOPLE TO THE JAIL, THE CENTRAL BOOKING FACILITY, APD IS GOING TO BRING THEM DIRECTLY TO, UH, DACC OR MUNICIPAL COURT.

AND, UM, WE WILL TRY TO GET THEM THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED AT THAT TIME, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, THEY ARE UNDER ARREST.

THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN INTO COURT BY A PEACE OFFICER AT COURT.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM.

THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS THAT ONLY PEACE OFFICERS CAN DO.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND AGAIN, WE HEAR AND WE RESPECT THE CONCERNS, THE COMMUNITY, AND WE ARE WILLING AND WANT TO WORK WITH ADVOCATES TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE AUSTIN DIFFERENT AND UPHOLDS THE VALUES OF THIS CITY.

LET'S SEE.

HI, I'M ANNA.

I'M GOING TO A ADDRESS, A LITTLE BIT OF THE FINANCIAL EFFICIENCY PIECE.

UM, THERE WAS $2.7 MILLION APPROVED IN THE FISCAL YEAR, 22 BUDGET FOR THIS, UH, THAT IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT APD HAS BEEN SPENDING THE LAST FEW YEARS, BECAUSE IT DOES INCLUDE SIGNIFICANT STARTUP COSTS, UNIFORMS, EQUIPMENT, CARS, COMPUTERS OF THINGS OF THAT NATURE IN THE LONG RUN.

IT IS SLIGHTLY CHEAPER, BUT THERE'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS FOR THIS.

IT IS.

UM, PRIMARILY I THINK MOST OF THE COST SAVINGS WOULD BE IN THE INCREASED TRAINING THAT APD OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED TO, TO HAVE, UM, FOR THEIR FULL BREADTH OF DUTIES.

HOWEVER, AGAIN, NOT, NOT SIGNIFICANT.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DIFFERENCE.

I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

I HAVE IT.

I JUST DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME.

RAY, DO YOU WANT TO ALSO SPEAK, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE AS WELL.

UM, CAN WE GET FURTHER CLARITY THOUGH? ON MY BUDGET? CAN I, YEAH.

I'M THE LAST NAME? YEAH.

SO WHERE IS THAT BUDGET? IS IT IN THE APD BUDGET OR IN THE MISERABLE COURT BUDGET? BECAUSE THERE APD OR IT'S IN THE MUNICIPAL

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COURT BUDGET.

OKAY.

SO, AND BEYOND THE APD BUDGET, THE, I THINK 14 OFFICERS WERE BEING PAID FOR OUT OF THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

YES.

OKAY.

THAT'S INTERESTING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS? ARE WE READY TO DO THIS HERE OR MAYOR? I HAD A, I HAD A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT THE BUDGET AS WELL.

SO, UM, THANKS FOR THAT RESPONSE.

I THINK WHAT I UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY IS THAT IT IS A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE OF THE STARTUP COSTS, INCLUDING UNIFORMS OVER THE LONG RUN.

IT'S A LITTLE CHEAPER, BUT THE MAIN DIFFERENTIAL IS THE TRAINING PIECE IS THAT, DID I, I WANTED TO BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY THAT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IN COST HAS TO DO WITH THE TRAINING CURRICULUM FOR APD OFFICERS, BUT I DIDN'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT REMARK.

SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF FACTORS INVOLVED.

TRAINING IS ONE, OVERTIME IS ANOTHER, UM, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT COULD LIKELY BE ELIMINATED IN TERMS OF OVERTIME.

APD IS HAVING TO USE THAT, UTILIZE THAT A LOT RIGHT NOW TO FUND THE PROGRAM.

THESE WOULD BE FULL-TIME POSITIONS DEDICATED TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT WITH VERY LITTLE OVERTIME INVOLVED.

AND AGAIN, THE TRAINING IS LESS EXTENSIVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND AGAIN, RAY ARI, I KNOW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH MUNICIPAL COURT TO BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD.

AND BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, UH, COUNSEL, WE'LL CALL THAT A, YOU APPROVED SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS IN JUNE, 2022, THAT FORM THE BASIS OF THE CITY'S REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVE AND IN PARTICULAR RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 20 0 6, 11 DASH 0 9 6 DIRECTS THE CITY MANAGER IN PART TO EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR REALLOCATING POSITIONS AND ROLES CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT COULD BE MANAGED BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO IT'S THIS LIGHT THAT WE BRING FORTH.

ITEM NUMBER 35, I'LL SAY GENERALLY THAT A MARSHALL PROGRAM MANAGED BY A MUNICIPAL COURT WOULD REPRESENT A MORE EFFICIENT AND SMALLER INVEST INVESTMENT IN FULLY LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS WITH THE SPECIALIZED TRAINING, UH, TO OPERATE IN A COURT, UH, CORPORATE ENVIRONMENT AS COMPARED WITH THE BREADTH OF TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED, UH, OF APD OFFICERS, UH, WHICH IS WHAT THE MARY JANE ROB HAD MENTIONED AS WELL.

I MEAN, I THINK PART OF THE FOCUS THAT WE HEARD CERTAINLY FROM, UM, UH, WE MENTIONED PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, ADVOCATES AND SO FORTH THAT THE TASK FORCE CERTAINLY WAS TO TRY TO FOCUS ON DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES, UH, WHENEVER POSSIBLE.

AND THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE A FOCUS, UH, OF A MARSHALL PROGRAM, UH, DEVELOPED, UH, UNDER THE MUNICIPAL COURT, CERTAINLY WANTING TO ADDRESS THAT.

UH, IT'S ALWAYS DAUNTING WHEN WE'RE STARTING UP A NEW PROGRAM AND WE WILL, APD WILL BE RIGHT THERE AGAIN, PROVIDING SECURITY SERVICES ALONG THIS PATH, AS WELL AS PROVIDING ADVICE, I THINK, UH, IN TERMS OF TRAINING, UH, THAT HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED THAT I DON'T THINK IT, IT HADN'T OCCURRED TO ME THAT THEY WOULD BE, UM, INCLUDED IN APDS TRAINING ACADEMY.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MARY JANE HAD MENTIONED IS IN TERMS OF THE TRAINING, UH, THAT, UH, MARSHALS WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO GET THE FULL BREADTH OF TRAINING THAT WE REQUIRE CURRENTLY, UH, OUR RIPD OFFICERS.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE A TIME SAVINGS.

CERTAINLY THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET THE TRAINING THAT WOULD MAKE THEM A CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICER UNDER, UH, TEXAS STATUTE TIKAL.

UM, AND IN TERMS OF, UH, AND SO MAY, OR YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF THESE PEACE OFFICERS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE FOR ARSON INVESTIGATORS WITHIN AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UH, LET'S SEE, THERE WAS A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, HEARING THIS ITEM.

WE DID, UH, FIRST, BOTH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE CHAIR, AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, UH, CHAIR.

AND IN THE CASE OF PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, THEY DEFERRED, UH, HEARING THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AND WE DID GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO, AS YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT, TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION, TRYING TO SEE WHAT OTHER QUESTIONS OCCUR TO ME AT THIS MOMENT.

LET ME GO AHEAD AND PAUSE THERE AND SEE WHAT QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

WAS THERE AN ITEM ON THIS RAY IN THE BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED? SO AS I'M UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS AN ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED TO FORM THE, UH, MARSHALL PROGRAM UNDER THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

UH, AND YES, IT'S PERHAPS EITHER A LOT DEPARTMENT OR ADD DINING.

OUR CFO CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC.

WHO'S KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT HB 1900, BUT THIS FUNDING AND RESOURCE WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE HB 1900 FURBY.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I HAVEN'T FOUND IT YET, BUT SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED IN JUNE.

UM, WAS, IS THAT TRUE? I BELIEVE IT IS.

I GUESS, UH,

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MARY JANE COULD PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT, THAT IT'S IT'S IN THERE, BUT IT, SO THE DOLLARS WERE APPROVED IN THE BUDGET TO STAND UP THE MARSHALL PROGRAM FOR SECURITY.

OKAY.

SO AS YOUR QUESTION, THIS IS IN FRONT OF US NOW BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR THIS TO COME TO US NOW.

I THINK IT'S THE SIMPLE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

YES.

FROM BOTH THE BUDGET PERSPECTIVE AND THE, UH, RESOLUTION BACK IN JUNE.

OKAY.

SO AM I SENT THIS AND I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS A BIG DECISION.

IT'S A IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ASKED FOR, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT BACK TO US.

UM, IF OUR MARSHALL PROGRAM, IF WE WERE TO HAVE ONE IS DIFFERENT, AS THE CITING JUDGE TELLS US IN AUSTIN AND NEEDS TO BE DIFFERENT, I THINK FLESHING THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS.

WHAT IS THE SCOPE OR SCALE PART OF WHAT COUNTS REMEMBER KITCHEN WAS TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WE AUTHORIZE IT? CAN WE HAVE A BETTER FEEL FOR WHAT IT IS IF WE DID THIS, HOW TO DESCRIBE THIS REAL SPECIFICALLY, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENT TRAINING? WHAT IS THE TRAINING ASSOCIATED? WHAT IS THEIR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY? WHAT THINGS WILL THEY DO WITH THINGS? WILL WE BE SAYING SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING THAT? I THINK FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, UM, I'M VERY MUCH OPEN TO DOING THIS.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE QUITE READY TO DO THIS AS COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO SAID ON THURSDAY FOR US TO ACT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE THAN THAT.

UM, BUT IF IT ENABLES US TO GET 12 MORE OFFICERS ON PATROL UNDER THE EXISTING, UH, KIND OF APD STRUCTURE THEN, AND THEN, THEN I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A REASON TO TAKE THE OFFICERS OUT OF THERE.

IF THEY'RE, IF THAT'S NOT CORE TO THE CRIME FIGHTING FUNCTION THAT WE ASK APD TO DO SO LONG AS THEY'RE NOT ASSOCIATED NEGATIVES WITH THAT, WHICH I THINK IS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE HEARD, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE SETTING UP A PROGRAM THAT WOULD CREATE THOSE CONCERNS, BUT I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN YOU GUYS BEING INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS SO THAT YOU'RE NOT COMING UP TO US AND SAYING, THIS IS NOT OUR CHOICE.

I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WAS CRAFTED THAT YOU SAID, THIS IS OUR CHOICE AND SERVES US WELL.

SO I WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THE TIMELINE AND THE PROCESS.

THE PROCESS IS ONCE THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE, ESTABLISH, ESTABLISHING AUTHORITY FOR THE OFFICE, FOR THE PERSONAL OFFICE.

AFTER THAT, THEN WE WOULD THEN APPLY FOR AN AGENCY WITH T COLE AND THE DPS AND CONCURRENTLY START RECRUITING FOR A CHIEF MARSHAL POSITION TO DO THAT.

UM, AND THEN GET A CHIEF MARSHALL ONBOARDED.

THAT PERSON WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REALLY SETTING UP THE PROGRAM, DEVELOPING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, UM, AND THEN HIRING THE DEPUTIES.

AND THEN ONCE THE DEPUTIES ARE HIRED THAN THAT, THAT YOU HAVE PURCHASE UNIFORMS AND EQUIPMENTS, THEY CARS TAKE A REALLY LONG TIME.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GETTING TO THE 18, POSSIBLY LONGER MONTHS FOR THIS PROGRAM.

AND I FULLY AGREE WITH HAVING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO DEVELOP THE POLICIES FOR THE PROGRAM, BUT I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AND I MEAN, HONESTLY, I THINK IT'S REQUIRED.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CHIEF, AN AGENCY.

YOU NEED TO HAVE A CHIEF MARSHALL ON BOARD TO BE A PART OF THAT PROGRAM.

THAT PERSON NEEDS TO BE IN ON THE GROUND LEVEL, DEVELOPING IT, FIRST OF ALL, FOR BUY-IN AND TO PROVIDE INPUT.

AND WE CAN'T HIRE A CHIEF MARSHALL WITHOUT AN AGENCY, AND WE CAN'T HAVE AN AGENCY WITHOUT THE COUNCIL APPROVING THAT.

SO, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THE APPEARANCE AND THE PERCEPTION.

THAT'S KIND OF THE HORSE FOR THE CART, BUT THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO BEFORE WE CAN EVEN HIRE A CHIEF MARSHALL.

AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY INSTRUMENTAL GUYS.

WE'RE POOLING, THAT'S REMEMBER KITCHEN.

SO THIS REMINDS ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING OVER, UM, ON THE CAPITAL METRO BOARD, UM, AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A SPECIFIC, UM, CORE THAT HAS TRAINING IN THE DETAILS AND IS FAMILIAR WITH TRANSIT ORIENTED OPERATIONS AND PROVIDING SAFETY FOR RIDERS ON THE BUSES AND THE OPERATORS OF THE BUSES.

AND I, AND I THINK IN TERMS OF THE SPECIALTY, UH, THE SPECIAL NATURE OF THE WORK THAT HAPPENS AT OUR COURTS.

AND I REMEMBER THE INCIDENT A FEW YEARS AGO, UH, WHERE WE HAD A SHOOTING IN AUSTIN, UH, THAT WAS TARGETING

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ONE OF OUR DISTRICT JUDGES.

AND THAT IS WHY I, UH, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE, UM, THE FOCUS THAT YOU ALL ARE BRINGING TO THIS.

I RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, THIS IS A DIFFICULT CONCEPT FOR SOME TO ACCOMMODATE AND, AND UH, THINK ABOUT, BUT THE FACT IS THIS SORT OF, UH, DISTINCT AND DISCREET, UH, TRAINING, UH, FOR OFFICERS AND DEPUTIES WOULD PROVIDE A LEVEL OF PROTECTION TO OUR COURT WORKERS, TO OUR JUDGES, TO THE COMMUNITY WHO WAS THERE FOR WHAT CAN BE VERY EMOTIONAL, UM, REASONS AND AN OVERALL SENSE OF CIVIL, THE CIVIL, UH, SOCIETY NATURE OF THE JUDICIAL, UM, WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING.

AND, UH, THE VERY REAL IMPERATIVES OF PROTECTING EVERYBODY WHO WALKS THROUGH THOSE DOORS.

AND SO I, UH, I RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULTY OF THE CONVERSATION I AM SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT YOU ARE HOPING TO DO HERE.

NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS A DIRECTION IN OUR BUDGET FROM LAST SUMMER, BUT BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S THE RIGHT, I DO THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE APPROACH, A RIGHT APPROACH.

AND IT TAKES INTO THE CONTEXT OF THE CURRENT, UM, CONSTRUCTS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE LIVING THROUGH AT THIS POINT.

THAT'S OUR KITCHEN.

UH, WELL, I, I HAVE TWO COMMENTS.

SO, UM, THE, THE FIRST COMMENT IS, UH, DISCOS BACK TO I'M.

I'M NOT YET HEARING WHY THIS IS THE APPROACH.

UM, AND WHAT ANALYSIS WAS DONE THAT POINTS TO THIS BEING THE APPROACH, AS OPPOSED TO CONTINUING AS YOU ARE RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M KINDA HEARING IS THAT THE THINKING IS THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO TRAIN OFFICERS WITH LESS, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE FULL TRAINING, IF I, WHAT RAY WAS SAYING, AND I CAN SEE WHERE THAT MIGHT BE SOME VALUE, BUT WE'RE NOT SAVING ANY TIME HERE BECAUSE THE, UM, BECAUSE THE, UM, APD, AS YOU SAID, IT TAKES A WHILE TO SET UP AN OFFICE.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SAYING THAT, THAT THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT APPROACH.

I JUST, HAVEN'T HEARD AN ANALYSIS THAT TELLS ME THAT THIS, SO CITY MANAGER, I'M NOT HEARING AN ANALYSIS, THAT'S TELLING ME THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT APPROACH.

SO THAT'S ONE THING.

THE SECOND THING IS A, IS A SUGGESTION.

UM, IF, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER POOLS THAT THE, THAT LOOKING TO WHAT WAS DONE WITH CAP, METRO CAN BE INFORMATIVE.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID, BECAUSE THE SAME KIND OF QUESTIONS WERE, WERE RAISED BY THE PUBLIC AS WE WERE GOING INTO THAT THEY, THEY PUT IN PLACE, OR WE DID IT'S PART OF CAP METRO.

WE PUT IN PLACE WHAT THE PARAMETERS WERE BEFORE WE CREATED THE OFFICE.

SO OUR, SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE, WE, UM, ALONG WITH OUR ACTION TO CREATE AN OFFICE, WE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE STATED THAT WE WERE GOING TO CREATE A COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE HAD A TIMELINE THAT THAT WOULD BE DONE BY, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT IT'S THE SAME PARAMETERS THAT HAVE TO BE USED.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT THIS, THIS, THE ISSUE THAT YOU RAISE ABOUT HAVING TO CREATE THE OFFICE AND THEN DO THE OPERATIONAL POLICIES THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY ASSURANCE TO THE PUBLIC.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I TRUST THAT, AND I KNOW THAT WE OPERATE DIFFERENTLY WITH OUR MUNICIPAL OFFICE, BUT THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE IN WRITING SOMEWHERE THAT GOAT THAT'S TIED TO THE CREATION OF AN OFFICE LIKE THIS.

UM, AND SO, SO THAT WE CAN ALL BE CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT WOULD BE HAPPENING GOING FORWARD.

AND SO THERE ARE OPTIONS TO DO THAT.

UM, I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT ALL THOSE PARAMETERS OUGHT TO BE, BUT I JUST THINK AT THE POINT THAT THIS COUNCIL, IF, IF THIS COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO FORWARD AND THEN AT WHATEVER POINT THAT DECISION IS MADE, IT OUGHT TO BE DONE WITH VERY SPECIFIC, UH, PARAMETERS, UH, THAT, THAT RESPONDS TO THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC.

BUT MY FIRST QUESTION IS REALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ANALYSIS ABOUT WHY THIS IS THE BEST APPROACH.

I'M OPEN TO IT, CERTAINLY OPEN TO IT.

AND I CAN GUESS WHAT MIGHT BE OF SOME REASONS FOR EFFICIENCIES, BUT I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T SEEN A PIECE OF PAPER.

THAT'S REALLY TELLING ME THAT.

YEAH, I THINK I'M IN EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE.

AND SO, UM, IN LOOKING THROUGH REALLY IN MY FABULOUS STAFF MEMBER, ASHLEY'S LOOKING THROUGH THE Q AND A, WE ALL

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HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS DURING, DURING THE BUDGET Q AND A, THAT ARE RELEVANT, I THINK, TO THE CONVERSATION, BUT STILL LANDS ME IN THE SAME PLACE.

I THINK THAT YOU ARTICULATED COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, THIS MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THE RIGHT APPROACH, IF, SO, IT WILL BE THE RIGHT APPROACH FOR REASONS OTHER THAN, UM, FINANCIAL ONES, BECAUSE THERE, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A COST SAVINGS THERE.

UM, THE OPERATIONAL ISSUE THAT WAS HIGHLIGHTED, AT LEAST IN SOME OF THE BUDGET Q AND A, THAT, THAT WE HAD, OR OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT REALLY GETTING THOSE 12 OFFICERS BACK TO PATROLLING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN QUICKLY AS COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN MENTIONED.

AND SO IT REALLY HAS TO BE ABOUT HOW THEY FUNCTION.

UM, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE THOSE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS TO ASK.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THEY WOULD NOT BE UNDER THE OFFICE OF FELICE OVERSIGHT UNLESS WE, BUT THERE MAY BE A POSSIBILITY OF, OF, UM, MAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, OF MAKING THAT CHANGE.

SO I DO THINK THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED AS THEY, AS THAT FURTHER ANALYSIS HAPPENS.

AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, I KNOW THAT THE SECURITY OFFICERS, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, I IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OUR CONTRACT, IS THAT A LONG-TERM PLAN OR IS THAT JUST A TRANSITIONAL PHASE? BECAUSE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, MOVING AS A CITY.

I HOPE, UM, AS WITH OUR, OUR APPROVED COUNCIL POLICY, WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM HAVING LONG TIME LONG LONG-TERM NEEDS BE MET WITH CONTRACT STAFF.

AND SO THAT TO, YOU KNOW, IF ANY OF OUR SAVINGS ARE, IF THERE ARE ANY SAVINGS, THAT'S A SAVINGS.

THAT'S NOT, UM, THAT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF KIND OF HOW WE WANT TO STAFF OUR CITY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

UH, FIRST, UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION IS WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE 12 OFFICERS THERE.

THERE USED TO BE 13 OFFICERS.

APD HAS ALREADY ALLIED REALLOCATED, I THINK SEVEN TO EIGHT OF THEM RIGHT NOW.

I THINK WE ONLY HAVE SEVEN BETWEEN THE TWO COURTS THAT'S BEEN POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE THE MAJORITY OF OUR DOCKETS ONLINE AND HAVE HAD REDUCED HOURS.

ALL OF THAT IS INCREASING ON DECEMBER 6TH, BUT AS A STOP GAP, WE DID, UH, WE DID CONTRACT WITH A PRIVATE SECURITY VENDOR.

THAT CONTRACT IS ONLY THROUGH NEXT JUNE.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO, UH, THE I'M SORRY, I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE SIREN.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, SO WE, UH, THE CONTRACT SECURITY HAS SOME SUPPLEMENTED THE REDUCTION IN APD RESOURCES AND, BUT IT'S, IT'S TEMPORARY, SO THAT'LL HAVE TO BE RENEWED THE, OKAY, SO THE OFFICERS HAVE GONE FROM 12 SLASH 13 DOWN TO SEVEN ISH.

YOU'RE SUPPLEMENTING WITH CONTRACT SECURITY, THAT'S AN INTERIM MEASURE.

AND THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A DIFFERENT PLAN FOR, UH, BEGINNING IN JUNE TO TAKE YOU THROUGH WHENEVER THE MARSHALS WERE READY TO GET TO WORK.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

AND THEN THE INTENT WOULD BE JUST TO HAVE MARSHALS, NOT CONTRACT SECURITY, SUPPLEMENTING THE MARSHALS.

YES.

THAT'S THE CURRENT PLAN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE ALL THROUGH.

UM, THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR FIRST CHOICE IS AND HOW WE MIGHT DELIVER THAT.

I MEAN, IF WE'RE TALKING 18 MONTHS, WE'LL HAVE AT LEAST 200 CADETS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH SUCCESSFULLY THROUGH THE CLASSES AT THE PACE THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE DOING SOME OF YOUR WORK VIRTUALLY AND HOPEFULLY SOME OF THAT MAY CONTINUE, WHICH DOES IMPACT SOME OF THE LEVEL OF NEED.

UM, I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A BROAD SWITCH IN SOME OF THE CHOICES THAT ARE BEING MADE ABOUT BRINGING FOLKS TO COURT AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS THAT MAY ALSO AFFECT THE OVERALL, UM, BEST USE OF RESOURCES.

SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I'M IN THE SAME PLACE WHERE I WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS THE THING THAT'S MEETING THE NEEDS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED.

AND OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT YOUR FIRST CHOICE.

SO I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR FIRST CHOICE IS AND HAVE, AND, AND THEN ASK THE CITY MANAGER IF WE'VE EXHAUSTED EVERY POSSIBILITY, UM, TO GET TO THAT.

SO OUR FIRST CHOICE WOULD BE TO CONTINUE WITH APD, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE ARE, THIS IS SOMETHING NEW.

UM, AND IT'S A MUCH BIGGER RESPONSIBILITY, UM, THEN, AND HAS BEEN OUR ROLE IN THE PAST.

SO THIS IS, UM, THE EASIER ROUTE WOULD BE IF WE COULD KEEP THE APD OFFICERS WHO WERE ALREADY ACCUSTOMED TO COURT.

UM, I THINK MR. ARIANO CAN SPEAK TO THE PROCESS, UM, AND THE ANALYSIS THAT WENT ON AND THE, THE DETERMINATION THAT, UM, THE MARSHALL PROGRAM WAS THE BEST ROUTE TO GET.

THANK YOU, JUDGE THAT, MAN.

AND I'LL JUST SAY BRIEFLY, A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT REALLY THIS, THE

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ANALYSIS.

AND I KNOW THAT I'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, AS WELL AS IN TERMS OF ANALYSIS.

I THINK THE ANALYSIS, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT THE COST FACTORS ARE AND SO FORTH.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE ANALYSIS WAS AS SIMPLE AS SOME OF THE DECISIONS WE MADE AROUND SOMEWHAT SIMILARLY ARC PATROL.

AND SO THERE'S AN AREA WHERE WE BELIEVED THAT, UH, THE FULL BREADTH OF LAW ENFORCEMENT CAPABILITIES THAT APD HAS IS BETTER SUITED IN PATROL FUNCTIONS AND PATROL CERTAINLY CAN BE AVAILABLE TO RESPOND TO PARK INCIDENTS REALLY BY BEEFING UP THE PARK RANGERS, A PROGRAM WHO ARE MORE BENNETT IN AND INFORMED IN TERMS OF OUR PROGRAMS AND SO FORTH WAS A BETTER RESPONSE AND CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL DIRECTION.

0 9, 6 BACK IN JUNE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I'LL, I'LL ADMIT CERTAINLY THAT WE'RE TRADING OFF.

IF YOU WILL CERTIFY PEACE OFFICERS, APD OFFICERS FOR, UM, PEACE OF MARTIAL PROGRAM, WHICH ARE ALSO CERTIFIED PEACE OFFICER CENTERS, XS, STATE, UM, STATUTE.

I'M CERTAINLY GLAD TO, YOU KNOW, AND, AND ABD WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SECURITY SERVICES AND WE'LL RAMP UP AS THE NEED, UH, AS, UH, COMES BACK INTO THE COURTS AND AS THE, AS THE JUDGES, UH, DESCRIBING.

BUT AGAIN, THIS REPRESENTS OUR BEST, UH, RECOMMENDATION AT THIS TIME, GIVEN COUNCIL DIRECTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ONE MORE PIECE OF, I MADE SURE, RIGHT, YOU DIDN'T SPEAK TO THIS, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT WE CONDUCTED NATIONWIDE AND STATEWIDE RESEARCH IS, UM, OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND HOW THEY HANDLED COURT SECURITY.

AND, UM, THERE WAS THIS KIND OF A MIXED BAG, BUT I MEAN, MOST OF THEM ARE USING A HYBRID APPROACH OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PRIVATE SECURITY.

SO THIS IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.

SO I'M, I'M JUST, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE THING THAT WAS ADDED ON THE END, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF COUNCIL DIRECTION, BECAUSE I'M STILL, I'M STILL STRUGGLING WITH HOW, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE TIMEFRAME THAT THIS IS GOING TO TAKE HOW THIS SOLVES THE PROBLEM.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO 250 OFFICERS, YOU KNOW, GRADUATE BY THEN, UM, FRIENDS THAT THERE'LL BE SOME RETIREMENTS, ET CETERA, BUT IT'S JUST, I'M JUST SORT OF STRUGGLING WITH, UM, OUT KNOWING HOW MUCH TRAINING THEY NEED TO DO THIS ROLE RELATIVE TO ELSEWHERE.

UM, THE EMPHASIS THAT WE'RE PLACING ON DEESCALATION AND KNOWING THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, I JUST, I, I NEED TO, I NEED TO SEE SOME, SOME FURTHER ANALYSIS THAT PROVIDES GREATER CLARITY THAT WE HAVE THE GUARD RAILS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEKING ELSEWHERE.

SO AGAIN, AS I SPOKE SAID, I'M OPEN IF WE CAN GET IT RIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE THE RIGHT CHOICE WITH THE APPROPRIATE, UM, GUARDRAILS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD TO, TO ACHIEVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND ABSENT A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE SECURITY CHALLENGES THAT ARE WITHIN OUR COURT.

UM, YOU SHARED A LOT IN YOUR MEMO ABOUT SORT OF NATIONAL TRENDS.

IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING TO KNOW WHAT IS THE RIGHT SOLUTION AND HOW MUCH, UM, IS PRECLUDED BY JUST THE APD STAFFING SITUATION.

OKAY.

I KNOW WE'VE BEEN ON THIS TOPIC FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I JUST HAD A POSITION OUT THERE FOR THE DIET SCORES THURSDAY, FOR REASONS THAT WERE MOST RECENTLY ARE ARTICULATED HERE BY COUNCIL MEMBER, ALTERED KITCHEN AND OTHERS, NOT READY TO APPROVE THIS 30 DAY.

I THINK THERE'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION HERE TODAY, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT BETWEEN TWO AND THREE.

SO THAT'S MY SENSE ON THIS TOO.

I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS COME BACK AND I THINK THAT IT COULD COME BACK TO US, UH, YOU KNOW, PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT SOME KIND OF STATEMENT THAT BETTER EXPLAINED WHAT THE GUARDRAILS WERE, WHAT EXACTLY WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITIES, WHAT WILL SPECIFICALLY NOT BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS.

IT'S HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST HOUSE BILL $1,900.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE DOLLARS ARE ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET.

THEN THERE'S A BUDGET LINE ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THIS IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT BUDGET.

UH, WHAT IS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WAS IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT BUDGET? I MEAN, TO BETTER UNDERSTAND, I DON'T HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION NOW, BUT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND

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WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW, PAYING FOR APD PAYING FOR THE SECURITY, I GUESS THAT'S HAPPENING.

WE ALSO HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR MARSHALL'S.

DOES ONE OF THOSE GO AWAY? IF WE IMPLEMENT THE MARSHALS, DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT ONCE APD IS ABLE TO REMOVE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT, I MEAN, THAT WOULD JUST, IT STAYS IN THEIR BEDROOM.

I MEAN, IT'S IN THEIR BUDGET NOW.

SO THAT WOULD BE AN APD QUESTION ON HOW THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE UTILIZED.

AND THEY ARE, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS AGAIN, WE WOULD BE, THEN WE ALLOCATE THOSE OFFICERS TO PATROL.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CERTAINLY, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A RAMP UP PERIOD WHEN YOU'RE TRANSITIONING FROM ONE PROGRAM TO ANOTHER.

AND IT'S PARTICULAR CASE.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ALLOCATE APD RESOURCES TO THE FULL BREADTH OF, UH, ASSIGNMENTS THAT THEY CAN DO, AND THEN CREATE THIS SEPARATE PROGRAM THAT IS MUCH MORE FOCUSED, A MUCH WIDER.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER POOL WAS SAYING WITH REGARD TO CAP.

METRO IS, UM, SECURITY SO CHEAP NOW.

AND THAT PART, I UNDERSTOOD.

I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE MECHANISM IS OF MOVING THOSE OFFICERS OUT OF THE COURT AND BACK INTO PATROL AND WHAT THAT IMPACT IS ON HOUSE BILL 1900, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE COST OF THOSE OFFICERS, I THINK, IS BEING CHARGED TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT BUDGET.

AS THE ARSON INVESTIGATORS ARE BEING CHARGED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BUDGET.

IF WE TAKE THE OFFICERS, APD OFFICERS THAT ARE THERE, AND WE BRING THEM BACK INTO THE APD BUDGET TO BE DOING PATROL, THEN IT'S GOING TO MOVE THOSE OFFICERS OVER.

THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN AN INCREASED SPENDING FOR APD, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF FUNDED UNFILLED POSITIONS.

SO I IMAGINE THAT WAS 12 OR 13 FTES THAT ARE SWORN OFFICERS THAT ARE IN THE MUNICIPAL BUDGET WOULD MOVE OVER TO APD WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN APT BUDGET.

THAT'S MY ASSUMPTION COULD BE RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY HOUSE BILL 19 IMPACTS BY MOVING THOSE OFFICERS OVER.

I'D HAVE CONFIRMATION OF THAT.

AND THAT'S HOW THAT MIGHT BE HANDLED.

YEAH.

ADD, ARE YOU HERE? WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE YOU A CONFIRMATION ON THAT MAYOR.

UM, THESE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN BACK CHARGED TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT.

WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS WE DID PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE, UM, FOR THE MARSHALL PROGRAM, $1.3 MILLION.

SO WHAT I NEED TO VERIFY IS DID WE REMOVE THAT BACK CHARGE ALREADY AS PART OF THE FY 22 BUDGET? UM, IF WE DID, THERE WOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE IN REGARDS TO HOUSE BILL 19, IF WE DIDN'T AND WE WERE TO REMOVE IT AFTER THE MARSHALL PROGRAM IS STOOD UP, IT WOULD HAVE THE EFFECT OF INCREASING APDS BUDGET, BUT WE CAN, WE CAN CONFIRM THAT IN SHORT ORDER.

OKAY.

AND IF, EVEN IF IT, IF IT DIDN'T, COULDN'T THESE 12 OFFICERS BE MOVED TO THE ALREADY FUNDED, BUT UNFILLED POSITIONS IN APD.

YEAH.

WE COULD MAKE THAT WORK.

I MEAN, SO, SO, SO THERE'S A MECHANISM TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS WITHOUT A 1900 IMPACTED.

I WOULD JUST LIKE US TO LOOK AT THAT, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT, THAT, THAT I'VE HEARD.

UM, BUT I THINK IF YOU COULD, COULD GIVE US A BETTER FEEL FOR THE GUARDRAILS ON THIS AND DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THEY DO OR DON'T HAVE TO, UH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO I GUESS, REMEMBER KELLY.

YEAH.

I'LL JUST NOTE THAT, THAT DOESN'T THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING NOW ABOUT WHERE THOSE COSTS CAME FROM, DOES NOT ACCORD WITH THE INFORMATION I GOT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, UNLESS I'M REALLY HAVING TROUBLE ALIGNING THOSE.

SO WHO IS PAYING THE COST OF THOSE APD OFFICERS, I THINK IS, IS THE FIRST QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED.

WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUDGET QUESTIONS AND ALIGN IT WITH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME ON THE DIOCESE TODAY AND GET YOU, UH, ANSWERS.

OKAY GUYS, R KELLY.

UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THESE OFFICERS BACK ON PATROL, THAT THEY MIGHT APPLY TO WORK FOR YOUR PROGRAM BECAUSE A LOT OF THE SIMILARITIES INTO THE TOOL ROLE ROLES ARE THERE.

AND SO WHAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE HAPPEN IS US LOSE ADDITIONAL APD OFFICERS BY TRYING TO FILL THIS ROLE IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TAILLIGHT THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ALTER.

SO AS PART OF THE FOLLOW-UP, UM, THESE WERE RAISED EARLIER, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IF THESE OFFICERS WOULD BE, UM, UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE OFFICE OF POLICE OVERSIGHT AND KIND OF WHAT THE TRANSPARENCIES, WE ALSO ARE GOING TO BE NEGOTIATING A CONTRACT WITH THE APD APA, UM, NEXT YEAR.

AND SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THIS INTERFACES POTENTIALLY WITH THAT.

UM, AND AGAIN, I JUST, I'M STILL WONDERING WHETHER THE RESOURCES TO SET THIS UP MIGHT BE UTILIZED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ACADEMY

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TRAINING FACILITIES ARE ABLE TO PROCESS AS MANY OFFICERS AS WE NEED THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

UM, CAUSE IT SEEMS VERY INVOLVED FOR 12 OFFICERS, WHEREAS THOSE RESOURCES COULD BE PUT INTO IN TERMS OF STAFF TIME AND ENERGY, UM, COULD BE PUT INTO THE ACADEMY REVAMP AND THE ACADEMY SET UP IN A WAY THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PRODUCE MANY MORE OFFICERS, UM, TO MEET THE NEEDS IN THE CITY OVER TIME, WHICH IS AT SOME LEVEL OF MANAGEMENT CHALLENGE, UM, AND FIGURING OUT, AND, AND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S SOMEWHAT THE SAME PEOPLE TO SOME DEGREE, UM, WHO, WHO ARE INVOLVED.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THIS, UM, THAT IS TRULY NARROWING IT.

AND WE HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE THE TRAINING THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING US WITH RESPECT TO DEESCALATION AND KNOWING THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

I THINK THE COMMUNITY HAS A LOT OF IDEAS, UM, AND IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PAUSE AND, AND AT LEAST LISTEN TO SOME OF THOSE.

AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE ABLE AND WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND WE MIGHT FIND THAT THERE'S SOME CREATIVE, UH, PERMUTATION OF WHAT'S BEFORE US THAT MIGHT GET US TO A BETTER, TO A BETTER PLACE THAT ADDRESSES MORE, MORE OF THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED SECURITY OR AT OUR COURT.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YES.

I THINK JUST ONE LAST QUESTION THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MULL OVER IS IF, IF OUR COURT, IF I UNDERSTOOD YOU CORRECTLY, I THINK YOU WERE SAYING THIS WOULD NOT BE THE ABSOLUTE IDEAL STRUCTURE AND GIVEN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.

I THINK, I THINK WHAT I NEED TO REALLY SORT OUT IS, IS THERE A STRONG ADVOCATE WHO BELIEVES THAT THIS IS THE BEST SOLUTION WE SHOULD CONTINUE ALL OF THESE EXPLORATIONS.

AND TO ME, WHAT I HEARD WAS IT'S NOT THE IDEAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE MORE INVOLVED.

IT HAS CHANGED THE RESPONSIBILITIES AND WE NEED TO CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S APPROPRIATE.

UM, I LIKE AS A GENERAL CONCEPT TO BE TAKING RESPONSIBILITIES AWAY FROM APD THAT ARE NOT NECESSARILY NECESSARY TO, UH, TO A SWORN OFFICER WITH THE TRAINING THAT APD HAS AS WE DO THAT WITH MENTAL HEALTH, AS WE DO THAT WITH PARKS, AS WE DO THAT WITH ETHICS.

SO FOR ME, THE QUESTIONS I ASK IN ESSENCE GO TO THAT POLICY ISSUE, IS THIS A, ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THAT? OKAY.

AND SO, AND, AND SO THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE NODS THAT I'M SEEING HERE AND YOUR COMMENTS, THAT THERE IS STILL AN INTEREST IN EXPLORING WHETHER THERE'S A SYSTEM THAT IS, THAT OFFERS SOME OF THE BENEFITS THAT WE DISCUSSED.

I'M JUST THINK THAT'S A THRESHOLD QUESTION BEFORE WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH, AS THE MAYOR PUT IT, THIS IS, IT'S NOT IDEAL FOR US BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE DONE BEFORE.

AND WE HAVE HAD, UH, THE LUXURY OF VERY COMPETENT, UH, OFFICERS WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH COURT.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT OPTION TO HAVE APD THERE IS THAT'S NOT ON THE TABLE.

SO ALL THE RESEARCH THAT WE HAVE DONE, THIS IS THE BEST OPTION GOING FORWARD.

UM, WITH THIS OPTION, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT DOES HAVE THOSE GUARD RAILS, UM, THAT DOES HAVE SPECIALTY TRAINING AND WE BELIEVE CAN BE A MODEL FOR OTHER COURTS.

UM, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK AND, UM, THINGS THAT ARE COURT MANAGEMENT.

WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS BEFORE, SO THERE IS GOING TO BE A LEARNING CURVE.

AND THAT'S, I WOULD SAY NOT A, IT'S NOT A PREFERENCE, IT'S, UM, A CONCERN, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE ANXIETY ABOUT MOVING FORWARD, BUT WE CAN DO IT AND WE WILL DO IT.

AND WE HAVE THE RESEARCH SHOWS THAT THIS IS THE BEST OPTION THAT WE HAVE.

SO I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE ANALYSIS YOU WOULD BE COMING BACK WITH.

IS IT THAT QUESTION, I MEAN, AS A THRESHOLD MATTER, IS THIS CONSISTENT WITH, IS IT, IS THERE A POLICY BASIS TO DO THIS, WHICH I THINK, WHICH I THINK WAYS DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, BECAUSE WE KNOW IT OR DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT DRIVES A POLICY CALL OF TRYING TO GET OUR POLICE TO FOCUS ON FIGHTING CRIME, AS OPPOSED TO OTHER WAYS WE'VE BEEN USING APD.

SO IF YOU COULD BRING THAT BACK TO US, I THINK WE'VE EXHAUSTED THIS TOPIC, UH, PO IS NEXT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

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I JUST, YEAH, I'M REALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MARSHALL PROGRAM.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS BE FACING WITH, UH, OFFICER'S HAND TO BE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE IF THERE ANY, ANY, UH, SITUATION HAPPENING IN TOWN WHERE THEY'RE NEEDED, THEY WILL BE CALLED AND THEY WILL RESPOND.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE, WE NEVER KNOW, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO HAVE A COUPLE MORE, WE ASSIGNED TO PATROL AND, AND NOW THE COMMUNITY CORRIDOR, UH, IS LEFT WITH VERY FEW POLICE OFFICERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, UM, I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGED MY COLLEAGUES TO REALLY MAYBE COME UP WITH, UH, SOME GUARD RAILS, LIKE IT WAS MENTIONED AND PURSUED THE MARSHAL BECAUSE NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY, THERE'LL BE PERMANENTLY ASSIGNED TO THE COURT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK.

UH, BUT I THINK THAT AT THE END WE WILL HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE STAFF THAT REALLY KNOWS THEIR JOB AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT THAT'S NEEDED.

AND WE COULD RETRAIN THESE, UH, OFFICERS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THEY RESPOND TO THAT SITUATION.

GUYS NEEDED HE'D COURTROOMS AND NOT WAS NEEDED UP IN, UH, IN ANOTHER SITUATION IN THE CITY.

SO, ALL RIGHT.

I, I LIKED THE IDEA OF HAVING THE MARSHALL PROGRAM WITH ALL THE SAFEGUARDS, AND I THINK THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.

THANK YOU, CATS.

REMEMBER KITCHEN, UH, JUST, JUST WANTED TO ADD AS PART OF, UM, THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE REQUESTED.

I JUST WANT CLARIFICATION ON WHY APD IS OFF THE TABLE.

AGAIN, I CAN, I CAN GUESS FROM THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, BUT JUST ADDING THAT CLARIFICATION WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OKAY.

MANAGERS, HAVE YOU, OKAY.

THERE WAS THIS, AND AGAIN, OPEN, OPEN UP THE OPTION FOR FOLKS TO PROVIDE THAT FEEDBACK.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE IDEAS THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS OR FROM, FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON THOSE GUARDRAILS OR PARAMETERS THAT PLEASE PASS IT ON TO STAFF.

SO WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR RESPONSE.

OKAY.

THAT SAID, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE'LL POSTPONE THIS ITEM ON THURSDAY, SO IT'S NOT CONSIDERED ON THURSDAY, BUT BRING IT BACK JUST AS RAPIDLY IS, IS, IS YOU THINK YOU CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RIGHT.

THANK YOU AS WELL.

UM, COLLEAGUES, UM, UH, AND, AND TO THE CLERK, UH, TO RELATIVE TO OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A CHANGE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE CHANGE FOR NEXT WEEK.

UH, BUT, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, IF IT WORKS TO, TO DO, UH, UH, THE CHANGES FOR SIGNUPS IN DECEMBER, DO THAT MYRNA.

IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, THEN JUST LET US KNOW, MAYBE.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO, TO DO THE IMPOSSIBLE HERE.

SO YOU TELL US WHEN THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT IS HAD, THERE WAS ALSO A SUGGESTED AS WE BRING BACK MUSIC THAT, THAT MORE PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE THE MUSIC IF WE DID IT DURING THE LUNCH BREAK, AS OPPOSED TO OVER THE EVENING BREAK.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'D BE ANY INTEREST, UH, ON THE DAY AS IN MOVING MUSIC TO THAT, THAT LUNCH BREAK AND TRYING THAT TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS.

UM, THAT MIGHT, MIGHT ACTUALLY BE SOMETHING THAT'S, IT SAVES US TIME DURING THE DAY.

IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE SEEN BY MORE PEOPLE.

SO WITHOUT OBJECTION, I WOULD SAY TO THE CLERK, LET'S TRY THAT.

THAT'LL ALSO FORCE US TO TAKE A LUNCH BREAK.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH,

[D2. Winter Storm Uri]

MANAGER, COULD YOU START US ON THE STORM DISCUSSION? SURE.

OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AND AS YOU KNOW, EARLIER THIS MONTH, WE RECEIVED THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS ON WINTER STORM URI.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A STATEWIDE, CATASTROPHIC EVENTS, UH, LAYERED ON TOP OF AN ALREADY HISTORIC GLOBAL PANDEMIC.

UH, BUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN, AS WE NOTED, LIKE THE STATE OF TEXAS WAS UNPREPARED FOR SUCH A COMPLEX, COMPLEX DISASTER.

YOU HEARD FROM BOTH OUR, UM, CONSULTANTS THAT, UH, DID THE AFTER ACTION REPORT WORKING WITH STAFF AND STAKEHOLDERS.

UH, AND YOU ALSO HEARD FROM AUSTIN ENERGY AND AUSTIN WATER TODAY, I DID WANT TO OPEN UP WITH HAVING, UH, BOTH, UH, ONE, OUR TEAS ARE DIRECTOR OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND, UM, OUR GENERAL MANAGER FOR AUSTIN ENERGY, UH, AS WELL AS OUR DIRECTOR FOR AUSTIN WATER, HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE KEY AREAS THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN, UH, AND THAT WE WILL BE ASKING, UH, THAT WE ARE ASKING OUR STAFF TO DO SO WE KNOW THAT IF A STORM WERE TO HAPPEN TODAY, THAT WE WOULD

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BE BETTER PREPARED THAN WE WERE, UH, LAST FEBRUARY.

I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PLACE TO START.

UH, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS JUST AS PREPARED, UH, FOR THAT EVENT, UM, AS OUR STAFF COMES IN AND I SEE JUAN COMING INTO THE CHAMBERS RIGHT NOW, UH, I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE ALL THE SIGNIFICANT WORK THAT WENT ON DURING THE STORM, BY NOT ONLY OUR, OUR, OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, UM, BUT ALSO OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THIS WAS A COMMUNITY RESPONSE THAT WE NEEDED TO TAKE.

AND WE HAD SO MANY INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATIONS STEP UP TO THE PLATE TO HELP US DO THAT RESPONSE.

WE WILL NEED THE NEXT EVENT, AS WE KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE MORE EVENTS LIKE THIS, UH, IN THE FUTURE, UH, TO BE DONE, UH, WITH A BETTER RESPONSE THAN WE HAD FOR WINTER STORM URI.

UH, WE ARE, WE KNOW, UH, AND ARE HOPEFUL, UH, THAT SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN ALREADY, UH, WILL PROVIDE A BETTER RESPONSE THAN WE'VE HAD, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE HOW WE RESPONDED AND HOW WE NEED TO DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE.

UM, BUT TO BEGIN, I'M GOING TO ASK A JUAN, OUR, OUR DIRECTOR OF HOMELAND SECURITY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, JUST TO SUMMARIZE SOME OF THOSE KEY, UH, ACTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN, UH, SINCE THE LAST EVENT AND THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON INTERNALLY, AND THAT WE ALSO ARE ASKING OUR COMMUNITY TO DO, UH, IN THE CASE THAT WE WILL HAVE A WINTER STORM, UH, THIS YEAR, DR.

ORTIZ.

SO IMAGINE THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND TALK TO YOU AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING.

AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE AFTER ACTION ITEMS FROM, WITH THE SUMMARY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I RELATE TO YOU ALL THAT EVEN ONCE THE STORM ENDED AT THE END OF LAST SPRING, UM, PREPAREDNESS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CONDUCTS YEAR-ROUND, UH, WE VERY QUICKLY, WE'RE MOVING TO LOOK AT WHAT PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES MAY NEED TO BE ENGAGING, UH, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE READY FOR THE, UH, THE HAZARDS THAT ARE, THAT ARE GOING IMPACT OR THREATEN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEN THE SUMMER, UH, SPECIFICALLY AS WE WENT INTO THE SUMMER, WE WERE CONCERNED WITH WHAT IF THERE WAS ANOTHER HURRICANE THIS YEAR AND WHAT, WHAT READINESS LEVEL HAS BEEN NEEDED TO BE PREPARED FOR, UH, THE EXTREME HEAT CONDITIONS, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE COOLING CENTERS, UH, UH, ESTABLISH, UH, READY TO GO THAT, SO THOSE FOUR DAYS AND ACTIVITIES REALLY IT'S A YEAR ROUND PROCESS TO WHEN WE LOOK AT PREPAREDNESS, THAT'S BEEN GOING INTO NOW, UH, INTO THE FALL AND SOON HERE INTO THE WINTER SEASON, OUR FOCUS IS SHIFTING.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE AFTER ACTION, IT IS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT OUR FOCUS IS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE READY FOR THIS UPCOMING WINTER WEATHER SEASON.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND WORKING REAL HARD WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COORDINATING AND COMMUNICATING.

AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE, UH, UH, REPORT ON SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES, UM, THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND I MENTIONED SOME OF THESE IN THE LAST PRESENTATION, WE ROLLED OUT A NEW, UH, TOOLS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE WHO ARE DEAF, BLIND AND HARD OF HEARING, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE COMMUNICATIONS ARE ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE NOT STOPPING THERE.

WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE TRANSLATION SERVICES AVAILABLE TO US FOR NOT JUST FROM, WITHIN OUR REGION, BUT ALSO OUTSIDE OF A REGION, BECAUSE IS WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE WINTER STORM WAS THAT THE COMPANIES, SO THE SERVICES THAT WE USE HERE IN OUR REGION, THEY MAY ALSO BE IMPACTED IN FUTURE STORMS, JUST LIKE THEY WERE IMPACTED DURING THIS LAST STORM.

AND THEREFORE WE NEED TO BE, UH, WE NEED TO DIVERSIFY OUR CAPABILITIES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE HELP AVAILABLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, TO, UH, TO MOVE VERY QUICKLY TO MOVE ALONG IN THAT AREA.

WE HAVE ROLLED OUT, UH, OUR, OUR READY CENTRAL TEXAS CAMPAIGN, WHICH IS FOCUSING TO ENSURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESSIBLE INFORMATION.

SO YOU KNOW HOW TO PREPARE, NOT JUST FOR WINTER WEATHER, BUT FOR ALL THE HAZARDS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, EVERY YEAR.

WE'VE ALSO UPGRADED OUR, UH, THE APP THAT WE HAVE, THE READY CENTRAL TEXAS APP THAT ANYBODY CAN DOWNLOAD FROM THE APPLE STORE OR FROM THE ANDROID STORE.

UM, AND THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR FREE, WE'VE ADDED A WINTER WEATHER COMPONENT TO THAT APP SO THAT THEY HAVE SPECIFIC WINTER WEATHER INFORMATION.

AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE, THE COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THIS SERVICE TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, SO THAT WE ALSO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO OTHER, UH, OTHER LANGUAGES AND MAKE THE INFORMATION ACCESSIBLE TO ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

UH, WE'VE RELAYED IN, UH, TRAINING REQUIRED INFORMATIONS TO OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE PREPARED,

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UM, AND ARE LOOKING AT, UM, ENHANCING THE PRESCRIP, UH, MESSAGES IN THAT WOULD BE TRANSLATED IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET AHEAD OF THE GAME AS WE LEARNED THAT THE, THIS INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE, UH, VERY QUICKLY TRANSLATED AND MADE AVAILABLE IN FUTURE, UH, INCIDENTS, AS YOU KNOW, UH, AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, UH, COUNSEL, UH, UH, APPROVED FUNDING FOR RESILIENCY HUB PROJECT.

AND I CAN SAY THAT THAT WORK CONTINUES THAT THAT INITIATIVE HAS, UH, AS IS UNDERWAY, UH, UH, DURING THE PUBLIC HEALTH SUBCOMMITTEE, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A REPORT PROVIDED ON THE STATUS OF THAT.

AND THAT'S, UH, AND THAT'S A WORK GROUP THAT, THAT JUST INCLUDES THE CITY INCLUDES AUSTIN INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT IN TRAVIS COUNTY.

AND WE'RE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST, ROBUST GROUP TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ESTABLISH THESE RESILIENCY, HELPED IN OUR COMMUNITY, SUPPORT THEM IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OR DISASTER IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT WORK CONTINUES.

UH, AGAIN, UM, AS WE GO INTO THE WINTER WEATHER SEASON, WE HAVE DONE SOME COMMUNICATIONS TO OUR PARTNERS AND OUR, IN OUR DEPARTMENTS TO ENSURE THAT FOLKS ARE PR ARE PREPARING, WE'VE COMMUNICATED WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOKED AT WHAT WE SEE AS A POTENTIAL PROBLEM.

AND WHAT WE SEE IS THE RESILIENCE, EXCUSE ME, A SUPPLY CHAIN MANAGEMENT ISSUE THAT IS FACING OUR COUNTRY.

AND SO COMMUNICATIONS HAS ALREADY GONE OUT ASKING DEPARTMENTS TO EVALUATE THEIR CONTRACTS, EVALUATE THEIR SUPPLIES, AND ALSO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE AMPLE SUPPLIES ON HAND OR, UH, FOR SERVICES AS WELL AS FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE OPERATIONS AND TO ORDER SUPPLIES EARLY SO THAT WE ARE NOT AWAITING FOR THOSE IN THE MIDDLE OF A DISASTER BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE SUPPLY TO MANAGEMENT WILL CREATE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT TOMORROW, WE HAVE OUR WINTER WEATHER SEMINAR, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, WHERE WE BROUGHT, WE'RE BRINGING IN ALL OUR CITY AND COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO GO THROUGH WINTER WEATHER PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES AND SHARE INFORMATION AND KIND OF, KIND OF REVIEW THE PLAN WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT IS A PROPER PROTOCOL? HOW, HOW DID THE S THE STREETS GET SANDED? WHAT, UH, WHO HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO SANDY, THE SIDEWALKS, WHAT TO DO, WHAT NOT TO DO, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE IN HAND, AS WE PREPARE FOR THE WINTER WEATHER SEASON.

AND THAT IS A, THAT IS AN EVENT THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW.

WE'LL BE COMMUNICATING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT THAT.

AND I EXPECT FULL ATTENDANCE FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, UH, FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AS WELL.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE OUR, OUR MONTHLY MEETING WITH OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SINGLE POINTS OF CONTACT.

WE ARE MEETING WITH THEM ON THURSDAY, AND WE MEET WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT WE GO THROUGH THE LIST OF ITEMS THAT WE NEED TO BE WORKING TO PREPARE.

UH, AND SOME OF THESE, UH, PREPAREDNESS ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING ARE SOME OF THE SAME BUSINESS ACTIVITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE AFTER ACTION REPORT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

AGAIN, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATED INVENTORY OF FACILITIES THAT CAN BE USED FOR SHELTERS AND THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR THE STORM.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, AND PRE DEPLOY.

AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PREDEPLOYMENT THE SHELTER SUPPLIES TO GO TO EACH ONE OF THOSE SHELTER LOCATIONS WE ARE IDENTIFYING, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO LOOK AT WHAT THOSE CAPABILITIES ARE.

IN FACT, YESTERDAY, I HAD MEETINGS BOTH WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OF CENTRAL TEXAS, AS WELL AS THE AUSTIN DISASTER RELIEF NETWORK.

AND WE HAVE THIS, YOU KNOW, MEETINGS WITH OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

SO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REVIEWING THE ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, LOOKING AT THE IMPACTS FROM THE PANDEMIC AND, AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE BENEFITS NOW THAT WE HAVE HAD ALMOST A YEAR OF VACCINATIONS ALREADY UNDERWAY AND LOOKING AT WHAT, UH, WHAT ADDITIONAL CAPABILITIES THESE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES WILL BE ABLE TO, UH, PUT ON THE TABLE TO ENSURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS PREPARED AND ABLE TO RESPOND AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE TOOK THESE 132 RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE AFTER ACTION REPORT.

AND WE GOT WITH OUR TEAM THAT IS WORKING ON, ON TO ANY CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS, UH, PLAN MIGRATION.

WE ARE, UH, WE'VE ASKED ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO UPDATE THEIR COOP PLANS, BUT WE'RE ALSO IN THE PROCESS.

WE'RE IN THE SECOND PHASE OF MIGRATING THOSE PLANTS INTO A COOP MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS, SO THAT THOSE CAN BE MORE READILY ACCESSIBLE.

AND WE ABLE TO EVALUATE THEM IN A MUCH FASTER MANNER.

UM, WE TOOK THAT, UH, WE, WE ASKED THIS SAME GROUP TO KIND OF LOOK AT THESE 132

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RECOMMENDATIONS AND LOOK AT, UH, WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE, UH, THE HIGHEST IMPACT ON LIVE SAFETY AND HEALTH AND LOOK AT WHAT IS THE, UH, WHICH ONES ARE THE ONES THAT WE CAN, UH, PUT IN PLAY, UH, IN, IN A FAST MANNER AND FOCUS ON THE AFTER ACTION PRIORITIES.

AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED 32 OF THOSE AFTER ACCIDENTS THAT WE'RE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT THE, THE WORK IS THAT CONTINUES AND VERY QUICKLY, UH, ARE, ARE ADDRESSED.

LET ME SAY, WE'RE WORKING ON ALL 132, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON THOSE THAT HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT ARE PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS LIVES AND HEALTH, AND MAKING SURE THAT IT MAKES US A MORE RESILIENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO IT DOES ACT THAT IS ACTION THAT IS, UM, ALREADY HAS HAPPENED IN THAT WE'RE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, AS IT WAS REPORTED, UM, THERE ARE SOME ENHANCEMENTS THAT AUSTIN ENERGY REPORTED, UH, UH, LAST TIME, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH, UH, AUSTIN 3, 1, 1 OFFICES, UH, TO LOOK AT THOSE CRITICAL LOAD CUSTOMERS TO SAFEGUARD AGAINST POWER OUTAGES FROM, UH, LOAD SHED EVENTS.

UH, AND THERE WERE OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT WERE REPORTED BY, UH, AUSTIN ENERGY, AS WELL AS AUSTIN WATER.

UM, AND AGAIN, AUSTIN WATER, UM, YOU KNOW, GREG MEMORIAL, UH, I THINK DID A GREAT JOB AT EXPLAINING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING MAKING, UH, AND THE KEY PART HERE IS THAT WE, AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO BECOME MORE AWARE OF OUR, OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR HOMES, AS FAR AS HOW DOES, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW TO SAFEGUARD OUR HOME AND HOW TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS, UH, WATER, UH, THAT'S COMING INTO YOUR HOME, IDENTIFY YOUR SHUT OFF VALVE, UH, IDENTIFY THOSE, UH, CRITICAL AREAS TO PROTECT THEIR HOME, NOT JUST FROM POWER AND WATER, BUT LOOK, KAT, UM, BECOMES MORE, UM, UH, HELP US HELP OUR CITIZENS BECOME MORE ENGAGED AND WHAT THINGS THAT CAN DO THAT, UH, WE'LL PROTECT THEM AS WELL AS ENSURE THAT THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, UH, UM, ARE AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THE, THE, THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS THE, THE EXAMPLE THAT GREG TALKED ABOUT, HOW DO YOU DRIP A FAUCET, RIGHT? AND, AND I THINK THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF YOU DON'T NEED TO DRIP ALL THE FAUCETS.

YOU NEED TO JUST DRIP ONE AND RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT IF EVERYBODY JUST, THAT DOES THAT, THEN THERE'S A WAY OF HOW WE CAN ENSURE THAT OUR, OUR WATER AVAILABILITY IS, IS, IS MORE ROBUST FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, LET ME TELL YOU, SOME OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE REPORTING BACK TO ME THAT THEY'RE CONDUCTING IN TUNA REVIEWS OF THEIR WINTER STORM PROCEDURES.

UM, THEY, OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALREADY CONDUCTED, UH, UM, INTERNAL TABLETOP EXERCISES.

AND SOME OF THEM ARE, ARE, ARE GOING TO BE CONDUCTING THEM HERE IN THE NEXT COMING DAYS, COMING WEEKS, UM, WITH A FOCUS OF HAVING, UH, UH, WINTER PREPAREDNESS, UH, DISCUSS AND, AND LOOKING AT WHAT MEASURES THAT THEY CAN TAKE TO, UH, ENSURE THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY'RE PREPARED.

ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE FLEET SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UH, HAS COMMUNICATED WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND ASKING THEM, AND IS CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY, UH, THE RIGHT LEVEL OF TRAINING THAT DEPARTMENTS NEED TO HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UH, IDENTIFY THE NUMBER OF CHAINS FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHAINS, AND MAKING SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE PERSONNEL THAT ARE TRAINED TO KNOW HOW TO PUT THOSE CHAINS ON, UM, IN THE FIELD AND NOT HAVE TO GO INTO FLEET SERVICES, UH, UM, TO GET THOSE CHAINS, UH, INSTALL.

SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE TRYING TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE IN THE RESPONSE.

THERE'S A WHOLE LIST OF ACTIVITIES THAT NEED TO HAPPEN WHENEVER WE HAVE, UH, A STRONG WINTER FREEZE WARNING, AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN PUSH OUT INTO THE FIELD SO THAT DEPARTMENTS CAN, ARE PREPARED AND CARRY ON SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES, THEN THE BETTER WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER CRITICAL AREAS BY FOR EXAMPLE, ENSURE THAT EVERY GENERATOR THAT WE HAVE OUT IN THE FLEET OUT IN THE FIELD IS PROPERLY, UH, UH, FUELED AND READY TO GO IN THE EVENT OF A POWER OUTAGE.

UH, AND WE HAVE FUEL TRUCKS AVAILABLE TO GO OUT AND TAP THOSE GENERATORS, AS WELL AS LOOK AT THOSE FACILITIES, THEY HAVE PORTABLE WATER TANKERS, MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WATER TANKERS ARE FILLED IN ADVANCE OF THE STORM.

SO IF THERE'S A WATER DISRUPTION THAT WE HAVE, UM, UM, UH, PLENTY OF SUPPLY FOR CARRIERS, UH, DURING THOSE COMING DAYS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO OPEN UP SHELTERS, UH, OPEN UP COLD WEATHER FACILITIES IN THE EVENT OF, OF, OF, UH, OF COLD WEATHER NIGHTS

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AND ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A LOOK AT THOSE MASS CARE NEEDS AND BE ESTABLISHING THE PROCEDURES TO ENSURE THAT IF THERE IS A NEED TO SUPPORT SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER AGENCIES, THAT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE, ARE READY TO GO, UH, TO MAKE THOSE, UH, TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE IN, IN ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE ARE, UH, HAVE BEEN DOING AND ARE CONTINUING TO DO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THIS WINTER WEATHER SEASON, UH, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER HAZARD THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING TO FACE IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR TEAS.

AND I'M JUST GOING TO ASK, UH, BOTH FROM AUSTIN WATER AND AUSTIN ENERGY.

UH, I THINK WE HAVE SYDNEY JACKSON, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE PODIUM AND JUST, OR JACKIE SERGEANT IS GOING TO JUST HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE, UH, THE LAST STORM THAT WE WILL PREPARE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MORE RESILIENT.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY ASKS THAT YOU HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY GOING FORWARD, THANK YOU, SPENCER MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M JACKIE SERGEANT AUSTIN ENERGY, GENERAL MANAGER.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST AND YOUR SUPPORT.

AS WE WORK THROUGH IMPLEMENTING THE FINDINGS OF OUR AFTER ACTION REVIEW, PLEASE BE ASSURED THAT OUR AFTER ACTION REVIEW WAS AN HONEST, CRITICAL ASSESSMENT OF WHAT WORKED WELL AND WHAT NEEDS FOLLOW UP.

AUSTIN ENERGY IMMEDIATELY STARTED IDENTIFYING OBSERVATIONS AND FINDINGS DURING THE WINTER STORMS, THE ERCOT ENERGY EMERGENCY.

AND AFTER ADDITIONALLY, WE INITIATED IMPLEMENTATION OF FINDINGS AS SOON AS PRACTICAL AS MY DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER AND CHIEF OPERATING SIDNEY JACKSON PREVIOUSLY SHARED AND PRESENTED AUSTIN ENERGY IDENTIFIED 19 OBSERVATIONS, AND 112 A FOLLOWUP ACTIONS OF THOSE FINDINGS.

29% HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

50% ARE IN PROGRESS, MEANING THEY ARE WORKING TOWARD A DEFINED, UH, COMPLETION DATE.

AND 21% WILL BE ONGOING, MEANING THAT THEY ARE MEASURES THAT HAVE BEEN, OR WILL BECOME PART OF ONGOING OPERATIONS AT AUSTIN ENERGY.

AS WE IDENTIFIED IN OUR REPORT, THERE ARE SEVERAL FINDINGS THAT WE EXPECT TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

I WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT THESE RESULTS, THE RESULTS OF THESE EFFORTS, WE ARE MUCH BETTER POSITIONED FOR THE NEXT MAJOR INCIDENT THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL FACE.

WE ARE USING EVERYTHING WE LEARNED TO ENSURE WE ADAPT, IMPROVE, AND RESPOND TO BETTER SERVE OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY GENERAL MANAGER AND OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER JACKSON TO SHARE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED THAT ARE IN PROGRESS, AND THAT WILL BE ONGOING FOR OPERATIONS SYDNEY.

THANK YOU, JACKIE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE JUST A FEW BRIEF MOMENTS TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE COMPLETED ITEMS OF THE AUSTIN ENERGY AFTER ACTION REPORT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO REEMPHASIZE THAT WE DID NOT WAIT UNTIL THE REPORTS COMPLETION TO START THESE ACTION ITEMS. AND WE HAVE WORKED, UH, TO INCLUDE IN GREAT DETAIL, UH, THE ACTIONS THAT ARE NEEDED AS WELL AS THE DELIVERY DATES THAT WE EXPECT LOOKING AT OBSERVATION, NUMBER ONE, AND THIS IS INCLUDED IN THE AFTER ACTION REPORT.

UH, WE HAVE COMPLETED SEVERAL OUTAGE MAP UPDATES, TECHNICAL ISSUES FOR OUTAGES, NOT REFLECTED IN THE OUTAGE MAP HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.

WE HAVE COMPLETED MODIFICATIONS TO THE OUTAGE MAPS THAT SHOW A SHADING THAT WAS CAUSING CONCLUSION CONFUSION THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED.

WE HAVE COMPLETED INTERNAL TRAINING, UH, AS, AS IT RELATES TO KEY INTERNAL SYSTEMS THAT POPULATE THE OUTAGE MAP TO ASSURE THAT WE HAVE TIMELY UPDATES.

UH, THOSE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AS WELL.

UH, BUT WE DO HAVE IN PROGRESS ENHANCEMENTS WITH THE OUTAGE MAP VENDOR IN TERMS OF TEXTS ALERTS AND SOCIAL MEDIA INTEGRATIONS, AND THAT IS EXPECTED FOR QUARTER 2 20 22, MOVING TO OBSERVATION, NUMBER THREE, MEDICAL VULNER TREE REGISTRY REGISTRY.

WE ARE IN PROCESS.

WE'RE WORKING WITH OTHER CITY OF AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS TO ESTABLISH A COORDINATED COMMUNICATION PROCESS TO ASSIST THE MEDICALLY VULNERABLE.

AND THAT'S EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED Q1 2022, LOOKING AT OBSERVATION NUMBER FIVE, THE MANAGEMENT OF ERCOT MANDATED LOAD SHED, OR LOW CURTAILMENTS ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

WE CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AUSTIN ENERGY SYSTEMS FOR APPROPRIATE SEXUALIZATION.

UH, ALSO FOR Q4 2021, WE ARE INCREASING OUR COORDINATION WITH COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS, AND A LOT OF THAT WORK AS WELL HAS BEGUN.

AND A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN ALREADY EXPENDED IN THAT SPACE ONGOING BASIS.

WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE ACTIVE ENGAGEMENT IN THE ERCOT

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PUC AND PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSION IN THE ERCOT, UH, REGULATORY SPACE, AGAIN, A LOT OF EFFORTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS AND, AND, UH, HAVE BEEN UNDERWAY IN THAT SPACE.

LOOKING AT OBSERVATION NUMBER SIX, UH, THE ERCOT MARKET AND GENERATION, UH, PLANTS ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

WE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE OUR REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS FOR WEATHERIZATION FOR OUR POWER PLANTS.

AND THIS INCLUDES OUR COMPLIANCE OBLIGATIONS.

AS THEY CHANGE OVER TIME, UH, WITH A Q4 2021 COMPLETION DATE, WE WILL BE EVALUATING UPGRADES TO HEAT TRACING, UH, FOR SOME OF THE OUTSIDE WATER SUPPLY LINES.

WE ARE REVIEWING OUR WEATHERIZATION PRACTICES TO INCLUDE CHECKLISTS AND PROCEDURES.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO CONDUCTING, UH, EVALUATIONS WITH THIRD PARTY PARTY ENTITIES, UH, REVIEWING OUR WEATHERIZATION, UH, METHODS, MOVING TO OBSERVATION, NUMBER EIGHT MANAGEMENT OF VEGETATION, NEAR POWER LINES.

WE CONTINUE ONGOING CONTINUED EDUCATE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT CYCLE PROGRAMS, WORKING TO MANAGE LINE CLEARANCES BETWEEN TREES AND VEGETATION.

AND AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE CONTINUE THE COMMUNICATION WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND, UH, EXCUSE ME, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND OTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND STAKEHOLDERS AROUND THE IMPORTANCE OF VEGETATION MANAGEMENT, OBSERVATION, NUMBER 12, FLEET MANAGEMENT, UH, AND VEHICLE TRAVEL DURING A WINTER STORM, WE HAVE COMPLETED IDENTIFICATION OF VEHICLE TYPES AND NEEDED A WINTER STORM OF EQUIPMENT.

THIS IS A BRIEF SUMMARY OF OUR AFTER ACTION REPORTS.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS 112 OF FOLLOWUP ACTIONS, AND THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THOSE KEY, UH, FOLLOW-UP, UH, ACTIONS.

AND I KNOW WE WANT TO GET TO QUESTIONS, BUT I DID WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH, UH, SOME OF THE ACTIONS THAT AUSTIN WATER HAS TAKEN, UH, AS A RESULT OF LAST YEAR'S LAST, UH, FEBRUARY STORM, DR.

MASCARAS, THANK YOU, MANAGER COUNCIL, JUST TO FRAME UP AGAIN, FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATION, WE REALLY EXAMINE THREE AREAS, OUR INCIDENT RESPONSE, OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES AND WHAT WE TERMED A TECHNICAL REVIEW OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEMS AND, UH, AND REALLY I'VE TAKEN AFFIRMATIVE STEPS IN ALL THOSE AREAS.

AS I DESCRIBED IN OUR BRIEFING ON THE INCIDENT SIDE, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED OUR STORAGE OF EMERGENCY WATER SUPPLIES.

WE NOW STORE, UH, 10 TIMES AS MUCH EMERGENCY.

WE HAVE ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH JUAN AND HIS TEAM ON HOW TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE AND DEVELOP A MORE REFINED DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM APPROACH.

WE'VE PURCHASED TWO WATER TRUCKS, ONE'S IN SERVICE ALREADY.

WE HAVE THE SECOND ONE THAT WILL BE COMING AND, UH, AND WE'LL BE IN SERVICE, UH, BEFORE THE WINTER, UH, ON THE COMMUNICATION SIDES, WE'VE SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED OUR COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES, MULTIPLE LANGUAGE, MUCH MORE REFINED APPROACHES TO WHAT IT MEANS TO GRIP YOUR FAUCET, WHAT FAUCET TO DRIP.

WHAT'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DRIPPING AND STREAMING, HOW TO TURN OFF THE WATER AT YOUR CURB VIDEOS TO SUPPORT THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WENT AS WE WERE AT DOVE SPRINGS WITH YOU HERE.

HOPEFULLY YOU GOT A FLAVOR FOR SOME OF THE NEW CONTENT THAT WE HAD OVER THERE.

UM, ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, WE'VE TAKEN SIGNIFICANT STEPS.

WE'VE PREPARED ALL THE DAMAGE THAT WE INCURRED FROM THE WINTER STORM STRENGTHEN OUR HEAT TRACING, UH, BLANKETS CHAINS, UH, ENHANCED INSULATION, WHICH IS STILL UNDERWAY ALREADY.

WE HAVE A NEW STORAGE TANK UNDERWAY COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE HAVE A STORAGE TANK UNDERWAY WITH THE DEVELOPER IN YOUR DISTRICT TO ENHANCE STORAGE.

WE HAVE MORE COMMUNICATION OR MORE INFRASTRUCTURE COMING.

WE'VE TOTALLY REVAMPED THE WAY WE OPERATE IN THE WINTER, HISTORICALLY WITH A TREATMENT PLANTS AND SURFACE WATER.

WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE OUT OF SERVICE FOR A REPAIR CLEANING.

AND, UH, AND WE'VE REVAMPED THAT TO KEEP MORE INFRASTRUCTURE AVAILABLE, TO MEET PEAK DEMAND IN THE WINTER, AND MIGHT THINK UNUSUAL THAT YOU NEED TO MEET PEAK DEMAND IN THE WINTER, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED DURING WINTER STORM YURI.

AND SO WE'VE TAKEN STEPS TO BE BETTER PREPARED THIS WINTER TO MAKE IT MEET A PEAK DEMAND.

EVENTUALLY WE HAVE A SIMILAR TYPE STORM.

AND SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF A FRAME-UP OF THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ROSARIOS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SLIDE AT THE PRESENTATION ON NOVEMBER 4TH THAT REALLY FRAMED IT UP NICE FOR ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LIKELY HAVE A WINTER EVENTS, BUT NOTHING I DON'T THINK WILL BE THE IMPACT THAT WE HAD, BUT WE WILL BE SEEING SIGNIFICANT EVENTS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF CLIMATE CHANGE.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR UNCERTAINTY, HOWEVER, THAT MAY TAKE PLACE.

SO THIS WAS REALLY A PRECURSOR OF FUTURE EVENTS, AND WE NEED AS A CITY, AS A COUNTY, AS A COMMUNITY TO BE RE, TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO STORMS OF GREATER INTENSITY, COMBINED WITH EQUALLY CHALLENGING EMERGENCIES, UH, CONCURRENT EMERGENCIES, AS WE WERE EXPERIENCING, UH, WITH THIS STORM, UH, WHETHER IT'S A, YOU KNOW, A FLOOD ON TOP OF A ANOTHER EVENT.

UH, BUT WE CERTAINLY ARE DOING, UH, THINGS NOW TO

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HELP US PREPARE FOR THOSE.

UH, WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS, UH, LAST EVENT WITH OUR EYES WIDE OPEN ABOUT THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE.

UH, WE KNOW THAT WE WERE UNPREPARED TO HANDLE THIS TYPE OF EVENT, UH, BUT WE WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN GOING FORWARD.

SO, UH, THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS AFTER ACTION REPORT.

UH, WE EMBRACE IT AND WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO MANY MORE THINGS, AND WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND DEDICATION, UH, OF OUR COUNCIL AND OTHER LEADERS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH THIS.

THIS WILL REQUIRE A COMMUNITY, UH, AND I KNOW THAT THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY IS READY TO HELP TACKLE THIS TOGETHER WITH THAT ALTERNATIVE BACK TO YOU MAYOR.

AND WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

THANKS.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, I HAD TWO QUICK QUESTIONS, THE FIRST ONE TO ONE AND THE SECOND ONE TO, TO JACK HERE, TO AUSTIN ENERGY, UH, YOU RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THAT THE COMMUNITY, IT HAD A BIG EVENT LIKE THIS.

IT'S GOTTA BE A POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO BEAT ALL THE NEEDS THAT HAPPENED.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS YOU'RE DOING TO EXPAND THE REACH OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WORKING TOGETHER TO DO THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT HOW ARE WE BETTER? WHAT DO WE, HOW, WHAT ARE THE STEPS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN? WHAT ARE THE INSTITUTIONAL CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE IN ORDER TO BETTER HELP FACILITATE, ORGANIZE SUPPLY, COMMUNICATE WITH RESPOND, TO RECOGNIZE THE COMMUNITY EFFORTS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALL THROUGH THE CITY, ALL THROUGH THE REGION.

WHEN WE HAVE THIS KIND OF AN EVENT THAT GOVERNMENT CAN'T, CAN'T MEET ALL THE DEEDS BY ITSELF.

UM, GOOD QUESTION MAYOR.

UM, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT IS VERY IMPORTANT IS THAT AS THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT WE CREATED A, AN ENVIRONMENT OF COLLABORATION.

UM, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CAN DO IT ALONE.

AND THE, THE, THE NON-GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS CAN NOT DO IT BY THEMSELVES.

EITHER THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN NOT DO IT BY THEMSELVES.

IT REALLY TAKES A, A GROUP EFFORT.

UM, AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE IS THAT, UH, OPEN LINES OF COMMUNICATIONS REACHING OUT PROACTIVELY WITH ALL OUR PARTNERS, UH, BUT TH WHAT LOOKING AT THOSE METHODS THAT WORK SUCKS.

THEY GAVE US ACCESS TO OUR PANDEMIC RESPONSE DURING THE HURRICANE RESPONSE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE CAN GET, GET TO A LEVEL WHERE WE CAN, UM, BE FORTHCOMING ON WHAT CAPABILITIES WE HAVE, WHAT GAPS WE CAN SEE AS A COMMUNITY.

AND WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS THAT, UH, THAT AT TIMES THE CITY AND THE COUNTY GONNA LEAD, AND AT TIMES THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS GOING TO LEAD, OR EVEN A NON-GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATIONS ARE GOING TO LEAD.

AND THAT'S REALLY THAT, THAT SYSTEMATIC APPROACH OF THAT INTEGRATED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PROCESS THAT DOES NOT, THAT DOES NOT END WITH WINTER STORM.

IT CONTINUES AS A CYCLICAL WAY AS WE LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT HAZARDS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REACHING OUT TO OUR PARTNERS AND SITTING DOWN AND HAVING THAT, UH, BASE COMMUNICATIONS LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING, UM, HAD LUNCH WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN RED CROSS OR CENTRAL TEXAS, GETTING TO KNOW US AT THAT LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE ALL COMING FROM AND UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT, UM, PARAMETERS OF WHICH THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES, UH, ARE NEED TO WORK SO THAT WE CAN COME TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT WE CAN DO THE BEST JOB THAT WE CAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I REALLY LIKED THE HIGH LEVEL DESCRIPTION OF THAT.

WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS HOW THAT ACTUALLY BECOMES ACTIONABLE.

SHOULD THERE BE SOMEBODY DULY APPOINTED POSITION THAT'S CREATED THAT IS VOLUNTEER OR COMMUNITY ORGANIZER OR LIAISON SOMEBODY DIFFERENT.

THAT'S NOT HAVING ANOTHER Y ANY OTHER OPERATIONAL DUTIES, BECAUSE I WATCHED YOU GET PULLED A MILLION DIFFERENT WAYS DURING THE STORM.

SHOULD THERE BE ONE PERSON IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY WHO HAD, DOES NOTHING BUT SPEAK TO AND COMMUNICATE WITH ORGANIZING THAT? SHOULD WE HAVE, UH, IDENTIFIED A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE LOCAL VOLUNTEER COORDINATORS THAT YOU MEET WITH ONCE A YEAR.

UH, AND, AND THEY NEVER DO ANYTHING UNLESS, AND UNTIL THERE'S SOMETHING ACTIONABLE THAT HAPPENS LIKE THIS, BUT THEN YOU HAVE A LIST OF A HUNDRED PEOPLE THAT ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY OR INSTITUTIONALLY INTEGRATED INTO THE BROADER COMMUNITY, UH, BUT HAVE GONE THROUGH EVERY YEAR, UH, UH, A MORNING OR AN AFTERNOON DISCUSSION OF, OF WHAT IT WAS THAT WE SAW AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE A HUGE

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DISASTER THAT, THAT EVERYBODY, I, I HEAR THE GOAL I'M I'M WELL IN FAVOR OF WHAT I'M MISSING MANAGER IS HOW THAT ACTUALLY BECOMES ACTIONABLE.

AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE, UH, IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH OUR MEMO OR A NOTE TO SAY, WE RECOGNIZE HOW BIG THIS WAS, AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALIZE THAT, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S THAT IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY WHILE I'M, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MY QUESTION FOR AUSTIN ENERGY REAL FAST IS, UH, AND, AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU ALL ASKED THIS QUESTION WHEN I WASN'T THERE AND I MISSED IT IN THE TAPE, UH, UH, WHAT ARE WE DOING, OR CAN WE NOW DO MORE ROLLING BLACKOUTS THAN, UM, THAN WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO BEFORE? SO, UM, THERE, UH, AGAIN, JACKIE SERGEANT AUSTIN ENERGY, GENERAL MANAGER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE IS LOOKED AT, UM, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES TO FURTHER SECTIONALIZE OUR CIRCUITS SO THAT WE HAVE SMALLER AMOUNTS OF LOAD THAT ARE ABLE TO BE SHED AS WE, UM, ASSERT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MEET THE ERCOT MANDATED, UM, LOAD, SHED REQUIREMENTS.

AND SO THAT WILL HELP US TO FURTHER ISOLATE CRITICAL LOADS SO THAT THERE'S, UM, MORE LOAD THAT'S NOT CRITICAL REMOVED FROM THOSE CIRCUITS AND THEN PUT INTO THE, UM, LOAD SHED CIRCUITS, GIVING US GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND ADDITIONAL LOADS, UM, THAT CAN BE SHUT DOWN, BUT STILL ENSURING THAT CRITICAL LOADS ARE MET.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND I WANT TO REALLY GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR INDUSTRIAL AND OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS THAT ARE WORKING WITH US ON VOLUNTARY PROGRAMS, WHERE THEY WILL, UM, REDUCE THEIR CONSUMPTION IN INTERVALS BASED ON CERTAIN REQUESTS FROM ERCOT.

SO WHEN WE GET TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT ERCOT IS ASKING, UH, FOR LOAD SHED ON THE GRID, UM, THEN WE WILL HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE, AND WE WILL HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO ASK THOSE CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE THOSE TYPES OF LOADS THAT CAN BE VOLUNTARILY, UM, TAKEN OFF THE GRID, UM, THAT THEY WILL DO THAT.

AND THAT WILL HELP US BY GIVING US MORE LOAD, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT HAVING TO USE ALL OF THOSE LOAD SHEDS CIRCUITS.

THAT'S HELPFUL AGAIN.

AND I THINK THAT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE OVERARCHING GOAL.

IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH A NOTE OR A MEMO, IT ACTUALLY TELLS US THAT WE'VE DONE THAT, OR WE CAN'T DO THAT, OR HOW WE'RE DOING THAT WITH THE FIRST ONE.

WE KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS TO SEE IF WE CAN FURTHER SECTIONALIZE IT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, UM, UH, CREATE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE ABLE TO TURN OFF AREAS BECAUSE OF THE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT KIND OF THING.

I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL AND INCLUDED IN OUR AFTER ACTION REPORT.

IT IS ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS ARE CAUGHT MANDATED LOAD SHED AND OUR LOAD SHEET AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND IT TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SEXUALIZATION.

AND THERE'S ALSO A FINDING ABOUT WORKING WITH OUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THOSE GOALS, HAVE WE SET HOW MANY MORE SECTIONS DO THOSE AREN'T GOALS? THE THINGS THAT ARE IN HERE ARE ACTIONABLE AND VALUE THAT I GET.

SO I'M NOW ASKING FOR THE FOLLOW-UP, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY SECTIONS WE HAD BEFORE AND HOW MANY SECTIONS WE HAVE AFTER WE'VE TAKEN THAT ACTION SO THAT WE CAN SAY TO THE PUBLIC, NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO BE WORKING IN THIS AREA AND THAT'S OUR GOAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN REACHING BACK OFF.

SO WE HAVE TAKEN ACTION SINCE THE 2011 STORM.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF CIRCUITS THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE IN THE LOAD SHED BY 350%.

AND THAT'S AN ONGOING ACTIVITY.

SO AS YOU LOOK AROUND THE CITY AND YOU SEE ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S TAKING PLACE, AND WE ADD CIRCUITS, THAT BECOMES OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL CIRCUITS THAT CAN BECOME PART OF THE LOAD SHED PROGRAM.

AND SO I HEAR WHAT YOUR REQUEST IS, AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN PUT IN A FORMAL RESPONSE.

AND IT'S GOOD TO DO THAT PROSPECTIVELY WITH RESPECT TO THE NEW AREAS COMING ON, UH, UH, KNOWING HOW MANY MORE WAYS WE'RE ABLE TO SECTIONALIZE THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND THE EXISTING WOULD BE HELPFUL TO JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT THAT IS AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT WE DO CONTINUOUSLY.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S A ONE AND DONE, BUT AS OUR SYSTEM EVOLVES, GROWS, DEVELOPS, IT IS AN ONGOING THING THAT WE DO.

AND THAT'S GREAT IF WE COULD JUST PICK A POINT IN TIME, THEN I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLICANS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE.

SO THE MORE SPECIFICS WE CAN GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, WE HAD 10 CIRCUITS BEFORE, AND NOW WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY SHUT DOWN A HUNDRED.

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UH, SO WE'VE TAKEN THE EXISTING SURFERS AND HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO CUT THEM UP INTO TWO, THREE OR FIVE OR 10 PIECES SO THAT WE HAVE GREATER FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO ROTATE POWER OUTAGES.

I UNDERSTAND THIS, THE GOAL, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'LL BE CONSTANTLY WORKING TO DO THAT OVER TIME.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REPORT TO THE COMMUNITY SUCCESS OR ACHIEVEMENT IN THAT WAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE DESCRIBED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT WHAT IT IS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE IN FACT IN A VERY DIFFERENT PLACE EITHER NOW, OR AS WE MEET THAT GOAL THAN WE WERE BACK THEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, UM, INVITE MY COLLEAGUES TO, AND THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW, UM, OUR RECENT AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING DISCUSSION OF THE AUDITOR'S REPORT RELATED TO, UM, THE WINTER STORM ACTIONS.

UM, THE TOPICS COVERED WERE SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS.

UM, THREE REPORTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US FROM THE CITY MANAGER ALSO WANT TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER IF WE CAN MAKE SURE ALL FOUR, UM, REPORTS ARE IN THE BACKUP, UM, FOR THIS ITEM ON TODAY'S AND ON THURSDAYS SESSIONS, UM, THE AUDITOR'S REPORT HIGHLIGHTED HOW MANY AFTER ACTION RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PRIOR DISASTERS WERE NOT IMPLEMENTED AND IT IDENTIFIED MANY THAT WOULD HAVE MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE HAD THEY BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

UM, SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR WAY FORWARD SO THAT WE PREVENT THE SAME SITUATION HAPPENING AGAIN, FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD IN THESE REPORTS.

UM, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THERE WERE SOME EFFORT IN THE DISCUSSION TODAY TO LEAD WITH THAT.

UM, BUT IT, BUT IT IS STILL KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW, WHICH MEANS THAT THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WE WON'T KNOW IF WE'VE MADE PROGRESS ON THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON.

UM, SO I WANT TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER, HOW DO WE PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS HEART-WRENCHING TO READ THROUGH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS TO UNDERSTAND WE HAD 400 RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE LCRA WATER BOIL SITUATION, MANY OF WHICH WEREN'T IMPLEMENTED, SOME OF WHICH WERE REPEATED IN OTHER AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR OTHER THINGS THAT HAD, WE HAD THEM IN PLACE WOULD HAVE HELPED SOME PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE HELPED OUR EMPLOYEES TO BETTER WEATHER THE STORM.

UM, SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING? WHAT IS THE MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE USING TO PUT THE PRIORITY ON THESE ITEMS MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE KNOW THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO GET DONE, GET DONE THIS TIME.

I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER, AND WE HAVE CERTAINLY BEEN FOCUSED ON THAT, UH, INTERNALLY WITHIN THE EXECUTIVE TEAM AND LOOKING AT THE TRACKING MECHANISMS THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY.

AND SO, UH, LOOKING BOTH AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PAST, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE SEE IN FRONT OF US NOW, UH, AS, AS DIRECTOR ORTIZ SAID, HE'S ALREADY PRIORITIZE, UH, A NUMBER OF THEM, UH, GOING FORWARD.

BUT I HAD NOT REQUESTED, UH, DEMANDED THAT WE HAVE AN ONGOING REPORTING STRUCTURE, NOT JUST WITHIN THE EXECUTIVE TEAM, BUT TO COUNCIL ON.

SO THERE'S SOME TRANSPARENCY AROUND HOW WE, UH, ARE ABLE TO SHOW THAT PROGRESS AND TO BE VERY EYES WIDE OPEN ABOUT WHAT, UH, WHAT STEPS NEED TO STILL BE TAKEN.

UH, SO YOU KNOW, WHAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE AND WHAT HASN'T BEEN DONE.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE WAY THAT WE'RE TRACKING INTERNALLY ON OUR OWN, ON OUR OWN WORK, THE WAY THAT THE AUDITOR'S TRACKING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM THAT, UH, WHICH IS AN ONGOING BASIS, AND THEY'LL HAVE FOLLOW-UP, UH, REPORTS FOR A DOD AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, UH, AND THEN THE, THE DEMAND, UH, THAT I MADE TO STAFF, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A FEEDBACK LOOP.

SO WE CAN BE TRANSPARENT WITH THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR PROGRESS ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THANK YOU AS PART OF THAT, IF YOU CAN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SEEING WHAT'S BEEN PRIORITIZED SO THAT, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE, BY MY LAST COUNT, THERE'S LIKE OVER 600 RECOMMENDATIONS, SOME OF WHICH OVERLAP, UM, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE NOT, EVERYTHING'S GOING TO GIVE US THE SAME BANG FOR THE BUCK IN TERMS OF PREPAREDNESS.

UM, BUT, BUT WE DO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT SO THAT WE CAN TRACK IT AND HAVE THAT TRANSPARENCY.

UM, I WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT AND THEN ASK ONE OTHER QUESTION.

UM, SO IN THE AA REPORT, IT DOES MAKE CLEAR THAT THE STORM REALLY STARTED ON FEBRUARY 11TH.

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UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE, IN THE MATERIAL THAT I'VE SEEN FROM AA, THEY UNDERSTAND THERE WERE KIND OF TWO STORM EVENTS.

THERE WAS THE, THE ICE STORMS AND, UM, THE COLD WEATHER THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE AIR CAUGHT LOAD SHUT.

AND THEN THERE WAS THE AIR-CON LOAD SHED, AND THE VARIOUS PARTS AFTERWARDS, I DID NOT SEE THAT REFLECTED IN THE HAGGERTY AFTER ACTION REPORT.

UM, AND I THINK WE MISS THAT IN THAT DISCUSSION, UM, AT OUR PERIL, BECAUSE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS, I WAS EXPERIENCING, IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 40% OF MY DISTRICT WAS OUT OF POWER.

UM, WE EXPERIENCED EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE EXPERIENCED THE NEXT WEEK, THREE DAYS SOONER.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT HE, SOME WASN'T ACTIVATED ON THE NIGHT OF FEBRUARY 11TH WHEN WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE OUT OF POWER WITH, WITH THE ICE STORM THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR SHELTERS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TEXTS WITH THE CITY MANAGER WHERE I'M ASKING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SET UP SHELTERS AND, AND, AND NONE OF THAT WAS HAPPENING AND, AND ROLLING OUT.

UM, AND SO I'M CONCERNED THAT IF OUR AFTER ACTION REPORT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE, UM, THAT PIECE, THAT WE'RE MISSING SOME KEY INSIGHTS, UM, AND IT MAY HAPPEN AGAIN THAT YOU HAVE A PORTION OF THE CITY EXPERIENCED EVENT BEFORE THE REST OF THE CITY.

UM, AND, AND WE, WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM LEARN FROM THAT, UM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND CON TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SPECIFIC POINT YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, INDICATING THAT, UM, THAT THE AFTER-ACTION REPORT DID NOT GO FAR ENOUGH.

UM, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE, UH, THE, WE DID HAVE SOME, UH, INTERACTIONS PRIOR TO THE 11TH.

UM, AND WE DO EVERY WINTER SEASON, WHENEVER CERTAIN CRITERIA IS MET TO OPEN UP WHAT WE CALL IT, A COLD WEATHER SHELTER.

UH, WE, WE, WE, WE OPEN UP A CALDWELL, A SHELTER, UM, UH, PRIMARILY SERVES THOSE THAT, UM, ARE, UM, UH, HOMELESS THAT NEED, UH, A PLACE TO SPEND THE NIGHT.

AND THAT NIGHT ON THE 11TH, ACTUALLY A NIGHT BEFORE THAT, UM, WE HAD ALREADY, UM, ACTIVATED COLDWELL THE SHELTERS, UH, PRIOR TO THAT, THAT WE CAN HAPPENING BELIEVE THE 11TH IS THE, UH, IS THAT A THURSDAY NIGHT THURSDAY? CORRECT.

AND SO WE DID ACTIVATE THAT THURSDAY NIGHT, UH, A COLD WEATHER SHELTER.

IN FACT, IT WAS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEER AGENCIES WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE STAFF.

UH, WE ACTUALLY UTILIZE HE SOME STAFF TO GO OUT THERE AND, AND, UM, ASSIST WITH THE REGISTRATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS THAT NEEDED TO GET TO A COLD WEATHER SHELTER THAT NIGHT, UH, UM, GOT TO A COLD WEATHER SHELTER LOCATION.

THE CHALLENGE HERE IS THAT YOU HAVE A SERIES OF EVENTS.

AND IN FACT, I THINK THERE WAS A TOTAL OF THREE STOLEN WAS THAT CAME THROUGH THAT, THAT, THAT SERIES, THE MAIN PART OF THE CITYWIDE IMPACT DID NOT START HAPPENING UNTIL THAT FRIDAY.

AND I BELIEVE MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE, THE, THE REPORT MIGHT CONCENTRATE THAT ON SATURDAY ON THAT FRIDAY.

I GUESS MY EXPERIENCE OF THAT WEEKEND WAS VERY DIFFERENT, ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND I REMEMBER HAVING TEXTS AND COMMENTS WITH MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT WHAT I WAS GOING THROUGH, AND NONE OF THEM WERE GOING THROUGH WHAT MY DISTRICT WAS GOING THROUGH AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

UM, AND IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE WENT THROUGH THE NEXT WEEK.

I JUST STARTED ALREADY BEEN THROUGH IT.

UM, AND EVERY PIECE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE OUTAGE MAPS AND EVERY OTHER THING WE ALREADY KNEW WAS GOING WRONG OVER THE WEEKEND.

AND THEN WE HAD THE OTHER ON TOP OF IT.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S, UM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO BOTTOM OF IT IN THIS FORUM, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOME FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE I THINK THERE, THERE, THERE ARE LESSONS AND THINGS TO BE LEARNED WHERE WE ARE, WE SAW WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND WE DIDN'T ADAPT AND ADJUST IN WAYS.

AND I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HINDSIGHT IS 20, 20, 20, 21 THESE DAYS.

UM, BUT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT VIEWING THESE EVENTS AS THAT IF THEY STARTED AT FEBRUARY 15TH AT ONE IN THE MORNING, UM, BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT MOST WOULD A GOOD CHUNK OF THE CITY EXPERIENCED.

UM, AND, AND I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE REPORT.

UM, SO I HAD SAID I HAD A SECOND QUESTION THE FIRST, THAT WAS OUR OBSERVATION, BUT, UM, WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM THE AUDITOR'S REPORT WAS THAT THERE WERE REQUESTS THAT WERE MADE BY HE SOME IN THE BUDGET THAT WERE NOT GRANTED.

UM, BUT I DIDN'T GET A GRASP ON WHAT THOSE WERE.

UM, AND I, AND I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR THAT, UM, AND THIS IS THE CITY MANAGER'S ROLE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH DEPARTMENTS TO DETERMINE WHAT THINGS ADVANCE AND WHAT DOESN'T,

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UM, BUT NEVER HAVING SEEN WHAT EASE SOME ASKED FOR, BUT DIDN'T GET CONCERNS ME.

UM, SO I'D LIKE SOME GREATER TRANSPARENCY, UM, BECAUSE CLEARLY FROM A LOT OF THESE REPORTS, WE NEED TO HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE AT HOUSTON.

15 PEOPLE CANNOT PREPARE US FOR THE CLIMATE OF CLIMATE DISASTERS OR 13 PEOPLE, UM, THAT WE'RE FACING.

AND A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS SUGGEST ADDITIONAL RESOURCES.

SO I'D LIKE SOME GREATER TRANSPARENCY EITHER NOW, OR IN A FOLLOW-UP ABOUT WHAT HE, SOME HAS ASKED FOR AND WHAT THEY WERE GIVEN, WHAT THEY WERE NOT GIVEN.

AND THEN AS I EXPRESSED IT ON IN FINANCE, I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH THIS NOTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE FISCAL YEAR OF 23 BUDGET PROCESS TO GET THEM THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED AND NOT CONSIDER A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

WE DO HAVE SOME FUNDING FROM AT LEAST THE 4 MILLION THAT WE, UH, PUT ASIDE FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THIS HAS GOT TO BE ONE OF OUR HIGHEST PRIORITIES, AND, AND YES, WE HAVE A BUDGET PROCESS, BUT IF YOU CAN'T DO YOUR JOB AT THE LEVEL, WE NEED YOU TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RESOURCED YOU.

THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE RESOURCES AND THEY NEED TO BE PRIORITIZED.

WE'RE TRYING TO FULFILL, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS OVER, WHAT'S GOING TO GIVE US THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK.

AND SO I THINK THAT PROCESS NEEDS TO HAPPEN AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY KNOWN THAT.

YEP.

UH, LET ME JUST ASSURE YOU THAT WE WILL NOT WAIT FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

UH, IF THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS AND RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED BY HOUSTON, THAT WE WOULD BRING THOSE BACK IN THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.

UM, AND THEN I WILL FOLLOW UP ON THE AUDIT, UH, QUESTION, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THAT FROM THE AUDITOR ON OTHER PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MAYBE WEREN'T FUNDED.

UH, AND SO I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON GETTING YOU THAT ANSWER.

CAN'T TELL, REMEMBER KELLY THAT THANK YOU.

UM, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER ABOUT NOT WANTING TO WAIT DISASTERS, AREN'T THINGS THAT YOU CAN JUST PLAN TO HAVE HAPPEN.

THEY HAPPEN WHEN THEY DO.

UM, I WONDER IF DIRECTOR ORTIZ, HOW MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY HAVE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ROLES THAT YOU WORK WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS? OH, A CUSTOMER.

THAT'S A REALLY, REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

UM, LET ME JUST START PROBABLY THE, THE LARGER DEPARTMENTS, UH, WOULD BE, UM, AUSTIN ENERGY, AUSTIN WATER, UM, UH, AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, WE, UM, BUT EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY, UM, ALSO HAS IDENTIFIED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, SINGLE POINTS OF CONTACT, WHICH WE MEET WITH THEM, UM, TO COORDINATE THE VARIOUS MANAGEMENT ACTIVITIES.

BUT AS FAR AS POSITIONS, CIVILIAN POSITIONS, THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT, THAT, UM, STAND OUT.

OKAY.

AND THEN EARLIER, WHEN YOU WERE ANSWERING MAYOR ADLER'S QUESTION, YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT, UM, LETTING VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATIONS PROBABLY GO ADS ACTIVE IN DISASTER, LEADING ON SPECIFIC THINGS DURING A DISASTER.

COULD YOU MAYBE GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT INTO THAT? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ALL DISASTERS ARE LOCAL AND GOVERNMENT CODE AT TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER FOUR 18 REALLY DIRECTS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A CITY IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO DISASTERS.

AND WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING AWAY AUTHORITY TO VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATIONS WHEN IT IS, WE ARE CHARGED BY THE STATE TO LEAD ON THAT.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, THE CHAPTER FOUR 18 AND IN MY PRACTICE AND RESEARCH SAYS THAT, UH, DISASTERS ARE A LOCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND, AND WHENEVER WE HAVE THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ASSIST US.

DON'T, WE'RE NOT PASSING THE AUTHORITY OF THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ANY OUTSIDE AGENCY AND, AND, UM, OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN, OUR CITY CHARTER KIND OF SPELLS OUT THAT DISASTERS ARE LOCAL, AND I'M HERE TO ASSURE YOU THAT, UH, WE, WE RE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT IF WE SEE THAT THE, AND WE SEE THE VALUE OF THAT, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION AND IN THE ALL ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY OF HOW EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS HANDLED AT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UH, LEVEL, THAT BEING SAID, UH, I THINK THAT IT'S, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE IN THE FACT THAT, THAT WE NEED THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN IS NOT THE CITY'S PLAN.

IT IS THE COMMUNITY'S PLAN.

AND IT ALSO ARRIVES A STRUCTURE OF HOW ALL THE DIFFERENT PRIVATE SECTOR NON-GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, VOLVO AD AGENCIES, VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS, ACTIVE IN DISASTER PLAY IN THE SANDBOX AND THE EVENT OF A DISASTER.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MESSAGE GOT ACROSS IS THAT, UM, WE ARE ACTIVELY ENGAGING AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY ENGAGE WITH THESE, UH, VOLUNTEER AGENCIES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE IDENTIFIED THE PROPER ROLE, UH, THAT THEY, THAT THEY PLAY AS WELL AS, UH, UNDERSTAND THE LIMITATIONS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO, UH, SO THAT WE

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CAN BE PREPARED, UH, IF WE NEED TO, UH, TO COME UP WITH A JOINT SOLUTION FOR EVERYBODY, I APPRECIATE THAT WHOLE COMMUNITY APPROACH.

SO MY LAST QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR THE RESILIENCY HUB ROLLOUT? YOU HAD MENTIONED IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER, BUT I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHEN WE MIGHT EXPECT TO SEE THAT OCCUR.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT, I'M NOT SURE WHO SHE IS AVAILABLE.

UM, I, LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

AS FAR AS THE TIMELINE IS CONCERNED, WE ARE WE'RE MEETING EVERY OTHER WEEK.

UH, AND, AND WE, WE HAVE AN ACTIVE TEAM THAT IS MEETING, UH, TO, TO COME UP WITH A ROLLOUT.

UH, AND I DON'T WANT TO STEAL THE THUNDER ON THAT, BUT I THINK, UH, IT MAY BE BETTER IF I CAN HAVE, UH, UH, LUCIA FROM THE, THE DIRECTOR FOR OFFICER'S SUSTAINABILITY, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU A BETTER, AN ANSWER THAT I CAN.

THANK YOU.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEALTH COMMITTEE MEETING.

AND SO THERE WAS A PRESENTATION AND A DISCUSSION AMONG COUNCIL MEMBERS AT THAT COMMITTEE MEETING ON NUMBERS, LINES, HUBS.

UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I ASSUME THAT, THAT WE'RE HAVING JUST A SHORT WHAT'S OUR PARAMETER HERE TODAY FOR THIS CONVERSATION.

ARE WE LOOKING TO TAKE A BREAK AT LUNCHTIME? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE 1, 2 30.

UH, SO THAT'S OUR CONSTRAINT.

SO PART OF IT IS JUST GETTING ASSESSMENT FOR HOW MUCH MORE PEOPLE WANT TO GO, UM, UM, TO SEE IF PEOPLE WANT TO, TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION OR WHAT POINT.

SO I HAVE, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT PROBABLY ARE BETTER SUBMITTED THROUGH THE Q AND A, UM, I JUST WANT TO STEP BACK AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF REPORTS THAT WE GOT.

SO TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVEN'T READ THE AUDIT, I CONCUR WITH COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER SUGGESTION.

THAT THAT'S A REALLY, I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL TO LINE ALL OF THESE UP TOGETHER.

AND I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED MANAGER IN, IN, UM, THE QUESTION OF WHY SOME OF THOSE REALLY SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION RECOMMENDATIONS WERE NOT BEING, HAD NOT BEEN IMPLEMENTED FROM LANGUAGE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE CROSS-TRAINING AMONGST STAFF TO THE STAFFING PLANS FOR, FOR NON, UM, FOR DEPARTMENTS AREN'T NECESSARILY WITHIN HAYSOM OR PART OF IT, PART OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER.

AND, AND I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ACTIONS THAT WE TAKE ON THIS COUNCIL ARE REALLY AIMED AT ADDRESSING, BUT WHAT IS A PRIORITY IN ALL OF THESE REPORTS, WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS BETTER PREPARED THAT WE'RE BUILDING, WE'RE BUILDING A CITY STRUCTURE THAT IS, UM, ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE DISASTERS OF 20, 21 AND BEYOND, WHICH ARE VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE DISASTERS THAT MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED IN PREVIOUS YEARS, AND THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO EQUIP, NOT JUST THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND, BUT TO EQUIP OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THE RESILIENCE HUBS, WHICH IS IN RESPONSE TO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATION I BROUGHT WITH MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT.

I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.

I THINK IT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY THERE IS A LOT MORE WE NEED TO DO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ONE I'M INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING IN A BIT MORE DETAIL, WHY SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS DID NOT MOVE FORWARD, DID NOT GET IMPLEMENTED.

WAS IT A RESOURCE ISSUE AS COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR IDENTIFIES? WAS IT, UM, A NEED FOR A DIFFERENT KIND OF STRUCTURE? WAS IT A NEED FOR STRONGER, UH, MANAGEMENT CONNECTION TO SOME OF THAT WORK? I, IT IS NOT SO MUCH AN, AN INTEREST IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHERE THE GAPS WERE, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY UNDERSTAND, WE REALLY UNDERSTAND IT AND CAN, AND COULD BE PREPARED BETTER PREPARED NEXT TIME.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE AFTER ACTION REPORT IS SOMETHING THAT IS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONSULTANT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IS, IS JUST A DIFFERENT KIND OF REPORT FROM THE INDEPENDENT AUDIT.

AND I THINK WE NEED, WE REALLY NEED BOTH OF THOSE.

UM, I'VE IDENTIFIED A COUPLE AREAS.

WE, WE SAW SUCH A NEED IN MY OPINION, DURING THIS DISASTER FOR THOSE OTHER DEPARTMENT STAFF TO BECOME INVOLVED.

AND SO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY IMPORTANT ONES IN THE AFTER ACTION REPORT ARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE, HOW IS THE BROAD ARRAY OF STAFF AT THE CITY TRAINED TO, TO PARTICIPATE IN DISASTER RESPONSE? UM, HOW ARE WE, WHAT IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE HERE AT THE CITY TO SUPPORT THOSE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS? NOT THAT WE BELIEVE IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, BECAUSE AS YOU ALL HAVE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT IS THE CITY, THE CITY HAS A PARTICULAR ROLE IN DISASTER RESPONSE.

IT'S MANDATED BY LAW AND IS IN A POSITION TO DO IT, BUT MANY OF THE RE MANY OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, UH, THE COMMUNITY RESILIENCE, UM, WORK TO THE TASK FORCE THAT OUR COMMUNITY TASK FORCE MEMBERS TO THE COMMENTS THAT WERE IN VARIOUS OTHER REPORTS,

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IDENTIFY THAT NEED FOR BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER EFFORTS.

UM, MORE COMMUNICATION WITHIN THE CITY.

AND I THINK TO DO THAT IS PROBABLY GONNA REQUIRE A REAL, A REAL FOCUS ON HOW, HOW, WHAT YOUR STRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE AT THE EOC IN TERMS OF THAT COMMUNICATION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS I APPROACH THIS TODAY AND LAST WEEK, IT'S, IT'S UNCLEAR THERE'S A LOT HERE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HANDLE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THROUGH THE Q AND A, BUT I ALSO AM VERY INTERESTED IN HOW WE AS A COUNCIL FOLLOW UP.

AND SO COLLEAGUES, I, IF I KNOW THERE ARE SEVERAL OF YOU ON THE DIOCESE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS WORK, ESPECIALLY TO ME, I, IT'S LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE THERE MIGHT BE A REAL NEED TO HAVE AN IFC KIND OF LAYING OUT WHERE, WHERE, AND WHEN WE WILL GET REPORTS BACK, UM, ABOUT SOME OF THESE AREAS OF REALLY HIGHEST IMPORTANCE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE JACKIE SERGEANT, THE WAY YOU APPROACHED, UM, YOUR REPORT IN PARTICULAR AND TOLD US EXACTLY WHEN THOSE ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND MAY, ARE YOU FILLED IN THAT WE SHOULD GET SOME KIND OF REPORT BACK.

I THINK IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE TOTALITY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK WE WOULD, WE WOULD THEN AS, AS POLICY MAKERS REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL POLICY DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF OR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO SORT OUT, YOU KNOW, I NEVER WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE I'M LOOKING AT AN AFTER ACTION REPORT AGAIN, AND LOOKING AT, AT THE COMMENT HERE.

UM, I KNOW SEVERAL OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS OFF THE DAYA.

SO I'LL TALK ABOUT IT HERE.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS, UH, AN AFTER ACTION RECOMMENDATION ABOUT PROVIDING TRAINING FOR, FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, AND BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, A LACK OF TRAINING FOR SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS IN EOC PROCESSES CONTRIBUTED TO CHALLENGES IN COORDINATING THE RESPONSE TO FIELD OPERATIONS.

AT THE SAME TIME, SOME CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OBSERVED GAPS IN THE PREPARATION AND CAPABILITIES OF DEPARTMENTS TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS THAT ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM AS I SEE IT AS I EXPERIENCED IT AS PROBABLY SOME OF YOU DID TOO, WAS NOT THAT, UM, WAS NOT THAT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

WE WERE GETTING OUT OF OUR LANE.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO ELSE WAS MEETING THOSE REALLY CRITICAL NEEDS OF MAKING SURE THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS HAD ACCESS TO WATER, THAT THEY HAD A SAFE PLACE TO GO WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, UM, THAT THEY HAD, YOU KNOW, BUCKETS TO FLUSH THE TOILETS IN ONE OF OUR CONGREGATE SHELTERS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I, UM, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS KIND OF AN OBSERVATION, EVEN BEING IN OUR AFTER ACTION REPORT, BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS, UM, IT, THAT IS NOT WHERE THAT W THAT WAS CERTAINLY A PRODUCT, UM, OF, OF THAT WEEK.

SEVERAL OF US STEPPED WAY OUT OF OUR LANES.

MOST OF US STEPPED WAY OUT OF, OF WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT OF YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, UM, BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES, THE COMMUNICATION NOT KNOWING WHERE TO FORWARD NEEDS TO AND WHATNOT.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD TODAY.

I APPRECIATE THESE REPORTS.

I THINK WE ARE GOING TO BE BETTER PREPARED FOR THE NEXT DISASTER.

THANK YOU FOR BEGINNING TODAY'S CONVERSATION BY TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

I REALLY WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE AS A COUNCIL KIND OF GET THAT ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF DETAILS ABOUT IT.

AND, AND OUR, ESPECIALLY REALLY JUST UP TO DATE ON WHEN THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE COMING FORWARD.

HANG ON ONE SECOND, CASTLEBERRY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF THINGS I DEFINITELY IDENTIFY WITH WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR TALKS ABOUT ENERGY LINES.

WE DEFINITELY SAW IT WITH THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND SO I REALLY HOPE, AND WE HAVE HAD GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH AUSTIN WATER OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

AND SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, AND THEY'VE DEFINITELY BEEN RESPONSIVE AND ARE WORKING TOWARD THINGS LIKE WHEN PEOPLE LOOK TO THEM FOR POTABLE WATER, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT LOOKING LIKE MOVING FORWARD.

SO I'M CONFIDENT THOSE, UM, THOSE ACTION ITEMS ARE, ARE DEFINITELY TAKING PLACE, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT IN, IN SOME OF THE SITUATION WE HAD, YOU KNOW, FOLKS IN, IN MY DISTRICT AND I'M LOOKING AT YOU, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THIS IS THERE'S WATER INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES GOING ON IN THAT LOCATION, BUT UNDERSTANDING WHO'S GOING TO BE FIRST OFFLINE.

AND IN THE LAST BACK ON, UM, A LOT OF MY DISTRICTS, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE ROADS AND HIGHWAYS WERE EITHER MELTING OR CLEAR, THERE WERE STILL PORTIONS OF THE DISTRICT THAT WERE HIGHWAYS AND BRIDGES THAT WERE STILL COVERED IN ICE AND SNOW IN SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE WITHOUT WATER FOR A WHOLE WEEK.

SO I KNOW THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE NEED TO BE MUCH QUICKER ABOUT HOW, HOW TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR, FOR A LOT OF THESE ITEMS, WATER DISTRIBUTION, YOU KNOW, ELECTRICITY, REPAIR LINES, RESILIENCE, HUBS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, BUT I, I WILL AGREE THAT A LOT OF US AS COUNCIL MEMBER TBA WAS SAYING, WE WERE JUST STEPPING UP

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AND DOING WHAT WE COULD, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.

AND PEOPLE WERE SHARING INFORMATION AND SAYING, I HAVE SOME OF THIS, OR CAN YOU FIND ME A PERSON YOU ASKED THIS SKILL AND REALLY TRYING TO DO THAT.

SO I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON, ON CITY DEPARTMENTS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS.

UM, CAUSE I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHO TO LOOK AT AND WHO TO TURN TO.

AND MOST OF THE INFORMATION I GOT WAS AFTER I ALREADY KNEW IT WAS A PROBLEM.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT FLOODS, WILDFIRE AND WINTER STORMS AND OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING MORE FREQUENTLY.

LIKE I KNOW THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED A CITY MANAGER, BUT I TELL PEOPLE THAT THESE ISSUES OF NOT HAVING ENERGY, NOT HAVING WATER ARE GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT THE NATURAL DISASTER IS.

IT'S NOT JUST A STORM THAT'S GOING TO DO IT.

FLOODS HAVE CAUSED, UM, WATER, INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS, UM, YOU KNOW, WILDFIRES, DEFINITELY GOING TO HAVE IMPACTS.

A LOT OF MY DISTRICT.

TWO HAS, UM, THE WILD LAND, URBAN INTERFACE THAT I KNOW A LOT OF US TALK ABOUT OFTENTIMES.

AND SO, UM, I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THE LEANING ON KIND OF UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE'RE GOING TO GET UPDATES AND HOW WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION BACK TO OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE, UM, I, I DO THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT TASKS OF GOVERNMENT IS TO STEP UP WHEN THINGS ARE GOING WRONG.

AND THERE'S THINGS THAT, THAT AREN'T NICE TO HAVE THEIR NEED TO HAVE LIKE HEAT AND DRINKABLE WATER.

AND SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS STEPPING UP IN THIS.

I JUST ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.

A LOT OF US CAN ALSO HAVE THAT, UM, THAT COMMUNICATION BACK TO THE DEPARTMENTS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHO'S GOT ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIST.

WHO'S THE PERSON EVERYBODY LOOKS TO ON NEXT DOOR WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE CAN WE STORE WATER AND WHERE, WHERE DO WE HAVE ROUNDABOUTS THAT WATER DISTRIBUTION ARE HELPFUL? AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT A LOT OF US KNOW ON THE GROUND, JUST BECAUSE WE, WE SEE IT AND WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE KNOW HOW COMMUNICATION WORKS IN OUR DISTRICT.

AND SO IT KIND OF FELT, UM, A LITTLE DISJOINTED THERE WHERE WE ARE ALL GONNA HAVE A DIFFERENT COMMUNICATION PLAN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT UNDERSTANDING HOW TO LOOK TO THE, THE DEPARTMENTS AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND WHEN WE'LL GET THOSE UPDATES WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS, WAS VERY CONFUSING AT THE TIME.

UM, YES, I, UM, I AGREE WITH WHAT MIKE, UH, COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN SAYING.

UM, I WANTED TO, I THINK THE IMPLEMENTATION, UM, THE SPECIFIC IMPLEMENTATION OR REPORTING APPROACH, YOU KNOW, AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN REPORTING IS HELPFUL.

UH, WE'LL BE DOING THAT IN AUSTIN WATER.

UH, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING REPORTS FROM AUSTIN WATER ABOUT ALL THE ACTIONS THEY'RE TAKING AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND WE'LL LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW WHEN THOSE ARE HAPPENING SO YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THOSE.

NOT THAT THAT'S THE ONLY, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, AVENUE I'M JUST WANTING TO LET MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME REALLY GOOD CONVERSATIONS IN AUSTIN WATER.

AND, UM, THE INTENT IS TO CONTINUE THAT, AND ALSO TO UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY, UH, FROM AUSTIN WATER, THE TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION, SOME OF THAT WE'VE ALREADY HAD, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS DELVING INTO THINGS.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, THE, THE, UH, AMI, WHICH IS, UH, IS A REALLY VERY HELPFUL, UM, INNOVATION THAT'S BEEN ROLLING OUT.

WE'VE HAD A VERY SPECIFIC, UH, PRESENTATIONS ON THAT.

AND THAT METERING IS, IS HELP, IS GOING TO HELP THIS SITUATION HELP DURING THE LAST, UM, UH, WINTER STORM.

BUT AS IT'S ROLLED OUT ALL OVER THE CITY, IT'S REALLY GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

I ALSO WANT TO POINT YOU ALL, AND YOU MAY HAVE ALL SEEN THIS, BUT I WANTED TO THANK AUSTIN WATER FOR THE, UM, TIPS AND TOOLKITS.

THEY SENT TO ALL OF US, UM, THAT WE CAN THEN SEND OUT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS.

IT'S A VERY USEFUL SET OF TOOLS THAT WE'LL BE SENDING OUT.

AND I THINK THAT CAME TO US FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE LOOKING, UM, IT CAME TO US, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT DAY, BUT IN ANY CASE, THAT INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TO US.

AND, UM, SO I JUST WANT TO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, UH, BY AUSTIN WATER AND ALSO BY, UH, ALL OF US, ALL OF YOU IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

AND I THINK IF WE WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WITH EACH OF YOU TO HAVE A STRUCTURED REPORTING MECHANISM SO THAT WE KNOW, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHEN THE DIFFERENT, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEING ACTED ON, THAT WILL HELP US DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, UH, TO CONFIRM THAT, UM, ACTIVITIES ARE OCCURRING AND TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE OCCURRING.

SO, UM, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

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THANK YOU, MIRROR, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS ALARM WITH THE ROLLING BLACKOUTS, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE.

UH, I THINK THAT, UH, IF, IF WE WERE TO HAVE ROLLED IN BLACKOUTS, WE WOULD HAVE SAVED UP A LOT OF MORE LIVES HERE IN AUSTIN AND TRAVIS COUNTY AREA, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE NEW APPLIANCE THAT PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAD.

AND I'M SURE THAT IT'S TRUE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

YOU CAN'T TURN YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR KITCHEN ON, ON UPPING YOUR KING, YOUR, UH, YOUR FURNISHED DON'T TURN ON WITHOUT ELECTRICITY.

YOU CAN'T COOK ANYTHING WITHOUT ELECTRICITY BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE NEW STOVES HAVE THESE ELECTRONIC IGNITERS NOW.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF ENERGY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TURN IT ON.

UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH, UH, ROLLING, UH, WHICH BLACKOUTS COMPLETELY BLACKOUT WITHOUT ROLLING BLACKOUTS FOR A WHILE, UNTIL I GUESS WE GET ALL THE CIRCUITS DOWN.

I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO IDENTIFY TO THE PUBLIC WHERE THESE LOCATIONS ARE AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR THESE PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE OUT OF IT.

UH, ELECTRIC PER DAYS, YOU KNOW, TWO OR THREE DAYS, YOU KNOW, I HAVE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AREA THAT CHILD, REBECCA BAY PROCEDURES THAT THEY KEPT ON BEING TOLD THAT IT'S GOING TO COME ON THE NEXT DAY AND THE NEXT DAY.

AND THEY BELIEVED KNOW THAT, AND IT DIDN'T COME BACK ON THE NEXT DAY.

AND WE HAD TO HAVE FIREFIGHTERS GO OUT THERE AND BECKY WADE, SR, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A 200 FOOT BUILDING THERE AND ON THE 16TH FLOOR, THEY HAD TO BE CARRIED DOWN.

SO, UH, I REALLY WANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE ROLLING BLACKOUTS.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE ROLLING BLACKOUTS OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SUCH IN SYDNEY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING CENTRAL, UH, HOSPITAL FIRE STATIONS THAT NEED TO STAY ONLINE 24 HOURS A DAY, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE REALLY WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, GET DOWN AND FIND OUT WHERE ARE THE SECTIONS OF TOWN.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE THEIR ENERGY TURNED BACK ON BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE ROAMING BLACKOUT.

AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANT TO SEE, UH, IN THE FUTURE WHERE EITHER THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US THE TRUTH ABOUT WHETHER WE'RE LIVING IN A SECTION OF TOWN WHERE THEY CAN NOT BE PARTICIPATING IN A ROTOR BLACKOUTS.

THANK YOU.

UM, COLLEAGUES MIGHT A HIGHLIGHT.

I KNOW THAT THE CITY AUDITOR'S AFTER ACTION REVIEW, UM, REVIEWED THE LAST FEW AFTER ACTION REPORTS.

I WENT BACK A FEW YEARS.

UM, BUT ONE THING THAT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THERE WAS AN AFTER ACTION REPORT DONE AFTER THE 2013 HALLOWEEN FLOOD.

SO NEARLY EIGHT YEARS AGO, THAT CALLED FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN, INCLUDING SEVERAL COMMUNICATION-BASED RECOMMENDATIONS, CLARIFYING THE REGIONAL PAGING SYSTEM USED FOR THE NOTIFICATION OF THE EOC ACTIVATION, DEVELOPING A NOTIFICATION GROUP, AND FIRST TO PROVIDE REGULAR UPDATES TO MANAGEMENT AND ELECTED OFFICIALS, CONDUCTING COMMUNITY INFORMATION MEETINGS, DEVELOPING A NETWORK OF GRASSROOTS COMMUNITY CONTACTS TO HELP DISSEMINATE CRITICAL INFORMATION, COLLABORATE WITH COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS FOR CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION TO RESIDENTS.

THIS WAS FLAGGED EIGHT YEARS AGO.

I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY MORE AFTER ACTION ACTION AFTER ACTION REPORTS BEFORE THEN.

AND SO FOR ME, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THESE IMPLEMENTATIONS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE THAT WE IMPLEMENT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

AND THAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING THAT OUT TO OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE PROGRESS THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN IS MAKING TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.

I HAD A TOWN HALL RECENTLY, AND A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'M GETTING IS WHAT IS THE CITY OF AUSTIN DOING? HOW ARE Y'ALL ENSURING THAT WE DON'T FREEZE AGAIN IN OUR HOMES? UM, AND THOSE ARE, UM, THOSE ARE REAL QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW SEVERAL OF US ARE HAVING TO RESPOND TO.

AND SO IF WE CAN THINK THROUGH A FORMAT, AND THIS IS SUPER HELPFUL, HAVING ALL OF THESE AFTER ACTION REPORT, BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION THERE.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE CONFIDENTLY THAT WE ARE NOW MAKING CHANGES TO OUR CIRCUITS AND OUR LOAD SHED STRATEGY, AND HAVE IDENTIFIED WAYS TO, UH, TO PROVIDE FLEXIBLE RESPONSES TO ANOTHER EMERGENCY EVENT.

UM, AND SO MANAGER, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT WE RECEIVE REGULAR UPDATES ON PROGRESS THAT'S BEING MADE, AND ESPECIALLY

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AS IT RELATES TO ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT WILL BE NEEDED DURING A MID-YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT.

I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT.

AND THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU DIRECTOR, OR THESE IS, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, TOMORROW Y'ALL WILL BE MEETING WITH INNER AGENCIES ABOUT THE WINTER EMERGENCY PLAN.

UM, THAT'S REALLY GREAT TO HEAR.

AND, UH, SO DO WE KNOW HOW ONCE YOU ALL MEET AND I AM ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA GO OVER THE PLAN, YOU'LL PROBABLY MAKE UPDATES TO THE PLAN WITH CONSIDERATION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE AFTER-ACTION REPORT.

UM, HOW DOES, HOW DOES COUNCIL GET NOTIFIED OF ANY UPDATES THEY ALL MAKE TO THAT WINTER EMERGENCY PLAN? SO LET ME MAKE SURE I CLARIFY THE, THE SEMINAR THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE TOMORROW, UH, AS FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE THAT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS SHARE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR PORTIONS OF, OF THE OVERALL RESPONSE.

UM, IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE, WE WILL MAKE THEM, AND WE WILL SEND OUT A CORRESPONDENCE TO COUNCIL THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, UH, UH, THE, THE UPDATED CHANGES.

AND WE CAN SEND YOU A COPY OF THAT, OF THAT DOCUMENT.

AND SO, I MEAN, YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE CHANGES MADE TO THE PLAN.

I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES.

YES.

WHAT CHANGES WE'LL FIND OUT AS WE WORK THROUGH TOMORROW.

OKAY.

YES.

YEAH.

I WOULD ANTICIPATE AS WELL, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LINED OUT FROM THIS MOST RECENT AFTER-ACTION REPORT.

UM, BUT I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ARE, THAT WE HAVE THIS SPACE WITH THE DEPARTMENTS COME TOGETHER AND ARE ABLE TO SHARE, BECAUSE I THINK ON EVERYONE'S MIND IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPROACHING WINTER AGAIN.

AND SO HAVING, YOU KNOW, NOTIFICATION THAT THE PLAN HAS BEEN UPDATED, KNOWING THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY OF COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH ON OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, IS CRITICAL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO FLAG THAT AND, AND, AND LET ME ALSO ADD IF I CAN, I'M TALKING WITH THE DIFFERENT CITY DIRECTORS AND THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED TO ME HOW THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED SOME ACTIVITIES AT THE DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL.

AND SOME ARE GONNA, ARE SOME ARE SCHEDULED IN THE COMING DAYS AFTER THIS EVENT TOMORROW.

SO, UM, I SEE THE ORGANIZATION BEING MORE PROACTIVE AND LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE READY FOR THE UPCOMING WINTER WEATHER SEASON.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ISSUE, THIS POINT, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

KATHY, I'LL JOIN YOU IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW TO GET TOGETHER WITH OTHER COLLEAGUES ON THE DEZ TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE PROGRAM IN, UH, THE, KIND OF THE UPDATES ON PROGRESS BEING MADE TO, UH, THE AFTER ACTION GOALS.

AND THAT ARE, THAT ARE SET.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I JUST REGARD THIS AS A MATTER OF REAL URGENCY.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM OUR COLLEAGUES UP AND DOWN, UP AND DOWN THE DIOCESE.

AND SO MANAGER, I WOULD JUST REALLY EMPHASIZE THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY AN URGENT MATTER.

I HOPE YOU WILL PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF MANAGEMENT OVERSIGHT AND RESOURCES THAT OUR STAFF NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BETTER PREPARED.

MARY, THANK YOU.

AND I'LL KEEP MY THREE IMMEDIATE POINTS SHORT BECAUSE I LISTENED TO THE CONVERSATION A LOT WAS COVERED, BUT IN REVIEWING THE AUDITORS REPORT FOR ME SEEING HOW LOW SOME OF THE WAR IN CENTRAL TEXAS REGISTRATION RATES ARE IN SOME OF OUR COMMUNITIES THAT CAN BE HARDEST HIT BY DISASTER WAS REALLY CONCERNING.

AND I THINK WE HAVE TO FIND OTHER WAYS THAT ARE NOT JUST OPT-IN OR APP DOWNLOADED TO GET THAT INFORMATION.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE TRAVELED RECENTLY AND WHEN THEY LAND IN SOME STATES, THEY GET A TEXT IMMEDIATELY, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE ABOUT PANDEMIC RESTRICTIONS AND OTHER KINDS OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

SO JUST SOMEWHERE WHERE I REALLY THINK WE NEED WORK, BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN RELY ON IT ON, ON A WARREN AND, AND OF ITSELF, THEN SECOND, YOU KNOW, READING IN THE AUDITOR'S REPORT, THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT WE WENT BETWEEN OUR FIRST WARREN MESSAGE AND OUR FIRST MESSAGE IN SPANISH MULTIPLE DAYS LATER, I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN HIGHLIGHTED.

I KNOW THAT IT'S AN ISSUE, BUT JUST SEEING IT WRITTEN DOWN HOW MANY DAYS THERE WERE, UM, IT WAS JUST REALLY DISAPPOINTING.

I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO COORDINATE SUCH A BIG THING, BUT, YOU KNOW, IN MY OWN COUNCIL OFFICE, WE WERE DOING THE TRANSLATIONS OURSELVES AND WE WERE A TEAM OF FOUR.

UM, AND WE KNOW THE CITY HAS MUCH BROADER RESOURCES THAN THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT PART AS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST HAVE TO DO DIFFERENT.

AND I KNOW IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE HALLOWEEN FLOOD REPORTS ON HOW WE CAN HANDLE COMMUNICATIONS.

AND THEN THIRD AND LAST, I APPRECIATE THE AUSTIN ENERGY WORK ON, UH, WORKING WITH COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS TO VOLUNTARILY RAMP DOWN.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS NOTED IN ONE OF THE MULTIPLE REPORTS FOR US TO HAVE A VOLUNTARY WAY TO ADDRESS ISSUES DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S A COMPLEX SYSTEM AND A DOWNTOWN SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK IF WE WANT PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN TO CONSERVE, HAVING DOWNTOWN ALL LIT UP, WE REALLY LEARNED, SENDS THE WRONG MESSAGE.

AND SO HAVING REALLY CLOSE PARTNERSHIPS THERE TO BE ABLE TO RAMP THAT DOWN, I THINK IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE AWAY

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FOR ANY FUTURE.

UM, FOR ANY FUTURE OUTAGE SITUATION, UM, ON COUNCIL MEMBER, CASSARA JUST GIVE A QUICK ANSWER TO THE FIRST POINT YOU BROUGHT UP.

AND IT WAS A VERY, VERY, UM, UH, KEY POINT.

YOU, YOU, YOU HIGHLIGHTED ACTUALLY THE SYSTEM THAT WE USE IS A PART OF A 10 COUNTY SYSTEM THROUGH THE COUNCILS, THE GOVERNMENTS.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT, AND WE INDICATED THIS ON THE, ON THE AFTER ACTION REPORT, THE AUDITOR WAS INDICATING ON THE SELF UP IN REGISTRATIONS.

THAT GIVES YOU THE MOST VERSATILITY AND UTILIZING THAT NOTIFICATION TOOL.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO IN THERE AND SAY, I WANT TO BE NOTIFIED FOR WINTER FREEZE WARNINGS, TORNADO WARNINGS, FLOOD WARNINGS.

WE ENCOURAGE, AND WE WANT EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO SIGN UP FOR THOSE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WORKING OUR OFFICE, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS, UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE ACQUIRED A MORE ROBUST DATABASE THAT ALLOWS US TO SEND OUT TEXT NOTIFICATIONS OR RING DOWN NOTIFICATIONS THAT ARE, WERE CRYING, THAT WE ARE ACQUIRING AND MAKING AVAILABLE OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL OPT IN.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE DATA, UH, IT'S ABOVE 50% AND WE'RE PROBABLY ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.

AND THAT HAS GIVEN US THE ABILITY, ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, WHEN WE HAVE UTILIZED THE TOOL TO BRING DOWN, HAVE A MUCH GREATER PENETRATION, I'M GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT NOW, THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AND THERE'S ROOM FOR US TO IMPROVE ALSO IN HOW WE'RE UTILIZING THOSE TOOLS.

AND SO, YES, WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE ISSUES.

OKAY.

HOLLY'S ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH MANAGER.

THANK YOU.

UH, IT'S 1215, UH, WE TO BREAK FOR LUNCH UNTIL ONE AT ONE O'CLOCK.

HOW ABOUT IF WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION,

[E. Executive Session]

SEE IF WE CAN TAKE CARE OF ONE, TWO THINGS ON THAT.

I THINK SOME WILL, MAY GO QUICKLY.

WE'LL START WITH THE CLERK, SEE IF WE CAN GET THE OTHER TWO IN I'M TOLD THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THAT LONG.

WE'LL SEE WE'LL COME OUT.

UM, UH, ONE 30 OR CLOSE TO ONE 30.

LET'S SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DO THE AUSTIN ENERGY MEETING.

UH, AND THAT ENABLES US THEN AFTER THE AUSTIN ENERGY MEETING TO FINISH EXECUTIVE SESSION, IF WE NEED TO, OR TO HEAR THE TWO REMAINING REPORTS THAT WE HAVE, UH, AND REMEMBER WE HAVE A FIVE O'CLOCK HARD STOP TO RECOVER.

JUDGE COFFEE, OR JUDGE COFFEE WAS HERE EARLIER.

DO WE HAVE A SCHEDULED? I KNOW YOU, YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THE REPORTS THAT WE HAD, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T START THE OTHER BRIEFINGS UNTIL WHAT DO YOU THINK? TWO 30.

YEAH, HARD FOR ME TO IMAGINE THAT THE OTHER TWO FEEDS WOULD START BEFORE TWO 30.

AND WHICH ONE ARE WE GOING TO START WITH? UH, I THINK THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT IS THE FIRST ONE OF THOSE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

EXECUTIVE SESSION VIRTUAL, YOU HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WILL BE VIRTUAL.

OKAY.

YOU JUST SAID IT, BUT WHAT TIME ARE WE COMING? ONE O'CLOCK FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO TAKE UP THREE ITEMS PURSUANT TO 5, 5, 1 DAUGHTER'S SEVEN FOR THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO EVE FOR THE APPOINTMENT COMPENSATION BENEFITS OF THE INTERIM CITY CLERK PURSUANT TO 5, 5, 1 0 7, 1 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE'RE GOING DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO EAT TO, UH, INTERNET STREAMING VIDEO SERVICES, UH, E THREE, THE, UH, TEXAS OPIOID, UH, MULTI-DISTRICT LITIGATION COLLEAGUES, UH, B VIRTUAL WE'LL GO ON EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ONE O'CLOCK, UH, LET'S TAKE, UH, TEMPERATURES WHILE WE'RE IN THE ROOM.

SEE HOW WE'RE RUNNING THROUGH THAT SCHEDULE, BUT WE'LL GET BACK OUT AS CLOSE ONE 30 AS WE CAN FOR THE EXACT, FOR THE AUSTIN ENERGY MEETING, UH, AND, UH, UH, CHAIR, UH, OBVIOUSLY AS ALWAYS A LOT OF REPORTS ON I THINK, 10 ITEMS TODAY.

UM, IF THERE'S A WAY TO MOVE THROUGH THAT.

WELL, BUT EXPEDITIOUS DAY LET'S DO THAT.

SO WE HAVE THE OTHER TWO REPORTS, BUT IT'S THE TIME FOR AUSTIN ENERGY.

I, WITH THAT, UH, IT IS, UH, 1220.

WE'LL SEE YOU BACK IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AT ONE O'CLOCK.

ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE, UM, WE'RE OUT OF CLOSED SESSION IN CLOSED SESSION.

WE DISCUSSED PERSONNEL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM E FOUR AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE ITEMS E TWO AND E THREE E ONE WAS WITHDRAWN.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS OUR RECESS.

THE COUNCIL MEETING MOVING RIGHT ALONG HERE.

IT IS 3 42.

I'M GOING TO RECONVENE THE AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

UH, WE HAVE A QUORUM, UH, WE ONLY HAVE TWO THINGS THAT ARE LEFT FOR US TO, UH,

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REPORTS.

ONE IS, UH, UH, SOUTH CENTRAL.

THE OTHER ONE IS THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY, CORDLESS

[B1. Update on South Central Waterfront]

DHARMA, SOUTH CENTRAL.

AND LET'S SEE HOW FAR WE GET HARD-STOP AT FIVE O'CLOCK AUSTIN ENERGY STAFF.

THANK YOU.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

UM, THIS NEXT BRIEFING FOR YOU IS AN UPDATE ON OUR COLONY PARK AND SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLANS, AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, THESE ARE EXCITING PROJECTS WITH LONG HISTORIES, INCLUDING, UH, NUMEROUS PRIOR STAFF, MEMORANDUMS PRESENTATIONS TO COUNCIL AND PRIOR COUNCIL ACTIONS.

TODAY'S BRIEFING REFLECTS A CONTINUED STRONG PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT RELATED TO BOTH THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT AND THE COLONY PARK VISION PLANS.

UM, THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS RESPONSIVE TO TWO COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE PASSED JUST LAST MONTH.

AND IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I'LL JUST QUICKLY SUMMARIZE, UH, THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED, THE FIRST RESOLUTION DIRECTED STAFF TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL THIS YEAR WITH A PRELIMINARY PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING PLAN FOR THE CREATION OF A SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT TOURS.

UM, THEY ALSO TOLD US TO LOOK AT, UM, DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR WHAT WE, HOW WE SET THE TAX PARTICIPATION LEVEL AND TO DESIGN THE TOURS, TO RECAPTURE SOME PORTION OF THE, BUT FOR INCREMENTAL VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

AND WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT, BUT FOR INCREMENTAL VALUE, AS WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, I'M ALSO DIRECTION TO COLLABORATE WITH THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, UM, WITH THEM ON THIS, UH, TOURS DISCUSSION.

UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THE RESOLUTION SPOKE TO PROVIDING COUNSEL WITH A PLAN AND SCHEDULE FOR CREATING A TOLERANT COLONY PARK TOURS.

UM, NEXT CALENDAR YEAR, THE SECOND RESOLUTION, IF WE WENT ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WAS SIMILAR, BUT, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE BROAD SPOKE ABOUT PROVIDING COUNSEL AND UPDATE ON A TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE OR A CHURCH OR OTHER FINANCIAL MECHANISMS TO PAY FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND AMENITIES IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN, UM, TO PROVIDE A PLAN FOR ACHIEVING THAT FINANCIAL MECHANISM BY THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, UM, ALSO TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE REGULATORY PLAN FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT AREA.

AND, UM, AND THEN REITERATED THE DIRECTION FROM THE PRIOR RESOLUTION TO COME UP WITH A, UH, A PLAN FOR DOING A COLONY PARK TOURS DURING CALENDAR YEAR 2022 TODAY'S PRESENTATION CHECKS THE BOX ON MUCH OF THIS COUNCIL DIRECTION.

THE FINANCING PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS PRIMARILY ON THE POTENTIAL CREATION OF A CHURCH FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL AREA.

UM, I DO WANT TO SAY UPFRONT THAT EVEN WITH TAX INCREMENT FINANCING STAFF PROJECTS, THAT THERE WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING GAP FOR THE NEEDED, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, MEANING THAT ADDITIONAL WORK WILL STILL NEED TO BE DONE TO IDENTIFY OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS, UM, UM, TO, TO PAY FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR TO REDUCE THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.

AND THAT THAT'S WORK, THAT KIND OF STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO DO, UM, LOOKING TO RESPOND TO THE DIRECTION, TO COME BACK WITH, UH, A FULL FINANCIAL MECHANISM BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

UH, SO I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER NOW.

I BELIEVE, UH, VERONICA IS ONLINE, UM, TO WALK US THROUGH THE AGENDA FOR THE DAY AND, AND TO COVER THE, UM, THE UPDATES FOR COLONY PARK AND THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT AREA.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MARIN COUNCIL, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

UH, SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH A SERIES OF SLIDES WITH YOU.

WE'LL START WITH AN UPDATE ON COLONY PARK, FOLLOWING AN UPDATE ON SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN OVERVIEW, AS WELL AS THE PHYSICAL FRAMEWORK AND COST ESTIMATES, THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, KIM KIMBERLY ONLY VITAS IS TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCING COMPONENTS OF IT, THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING OPTIONS, THE POTENTIAL TIF, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERMARK, SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT MARKET AND TIFF DEBT ANALYSIS AND THEIR PRELIMINARY TOURIST FINANCING PLAN.

THEN WE WILL, UH, HAVE ROSIE TRUE LOVE OUR HOUSING AND PLANNING DIRECTOR, WALK US THROUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS AS WELL AS THE REGULATING PLAN UPDATES.

AND THEN ED WILL CLOSE US OUT WITH NEXT STEPS.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO STARTING OFF WITH COLONY PARK, HAVE THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO AS, UH, AS A UPDATE, OUR REMINDER, THE COLONY PART, SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY

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PUBLIC FINANCE STRATEGY INCLUDES A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT TO US IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY AS A WHOLE, UM, INCLUDING MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, OUR PROJECT OVERVIEW OF THIS PROJECT, IT'S 280 208 ACRES OF CITY OWNED LAND AND NORTHEAST AUSTIN MIXED USE AND MIXED INCOME RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

IT INCLUDES OVER 10 YEARS OF COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDER SUPPORT AND THE PROPOSED GREEN LINE AS WELL AS PURPLE LINE ALIGNMENT ARE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THIS COMMUNITY, THE APPROVED MASTER PLAN AND PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF 2014, INCLUDES 20% AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF PARKS, OPEN SPACE AND TRAILS, AND THE AUSTIN ENERGY GREEN BUILDING PROGRAM RATED BUILDINGS.

SOME OF THE KEY DATES AND WILD STONES THAT HAVE, UH, BEEN IMPORTANT TO THIS PROJECT INCLUDE IN MAY, 2020 WHEN THE EXECUTED EXCLUSIVE NEGOTIATION AGREEMENT WITH CATALYST DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED IN SEPTEMBER, 2021.

WE AUTHORIZE THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WITH CENTRAL HEALTH FOR 2.3 ACRES FOR A HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.

AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE'S A HEALTH DESERT IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO AUTHORIZED INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE TELUS FOR CENTRAL HEALTH PUBLIC STREET AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE CONSTRUCTION.

UM, THE ESTIMATED INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING GAP IS AT $125 MILLION.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING FINANCING, THE CANOLA'S PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND FINANCING GAP RECOMMENDATIONS AS OF MAY OF 2021, OUR CHAIN INCREASED DENSITY THROUGH THE PEDIMENT LOWER INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, LEVERAGED CITY PARTICIPATION WITH CIP VALUE, CIP VALUE CAPTURE MECHANISM, AND APPROXIMATELY $25 MILLION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE REDUCTIONS AND RECOMMENDED PUT AMENDMENT.

THE PUBLIC FINANCE STRATEGY DRAFT INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY $25 MILLION, UH, FROM A TAX INCREMENT, UH, REINVESTMENT ZONE RETURNERS, APPROXIMATELY $15 MILLION FROM A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

AND THIS IS PENDING LEGAL REVIEW AND APPROXIMATELY 60 MILLION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, PROJECT FUNDING, UH, CURRENTLY UNIDENTIFIED SOME OF THE ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY $540 MILLION IN PROPERTY VALUE, APPROXIMATELY 3.5 MILLION IN ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX AND SALES TAX REVENUE, APPROXIMATELY 2,900 CONSTRUCTION JOBS AND 1200 PERMANENT JOBS, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER DEVELOPMENT WITH CENTRAL HEALTH THAT I MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND NOW AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH AND AUSTIN PUBLIC LIBRARY CO-LOCATED WITH CENTRAL HEALTH, AS WELL AS RETAIL DEVELOPMENT.

THE OVERALL RECOMMENDATION FOR FINANCING WILL COME TO COUNCIL IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2022.

AND I MENTIONED ON THE FRONT END THAT THIS IS THE WORK OF MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

AND YOU SEE IN THESE TWO SLIDES, I'LL, UH, MANY OF OUR SISTER DEPARTMENTS HAVE COME TO THE TABLE TO HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF THEIR SUPPORT NEXT LIGHT.

SO SWITCHING OVER TO SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, AS I MENTIONED, I'VE ALSO DISCUSSED AN OVERVIEW OF THE VISION PLAN AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KIMBERLY OLIVAREZ.

SO PLAN OVERVIEW, UM, THE, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION PLAN ESTABLISHES CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORK TO ALLOW SITE-SPECIFIC BUILDING ENHANCEMENTS AND EXCHANGE FOR ONSITE AND CITY-WIDE COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

IT LAYS OUT A SET OF TOOLS TO GUIDE AREA REDEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

IT INCLUDES 97 ACRES IN THE DISTRICT, 118 ACRES WITH RIGHT AWAY, 34 PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTIES, AND ONE CITY OWNED PROPERTY WHEN TEXAS CENTER.

IT ALSO INCLUDES THE, UH, PROPOSED BLUE LINE ALIGNMENT AND ORANGE LINE ALIGNMENT WITH AN UNDERGROUND STOP AND A ONE-STOP WITH THE BLUE LINE ALIGNMENT AND SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THE WATERFRONT PLANNING.

IT DOES THE HISTORY DATE DOES DATE QUITE A BIT BACK STARTING IN THE 1960S AND THE SEVENTIES WITH THE CREATION OF LADY BIRD LAKE, FORMERLY TOWN LAKE, AND THE 1980S, THERE WAS A TOWN LAKE CORRIDOR STUDY AND WATERFRONT OVERLAY COMBINING DISTRICT FROM 2012 TO 2013, A SUSTAINABLE PLACES DESIGN ASSESSMENT FROM 2014 TO 2016, 19 PUBLIC EVENTS, AND THREE COUNCIL BRIEFINGS WERE, WERE HELD, UH, WHICH RESULTED IN THE INTERIM SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN IN 2016 EPA SCREENING OF SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT REPORT OUTLINES THE VISION OUTLINED THE VISION IN 2016 CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION FRAMEWORK PLAN AS AN AMENDMENT TO IMAGINE AUSTIN AND IN 2020 STAFF AS UPDATING THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PHYSICAL FRAMEWORK, PROJECT COST AND FINANCIAL CALCULATOR.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO THE 2016 ADOPTED VISION

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FRAMEWORK INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 17 ACRES OF PARKS, PLAZAS OPEN SPACES AND TRAILS 1.5 MILES OF REEFER REFURBISH, NEW MULTIMODAL STREETS, 6.4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF NEW CONSTRUCTION, APPROXIMATELY 2,800 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH A GOAL OF 20 20% TO BE AFFORDABLE AT 60 TO 80% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR RENTALS AND 80 TO 120%, A MEDIUM MFI FOR OWNERSHIP UNITS.

WE WENT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CRITICAL IMPLEMENTATION STEPS AND THE, AND THE CHART TO THE RIGHT, THE REGULATING PLAN, UH, OUTLINING OPT-IN ZONING REGULATIONS IS UNDERWAY.

THE PUBLIC FINANCING TOOLS SUCH AS THE T THE TIF AND THE PIT ARE UNDERWAY.

THE CREATION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ENTITY TO OVERSEE IMPLEMENTATION.

I COMPLETED IT.

IT WAS COMPLETED IN 2020 BY THE CREATION OF THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

AND THEN AS ED MENTIONED IN HIS INTRODUCTION, WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE AEDC, UM, AND, AND DISCUSSING THIS PLAN.

AND AS WE'RE MAKING, UH, ARE MAKING PROGRESS, LOOKING AT THE EDC ABC'S ROLE IN THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT, THE CREATION OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY REPORT WAS COMPLETED IN 2017 LEVERAGING CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AT ONE TEXAS CENTER TO HELP MEET THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CREATE NEW CITY OFFICE SPACE.

THIS IS UNDERWAY, UH, AND THEN IDENTIFY A LEAD CITY DEPARTMENT TO COORDINATE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT IMPLEMENTATION.

UH, THIS ALSO WAS COMPLETED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS NAMES OF THE LEAD DEPARTMENT, WHICH BECAME EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 21ST, 2021.

NEXT SLIDE, THE MODIFIED PHYSICAL FRAMEWORK COST ASSESSMENT.

SO I SHOULD PREFACE THIS, BUT THIS IS A, AN ESTIMATE.

UH, THIS IS THE RESULT OF, UH, UH, WORK WITH A CONSULTANT THAT WORKED WITH MANY MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS IN 2020, UM, TO, TO ESTIMATE THESE AMOUNTS AND STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO UPDATE THE AMOUNTS, BUT IT IS A, IT IS AN ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT.

UH, THE ESTIMATES DO NOT INCLUDE FUNDS NEEDED TO MEET AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOAL OR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF AMENITIES.

COSTUMED ESTIMATES ARE CURRENT CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW, AS I'D MENTIONED.

SO THE OVERALL ESTIMATE IS AT $277 MILLION AFAR WITH OPEN SPACES AT 93.7 ROADWAY IN DATE DRAINAGE AT 83.4 STREETSCAPES AT 56.3 UTILITIES AT 35.7 GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AT 5.5 AND RECLAIMED WATER AT 2.4, NEXT SLIDE.

AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO KIMBERLY ONLY, BUT AS TO WALK THROUGH THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING OPTIONS, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL KIM ALAVAREZ, DEPUTY CFO, BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE SPECIFICS OF A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING SET UP, I WANTED TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE VARIOUS FINANCING TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US OVERALL TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

UM, FIRST THERE ARE EXISTING DEPARTMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM APPROPRIATIONS, UM, THAT COULD INCLUDE A MIX OF, UH, VOTER CURRENT REVENUE FUNDED APPROPRIATION, AS WELL AS VOTER APPROVED BONDS.

UH, THERE'S ALSO THE HOUSING TRUST FUND.

WE CAN ALSO BE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEW VOTER APPROVED BOND PROGRAM IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

UH, WE MIGHT ALSO LOOK AT ECONOMIC INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, UM, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT IN DISTRICT, BUT WITH A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT PARCEL OWNER SUPPORT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

UM, SIMILARLY WITH THE MUNICIPAL MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, NOT ONLY INCLUDES A REQUIREMENT FOR PARCEL INNER SUPPORT, IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES STATE LEGISLATION TO ESTABLISH IT.

AND THEN FINALLY LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, UM, WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY ULTIMATELY RESULT IN A TAX CREDIT FINANCING PLAN.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS A TOOL THAT A STATE LAW PROVIDES US TO SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH IN AN AREA IN WHICH DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT IS UNLIKELY TO OCCUR.

UM, WITHOUT THAT PUBLIC INVESTMENT, UM, IT IS NOT A NEW TAX.

UH, INSTEAD IT'S A DEDICATION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FROM A VERY SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC AREA TO PAY FOR IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT ZONE.

UM, IN TEXAS ONLY A CITY OR A COUNTY CAN CREATE, UH, TOURS, UH, UPON CREATION.

YOU ESTABLISH THE BASELINE VALUE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE ZONE.

IT FREEZES THAT, AND THEN SOME OR ALL OF THE TAX REVENUE, UM, FROM FUTURE GROWTH IN PROPERTY VALUE WITHIN THAT ZONE, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE TAX INCREMENT, UM, IS COLLECTED AND THEN DEDICATED TO FUND THE COST OF THE VARIOUS INVESTMENTS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO SPUR THAT GROWTH.

NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS A GRAPHIC THAT, OR AN IMAGE THAT WE USE PRETTY REGULARLY TO HELP ILLUSTRATE ALL OF THE WORDS I JUST SAID ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UM, YOU'LL NOTE IN THE LIGHT BLUE

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COLOR, THAT IS WHERE IS THE BASELINE TAXABLE VALUE THAT PINK SECTION IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE, WHAT KIND OF GROWTH YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE TO SEE IN A ZONE, REGARDLESS OF ANY SORT OF INVESTMENT, BECAUSE GROWTH DOES OCCUR REGULARLY THROUGHOUT THE, UH, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

BUT WITH THAT PUBLIC INVESTMENT, YOU ANTICIPATE A GREATER DEGREE OF GROWTH.

AND THAT IS WHAT IS DEMONSTRATED IN THE YELLOW SECTION, ESSENTIALLY THE, BUT FOR ASPECT OR FOR VALUE CAPTURE FOR TOURS.

NOW, IT TURNS DOES HAVE A, AN END DATE WHEN IT'S ESTABLISHED, WHEN THAT END DATE IS REACHED, THEN ALL THE TAXABLE VALUE AND THE REVENUE COLLECTED AGAINST THAT VALUE RETURNS BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.

NEXT SLIDE, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO A TIF.

UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU HAVE TO ESTABLISH VERY CLEAR AND SIGNIFICANT, BUT FOR CRITERION, UM, RELATED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR THAT PUBLIC INVESTMENT THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT WOULD NOT OCCUR THROUGH PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THE AREA, SOME OF THE CRITERIA AND INCLUDES, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT LIMITED TO, UH, THE PER PRESENT CONDITION OF THE ZONE IS SUBSTANTIALLY IMPAIRS GROWTH.

THERE ARE SUBSTANDARD OR DETERIORATING INFRASTRUCTURE OR STRUCTURES THERE'S INADEQUATE SIDEWALKS OR STREET LAYOUT, OR POSSIBLY UNSANITARY UNSAFE CONDITIONS OR CONDITIONS THAT ACTUALLY MIGHT ENDANGER LIFE OR PROPERTY.

UM, WHEN, ONCE YOU HAVE PAID ALL OF THE PROJECT COSTS OR ANY DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TOURS, THAT IS WHEN THE TOUR'S IS RETIRED IN THE TERM ENDS.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, PREVIOUSLY THAT PROPERTY TAX REVENUE WOULD RETURN TO THE CITY FOR GENERAL PURPOSES.

NEXT SLIDE, IN ADDITION TO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, UH, COUNCIL ADOPTED THROUGH THE FY 20 BUDGET, A FINANCIAL POLICY, UM, RELATED TO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

UM, SOME OF THE MAJOR PROVISIONS INCLUDE, UM, THAT THERE MUST BE PARTICIPATION BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND OR OTHER TAX ENTITIES, UM, IN THAT PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN, THE CITY MUST CONDUCT A RIGOROUS, BUT FOR ANALYSIS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE, THE ZONE IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, UM, AND PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT ALSO THAT ANY HOUSING DEVELOP THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PART OF THE TIF MUST PROVIDE FOR AT LEAST 20% OF THE UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS AT, OR BELOW 60% MFI FOR RENTAL OR 80% MFI FOR OWNERSHIP.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY BONDS ISSUE TO FUND THESE DEBT.

THE TIF DEVELOPMENT ARE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO VARIOUS COVERAGE TESTS, DEBT, SERVICE, RESERVE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEY MUST MATURE ON OR BEFORE THE TERMINATION DATE OF THE ZONE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE ZIMMER'S THE LIFE OF YOUR DEBT MUST BE 20 YEARS, NEXT SLIDE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STEPS REQUIRED BEFORE YOU CAN ESTABLISH A CHURCH.

UM, FIRST WE NEED PREPARE A PRELIMINARY, UH, FINANCING PLAN.

WE THEN NEED TO PUBLISH A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE ON THE NEWSPAPER.

ONCE YOU'VE HELD THAT HEARING, UM, STAFF MUST ALSO PROVIDE A SERIES OF INFORMATION, INCLUDING WHAT THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ZONE WOULD BE THE AMOUNT OF BONDS AND TENDED TO BE ISSUED A PERCENTAGE OF TAX INCREMENT THAT WOULD BE CONTRIBUTED BY THE CITY OR ANY OTHER PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITY, AS WELL AS ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS.

UM, COUNCIL WOULD THEN VOTE ON THAT REINVESTMENT ZONE ORDINANCE AND THEN ESTABLISH A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, BASED ON THE DIRECTION WE'VE RECEIVED AND WHAT WE, THE PLAN WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY BRING THAT BACK.

ALL OF THOSE STEPS BACK TO YOU ON DECEMBER 9TH.

NEXT SLIDE, ONCE THAT ZONE HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL STEPS.

UM, FIRST THE ZONES BOARD OF DIRECTORS MUST PREPARE THAT PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN THAT WOULD THEN BE VOTED ON BY THE BOARD AND THEN SENT TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS REVIEW AND, UM, UH, A VOTE.

UM, IT MUST ALSO ESTABLISH INCREMENT DEDICATION BY OTHER TAXING UNITS WITHIN THE ZONE, IF APPLICABLE.

UM, RIGHT NOW THE, UM, THE ONLY OTHER ZONE THAT HAS A, UH, ANOTHER PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITY IS THE WALNUT CREEK TIF.

UM, FOR THE ORIGINAL PORTION OF IT, THE T THE COUNTY DOES PARTICIPATE.

UH, THE ZONE'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS MUST TAKE, MUST MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL ON IMPLEMENTING THE TIF.

UM, AND THEN THE COUNCIL WOULD THEN PROVIDE, UM, THE BOARD, THE POWERS TO, TO EXERCISE, UM, UM, BY ORDINANCE.

AND THEN FINALLY, WE MUST SUBMIT AN ANNUAL REPORT WITH AN 150 DAYS OF FISCAL YEAR END TO THE CEO OF EACH TAXING UNIT.

UM, UM, AS WELL AS THE STATE COMPTROLLER THAT PROVIDES A VARIETY OF INFORMATION THAT I WILL NOT READ OFF TO YOU.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO IN PREPARATION OF, UH, UH, POSSIBLE TOURS FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT, UM, WE DID CON CONTRACT WITH A CONSULTANT

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TO CONDUCT A MARKET ANALYSIS OF THE AREA.

UM, HIS ANALYSIS DID COME BACK SAYING THAT IT DOES SUPPORT, UM, BUT FEASIBILITY OF THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT FRAMEWORK, UM, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OVER THE 20 YEAR PERIOD, YOU CAN SEE THAT HE NOTES THAT THE ANTICIPATED BASE YEAR VALUE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 825 MILLION GROWTH OVER THE 20 YEARS, UM, WOULD BE JUST UNDER 3 BILLION, NOT RELATED TO, UM, TO TERS INVESTMENTS.

AND THEN JUST OVER $4 BILLION IN VALUE OVER THE 20 YEARS WOULD BE, BUT RELATED TO THE, BUT FOR VALUE.

UM, WHEN IN ADDITION TO THE VALUE PROJECTIONS THAT THE CONSULTANT PROVIDED, UM, HE ALSO PROVIDED A DIFFERENT, A NUMBER OF, UH, COMMENTS AND COMMENTARY ON VARIOUS CONDITIONS OF BOTH OFFICE MARKET AND THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET, UM, REGARDING RENTAL AVERAGE RENTAL RATES, UM, TENANT MIXES, UM, THE OCCUPANCY AND RENTAL RATES FOR BOTH, UH, APARTMENT AND MULTI-FAMILY AS WELL AS FOR ATTACHED HOUSING, WHAT KIND OF SALES RATES YOU'RE SEEING.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK PRETTY IN DEPTH AT WHAT ABSORPTION CAPABILITIES THE ZONE HAS BASED ON THOSE DIFFERENT, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT TYPES.

NEXT SLIDE, NOW THAT WE HAVE THOSE, THAT VALUE PROJECTION IN THAT MARKET ANALYSIS, WE CAN CONDUCT THE TIF ANALYSIS.

UM, SO WITHIN THE TOURIST DISTRICT BOUNDARY, UM, WE WOULD, WE LOOK AT, UM, THE BOUNDARY, LESS NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS RECENTLY BEEN COMPLETED.

UM, WE ALL THIS, BY DOING THIS BY REMOVING THAT MOST RECENTLY COMPLETED, UM, JUST CONSTRUCTION.

IT ACTUALLY STRENGTHENS OUR, BUT FOR ARGUMENT, BECAUSE CLEARLY THAT A DEVELOPMENT OCCURRED WITHOUT OUR INVESTMENT, UM, AND WOULD NOT MEET THAT, BUT FOR, UM, THAT STRONG, BUT FOUR CRITERIA AS I'VE NOTED IN PREVIOUS SLIDES IS NOT ONLY REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, BUT OUR ALSO COUNSEL FINANCIAL POLICY.

BUT IF WE DO ISSUE BONDS FOR PART OF THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT, WE DO HAVE TO GO TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE BONDS.

UM, THE REVIEW FROM THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS GOTTEN MORE INTENSE IN RECENT YEARS.

SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT, BUT FOR, UM, ASPECT VERY EASILY FOR THE RECAPTURE PERCENT, UM, WE WOULD EXCLUDE THE AUSTIN TRANSIT PARTNERSHIP PORTION OF OUR TAX RATE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE O AND M RATE.

UM, WE WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND LIMITING THE CITY PORTION OF THE TAX RATE ONLY TO THE, TO ONLY THE ADDITIONAL INCREMENT THAT WOULD HAVE WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT.

AND THAT'S EQUATES TO ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 50%, 55% OF PROJECTED REVENUE GROWTH, NOT THE TAX GROWTH, BUT THE REVENUE, NOT THE VALUE GROWTH, BUT THE REVENUE GROWTH.

UM, AND THEN WE ALSO ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE ON WHETHER WE CAN EXCLUDE THE DEBT PORTION OF THE TAX RATE IN, IN THOSE, IN THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, BASED ON THIS ANALYSIS, THE BONDING CAPACITY, UM, FOR THE, THE T THE TERS OVER THE 20 YEARS IS SUBJECT TO JUST UNDER $154 MILLION IN REVENUE CAPTURE THAT RESULTS IN A DEBT CAPACITY, APPROXIMATELY $95.5 MILLION.

UM, BUT AS NEW CONSTRUCTION OCCURS IN THOSE INITIAL YEARS, WHAT KIND OF THE REVENUE THAT IS CREATED IN THE TOURS WOULD COME NOWHERE CLOSE TO WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, MAKING IN TERMS OF DEBT, SERVICE PAYMENTS.

UM, SO WE WOULD NEED TO BE LOOKING AT, UM, A BIT WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE TO BASICALLY BACKSTOP, UM, OR IF WE CAN PHASE ISSUANCES, WHAT ARE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WOULD BE TO, TO MINIMIZE THAT IMPACT, BUT EVEN WITH MINIMIZING THAT IMPACT, WE WOULD, WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A FUNDING GAP, NEXT SLIDE FOR THE, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION, RELIGION, WHAT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO FUND THROUGH THE TIF, UM, WITH $95.5 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY THAT CLEARLY DOES NOT EQUATE TO 277 MILLION OF THE ESTIMATED COST FOR THOSE, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT IS NOT SUFFICIENT TO FUND IT ALL.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND IDENTIFYING SUBSETS OF PROJECTS WITHIN THE FINANCING PLAN.

WE'RE EXPLORING A TIERED CONCEPT, UM, BASED ON FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM, UH, ADVISORS THAT WE HAVE ON, ON CONTRACT FOR TIFFS AND PIDS, THEY HAVE NOTED THAT YOU CAN CREATE TIERS BASED ON A, A CATEGORY OF PROJECTS, FOR EXAMPLE, STREETS OR DRAINAGE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO MAKE A, UH, A TIER BASED ON A GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WITHIN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT AREA, THERE IS AN AREA CALLED THE WATERFRONT DOWNTOWN GATEWAY.

SO WE COULD FOCUS OUR INVESTMENTS IN A CERTAIN AREA, UM, BETWEEN NOW, AND WHEN WE'D COME BACK TO COUNCIL IN DECEMBER, UM, STAFF WILL BE COLLABORATING ON, ON WHAT, WHAT TIERS IT WOULD RECOMMEND TO INCLUDE IN THAT FINAL PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO ROSIE TRUELOVE

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TO SPEAK TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.

AND I GET THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

HELLO, ROSIE, TRUE LOVE, UH, DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

UM, THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT PLAN CALLS FOR 20% AFFORDABLE HOUSING OVERALL WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

WE DID ENVISION THIS AS A DISTRICT WIDE GOAL AND RECOGNIZE THAT SOME PARCELS COULD COME IN WITH HOUSING, BUT WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT LESS THAN 20%, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL TIP POLICY STATES THAT ANY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PART OF A TIF PROJECT PLAN MUST PROVIDE, OR AT LEAST 20% OF THE UNITS TO BE AFFORDABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING AT, OR BELOW 60% OF MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR RENTAL HOUSING AND 80% OF THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME FOR OWNERSHIP HOUSING FOR AT LEAST THE DURATION OF THE TIP PROJECT PLAN, THE ESTIMATED COST OF MEETING 20% AFFORDABILITY WITHIN THE DISTRICT FAR EXCEEDS THE AVAILABLE TOUR'S REVENUE.

UH, THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE OTHER FORMS OF GAP FINANCING AND, AND FORMATION OF A CAPITAL STACK.

IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT SUPPORT OR MODIFICATION TO THE GOALS AND POLICIES.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE ARE ALSO WORKING PROACTIVELY ON THE REGULATING PLAN, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE REGULATING PLAN WILL CONTROL THE PHYSICAL BUILD-OUT.

IT LAYS OUT THE PUBLIC BENEFITS AND DEVELOPER INCENTIVES.

THESE DEVELOPER INCENTIVES, UH, INCLUDE POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL DENSITY IN RETURN FOR PROVISION OF COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

UH, IT INCLUDES REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDED BY PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS THAT UTILIZE BONUS ENTITLEMENTS, AS WELL AS STREETS BLOCKS, OPEN-SPACE STREETSCAPE FRONTAGE, AND BUILDING PLACEMENT, BUILDING HEIGHT, LAND USES PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION AND IMPERVIOUS COVER.

UM, THE REGULATING PLAN IS OPTIONAL.

UH, PROPERTIES CAN ALWAYS REDEVELOP USING EXISTING ZONING, BUT IF THEY WANT THE ADDITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO OPT INTO THE REGULATING PLAN.

AND THE REGULATING PLAN COULD BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PARCELS AND, OR ALLOWED GREATER ENTITLEMENTS TO HELP SUPPORT COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

I GET THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS A CHART THAT SHOWS WHERE WE'RE AT, UH, IN, IN THE FORMATION AND CREATION OF THE REGULATING PLAN, UPDATING WHAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY WORKED ON, UM, UNDER THE PREVIOUS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, UH, AND THEN, UH, CODE NEXT GEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITES THAT WE'RE REFRESHING THE INFORMATION AND RUNNING IT BACK THROUGH, UM, THE VARIOUS, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN COORDINATION WITH THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT ADVISORY BOARD.

WE DO ANTICIPATE BRINGING IT THROUGH, UM, FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AND EARLY SUMMER OF 2022.

I'M NOW TURNING IT BACK TO ED.

THANK YOU, ROSIE.

WE GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, WHICH IS JUST NEXT STEPS.

AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT, UM, UM, WAS ABLE TO COME PULL THIS TOGETHER IN VERY SHORT ORDER.

THESE RESOLUTIONS WERE PASSED ON OCTOBER 21ST AND STAFF HAD OUR FIRST MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS ON, UM, THIS PRESENTATION ON OCTOBER 22ND, YOU HEARD FROM FOUR OF US TODAY.

AND, BUT AS ALWAYS FOR EVERY PERSON YOU HEARD FROM THERE'S FIVE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT WERE REALLY PULLING ALL THE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND TO MAKE THIS WORK ON VERY SHORT ORDER.

SO APPRECIATE IT ALL OF THEM.

AND THANK YOU FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT TO THIS.

IN REGARDS TO NEXT STEPS, WE HAVE THE REMAINDER OF NOVEMBER TO WORK OUT ALL THOSE DETAILS OF A PROJECT FINANCING PLAN THAT KIM SPOKE OF.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF CREATING A TERRORS, AND THAT PLAN NEEDS TO INCLUDE ZONE BOUNDARIES, FINANCING COSTS, UH, UH, ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS A PERCENTAGE OF TAX INCREMENT THAT WILL BE CONTRIBUTED.

UM, AND SO WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THIS MONTH.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, CONSULTANTS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH TO HELP GUIDE US ON THAT.

UM, IN DECEMBER, UM, IF COUNCIL WISHES TO CREATE A TERMS, WE WILL NEED TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING, UM, IN ADVANCE OF COUNCIL TAKING ACTION, UH, TO ESTABLISH THE TERM, WE WOULD ENVISION THAT HAPPENING ON DECEMBER 9TH, THE PUBLIC HEARING NEEDS TO BE NOTICED A WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THAT.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT ON, UM, NOVEMBER 2ND.

UM, WE WOULD THEN BE WORKING BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR TO EXPLORE OTHER FINANCING MECHANISMS, THOSE, THAT LIST OF THINGS THAT KIM SPOKE TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, DISTRICT DRINKS, DISTRICTS, VOTER, APPROVED BONDS, A THERESE IS PROJECTED TO PAY FOR ABOUT A THIRD OF THE PUBLIC, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS NOT COUNTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO CLEARLY THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FINANCING TO MAKE THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT VISION PLAN COME TO A REALITY AND TO FUND ALL THOSE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET DONE BY THE END OF DECEMBER, BUT I DO THINK WE COULD COME UP WITH A, A PLAN AND A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THOSE THINGS COULD POTENTIALLY OCCUR.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO BE WORKING, UM, UM, THROUGHOUT 2022 TO DEVELOP OUR FINAL PROJECT PLAN AND FINANCING PLAN.

AND IT CAN BE IN THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR APPROVAL, BASICALLY THE, THE NEXT STEPS IN

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CREATING A TOURS.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL BE DOING THAT SIMILAR WORK FOR COLONY PARK, UM, LEADING TO A, UH, AN ACTION BY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION OF A TOURIST FOR COLONY PARK IN 2022.

SO THAT COMPLETES OUR STAFF BRIEFING.

UM, ANY OF US ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS FIRST.

I WANT TO SAY THAT I, THAT I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE IN A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK IN HERE AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I RECOGNIZE, I RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, WHEN YOU SET UP A TERM, UH, LIKE THIS, UH, AND IF WE SET IT UP BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEN WE WOULD, UH, BE LOCKING IN THAT VALUE, UM, FROM WHICH WE COULD TAKE A PERCENTAGE IF WE CHOSE TO, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THERE ARE CERTAIN PLANS THAT YOU HAVE TO PRESENT NOW IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT THIS YEAR, MY QUESTION IS NEXT YEAR, AS WE GET GREATER INFORMATION BETTER, MAYBE BETTER COST INFORMATION, OR WE SEE THAT WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A BOND AND DON'T NEED TO RAISE AS MUCH SO LONG AS WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY COMMITTED ANY BONDS BASED ON REVENUE STREAM PROJECTIONS.

CAN WE, UH, CHANGE THE, UH, AMEND OR UPDATE THE PLAN DETAILS OR THE PERCENTAGE OR THE COSTS OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS AS WE GET FURTHER INFORMATION NEXT YEAR, WITHOUT LOSING THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING LOCKED IN THE VALUE THIS YEAR? YES, YOU CAN AMEND THE, YOU CAN AMEND THE PROJECT PLAN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR THIS WORK.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET IT ON THE AGENDA, SETTING OUT THE NOTICES AND GETTING IT BACK.

UH, YOU KNOW, MY, MY COLLEAGUES, I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROPERTIES THAT START DEVELOPING WITH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, THE EXISTING ABSENCE OF A CITY GRID.

AND ONCE THAT STARTS HAPPENING, IT'S GOING TO BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO, TO ACTUALLY GET IT, TO DEVELOP THE WAY WE WANTED TO DEVELOP, BUT TO DO THAT, THAT REQUIRES THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM BY TAKING THE ACTION THIS YEAR.

IT DOESN'T COMMIT US TO ANYTHING.

IT JUST KEEPS THAT DOOR OPEN FOR US, UH, THAT WE CAN THEN TALK ABOUT LEVELS AND DETAILS AND AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT, BUT IT LOCKS IN THAT THAT VALUE GIVES US GREATER FLEXIBILITY, FURTHER COSTS, KATHY, AND THEN VANESSA.

YEAH.

THANKS.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

I'M JUST GOING TO ADD MY VERY QUICK, THANKS FOR ALL THE INFORMATION.

I'VE GOT LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCING OPTIONS AND SOME OTHER, AND SOME OTHER ELEMENTS I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SWITCH TO PHONE, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST ZERO IN ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE REGULATING PLAN.

SO WE HAD, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE MAKING REALLY GOOD PROGRESS ON DEVELOPING REALLY THE CODE ELEMENTS THAT WERE GOING TO CODIFY THAT VISION PLAN AND THAT IT GOT DELAYED SO THAT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A QUESTION A SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHETHER IT SHOULD MOVE FORWARD OR WHETHER IT SHOULD WAIT, GIVEN THAT WE WERE ABOUT TO START THE LDC CONVERSATIONS, THEN YOU KNOW, IT, WE HAD THAT QUESTION COME UP AGAIN MULTIPLE TIMES.

SO I'M DIRECTOR TRUE LOVE.

I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS BECAUSE I HAD TO RUN UP AND WAS LISTENING TO YOU BY PHONE, BUT IT LOOKS AS IF THE PLAN DRAFTING STARTED IN AUGUST OF THIS YEAR, YET WE'VE HAD CONSULTANTS WHO HAVE BEEN HIRED TO DO THIS WORK AND PASS BUDGET CYCLES.

SO, AND WE HAD ONE STAFF MEMBER WHO WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON THIS ISSUE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

SO IS, AM I, AGAIN, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING AT SEVERAL TIMES, WE'VE HAD THE QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THAT WORK SHOULD ADVANCE OR WAIT FOR THE LDC.

SO I THOUGHT A GOOD BODY OF THAT WORK WAS ALREADY COMPLETED.

AM I INCORRECT IN THAT? SO MY UNDERSTAND FROM, FROM WORKING WITH STAFF IS THAT, UM, WHILE THE WORK WAS, UH, IN, IN GOOD SHAPE, BEFORE THAT IT DID HAVE TO BE REFRESHED, SO TO SPEAK.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, INCLUDING, UH, WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANTS THAT WE HAD ON BOARD BEFORE.

UM, WE HAVE LOST BOTH OF THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT WERE WORKING ON THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAN, UH, ONE TO RETIREMENT AND ONE TO, UH, SHIFTING OVER TO THE PROJECT CONNECT OFFICE.

AND, UH, SO WE ARE, UM, INTRODUCING NEW STAFF INTO THIS SPACE.

AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE, OF THE PRE-EXISTING WORK.

UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER ON THAT RIGHT NOW.

I'M, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO CHAT WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF, UH, IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT.

BUT, UM, IT DID TAKE, UH, IT IS TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO REFRESH THE WORK.

WE HAD FRAMED IT FOR INCORPORATION INTO THE LAND

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DEVELOPMENT RE UH, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REWRITE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE HAVING TO REVERT IT BACK TO THE EXISTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THAT IS TAKING, UM, UH, A SMALL BIT OF TIME, I GUESS IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO KNOW WHO, WHO, UM, WHO, WHO ARE THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE NOW TASKED WITH THIS, BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVED THAT THAT WORK WAS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF COMPLETE AND READY TO GO BEFORE, BEFORE IT WAS ADAPTED TO WORK WITHIN THE LDC FRAMEWORK.

AND NOW IF WE'RE REVERTING BACK, I WOULD THINK THAT BODY OF WORK EXISTS TOO.

SO, UH, THAT WAS REALLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I THINK IT IS, IT WAS IN MY RESOLUTION, UM, THAT YOU CO-SPONSORED MAYOR, BUT IT DIDN'T NECESSARILY APPEAR IN THAT, BUT JUST BECAUSE WE, WE REALLY NEED TO GET SOME CLARITY ON WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THAT WORK THAT HAD BEEN DONE, THAT WE FUNDED, THAT WE HAD CONSULTANTS WORKING ON.

IF I COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO REFRESH IT, WHETHER WE, WHETHER WE CAN'T JUST GO BACK TO THAT EARLIER BODY.

BUT IF I HAD SOME REAL CONCRETE EXAMPLES THAT WOULD HELP TOO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST AS, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, WHEN WE PASS THE RESOLUTION JUST REALLY CRITICAL, BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE ONE MAJOR PROJECT GOING THROUGH THIS CYCLE, WE'VE KNOWN THIS IS ON THE HORIZON FOR A LONG WHILE.

WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED MANAGER FOR YOU, THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THAT REGULATING PLAN COMPLETED SO THAT IT IS, IT HAPPENS IN ADVANCE OF THOSE OF AT LEAST THAT ONE BIG PROJECT.

NOW THERE'S ANOTHER IN THE CYCLE.

YOU KNOW, AT THE POINT WE GET THE REGULAR, I'M CONCERNED THAT AT THE POINT WE GET THE REGULATING PLAN, THE MAJOR ATTRACTS WILL, WILL ALREADY BE TOO FAR ALONG IN THE PROCESS FOR IT TO, TO HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT.

UM, SO COULD WE THANK YOU DIRECTOR, TRUE LOVE FOR THE OFFER TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO MY STAFF? I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THE ENTIRE DIOCESE IS INTERESTED IN.

AND SO IF WE COULD PLEASE GET A FOLLOW UP ON WHAT IS, WHAT CURRENTLY EXISTS, HOW IT WAS ALTERED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WHAT SOME OF THE FUNDING WAS, UH, THAT WE PUT FORWARD FOR CONSULTANTS AND KIND OF WHERE THAT WORK, WHERE THAT WORK IS AT THIS POINT, WE WILL CERTAINLY GET THAT UPDATE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT WORK IS HAPPENING IN OUR PLANNING GROUP, UNDER THE LEADERSHIP STD, GREAT HOUSE.

UM, BUT WE WILL GET SOME INFORMATION BACK TO THE FULL COUNCIL.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAD SOME ABILITY TO GET THAT BACK TO AT LEAST AN INITIAL ANSWER BACK ABOUT WHAT ALREADY EXISTS, UM, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU.

UM, HOW MANY TERS AREAS DO WE HAVE IN AUSTIN? I BELIEVE THE ANSWER IS FOUR.

WE HAVE MUELLER, UH, UM, WALNUT CREEK SEE HOME, AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND STREET TERS, UM, WHICH IS NOT A TRADITIONAL TOURIST.

IT'S A A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FIXED ALLOCATION TO MAINTENANCE OF OUR SECOND STREET AROUND CITY HALL.

OKAY.

SO WHAT DID, HOW, LIKE WHAT'S A TYPICAL AVERAGE TIMELINE FOR, TO GET ONE UP AND RUNNING? UM, KNOW, I THINK WE COULD TYPICALLY DO THE WORK AND ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO DO THE ANALYSIS AND TO DO THE WORK, TO CREATE A TOURS.

UM, DEPENDS HOW MUCH BACKGROUND INFORMATION HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.

SO THIS DIRECTION TO GET A TOURS DONE THIS YEAR ON THE TIMELINE ASKS FOR IS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DONE ON, ON THE PROJECT, BUT WE NEEDED TO DO A MARKET ANALYSIS.

WE NEED TO DO A FINANCING PLAN.

UM, AND I WOULD SAY SIX MONTHS IS PROBABLY THE SHORTEST THAT COULD BE DONE FROM SCRATCH.

GOTCHA.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

IT WAS SUPER HELPFUL AS YOU ALL WALK THROUGH, UM, THE DIFFERENT MECHANISMS AND THE STEPS NEEDED TO GET ONE SET UP, TO GET A TOUR SET UP.

AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE REGARDING THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT IN ORDER TO MEET THE 20% AFFORDABILITY, BUT I'LL SHARE THAT, UM, THE AMOUNT WITH THE TOURS WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH OR WOULD NOT BE SUFFICIENT TO COVER MEETING THE AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT.

SO HOW, WHAT, UM, OTHER REVENUE WOULD WE, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT IN ORDER TO MEET THIS REQUIREMENT? WOULD IT BE THROUGH OUR PROJECT CONNECT ANTI-DISPLACEMENT FUNDS? WOULD IT BE THROUGH, I MEAN, IF WE HAVE ANY, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND FUNDS LEFTOVER, IT WOULD BE EXISTING OR FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS, HOUSING TRUST FUND, OR THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT FUNDS, MAYBE ROSIE HAS OTHER GREAT IDEAS.

I WOULD SAY I'M NOT SURE THAT THE ANTI-DISPLACEMENT DOLLARS WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

UM, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROXIMITY TO TRANSIT AND HOW ALL THAT WOULD COME TOGETHER.

UH, TYPICALLY WE'D BE LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS, UM, AT HOUSING TRUST FUND, AS ED SAID, UH, THERE'S PERHAPS A CHANCE OF, UH, FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WOULD ALIGN.

UM, BUT TYPICALLY, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OF THIS NATURE WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH, UM, THROUGH UTILIZATION OF OUR, UH, RENTAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE DOLLARS, WHICH IS OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

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GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

ANYTHING ELSE HAS PRESENTATION GOT FROM REALTOR? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT A DUCK'S CURRENT ROLE IS IN THIS PROCESS? UM, WELL, WE'VE HAD 'EM, UM, AND GATLING HAYES IS, UM, THE CHIEF TRANSACTION OFFICER THERE.

WE HAVE HAD HER AT OUR STAFF MEETINGS AS WE'VE BEEN PREPARING THIS PRESENTATION.

SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH HER AS A, AND OF COURSE VERONICA IS THE CURRENT ACTING C CEO FOR THE AEDC.

UM, SO THEY HAVE BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS OF CREATING A TOURIST.

I DUNNO.

UM, VERONICA, IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE TO ADD IN REGARDS TO WHAT THE LONGER-TERM VISION IS FOR A ROLE IN THE OVERALL SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT FRAMEWORK, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF THE CREATING THE TOURS, UM, WE HAVE BEEN INCLUDING AEDC AND THE CONVERSATION OF HOW WE WOULD CREATE AN IN GETTING GOOD INPUT FROM AND GATLING A'S.

AND DOES THE, UM, DOES THE REGULATING PLAN HAVE TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TOURS? NO.

OKAY.

SO IT, IS IT IN YOUR MIND FEASIBLE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO US WITH SOMETHING ON DECEMBER 9TH, GIVEN ALL THE PRIOR WORK, IF IT WAS SET, SAY ZERO AS THE MAYOR HAD SUGGESTED? YES.

I, I THINK WE CAN COME BACK ON DECEMBER 9TH WITH A PRELIMINARY FINANCING PLAN AND CREATING A TOURIST FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT AREA.

WE CAN GET THE WORK DONE BY THEM.

REALLY.

WE HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE BY THE SECOND TO JUST TO DO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE.

OKAY.

UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CAPTURE THE VALUE WHERE WE ARE NOW, UM, BEEN HEARING LOTS OF RUMBLINGS ABOUT PROPOSALS THAT ARE IN THE WORKS AND ROARING TO GO FORWARD, UM, COME HELL OR HIGH WATER AND, AND WITHOUT REGARD FOR THE PLANNING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MANY YEARS.

SO I THINK IT'S, IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THIS BASELINE, UM, MOVING FORWARD, IF IT, IF IT SEEMS FEASIBLE AS YOU'VE JUST DESCRIBED.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU PROBABLY HOUSE BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT REPORT.

UM, AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT ADD, THANK YOU.

MY APOLOGIES MAYOR.

HEY KATHY.

I, SORRY.

NO, I'M, I'M ON AUDIO, BUT I DID WANT TO ALSO JUST ADD MY VOICE.

I DIDN'T DISCUSS THE FINANCING PIECE OF IT, AND I, I CONCUR THAT THAT'S A REAL HIGH PRIORITY.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US MOVE FORWARD ON THAT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO THANKS FOR THE WORK.

THANKS FOR THE WORK AND GETTING THAT MOVING.

ALRIGHT, I THINK WE'RE SET.

THANKS GUYS.

ADDED YOUR WEEK.

WE MAY HAVE TIME TO DO THE LAST REPORT HERE BEFORE FIVE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

BY THE WAY, BEFORE WE DO THAT, JUST TO MENTION WE WERE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION EARLIER, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CLERK, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITY CLERK, THE CITY HAS A DIFFERENT POSITION THAN THE COUNTY CLERK.

WE'VE JUST LEARNED THAT THE COUNTY CLERK IS RETIRING A YEAR EARLY.

UH, BUT I UNDERSTAND SHE MAY STAY ON LONG ENOUGH TO HELP WITH, UH, UH, AN ELECTION IN JANUARY.

SHOULD WE SET ONE, WHICH I APPRECIATE, BUT OUR DISCUSSIONS ARE WITH RESPECT TO THE CITY CLERK, UH, IT'S A DIFFERENT POSITION, REAL IMPORTANT POSITION THAT, THAT RUNS A LOT OF, UH, UM, UM, CLERK CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

I'LL LET YOU GO ON AND DO THE NEXT PRESENTATION ON THE DOWNTOWN

[B2. Update on Downtown Austin Community Court]

AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT.

THANK YOU, MARIN COUNCIL, UH, FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE HAVE CAMILLA VIRUS, OUR DEPUTY CFO, UH, TO KICK US OFF, BUT WE HAVE STAFF ALSO AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, KIM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.

I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO YOU NOW ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN ASA COMMUNITY COURT, KIM ALAVAREZ DEPUTY CFO.

UM, BEFORE I JUMP INTO THE DETAILS, I DO WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES THAT HAVE BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH ON THIS PROJECT.

UM, DARRYL ALEXANDER AND HIS TEAM AND BUILDING SERVICES, UH, MICHAEL GATES AND REAL ESTATE, UM, AS OBVIOUSLY PETE VALDEZ AND HIS TEAM IN THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT.

UM, BUT LAST BUT NOT LEAST PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WHO HAS BEEN FANTASTIC IN HELPING US COME UP WITH A PLAN.

SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF, OF THE DAC FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THE DAC WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1999 AND IT ACTUALLY

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IS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN TEXAS.

UM, AND ITS PURPOSE IS TO ADMINISTER JUSTICE, EQUITABLY AND COMPASSIONATELY TO FOSTER TRUST AND ACCOUNTABILITY, AND LARGELY WORKS WITH OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, ITS JURISDICTION INCLUDES PARTS OF DOWNTOWN EAST CAMPUS AS WELL AS WEST CAMPUS.

UM, ITS CURRENT GUIDELINES FOR THE LOCATION OF THE DAC COURTROOM AND ITS SERVICES, UM, IS FOR THE CENTRAL, UM, AREA.

SO IT'S THE DOWNTOWN AREA JURISDICTION.

EXCELLENT.

PREVIOUSLY THE JACK WAS LOCATED ON EAST SIXTH STREET, BUT ITS LEASE EXPIRED, UM, AFTER LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

ULTIMATELY THEY WERE, THEY HAD BEEN LOCATED IN ONE TEXAS CENTER ON A TEMPORARY BASIS AND WE HAVE SINCE BEEN IN SEARCH OF A PERMANENT FACILITY, UM, THE, UH, 2018 RESOLUTION DIRECTED STAFF TO IDENTIFY OPTIONS FOR THE RELOCATION OF THE DAC TO LOCATE IT ON OR NEAR TRANSIT LINE, UM, INCLUDING PARKING OPTIONS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO INCLUDING POSSIBILITY OF CO-LOCATING IT, UH, WITH MUNICIPAL COURT SERVICES, UM, AND ADDITIONAL SERVICES FOR THE POPULATION SERVED.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS A BUDGET WRITER THIS YEAR THAT INSTRUCTED STAFF TO FIND A PERMANENT LOCATION FOR THEM, UM, BY 2024.

EXCELLENT.

SO IN AS PART OF THAT SEARCH PROCESS, UH, STAFF LOOKED AT 22 DIFFERENT SITES, CENTRAL AUSTIN.

UH, WE WERE LOOKING AT EXISTING CITY OF AUSTIN SPACE.

UH, WE LOOKED AT POSSIBILITY OF ACQUIRING OR BUILDING A NEW FACILITY THAT MIGHT ALSO BE LOW CO-LOCATED WITH OTHER SERVICES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UM, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS OR, UM, AS A LAST RESORT, UH, A LEASE OPTION OR AT LEAST A PURCHASE.

EXCELLENT.

SO WE'VE COME HERE TODAY TO RECOMMEND THAT WE RELOCATE THE DECK TO THE OLD MUNICIPAL BUILDING, THE OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT EIGHTH AND COLORADO.

UM, THAT BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT IN 1858, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF RENOVATIONS AND REBUILDS OVER THE YEARS AND ITS CURRENT CONFIGURATION WAS ACTUALLY BUILT IN 1938.

THE EXTERIOR IS DESIGNATED AS AN AUSTIN LANDMARK AS A 2002, BUT THE INTERIOR IS NOT.

SO IT IS, UH, AVAILABLE FOR US TO RETROFIT IN ANY WAY.

UH, WE NEED TO, TO MEET OUR CURRENT NEEDS.

UH, IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY FINANCIAL SERVICES STAFF, UM, AND THE DAC WOULD UTILIZE THE FIRST FLOOR AND THE MAJORITY OF THE SECOND FLOOR, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ASSISTANCE.

THEY'VE WORKED ON, WORKED OUT A PLAN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO OCCUPY THE BUILDING WITH DOCK SERVICES IN 22 MONTHS, BUT THAT DOES REQUIRE A COMPREHENSIVE RENOVATION OF THAT BUILDING.

UM, IT IS VERY OLD.

THERE IS LED THERE'S ASBESTOS, THE MECHANICAL, THE PLUMBING, THE ELECTRICAL, THE HVAC, AND ADA ALL NEEDS ATTENTION IN THAT BUILDING.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, APPROXIMATELY, UM, 38 THAT ARE JUST UNDER 49,000 SQUARE FEET AVAILABLE.

UM, THE MAJORITY OF THAT ON THAT'S THREE MAIN FLOORS AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A SMALL BASEMENT AREA.

UM, IN TERMS OF PARKING, WE DO HAVE A PAVILION SPACE THAT HAS APPROXIMATELY 11 SPACES.

AND THEN IN TOTAL BETWEEN THAT AND THE ATTACHED GARAGE ON THE BACK THAT WE HAVE, UM, ACCESS TO, WE HAVE ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 60 SPACES FOR USE PLUS AN OFFSITE, UM, GARAGE, IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

NEXT SLIDE.

UM, FOR COMPARISON, UH, THE PREVIOUS LOCATION ON EAST SIXTH IS THE ORANGE DOT NEAR ITS CURRENT LOCATION IS THE GREEN.AT ONE TEXAS CENTER AT 5 0 5 BARTON SPRINGS ROAD.

AND THE PROPOSED LOCATION PUTS IT AT EIGHTH AND COLORADO, WHICH IS BASICALLY DEAD CENTER IN ITS DOWNTOWN JURISDICTION.

UM, THEREBY MEETING THE GUIDELINES RELATED TO THE LOCATION OF THE COURTROOM AND ITS SERVICES.

NEXT SLIDE.

SOME ADDITIONAL ADVANTAGES FOR THIS LOCATION IN 2020 RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL DIRECTING STAFF FOR US TO LOOK AT VARIOUS CITY OWNED BUILDINGS, UM, THAT COULD BE SUITABLE FOR CULTURAL USES.

AS I NOTED BEFORE THE FIRST AND FIRST FLOOR AND A PORTION OF THE SECOND FLOOR WOULD BE UTILIZED BY THE DAC LEADING THE REMAINDER OF THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE ENTIRE THIRD FLOOR FOR OTHER USES.

SO WE'VE BEEN EXPLORING THE POSSIBILITY OF CULTURAL NONPROFIT SPACE USE ON IN THOSE AREAS.

AND WE'VE BEEN COLLABORATING EXTENSIVELY WITH THE AUSTIN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

UM, WHAT, WHEN WE DO LOOK AT THOSE, UH, THE, THE CULTURAL OR THE NONPROFIT USES, WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THEM IN A MANNER THAT WILL MEET THE FINANCING RESTRICTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, UH, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CROSSING ANY LEGAL BOUNDARIES.

NEXT SLIDE, THE ESTIMATED PROJECT BUDGET, UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW IS 25.2, $5 MILLION AND THEN ADDITIONAL 500 FOR FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT, AND ALSO KNOWN AS FFE.

UM, WE'RE REFINING THOSE COSTS, UM, THROUGH OUR COLLABORATION WITH AEDC.

ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE CAN DO TO, UM, SWITCH

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OUT AN ELEVATOR TO A FREIGHT ELEVATOR TO MAKE THIS SPACE FAR MORE ACCESSIBLE AND FLEXIBLE FOR THOSE CULTURAL USES.

UM, THE, THE COST OF JUST OVER 25 MILLION EQUATES TO JUST OVER $500 PER SQUARE FOOT, UM, WE WOULD RECOMMEND UTILIZING CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TO FUND THIS, WHICH WOULD BE AN ALLOWABLE USE UNDER THE LATEST HOUSE BILL, UM, THAT RESTRICTED THE USE OF NON-VOTER APPROVED DEBT, UM, IN COMPARISON TO A PREVIOUS LEASE PROPOSAL, UM, THAT PROPOSAL WAS FOR 30,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS BUILDING IS FAR BEYOND 30,000 SQUARE FEET.

THE PRICE TAG FOR THAT WAS 21.6 MILLION OVER 10 YEARS.

IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD PAY JUST OVER 25 MILLION, BUT WE WOULD OWN THE BUILDING IN THE END, HAVE MORE SPACE, UM, AND BE ABLE TO MEET NOT ONLY OUR DAX NEEDS, BUT ALSO THE NEEDS POTENTIALLY OF, OF CULTURAL, UM, USES IN THE SAME BUILDING.

UM, NEXT SLIDE, IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, UH, WE WOULD COME TO THE COUNCIL IN DECEMBER ASSUMING THAT, UM, THERE ARE SUPPORT FOR THIS APPROACH.

WE WOULD COME BACK IN DECEMBER WITH RCAS TO APPROVE THE DESIGN, BUILD ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE DELIVERY MODE, UH, OR METHOD FOR THIS PROJECT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO MEET THE TIMEFRAME, TO GET THE DECK OUT OF ONE TEXAS CENTER BY 2024.

UM, WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO COME BACK WITH RCAS FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

UM, WE WOULD THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH RELOCATING THE FINANCIAL SERVICES STAFF TO AN ALTERNATE LOCATION, UM, AND BUILDING SERVICES THAT WOULD THEN BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN ASBESTOS AND LEAD ABATEMENT.

UM, AND THEN DURING THAT TIME, THE DESIGN WOULD BE TAKING PLACE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW FOR US TO BEGIN THE CONSTRUCTION WORK, FOLLOWING COMPLETION OF BUILDING SERVICES WORK AND THAT ULTIMATELY RESULTS IN THE DECK MOVING IN BY THE CLOSE OF CALENDAR YEAR 2023.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF THIS LOCATION.

UM, IF THE, THE OLD CITY HALL IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR DAT TO BE LOCATED THERE.

UM, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

JUST THE, UM, TWENTY-FIVE MILLION DOLLAR COST INCLUDE THE COST OF RELOCATING THE FINANCIAL SERVICES AND THE COST OF THEM THEREAFTER.

UH, IT DOES NOT, BUT WE WOULD BE RELOCATING THEM TO ANOTHER CITY OWNED BUILDING, UM, WITH AUSTIN ENERGY RELOCATING TO THEIR NEW HEADQUARTERS, UH, TOWN LAKE CENTER BUILDING, UM, GIVES US OPPORTUNITIES TO, UM, HOUSE CITY STAFF WITHOUT A LEASE.

OKAY.

SO WE WOULD BE MOVING THEM TO TOWN LAKE.

AND WHAT IS THE PLAN THEN FOR THAT? UH, WELL WITH THE, EVENTUALLY WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE TEXAS CENTER BEING REDEVELOPED AS A NEW OFFICE TOWER, IDEALLY ALL FINANCIAL SERVICE STAFF, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE, UM, DEPARTMENT STAFFS WOULD BE LOCATED IN A NEW ONE TEXAS CENTER THAT ALLOWS US TO ALSO MEET OUR, OUR GOALS TO GETTING OUT OF LEASE SPACE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE PURPOSES BY 2025.

UM, THE COMBINATION OF THE TELEWORKING SCHEDULES THAT MO THAT, UM, DEPARTMENTS HAVE ADOPTED AS WELL AS THAT NEW SPACE WOULD ALLOW US TO CO-LOCATE NUMEROUS DEPARTMENTS.

AND, UM, SO TOWN LAKE CENTER AND ONE TEXAS CENTER WOULD BE A COMBINED EFFORT TO ACHIEVE THAT.

OKAY.

SO ARE WE KEEPING STAFF AT TOWN LAKE CENTER IN SOME PERMUTATION OR WOULD IT JUST BE USED TEMPORARILY TO TEMPORARILY AND THEN LONG-TERM, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO PROGRAM OUT WHAT A NEW ONE TEXAS CENTER WOULD LOOK LIKE, WE WOULD BE DOING THAT IN CONSIDERATION OF THE SPACE AVAILABILITY AT TOWN LAKE CENTER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLEMENTING THEM.

OKAY.

AND WHAT KIND OF SECURITY DO YOU USE AT A DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COURT? UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT, I'M CURIOUS.

WHAT SECURITY MECHANISMS DO YOU USE AT A DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY COURT SINCE WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE MUNICIPAL COURT? IT SEEMS LIKE WE PROBABLY HAVE A PROBLEM THERE AS WELL.

NO, HE FOLLOWED US AND PROBABLY BEST TO ANSWER THAT.

JUST TO DESCRIBE THE SECURITY.

THAT'S CURRENTLY AT ONE TEXAS CENTER.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, MY NAME IS PETER VALDEZ AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN COMMUNITY COURT.

UM, WE CURRENTLY USE A HYBRID MODEL LIKE, UM, DIRECTOR GRUB MENTIONED EARLIER IN OUR PRESENTATION.

UH, WE HAVE, UH, CONTACT SECURITY.

IT'S DOING, UH, THE SCREENINGS INTO THE FACILITY AND THEN, UH, APD COURT SERVICES OFFICERS ARE LOCATED IN THE COURTROOM AT ALL TIMES.

AND WHY IS IT NOT A PROBLEM AT THE DOCK? PUT A PROBLEM AT THE MAP? THE SET UP, YEAH.

IT'S FOR BOAT THIS MORNING WAS OKAY.

I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS FOR BOTH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

MY MISTAKE COLLEAGUES, ANYTHING ELSE? IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A GOOD LOCATION FOR ME.

WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH

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THE OTHER LOCATIONS.

UM, UH, THIS IS CENTRALLY LOCATED.

I THINK ONE OF THE ORIGINAL INTEREST IN HAVING A INCLUDE CULTURAL ARTS COMPONENT WAS TO, TO GET GREATER PUBLIC ACCESS AND ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH ONE OF THE FEW BUILDINGS WE HAVE THAT, THAT DATE BACK THAT FAR.

UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING.

UH, SO I THINK THAT AS WE SET IT UP, WE SHOULD REALLY BE THINKING ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY, IN TERMS OF A PUBLIC SPACE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST OFFICES.

BUT AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE DESIGN CRITERIA, WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT HOW IT IS.

WE BRING MORE PEOPLE, HOPEFULLY WALKING IN THE AREA, UH, NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE FOURTH STREET AREA THAT, UH, WILL BE, UH, A PRIME ACTIVITY AREA WHEN, UH, PROJECT CONNECT GETS BUILT.

BUT TO HAVE THAT BE A REALLY INVITING PUBLIC SPACE AND CERTAINLY, UH, A PUBLIC COURTHOUSE AS A PUBLIC SPACE, UH, AS WELL.

SO, UH, UH, I APPRECIATE, UH, NOTICING AND RECOGNIZING THIS AND CERTAINLY THE ECONOMICS LOOK REAL GOOD COMPARED TO EVEN THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES WE WERE LOOKING AT.

SO THANK YOU, MAYOR.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON MAYOR PRO TEM.

THAT WAS TOTAL.

THERE WAS A TURBO.

YEAH.

UM, THAT WAS NEAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAYOR PRO TEM ALSO, SHE HAD ASKED EARLIER IF SHE COULD SPEAK TO THIS ISSUE, I WANT TO GIVE HER THAT CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

IF NOT, I'LL PASS IT OVER TO YOU, KATHY.

GO AHEAD, KATHY.

SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE CALLING ON THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, THANKS VERY MUCH.

I ALSO, WELL, NUMBER ONE, I WANT TO STEP BACK.

I KNOW WE SET, UM, IN, IN THE BUDGET DIRECTION I BROUGHT, I KNOW WE SET A PRETTY AMBITIOUS GOAL AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY DISCUSSING THE PERMANENT LOCATION.

I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME GOAL WITH SOME, BUT SOME DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD IN.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF, ONE OF THE BEST OPTIONS, IT SEEMS BOTH FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

AND ALSO AS THE MAYOR SAID, WELL, LOCATED WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.

ONE IS I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE TIMELINE AND MAYBE I NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, SITTING DOWN WITH STAFF AND REALLY BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UM, TIME THAT THE DAC WOULD BE LOCATED TEMPORARILY IN WHEN TEXAS CENTER.

AND THAT WOULD SEEM 20, 24 SAINTS.

KATHY.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING INTO THAT.

CATHY, THE CONNECTION IS NOT GOOD.

CATHY, THE CONNECTION IS NOT GOOD.

ARE YOU DO THE WORK TO COME UP WITH CATHERINE? CAN YOU HEAR ME CASSIE USING WHAT, WHAT DID YOU TEXT HER? UM, YES, YOU ANSWERED AS YOU'RE BREAKING UP.

SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD VERY MUCH OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY.

I'M SORRY.

DID YOU SAY YOU HAVE THAT'S CORRECT.

HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HEAR, HEAR YOU? WELL, OKAY.

UM, WE D WE NEED TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THE TIMELINE, AND SO IF YOU WANT IT TO SPEAK GENERALLY TO THAT, BUT CERTAINLY WE WILL FOLLOW UP, UH, CLEARLY WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO, BUT THEN, UH, OTHER UPDATES AS APPROPRIATE TO THE ENTIRE DIOCESE.

UH, WE HAVE A MORE DETAILED SCHEDULE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL.

UM, BUT THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THEM TO HAVE THEM MOVING IN BY THE END OF 20, 23 AND FULLY OPERATIONAL BY, UM, THE START A 24.

BUT WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THAT DRAFT SCHEDULE WHERE THE COUNCIL THAT'D BE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, KATHY.

WE CAN SEE YOU NOW, MAYOR.

YES.

BRETT, YOU HAVE NOW FROZEN ON THIS.

ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME NOW? WELL, THAT'S FINE.

ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY, THANKS.

UH, I'LL MAKE IT SUPER QUICK.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE ABLE TO HEAR MUCH OF WHAT I SAID,

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SO I'LL SUMMARIZE IT.

I THINK THE LOCATION IS THE RIGHT ONE.

I THINK I HEARD SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT THE TIMELINE.

SO PERHAPS YOU DID HEAR ME, UH, THAT PART OF IT THAT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY HOW IT, HOW IT FITS IN WITH, WITH THE TWO-YEAR TIMEFRAME FOR HAVING A TEMPORARY LOCATION.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE STAFF WORKING HARD TO REALLY IDENTIFY THAT FINAL PERMANENT LOCATION FOR THE DECK.

I THINK THIS IS VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE BUDGET DIRECTION.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW I'M HEARING ONE TEXAS CENTER BEING DISCUSSED.

UM, I, PAT YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION.

I BROUGHT LOOKING AT ONE TEXAS CENTER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, TO MEET THAT EXPECTATION THAT I THINK IT IS 25% OF THE HOUSING WITHIN THE SOUTH CENTRAL WATERFRONT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE.

AND SO WHEN TEXAS CENTER IS A CITY ON LAND, THAT IS, UM, HIGH PRIORITY.

AND SO IT, THERE MAY BE THE STAFF ARE THINKING ABOUT IT AS A COMBINATION OFFICE BUILDING AND SUBSTANTIAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR THAT IN A PREVIOUS CONVERSATION THAT DO YOU HAVE A BETTER RESPONSE TO ANYTHING THAT YOU HEARD? YEAH, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT.

WE, WE ARE SO VERY EARLY IN CONSIDERING, UM, WHAT ALL IT WOULD APPEAR ON THAT LAND, BUT WE DO DEFINITELY HAVE THE CAPABILITY IN THIS SPACE TO MEET BOTH OFFICE NEEDS AS WELL AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DEFINITELY, UM, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROGRAMMING PLAN, BUT WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALEX, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? P O I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT FINDING OUT THAT THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, THE FUTURE SITE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE HAVE OF THESE OLDER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, BEST, UH, BEEN USED AND WE NEED TO CLEAN THEM OUT.

SO THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT START.

I THINK KATHY'S TRYING TO ANYWAY, I REALLY WANT TO THINK THAT THE STAFF ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND FINDING THIS LOCATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN THIS PLACE UP AND, AND OPEN IT BACK TO THE PUBLIC WHERE THEY CAN COME AND ENJOY THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING SAFELY.

GREAT.

ANYONE ELSE? AN, UM, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS.

UM, AND I AGREE WITH PO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I, THAT OLD BUILDING IS JUST AN AMAZING BUILDING.

SO, UM, AND I, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESERVE A LOT OF THE REALLY COOL ASPECTS OF IT, UM, AS IT'S, UM, AS, AS IT'S USED BEING IS BEING CHANGED.

SO I I'M, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF Y'ALL'S EFFORTS.

UM, AND I'M ALSO THINKING IT WILL BE A VERY INTERESTING TO HAVE THE TOP FLOOR BE, UM, SOMETHING RELATED TO CULTURAL, UM, ARTISTS AND, AND, AND OTHER CULTURAL, UM, CREATIVES.

SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO WEIGH IN HOW EXCITED I AM TO SEE THE DOCTOR TO THE OLD CITY HALL.

I THINK THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL REUSE OF THAT GORGEOUS BUILDING, SO GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? JUST AS WE CONCLUDE TODAY, MAYOR JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, THIS WAS A VERY FULL BUT PRODUCTIVE DAY AND THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

AND WE REALLY WANT TO THANK OUR STAFF FOR THE COUNTLESS HOURS THAT THEY PUT INTO EACH ONE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS THAT YOU HEARD A LOT OF WORK GOES INTO THIS, AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT WE GOT THROUGH TODAY.

SO THANK YOU MAYOR FOR YOUR FACILITATION AND LEADERSHIP, UH, BECAUSE WE DID GET THROUGH THE WHOLE AGENDA TODAY AND THESE ISSUES WERE CAPSTONES.

I THINK, OF, OF MULTI-YEAR WORK.

I MEAN, THESE WERE BIG MOMENTS, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AS WELL, MANAGER.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, THEN AT, UH, 4 46, UH, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

SEE YOU ALL ON THURSDAY.