Aug 11, 2022 City Council Budget Work Session

GOING TO CONTINUE ON IN THE, UH, SPECIAL CALLED BUDGET, UH, UH, SESSION, OR WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH, UH, THE PRESENTATION THAT THE BUDGET OFFICE HAS PREPARED FOR US TODAY, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO MORE GENERALIZED QUESTIONS OR CONVERSATIONS TO ONE ANOTHER.

UM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY VOTING, NO, THOSE VOTING AYE PASSES, UH, 10 TO ONE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DR.

STARK.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US HERE THIS MORNING.

UH, WE'RE

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BASICALLY WE OPEN IT UP AT THAT POINT.

STAFF IS HERE AS A, AS A, AS A RESOURCE, UH, FOR US.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, EITHER TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE BUDGET OR TO TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION, IF THERE WERE ANY, UH, ISSUES FOR PEOPLE.

UH, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

SO I'M GONNA START, UH, BY FIRST INVITING SPEAKERS, UH, TO SPEAK THIS MORNING.

I THINK WE HAD FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE, UH, TO SPEAK OF THE CLERKS.

HERE ARE THESE ALL PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE IN PERSON, MAY YOUR ALL SPEAKERS ARE HERE IN PERSON.

FIRST SPEAKER IS MONICA GUZMAN SPEAKING ON ITEM TWO.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I BELIEVE THAT ITEM TWO, UM, WAS SET UP AS AN ITEM IF WE NEEDED IT TO WAIVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

I REMEMBER THIS IS NOT GENERAL CONVERSATION ON THE BUDGET.

THIS IS ON THE, UM, UH, THIS IS ON THE QUESTION OF, UH, THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, WHICH IS, UH, IN INCHES IN FRONT OF US AND AVAILABLE TO US.

UM, I CERTAINLY WOULD LET PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THAT MONKEY PACK POX, UH, EFFORT, UH, IF THEY WANTED TO SPEAK ON THAT AS WELL.

AND IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT AROSE, WE COULD CERTAINLY TAKE A REVOLT ON THAT.

I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE SPEAKERS BEFORE WE TOOK THAT VOTE.

UH, SO I'LL OPEN THAT UP AGAIN FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK.

AND IF THERE'S INTEREST, WE'LL CALL FOR A REVOTE ON THAT.

UM, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD.

UM, MS. GUZMAN.

YEAH,

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WE JUST GOT IT.

UM, SO WE DON'T NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ITEM TWO.

MS. GUZMAN IS, IS WELCOME TO SPEAK ABOUT PARKLAND DEDICATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT WAS PUT ON OUR AGENDA TO ALLOW US TO TAKE ACTION IF THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE, UH, A RECOMMENDATION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPENT SEVERAL HOURS ON THIS AND APPRECIATE THEIR WORK.

UM, AND THAT ITEM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, CAN BE WITHDRAWN IN LESS AS THOMAS HAS ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION.

WE WON'T TAKE THAT MOTION BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED TO.

CAUSE I WAS JUST EXPLAINING THAT FOR THE, FOR THE PUBLIC, SINCE SHE WAS LISTED TO SPEAK FOR THAT ONE.

NO, NO.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT'S GOOD.

WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER THREE.

UH, SO WE'LL ALSO ENTERTAIN PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK TO THE ISSUE OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION, UH, AS PART OF THAT NOTICE PUBLIC, UH, HEARING.

BUT MS. GUZMAN, IS SHE WITH US? I DON'T SEE HER HERE.

NEXT SPEAKER.

UM, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ROY WHALEY ON TWO AND THREE.

JAMES TEMPLETON IS ON DECK FOR ITEMS TWO AND THREE.

HOW TO Y'ALL AND GOOD MORNING, UM, ON THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE, UH, SIERRA CLUB IS IN FAVOR OF THIS OVERALL.

UM, I HAVE NOT SEEN THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

I WAS WATCHING THE PC MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT AND DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE END OF IT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS WERE, UH, ASIDE FROM CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS, UM, BUT ALL IN ALL.

UH, AND I ALSO, UH, WOULD SAY THAT THE SABER SPRINGS GROUP IS ALSO IN FAVOR OF THIS AND ASKING FOR IT, BUT SIERRA CLUB IS, BUT WE WOULD ALSO ASK THAT AND I HOPE THIS IS ADDRESS THAT FOR BUSINESSES, UH, 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND SMALLER, THAT ARE FAR THE ARTS THAT WOULD BE, UH, DANCE, ART STUDIOS, ET CETERA, THAT THEY'D BE EXEMPT FROM THIS.

HOWEVER, IF WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT SPACE IS THEN BOUGHT FOR EIGHT DIFFERENT USE, THEN IT WOULD BE REQUIRED THAT AT THAT TIME THEY PAY INTO THE PARKLAND DEDICATION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE SOME KIND OF BAIT AND SWITCH.

UM, AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE

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OUR WISH ON THAT.

AND, UM, LET'S GET MORE PARKS.

AND I WOULD ALSO, IF IT'S LEGAL AS THAT IT GO INTO A FUND, UH, THAT HELPS FUND THE POCKET PARKS THAT SHOULD ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH ALONG OUR CORRIDORS.

AS WE, AS WE DENSIFY OUR CORRIDORS, A WALKABLE UP POCKET PARKS SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THEIR KIDS OUT, UH, GET THEMSELVES OUT, TAKE THEIR PUPPIES TO POOP.

UM, AS, AS WE DENSIFY THE CORRIDORS AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S LEGAL OR NOT.

I HOPE YOU ALL WILL EXPLORE THAT.

AND I HOPE THAT IT IS BECAUSE WE NEED THOSE POCKET PARKS AS WELL AS METRO PARKS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, IF I CAN MA MAN, I JUST WANT TO, UM, CLARIFY THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, PRECISELY WHAT PARKLAND DEDICATION PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE DOES, IS IT, IT HELPS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO PURCHASE POCKET PARKS, TRAILS, ET CETERA, WHERE THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING.

AND TO THE EXTENT THAT THE GROWTH IS HAPPENING ALONG OUR CORRIDORS, THERE'LL BE FUNDING IN THOSE AREAS.

IT IS, UM, DESIGNATED TO BE SPENT IN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF AREAS AROUND THE CITY.

AND IT'S THE MONEY THAT'S IN THOSE AREAS THAT FEEDS TO THOSE AREAS AND THERE'S RULES ABOUT HOW FAR FROM A GIVEN PROPERTY, UM, IT CAN BE FOR THAT MONEY TO BE INVESTED IN.

SO IT IS PRECISELY WHAT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION ORDINANCE IS SET UP, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND IF I COULD REQUEST THAT I GET A COPY OF THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SIERRA CLUB.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL JUST NOW HAVE RECEIVED THEM.

IS THAT CORRECT? IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE ARE POSTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WEBSITE, THAT'D BE GREAT.

WE'LL CERTAINLY POST THE MOST DRAFT WE HAVE TO THE YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

PONY EXPRESS CARRIER PIGEON, HOWEVER YOU'LL WANT TO DELIVER IT WILL BE FINE.

NEXT SPEAKER, JAMES TEMPLETON.

ANDREW HORNEMAN FOR ITEM THREE.

YOU HAVE TO SIGN UP, YOU TALK TO THE, TO THE CLERK.

I AGREE.

HAVE RULES ABOUT SIGNING UP.

IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS.

WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO BUDGET STAFF.

THERE'S THOSE SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE SIGNED UP, UH,

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GOOD MORNING.

AMERICAN COUNCIL, CARRIE LANG BUDGET OFFICER FOR THE CITY AND FINANCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.

AS WE CONTINUE DISCUSSION ON THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 PROPOSED BUDGET THIS MORNING, WE HAVE PREPARED A, UM, PRESENTATION WITH SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS WITH DIANA GRAY AS THE LEAD FROM THE HOMELESS STRATEGY OFFICE TO DISCUSS HOMEMADE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT CLEANUP BUDGETS, AND, UM, AS IT, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE COMING PROPOSAL BUDGET.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIANA AND THE TEAM.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, I'M AMONG THE, THE MANY WAYS THAT WE WORK ON THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY.

IN ADDITION TO OUR HOUSING AND OUR SOCIAL SERVICES, WE DO SPEND A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND RESOURCES ON THE MANAGEMENT OF PUBLIC SPACES.

UH, MANY DEPARTMENTS ARE INVOLVED IN THIS WORK.

UM, UH, WE HAVE AT LEAST 15 DEPARTMENTS THAT TOUCH THE PUBLIC SPACE MANAGEMENT PIECE OF THIS DIRECTLY, BUT TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING, UM, ABOUT THE WORK AND SOME OF THE THIRD-PARTY CONTRACTS.

WE HAD SPECIFIC TO THE FOUR PRIMARY DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE REALLY BOOTS ON THE GROUND ENGAGED, UH, IN CLEANUP EFFORTS, UM, FOR AREAS THAT MAY BE OCCUPIED, UH, BY, UH, ENCAMPMENTS OF UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS.

WE'LL ALSO BE TALKING IN ADDITION TO THE BUDGETS OF THOSE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS, LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, WHICH, UH, IN SEVERAL CASES, MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS PARTICIPATE IN.

SO WE'LL BE GIVING A SUMMARY THERE.

I THINK, UM, THE HIGH LEVEL, UH, MESSAGE THAT I'D LIKE TO START WITH IS THAT YOU WILL HAVE HEARD.

AND I INDEED, I BELIEVE HEARD ON TUESDAY FROM PARKS AND RECREATION, THAT CLEANUP HAD BEEN A SIGNIFICANT, UM, UH, BURDEN ON THEIR BUDGET OVER THE PAST YEAR.

AND THEY HAD BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME VACANCY SAVINGS, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL CLEANUP, BUT THE

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OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UM, DO SHOW INCREASES IN THEIR CLEANUP BUDGETS, UH, TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, FOR THE COMING FISCAL YEAR.

AND THAT IS BEFORE WE, UM, COMMIT POTENTIALLY SOME AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT DOLLARS, UH, THROUGH A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT LINE ITEM THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY INCREASE THOSE CONTRACT AMOUNTS.

SO I THINK THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE IN RESOURCES THAT SHOULD, UM, DIMINISH THE BUDGETARY PRESSURE WE HOPE ON, ON PARKS AND RECREATION AND SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, WITH THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE EACH A DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR OR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, UH, GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW AND GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE'LL HEAR FROM AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN WE'LL GIVE A QUICK SUMMARY OF THOSE THIRD-PARTY VENDOR CONTRACTS THAT I REFERRED TO BEFORE, UH, WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR KEN SNIPES.

GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL, MAYOR PRO TEM.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR, KEN SNIPES OFF RESOURCE RECOVERY.

AND NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THE MAJOR FOCUS AREAS FOR AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY IS SUPPORTING OTHER DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY.

AS WE CONDUCT A CITYWIDE CLEANUPS OF HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, WE ALSO CONDUCT A NUMBER OF ONE-OFF, UH, ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS AS WELL AND SUPPORTIVE APD ACTIVITIES.

THE BUDGET FOR THIS ACT FOR THIS WORK, UH, DURING THE, UH, FYI 22 PERIOD WAS $1.6 MILLION.

UH, WE ALSO CONTRIBUTED $300,000 TO, UM, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE TOOTH OR THE WORK THAT THE, UH, THE OTHER ONE'S FOUNDATION DOES.

AND THEN ANOTHER $375,000 TO, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, UH, TO HELP SUPPORT THE WORK, UH, THAT TAKES PLACE UNDER THE OVERPASSES.

AND, UH, THE BALANCE OF THAT, UH, THE FUNDING FOR, FOR THE YEAR, UH, INCLUDES THINGS LIKE LANDFILL COSTS, UH, OTHER ACTIVITIES AND, UH, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE SUPPORT, UM, UM, BOTH OUR OWN INTERNAL, UH, ACTIVITIES AND ALSO, UH, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT , UH, THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS TO ALMOST $2.4 MILLION.

UH, THAT INCLUDES CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THE $375,000 TO PUBLIC WORKS.

UH, WE'RE COMMITTING $1.2 MILLION FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO DO WORK ON PARK PROPERTY.

THAT MONEY WOULD COME FROM THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE AND, UH, THAT SHOWS THE TRANSFER TO SUPPORT THAT OF $770,000, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE PERIOD.

ANY QUESTIONS? GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, KATHERINE POOL, HANG ON ONE SECOND.

SORRY.

IT'S MY MIND GONE.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE.

UM, SO ROBUSTLY TO HELP WITH THE FEES NEEDED FOR OUR ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS.

IT REALLY MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

WE HAD A BIT OF A SHORT FALL AND YOU GUYS HAVE FILLED IT REALLY BEAUTIFULLY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY.

YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

I MEAN, THAT'S OUR KITCHEN, SORRY.

OH, REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I'M WONDERING, CAN YOU SPEND A MINUTE AND JUST TALK, TALK TO US HOW THESE FUNDS ARE EXPENDED, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO, UM, UH, TALK A BIT WITH ABOUT, UM, SO THE, YOU KNOW, FOR AN KNOW, SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HAVE ASKED ME, WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING? YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF CLEANUPS AND, AND PRIMARILY I'VE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WE GO IN AND LET FOLKS KNOW THAT A CLEANUP IS GOING TO OCCUR AND HOW, WHAT, WHAT STEPS WE TAKE TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT SEPARATED FROM THE PROPERTY.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT FOR A MINUTE? AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE, BUT IT'D BE HELPFUL IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT AGAIN.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN THE CAMP, THE SIZE OF AN ENCAMPMENT ARE ALL CONSIDERATIONS THAT, UH, ARE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

UM, SO A TYPICAL CLEANUP STARTS WITH NOTIFICATION WHERE A STAFF GOES OUT THAT CONNECT WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITIES.

UH, IT ALSO INCLUDES OPPORTUNITIES TO HELP THEM, UH, CONNECT WITH SERVICES.

UH, WE PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THEM STORE THEIR PERSONAL BELONGINGS, UH, THROUGH ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE MANAGE, UH, CALLED THE VIOLET KEEP SAFE STORAGE PROGRAM.

AND SO WE DO TAKE A PRETTY ROBUST EFFORT, UH, IN TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SEPARATE PEOPLE FROM THEIR PERSONAL BELONGINGS OR THEIR CHAIRS KEEPSAKES, FOR EXAMPLE, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, UM, AS THE, AS THE TEAM CONTINUES TO DO THAT WORK, UH, THE OUTREACH TEAM, THE, UM, THE TEAMS THAT SUPPORT THE CLEANUP EFFORT ARE COORDINATING, UM, THINGS THAT MIGHT CONSIDER THE TERRAIN,

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UM, AND THEN ONCE THE CLEAN UP BEGINS, THERE'S TYPICALLY NO MEMBERS THERE ON THE SITE, ONCE THOSE ACTIVITIES, UH, COMMENCE DO YOU HA IS THERE, IF THIS IS, UM, IF THIS PROCEDURE IS WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE, YOU CAN JUST REFER ME TO THAT.

UM, SO IF I'M A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC AND I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE PROCESS IS, IS THAT, IS THERE A WRITTEN DOCUMENT ANYWHERE THERE IS, AND WE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF REVAMPING THOSE A BIT SO WE CAN GET THOSE TO YOU.

UH, THE KINDS OF THINGS I'M INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THAT I WAS ASSUMING YOU WOULD HAVE IN A WRITTEN DOCUMENT IS, IS HOW MUCH NOTICE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF TIME, UM, AND WHAT PROVIDES NERVOUS NOTICE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME SPECIFICS ABOUT HOW THEY DO IT.

I ASSUME THAT THEY GO ONSITE AND TALK TO PEOPLE, BUT I'D WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH THAT, OF COURSE, UM, CATCHING EVERYONE SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, UH, EVERYBODY WHO'S LIVING AT A PARTICULAR SITE KNOWS, UM, WHEN AND WHAT IS GOING TO OCCUR.

SO I KNOW IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO MAKE SURE AND CATCH EVERYBODY BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT BE THERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE SPECIFICS OF ALL THAT.

AND THAT'S LAID OUT INTO PROCEDURES AND WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THOSE TO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU DIRECTOR.

I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS.

UM, THIS SHOWS THE IMPORTANCE OF, YOU KNOW, THIS MOMENT IN OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS, I KNOW IN 2019 WAS WHEN I CARRIED THE BUDGET AMENDMENT TO CARRY FORWARD THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE.

AND SO THROUGH THE WORKFORCE FIRST PROGRAM, AND THEN TRYING TO EXPAND THAT INTO A CLEAN CREEKS CREW, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INNOVATIVE COLLABORATION WITH THE OTHER ONE'S FOUNDATION AND WITH SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS THAT YOU WORK WITH.

UM, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

CAUSE I KNOW IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, YOU WORKED VERY HARD TO MAINTAIN A, A GOOD LEVEL OF SERVICE AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, THE PICKUP AND BRUSH ITEM PICKUPS HAPPENING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A LOT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, ESPECIALLY DURING THE WINTER STORM, UM, AND REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WORK.

UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD SAY IS IF FOLKS WANT TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE DEPARTMENT'S ATTENTION THAT IS SPECIFIC ABOUT, UM, LITTER AND CREEKS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE RELATED TO ENCAMPMENTS, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY I KNOW WE REACHED OUT TO YOU ON THE BACK END WHEN WE GET REPORTS, BUT IS THERE ANOTHER PROCESS FOR FOLKS THAT JUST SEE SOMETHING IN THEIR COMMUNITY AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE AWARE OF IT TYPICALLY THE MOST CONSISTENT WAY TO DO THAT? COUNCIL MEMBER IS THROUGH THE 3 1, 1 PROCESS, UM, FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

BUT ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT IT ALLOWS US TO KEEP TRACK OF THE DATA, OUR RESPONSE TIMES, UM, AND, UH, TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT DATA GOING FORWARD, WE MAY ADD CERTAIN LOCATIONS THAT COME UP FREQUENTLY TO SOME SORT OF RECURRING, UH, PROCESS FOR REVIEW.

UM, SO THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE THE PROCESS THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME, PEOPLE WILL CALL US DIRECTLY.

UM, AND IF THEY DO THAT, WE STILL RESPOND, BUT, UH, THE MOST EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY IS TO USE THE 3 1, 1 SYSTEM.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT MAY SEE SOMETHING NEAR THEM AND JUST REPEATEDLY SAY TO THEMSELVES, THIS NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP.

THIS NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP, AND THEN JUST NOT BE AWARE THAT THERE'S A PROCESS TO IT.

AND THAT YOU'VE GOT A CREW READY TO BE ABLE TO CIRCLE THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CREEK BEDS ARE BEING CLEANED UP IN A TIMELY FASHION.

SO WE, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING.

LET'S CONTINUE.

LET'S GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE REPORT BECAUSE I THINK THAT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS MAY RELATE TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

SO I THINK LET'S GET THROUGH THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.

EXCELLENT.

SO WE WILL TURN IT OVER NOW TO DIRECTOR JORGE MORALES WITH THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME? YES.

AND REQUESTED THE FULL AMOUNT OF AUTHORITY THAT WE HAD FOR THE ENTIRE CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES FOR, FOR NOT ONLY THE WORK WE DO BECAUSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ALSO USE THE AUTHORITY UNDER THE WATERSHED CONTRACT CURRENTLY, UH, FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, FOR THE F BY 23 BUDGET, WE CURRENTLY HAVE ALSO INCREASED OUR BUDGET TO 1.38 MILLION, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'VE INCREASED THE CONTRACT AMOUNT THAT WE'LL NEED UNDER THE FC CONTRACT.

SO MY NAME IS , I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, AND I DO HAVE MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR REMISS MAY NOTHING HERE.

IF WE GET INTO QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION, A BIT TO COVER OUR SLIDE, UH, I WANT TO FOCUS, UH, THE MAIN PURPOSE FOR THE CLEANUPS FOR THE WATERSHED DEPARTMENT ARE RELATED TO OUR WATERSHED PROTECTION LANDS THAT WE PROTECT.

UM, MANY OF THEM ARE BUYOUT LANDS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, OPEN WATERWAYS CREEKS THAT THAT ARE PART OF WHAT WE, UH, FOCUS ON AS PART OF OUR MISSION TO KEEP MAINTAIN CLEAN.

SO FAR, OUR ENCAMPMENT, UM, CLEANUPS IN FY 2 22, OUR BUDGET WAS INCREASED SLIGHTLY.

I WAS THROUGH A BUDGET WRITER.

UH, SO WE ADDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE TOOTH CONTRACT, UH, MANAGED BY, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH.

SO OUR TOTAL BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR IS 1.14, 4 MILLION, UH, WITH ABOUT 576,000 IN THE CONTRACT FOR THE FC, WHICH IS THE ENTERPRISE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE INC.

THAT'S A CONTRACTOR THAT WE HAVE THROUGH A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT.

UH, YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.

UM, THE BUDGET WAS SAID, BUT BECAUSE OF THE NEED, THE DEMAND, UH, WE ENDED UP MOVING INTO YEAR TWO, YEAR THREE OF THE, THE CONTRACT AMOUNT WE HAD WITH MC.

AND SO WE'VE WENT AHEAD

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BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WE WILL HAVE TO GO TO A NEW SOLICITATION FOR A NEW CONTRACT ALTOGETHER.

UH, AND WE'LL BE DOING THAT IN COLLABORATION WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS A LARGER NEEDS THAT ARE ARISE.

UH, WE ALSO ARE MAINTAINING THE SAME TOOTH AMOUNT OF CONTRACT THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.

UH, THAT'S THROUGH THE APH CONTRACT, UH, AS WELL.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR TO ASSIST US WITH SOME INCOMING CLEANUP, BUT THEY DO A LOT OF LAND VEGETATION WORK FOR US AS WELL FOR THE WATERSHED DEPARTMENT.

IT'S NOT SOLELY ENCAMPMENT CLEANUP WORK.

UH, SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE, UM, THE, UH, BUDGET FOR THE WATERSHED PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND ONCE WE CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM YOU.

THE LARGEST CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE FOUR DEPARTMENTS YOU'VE HEARD FROM AS WELL AS APH, UH, TO THOSE CONTRACT AMOUNTS.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

MIRALIS WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO PARKS AND RECREATION.

GOOD MORNING.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, KIMBERLY MCNEALY, DIRECTOR OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

UM, SO THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AS WE TOLD YOU ON TUESDAY HAS THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO SHARE, UH, IN 2022 FYI, 2022, WE HAVE A BASE BUDGET OF 374,000.

AND THAT BASE BASHIR IS INCLUSIVE OF A SINGLE POSITION THAT HELPS US COORDINATE OUTREACH SERVICES.

WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM, WE CALL THAT PERSON AN OUTREACH COORDINATOR, $108,000 OF THAT BASE BUDGET WAS, IS COMMITTED, UH, TO THE CLEANUP CONTRACT WITH APH TO BE ABLE TO HELP FUND CLEAN UPS WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.

AND THEN THE REST OF THAT FUNDING, THE REMAINING BALANCES, CONTRACTUALS, AND COMMODITIES FOR EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES AND THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH CLEANUP.

AS I TOLD YOU ON TUESDAY, WE HAD SOME MONEY THROUGH VACANCY SAVINGS THAT WE DIRECTED TOWARDS CLEANUP CREWS AND ALSO FOR SECURITY.

AND THEN IN 2023, OUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS THAT SAME BASE BUDGET IS A LITTLE BIT ELEVATED BECAUSE OF THE BASE COST DRIVERS, BUT IT'S THE SAME CONFIGURATION OF, OF, UM, FUNDING ALLOCATIONS FOR THE COORDINATOR, FOR THE CLEANUP AND ALSO FOR THE CONTRACTUALS AND COMMODITIES AND THAT APH AND THE HOMELESS STRATEGY DIVISION HAS COMMITTED THAT $200,000 IN ARPA FUNDING.

AND I BELIEVE EARLIER, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN A PRESENTATION FROM A AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, AND YOU HAD SEEN IN THERE THE ALLOCATION FOR THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE OF THE 1.2 MILLION THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT ON TUESDAY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR MCNEELY WILL, UH, THEN THE, THE FINAL, UH, DEPARTMENTAL PRESENTATION WILL BE, UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

MIKE, LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.

GOOD MORNING.

MARIN COUNCIL, I'M JAMES SNOW, INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

WE ARE THE FOURTH PARTNER THAT WORKS ON THIS, UH, ON THIS AREA.

UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN FEBRUARY, 2019, WE WERE NOTIFIED BY TXDOT THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER BE CLEANING, UH, THE AREAS THAT NEED THE UNDERPASSES.

SO WE ASSUME THAT START THAT IN MAY, 2019, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT TO DATE.

THERE ARE 58 LOCATIONS THAT WE CURRENTLY SERVICE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SUPPLEMENTAL SITES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

THE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS THAT THEY ASKED US COME TO.

BUT OUR MAIN FOCUS IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS A FROM SIDEWALK TO SIDEWALK.

OUR FOCUS IS ALSO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE, THAT NONE OF THE DEBRIS GETS IN THE RIGHT WAY THAT COULD CAUSE HARM TO EITHER THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE OR THE PEOPLE SURROUNDING, UH, TO DATE WE'VE SERVICED, UH, 1,839 SITES, AND ABOUT PICKED UP UP 1400 TONS OF MATERIAL.

OUR BUDGET IS STABLE FROM 21, 22 AND 23.

WE HAVE $200,000 AS CONTRIBUTED.

WE DO MANAGE THE CONTRACT AND OUR PARTNER AR HELPS FUND AND ALSO WORKS WITH US UNDER THAT CONTRACT.

AND WE DO HAVE TWO TIME FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT HELPED DO THE INSPECTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ALSO COORDINATE THE SERVICES.

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

CAN I MOVE ON TO THE LAST SLIDE? SO YOU'VE HEARD FROM FOUR DEPARTMENTS TODAY WHO ARE, UH, DAILY INVOLVED IN THE MANAGEMENT OF PUBLIC SPACES AND CLEANUPS OF ENCAMPMENTS.

UM, IN SOME CASES, UH, THERE ARE ENCAMPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ABANDONED, OTHERS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN ENFORCEMENT AND STILL OTHERS, WHERE THERE MAY BE CLEANUPS AROUND, UM, EXISTING ENCAMPMENTS.

THE THREE, UH, CONTRACT SOURCES LISTED HERE REPRESENT

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SO AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, AS YOU LIKELY KNOW, HAS, UH, MANAGED A CONTRACT WITH THE OTHER ONE'S FOUNDATION WHO EMPLOYS PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS, UH, AND DO WORK IN A VARIETY OF PUBLIC SPACES AS YOU'VE HEARD BOTH PARKS, UH, AND IN WATERSHED PROPERTIES.

UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF RESA LISTENING, UM, THAT CONTRACT AT PRESENT THE SOLICITATION HAS CLOSED.

SO WE DO NOT HAVE THE FINAL AMOUNT, UH, NOR, UM, CAN WE CONFIRM WHO THE VENDOR WOULD BE, BUT IT IS A SOCIAL SERVICE CONTRACT.

IT IS LIMITED TO PEOP UH, EMPLOYING PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AND WE ADDED $3 MILLION OF ARPA FUNDS TO THAT OVERALL SOLICITATION FOR EMPLOYMENT SERVICES FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

SO YOU SEE HERE, UM, JUST, UM, OVER, UH, $780,000, THAT IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE UTILIZED FOR CLEANUP PURPOSES.

WE ANTICIPATE WITH THE ARPA RESOURCES THERE THAT THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT WOULD BE, UM, AS MUCH OR MORE AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT WE'LL NEED TO WAIT FOR THE FORMAL OUTCOME OF THE SOLICITATION.

UM, AND THEN THERE IS THE FC CONTRACT, UH, MANAGED BY WATERSHED THE RELIEF ENTERPRISE OF TEXAS CONTRACT MANAGED BY PUBLIC WORKS.

AND IN THE FOOTNOTE HERE, YOU'LL NOTE THAT AS A DIRECTOR SNIPES MENTIONED, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL $1.2 MILLION IN AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, CLEAN COMMUNITY FEE FUNDS THAT WILL BE CONTRACTED IN FISCAL YEAR 23, WHETHER THROUGH ONE OF THESE CONTRACTING, UM, PROCESSES, UH, FOR THE EXISTING CONTRACTS OR A SEPARATE SOLICITATION, UH, WE'LL LET THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS, UH, DETAIL FOR YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED.

AND WE ARE READY TO TAKE QUESTIONS.

COLLEAGUES COME TO REMEMBER POOL.

I JUST WANTED ONE MORE TIME TO SAY THANKS TO, UH, AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, THAT GAP BETWEEN THE 300,000 AND THE 1.2 MILLION WAS IDENTIFIED EARLY ON.

AND, UM, DURING THE SPRING AND LEADING UP TO TODAY, UM, MY TEAM WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH DIRECTOR SNIPES AND HIS FOLKS AND OUR BUDGET OFFICE, AND A NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS TO BRING THAT HOME AND SUPPORT THE WORK THAT THE CITY STAFF WANTED TO DO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE ADDITIONAL ENCOURAGEMENT TO FIND, UH, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WAS, UH, SIGNIFICANT IN US GETTING TO THAT HIGHER NUMBER.

UM, COLLEAGUES SHOW YOU'LL NOTE THAT I AM NOT BRINGING ANY, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS, UH, THIS YEAR, MYSELF.

I'M NOT LEADING ON ANY OF THEM, ALTHOUGH I AM SUPPORTING MANY OF THEM.

SOME OF THAT IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT I HAD, UH, DEPLOYED MY STAFF TO DO SOME WORK IN ADVANCE OF THIS WEEK TO GET SOME OF THESE THINGS, UM, MORE FULLY FLESHED OUT.

AND, AND WE WERE JUST FORTUNATE THAT THESE WERE ALL MISSIONS THAT EVERYBODY WAS, UM, VERY FOCUSED ON AND SUPPORTIVE OF.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THESE INTO THE BUDGET AND JUST A HEARTFELT DEEP THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO WORKED WITH MY TEAM ON THIS AND A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS, UM, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, I SO APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK.

WE HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL REVENUES IN FRONT OF US TO DEPLOY APPROPRIATELY AND RESPONSIBLY.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THOSE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE STAFF IS ALSO ABLE TO STEP UP TO FILL SOME OF THESE GAPS IN ADVANCE OF THE ADDITIONAL WORK WE'LL BE DOING FROM THE DYNAS.

THANKS MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES QUESTIONS ON THE, UH, ON THE CLEANUP ISSUE.

COUNCILMEMBER .

YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

REMEMBER, MAYOR, UM, MRS. GRAY.

I'LL JUST, WHEN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT, IS THE STATE OFTEN ANY KIND OF SUPPORT AT ALL? ARE THEY THERE, ARE THERE ANY GRANTS OUT THERE TO HELP CLEAN UP THESE? UH, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF STATE PROPERTY HERE AND I'M INCLUDING AN UNDERPASSES WHERE WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF TRASH ACCUMULATE IN THE PAST.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING, IS, IS THE STATE OFTEN ANY KIND OF FINANCIAL SUPPORT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY COUNCIL MEMBER RUNNING? THAT'S, THAT'S A REALLY SAD PART OF THE STATE HERE AND THAT SUPPORT IN US.

YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF SERVICE OUT THERE AND CLEANING UP AND ALL WE GOT GET FROM THE STATE AS CRITICISM AND NO SUPPORT.

SO, BUT I REALLY WANT TO THANK YOUR DEPARTMENT AND ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS FOR THEIR EFFORTS OF KEEPING THE CITY CLEAN.

AND I WANT TO THANK

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UH, KELLY AND I GOT REMEMBER TOTO.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER WENT TO RIO.

YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE STATE.

I WAS WONDERING, UM, IF YOU WERE AWARE OF ANY FUNDS COMING FROM COUNTIES THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASSIST WITH SOME OF THESE CLEANUP EFFORTS, I'M SORRY, FUNDS COMING FROM COUNTIES, SUCH AS TRAVIS COUNTY, HAYS COUNTY, WILLIAMSON COUNTY, SINCE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNSHELTERED EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ALSO RESIDE IN THE COUNTY.

SO I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK TRAVIS COUNTY OR THE OTHER COUNTIES, WHETHER, UM, WHAT THEIR EXPENDITURES MIGHT LOOK LIKE ON THAT.

I DON'T HAVE DATA ON THAT AT PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER.

THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANKS FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS IS VERY HELPFUL TO SEE HOW IT FALLS OUT ACROSS DEPARTMENTS.

AND I KNOW SOME OF, SOME OF OUR DEPARTMENTS LIKE PART AND WATERSHED, I THINK WATERSHED ACTUALLY BROUGHT US A CONTRACT LONG BEFORE WE WERE HAVING THESE KIND OF GLOBAL CONVERSATIONS AROUND IT.

UM, THEY BROUGHT US A CONTRACT TO CONSIDER AN IDEA TO CONSIDER AS PART OF OUR BUDGET PROCESS, UH, TO INVEST IN AND SHOW THAT WE'RE CLEANING OUR, OUR CREEKS.

THAT WAS SOME TIME AGO.

I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING KIND OF WHAT THE TOTAL, THE TOTAL PICTURE IS.

SO AS I, AS I, UM, I ACCOUNTED FOR IT IN 2022, IT LOOKS LIKE ACROSS THESE DEPARTMENTS, WE INVESTED 4 MILLION, $317,930 IN CLEANUPS.

IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT 4 MILLION, 553,962.

SO IT IS, IT, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS GOING TO BE A HIGHER INCREASE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY ABOUT A $200,000 INCREASE.

SO I MAY WANT TO LET, UM, UH, BUDGET OR THE DEPARTMENT SPEAK TO THIS.

I DO WANT TO SAY THE BUDGET WAS LOWER IN THE PAST, BUT HARD UTILIZED VACANCY SAVINGS THAT WERE NOT INTENDED TO COVER THE DIFFERENCE.

UM, THE OTHER THING I DO WANT TO MENTION IS THAT IN THE CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE, UM, ARE THE LARGEST CONTRACTS WITH THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS.

WE DO SEE OTHER DEPARTMENTS CONTRIBUTE AND DRAW ON THOSE CONTRACTS, UH, ON THE AUTHORITY AT TIMES, AUSTIN WATER, AUSTIN ENERGY, WHEN THEY HAVE A SITE THAT NEED MAY NEED SERVICED.

UM, BUT, UM, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT OVERALL THE BUDGETED AMOUNT IS HIGHER.

UH, WE DID HAVE EXPENDITURES THAT, THAT EXCEEDED BUDGET FOR CLEANUP ACTIVITIES IN FISCAL YEAR 2022.

AND I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT WITH REGARD TO PARDES.

SO, AND WHAT I, WHAT I THINK I UNDERSTOOD FROM WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED IS THAT THERE MAY BE AN AUSTIN ENERGY SITE THAT NEEDS CLEAN UP.

THEY'RE NOT USING THAT.

SO, BUT THEY WILL, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY DO THAT, ARE THEY JUST USING THE SPENDING AUTHORITY OR ARE THEY, IS THAT ACTIVITY ACTUALLY CHARGED TO WHATEVER DEPARTMENT IS STEPPING INTO ASSIST? YEAH, SO I'D LIKE TO EITHER LET PROBABLY A DIRECTOR MIRALIS OR A PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SPEAK TO THE MECHANICS OF THAT.

THANK YOU, DIANE.

I'LL GIVE IT A STAB, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOPO.

THEN REIMBURSING THAT DEPARTMENT.

OUR CONTRACTS HAVE OTHER THAN AUTHORITY IN THE CONTRACT AMOUNT, BUT WE ALLOW OTHER FUNDING SOURCES LIKE AUSTIN ENERGY OR PARKS HAVE USED OUR CONTRACT AUTHORITY AS WELL.

SO LIKE DIANE SAID EARLIER, OUR BUDGETS HAVE BEEN LOWER, BUT BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND, THE NEED WE'VE GONE UP AND EXPENDED MORE, UH, FOUND OTHER SAVINGS TO BE ABLE TO COVER MORE.

AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY OUR CONTRACT THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE Y'ALL LAST YEAR.

UH, WE'LL BE COMING BACK SOON TO ASK FOR AN INCREASE IN AUTHORITY BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY REACHED THE AUTHORITY OF A MULTI-YEAR CONTRACT BECAUSE WE HAD TO USE THAT AUTHORITY FROM YEARS OUT OUT BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND.

UH, OUR BUDGET DID INCREASE, UH, FOR, FOR , BUT IT'S ALSO JUST KEEPING UP WITH THE ADDED, UM, FUNDING THAT WE DID EXPEND ALREADY IN 22.

SO, SO IN THE, IN THE INSTANCE I DESCRIBED WHERE AUSTIN ENERGY, WHERE THERE'S AN AUSTIN ENERGY SIDE, THEY'RE USING YOUR SPENDING AUTHORITY, BUT THEY'RE AT, BUT THE WORK IS BEING PERFORMED ON AN AUSTIN ENERGY SITE IS AUSTIN ENERGY.

ARE THEY USING THE SPENDING AUTHORITY, BUT USING THEIR OWN DOLLARS? THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY USE THEIR OWN FUNDING SOURCE.

WE NEVER EXCHANGED FUNDING SOURCES.

IT'S ONE CONTRACT THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE, UH, THROUGH THEIR AUSTIN ENERGY FUNDING SOURCE.

OKAY, THANKS.

SO, OKAY.

THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

COLLEAGUES BROUGHT UP THE TECH STOCK SITUATION.

BUT IN TERMS OF LIKE OVERALL EXPENDITURES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THEM IN THAT 4 MILLION, 4 MILLION, 317,000.

IF WE WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE SPEND AS A CITY IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD COVER THAT'S THE TOTAL COUNCIL MEMBER.

I THINK THAT'S A CLOSE APPROXIMATION.

THERE MAY BE SCENARIOS IN WHICH PARTICULARLY THESE ONE-OFF SITUATIONS WHERE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT MAY MOVE SOME MONEY, YOU KNOW, INTO A, A CONTRACT.

UM, THAT NUMBER COULD, COULD BE SLIGHTLY INCREASED OR DECREASED, BUT I THINK IT'S IT IT'S QUITE CLOSE.

UM, THANKS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN TALKING ABOUT IT, SEVERAL OF MY

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AND CAN YOU REMIND ME, I KNOW YOU'VE MENTIONED IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION OR SOMEONE DID, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DID MENTION THE YEAR THAT THE STATE INDICATED THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER GOING TO MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY.

WHAT, WHAT YEAR WAS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER? JAMES SNOW'S INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

IT WAS A FEBRUARY, 2019 THAT WE'RE ADVISED.

WE PICKED IT UP ON MAY, 2019, AND WE CONTINUED TO DATE.

NOW I WANT TO MAKE ONE, UH, ONE CORRECTION HERE IS THAT TEXTILE IS STILL A PARTNER HELPING US DO SOME OF THE CLAIMS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE DEDICATED FUNDING.

SO THEY DO, WE DO HAVE A MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THEM AS FAR AS FOR MAINTENANCE.

SO THEY DO DO SOME, UH, UH, PERIPHERY AREAS FOR US.

BUT WE SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON OUR YOUNGER PASSES AND MR. SMITH DIRECTOR OF SNOW.

DO YOU, WOULD YOU SAY THAT 200,000, IS THAT 200,000 PRIMARILY BEING FOCUSED ON, ON THE STATE PROPERTIES? THE UNDERPASSES? YES, SIR.

YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AT THE TIME, AND I THINK I WOULD WANT TO REVISIT, MAYBE I'LL DO THIS OUTSIDE OF AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT IT MIGHT BE WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.

UM, IN A LEGAL, FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THE 200,000 INITIALLY WAS FOR THOSE 57 AREAS.

WE HAVE BEEN, UH, SINCE YOU'VE ALL SEEN THAT SLOWLY, THAT WE WE'VE HAD A DOWN RAMP WITH PEOPLE UNDERNEATH THE UNDERPASSES WE'VE BEEN USING, UTILIZING THAT MONEY FOR OTHER ONE-OFF SITES HAVE BEEN DONE, NOT JUST TXDOT SITES.

SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE DO IT.

AND SO MUCH OF WHAT, UH, DIRECTOR MORALES, WHAT WE DID WAS EVEN THOUGH WE SAW THE F UH, THE KNEE GO DOWN IN THE UNDERPASSES, WE KEPT THE AUTHORITY OPEN.

SO OTHER, OTHER, UH, DEPARTMENTS, OR IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE IN THE RIGHT WAY THAT WE COULD WORK WITH, WE WOULD TAKE CARE OF.

SO WE, WE SAW THAT NEED BECAUSE AS WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE MOVE TO OTHER PLACES, SO WE UTILIZE THE CONTRACT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE AND KEEP FLEXIBILITY IN THE CONTRACT THAT IF IT'S NOT FUNDING THAT WE CAN USE, OTHER PEOPLE CAN USE IT.

OUR PUBLIC SPACE PARTNERS TO CAPTURE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CONDITIONS IN THOSE ENCAMPMENTS.

THANKS VERY MUCH, YOU KNOW, AMONG OTHER THINGS, I THINK THIS REALLY, WE ALWAYS GET QUESTIONS AND BY ALWAYS, I MEAN, PROBABLY ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK, I, I EITHER GET AN EMAIL ABOUT, OR I SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA QUESTIONS ABOUT, ABOUT Y Y YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOME WHY THE CITY IS NOT MAINTAINING THESE SPACES, WHETHER THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A PARK SPACE OR AN UNDERPASS.

AND I THINK THIS INDICATES THAT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND LOTS OF FUNDING, UM, AIMED AT MAKING SURE THAT OUR PUBLIC SPACES ARE CLEAN AND SANITARY FOR ALL WHO USE THEM.

AND SO, UM, IT'S CERTAINLY, UH, A COMMITMENT THAT THE CITY HAS IT'S IT SEEMS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SEE, I GUESS WHETHER THE NEED IS BEYOND WHAT BEYOND THE FUNDING LEVEL THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED, BUT I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE IT AND TO TRY TO MEET THAT NEED.

I AM CONCERNED AND LOOKING THROUGH PARTS, AND I THINK WE KIND OF HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TO SOME EXTENT THE OTHER DAY I AM PART HAS REALLY SHOULDERED A LOT OF THE EXPENSE OF THIS, OF THIS WORK.

AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT, THAT THEY SPENT AN ADDITIONAL $975,000 LAST YEAR, THAT THEY HADN'T CONTEMPLATED.

AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY COMES DIRECTLY AT THE EXPENSE OF PUBLIC PROGRAMS AND OUR PARKS OR OUR RECREATION CENTERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH NEXT WEEK AND THE BUDGET, I WONDER AS THERE ARE PARKS, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT COME FORWARD, I HOPE WE KEEP THAT IN MIND.

I HAVE A COUPLE MYSELF, BUT THIS ISN'T ENTIRELY, UM, ABOUT SORT OF PUMPING UP THOSE AMENDMENTS THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD, BUT IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT OVERALL PART, PART BOARD, YOU KNOW, THIS AS WELL OUTSIDE THE MISSION DOING THIS IS KIND OF WELL OUTSIDE THEIR MISSION.

AND I THINK, UM, I THINK WE MIGHT CONSIDER THAT VERY LARGE EXPENDITURE THAT THEY MADE.

AND THEN, I GUESS, JUST TO GET BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WAS ASKING DIRECTOR SNIPES ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE SHOULD CALL OR HOW PEOPLE SHOULD CALL.

I HOPE THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD THAT PLACE IN THE PROCESS RECONSIDERATION, WHERE WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE KIND OF A ONE-STOP SHOP.

UM, SO THAT, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, AN ORDINARY AUSTIN, I DOESN'T HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, IS THIS A PARKSIDE? IS THIS A TXDOT, OR THEY'RE NOT CALLING COUNCIL OFFICES SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE IT BE APPEAR TO BE SEAMLESS FROM THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE.

SO EVEN IF IT'S MORE COMPLICATED ON OUR CITY SIDE, AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING TOWARD THAT, BUT I WONDERED IF I JUST WANTED TO INVITE YOU TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRESS THERE AND WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE, UM, CONSTITUENT YES.

CALLING THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING US, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AROUND, UH, UH, AN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

I THINK THAT WILL LET US STREAMLINE OUR APPROACH TO THIS WORK, UM, TO HAVE BETTER INFORMATION, TO BE CLEAR ABOUT WHY AND HOW WE'RE PRIORITIZING SITES, UM, TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND SO WE EXPECT TO, UH, ESSENTIALLY TURN ON THAT HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT MANAGEMENT, UH, TEAM, UH, FORMALLY WITH A NEW STRUCTURE AND SOME NEW TOOLS PROBABLY BY THE END OF THE MONTH, UH, THAT IS USING A MOBILE, UH, ENCAMPMENT ASSESSMENT TOOL THAT WILL ALLOW

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UH, IN THE, THE UNIT OF ANALYSIS HERE IS NOT SO MUCH A, WE'RE NOT WORKING AT THE INDIVIDUAL LEVEL, BUT LOOKING AT THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CONDITIONS IN THE ENCAMPMENTS, AND THEN TRACKING SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WHICH, AND CAMP MINTS ARE COMING TO THE TOP FIRST FOR US TO WORK ON, UH, BOTH IN TERMS OF CLEANUP IN TERMS OF HEAL, ET CETERA.

UM, AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE AMONG THE TASKS WE HAVE AS WE, UH, LAUNCHED THIS STRUCTURE IS, UH, LOOKING AT THOSE, UH, CITY-WIDE PROTOCOLS AS DIRECTOR SNIPES MENTIONED.

AND ALSO WE KNOW, UM, THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION FLOW RIGHT NOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THE MOST, UM, EFFECTIVE WAY IS 3, 1, 1, BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO TRACK IT MORE CLEARLY.

IF IT COMES IN THROUGH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, THERE'S NO CENTRALIZED WAY FOR US, UM, TO KIND OF HAVE VISIBILITY INTO THAT, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY ON OUR, OUR, UH, AGENDA OF ITEMS THAT WE'LL BE WORKING ON IN THIS LARGER STRUCTURE, UH, OVER THE UPCOMING MONTHS.

THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR MADE THIS POINT ON TUESDAY AND MAYBE OTHERS DID AS WELL.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WAY TO END HOMELESSNESS IS BY INVESTING IN HOUSING.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU ARE, ARE LEADING THAT CHARGE HERE AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT, AT THE BUDGET FOR CLEAN OUTS AND FIND THAT IT'S MAYBE WHO KNOWS MAYBE EVEN AT ZERO, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB OF HOUSING INDIVIDUALS, NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN A PARK OR UNDER AN ALLEY UNDER AN OVERPASS OR IN AN ALLEY.

AND SO THIS IS, I HOPE, UM, UH, AN AREA OF OUR BUDGET THAT WILL DISAPPEAR IN THE YEARS TO COME SO THAT ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE SAFE AND STABLE HOUSING.

UM, I GUESS WE ARE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE COUNTS, REMEMBER KELLY.

SO IT COMES FROM HER KITCHEN AND COMES TO REMEMBER VILLA.

UM, I MAY, I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THIS IS THE TIME TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS OR DIANE, I'M NOT SURE CERTAIN, I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER ASPECTS OF THE BUDGET RELATED TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.

NOT SPECIFICALLY, WHY DON'T YOU HOLD THAT? WE GET ALL THESE QUESTIONS, BUT BEFORE WE LET DIANA GO, WE'LL OPEN IT UP MORE BROADLY ON HOMELESSNESS.

ANY ONE SPOT THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND? SURE.

UH, CATHERINE AND BELLA, JUST A FEW BROADER QUESTIONS.

SO THE, THE MAJORITY OF CAMPS ARE THEN ALONG, YOU KNOW, WATERSHEDS, UNDERPASSES AND PARKS.

I MEAN, IS THAT THE SITUATION? I THINK THAT, YES, IF YOU TAKE THOSE THREE AREAS, YOU WOULD PROBABLY CAPTURE THE MAJORITY OF, OF ENCAMPMENTS OF UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS.

AND WHAT ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THOSE AREAS? WHAT OTHER PLACES DO YOU SEE THAT WHERE PEOPLE ARE CAMPING? I MEAN, WE, WE SOMETIMES SEE FOLKS ON PRIVATE LANDS.

UM, WE SEE THEM ON PUBLIC LANDS THAT MAY BE, UM, UNDEVELOPED, BUT ARE NOT PARKLAND, UM, IS, IS NOT UNCOMMON.

AND SO WE'LL SAY ALSO THAT THE AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERIES, UM, WORK AND STAFFING IS MORE FLEXIBLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SORT OF THESE COMBINATION OF RESOURCES BEING COGNIZANT OF WHERE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT DEPENDING ON THE FUNDING SOURCE, UM, TO DATE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COVER THE VARIOUS, UH, THE VARIOUS SCENARIOS THAT WE'VE ENCOUNTERED AND ANY SENSE IN TERMS OF LIKE LOOKING AT THE POPULATION AND WHERE THEY ARE ANY SENSE OF, WHAT KIND OF A PERCENTAGE OF BREAKDOWN AS TO, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY ARE IN WATERSHEDS? HOW MANY ARE, YOU KNOW, IN UNDERPASSES, HOW MANY ARE IN PARKS? I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAZARD A PERCENTAGE BREAKDOWN, BUT I WILL SAY THAT SINCE, UM, THE BEGINNING OF THE ENFORCEMENT OF BOTH OUR LOCAL AND STATE CAMPING, UH, BANDS, THAT THE NUMBER OF FOLKS, UH, AS PEOPLE WILL HAVE APPRECIATED UNDER, UH, UNDERPASSES HAS DECREASED.

UM, AND WE PROBABLY ARE SEEING AN INCREASED NUMBER IN WOODED AREAS TO INCLUDE PARKS, UH, AND OTHER, OTHER, UH, UNDEVELOPED AREAS.

GOT IT.

AND THAT, I MEAN, THAT DEFINITELY TRACKS WITH THE ANECDOTAL, UH, YOU KNOW, REPORTS AND JUST OBSERVATIONS, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THEN ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, I OFTEN GET ASKED, UH, I MEAN, THIS IS PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I'M OUT AND ABOUT, AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW, TALKING POLITICS IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU KNOW, WITH HOMELESSNESS, WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT IS HE DOING? IS THERE, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I CAN KIND OF GO THROUGH AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS AND WE'VE GOT THIS HOUSING, THE PIPELINE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, BUT IS THERE A, UH, YOU KNOW, A ONE BEST LOCATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN RESPOND AND SAY, THIS IS KIND OF A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF WHAT THE CITY IS DOING IN TERMS OF CLEANUP, IN TERMS OF HOUSING, IN TERMS OF SUPPORT SERVICES,

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SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE.

UM, AND SO THAT WILL BE ONE SITE.

THE OTHER PLACE I WOULD SAY IS THAT THE ECHO WEBSITE, SO ENDING COMMUNITY HOMELESSNESS, COALITION MAINTAINS DASHBOARDS, NOT ONLY ABOUT WHAT THE CITY IS DOING, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

JUST TO FOLLOW UP, OBVIOUSLY, A LOT OF MONEY BEING SPENT ON CLEANUP, WHICH IS REAL IMPORTANT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BE, UM, UM, ADDRESSING THE, THE CHALLENGE OF, OF HOMELESSNESS FOR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

PERHAPS THIS IS IT'S THE MOST VISIBLE POINT.

SO IT'S A POINT WHERE THE PUBLIC IS LOOKING AND ENGAGING HOW WE'RE DOING WITH THE, UM, OR, UH, LONG-TERM, BUT STILL A SHORT TIME GOAL TO, TO END HOMELESSNESS IN, UH, IN THE CITY.

SO I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE ENTIRE CONTEXT INTO, INTO PLACE.

CERTAINLY, UH, I SEE THE SAME SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND GET THE SAME INQUIRIES, UH, IN MY OFFICE WITH RESPECT TO AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO BE DOING BETTER.

AND I URGE THE PUBLIC TO CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE.

IT IS MY OFFICE AND YOUR OFFICE, SO THAT THOSE PLACES CAN BE PRIORITIZED AND WE CAN BRING HELP TO PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT, UH, I THINK THAT ALL THE DIFFERENT STAFFS ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN THE SCALE OF THE CHALLENGE, UH, THAT THEY, THAT THEY FACE, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS, BIG ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT TOOK MOST OF OUR ATTENTION AND MOST OF THE COMMUNITY'S ATTENTION FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, NOT ONLY ON CLEAN UP THAT WORK, THE OTHER STAFFS ARE DOING, UH, DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING ON THAT, BUT THE, THE BROADER AND LONGER TERM EFFORT, WHICH I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY GET INTO QUESTIONS TO ACTUALLY, UH, END HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY, UH, RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE A CHALLENGE.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE SAME PATH AS, AS LA AND SAN FRANCISCO AND SEATTLE, AND THE LIKE, AND I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT WHILE THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT, THAT BECAME FRONT AND CENTER MORE THAN PROBABLY ANYTHING ELSE IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH DROVE US, I THINK, AND IN PART TO HAVE THE RESOLVE AND THE WILL TO SPEND THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, AND TO PRIORITIZE THIS, TO ACTUALLY END HOMELESSNESS.

THIS IS NOT THE MAIN ISSUE IN THE MAYOR'S RACE, UH, IN OUR CITY, IN THIS ELECTION.

WHEREAS WE HAVE AN ELECTION GOING ON IN LA RIGHT NOW, AND IT CONTINUES TO BE THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE, UH, IN THAT RACE.

AND WE SAW THAT IN SEATTLE AND SAN FRANCISCO.

SO I THINK AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING AND IDENTIFYING AREAS WHERE WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE, UH, THE PROGRESS THAT, THAT WE ARE MAKING ON THIS, UH, A REAL SIGNIFICANT, UH, CHALLENGE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS FOR THIS WORK MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO I THINK THIS QUESTION FITS HERE, UM, GOOD MORNING.

UM, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER I HEAL SITE HAS COMPLETED THE PROCESS IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT? SO, UM, ONCE FOR, SO OF COURSE, UM, FOR HEAL SITES, WE GO IN, WE DO OUTREACH THERE.

WE OFFER INDIVIDUALS, UM, ACCESS, UH, TRANSFER TO BRIDGE SHELTER, 90%, UM, OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS OFFERED SHELTER, TYPICALLY, UH, ACCEPT, UM, AND MOVE INTO BRIDGE SHELTER WHERE THEY'RE CONNECTED WITH LONGER-TERM HOUSING RESOURCES AS WELL.

UH, OUR PUBLIC SPACE PARTNERS, AS WE'VE DESCRIBED TODAY, THEN COME IN, UM, AND DO CLEAN UP OF THAT SITE.

UH, WE ATTEMPT TO DO THAT WITHIN A NUMBER OF TWO TO THREE DAYS, DEPENDING ON THE SITE.

SOMETIMES IT TAKES A BIT LONGER.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE SITE IS, UM, ON THE RADAR, CERTAINLY OF OUR HOST TEAMS, ET CETERA, TO BE MORE PRESENT, TO BE DOING OUTREACH THERE, THAT MAINTAINING THAT THIS IS A SITE THAT HAS BEEN CLEARED AT THAT POINT.

IT DOES BECOME LIKE ANY OTHER SITE IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, A SITE WHERE CAMPING IS, UM, NOT LEGAL AS IT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY.

WHAT WE HAVE BEGUN DOING IS ASKING OUR DISTRICT REPS TO BE PARTICULARLY COGNIZANT OF THOSE SITES, UM, AND HAVING THEM ON THEIR RADAR.

SO THAT IF, UM, A, UM, IF AN ENCAMPMENT BEGINS TO REESTABLISH, THEY COMMUNICATE THERE.

WE ALSO, IN SOME SITES HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, DEPENDING ON THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE PHYSICAL, THOSE ARE BUILT ENVIRONMENT OR LANDSCAPING, UM, THAT, UH, THAT SORT OF REACTIVATES THE SPACE, UH, IN ANOTHER WAY.

SO IT TRUSTS THIS LIBRARY.

THERE WERE PLANTINGS AS WELL AS AT, UM,

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AT LADY BIRD LAKE AS EXAMPLES.

CONSTITUENTS WHAT HAPPENS FOR A HEAL SITE IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT AFTER THE FACT, I'M STRUGGLING TO BE ABLE TO, TO ARTICULATE, UM, HOW WE'RE CURRENTLY ABLE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO TELL PEOPLE THAT WE'RE COMPLYING WITH OUR STATE LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT SAY THAT CAMPING IS NOT ALLOWED AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST IT'S, IT'S CHALLENGING.

I APPRECIATE THIS.

AND I, I WANNA, I WANNA MOVE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THIS QUESTION AND MAYBE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HAD DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES THAN WE'VE HAD.

UM, AND I WANT TO PREFACE THIS, THAT I THINK THAT THE HEAL INITIATIVE IS A GREAT INITIATIVE.

I WAS PROUD TO CO-SPONSOR, UM, THAT INITIATIVE, UM, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

UM, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME ELEMENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE MISSING, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE SITE HAS BEEN CLEAN, CLEANED, OR WE'VE USED IT AS A HEAL SITE AND PROVIDED THE TRANSITION TO HOUSING, ET CETERA, UM, BOTH WITH RESPECT TO THE CLEANUP ISSUES, BUT ALSO IN TERMS OF THE PRESENCE OF CAMPING, UM, AND OTHER RELATED ISSUES.

SO THE SITE THAT I WANT TO BRING UP IS 180 3 IN OKINO.

UM, THAT SITE HAS GONE THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS, UH, BUT CAMPING HAS BEEN REOCCURRING ON AND OFF, AND IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME.

WE HAVE AN ORGANIZED METHOD FOR RESPONDING.

UM, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LIKE 15 PEOPLE THAT ARE SHOWING UP TO RECUR.

IT'S A SMALL NUMBER WHICH WOULD POTENTIALLY BE MANAGEABLE, MANAGEABLE.

UM, AND IF YOU'LL BEAR WITH ME, I WANT TO JUST SHARE AN EMAIL BECAUSE IT BEARS IT, THIS BEARS ON THE QUESTION OF BRINGING IN THE DISTRICT REPS AND HOW THAT'S WORKING.

SO WE RECEIVED THIS EMAIL ON JULY 12TH, UM, SORRY TO BOTHER YOU, BUT THE GUY CAME BACK TO THE INTERSECTION RIGHT AFTER I EMAILED YOU.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST TEMPORARY, BUT HE'S TOTALLY MOVED IN AGAIN AND IS LIVING UNDER THE 180 3 OVERPASS WITH HIS TRASH SPREAD OUT BELOW.

I CALLED 3 1 1 LAST WEEK AND ALSO LEFT A MESSAGE FOR OUR APD DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE TODAY.

THERE'S NOTHING MORE THAT WE CAN DO AS RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE'VE CALLED BOTH 3, 1, 1, AND APD, AS WE'VE BEEN ADVISED TO DO FROM WHAT OUR APD DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE OFFICER SAID.

WHEN I SPOKE WITH HIM A FEW WEEKS AGO, THIS WON'T BE CLEANED UP BY THE CITY ANYMORE AS TEXTS THAT DOES THAT NOW, WHICH IS MAYBE EVERY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS.

THE CAMPER IS THE SAME GUY WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR WELL OVER TWO YEARS AND CONTINUES TO COME BACK WITHIN A DAY OR TWO AFTER EVERYTHING IS REMOVED.

SINCE OAK KNOLL IS PART OF THE HEAL INITIATIVE.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE SINCE HE HAS A REPEAT VIOLATOR IN HIS RECEIVED TWO VIOLATIONS? IT'S NOT ONLY THAT HE TRASHES THE AREA, BUT WHEN HE IS PANHANDLING AT THE INTERSECTION, HE'S VERY AGGRESSIVE AND UNSTABLE APD.

AND 3, 1 1 SAID THEY WOULD LET THE HOMELESS OFFICE KNOW, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE THEY HAVE DONE ANYTHING IN THE PRIOR EMAIL THAT WE GOT ON JUNE 30TH, THE CONSTITUENT EXPLAIN, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE UNDERCLASS WAS CLEANED UP ON TUESDAY 6, 28.

THANKFULLY THEY HAD A HUGE DUMPSTER TRUCK AS THE GUY HAD THROWN TRASH OVER THE ENTIRE HALF OF THAT SIDE AND ADDED CARTS, A BABY CAR SEAT, ATTEND AND JUNK IN GENERAL, OVER THE LAST WEEK, OUR APD DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE OFFICER ALSO CALLED ME BACK THAT SAME DAY TO LET ME KNOW THAT IT WAS TXDOT, WHO DID THE CLEANUP.

HE UPDATED ME, THAT CLEANUP IS NOW THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TRANSIT REGIONAL AUTHORITY DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS STARTED ON THE TOLL WAY BETWEEN MOPAC AND 45.

HE SAID THEY ONLY COME OUT EVERY FOUR TO SIX WEEKS, BUT IT WAS NOT A CITY OF AUSTIN CLEANUP ANYMORE.

HE MENTIONED THAT IS NOW CONSTRUCTION ZONE.

SO CAMPING IS NOT ALLOWED, BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WILL BE MONITORED.

OTHER THAN THE WORKERS REPORTING CAMPERS.

I KNOW THAT IT HASN'T HELPED MUCH AT BREAKER AS THEY SEEM TO BE CAMPING AROUND ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT HAS BEEN MOVED IN OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

OUR APD DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE OFFICER ALSO SAID THEY ISSUED A VIOLATION TO THE GUY ON TUESDAY, WHICH IS HIS SECOND ONE AT THE INTERSECTION.

HE SAID, THE GUY WAS THE SAME ONE WHO WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION THAT WAS CLEANED UP BY THE CITY A FEW WEEKS AGO.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE HE WAS GIVEN HIS FIRST VIOLATION.

THEN OUR AP DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVE OFFICER WAS SO NICE AND TOOK THE TIME TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING THAT I MENTIONED ABOVE.

HE SAID OAK KNOLL IS STILL A HEEL INTERSECTION, EVEN WITH THE CONSTRUCTION ABOUT TO START AND TO CONTINUE TO REPORT ANY ISSUES TO 3, 1, 1, AS THEY WILL BE SENT TO APD AND THE HOMELESS OFFICE, THE GUY WAS BACK YESTERDAY, UNFORTUNATELY WITH HIS PALLET BIKE AND WAS PRETTY DRUNK, BUT HE WAS GONE THIS MORNING.

SO I GUESS IT WILL BE FOR US TO REPORT IT TO 3, 1, 1.

SO THAT IS WHAT MY OFFICE RECEIVED.

THIS IS IN THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT WE RECEIVE WHEN WE CONTACTED STAFF IN THE H.

AND SO ABOUT THIS SITE, I'M NO LONGER MONITORING THAT INTERSECTION FOR RETURNING POPULATION.

I CAN PASS THIS ON TO ABD, BUT I SUSPECT YOU WOULD GET A SWIFTER RESPONSE.

IF YOU REFER DIRECTLY TO THEM, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? SO NOW WE HAVE A HEEL SITE.

IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

WE HAVE MULTIPLE INSTANCES OF RECURRING CAMPING, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOLD TO CONTACT 3, 1, 1, AND THAT THE HSO WILL BE NOTIFIED, BUT ALSO TELLS MY OFFICE THAT THEY AREN'T INVOLVED.

THEN WE HAVE APD INVOLVED IN APD, GIVES MULTIPLE CITATIONS, WHICH MY OFFICE HAS VERIFIED WITH APD THAT THIS IS TRUE.

AND YET THE PERSON IS STILL THERE.

THEY RECEIVED MULTIPLE CITATIONS AND EVEN WORSE.

I CAN'T TELL THAT THEY'VE BEEN CONNECTED WITH SERVICES IN ANY WAY.

THIS DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF A FUNCTIONAL SYSTEM, AS WE ARE CONSIDERING AN INCREASE IN FUNDING TO COMPONENTS OF THIS.

CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW OUR SYSTEM IS RESPONDING TO THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS AND WHAT MY OFFICE NEEDS TO DO TO GET A RESPONSE THAT CONNECTS THE PERSON WITH SERVICES AND ENSURES COMPLIANCE WITH PROP B AND THE CONTOURS OF THE HEAL INITIATIVE.

AND I KNOW THAT'S A LOT AND I'M HAPPY TO GIVE IT TO YOU IN WRITING, BUT WE'VE BEEN GOING ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE ALONE.

AND I THINK WE'RE ALL DOING THIS IN OUR OWN

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SITUATIONS.

AND AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE, MANY, WE NEED TO SURFACE THE PROBLEMS AND WE HAVE TRIED TO DO THIS AND MANY OTHER FORUMS AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW WE MAKE THIS FUNCTIONAL AND IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE MORE MONEY.

SO YES, AND I, IT IS A LOT THERE.

I THINK I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS THERE, RIGHT? ENFORCEMENT IS AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE CREATED THE STRUCTURE AND ARE LAUNCHING IT IS THAT THE HEAL INITIATIVE WAS STARTED.

WE DID NOT HAVE A COMMUNITY-WIDE BAN ON PUBLIC CAMPING, RIGHT? UM, WE, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN THE PARKS, ET CETERA, BUT THOSE WERE THE SITES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

WE ARE FACED WITH AN IMMENSE INFLOW OF INFORMATION ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS, ET CETERA.

UM, AND STAFF IS DOING THEIR BEST AND WE ARE CREATING A STRUCTURE THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO EFFECTIVELY PRIORITIZE SITES.

DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE CAN GUARANTEE THAT A SINGLE PERSON AT A PARTICULAR SITE IS GOING TO BE GONE TOMORROW? PROBABLY NOT, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RESOURCES FOR HEAL, WHICH IS TO HOUSE PEOPLE, RIGHT.

AND THAT PIECE IS REALLY NOT RELATED TO THE PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT.

WHICH IS ENFORCEMENT AND CLEANUP, I BELIEVE TO ALSO OUTREACH PERHAPS, BUT THAT WE WILL ALSO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE UTILIZING THIS SYSTEM TO GET CLEARER ABOUT HOW THAT INFORMATION COMES IN, UM, WHAT HAPPENS.

AND TO SOME DEGREE, I THINK WE DO HAVE TO BE HONEST ABOUT WE'RE MAKING HUGE PROGRESS, BUT MANAGEMENT OF EXPECTATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE HATE THE INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN CITED.

THERE HAS BEEN ENFORCEMENT, THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE, UM, OF THE ORDINANCE IN THAT CASE IS A CITATION.

SO THERE MAY BE FURTHER ENFORCEMENT, UM, BUT IT IS A CLASS C MISDEMEANOR CURRENTLY.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION WE RECEIVE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TONS OF IT EVERY DAY AS WELL.

AND I THINK WE CAN GET CLEARER, BUT I ALSO WANT TO BE, I THINK, REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT WE CAN, UM, TELL THE PUBLIC WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO, UM, ALWAYS STRIVING FOR IMPROVED PERFORMANCE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I, I REALIZED THAT I PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THESE BUDGET DECISIONS AND WE'RE DOING IT IN A REALLY TIGHT TIMEFRAME.

AND THERE'S NOT EXACTLY A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO HAVE GAZILLION SEPARATE MEETINGS, UM, ONCE WE'VE HAD THE BUDGET.

UM, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE ISSUES HERE THOUGH, AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OR CLEAN UP, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THIS PERSON HAS BEEN CONNECTED WITH SERVICES AND, AND WHETHER, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE A RECURRENCE OF, OF, OF ONE INDIVIDUAL IN PARTICULAR, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE, WHO ARE COMING.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU JUST SAID THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TEXTS, THAT'S NOT DOING ANY CLEANUPS AND NOW APD IS TELLING THEM IT'S NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, IT'S TXDOT.

UM, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, I SAID, THERE WAS NO FUNDING FOR US FOR CLEANUPS.

THAT WAS THE SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED, BUT I SHOULD HAVE, YES, WE'VE BEEN TOLD AT OTHER TIMES THAT THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LACK OF CLARITY OVER WHO'S RESPONSIBLE AND WHO THEY SHOULD BE, WHO PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONTACTING, WHETHER IT'S OUR OFFICE OR OTHERS.

UM, AND, AND WE HAVE HAD THIS CONSTANT BACK AND FORTH AND EVERYTHING FOR THREE YEARS NOW WHERE ONE DEPARTMENT TELLS US IT'S THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER ONE TELLS US THE OTHER ONE AND NOBODY SEEMS TO BE TALKING TO EACH OTHER.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING HARD ON THAT.

UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW ANY MORE HOW I'M SUPPOSED TO GET, YOU KNOW, HOW WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING RAISED BECAUSE WE GET CAUGHT IN THIS VORTEX AND IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY, EVERY SINGLE TIME.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MORE RESOURCES AND MORE RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO GET THIS TO FUNCTION BETTER.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCES, IF THEY HAVE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, UM, FIGURED OUT WAYS TO NAVIGATE IT.

I, I WOULD APPRECIATE HEARING THAT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WE CAN, CAN GET SOME FOCUS ON THIS, THIS HILLSIDE, AS WE BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION, AND I WILL SHARE, UM, THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EMAILS WITH YOU.

SO YOU CAN TAKE A CLOSER, UH, CLOSER, UM, LOOK, I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO RESOLVE THIS AND IN THE ONE CONVERSATION, BUT, BUT I DO THINK WE, AS A COUNCIL HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THESE PROBLEMS ARE STILL VERY REAL AND, AND, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY CAN I NOT TELL TO MY

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UM, YES.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR FOR TIM FOR, UH, FOR RAISING THAT ISSUE AND, AND THANK YOU MS. GRAY FOR YOUR RESPONSE.

UM, I DO WANT TO, TO SHARE A PERSPECTIVE, UM, THE HEALING MISSION AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE HEAL INITIATIVE, DOESN'T STOP WITH THE HOUSING, THE INITIATIVES THAT WE PASSED HAD A COMPONENT FOR PLACEMAKING FOR THE PLACES THAT ARE HEAL LOCATIONS.

AND SO THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY THAT IS NOT AN APD ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.

SO IT IS PART OF HEAL.

UM, AND SO THEY, AND I THINK WE HAVEN'T YET FOUND A WAY TO DEAL WITH THAT.

SOME LOCATIONS ARE WORKING IN SOME ARE NOT, WE, WE NEED W WHAT WE DESPERATELY NEED IS A SPECIFIC W WHEN WE PLAN A HEEL LOCATION, THE PLACEMAKING AT THE END SHOULD BE PART OF THAT PLANNING, AND THERE SHOULD BE FUNDING FOR THE PLACEMAKING ASPECT OF IT TOO.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MENTIONED THE LIBRARY THAT WORKED THERE WERE PLANTINGS, UM, IN THE AREA, WHAT WAS DONE THERE WAS, THERE WAS, UM, POLLED POLES TO DELINEATE THE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE AREA, WHICH HAS HELPED TO SOME EXTENT, BUT WHAT'S, WHAT'S MISSING IS WHEN WE PLAN A HILLSIDE, IT DOESN'T STOP AT FOLKS BEING MOVED AND GOING TO SHELTER.

AND THEN WORKING, THERE HAS TO BE A PLAN FOR THE LOCATION.

NOW I'M UNDERSTANDING FROM, FROM PREVIOUS EFFORTS THAT THERE, UH, FROM PREVIOUS REPORTS, THAT THERE WAS AN EFFORT GOING ON TO, TO DEVELOP A CROSS DEPARTMENTAL WAY TO ADDRESS THAT, UH, BECAUSE EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE APPROPRIATE PLACEMAKING.

SO I'M NOT CERTAIN WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS.

NOW, MY LAST UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FOR EACH HEAL INITIATIVE, ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD BE CHARGED WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ADDRESSING THAT HEAL LOCATION.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WAS UNDER AN OVERPASS THAT WOULD BE, UM, H THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, IF IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, WHICH WOULD BE THE, UM, UH, THE EXAMPLE THAT THE MAYOR PRO TEM BROUGHT UP, UM, THAT IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT IF IT WAS IN A PARK, IT WOULD BE WATERSHED.

BUT, SO HERE'S, HERE'S A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION.

DO THOSE DEPARTMENTS HAVE FUNDING TO ADDRESS PLACEMAKING AT SITES? THERE IS NO FUNDING SET ASIDE FOR HEAL SITES.

THEY MAY HAVE IN THEIR BUDGETS FUNDS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THAT PARTICULAR SITE, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS OR FUNDS THEY CAN DRAW ON.

YOU TO PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER.

AS A MATTER OF COURSE, FOR SOME IMPROVEMENT TO THAT SITE.

AND SO IN THE STRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED, UH, THERE IS AN OPERATION SECTION WHEN WE HAVE A HEEL SITE, OR FRANKLY, ANY OTHER SITE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME INTERVENTION THAT AN OPERATIONAL PLAN IS DEVELOPED.

UM, AND I THINK WHAT WE AGREED WAS THAT, PARTICULARLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE HEEL SITES, THERE WOULD BE, UM, A PIECE OF THAT PLAN THAT SPOKE TO IMPROVEMENTS OR REPAIRS OR WHATEVER, UM, WOULD BE THE CASE IN THAT SITE, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEY'RE GIVEN THAT THERE IS NO DEDICATED FUNDING FOR THIS EFFORT THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THAT LANDOWNING DEPARTMENT, OR, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE OF TERASA, UM, THERE WAS WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON, UM, AND, AND AT BUFORD TOWER, THE TRAIL FOUNDATION, I BELIEVE INVESTED SOME FUNDS IN SOME BEAUTIFICATION THERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOR EACH HEEL SITE TO DATE, WHICH DEPARTMENT IS, IS THE LEAD DEPARTMENT FOR THE PLACEMAKING.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT.

AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, WHAT FUNDS THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS PLACE-MAKING IN THAT LOCATION.

AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND FOR EACH SITE, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR PLACEMAKING IN THAT SITE? I REALIZED THAT, UM, MS. GRAY, THAT YOU ARE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'RE RELYING ON OTHER DEPARTMENTS, UH, FOR THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND THEIR BUDGET.

SO I'M NOT EXPECTING

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I GUESS I'LL LOOK AT MS. LANG TO SEE IF, IF SHE CAN PULL THAT TOGETHER.

CAUSE THERE'S A BUDGET QUESTION.

I DON'T THINK THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND FROM OUR DEPARTMENTS WHAT THEIR CHALLENGES ARE, AND IT COULD BE THAT THEY NEED SOME FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR EACH SITE WHEN PLACEMAKING COMES UP.

BUT I CAN'T, WE CANNOT LEAVE.

I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT IS PART OF WHAT IS, DOES THE HILLSIDE, THE HILL INITIATIVE IS DESIGNED TO DO BECAUSE IT'S TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO OUR COMMUNITY IS TOTALLY FRUSTRATED.

I GET, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MAYOR, PORT, TIM.

AND IT JUST, IT JUST, UM, IT JUST DOES NOT, UM, HELP IN TERMS OF DEMONSTRATING THE VALUE OF THE HEAL INDUSTRY.

IF WE'VE LEFT OFF A PIECE OF IT, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE.

SO MS. LANG, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE.

I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN WRITING FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.

I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER IF THERE'S ONE OR MORE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT NEED SOME DEDICATED FUNDING FOR HEAL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT PLACE-MAKING IS CHALLENGING AND SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE MORE CHALLENGING THAN OTHERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.

WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY ABOUT PARKS AND SIGNAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS IN A DIFFERENT CONTEXT.

IT WAS MORE, IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS THE, UM, Y FINDINGS, BUT WE ALSO HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT SIGNAGE RELATED TO CAMPING.

SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.

IF, IF PART IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LOCATION AND NEEDS SOME SIGNAGE, THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO DO THAT.

SO, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST SAY, I TOTALLY APPRECIATE HOW CHALLENGING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN PLACE A NEW PROGRAM LIKE THE HEAL INITIATIVE HAS BEEN, AND I'VE, I AM VERY, UH, PLEASED AT THE PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN HELPING PEOPLE GET INTO SHELTER AND INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY GOOD EFFORTS AND GOOD, GOOD, SOLID, SUCCESSFUL RESULTS THERE.

BUT, UM, LIKE THE MAYOR PRO TEM IS SAYING, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE THING.

SO, UM, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS.

AND, UM, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION AS A DIES ABOUT WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A DEPARTMENT THAT NEEDS SOME FUNDING THAT'S DEDICATED FOR THAT I WANT TO HEAR FROM THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEIR CHALLENGES ARE TOO.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THERE REALLY NEEDS TO BE SIGNAGE THAT SAYS, THIS IS NOT AN AREA WHERE CAMPING IS ALLOWED.

UM, IN THE EVENT THAT ANY OF MY CONSTITUENTS ARE LISTENING, I JUST WANT TO ASSURE THEM THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SITUATIONS LIKE THE ONE THAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE REFERENCED, UM, THROUGHOUT DISTRICT NINE.

AND JUST BE ASSURED THAT I'VE HAD MANY, AN EMAIL, UM, PRETTY MUCH ONE A WEEK TO VARIOUS FOLKS, WHETHER IT'S OUR CITY MANAGER OR TO DIANA.

AND I KNOW, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON FIGURING OUT HOW BEST TO, TO RESPOND TO THESE SITUATIONS.

AND I THINK YOU ADDRESSED IT.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE SITUATE, WE HAVE ENCAMPMENTS IN MULTIPLE PLACES, AND IT'S VERY, VERY CHALLENGING TO UNDERSTAND, TO, TO HAVE THE RESOURCES AND THE STAFF CAPACITY.

UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK CONTINUING TO ADDRESS THIS AND CONTINUING TO REFINE AND IMPROVE THE PROCESS.

I DO WANT TO SAY COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT PLACE-MAKING.

AND I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT IN THE DESIGN THAT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD WITH HEEL.

I WE'VE NEVER REALLY DISCUSSED HOW TO ADDRESS IT WITH REGARD TO HILLSIDES THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE NOT LIKE THE BUFORD TOWER.

UM, I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE OF ONE IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH WAS A HILLSIDE IN WEST BUILDING CREEK I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE.

UM, IT WAS A SUBJECT OF HEAL.

THERE WAS A LAG IN TERMS OF GETTING THE, UM, SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT HAD BEEN LEFT BEHIND ONCE INDIVIDUALS, UM, WERE PLACED INTO BRIDGE SHELTER.

THERE WAS A FIRE, UM, THAT RESULTED, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEN IT WAS, I ASSUME, EVENTUALLY CLEARED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THAT FAR OUT AND IT IS NOW AN ENCAMPMENT AGAIN.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING REPEATED EMAILS FROM NEIGHBORS IN THAT AREA WHO HAVE GONE, YOU KNOW, UH, GLOVED UP AND GONE IN THERE AND, AND STARTED TO, TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CLEANING, BUT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT FIRES.

AND THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, AGAIN, THE ACCUMULATION OF, SO WE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO IN THOSE AREAS WHERE WE'RE ARE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE BACK IN THE SAME SITUATION A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER, IF, IF THERE'S NOT SOME ADDRESSING AND IT'S NOT, AS, YOU KNOW, IT IS AN AREA THAT'S VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I THINK IT'S SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROGRESS WITH HEEL IS, IS NOT JUST, UM, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO THEN, YOU KNOW, HOUSE INDIVIDUALS IN ANOTHER AREA AND NOT BE REPEATING THE SAME KIND OF CLEANUP THERE.

I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ON TUESDAY ABOUT SIGNAGE AND, AND I THINK THERE WERE SOME DIFFERENT THOUGHTS EXPRESSED ABOUT WHAT THAT SIGNAGE MIGHT BE.

BUT I DO THINK, I THINK, ESPECIALLY IN CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THAT, WHERE A SITE HAS BEEN, UH, BEEN PART OF HEAL,

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YOU MAY NOT, YOU MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, COOK THERE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT HERE, I THINK WE DO NEED TO START PUTTING THE KINDS OF SIGNS UP HERE AND THERE TO REMIND PEOPLE WHAT, WHAT THE RULES ARE AND, AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE.

AND CERTAINLY WHAT SOME OF THE DANGERS ARE AND, AND COOKING, UM, OR STARTING A FIRE IN ONE OF OUR GREENBELTS, ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW IS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TO THE INDIVIDUALS IN CLOSEST PROXIMITY, UM, AT THAT ENCAMPMENT AS WELL AS THEIR NEIGHBORS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE AREA.

SO I HOPE THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARD THAT AS WELL.

IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, PLACEMAKING MAY NOT BE, I GUESS MY POINT IS PLACEMAKING MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO SOME OF THE HILLSIDES, BUT WE STILL NEED A SOLUTION THERE.

WELL, BUT MY DEFINITION OF PLACE-MAKING, I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULDN'T USE A TERM LIKE THAT.

WHAT I MEAN IS WHAT WORKS FOR A PARTICULAR SITE TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

AND SO, UM, WHICH IS REALLY HOW DO YOU CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION? AND CAN YOU CHANGE THE CONFIGURATION OF A SPECIFIC SITE? YOU KNOW, IN SOME CASES IT MIGHT BE SIGNAGE.

IN SOME CASES IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE.

SO MAY I SAY ONE MORE THING THERE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION YESTERDAY WITH SOME OF OUR APD REPRESENTATIVES AND OTHERS, THE OTHER CHALLENGE HERE, AND THIS IS ONE THAT I THINK OUR CITY STAFF FACE EVERY DAY AS THEY APPROACH SOME OF THESE AREAS AND SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THESE AREAS, THERE'S, THERE'S NO PLACE TO TELL PEOPLE TO GO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND I'VE HEARD THIS FROM STAFF IN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, I WON'T CALL OUT THOSE DEPARTMENTS NOW, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE ARE SITTING ON THE DAYAS, WE'RE NOT OUT IN THE FIELDS, UM, EXPLAINING TO INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY CAN'T BE IN A CERTAIN PARK, OR THEY CAN'T BE AT THE RENAISSANCE MARKET, OR THEY CAN'T BE ON THE SIDEWALK AND BEING FACED WITH THE QUESTION, WHERE SHOULD I GO INSTEAD? AND WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ON THIS DIOCESE.

I BROUGHT FORWARD SAY, UM, THE RESOLUTION ABOUT CREATING SAFE CAMPING AREAS, UM, ONE IN EVERY DISTRICT AND, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL, SEVERAL PEOPLE, UM, EXPRESS VERY PUBLICLY.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE SANCTIONED CAMPING AREAS.

AND SO THIS IS UNTIL WE CREATE SANCTION CAMPING HERE UNTIL WE HAVE ENOUGH HOUSING, WHICH OBVIOUSLY SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS AND SHOULD BE OUR, OUR GOAL THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY HAVE ACCESS TO A SAFE AND STABLE HOUSE UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT.

I REALLY THINK THAT THIS CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO ADDRESS, SETTING UP SANCTIONED, CAMPING AREAS.

SO THAT, THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS ON THE STREET OR CITY STAFF WHO ARE INTERACTING WITH INDIVIDUALS, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, HAVE SOMEPLACE TO TELL THEM TO GO, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IN ESSENCE ARE UNSANCTIONED CAMPING AREAS ALL OVER THE CITY AND THEY'RE NOT SAFE AND THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO RESTROOMS AND IT'S FRANKLY, UNCONSCIONABLE.

UM, SO I HOPE THAT WE, I HOPE THAT WHEN I SAY WE, IT MAY NOT BE SEVERAL OF US HERE ON THE DIOCESE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I, I DO THINK IT, I DO THINK THAT, UM, IT'S A CONVERSATION THAT, THAT WE SHOULD RE-ENGAGE, UH, BUT THE CITY SHOULD RE-ENGAGE AND, YOU KNOW, URBAN ALCHEMY HAS EXPERIENCE IN THIS.

THEY TALKED TO US ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND AS PART OF THEIR CONVERSATION, UM, LAST WEEK ABOUT THE ARCH, AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE TO PURSUE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, W FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD HERE, THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE, AND WE HAVE MADE PROGRESS TOWARDS SOME OF OUR COUNCIL GOALS.

UM, I DO WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT, THERE IS A PARK IN MY DISTRICT, TANGLEWOOD PARK ON RUSTIC ROCK DRIVE IS VERY CLOSE TO A MIDDLE SCHOOL CANYON VISTA MIDDLE SCHOOL.

AND I HAVE BEEN GETTING FLOODS OF EMAILS FROM CONCERNED CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THAT PARK.

UM, THEY HAVE GONE INTO THE PARK TO TRY AND HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, BUT IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING SOMETIMES WHEN WE PUT IN A COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE FORM THE INFORMATION THAT WE GET BACK FROM OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES, OR EVEN YOUR OFFICE AS A WHOLE.

AND DO YOU WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TOWARDS YOUR OFFICE FOR BEING RESPONSIVE AND FOR OUR DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES, WE ARE ANY VERY TOUGH POSITION AND THE HEAL INITIATIVE HAS HELPED US REACH A LOT OF OUR HOUSING GOALS ON COUNCIL.

SO FOR THAT, I'M APPRECIATIVE BACK TO COUNCIL MEMBER.

TOVO HIS POINT ABOUT THE SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS? THAT'S A CONVERSATION I WOULD LIKE TO, TO BRING UP AGAIN, TO TALK ABOUT, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW FROM SPEAKING, I KNOW FROM GOING INTO THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS WITH THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE OF, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT TAKE OR ACCEPT HOUSING, BUT THEY STILL NEED A SAFE PLACE TO BE WHERE THEY CAN ACCESS RESOURCES TO HELP LIFT THEM OUT OF THEIR SITUATION, IF THAT IS WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DISCUSSION AGAIN, OR MAYBE EVEN A BRIEFING ON WHAT OUR OPTIONS MIGHT BE.

UM, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING TO OUR FEEDBACK, APPRECIATE IT, THE CLEANUP CONVERSATION AND THE CAMPS AND THE, AND THE CAMP AREAS.

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UM, OBVIOUSLY A RECURRING CONVERSATION FOR US AND FOR THINGS WE'VE ASKED YOU AND STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT, AND IT IS, AND I AGREE, UH, WITH MY COLLEAGUES THAT, THAT HAVING ANYBODY CAMPING IN THIS CITY AND TENT IS ABSOLUTELY UNCONSCIONABLE.

UM, AND THE QUESTION IS HOW, HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THAT? AND HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET OUT OF THAT? AND WHAT'S THE BEST PATH TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THERE JUST TO DOUBLE BACK AND ADDRESS IT IN THE SECOND.

IT'S BEEN YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF YOUR OFFICE THUS FAR THAT WE NOT INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN SANCTION CADBURY'S, IS THAT CORRECT? SO, UM, THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GAVE COUNSEL LAST SUMMER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WHEN THIS WAS LAST ON THE TABLE, WAS THAT, SHOULD THAT BE A DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTED US TO TAKE, IT WAS GOING TO TAKE RESOURCES AND TIME.

SO, UM, CITING SANCTIONING CAMP MINTS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN SHELTERS, EVEN IN SHELTERS ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SITE.

WE, UM, IDENTIFIED ZONING ISSUES.

SO IT WAS NOT SIMPLY POINT TO A PARCEL OF LAND AND TURN IT INTO A SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT, BUT IT WOULD TYPICALLY THE SITES THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED CITY OWNED SITES WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH REZONING, UH, AND THAT THE COST WAS COMPARABLE.

UM, IN SOME CASES TO SHELTER, UM, FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, OBVIOUSLY NOT QUITE SO MUCH FROM A CAPITAL STANDPOINT.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SEEING, UH, ESPERANZA COMMUNITY IS EXPANDING.

UM, IT IS ESSENTIALLY A SANCTIONING CAMP AT RUN BY A NONPROFIT.

UM, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE SEEKING ADDITIONAL OPERATING FUNDS.

WE HAVE HAD AN OPEN SOLICITATION FOR CRISIS FUNDING.

UM, SO THERE COULD CONCEIVABLY BE SOME OF OUR SUPPORT IN THE EXPANSION OF CAMP ESPERANZA.

UM, BUT AGAIN, IT IS ONE OPTION, BUT I JUST DO WANT TO CAUTION.

CAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN WE THINK LET'S HAVE SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS, THE SENSE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD ONE SANCTION ENCAMPMENT IN EACH, EACH DISTRICT YOU'D STILL NEED TO ACCOMMODATE 250 PEOPLE ON EACH OF THOSE TO ACCOMMODATE THE UNSHELTERED POPULATION, THAT'S A VERY LARGE SITE, RIGHT.

AND, UM, WITH NOT, NOT INSIGNIFICANT COST.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR US, WE HAD KIND OF COME TO THE END OF THE ASSESSMENT OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY, UM, AND PRESENTED THOSE BEST OPTIONS TO THE CITY.

UM, FELT LIKE THERE WERE OTHER WAYS FOR US TO CREATE SHELTER MORE QUICKLY, WHICH WE DID.

WE SET UP NORTH BRIDGE AND SOUTH BRIDGE SHELTERS THAT SAME SUMMER.

UM, SO IT IS, I THINK IT'S NOT A HARD, NO, UM, THE AMENITIES TEND TO BE RICHER IN A SHELTER, UH, NON CONGREGATE SHELTER IN PARTICULAR THAN SANCTIONING CAMERON, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT IT COSTS AND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS RATHER THAN ASSUMING IT IS GOING TO BE QUICK AND INEXPENSIVE.

AND IT'S HARD TO DO.

AND WE HAVE SOME CITIES THAT HAVE FOCUSED ON, UH, SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS, ILLUSIONS, AND MADE OTHER CITIES ARE KIND OF TRAPPED IN THAT.

I MEAN, NOW THEY'RE JUST FEEDING ALL THEIR MONEY TO SUSTAIN A GROWING NUMBER OF SANCTIONED CAMP AREAS, AS OPPOSED TO, TO ACTUALLY HOUSING PEOPLE AND KEEPING THEM OFF THE STREET AT THE SAME TIME.

I THINK IT IS PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AND CERTAINLY THE WORK THAT HAS BRONZE IS DOING IS REALLY VALUABLE TOO.

I JUST DON'T WANT US TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, THAT IT'S WITHIN OUR REACH TO, TO, TO GET ON A PATH, TO END HOMELESSNESS RATHER THAN JUST DEAL WITH DEAL WITH IT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER, BUT I RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO, TO PERHAPS INVEST MORE MONEY.

AND THEN IN AREAS WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE, THE CAMPER IS, CAUSE WE'RE ALL HEARING FROM THAT FROM OUR, FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THE LIKE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, I WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE DOLLARS AWAY FROM ACTUALLY WORKING TO END HOMELESSNESS TO GET IT DONE.

UM, I, I LOOK AT IT AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES ANY SENSE AT ALL, BUT THE CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS, THE FIRST ITERATION OF THAT WAS INTENDED TO HIRE PEOPLE WHO WERE EXPERIENCING, UH, HOMELESSNESS.

AND WE WERE HIRING THEM TO HELP WITH CLEANUP IN, IN ACTIVITIES, IN THE LIKE, UH, IT, IT GREW AS A CONCEPT FOR ME IN TERMS OF THE CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS.

AND, AND A LOT OF THE WORK NOW IS BEING DONE BY, BY KIDS IN THE AMERICAN YOUTH WORK, UH, WORK.

BUT I HAVE ASKED FOR THE, THE OBJECTIVE NUMBERS AND KIMBERLY, I APPRECIATE THE MATERIAL.

I GOT THIS MOSTLY QUALITATIVE WORK.

I'M STILL LOOKING FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? HOW MANY KIDS OR PEOPLE DO WE HAVE OUT? ARE THEY MOVING TO, UH, OTHER KINDS OF JOBS? UH, SO, SO AT SOME POINT I'D STILL LIKE TO GET THAT OBJECTIVE INFORMATION, BUT I WONDER IF PART OF THE FUNDING, UH, FOR THAT PROGRAM, UH, THAT IS IN PART DESIGNED TO WORK LIKE THE, SO CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS DID BACK.

IF THIS IS WHERE WE'RE GETTING SO MANY CALLS, IF THIS IS WHERE OUR COUNCIL OFFICES

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ARE GETTING SUCH A VOLUME.

AND I THINK THAT IT IS MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROGRAM, IN ADDITION TO THE, THE FIRE PROTECTION WORK OR OTHER THINGS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON IT MAY BE PART OF THAT EFFORT, UH, SHOULD BE, UM, ALSO HIRING PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO, TO HELP WITH, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, THE ENCAMPMENT, UH, AREAS OR THE RETURN OR CAMPAIGN AREAS THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

UH, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THAT TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S VIABLE FOR US TO, TO CONSIDER AS A COUNCIL, AS OUR VALLA, THEN THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

CAN I JUST CORRECT SOMETHING? CAUSE THAT HR POLICY WAS NOT CREATED TO PROVIDE WORK FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE HOMELESSNESS.

THAT'S THE WORK THAT THE TWO FOUNDATION HAS BEEN DOING AND THAT'S, UM, THE PROJECT THAT HAD BEEN SUPPORTED THROUGH THE CLEAN COMMUNITY FEES, BUT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ELLISON AND, UM, TRANSPLANT POOL WE'RE WORKING ON, UM, THE CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS WAS TO HELP PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY COULD BECOME HOMELESS IF THEY HAD NO JOB, BUT IT WAS NOT PARTICULARLY TARGETED AT THAT.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE COULDN'T, UM, ENGAGE WITH THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN HPLC AND THE HOMELESS STRATEGY TO BE LOOKING AT PLACE-MAKING IN THESE HEAL INITIATIVES.

UM, IT IS NOT PRECLUDED IN ANY WAY FROM HIRING HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, BUT THAT IS NOT THE FOCUS OF THAT PROJECT.

THAT IS MORE, UM, THE TWO PROJECT.

UM, AND SO IT'S JUST TWO DIFFERENT, UH, PROJECTS THAT I DON'T WANT TO GET MIXED UP.

AND THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PIVOTED FROM PROVIDING, UM, SUPPORT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC TO EQUITABLE GREEN JOB PATHWAYS.

AND THERE ARE CERTAINLY WAYS THAT ONE COULD THINK ABOUT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THAT.

AND ALSO THERE WAYS THAT CITY DEPARTMENTS WHO WANT TO SHARE FUNDING MIGHT BE ABLE TO DEPLOY THESE, THESE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN THE CORPS TO ASSIST WITH THESE PROJECTS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT CONFLATING, UM, TWO DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT YOU'RE OPEN TO TAKING A LOOK AT THAT PRIORITY BECAUSE I THINK AS I HEAR FROM THE DAYS AND WHAT I SEE THAT THAT'S A REAL CONCERN KIND OF IN AN EMERGENCY WAY.

AND I KNOW THE, THE, THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD AS IT WAS SETTING UP PROBABLY DIFFERENT ONES OF US HAD DIFFERENT GOALS IN MIND.

AND THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES IN MIND IS THAT WAS BEING SET UP IN CONVERSATION WE HAD WHEN WE WERE TAKING THE ARPA DOLLARS AND, AND MOVING INTO PLACES TO HELP PEOPLE, UH, THAT WERE MOST IMPACTED, UH, FOR ME, UH, THAT WAS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF, OF, UH, THAT PART OF THAT BUDGET, WHERE WE WERE DEALING WITH PEOPLE, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AS OPPOSED TO YOUTH, WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM TOO, NOT SO MUCH IMPACTED BY, BY, BY, BY COVID AT THE TIME, BUT IN ANY EVENT, REGARDLESS OF, OF HOW WE GOT HERE, I'M HAPPY THAT YOU'RE OPEN TO TAKING A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THIS MIGHT BE A PLACE, UH, UH, GIVEN THE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS WE HAVE, WHERE IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS MORE THAN, THAN ONE POSSIBLE NEED.

UM, IF WE DID THAT MAYOR, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, CONSTRUCTED VERY CAREFULLY.

WE HAD, UH, UH, A UT GROUP DO A STORY OF MAP AND PROCESS WITH RESPECT TO THE TRIPLE C, WHERE THEY LISTENED TO THE STORIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO WENT THROUGH THE CONSERVATION CORPS.

UM, AND THERE WERE CERTAIN REALLY INTERESTING FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FROM THE CORPS MEMBERS.

YOU HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING IN PARKS, UM, WHERE THEY WERE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

UM, AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THE EXPERIENCES, UM, THAT THEY'RE EXPRESSING, UM, ABOUT THE WORK AND THE NATURE OF THE WORK AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ENGAGING THEM, UM, IN, IN, IN WAYS THAT ARE CONSISTENT, UM, WITH THE PROCESS AND TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE FEEDBACK THAT THE CORPS MEMBERS THEMSELVES HAVE GIVEN US, UM, IN THAT REGARD, WE DO HAVE THAT GOING BACK TO THE, THE HEAL, UH, INITIATIVE.

I JUST WANT TO DESCRIBE MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE PROGRAM ON ST JOHN'S, UH, AND OUR 35 AT THE HOME DEPOT PROPERTY, UH, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, DAYS AFTER I TOOK OFFICE.

AND ALSO ON THE OTHER SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF ST.

JOHN'S AND I HAD 35, THERE WAS ALSO, I BELIEVE, A HEAL INITIATIVE TARGETING TO MOVE, IS THAT CORRECT? EAST OF , BUT ONE WAS TO THE WEST OF THE HOME DEPOT AND ONE WAS TO THE EAST OF THE HOME.

DO YOU KNOW? AND THE, IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION.

UH, THE, EVERYBODY THERE WAS, UH, HOUSED AND TO THIS DAY, ALTHOUGH, AND AGAIN, I HAVE TO GIVE PROPS TO THE HOME STRATEGY OFFICE, YOU KNOW, APD, UM, UH, AUSTIN RESOURCE RECOVERY, UH, PARTS ALSO, THERE'S A SMALL, UH, ST JOHN'S

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NEIGHBORHOOD PARK RIGHT THERE.

UM, THEIR OFFENSE WAS PUT UP TO RESTRICT THE, UH, THE, UH, LAND UNDEVELOPED LAND, WHERE ALL THE CAMPING WAS TAKING PLACE.

YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARK HAS BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, CLEANED UP AND IMPROVED.

IT'S NOT PERFECT.

I STILL GET CALLS FROM, ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORS WHO, UH, BUT THE, UH, THE UNDEVELOPED LAND THERE THAT, HEY, SOMEONE HAS CUT THROUGH THE FENCE AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN THERE, BUT THE SITUATION HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED.

I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK WAS INVOLVED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

UH, AND I APPRECIATE IT AGAIN.

I KNOW IT'S NOT PERFECT.

I DRIVE BY THERE AND I SEE FOLKS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I MEAN, SETTING UP, HANGING OUT WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT THEY'RE IN MY EXPERIENCE AND IN THE OTHER HEAL INITIATIVE SITES THAT, UH, I HAVE SEEN WHILE AGAIN, IT MAY NOT BE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF, UH, OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATION OF CAMPING, THE, UH, DISTURBANCE, UH, THE CLEANLINESS, THE, THERE IS A MEASURE OF KIND OF WATER, UH, THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT BACK.

AND OF COURSE, HOUSING FOR FOLKS THAT, THAT, UH, DID NOT HAVE SHELTER BEFORE.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE STAFF LOTS OF CREDIT FOR THEIR HARD WORK IN THAT PROGRAM.

JUST PIVOTING BACK TO THE, THE LEGAL CAMPSITE SANCTIONED CAMPSITE.

I REALLY AGREE WITH COMMENTS WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S, UH, COMMENTS AS WELL.

I I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH, UH, WITH DIANA AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE FOCUS NEEDS TO BE ON HOUSING THAT SAID JUST THROUGH MY CONVERSATIONS WITH DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN HOUSING, THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THEM, PROVIDING SERVICES, IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT AT SOME POINT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE, EVEN IF WE BUILD A LOT OF HOUSING, A RESIDUAL POPULATION OF FOLKS, OR, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT AT LEAST KIND OF CYCLE IN AND OUT OF HOMELESSNESS.

AND I WOULD RATHER HAVE THEM IN A, YOU KNOW, GET THEM PRIMITIVE, BUT SAFE CAMPSITE, PUBLIC CAMPSITE VAN, YOU KNOW, IN THE WOODS, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE PARK, YOU KNOW, AND THOSE KINDS OF SITUATIONS.

SO AGAIN, I'M NOT, I UNDERSTAND THAT HOW DIFFICULT IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT I DO THINK, AND I AM WILLING TO RETURN TO THAT CONVERSATION AND SAY, HEY, WE KNOW WE, I THINK WE NEED AT LEAST ONE, UH, AND WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE? HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE WANT TO INVEST IN IT? SO, ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, THANK YOU.

UH, YES.

CANCER ELLIS.

ENCAMPMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS AND YOU SHOULD BE PREPARED FOR THEM.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DETERMINE OVER THIS CONVERSATION IS OBVIOUSLY THERE'S STILL A MUCH GREATER NEED TO BEING ABLE TO TRULY KEEP PEOPLE FROM FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS AND TO TRULY GET PEOPLE INTO THE HOUSING THAT THEY NEED CONNECTED TO THE SERVICES THEY NEED.

I THINK ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN LOOKING AT SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS IN PARTICULAR IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD, A GOOD, UM, EXPERIENCE TO POINT TO.

WE DON'T HAVE A SUCCESS TO SAY HERE'S HOW WE DID IT.

AND THEREFORE, ANYTIME THERE'S AN ENCAMPMENT SUGGESTED, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T HAVE AN EXAMPLE TO POINT TO, TO SAY, THIS WAS SAFE.

THIS IS HOW IT WORKED.

WE WERE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THIS MANY PEOPLE, EXIT HOMELESSNESS AND GET BACK ON THEIR FEET.

AND IN MY EXPERIENCE, AND, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE ONE OF THE ENCAMPMENTS WAS SUGGESTED IS THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT COULDN'T BE ANSWERED.

AND THERE WERE A LOT OF FEARS THAT COULDN'T BE APPEASED THROUGH ANY SORT OF PLANNING PROCESS.

YOU SAID THE ZONING DIDN'T MATCH.

DO WE EVEN HAVE THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT SECURITY PERSONNEL TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH THE PEOPLE NOT IN THE ENCAMPMENT AND THE PEOPLE IN THE ENCAMPMENT ARE SAFE AND HEALTHY AND HAVE ACCESS TO THE SERVICES THEY NEED? YOU KNOW, WE HAD SITUATIONS LIKE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK TO GET TO THE BUS STOP.

HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TRULY ACCESS OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE NOT ONSITE? BECAUSE MY DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF BUS SERVICE.

SO THERE'S JUST SOME REAL HONEST IMPLICATIONS AND QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO, TO KNOW BEFORE THEY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TRULY OKAY WITH TRYING SOMETHING OUT.

AND I THINK ANY OF US ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS IF THERE'S OPTIONS FOR SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENTS.

BUT I DO THINK IF THERE WERE A COMMUNITY THAT STEPPED UP AND FOUND A SPOT NEAR THEM AND SAID, WE'RE WILLING TO TRY THIS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE OKAY WITH BEING THE BETA TEST AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAYBE WE COULD FIGURE OUT OUR WAY AND HOW TO MAKE THAT TEMPLATE WORK.

BUT I THINK ANY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT JUST SAYS, HERE'S, HERE'S A PLOT OF LAND AND WE MIGHT DEPLOY, YOU KNOW, A SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT, AS MUCH AS WE TRY.

CAN WE TRULY COMMIT THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE SAFE, BOTH IN AND OUTSIDE OF THE

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SO IF IT'S COMMUNITY LED AND I THINK THE RIGHT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE, IT COULD WORK.

BUT I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF FEAR FOR FOLKS THAT SEE OPEN VACANT LAND AND ARE PROBABLY IMAGINING THAT ONE DAY THERE COULD BE SOMETHING SPRUNG ON THEM THAT THEY HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO PROVIDE INPUT OR TO TRULY VET THEIR QUESTIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS THE RIGHT STRATEGY FOR, FOR ANY COMMUNITY.

THAT'S, THAT'S TRYING TO BE SERVED BY THIS.

SO THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME FOLKS THAT STEP UP, I LOVE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AT CAMPUS.

BARRANZA, YOU KNOW, WE'VE THE, THE CITY MANAGER HAD DONE A BUDGET UNVEILING AT COMMUNITY FIRST IN YEARS PAST.

AND I GOT TO GO ON A TRIP AND SEE HOW THEY WORK WITH TINY HOMES AND COMMUNITY GARDENS AND ART STUDIOS.

AND THERE ARE SOME SUCCESS STORIES AND MAYBE OUR PRIVATE NONPROFIT PARTNERSHIPS CAN REALLY STEP UP IN THIS WAY AND TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT, THAT IS GOING TO MAKE MEANINGFUL CHANGE IN THIS.

BUT I THINK TRYING TO TRANSITION FROM THERE'S ENCAMPMENTS, THAT SHOULDN'T BE HERE AND WE KEEP CALLING THESE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND GETTING DIFFERENT ANSWERS AND THEN SAYING, WELL, NOW WE'RE JUST GOING TO PENETRATE THIS TYPE OF SITUATION.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE IT ON THE OUTSIDE AND FEAR THAT TRYING TO CONCENTRATE IT IS, IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO SET US UP FOR SUCCESS EITHER.

SO I RE I REALLY HOPE THERE ARE SOME, SOME SOLID METHODS ON BOTH ENDS OF MAKING SURE PEOPLE DON'T FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS.

PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE, JOB TRAINING, YOU KNOW, HOUSING, ONCE THEY FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS OR ARE COUCH SURFING.

THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, SOME BIG WINS.

I THINK THAT WE COULD STEP UP AND DO HERE, BUT THE IDEA OF ENCAMPMENTS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE HIGHLY VOLATILE.

ANYTIME THAT IT IS SUGGESTED IF IT'S NOT COMMUNITY LED AND SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE ARE OFFERING SPACE AND OFFERING TO BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY THAT TRIES TO MAKE THIS WORK OKAY.

ANY FURTHER, GOVERNOR'S GOT SOME, OUR KITCHEN.

OH, MY MY TOPIC IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

DIFFERENT.

I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HEELS SHELTER BEFORE WE FINISH.

IS IT TELLING ME OKAY.

MS. GRAY, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK ON THIS, UM, WITH YOUR OFFICE.

SO, UH, SO COLLEAGUES, I HAVE, UM, DISTRIBUTED, DISTRIBUTED, UH, A NUMBER OF DAYS BACK, UH, A BUDGET AMENDMENT I'M BRINGING FOR, UH, FOR THE HEALS SHELTER, UH, FOR CONTINUED FUNDING TO COMPLETE THE YEAR FOR THE NORTH SHELTER.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE MY BEST, UH, STATEMENT ABOUT WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING.

AND THEN, UH, MS. GRAY, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO IT.

SO, SO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TWO SHELTERS RIGHT NOW FOR HEAL, WHICH ALLOWS US TO SERVE APPROXIMATELY 200 PEOPLE A YEAR.

UM, WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH US? WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE SHELTER CAPACITY IS THAT WE'RE THAT WE ARE SCHEDULED TO LOSE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HALF, BUT TO LOSE ONE OF THOSE SHELTER SHELTERS, WHICH WILL CAUSE US TO REDUCE POTENTIALLY AS MUCH AS HALF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE CAN SERVE THROUGH HEAL, UM, IN THIS NEXT YEAR.

AND THE REASON THIS HAS BEEN UNDERSTOOD.

BUT THE REASON IS THAT THE NORTHBRIDGE SHELTER HAS ALWAYS BEEN INTENDED TO CONVERT, TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

UH, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING, AND THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR, I DON'T KNOW, MARCH OR SO ANYWAY, SOMEWHERE, SOMETIME HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR THAT SHELTER IS NOT GOING TO BE A SHELTER ANYMORE.

IT'S GOING TO GO TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND WE WON'T HAVE, UM, A SHELTER AVAILABLE AND WE WILL NEED TO REPLACE THAT SHELTER.

THAT'S ANOTHER ACTIVITY THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND ONE.

BUT THE OTHER ISSUE THAT I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS HERE IS THE FACT THAT THE FUNDING TO OPERATE THAT SECOND SHELTER IS NOT A FULL YEAR FUNDING.

IT IS ONLY PARTIAL YEAR FUNDING.

SO WE HAVE TO ADD DOLLARS INTO THE BUDGET IF WE WANT A SECOND SHELTER TO OPERATE FOR AN ENTIRE YEAR.

SO I'M, I'M PROPOSING THAT I HAD PROPOSED GENERAL FUNDER, OUR PRO FUNDS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS EVEN ANY FUNDS AVAILABLE IN OUR PER FOR THIS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIND THE FUNDS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE US DROPPING THE NUMBER OF FOLKS AS IT IS.

THE HEAL INITIATIVE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, IS THIS A SUCCESSFUL INITIATIVE, WAS SHOWED GOOD RESULTS.

UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S ONLY SERVING 200 PEOPLE A YEAR.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ACTIVITY THAT HAS TO OCCUR.

NOT WE'RE NOT DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO WITH HEAL, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SEE US DROP THAT TO UNDER 200 PEOPLE A YEAR THAT WOULD REALLY BE GOING BACKWARDS.

SO, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO Y'ALL'S ATTENTION.

AND IF, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MS. GRAY, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.

UH, I DON'T, I'M NOT POSITIVE WHAT THE POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FUNDS ARE, BUT I'M BRINGING IT AS A BUDGET WRITER FOR GENERAL FUNDS, UH, ONGOING IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

SO IF, IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING

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SO, UM, I WILL SAY THAT THE CURRENT OPERATING FUNDS FOR NORTH BRIDGE, WE ARE UTILIZING ONE-TIME FEDERAL FUNDS, THE EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT CV, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT IT WAS A TEMPORARY, UM, YOU KNOW, OPERATION OR TIME LIMITED.

UM, AND THE ARPA FUNDS FOR OPERATIONS OF A NEW SHELTER WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF OUR OVERALL ARPA HOMELESS SPEND PLAN OR INVESTMENT PLAN.

AND IT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, LIKELY COUNCIL TO COME BACK AND ALTER THAT PLAN.

WE HAVE, UM, A SOLICITATION THAT HAS ALREADY CLOSED FOR CRISIS SERVICES FOR COMMUNITY-BASED CRISIS SERVICES, WHICH INCLUDES STREET OUTREACH COULD INCLUDE IN SHELTER, ET CETERA.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME, MOST OF OUR CRISIS DOLLARS, WE OFFERED TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD SAY THERE IS NOT OBVIOUS AN OBVIOUS SOURCE OF ARPA FUNDS SITTING THERE, BUT COUNCIL COULD LOOK AT THE SPEND PLAN.

UH, HOWEVER, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ONE PRESUMES THAT THIS IS A LONG-TERM CITY OPERATION, UH, AND, UM, AND WOULD NEED A GENERAL FUND SUPPORT TO HAVE SUSTAINABLE OPERATIONS INTO THE FUTURE.

IT'S ABOUT 1.7 OR 1.8 MILLION FOR THE SIX, SIX MONTHS.

NOW, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS WE'RE REACHING A POINT, UH, THIS IS NOT NEW.

THIS IS NOT A NEW PROGRAM.

THIS IS NOT A NEW LEVEL OF CAPACITY.

THIS IS CONTINUING CURRENT CAPACITY.

WHAT WE'RE FACING NOW IS WE WERE ABLE TO START SOME OF THIS CAPACITY WITH ONE TIME FUNDS.

AND WE'RE NOW AT THE POINT WHERE THOSE ONE-TIME FUNDS ARE NOT AVAILABLE ANYMORE.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT THERE'S NOT 1.8 MILLION AVAILABLE IN THE AREPAS SPENDING FAN FUND THAT WE COULD USE TO FINISH THIS OUT FOR THIS YEAR AND CONSIDER A CONSIDERED GENERAL FUNDS NEXT YEAR.

UH, NOT WITHOUT DRAWING IT FROM SOME OTHER SPENDING AREA THAT COUNSEL HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I PREFER NOT TO DO THAT IF WE COULD GET IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BETTER BECAUSE I'M NOT REMEMBERING WHAT ALL THOSE BUCKETS ARE OF THAT ARE ALREADY DEDICATED AND WHAT THEY'RE DEDICATED TO.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT IN CASE ANYBODY HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT WHILE MS. GRAY WAS HERE? WELL, I WOULD SAY JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING FOR THAT, THAT MEASURE OF SUPPORT IS SOMETHING THAT I DO SUPPORT.

UH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TAKING FUNDING AWAY FROM A SPENDING COMPONENT THAT ACTUALLY HAS A SOLVING THE CHALLENGE, BECAUSE I THINK IN THE LONG-TERM WE CAN'T DO THAT.

I MEAN, WE NEED TO TAKE THE CHALLENGE OFF THE TABLE SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO SPEND MONEY ANYWHERE ON IT.

UH, BUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, THAT MEETS THAT, THAT BILL, UH, AT THE SAME TIME YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT IS GRAY.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT AS WE, UH, HAVE RAMPED UP, UH, TO ACTUALLY END THIS CHALLENGE AND BUILD OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE OPERATING SYSTEM, UH, THERE'S A LOT MORE ORGANIZATION AND ADMINISTRATION OBVIOUSLY, TO BE ABLE TO DO.

THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET.

WE THINK WE PAID SOME OF OUR PARTNERS LIKE ECHO, I THINK A $200,000 A YEAR, AND HAVE BEEN DOING THAT IN A FLAT KIND OF WAY FOR A DECADE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT WAS PUT INTO THE BUDGET TO ACTUALLY SCALE THE, YOUR OFFICES AND YOUR PARTNERS, YOUR SUPPORT OF PARTNERS THAT, THAT ACTUALLY HELP ADMINISTER THIS, THIS LARGER EFFORT TO ACTUALLY END HOMELESSNESS.

BUT THAT LAST YEAR, THE DOLLARS FOR THAT WERE TAKEN AWAY FROM THAT PURPOSE AND PUT COLD WEATHER SHELTERS.

I THINK, UM, MY NAME MAY HAVE BEEN MOVED.

TO FIND THAT FUND AND FUND THAT AS WELL.

I WOULD CHARACTERIZE IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

I MEAN, LET ME ENSURE THAT I UNDERSTAND MAYOR IN THE ARPA BUDGET, UM, WE, UM, WE SET ASIDE DOLLARS FOR, UH, SORT OF SYSTEM CAPACITY BUILDING, RIGHT.

AND THAT COULD INCLUDE THINGS LIKE FUNDING FOR, WELL, LET ME FINISH THE QUESTION AND THEN YOU CAN READ THE WHOLE THING.

UH, SO IN ADDITION TO THE REQUEST THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN IS MAKING ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I SEPARATELY, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT I THINK IS ALSO A NEED, IS MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SUFFICIENTLY COVERING THAT, THAT, THAT SUPPORT FUNCTION.

AND I THINK HISTORICALLY HAD BEEN A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS I ALSO WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND ADVISE US ON IS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A NEED FOR US

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I HAVE.

DID I HAVE THAT? NO.

THE, I THINK THE, UH, W WE'LL CLARIFY ABOUT THE SOURCES OF FUNDS, I THINK, BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, ECHO IN PARTICULAR, UH, AMONG OTHERS IS A REALLY CRITICAL PARTNER.

THEY DO THINGS THAT ARE FEDERALLY, UM, MANDATED, THEN THEIR ROLE AS A LEAD AGENCY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEIR FUNDING HAS BEEN FLAT FOR MANY YEARS NOW.

UH, THANK YOU, COUNSEL, HER KITCHEN FOR BRINGING THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT FORWARD ON ENSURING THAT THE HEAL INITIATIVE IS ABLE TO MAINTAIN, UM, SERVICES AS WE NEED IT AS WE NEED IT MAINTAINED.

UM, I AM, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF US EXPLORING TAKING A LOOK AT THE ARPA DOLLARS TO SEE IF WE CAN DRAW THOSE DOLLARS TO UTILIZE FOR, UM, FOR THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT'S JUST ABOUT RESPONDING TO THE MOMENT THAT WE'RE IN AND WE HAVE AN INITIATIVE THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN SUCCESSFUL, AND ONE THAT I WANT TO ENSURE CONTINUES TO REMAIN SUCCESSFUL AND HELPING OUR UNHOUSED.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE MY SUPPORT FOR YOUR AMENDMENT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS.

KELLY'S WE DON'T HAVE TO JUST SPEND OUR TIME DEALING JUST WITH HOMELESSNESS.

I'M SURE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT TOO.

UM, UH, DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SPENDING TIME TODAY AS THE OTHER STAFF OFFICES THAT YOU BROUGHT WITH US.

UM, COUNSEL, HANG ON.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A SECOND WHILE DIANA AND THE TEAM ARE HERE TO THANK THE FOLKS INVOLVED WITH THIS.

THEY MEET EVERY WEEK TO DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT ISSUE, ALL OF THESE DOZEN DEPARTMENTS.

AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

THEY'VE WORKED CAREFULLY WITH THE DOLLARS THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROPRIATE AND, AND WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR LOCAL AND STATE LAWS.

AND IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB.

AND I HOPE THAT WHEN THESE ISSUES COME UP BEFORE THAT THIS COMMUNICATION, UM, AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS WEEK WILL HELP YOU ALL ALSO CHAMPION THAT WORK AND BE ABLE TO ARTICULATE A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT WHAT THE WORK IS THAT THEY ARE DOING.

SO THANKS SO MUCH.

I APOLOGIZE IF I MISS THIS WHEN YOU STARTED THE MEETING, BUT DID YOU LAY OUT A PLAN FOR TODAY? LIKE WHEN WE WERE TAKING A LUNCH BREAK, IF WE'RE HAVING ANY EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, WHAT'S YOU DIDN'T TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT LUNCH BREAK MIGHT BE TIME TO DO THAT.

BUT WHAT WE DID SAY WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET THE PRESENTATIONS FROM STAFF, AND THEN WE WOULD BRING IT TO THE DAS.

SO WE HAD AS MUCH TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO DAYLIGHT THINGS, AND ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS, OR BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER.

I DID POINT OUT THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE DO, BUT PROBABLY LATER IN THE DAY, SO THAT WE GET SOME TIME TOGETHER ON THE DIETS.

DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS, UH, TODAY? OKAY.

WE WERE FINALIZING THE PRESENTATION TO BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, MEMO AND STAFF, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMING FORTH NEXT WEEK.

YOU'RE STILL PREPARING THAT OR YOU'RE READY ON THAT.

YOU'RE GOING TO, LET ME, LET ME, DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT AFTER LUNCH? WE'RE GOOD.

COLLEAGUES, WE WANT TO GET THIS PRESENTATION AND THEN BREAK FOR LUNCH SO THAT WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO SEE, I THINK THIS IS A LONG PRESENTATION, CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

I DIDN'T MEAN FOR IT TO BE OVER.

I JUST THOUGHT IF IT MADE THE PRESENTATION, THEN OVER LUNCH, PEOPLE COULD BE FORMULATING THEIR QUESTIONS.

UM, BUT IF WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY, WE COULD BREAK FOR LUNCH AND GET THE PRESENTATION AND DO THE QUESTION IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT.

I'D RATHER PEOPLE RATHER BREAK FOR LUNCH.

NOW, I THINK THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE'S HEADS ARE.

SO IT'S A 1211 RIGHT NOW.

HOW ABOUT IF WE COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK, UH, WE'LL DO THAT PRESENTATION WITH THE QUESTIONS.

HOPEFULLY WE THEN GET TO THE, TO THE DAY S WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN HANDLE THAT TOWARD THE END OF THE DAY.

MAYOR WILL THE, UM, FIRE CHIEF, UM, BE HERE AFTER LUNCH TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRE STATIONS, UM, OR SHOULD WE ASK THEM NOW AT LEAST TO GET THE BASIC CHIEF? CAN YOU COME BACK? YES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL SEE YOU BACK HERE AT ONE O'CLOCK, WE'LL START WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RECONVENE THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL BUDGET WORK SESSION TODAY HERE ON, UH, AUGUST 11TH, 2022.

THE TIME IS ONE 18, AND WE HAVE A QUORUM.

WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN THIS AFTERNOON WITH STAFF, UH, CONTINUING ITS, UH, PRESENTATION, TALKING ABOUT ITS BUDGET AMENDMENTS, AND ANY OTHER THINGS IT WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT.

UM, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT BACK UP TO THE DIETS WERE MORE GENERAL QUESTIONS AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SHARE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THEIR OFFICES.

WE'LL DO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF NECESSARY LATE IN THE DAY.

SO IN THE STAFF'S DONE ITS PRESENTATION AND WE'VE ASKED THE QUESTIONS ASSOCIATED

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WITH THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE CHIEF SO WE CAN DISCUSS, UH, THE FIRE STATION.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

JERRY LANG A BUDGET OFFICER FSD.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO IN THE, UM, EMAIL THAT I SENT TO YOU ALL LAST NIGHT, WE DISCUSSED THE, UM, PROJECTIONS, ANY CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROJECTING THE STAFF AMENDMENTS.

AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE ARE SHOWING INCREASED REVENUE PROJECTIONS FOR, UM, SALES TAX REVENUE AND INCREASED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FOR, UH, FISCAL YEAR 23, THAT RESULTS IN INCREASED AVAILABLE FUNDING IN OUR BUDGET STABILIZATION RESERVE FUND, UM, 7.3 MILLION MILLION IN, EXCUSE ME, IN SALES TAX REVENUE PROJECTIONS.

THESE ARE ONE TIME AS WELL AS, UH, INCREASE AVAILABLE FUNDS DUE TO SAVINGS THAT PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS SEEING THIS YEAR'S ALLOCATION FOR A TRIPLE C, UM, AND THEN ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PUBLIC, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR PROJECTED COSTS FOR HELICOPTER MAINTENANCE THAT THEY ARE DEFERRING TO FISCAL YEAR 24.

FINALLY, WE ARE SEEING ANTICIPATED, UM, NEW REVENUE REIMBURSEMENTS AS FAR AS, UM, UM, EXCUSE ME, A NEW NEW EXPENDITURES AS FAR AS, UM, LET ME BACK UP.

WE'RE SEEING NEW REVENUE POTENTIAL IN REGARDS TO COVID RELATED EXPENSES THAT WE'VE HAD IN PREVIOUS FISCAL YEARS THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING, UH, REIMBURSEMENTS FROM, FROM IN FISCAL YEAR 23.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, IN REGARD TO EXPENDITURES WE'RE GOING AND STEF AMENDMENTS.

UM, WE ARE ANTICIPATING COMING FORWARD WITH A, UM, ONE POSITION IN THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO, UH, WORK IN THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST PROGRAM.

AND THIS IS AT A COST OF $75,000.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET STABILIZATION FUND, THE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR THIS YEAR FROM PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO REALLOCATE THE SAME AMOUNT FOR NEXT YEAR THROUGH THE BS RF, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, 14.6 MONTHS, $65 MILLION TO OUR LIABILITY RESERVE FUND THAT TRANSFER TO, UH, PAY FOR LEGAL SETTLEMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOTAL IMPACT OF THE TOTAL AVAILABLE FUNDS, UM, THE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU SEE HERE THAT GIVES US A NET AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 23 OF $20.3 MILLION FOR DISCUSSION.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO ALL OF THESE CHANGES THAT WE'VE TALKED THROUGH IN OUR MEMO AND PRESENTATION DOES RESULT IN A CHANGE IN OUR REFLECTION OF THE FORECAST OR HORIZON FOR THE, FOR THE CITY.

WE DO ANTICIPATE AT $12.2 MILLION OF SURPLUS AND FISCAL FISCAL YEAR 23, OUR PROJECTIONS ARE SHOWING MUCH BETTER RESULTS IN THE OUT YEARS SHOWING A $8.2 MILLION SURPLUS IN FISCAL YEAR 27.

AND THIS IS JUST BASED ON OUR REVENUE CHANGES.

WE HAVE NOT CHANGED AT THIS POINT.

ANY OF OUR BASE EXPENDITURES ARE BASE ASSUMPTIONS FOR EXPENDITURE GROWTH FOR THE COMING YEARS, OTHER THAN THE ONES WE'VE MENTIONED TODAY.

OKAY, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS IS OUR CONTINUED PROJECTIONS OF THE, UM, IMPACT TO THE TYPICAL RATE PAYER.

THIS IS THE NON-SENIOR IMPACT AND, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PROJECTED INCREASE TOTAL IS 3.7%.

WE ARE, WE HAVE AMENDED THE BASE ACCORDING TO THE CONVERSATION ON TUESDAY REGARDING AUSTIN ENERGY AND THEIR CURRENT PROPOSED RATE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT CHANGE HERE.

AND, UH, WE ALSO NOTED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE APPROVED YET UNTIL AFTER, UM, THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.

SO OVERALL, THE TOTAL YEARLY IMPACT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS $167 AND 88 CENTS.

UH, 3.7% INCREASE FOR THE NON-SENIOR RATE PAYER.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, THIS ONE FOCUSES ON THE SENIOR DISABLED RATE PAYER, AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE IMPACT THERE IS A 5.4%.

UM, I WOULD WANT TO POINT OUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TAX BILL PORTION OF THIS, THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL IS LOWER, BUT THE RATE DOES SHOW AN INCREASED, UM, GROWTH THAT IS PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE SENIOR EXEMPTION AMOUNT DOES NOT, HAS NOT CHANGED.

AND SO IT'S GOING AGAINST THE CHANGES THAT YOU SEE IN THE MARKET AND THE MEDIUM TOO, TO SHOW THOSE DIFFERENCES.

BUT THE OVERALL INCREASE IS TO $209 AND 40 CENTS.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COLLEAGUES.

THE, THE EXEMPTION TO THE, UH, TRANSPORTATION FEED FOR SENIORS, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE STILL IN EFFECT THAT'S STILL AVAILABLE.

HAVE THE CARRIER, DOES IT DO, UH,

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SO ALL SENIORS MEET PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE VEHICLES NEED TO DO.

I WILL HAVE TO CHECK.

I BELIEVE.

UM, THERE IS, IF THEY CALL INTO THREE, ONE, ONE AND MAKE A REQUEST, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO, BUT I WILL HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE DEPARTMENT AND STAFF TO SEE WHAT THAT FULL PROCESS IS.

IF YOU CAN.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS CARRIE.

THANKS FOR TALKING ABOUT THE SENIOR EXEMPTION PIECE.

COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH A LITTLE BIT, IF WE WERE INCREASE THE, UM, THE EXEMPTION, I THINK IT'S 113,000 OFF OF, UM, A PROPERTY TAX BILL.

IF WE WERE TO INCREASE THAT, DO WE HAVE ANY NUMBERS ON WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE, WOULD IT AFFECT THE 5.4% INCREASE? AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD OR SHOULD DO AT THIS JUNCTURE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD GIVE DIRECTION AND DO, UM, AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR SO THAT IT COULD BE PART OF THE CALCULATION FOR NEXT YEAR, I AM GOING TO DEFER TO IT TOO, OR ERIC TO COME UP AND TALK THROUGH THOSE DETAILS.

THANKS SO MUCH.

AND MAYOR, IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT TOO, UM, I THINK WE, AS JUST QUICKLY AS ED, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHEN WE COULD DO IT? SO I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SHARE THAT.

I JUST LEARNED THAT WELL, THAT, AND THAT IS WHAT I'M, THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING THERE.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET ED TALK SOME PROCEDURAL THINGS.

UM, AT DINO CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, YOU CAN UNDER STATE LAW INCREASE THE SENIOR EXEMPTION.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DEADLINE FOR WHEN YOU DO IT, BUT IT IS, UM, TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY FINANCIALLY, IF YOU DO IT PRIOR TO THE TAX RATE SETTING PROCESS.

UM, AND SO SINCE WE'VE ALREADY, UM, UM, CALCULATED OUR VOTER APPROVAL RATE FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, WE'VE ALREADY NOTICED THAT RATE COUNCIL YOU'VE ALREADY SET THE MAXIMUM RATE, ANY INCREASE IN THE EXEMPTION FROM THIS POINT ON WOULD RESULT IN A GENERAL FUND LOSS.

BUT IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME AFTER THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, IF YOU WERE TO DO IT IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, OR JANUARY, IF YOU WERE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO INCREASE THE, UH, SENIOR EXEMPTION FOR FISCAL YEAR 24, THEN IT GETS ROLLED INTO OUR CALCULATION OF THOSE RATES AND IT WOULD NOT RESULT IN A GENERAL FUND IMPACT.

UH, FOR THE QUESTIONS WITH THE STAFFS, UH, SHEET, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KITCHEN, THEN THE MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, MOVING FORWARD TO SENIOR TAX EXEMPTION, UH, SO THAT, UM, WE COULD ADDRESS THE, UH, IMPACT OF THE HOUSING BOND.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I MENTIONED WHEN I PROPOSE THE AMENDMENT TO MOVE THE HOUSING BOND AT 350 MILLION.

BUT, UM, GIVEN THE, UM, GIVEN THE TIMING THAT, UH, MR. JUST SHARED WITH ME, I INTEND TO BRING A, UM, A DIRECTION TO RAISE THE SENIOR TAX EXEMPTION, BUT TO RAISE IT, UM, AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, UM, I'LL WORK ON THE WORDING AND HAVE THAT A MAIL AVAILABLE TO FOLKS.

BUT I THINK THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN VOTE ON THAT.

AND, UH, SO WE CAN PROCEED TO DO THAT, BUT WE JUST, UM, WE'LL DO IT IN A WAY THAT HAS DOESN'T IMPACT OUR BUDGET.

SO I WILL, UM, AND IT, THAT'S NOT BINDING FUTURE.

UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT TAKING ACTION TO BIND FUTURE COUNCILS CAUSE WE'RE MAKING THE CHANGE OURSELVES IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT.

WE CAN CHANGE THE SENIOR TAXES INSTANT ANYTIME WE CHOOSE, UH, DURING A YEAR, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AT ANY PARTICULAR TIME.

SO I WILL MAKE THAT, UM, I'LL MAKE THAT, UM, PROPOSED LANGUAGE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO SEE AND CONSIDER, UM, WHEN I GET THAT DONE AND PUT IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD.

THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM, AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK OVER.

DID YOU WANT TO CLOSE OUT SOMETHING ON SENIOR HOMESTEADER? I DON'T MIND IF SHE FINISHES THAT.

UM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THE DIRECTION IS THE WAY TO GO AND I REALLY APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE BRINGING THAT ACTION TO US FOR APPROVAL.

AND, AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

UH, COUNCILMEMBER KITCHEN, BE HAPPY TO ADD MY NAME TO YOUR, UH, YOUR DIRECTION.

UM, SO THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD NEWS IN THIS MEMO AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I WANT TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAT I HAVE A GREATER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE FORECASTING AND, AND SOME OTHER PIECES.

UM, SO, UM, FOR THE SALES TAX, WE JUST GOT, UM, REPORTS YESTERDAY, I GUESS,

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FOR JUNE.

IS THAT RIGHT? OR FOR AUGUST? FOR JULY, FOR JUNE.

AND HOW MUCH ABOVE WHAT WE WERE FORECASTING FOR JUNE, DID THOSE RECEIPTS COME IN? THAT WAS ABOUT A 20% INCREASE, THREE AND A HALF MILLION.

SO THAT WAS, AND THEN THAT WOULD BE, SO WE GOT THREE AND A HALF MILLION MORE, SO THERE'S ANOTHER THREE AND A HALF MILLION THAT'S PROJECTED IN SALES TAX REVENUE FOR JULY, AUGUST, AND SEPTEMBER FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE DID INCREASE OUR, UM, PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS TO BETTER, UM, ALIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

HOWEVER, WE ARE STILL, WE REMAIN CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO THE EXACT AMOUNTS THAT WERE, UM, INCREASED IN THAT WE SAW IN JUNE BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX IS VERY VOLATILE AND WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE CAREFUL IN HOW WE MAKE THESE PROJECTIONS, BUT WE DID INCREASE OUR PROJECTIONS FROM WHAT WAS PROPOSED TO GET TO THE, UM, 7.3 THAT WE'RE PROJECTING FOR THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND THEN YOU JUST BASICALLY ADDED THAT AMOUNT TO YOUR PROJECTION FOR NEXT YEAR, CORRECT? UM, OKAY.

SO I WOULD MAYBE LIKE TO S TO, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH SOMEONE, TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES WANT TO GO THROUGH IT AT THE LEVEL THAT I, THAT I WANT TO, IF I CAN SEE IF WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN TOMORROW OR, OR LATER TODAY, IF WE HAVE IT.

UM, I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT IN, UM, IN THIS AMOUNT OF THE 20 MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, YOU HAVE A CHART IN THERE THAT HAS THE PROJECTIONS, AND IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, WHAT YOU WROTE IN HERE AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UM, THAT THE, THE ROSY PICTURE WITH THE SURPLUSES DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE US SPENDING ANY OF THE MONEY OF THE ONGOING MONEY.

SO THERE'S NO BEYOND WHAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.

AND THERE, NO, THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE, UM, THE AVAILABLE MONEY, THE 20 MILLION THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOU ALL TO EXPEND.

SO THAT INCUR, I JUST WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR ON HERE.

SO IF WE SPEND THIS 20 MILLION, WE WILL HAVE THE SAME CHART.

WE HAVE THE 12.2 THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR ONGOING AND THE REMAINING 7.3 7.9 THAT'S ONE TIME.

BUT IF I SPEND 12.2 AND ONGOING, BY THE TIME I GET FIVE YEARS OUT WITH A SURPLUS OF 8.2, I'M NOW DOWN 4 MILLION, RIGHT? HI, ERIC NELSON, A DIVISION CHIEF FROM FINANCIAL SERVICES.

UH, THE 12.2 MILLION IN ONGOING IS NOT BAKED INTO THE FORECAST.

SO ANY ONGOING DOLLAR YOU SPEND WOULD REDUCE THAT 7.8 MILLION OR FORGIVE ME 8 MILLION ISH SURPLUS IN FY 27.

SO THIS, THE BAR CHART THAT WE HAVE THAT LOOKS ROSY AND GOOD DOES NOT INCLUDE SPENDING ANY MONEY, RIGHT.

IN THAT 20 MILLION OF THE ONGOING OF THE ONGOING PART.

YOU REMEMBER, IN PRIOR YEARS, EVEN IF WE HAD ONGOING FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, WE'VE ENCOURAGED YOU TO SPEND THAT ON ONE TIME TO NOT WORSE THAN THE DEFICIT IN THE OUT YEARS.

AND NOW WE'RE SHOWING A SLIGHT SURPLUS IN THE OUT YEARS, BUT ANY ONGOING SPENDING, UM, YOU ADD AN FYI 23 WILL REDUCE THAT SURPLUS IN THE OUT YEARS.

AND THIS CHART DOES NOT, UM, PROJECT INCREASES FOR THE TWO FIRE STATIONS IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND WHAT DOES IT ASSUME WITH RESPECT TO EMS IT, AS FAR AS THE PENNY CONTRACT NEGOTIATION OR STAFFING LEVELS OR STAFFING LEVELS? I BELIEVE IT JUST, IT JUST THE BASE STAFFING LEVEL.

AND THEN THERE WAS INFORMATION IN, I'M ASSUMING IT INCLUDES YOUR ASSUMPTIONS PREVIOUSLY STATED FOR POLICE THAT'S.

EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

UH, OUR STRUCTURAL BALANCE IN THE, IN THE OUT YEARS.

AND THEN, UM, SO IN THE PAST YOU HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE NOT SPEND MONEY THAT WE HAVE.

HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FROM A BUDGET STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ARE YOU RECOMMENDING IN TERMS OF HOW WE THINK ABOUT THIS FUNDING? I THINK WE ARE, OUR CONTINUED RECOMMENDATION IS TO BE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT AND THE OUT.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AVAILABLE FUNDS, YOU KNOW, THINKING OF HOW WE CAN USE THOSE MORE THAN ONE TIME, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT THE ONGOING IMPACT DOESN'T, UM, UM, IMPACT, UH, OUR LEVEL OF DEFICIT OUT YEARS, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS SOME AVAILABILITY FOR ONGOING.

UM, BUT AS, AS ERIC SAID, ANY EXPENDITURE THAT WE, WE INCLUDE, THAT'S ONGOING WILL IMPACT OUR,

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UM, THANK YOU.

AND I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT I'D PROBABLY LIKE TO GO OVER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, RELATED TO SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS WITH THE BUDGET, AND I'LL TAKE THOSE UP THERE.

UM, MY LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH THE TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT.

SO FROM ALL ACCOUNTS, WE HAVE MORE PROPERTY TAX, MORE SALES TAX REVENUE, UM, SLIGHTLY LOWER FEE FOR AUSTIN ENERGY THAT'S INCLUDED.

UM, BUT YET THE PROPERTY TAX BILL IS HIGHER IN SO FAR AS IT'S A LOWER REDUCTION ON THERE.

SO WE'VE HAD ALL OF THESE THINGS MOVING IN THE POSITIVE DIRECTION.

AND THEN OUR TAXPAYER STATEMENT SAYS, WE'RE NOW CHARGING MORE IN TAXES, IT'S STILL REDUCTION.

UM, AND I NOTICED THE MEDIA CHANGED OUT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW I EXPLAIN TO FOLKS THAT ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS HAPPENED.

AND THEN NOW OUR TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT SAYS THAT INSTEAD OF PAYING $110 AND 55 CENTS LESS AS A MEDIAN TAXPAYER, YOU'RE NOW PAYING 50.6, FOUR LESS AS A MEDIAN TAXPAYER.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S, IT'S EVEN LESS FOR THE SENIOR.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW TO EXPLAIN THAT AND WHAT HAPPENED.

SO THAT NUMBER IS, UM, THE CONSEQUENCES OF TWO FACTORS, THE TAX RATE AND THE PROJECTED MEDIAN VALUE.

SO WITH RESPECT TO THE MEDIAN VALUE, VERSUS THE NOTICED ROLE CERTIFICATION CAME IN A BIT HIGHER THAT'S BECAUSE I'M IN BETWEEN WHEN THEY NOTICED THE ROLE AND CERTIFICATION, UH, T CAD PARTICULARLY ADDED, UH, PROCESSED THE NUMBER OF NEW HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS.

NOW A NEW HOMESTEAD THAT COME THAT FIRST QUALIFIES FOR THE EXEMPTION.

ISN'T GOING TO HAVE HAD THAT 10% OF BRACELET CAP PROTECTION OVER THE YEARS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE COMING ON AT, AT SOMETHING MUCH CLOSER TO MARKET VALUE THAT DROVE THE MEDIAN UP ON THE TAX RATE SIDE, UH, T CAT HAD PROJECTED, UH, LOSING ABOUT 4% OF THE ROLE TO PROTEST LOSS AND THEIR ACTUAL RESULTS.

AS OF CERTIFICATION ARE ABOUT 8% LOSS.

THE CITY'S OVERALL TAXABLE VALUE WENT FROM A PROJECTED 222 BILLION ISH TO ABOUT 218 BILLION BECAUSE WE'RE GENERATING THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE, UM, RELATIVE TO THOSE VALUES THAT DROVE THE TAX RATE ITSELF UP.

WE WERE PROJECTING 45 19 AS OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND THE OFFICIAL VOTER APPROVAL RATE CAME IN AT 46, 27.

SO DUE TO THOSE TWO FACTORS THAT PROJECTED A TYPICAL RESIDENTS' PROPERTY TAX BILL IS HIGHER THAN IT WAS AS PROPOSED BUDGET.

THAT'S CHALLENGING TO EXPLAIN AND IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND, SO THERE ARE TWO, TWO FACTORS TAX RATE AND MEDIAN VALUE, RIGHT? WE DIDN'T VALUE THEM GOING UP.

THAT'S JUST BECAUSE PRICES ARE GOING UP AND YOU ADDED A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO JUST SOLD THEIR HOUSE TO THE ROLES.

UM, TELL ME AGAIN, WHY THE TAX RATE HAD TO GO UP BECAUSE THERE WAS PROTESTS THAT WERE SUSTAINED.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REVENUE CAP, SO WE ESSENTIALLY GET TO RAISE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY ALMOST REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH TOTAL VALUES.

AND AS OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET, BASED ON WHAT T CAD WAS TELLING US, WE THOUGHT TOTAL VALUE WOULD COME IN.

AND THE 222 BILLION RANGE SEEK HAD ENDED UP LOSING MORE VALUE DURING THE PROTEST PROCESS IN BETWEEN, UM, MARCH AND APRIL AND THE END OF JULY.

AND SO VALUES CAME IN ABOUT $218 BILLION SINCE WE CAN GENERATE THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM THAT LOWER VALUE, IT DRIVES THE TAX RATE UP.

AND AGREED UPON WITH THE COUNTY ASSESSOR COLLECTOR.

AND WHAT ARE THE RISKS OF LOSING MORE VALUE? BECAUSE THE PROTESTS ARE NOT DONE, UM, ACTUALLY PRETTY LOW BECAUSE, UH, TEEKAT CERTIFIED, UM, AS OF THE 25TH, THEY HAD 93% OF THE ROLE RESOLVED.

AND THEN THE REST, UM, THAT HASN'T BEEN RESOLVED, STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT THEY USE EITHER THE, UH, VALUE THAT THE PROTESTING PROPERTY, UM, HAS DECLARED.

THEY THINK THEIR PROPERTY IS WORTH OR THE PRIOR YEAR VALUE, WHICHEVER IS LESS.

SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE SHOULD COME IN A LITTLE BETTER THAN THE CERTIFICATION NUMBER IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP BILLING ON.

AND WHEN DOES THAT GET POSTED? UM, IT DOESN'T EXACTLY GET POSTED EVERY FEW MONTHS TO GET RELEASES A NEW SUPPLEMENT.

THE ROLE IS SORT OF A LIVING ENTITY IN THAT PROTESTS ARE ALWAYS BEING PROCESSED.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE TEND TO LOOK WHEN WE'RE GENERATING OUR ESTIMATE, UH, FOR THE CURRENT YEAR IN FEBRUARY AND MARCH, WE HAVE A MUCH BETTER SENSE WHEN REAL BILLS HAVE COME IN.

AND SO THE 46 27, THAT WILL BE CONSTANT ONCE WE PASS THE BUDGET OR DOES THAT THAT'S CONSTANT BECAUSE YEAH, WE, WE USE THE OFFICIAL CERTIFIED ROLL, WHICH WAS RELEASED ON JULY 25TH TO DRIVE THE OFFICIAL TAX RATE CALCULATIONS, WHICH HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED

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AND THEY'VE BEEN NOTICED, AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, INFORMED YOUR PASSAGE OF THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE.

AND THE MAXIMUM TAX RATE INCLUDED THE 40, WE, WE SET THAT UP TO BE THE, THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD GIVE US THE 3.5% PARTICULAR NUMBER.

AND THEN, UM, SO THAT DIFFERENCE THOUGH, THAT THAT RATE CAN'T GO DOWN.

ONCE WE PASS THE BUDGET, IT CAN'T GO DOWN OR UP ONCE WE PASS THE BUDGET, RIGHT? YEAH.

THAT'S THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE, WHICH THE MAXIMUM RATE YOU COULD PASS WITHOUT TRIGGERING AN AUTOMATIC ELECTION.

I MET THE 46.27 WON'T CHANGE.

BUT THAT MEANS IF, IF, IF THEY BRING IN MORE REVENUE THAN WHAT, UM, THE INDIVIDUALS WERE SAYING, THEY SHOULD BE ASSESSED, THEN THAT'S ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT COMES INTO THE CITY.

YEP.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE FACT THAT, UM, WE, WE USUALLY HAVE A SLIGHT POSITIVE IN TERMS OF OUR ESTIMATE VERSUS OUR BUDGETED VALUE AND FOR PROPERTY TAX.

SO WOULD IT BE CORRECTED IF I, IF WE TALKED ABOUT THE MEDIAN AT THE LEVEL WE HAD IN THE PRIOR VERSION, THE FOUR 48,000, THAT WOULD STILL BE GOING UP FROM WHAT IT WAS, BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A HIGHER TAX RATE I SEE AS POSSIBLE.

UM, MY SENSE, AND I COULD GET A ROLL IN NOVEMBER, SAY, AND CHECK THE RESULTS OR ANY TIME, MY GUESS IS THAT, THAT, THAT MEDIAN ONE MOVED TOO MUCH.

ONE BECAUSE IT'S AMALGAMATING SO MANY PROPERTIES AND IT'S FINDING THAT MEDIAN AND TWO, BECAUSE, UM, PROBABLY THE SORT OF BIGGER VARIANCES IN THE OUTSTANDING, UM, VALUE UNDER PROTESTS ARE LIKELY TO BE MORE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.

I GUESS I WAS ASKING THAT WAS HELPFUL.

AND I WAS ASKING A DIFFERENT QUESTION OR TRYING TO ASK A DIFFERENT QUESTION, WHICH WAS, IF I LOOKED AT THE PERSON WHO HAD A 448,000, RATHER THAN A 453,000, WHAT WOULD THEIR ANNUAL DOLLAR CHANGE BE? I'M JUST STILL COUNTERINTUITIVE TO ME THAT WE HAVE ALL THIS MONEY COMING IN AND WE'RE CHARGING MORE.

WE CAN RUN THAT CALCULATION FOR YOU.

I MEAN, ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THIS, ISN'T A PERFECT MEASURE IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT YEAR OVER YEAR BECAUSE, UM, THE UNIVERSE OF HOMESTEADS IS GROWING, RIGHT.

REALLY EVEN THE 4 48, I THINK WAS 11 POINT SOMETHING PERCENT GROWTH.

BUT IF YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL HOMESTEAD, YOU CAN'T GROW BY MORE THAN 10% PER STATE LAW IN YOUR ASSESSED.

SO, I MEAN, THERE'S MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD RUN THE CALCULATION.

WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO DIAL INTO WHAT OUR TYPICAL HOMEOWNER IS, WHICH WE'VE DEFINED AS THE MEDIAN IN WHICH WE PULL RIGHT OFF THE ROLES.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE COMPLICATIONS AROUND THE MARGINS.

SO THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS A NUMBER MEASURING A THING, BUT IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE MEASURING SORT OF THE SAME THING, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE A HOMESTEAD WHO WAS CAPPED AT 10% AND YOU WERE THAT PERSON, YOU'D STILL BE AT THE OTHER.

UM, I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT, I THINK I WILL SEE THAT FOR OTHER FOLKS.

I WANT TO, JUST TO, UM, GET ANOTHER READ ON THIS, UM, PROCESS THAT YOU WERE JUST DESCRIBING FOR THE MAYOR PRO TEM ABOUT THE, UM, PROTESTS AND HOW WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT THE DOLLAR VALUE IS FOR THE ROLES THIS YEAR.

WE KNOW THAT WHILE SALES AND PURCHASES HAVE SLOWED DOWN SOMEWHAT, IT'S STILL PRETTY ROBUST IN AUSTIN.

WOULD YOU EXPECT THE SAME SORT OF SCENARIO TO REPEAT ITSELF NEXT YEAR THAT WE MAY HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION? YEAH.

SO IN TERMS OF THE SALES TAX GROWTH, I MEAN, TO BE PERFECTLY BLUNT THAT THE LEVEL OF GROWTH WE'RE SEEING IS A LITTLE BIT SCARY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO CHASE IT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE.

SO, UM, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME FEARS ABOUT THE ECONOMY, SOFTENING AND INFLATION, STARTING TO BITE INTO REAL INCOME.

AND THE SHORT TERM INFLATION IS GOING TO HELP YOUR SALES TAX BECAUSE PRICE LEVELS ARE HIGHER.

GRAPH THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION STILL PRETTY MUCH HOLDS FOR THE NUMBERS THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE.

BUT WHEN THAT TRANSLATES INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, REAL PRESSURE ON IT, ON INCOME GROWTH, UH, IT'S GOING TO REDUCE SPENDING, AND WE MAY SEE A LITTLE DIP.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR, UH, FY 23 IS WE'RE BUDGETED AT ABOUT 5.5% GROWTH IN THAT REPRESENTS SOMETHING LIKE OUR 5% AVERAGE PRIOR TO THE DISTORTIONS OF THE PANDEMIC AND SUBSEQUENT BOUNCE BACK.

AND THEN WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GROWTH IN THE PROPERTY TAX RECEIPTS? WELL, SO AGAIN, WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY TAX, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA END UP WITH ABOUT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT MORE REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAX IN BOTH YEARS AS A RESULT OF THAT REVENUE CAP, ASSUMING COUNCIL APPROVES, THAT VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

AND THEN THE OTHER MAJOR LEVER IS THE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

UM, NEW CONSTRUCTION IS DOWN ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS, UH, VERSUS THE PRIOR YEAR.

AND WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO DIP A LITTLE, UM, NEXT YEAR, BUT THOSE UPDATED PROJECTIONS ARE BAKED INTO THAT FORECAST GRAPH.

AND SO THE, THE

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THOSE ARE OUR LATEST, GREATEST REVENUE PROJECTIONS, ALL BAKED INTO THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANKS MAYOR GARY, SO THAT I CAN UNDERSTAND THE, THE CHART, UH, AND THE $20 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN NET AVAILABLE FUNDS.

UM, JUST OVER $12 MILLION IN ONE-TIME FUNDING AND, AND JUST OVER A BILLION DOLLARS IN GR FUNDING.

IS THAT RIGHT? THE OTHER WAY ROUND.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THAT I UNDERSTAND THE ONGOING FUNDING, THE $12 MILLION IS THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND THE SALES TAX REVENUE IS THAT ALL OF THOSE TWO THINGS, YES.

THOSE ARE BASED ON THE NEW CALCULATIONS FOR PROPERTY TAXES, SALES.

CAN I PUT TOGETHER THAT TOTAL IS THE 12 MILLION, 2 37.

AND THEN THERE WERE TOTAL RESERVE CHANGES, UM, AVAILABLE FUNDING OF JUST OVER 25 MILLION.

ONE COMPONENT OF THAT WAS COVID, UH, REIMBURSEMENT.

WHAT'S THE, THE BALANCE OF THAT, THAT IS THE ONE TIME I'M SALES AND THE SALES TAX THAT FLOWS INTO ONE TIME TO, FOR THIS YEAR THAT FLOWS INTO THE ONE-TIME FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO THAT'S NOT PULLING ANY MONEY OUT OF RESERVES, UH, OR THOSE RESERVES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AS THE BASE BUDGET, THE $25 MILLION IS COVID PLUS THE ONE-TIME SALES TAX MONIES, RIGHT.

THE ONE-TAILED TIME SALES TAX FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR FLOWS DOWN INTO RESERVES.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE IN THE BSRS.

UM, RIGHT.

SO THE, THE $25 MILLION DOESN'T HAVE A SPENDING ANY OF THE BASE RESERVES, THE 14% RESERVES IT'S THE ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR THE ONE-TIME SALES TAX DOLLARS PLUS THE COVID REIMBURSEMENT.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES, THE $74 MILLION WAS FOR THAT ADDITIONAL FTE.

74,000 AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES, UM, UH, WAS FOR LEGAL SETTLEMENTS AND ALSO FOR THE, UH, AUSTIN CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS.

RIGHT? SO THE VSRS HAD FUNDING FOR 3.6 MILLION FOR THE ATRIAL POLICY, AUSTIN, CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS FOR THIS YEAR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION, THEY ARE GENERATING SAVINGS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EXPEND THAT FULL AMOUNT IN FISCAL YEAR 22.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE SAVINGS IN THE BSR REF IN 22 THAT WILL REALLOCATE IN 23, THAT EXACT AMOUNT.

AND WHY IS THERE SAVINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? UM, SO I BELIEVE, AND THIS IS PROBABLY MORE OF A PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS THEY WERE IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM.

THEY, THEY, UM, HAVE DONE SOME OF THE CONTRACTS OR ENCUMBERED SOME OF THE FUNDS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO EXPAND ALL OF THE FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED THIS YEAR.

I WILL HAVE TO HAVE, UM, KIMBERLY OR SOMEONE FROM THE TEAM COME UP TO SPEAK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THAT.

OKAY, KIMBERLY, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, COULD YOU JUST HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOVEMENTS ARE FUNDING? SO THE BUILDING OF THE BUILDING OUT OF THE PROGRAM, THE RESEARCH FIGURING OUT WHO WE COULD PARTNER WITH, BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE STRUCTURE OF THE PROGRAM, TOOK A LITTLE MORE TIME THAN THE TEAM HAD THOUGHT.

AND SO THEREFORE, NOW WE HAVE THE BONES OF THE PROGRAM AND WE'RE READY TO, UH, ALLOCATE THE FUNDING TO EACH OF THOSE, BUT IT JUST TOOK MORE TIME THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED TO BE ABLE TO PUT THE STRUCTURE TOGETHER, TO BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS APPROPRIATELY.

SO EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT CARRIE SAID, JUST USING DIFFERENT WORDS.

AND SO THAT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS MONEY THAT WAS ALREADY APPROPRIATED, THAT WAS IN A BUDGET, BUT JUST HASN'T BEEN SPENT.

SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS NOW SPENDING THE MONEY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED.

YES, SIR.

IS THAT RIGHT? IS IT COMING FROM A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE? NO, IT'S STILL COMING FROM THE SAME FUNDING SOURCE, BUT THE WAY THAT WE ALLOCATE THE BSRS IS THROUGH AT ONE TIME.

AND SO WHAT HAPPENED IS IT WOULD BE SWEPT AWAY AND, AND GO, GO DOWN TO RESERVES.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS REALLOCATING IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR, THE SAME AMOUNT.

SO IT'S, SO IT'S A WASH.

JOHN SAID IT WASN'T SWEPT OUT OF THE BALANCE STABILIZATION FUND IS CARRIED OVER AND THEN SWEPT OUT INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

GOT IT.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL RESERVE REQUIREMENT THAT 10,000 3 94 WAS JUST A FUNCTION OF THE DIFFERING AMOUNTS BECAUSE OF THE SPENDING.

UM, UH, CAUSE OUR KITCHEN THEN MAYOR PRO TEM AND I APOLOGIZE, APOLOGIES.

I WAS A LITTLE LATE GETTING BACK, SO I THINK I'M UNDERSTANDING, BUT, UM, SO THE CHART IS REALLY THE TABLE SUMMARIZES THE, UM, THE NET IMPACT OF THE PLANNED AMENDMENTS PLUS THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WERE BEING MADE BASED ON THE SALES TAX AND OTHER THINGS.

SO BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS TELLING US IS WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR SPENDING FOR FUNDING THE 20.3 MILLION ON THAT CHART.

AND IT'S DIVIDED BETWEEN APPROXIMATELY 12.1 AND ONGOING AN 8.1 IN ONE TIME.

CORRECT? IS THAT RIGHT?

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SO THIS, THIS COUNCIL COULD CHOOSE TO ALLOCATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR ALL OF THAT 20 MILLION.

THE, THE CAVEAT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IS JUST BEING AWARE THAT IF, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE EXPAND THE 12.1, WHICH IS THE ONGOING, THAT WILL CHANGE THE CHART.

SO THE CHART, WHAT THE CHART DOES IS IT, IT GIVES US AS MUCH AS WE KNOW AT THIS POINT IN TIME ABOUT OUR PROJECTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, INTO THE FUTURE.

SO THERE ARE OTHER INTERVENING.

SO, UM, THERE ARE OTHER INTERVENING FACTORS EACH YEAR THAT CAN IMPACT WHERE WE END UP.

SO THIS IS JUST OUR BEST GUESS AT THE MOMENT ON WHERE WE WOULD BE IN FISCAL YEAR 26 AND 27.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD ORIGINALLY, UM, WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROJECTED A DEFICIT IN THAT OUT YEAR BASED ON OUR BUDGET.

AND NOW WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS NEW INFORMATION, WE'RE PROJECTING A SURPLUS.

SO, UM, OKAY.

SO IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SPEND SPENT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DECIDE TO ALLOCATE BECAUSE OF THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE, WE COULD DECIDE TO ALLOCATE ALL OF THAT 12.1.

WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE IMPACTING THE, UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE IMPACTING WHERE WE END UP IN 26, 27.

UH, IT MIGHT APPEAR THAT WE WOULD, BUT WE WOULD HAVE INTERVENING FACTORS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WERE JUST NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW MUCH, UH, WE WOULD BE IMPACTING.

I MEAN, WE MAY CHOOSE TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE WITH IT, BUT, BUT WE ALSO, WHAT WE ALSO HAD PRESENTED TO US A BUDGET THAT SHOWED A DEFICIT.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO WE, I GUESS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS WE DO NOT, WE DO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO ALLOCATE THAT ENTIRE 12.1 TO ONGOING EXPENSES IF WE SO CHOOSE BASED ON THE PRIORITIES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE NOW.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION WE HAVE TO HAVE ON WHAT THOSE ARE, BUT WE COULD DO THAT.

YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD.

AND, AND, UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO LOOK AT HOW YOU DO THAT BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE WITH THE PROJECTIONS OF REVENUE GROWTH THAT, THAT WILL EXPLAIN THE FULL 12 MILLION THIS YEAR WILL RESULT IN THE DEATHS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DEFICIT WILL BE IN THERE.

LIKE YOU SAID, SEVERAL VARIABLES THAT WILL IMPACT THAT.

BUT OUR BEST PROJECTION AT THIS POINT WOULD INDICATE THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE A DEFICIT IN THE OUT YEARS.

BUT HOW MUCH OF IT DOES DEFICIT? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD BE AT THIS POINT.

ONCE WE KNOW WHAT, HOW YOU WANT TO EXPEND THE FUNDS THAT WE COULD RUN THE CHART AND SEE WHAT THOUGH THAT, THAT IMPACT WOULD BE OKAY.

BUT WE COULD, SO IF WE CHOOSE TO EXPEND ALL THOSE FUNDS IN ONE TIME, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE PROJECTING A DEFICIT.

I OPTION THAT SHOWED IT STARTING IN A LATER YEAR TO SEE WHAT THAT IMPACT IS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, I BELIEVE WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON, BUT WE COULD PROBABLY GET THAT TO YOU QUICKLY.

SO WE COULD SPEND THE 12.1 AND JUST DESIGNATED FOR ONE TIME OR FOR PILOT PROGRAMS OR FOR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO RENEW.

UM, AS WELL AS THE 8.1, IF WE CHOSE TO DO THAT, I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ONE-TIME BUCKET, DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE IT FOR ONE.

I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE ONGOING BUCKET, DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE THOSE FUNDS FOR ONGOING EXPENSES.

THIS, UM, I'LL BE REALLY QUICK.

I JUST WANTED TO, UM, RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION MAYOR.

UM, WHEN WE DID THE ARPA, WE HAD GENERAL FUND AND WE HAD ARPA DOLLARS THAT WERE ALLOCATED TO DO THE WHOLE BUCKET.

UM, AT ONE POINT IT WAS DETERMINED THAT FOR LEGAL REASONS, BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF ARPA, IT WAS CLEANER TO HAVE THE HLC FUNDED MORE FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

SO OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WERE FUNDED THROUGH OUR BAR ARE JUST NOT IN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE THERE ARE AND THIS IS ARPA FUNDING THAT WAS NOT ALL MEANT TO BE SPENT.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S AN UNDERSPEND PER SE, AS THIS WAS ALLOCATED OVER THREE OR FOUR YEARS.

AND IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ROLLED OVER BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT WAS CHOSEN TO FUND DIFFERENTLY THAN, THAN ARPA.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THEM TO SAY AS WELL, COUNTERPOINT THIS, THANK YOU.

UM, THANK YOU, CUSTOMER KITCHEN FOR YOUR LINE OF COMMENTS.

I DO JUST ON OUR MIND THIS DAY IS THAT ONE OF THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY WAS ABOUT RAISING THE LIVING WAGE.

UM, AND THE BUDGET PROPOSAL HAD IT AT AN $18 AND I'M BRINGING FOR AN AMENDMENT THAT SEEKS TO RAISE IT TO A $20 MINIMUM WAGE FOR CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO I'M WONDERING WHY I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

UM, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY INFORMATION REGARDING IF WE WERE TO RAISE IT TO A $20 MINIMUM WAGE, HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR BUDGET FORECAST FOR THE EARS? YES, WE INCLUDED, WELL, I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE, UM, STARTING THE $20 NEXT YEAR AND 23 VERSUS OUR, UM,

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OKAY, GREAT.

AND COLLEAGUES, JUST AS A REMINDER, I THINK THE S UH, ASSESSMENT, THE APPROXIMATE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US TO RAISE IT TO $20 WOULD BE BETWEEN FIVE TO 10 MILLION IN ONGOING FUNDS.

UM, UH, SO, UH, VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE A 12 MILLION, UH, AN ONGOING AVAILABLE.

THAT'S GREAT FOR US.

UH, MY LAST QUESTION IS ON THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST FOR US TO RAISE THE WAY WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT? WE'RE FINALIZING THAT, UM, IMPACT AND HOPE TO GET THAT TO YOU.

AND THEN IN THE NEXT DAY, OR BY TODAY, I THINK WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO HAVING THAT DONE.

JUST TO CLARIFY ON THE, UH, PAGE TWO OF THE MEMO SAYS AMANDA FYI, 23 EXPENDITURE BUDGET OF THE GENERAL FUND EMERGENCY RESERVE BY ADDING A TRANSFER OF 14.65 MILLION TO THE LIABILITY RESERVE FUND FOR THE PAYMENT OF LEGAL SETTLEMENTS, THAT TRANSFER WILL GO DIRECTLY FROM THE EMERGENCY RESERVE FUND TO THE LIABILITY RESERVE FUND.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

SO, WILL THAT HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE, UH, AUSTIN POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET FOR PURPOSES OF THE STATE LAW THAT SAYS WE CAN'T RATCHET IT DOWN? NO, IT WILL STAY AT THE FUND LEVEL.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.

WE DO, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF, APOLOGIES IF ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES ASKED FOR THIS ALREADY, BUT I WONDER IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO SEE, TO SEE HOW THAT CHART WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, FISCAL YEAR 20, 26, WELL, TO THE OUT YEAR, TO THE YEARS, THIS YEAR, THE YEARS BEYOND NOW, UM, HOW THAT DEFICIT MAY CHANGE BASED ON DIFFERENT SPENDING THIS YEAR, IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH WILL BE EXPENDED ONGOING? WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE FOUNDATION IS BEFORE WE COULD RUN THE NUMBERS TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON THE OUT YEARS.

I'M WONDERING IF IT'S POSSIBLE JUST TO PICK A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF, OF HOW MUCH WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE CONSIDERING ON AN ONGOING, SO INCREMENTS.

YES, THANKS.

SORRY.

ANY MYSELF, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD POSSIBLY, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT REQUEST AS WELL.

I'D SUPPORT THAT REQUEST AS WELL.

JUST PICKING NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, 5 MILLION, 10 MILLION, JUST SOMETHING SO THAT WE GET A FEEL FOR THE IMPACT.

UM, FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THESE PAGES, COUNCIL MEMBER, AS PART OF THAT, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE.

UM, BUT, UM, DO WE, DO WE HAVE A TALLY AT THE MOMENT OF THE PROPOSALS THAT PEOPLE HAVE PUT FORWARD FOR FUNDING BECAUSE THAT MIGHT HELP INFORM THE DIFFERENT, THE DIFFERENT, UM, SCENARIOS THAT YOU BRING BACK TO US.

WE ARE STILL ACTIVELY RECEIVING, UM, AMENDMENTS.

AND SO WE'VE RECEIVED A COUPLE, UM, TOMORROW'S THE DEADLINE.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A FULL ENOUGH TALLY TO RUN BASED ON WHAT WE RECEIVED SO FAR, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW IS, UM, SO I WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO, TO RUN SEVERAL SCENARIOS AND THEN US BE IN ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS, DOESN'T INCLUDE, INCLUDE OR ACCOUNT FOR THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE IDENTIFIED, UM, AS IMPORTANT.

SO, SO I, SO TOMORROW YOU'LL HAVE AT LEAST WHAT PEOPLE PUT FORWARD SO FAR, EVEN IF THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED IT, IF THEY CAN GIVE US ALL AN IDEA OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEN YOU COULD RUN IT WITH, WITH THAT IN MIND.

NOT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY SCENARIO, BUT AT LEAST WOULD GIVE US.

I MEAN, I THINK I AGREE YOU NEED, WE NEED SEVERAL SCENARIOS.

IT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO KNOW IS OF THE VARIOUS PRIORITIES THAT ALL OF US HAVE IDENTIFIED.

WHAT DOES THAT TRANSLATE INTO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THIS CHART THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, D AM I MAKING SENSE? I THINK WE CAN STILL GET THERE IF WE JUST RUN THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL BUCKETS, UM, BECAUSE IT WILL ADDRESS UP TO THE 12TH THAT'S AVAILABLE BECAUSE IT WILL ADDRESS EVERY POSSIBILITY.

IF YOU ALL DECIDE TO EXPAND THE FULL AMOUNT THAT IS ONGOING OR ANY PORTION BELOW THAT, BUT MAYBE FOR MS. KID COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN'S POINT, MAYBE IT'S MORE THAN TWO POINTS.

MAYBE WE DO TWO AND A HALF, FIVE, SEVEN AND A HALF AND 10, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TOMORROW SO THAT WE CAN, UM, DO AS MUCH VETTING AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH, BECAUSE I MEAN, I, WHEN, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO TALLY UP WHAT EVERYBODY HAS POSTED? WE HAVE ASKED FOR ALL AMENDMENTS, UM, THAT IS POSSIBLE BY THE END OF BUSINESS

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I HAVE A LIST TO YOU BY MONDAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE WE GO TO THE CHIEF COUNCIL MEMBER? ELLIS? NOT A QUESTION.

I'LL JUST SAY THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

AND I KNOW IT'S KIND OF LIKE A CART AND A HORSE WHERE WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF BUCKETS WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WHAT TIME, WHAT IS ONGOING, WHAT IS, UM, ONE TIME FUNDING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW WE'RE STILL GETTING SOME QUESTIONS ROLLING OUT ON THE BUDGET, Q AND A.

AND SO AS, AS WE'VE BEEN EDITING OUR AMENDMENTS AND BUDGET WRITERS, SOMETIMES WE'RE FINDING THINGS THAT CAN BE COVERED OR ARE COVERED.

AND SO WE'RE AMENDING, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A CHANGE IN FINANCIAL NEED VERSUS WHAT IS JUST A REDIRECTION OF FUNDS OR, UM, SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO BRING IT ALL BECAUSE IT'S BEING HANDLED ON THE STAFF SIDE.

SO I THINK OVER THE NEXT DAYS, IT WILL BE REALLY INFORMATIVE TO KNOW WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE WORKING WITH AND WHAT EXACTLY, UM, THE COLLEAGUES HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PROPOSE.

BUT I KNOW THIS IS A REALLY HARD PART OF BUDGET WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHICH DOLLARS ARE NEEDED AND WHERE WE NEED TO APPROPRIATE THEM.

BUT I KNOW, UM, THRESHOLDS TO BE PRESENTED TO US.

THIS IS THE MAIN PRETENDING.

COULD YOU ALSO GIVE US A PROJECTION IF WE, WE WERE TO SET A TAX RATE OF 45, 19 AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED VERSUS THE 46 27, WHAT THAT WAS DO, UM, SO THAT WE COULD PROVIDE A SIMILAR LEVEL OF TAX RELIEF AS WAS PROPOSED ORIGINALLY.

OKAY, WELL, I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU GUYS HERE IN JUST A SECOND, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT, UM, UH, FIRE, FIRE STATIONS OR FIRE GENERALLY, CHIEF.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND SITTING WITH US THIS MORNING.

ABSOLUTELY CAUSE THAT'S NO.

MR. MAYOR, MADAM MAYOR, PORT TEMP.

SO COUNCIL, MY NAME IS GEORGE G. BAKER FIRE CHIEF FOR THE GREAT CITY OF AUSTIN FIRE DEPARTMENT.

HELLO, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FOR THIS.

UM, COLLEAGUES, I POSTED TO THE MESSAGE BOARD EARLIER THIS MORNING, UH, I PLAN TO BRING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT, UH, FOR STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GOODNIGHT RANCH FIRE STATION.

IT IS, UM, WOULD NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR OPERATING BUDGET IS IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.

AND THIS, UH, CONSTRUCTION WAS ON THE SPENDING PLAN FOR LAST YEAR, UH, WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S PROPOSED BUDGET DUE TO CONCERNS ABOUT STAFFING.

UH, HOWEVER, UH, THIS AMENDMENT SEEKS TO, FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GOODNIGHT RANCH FIRE EMS STATION.

AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT STAFFING, UH, DURING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET PROCESS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT MY, UH, AMENDMENT SEEKS TO DO.

UH, CHIEF, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES THAT WE'RE SEEING IN SOUTHEAST AND, UH, AND PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT OF US MOVING FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTING THE GOODNIGHT RANCH STATION.

I DO HAVE SOME, SOME DATA RIGHT THERE, GET MY DATA SHEET FOR RESPONSE TIME AND, UH, COLLEAGUES AS A REMINDER, THIS, UM, THIS EFFORT TO BUILD FIVE NEW FIRE STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, PREDATES MY TIME ON COUNCIL.

MY UNDERSTANDING CAME BACK, UH, IN 2016 AND, UM, AND THAT WE'RE AT LEAST 10 YEARS BEHIND WHERE WE SHOULD BE WITH OUR SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE.

UH, SO THIS REALLY IS SEEKING TO KEEP UP WITH THE NEEDS OF A GROWING CITY TO ENSURE THAT OUR SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE IS ON TRACK.

AND, UM, AND WE ARE EXPERIENCING EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN SOUTHEAST RIGHT NOW.

SO CERTAINLY, UM, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DEMAND FOR US TO HAVE A FIRE EMS STATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH NOW, UH, RIGHT NOW I WILL GO TARGET GOAL IS EIGHT MINUTES RESPONSE TIME CITYWIDE, AND THAT PARTICULAR AREA WE'RE DOING APPROXIMATELY 12 MINUTES IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE.

AND THAT AREA IS REALLY, UH, HAS OUTGROWN THE PACE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CAPABILITY TO RESPOND TO THAT AREA.

SO AGAIN, WE ARE A 12 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.

THE GOAL IS EIGHT MINUTES.

US AND ASKS US TO PRODUCE MORE DOUBTS.

UM, COUNSELOR KELLY, THANK YOU.

AND, UM, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER FONTEZ FOR INVITING ME TO CO-SPONSOR THAT WITH YOU.

UM, SO IN REGARDS TO RESPONSE TIMES IS THE LACK OF RESPONSE EFFECTING HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA VIA THEIR ISO RATING AT ALL? I DON'T THINK AT THIS POINT, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S, UH, HAS AN IMPACT ON ISR RATING.

WE JUST DID AN ISO RATING, UH, UPDATE, AND I THINK WE ARE, UH, ISO CLASS ONE RATING RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT IT CAN HAVE AN IMPACT IF WE DO NOT CORRECT BY THE TIME ISO DECIDED TO COME BACK AND REVISIT

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AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT I DIDN'T SAY WHAT ISL WAS.

IT'S AN INSURANCE SERVICE ORGANIZATION RATING, WHICH AFFECTS HOMEOWNERS RATES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND IS USED AS A NATIONAL STANDARD FOR THAT SORT OF THING.

I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS JUST A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU HAVE A SECOND, UM, THE KEENAN CREEK FIRE STATION, WHICH IS THE FIFTH OF THE FIVE STATIONS PLANNED TO BE CONSTRUCTED, UM, I'M NOT CLEAR ON THE FUNDING THAT'S AVAILABLE IN THIS BUDGET FOR THAT, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE SUFFICIENT FUNDS FOR DESIGN WORK, BUT NOT CONSTRUCTION.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN REPORTED TO ME, WE HAVE $3 MILLION FOR THE DESIGN PHRASE, BUT THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION FUNDING ESTIMATE HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED AT THIS TIME.

AND IS THE DESIGN WORK CURRENTLY IN PROCESS OR IS THAT ON HOLD RIGHT NOW ON PROCESS KATELYN AND RICHARD MENDOZA, UH, INTERIM TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AND A PERMANENT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

THE DESIGN WORK FOR CANYON CREEK RIGHT NOW, UH, HAS BEEN HALTED PENDING FURTHER CONVERSATION ON STAFFING, BUT WE HAVE BEGUN THE PRELIMINARY.

WE'VE ALSO BEEN PARTNERING WITH APD SINCE WE'RE GOING TO SHARE THAT PROPOSED SITE.

SO, UH, WE DO HAVE THE CONSULTANTS ON BOARD AND IT WOULD BE A VERY QUICK MANNER TO GO AHEAD AND RESUME THAT WORK.

UH, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? I SAW THAT YOU WALKED UP.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THE CONTEXT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN STAFF WAS PREPARING THE BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY YOU SAW IT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

WE WERE, UM, NOT PROJECTING AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE ARE NOW.

AND WE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATIONS THAT WE WEREN'T SURE THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE ABOUT THE CHIEF COULD PROBABLY SPEAK MORE ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL STATIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT, UH, ONE COMPANY STATIONS ABOUT A $2 MILLION ANNUAL COST.

IF IT'S A TWO COMPANY STATION YOU'RE AT ABOUT $4 MILLION ANNUALLY AND MAYBE ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS, IF THERE'S AN EMS UNIT THERE AS WELL.

SO IT'S THE OPERATIONS OF THESE STATIONS WITH LIMITED RESOURCES.

THAT IS A CHALLENGE.

AND SO WE REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION OF THIS AND LOOKING AT THAT FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST AND HOW DOES, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE, $6 MILLION ANNUALLY TO RUN THESE FIRE STATIONS FIT INTO THAT FORECAST AND YOUR PRIORITIES.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WE JUST KIND OF PUT ON PAUSE THESE STATIONS UNTIL WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION, UM, THAT YOU DO WANT US TO PROCEED KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT DOES HAVE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCES AND WE HAVE LIMITED RESOURCES.

AND CHIEF BAKER, COULD YOU MAYBE SPEAK TO SOME OF THE RESPONSE TIMES IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, SIX 20 IS RIGHT THERE ALONG THE CORRIDOR WITH A LOT OF VEGETATION AND TREES AND, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING AS MUCH CARE OF THOSE AREAS THAT ARE PRONE TO WILDFIRES AS WE CAN, BY HAVING RESPONSE TIMES THAT ARE SAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT WILL LIMIT DAMAGE TO, TO THE COMMUNITY BY HAVING A SWIFTER RESPONSE TIME.

SO FOR THE CONCRETE AREA IS 10 MINUTES AND 54 SECONDS.

SO THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 11 MINUTES RESPONSE TIME, AGAIN, EIGHT MINUTES RESPONSE TIMES IDEA.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S COUNTING THE DISPATCH TIME, UH, AND THE MEMBER'S ROLE, NOT THE STATION AGAIN, DRESS EIGHT MINUTES.

AND I JUST KNOW FROM TALKING WITH MY CONSTITUENTS, THEY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT IN THEIR AREA BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LACKING THAT SORT OF RESPONSE FOR SO LONG.

AND I JUST, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT FROM A DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE, WE DO NEED TO PROVIDE THAT RESOURCE TO OUR SIDE OF TOWN JUST AS WE DO COUNCIL MEMBER, VONTEZ HIS SIDE OF TOWN.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.

MA'AM UH, MAYOR PRO TAM THEN CASPER, DID YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? CAUSE WE WERE ELLISON KASMIN PAUL, AND THEN I'LL GO.

UM, THANK YOU.

UM, SO I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THAT CANYON CREEK AS WELL.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SITE IS JOINT WITH APD, IS THAT CORRECT? YES MA'AM.

SO IF WE HAUL THE DESIGN PROCESS FROM THE FIRE EMS SIDE, WHICH IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MONEY IS NOT IN THE BUDGET.

IT'S NOT JUST IT'S HALTED FROM A PROCEDURAL PERSPECTIVE.

IS THAT IF MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IS THE PROCESS SIMPLY HALTED OR IS THE MONEY NOT THERE? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

NO, WE ARE FULLY FUNDED FOR COMPLETE DESIGN OF THE CANYON CREEK SIX 20 STATION.

SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN.

THAT THAT'S CORRECT.

AND YOU DON'T DO THE DESIGN FOR THE OTHER, THE OTHER TWO.

UM, HOW DOES THAT WORK IF WE ARE DOING A, THIS ACTUALLY MAY BE PROBABLY MORE FOR DIRECTOR MENDOZA CAUSE IT'S IT'S ACROSS UNITS AND, AND CONSTRUCTION, BUT HOW DOES THAT WORK IF YOU WANT TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE POLICE STATION, WHICH IS VERY MUCH NEEDED AS WELL,

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AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

THEY SHARE THE SITE THAT THEY DO NOT SHARE THE FACILITY.

SO THE DESIGN WORK FOR AFD IS CONTINUING AND IT'S NOT BEING AFFECTED BY THE, UH, WORK ON THE FIRE STATION ITSELF.

I MEAN, IS THE, IS THE PROPERTY BIG ENOUGH THAT THEY, IT IS OKAY.

I'M NOT, THIS IS SORT OF LIKE NEWLY ON THE BORDER OF MY DISTRICTS.

I'M GETTING UP TO SPEED ON IT.

SO THAT'S HELPFUL.

AND DO WE KNOW THAT EMS RESPONSE TIMES AND WHAT THOSE GOALS ARE AND THAT ACROSS THE TWO STATIONS? I DO NOT HAVE, UH, EMS RESPONSE TIME.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, CITY MANAGERS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET IS THE EMS RESPONSE TIMES AND IN BOTH OF THOSE AREAS.

UM, SO I WAS ON THE DIOCESE COUNCIL MEMBER QUANTAS.

I MADE THE MOTION TO EXTEND IT FROM TWO TO FIVE STATIONS BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE DIFFICULTIES, THE THIRD STATION IS IN PROCESS.

AND, UM, WE'LL BE UP AND RUNNING DURING THIS FISCAL YEAR AND, AND, UM, PARTICULARLY OF HELP TO MINE AND COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS' DISTRICT WHERE THERE'S HIGH WILDFIRE.

UM, I AM TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE STATIONS, BUT I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO PLAN THE O AND M.

UM, SO IF WE CAN ALSO, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ALREADY IN THE Q AND A, UM, BUT IF WE NEED TO PLAN 5 MILLION OF ONM FOR A STATION, YOU KNOW, OVER THIS TIME HORIZON AND WE NEED, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT, AND IT WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION IF WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE O AND M AND WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS IS I HOPE THAT WE WILL CONSIDER AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO THIS, THIS DISCUSSION.

AND OBVIOUSLY WE JUST GOT THIS NEWS THIS MORNING, BUT JUST TO FRAME HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF CHOICES THAT WERE MADE IN ORDER TO GET US A SOUND BUDGET IN THE FIRST PLACE, UM, WHERE SOME CUTS WERE MADE SUCH AS THESE FIREHOUSES THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN MADE.

UM, IF WE HAD THE FUNDING PICTURE THAT WE HAVE NOW THAT HAVE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THESE WERE ALSO WITH RESOLUTIONS, I KNOW SEVERAL OF US HAVE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE FROM RESOLUTIONS.

UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT PIECES AND, AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN SAY WE WANT TO FIRE HOUSE AND BUILD IT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLAN FOR THE FUNDING OF IT AND WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A DEFICIT.

UM, SO I THINK WE, WE HAVE TO DEFINITELY THINK ABOUT THAT.

UM, WE HAD A DISPATCH EQUITY STUDY, UM, WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, WITH RESPECT TO EMS AND FIRE, UM, THAT WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT, UM, IMPLEMENTING.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO NEED TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, UM, FOR EMS AS WELL AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS.

AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO THINK THERE MIGHT BE REASON TO CONTINUE WITH THE DESIGN AND AGAIN, I WOULD SUPPORT THE OTHER STATION, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO PLAN PRUDENTLY FROM, UH, FROM A, FROM A FISCAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, FOR THAT.

UM, SO THANK YOU.

MA'AM I AM GOING TO CALL 'EM, UM, UM, CAUSE REMEMBER MADISON BEFORE ME, UM, HAVE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK YET ON THIS ISSUE? I DON'T THINK SO.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER, ALICE COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, AND THEN I'LL GO AND CHIEF LOG QUARTERS.

IT'S, UH, IT'S ONLINE.

HE CAN ASK HIM TO RESPOND.

I BELIEVE HE CAN ANSWER THE RESPONSE TIME FOR US AT THE TIME CALLED CHIEF LOCKER.

DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? I, THE QUESTION WAS WHAT WAS THE EMS RESPONSE TIME IN THAT AREA IN BOTH AREAS? UH, I'LL HAVE TO PULL THAT NUMBER FOR YOU.

I CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW AND I CAN GET IT BACK TO YOU MOMENTARILY.

SO THERE'S TWO AREAS WHERE THE TWO NEW STATIONS WOULD BE BUILT.

AND I, UM, AS MAYOR PRO TEM, WALTER WAS MENTIONING, SHE'S FAMILIARIZING HERSELF WITH ONE THAT IS CLOSER INTO HER DISTRICT NOW.

COUNCILMEMBER ELLIS.

I'M ALSO IN AGREEMENT.

I'D REALLY LIKED US TO FIND A WAY TO CONTINUE BUILDING OUT THESE STATIONS.

I MEAN, I KNOW, I KNOW THEY TAKE SOME TIME, BUT WHEN THEY COME ONLINE, IT'S THE LEAST THAT WE CAN DO FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE RESPONSE TIME.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COMES WITH THE NEED FOR STAFFING AS WELL.

SO, UM, IDEALLY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A STATION FINISHED IF YOU CAN'T, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE PERSON POWER TO STAFF IT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THE PERSON POWER, THEN WE'RE STILL SITTING ON OUR HEELS TRYING TO GET THESE STATIONS OPEN.

AND AS SOMEONE WHO REPRESENTS, UM, THE AREA THAT HAS THE NEW TRAVIS COUNTRY FIRE STATION, I KNOW THAT OPENED LAST OCTOBER AND IT TOOK US UNTIL I THINK OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE APPROPRIATE PRIVATE EASEMENT AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY COULD CHANGE HOW THE SPEED BUMPS AND THE SPEED CUSHIONS WERE OPERATING SO THAT IT WAS FULLY FUNCTIONING.

SO I KNOW THAT THESE ARE COMPLICATED, BUT I JUST, I REALLY WORRIED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THIS DONE IN, IN A TIMELY FASHION, THAT WE DO HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH EXTREME WILDFIRE RISK AND THE RISK ISN'T GOING TO GO DOWN.

SO I DEFINITELY WANT TO FIND A WAY TO DO THIS.

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AND I HAVE THE SAME THING WHERE THE 360 IN DAVENPORT STATION HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT ONE GOING TO BE OPEN ON TIME AND FULLY STAFFED WHEN IT'S OPEN.

ARE YOU AWARE? IT IS.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

A LOOP 360 DAVENPORT.

WE HAVE SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE IN FEBRUARY 24.

IT'S ABOUT 30 DAYS AHEAD OF OUR PLANNED SCHEDULE.

THAT'S REALLY GOOD TO HEAR.

THANK YOU GUYS FROM FEBRUARY 23.

ISN'T IT.

HAVE YOU ALREADY 2023.

YEP.

CAUSE I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE THAT'S OUR POOL.

SO I, I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE STAFFING OF A FIRE STATION.

WE'RE BUILDING IT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE $2 MILLION FOR STAFFING.

WHAT KIND OF TIME LINE DO YOU ANTICIPATE IF WE WERE TO PROCEED WITH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOODNIGHT RANCH? WELL, GOODNIGHT RANCH.

UH, WE ESTIMATE THAT, UH, WE CAN HAVE THE STAFF AND FOR THAT, I BELIEVE WE SAID, UH, THE FALL OF 23.

AND HOW DOES THAT TRACK WITH THE COMPLETION OF THE, THE STATION IS PROJECTIVE.

UM, MR. MANN DOES MUST BE BEDROOM APP, BUT I BELIEVE THE LONG-TERM DATE IS FEBRUARY OR 24, IF NOT THE FALL OF 23.

GOODNIGHT RANCH, FEBRUARY 24, FEBRUARY 24.

SO CAUSE ONE OF THEM YOU SAID WAS FEBRUARY 24, BUT THEN IT WAS FEBRUARY OF 23.

IS THAT THE ONE AT, UH, 360 360 DAVENPORT IS FEBRUARY 23 AND THEN GOODNIGHT.

GOODNIGHT RANCH WOULD BE 12 TO 14 MONTHS AFTER WE GET, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION AUTHORIZATION.

SO IF WE GET THE AUTHORIZATION WITH THE FY 23 BUDGET, UM, COMPLETION FOR GOODNIGHT RANCH WOULD BE AROUND DECEMBER OF 23.

IF WE WAIT FOR A MID-YEAR, UH, CIP, A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, AT THE FIRST OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, IT WOULD PUT IT AROUND FEBRUARY, MARCH OF 24, ABOUT ABOUT FOUR TO SIX MONTHS LATER.

DEPENDING ON THE, UM, OKAY.

AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CHIEF.

UM, DIRECTLY MENDOZA, WE GOT FRONT ROW SEATS FOR EVERYBODY.

UM, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE LADDER, THE AERIAL LADDER.

YES MA'AM.

UM, W THE COUNCIL HAD STRUGGLED FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF THREE, MAYBE BUDGET YEARS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MONEY WOULD COME BOTH TO GET THE EQUIPMENT AND THEN TO, TO, UH, BRING THE STAFFING ONLINE.

CAN YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT? I'M NOT SURE, UH, WHERE WE ARE AS A CITY WITH THE STAFFING FOR THE AREA.

I KNOW WE DO NOT.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE FUNDING FOR THE AREA THAT WE BOUGHT THE TRUCK ITSELF.

WE HAVE NOT, UM, BEEN PROVIDED THE, UH, FTES TO SUPPORT THAT TRUCK.

SO WHAT WE DID, WE TOOK THE NEW TRUCK, PUT IT IN A SERVICE AND WE TOOK ANOTHER TRUCK OUT IN THE RESERVE, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE THE STAFFING FOR THE TRUCK THAT COUNCIL PURCHASE.

AND I THINK THAT THE STATION IT BE, SO TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT AND, AND JUST DON'T HAVE A PEOPLE.

SO, SO IF YOU ASK, ARE YOU ASKING ME, UH, WHEN WOULD I HAVE THE PEOPLE FOR AS SOON AS COUNCIL AUTHORIZE IT AND WHAT WOULD THAT COST? IT COST 1.7 TO MEGAN, TO STAFF AREA TRUCK.

AND HOW LONG HAVE, HAS THAT BEEN PENDING? HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN HAVING THAT CONVERSATION? I THINK IT PREDATES YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS, POSSIBLY APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS PLUS A MINUS.

DOES THAT PREDATE YOU COMING IN AS CHIEF, OR IS THAT, DOES THAT PREDATE YOU COMING IN IS CHEAPER OR IS THIS IT, SO IF YOU HAD TO PICK YOUR FAVORITE CHILD, UM, WHICH REALLY, ISN'T A FAIR QUESTION, I SUPPOSE, BECAUSE THE AERIAL LADDER IS ONE FUNCTION WITH ONE COST AND ONE IMPLEMENTATION DATE AND BUILDING A STATION IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

THEY'RE BOTH NECESSARY.

I'M TRYING TO WEIGH WHICH WAY TO GO.

YOU WOULD BUILD THE FIRE STATION.

OR THE AREA ON THE COVER OF ONE PART IS FITTED.

OUR HAVING UNIT RESPOND TO AREA FOR FIRE STATION COVERAGE, PART OF THE CITY WITHIN 12 MINUTES RESPONSE TIME.

AND THE RESPONSE TIME PIECE IS KEY HERE.

THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU, MARK.

COUNCIL MEMBER HOPPER, MADISON.

HE HAS ABOUT HARPER MADISON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME ACCOUNTS? REMEMBER HARPER, MADISON

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I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HEAR ME.

MY APOLOGIES.

UM, SO YEAH, I THINK MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.

THERE WAS ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE DESIGN PERIOD FOR THE STATIONS THAT WASN'T ANSWERED BY WAY OF BEING ASKED.

UM, YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE ME IT'S IT'S THE END OF A SLEEPOVER, SO EVERYBODY'S TRANSITIONING OUT LITERALLY RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO THE, THE QUESTION, UM, WAS, UH, WAS AROUND THE TIMELINE FOR COMPLETION OF THE DESIGN PHASE FOR WHAT STATION MA'AM ARE YOU REFERRING TO, BUT I CAN'T HEAR YOU CHIEF.

CAN YOU SPEAK UP FOR WHAT STATION IS GOOD NIGHT RANCHO.

SO CANYON CREEK STATION YOU REFERRING TO THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR GOODNIGHT RANCH.

THE DESIGN IS I HEAR YOU ON MY END.

HOW'S THIS IS THIS BETTER, SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY.

SO GOODNIGHT RANCH IS CURRENTLY AT 95% DESIGN, UM, ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT.

AND FOR, UM, UH, THE SIX 20 STATION, THE FIFTH STATION WE'RE IN PRELIMINARY DESIGN, UH, APPROXIMATELY FIVE OR 10%.

I APPRECIATE THAT RESPONSE.

I'M SORRY, BUT IT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT TIMELINE.

SO 95% MEANS 5% LESS, WHICH MEANS HOW LONG TOOK THEM.

SO FOR GOODNIGHT RANCH, THE DESIGN OF WE COMPLETE IN OCTOBER, AND IF WE DO RESUME THE DESIGN WORK ON THE FIFTH AND FINAL STATION, THAT DESIGN WILL BE COMPLETE BY THE SUMMER OF 23.

I APPRECIATE THAT RESPONSE.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION, UM, UH, WAS MORE FOR, UM, FOR ED THAN IT IS FOR THE CHIEF.

GO AHEAD AND ASK IT TO YOU.

UH, SO, UH, FOR THE, UH, 20, UH, 2223 PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, STEPH DIDN'T PROJECT SUFFICIENT FUNDS IN FUTURE YEARS TO SUSTAIN THE ONGOING OPERATIONS COSTS OF ADDITIONAL STATIONS, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT POTENTIAL FUNDING MECHANISMS OR OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY.

I THINK I HEARD A PART OF IT EARLIER, BUT MIGHT'VE MISSED A PORTION.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME IF THERE'S SOME DUPLICATION IN, IN THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

UM, THE FUNDING FOR A FIRE STATION IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

IT NEEDS TO BE RECURRING FUNDING.

OF COURSE, YES.

AT THE TIME WE PUT THE BUDGET TOGETHER, WE WERE NOT PROJECTING SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE THESE STATIONS.

OF COURSE, AS YOU SAW EARLIER TODAY FROM CARRIE, UM, OUR SALES TAXES AND PROPERTY TAXES HAVE BOTH COME IN QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR.

UM, AND SO THAT FINANCIAL PICTURE HAS CHANGED.

UM, BUT YES, IT WOULD BE THINGS LIKE SALES TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES, GENERAL FUND REVENUES THAT WE USE TO FUND A FIRE STATION.

TO, TO KNOW THAT RAY ARIANA ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, I'D BE GLAD TO GO BACK AND SEE WHAT THAT OFFER THAT PROPOSAL WAS AND REPORT BACK TO COUNTY.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY GENERALLY, BUT ALSO SOME SPECIFICALLY, UM, UH, LET ME BEGIN WITH POLICE.

UH, I'M IN FAVOR, YOU CAN'T HEAR, I JUST ACCIDENTALLY UN-MUTED MYSELF.

THAT WAS NOT FOR YOU APOLOGIZE.

ALRIGHT, NO PROBLEM.

UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF US FILLING THE, UH, FUNDED, BUT NOT FILLED POLICE POSITIONS, UH, AS RAPIDLY AS WE CAN CONSISTENT WITH, UH, UH, OUR, OUR POLICIES AND DIRECTION.

UH, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, UH, BEING PART OF A COUNCIL THAT VOTED FOR A DIRECTION TO, UM, TO STAFF THAT SAID, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MOVE TO ACCELERATE CLASSES OR HAVE MORE CLASSES, UH, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE, UM, UH, BRING IN, UH, CROLL OR SOME THIRD PARTY TO HELP MONITOR THAT, MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.

AND I APPRECIATE STAFF'S EFFORTS, UH, IN THOSE REGARDS AND ANTICIPATE, UH, THAT COMING BACK TO COUNCIL IS THAT RESOLUTION PROVIDED.

CAUSE I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FILL THOSE POSITIONS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN FUNDED, UM, UM, BUT ARE, BUT ARE VACANT.

UH, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I HAD HEARD THE POLICE SUGGESTED AT ONE POINT ABOUT CIVILIANIZING SIX SWARM FTE POSITIONS IN THE REAL TIME CRIME CENTER.

UH, SO AS TO FREE UP SIX SWORN POSITIONS, UH, SO THAT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO FEEL I'M, I DON'T KNOW, AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR A RESPONSE RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, SINCE I'M JUST RAISING THIS, IF SOMEONE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND RESPOND BACK TO COUNCIL, WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A WAY FOR US TO, UH, GET SOME MORE OFFICERS ON THE STREET, UM, UH, IN THE POSITIONS, I WOULD LIKE

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THAT'D BE GREAT.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL REQUESTS FOR, FOR POLICE, UH, GOING OUT THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, KELLY, UH, WAS GOING TO, UH, BRING, UH, UH, AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE TO US FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UH, YOU HAVE THE FIRE STATIONS THAT, THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED HERE.

UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE AERIAL AND THE LADDER TRUCK, UH, ISSUE, WHICH I, UH, WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IN THE PAST.

AND YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT, UH, THAT IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT, UM, WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR, UM, UH, FUTURE COUNCILS, IF NOT THIS COUNCIL TO CONSIDER BEING ABLE TO BRING ON BOARD.

UH, AND I ALSO SEE WITH EMS, THERE'S A, THE REQUEST FOR, UH, AIR PACKS, UH, AND, AND, AND OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.

THERE'S AN EMAIL THAT WENT OUT TO ALL OF US FROM THE GRIME COMMISSION, UH, HERE TODAY, UH, EDDIE MAR GAIN THAT LISTED SOME OF THOSE PRIORITIES AS WELL AS PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.

AND CERTAINLY WE HAVE NEEDS IN ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS THAT AREN'T BEING MET.

BUT HERE'S MY SPECIFIC QUESTION.

AND I THINK AS FOR HER ADD, WITH RESPECT TO THIS REPORT, THERE'S A MENTION IN THE MEMO THAT YOU SENT OUT ABOUT THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST, THE CHART WE'RE SEEING THAT SHOWS A SURPLUSES OR NOT SURPLUSES HAS HAVING TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, UH, AN ADDITIONAL 130 SOME ODD POLICE ON TOP OF, AND IN ADDITION TO THE 200, SOME ODD OF FUNDED, BUT UNFILLED POSITIONS, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

UM, THAT, THAT WE P WE HAVE THAT INTO THE FORECAST BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR 25 AND ADDITIONAL, I BELIEVE IT'S ADDITIONAL, UH, 35 AND 25 AND 45, AND THEN 55, A TOTAL OF 135 OVER THE, OVER THE FIVE-YEAR PROJECTION.

WE HAVEN'T DEBATED THAT PUBLIC PRIORITY, THAT PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITY RELATIVE TO THE OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE.

UH, AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR US NECESSARILY TO HAVE THAT DEBATE THIS YEAR, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO TRY AND FILL THE FUNDED, BUT UNFILLED POSITIONS.

UH, SO IT'S NOT EVEN IF WE APPROPRIATED MORE MONEY FOR NEW POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS, WE COULDN'T PUT THEM ON THE GROUND ANYHOW.

UH, AND AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN BE DOING TO ACCELERATE THOSE CLASSES OR INCREASE THE POLICE PRESENCE IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING, PLEASE BRING THAT FORWARD TO US CONSISTENT WITH, UH, THE CULTURAL DIRECTIONS AND THE ACADEMY DIRECTIONS THAT WE HAD.

BUT WHEN WE APPROVE THIS BUDGET, ARE WE APPROVING THE FIVE-YEAR FISCAL PLAN IN ANY WAY? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT CHANGES EVERY YEAR, BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, STAFFS, STAFFS FORECAST OF THE FUTURE.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T VIEW YOU APPROVING THE BUDGET AS BEING A, NECESSARILY AN ENDORSEMENT OF THAT FINANCIAL FORECAST.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT FIVE-YEAR THAT WAS ALSO APPROVED, BUT AS I LOOK AT IT, AND AS WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HERE, IF WE DO THE FIRE STATION, DOES THAT RESULT IN A, IN A GAP IN YEAR FIVE? THAT IN PART DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO, OR THAT SUBSEQUENT COUNCILS ARE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 130 POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS? THAT'S CORRECT.

I MEAN, IT MIGHT BE THAT WE COULD ADD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT POSITIONS OR OTHER ONGOING EXPENSES STILL WITHIN THE CHART.

AND YOU HAVE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BUILT INTO THAT CHART, A CONSIDERABLE PUBLIC SAFETY EXPENDITURE.

THAT IS, THAT IS, UM, NOT YET IN OUR ONE-TIME SPENDING.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.

UM, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT AS, YOU KNOW, AS ONE OF THOSE SCENARIOS YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY, BUT I ALSO WANTED COLLEAGUES TO KNOW AS THEY'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVES AND I WASN'T RECOMMENDING ANYONE OVER ANOTHER, I WAS JUST POINTING OUT THAT SHOULD THIS COUNCIL WANT TO DO THE FIRE STATIONS AND FUND THEM THIS YEAR WITH THE ONE-TIME DOLLARS? AND IT, IT, IT WON'T, UH, NECESSARILY, UH, WIDEN THE GAP IN YEAR FIVE, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASSUMING BRINGING IN MORE PUBLIC SAFETY FTE POSITIONS THAN IS REPRESENTED BY THE FIRE STATIONS TO START WITH.

SO IF WE WERE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS A COUNCIL, NOT AS A FUTURE EXPENDITURE THERE, THAT ALREADY DECIDED TO SPEND THAT IN ONE PARTICULAR PUBLIC SAFETY WAY, WE COULD DO SOMETHING THIS YEAR IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND STILL NOT MESS UP THAT CHART.

IF WE WERE MAKING A DECISION ABOUT COMPETING PRIORITIES IN PUBLIC SAFETY, IS THAT RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

YOU CAN LOOK AT A FORECAST.

YOU CAN LOOK AT A FORECAST IS JUST, WE WANT NOTHING IN IT, BUT JUST BASE EXPENDITURES.

HERE'S THE BUDGET THAT'S PROPOSED, OR THE BUDGET THAT'S ADOPTED BY COUNCIL FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

AND JUST THAT BUDGET GOING FORWARD FOR LABOR INCREASES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? YOU COULD DO A FORECAST WHERE EVERYTHING ON COUNSEL'S WISHLIST IS INCLUDED IN THE FORECAST AND WE'LL HAVE A BIG DEFICIT, BUT WE COULD BUILD THAT FORECAST.

AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DID HERE IN THIS CASE WAS JUST A, BASICALLY A BASE FORECAST WITH THAT ONE EDITION OF THE POLICE OFFICERS, BUT OF COUNCIL WANTS US TO SHOW THEM A FORECAST WITH IT, JUST BEING THAT BASED SCENARIO.

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OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, MAYOR PRO UH, KIND OF OUR TOBO THEN COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY THAN THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

MARY, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, ONE OF THE ELEMENTS YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PROPOSAL TO CONVERT CIVILIAN FOLKS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE GOT INFORMATION IN OUR BUDGET Q AND A ABOUT THAT.

AND I JUST WANTED TO INVITE ANYBODY WHO, ANY RECOLLECTION OF WHERE THAT INFORMATION WAS COVERED TO POINT US TO IT WAS IT MAYBE IN THE LIST OF UNMET NEEDS.

WE GOT SOME CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT IT.

THAT WAS CURIOUS.

SO I'M GLAD YOU RAISED IT, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE I SAW IT EITHER.

UH, BUT IT SEEMED AS BE A WAY THAT WE COULD GET SIX MORE OFFICERS ON.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS DEFINITELY WORTH EXPLORING AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER INFORMATION WE GOT ABOUT IT.

I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, I DIDN'T TOTALLY FOLLOW THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE GIVEN AND YOU REFERENCED A COUPLE OTHER POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS THAT FOLKS ARE BRINGING IN.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SUGGEST, AND THIS MIGHT BE WHAT'S ABOUT TO OCCUR THAT IF THAT, IF COLLEAGUES ARE BRINGING AMENDMENTS ON THAT TOPIC, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO JUST AIR THEM NOW IN THIS WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.

WE COULD CERTAINLY BRING THOSE OUT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE ASKED THE QUESTION.

AND I WASN'T SAYING THAT PEOPLE WERE BRINGING THOSE AMENDMENTS.

THOSE WERE OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY HAD.

AND I THINK THE ONE THAT COUNTS MY POINT IS THAT THOSE WERE OTHER THINGS I WASN'T SURE IF ANYBODY HAS STEPPED FORWARD ON THOSE YET OR NOT.

I SURE.

AND SO COUNCIL MEMBER FRONT OFFICES IS THE FIRE STATION, RIGHT? YEAH.

I DON'T, I'M NOT, AND I'M SORRY IF I'VE MISSING MESSAGE WORD POSTS, BUT I'VE MISSED YEARS COUNCIL MEMBER OF KELLY.

SO YEAH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD JUST SORT OF RAPID FIRE KIND OF SHARE IF THERE ARE AMENDMENTS COMING FORWARD, A BUDGET DIRECTION ON THIS TOPIC, I'D BE INTERESTED IN THAT IF OTHERS AND THERE MAY NOT BE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO PRESUPPOSE THAT, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO IS SAYING THE NEXT THING WE MIGHT TALK ABOUT OR OTHER IDEAS ON PUBLIC SAFETY ONCE WE LET THE CHIEF SIT DOWN.

AND I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE, UH, COUNSELOR KITCHEN.

UH, YEAH, I THINK WE HAD MENTIONED BEFORE THAT SOMETIME DURING THIS MEETING, NOT LIMITED BY TOPIC, WE WOULD JUST HAVE EACH PERSON GO THROUGH AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SURFACE THOSE THINGS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF OR FOR THE PRESENTATION HERE SO FAR AND PUBLIC SAFETY? YEAH.

COULD I JUST EXPLAIN MY POINT IS JUST THAT WHILE WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS HERE, IF THERE ARE SOME, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT, BUT WELL, MAYBE WE COULD HIT ANY PUBLIC SAFETY ONES WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

I JUST THINK WE'D DO BETTER WHEN WE'RE LIKE SUBJECT FOCUS.

AND JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, WHAT THAT WAS THAT I'M NOT SUGGESTING A DIFFERENT APPROACH.

IT'S JUST BOTH WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY.

COOL.

KELLY, THANK YOU.

SO YOU HAD MENTIONED ME BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD.

I'M GUESSING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LICENSE PLATE READERS IS, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS COMING STILL COMING FORWARD AS A RESOLUTION, WHICH YOU ARE A CO-SPONSOR OF COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO SO, UM, I DO HAVE MY STAFF LOOKING INTO CONTINUING THE DESIGN OF THE CANYON CREEK FIRE STATION, WHICH I DO INTEND ON BRINGING FORWARD.

ONCE WE FULLY RESEARCH IT, WE SHOULD HAVE IT READY TOMORROW.

AND THEN, UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS, BUT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN BACK THE QUESTIONS TO THE BUDGET Q AND A YET.

AND SO I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION PREPARED.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF BAKER THOUGH, TO JUST KIND OF SWITCH GEARS, UM, STATION 25 DROVE BY THERE THE OTHER DAY AFTER I LEFT MY GRANDMA'S HOUSE, CHECKING ON HER, CHECKING THE MAIL, AND IT'S STILL, UM, UNDERGOING RENOVATIONS.

IS THAT CORRECT? DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE FOR US ABOUT, I DO NOT HAVE AN UPDATE.

I CAN HAVE SOME INFAMY SENT TO YOUR OFFICE.

I WANT TO BE ACCURATE WHEN I SAY THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE CREWS THEY'RE DIFFERENT STATIONS.

AND SO THAT'S IMPACTING A LITTLE WHILE RESPONSE TIMES JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT BY MUCH THE WAY THAT YOU ALL WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE CRUISE AROUND.

SO AN UPDATE FROM MY OFFICE WOULD BE GREAT.

AND I THINK THE EMS CHIEF MAY HAVE SOME RESPONSE TIME NUMBERS FOR US.

YES, I DO.

THE CURRENT, UH, AVERAGE RESPONSE TIME FOR THE GOODNIGHT RANCH STUDY REGION IS, UH, 10 MINUTES, UH, AND UH, 34 SECONDS.

AND THE AVERAGE OR THE AVERAGE MEDIAN RESPONSE TIME FOR THE CANYON CREEK AREA IS EIGHT MINUTES AND 51 SECONDS.

THAT'S OUR CURRENT MODELING.

UM, AND THEN WE'VE, WE'VE MOVED FORWARD TO MODEL WHAT THAT, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WITH BEING OKAY.

ARE FOR EMS, WHICH MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN FIRE? YES, OUR GOAL, OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO BE ON SCENE FOR ELECTRIC EMERGENCY WITHIN 10 MINUTES.

MAYBE FOR A TIME CHIEF, CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THE GOAL, THE TIME GOALS

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THE MEETING RESPONSE TIMES THAT I PROVIDE YOU THOUGH ARE AMONGST ALL OF OUR VARIOUS THINGS.

SO I'D HAVE TO BREAK THAT DOWN AND I CAN GIVE YOU A MORE DETAILED REPORT THAT BASED ON PRIORITIES, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT PRIORITIES OF CALLS AND WE USE, UH, DIFFERENT, UM, CRITERIA AND DIFFERENT RESPONSE ON CRITERIA, DEPENDING ON HOW LIFE-THREATENING THOSE CALLS ARE.

SO CAN YOU HELP US? SO THIS, THESE WOULD BE FIRE AND EMS STATIONS AND THE BULK OF OUR CALLS ARE ACTUALLY MEDICAL.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE TO THE VALUE OF THESE EMS STATIONS, GIVEN YOUR KNOWLEDGE? SURE, SURE.

THE GOODNIGHT RANCH AREA IS AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER AS A RAPIDLY GROWING AREA.

AND WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN VOLUME OF CALLS, UM, FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, UM, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE, UM, WE SAW ABOUT A 25% OR 20% INCREASE BETWEEN 2020 AND 2021.

UM, IN THE VOLUME OF CALLS WE'RE SEEING IN THE GOODNIGHT RANCH REGION.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'VE RELOCATED ONE OF OUR, UH, AMBULANCES THAT WERE BUDGETED LAST YEAR INTO, UH, ONE OF OUR STATIONS BY THE, UH, SOUTHWEST, UH, BRANCH LIBRARY.

AND IT WAS MEDIC 24.

UM, BUT IT HAS JUST PLACED SOME OF OUR OTHER UNITS THAT ARE NOW HOUSING OUTSIDE.

AND SO THE ABILITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT FURTHER DOWN IN THAT REGION WERE GOOD NIGHT RANCHES WOULD BE, UH, ABSOLUTELY HELPED US INCREASE OUR IMPROVE OUR RESPONSE TIMES AND THE CANYON CREEK AREA.

UM, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE VOLUME.

WE DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCE AND TO SHIFT TO THAT AREA.

AND WE DO PROJECT THAT WE WOULD SEE A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN OUR OVERALL RESPONSE TIMES BY SEVERAL MINUTES, IF WE WERE ABLE TO RELOCATE OR TO, TO ADD A UNIT TO THE GOODNIGHT RANCH, SUGAR, I'M SORRY, THE CANYON COULD THINK.

AND THEN FOR BOTH CHIEFS ARE THESE TWO, DO THESE TWO SITES REMAIN THE AREAS THAT WOULD BE THE HIGHEST TARGETS FROM WHAT YOU'RE SEEING FROM YOUR DATA BEYOND THE FACT THAT THE 360 1 IS NOT AN OPERATIONAL.

AND I KNOW THE TRAVIS COUNTRY JUST CAME ON BOARD.

ARE YOU REFERRING TO, I CAN'T SEE THE CHIEF.

I'M SORRY.

I CAN ONLY SEE THE COUNCILMAN BY MAYOR PRO TEM.

UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE HIGHEST AREAS FOR US RESPONSE TIME NEEDS? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

GOODNIGHT WRITES AND CAN CREATE AT THIS TIME WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MEET THE EIGHT MINUTES RESPONSE TIME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM SINCE WE DID THIS ANALYSIS ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO, NOW THAT THAT WAS STILL THAT THOSE REMAIN A PRIORITY, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIES CAN CHANGE OVER TIME.

AND I JUST WANT TO RECONFIRM THAT FROM YOUR EXPERTISE AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE AT THIS POINT, THAT AS FAR AS FIRE CONCERNED, THEY ARE STILL THE TOP PRIORITY.

AND FOR EMS, YES.

UH, BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, THEY ARE A WELL POSITIONED FOR THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING IN THE VOLUME CHANGE LEUCINE, PARTICULARLY IN THE GOODNIGHT RANCH AREA.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE, FOR THE CHIEFS.

I DO HAVE SEVERAL PUBLIC SAFETY AMENDMENTS WHEN APPROPRIATE.

WHILE WE HAVE THE, YES, KASMIN FOR THIS, I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP TWO POINTS ON ANY DELAYS.

IF THERE WERE ANY DELAYS ON THE GOODNIGHT RANCH FIRE STATION.

UM, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, WELL, WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT, UH, COSTS ARE GOING UP WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING, ESPECIALLY WITH SUPPLIES AND WITH LABOR.

UM, BUT DIRECTOR MENDOZA, DO YOU KNOW, OR CHIEF BAKER, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IF WE WERE TO DELAY THE GOOD NIGHT RANCH FIRE STATION CONSTRUCTION, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

UM, WE SAW A ESCALATION AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, NOT DISSIMILAR FROM, FROM OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS AROUND THE CITY, UH, FOR THE GOODNIGHT RANCH ON THE ORDER FROM SPRING, WE HAD ESTIMATED, UH, CONSTRUCTION COSTS AROUND 15 MILLION, OUR LAST CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DESIGN BUILDER THAT NUMBER'S NOW AROUND 18.

SO YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT A 20, 25% ESCALATION IN ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

, WE HAVE AN INCREASE OF 19% DOUBLE FOR GOODNIGHT RANCH.

SO COLLEAGUES, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT ANY FURTHER DELAYS, HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE TOTAL PRICE.

UM, AND SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EMS HAS A ROTATING UNIT THAT THEY COULD HOUSE IN THE STATION ONCE IT'S COMPLETED.

AND THAT WE COULD EVEN DO A RESERVE ENGINE AT THIS STATION ONCE IT'S COMPLETED.

SO THERE WOULD POTENTIALLY, OR THERE IS, IT COULD BE A USE FOR THE FIRE AND EMS STATIONS.

WE CANNOT DO A RESERVE APPARATUS, A GOOD NIGHT RANCH MUST'VE BEEN PLAYED IT.

WE WILL HAVE, UH, UH, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.

I'LL TAKE THAT BACK.

WE DO A RESERVE.

I'M THINKING THAT MIGHT, IF YOU BUILD IT TODAY, WE WOULD HAVE IT.

I JUST NEED THE PEOPLE TO PUT IT IN.

NOW WE CAN PUT A, WE'LL PUT AN APPARATUS IN NOW.

I'M SORRY, MAN, BECAUSE

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I DO NOT HAVE A VALID FOR CREEK, BUT I'M QUITE SURE IT'S ABOUT THE SAME.

HMM.

IF YOU COULD GET US THAT FOR BOTH STATIONS, I THINK IT'D BE REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE, WHICH I WISH WE HAD HAD A MORE PUBLIC CONVERSATION BEFORE THE BUDGET WAS PROPOSED ON THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND, AND SHARE ON THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO SEE THAT DATA ON TO UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE THAT COULD COULD BE ADDED PUBLIC SAFETY IS ONE OF OUR PRIME RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH THANK YOU.

AND YEP.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

AM I? AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE AWARE OF THAT, THAT THERE IS A, UH, FINANCIAL IMPLICATION IF WE CONTINUE ANY FURTHER DELAYS ON THE CONSTRUCTION.

SO THANK YOU.

WHILE WE HAVE A CHIEF, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO PEOPLE, DAYLIGHTING PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS THEY HAVE, WHILE WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF WITH US, CHIEF, I'M GONNA LET YOU GO AHEAD AND SIT DOWN.

UM, LET'S SEE, SIT DOWN, SIT DOWN FOR JUST ONE SECOND.

I'M NOT GONNA LET YOU GO THROUGH, WE'RE DONE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY HERE, JUST IN CASE A QUESTION COMES UP.

I'M GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE HERE.

UH, BUT NOW IT'D BE A GOOD TIME COLLEAGUES TO, TO DAYLIGHT OTHER, UM, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS OR DIRECTIONS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT BE BRINGING ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, THE ONLY ONE I HAD REALLY WAS TO, UH, ADDRESS THE, THE, THE FIVE-YEAR, UM, UH, FORECAST TO SAY THAT, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT ASIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE FUTURE, AND WE'LL LET THE FOLKS THEN DECIDE WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO DO THAT BASED ON THEIR PRIORITIES AT THAT TIME AND THE MOMENTS AT THAT TIME.

UH, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE HEAR BACK FROM STAFF, UH, THAT CONCEPT OF, UH, CIVILIANIZING SIX WARNED FTES AND THE REAL TIME, UH, CRISIS CENTER, UH, SO THAT, UH, SWORN OFFICERS CAN BE MOVED OUT AND TO CHECK WITH, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE POLICE CHIEF TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD OPERATIONALLY LIKED TO BE ABLE TO DO DOWNTOWN, REMEMBER VELAR, UH, MA UH, WORKING OFF OF YOUR QUESTIONS REGARDING THE 135, UH, APD OFFICERS THAT WERE PROGRAMMING INTO THE BUDGET.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CLEAN, UH, PROJECTION WITHOUT KIND OF, UH, PLANNED, UH, APD HIRES.

I MEAN, I KNOW MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS HAVE STAFFING PLANS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO FEED THAT PROJECTION JUST BASED ON KIND OF CURRENT, UH, BUDGET, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BASELINE BUDGET AND NOT INCORPORATING KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FUTURE HIRES OR FUTURE ANTICIPATED HIRES.

I JUST THINK THAT HELPS US MAKE MORE OF AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON, AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF ANTICIPATING, UH, THE HIRING OF, UH, ADDITIONAL STAFF THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY REQUEST TO, UH, TO THE CITY MANAGER IN THE, IN THE BUDGET OFFICE.

AND ALSO, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH, IS THERE A REASON, AGAIN, THAT, THAT APD EVENT, AND FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT, OR, YOU KNOW, EMS AT OTHER ANTICIPATED KIND OF STAFF PLANS ARE NOT ROLLED INTO THAT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE, FOR THE MANAGER, FOR, FOR AD THE QUESTION WAS SPECIFIC TO OUR FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST.

WHY DO WE INCLUDE, UM, SOME POSITIONS FOR APD, BUT NOT FOR, AND IN THE MEMO IN PARTICULAR, LIKE I KNOW THAT THE PRIOR MEMO THAT YOU HAD AND THE AUGUST 10TH MEMO, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS THAT LINE WHERE IT SAYS, DO, UH, EXPENDITURE PROJECTIONS REFLECT ALL KNOWN IN TITILLATED BASELINE COST INCREASES, AS WELL AS THE ADDITION OF 135 SWORN POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS IN THE LATER YEARS, ACCORDING TO THE APD STOPPING PLAN, WHICH AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND, BUT MY, AGAIN, WITHOUT KNOWING, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE STAFFING PLANS THAT WOULD ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS DOWN THE ROAD.

THERE'S DEPARTMENTS HAVE ADDITIONAL STAFFING PLANS.

NOT JUST IN PUBLIC SAFETY, RIGHT.

OFTENTIMES I DON'T KNOW IF I'D WANT TO SAY ALWAYS, BUT, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WE WILL PRESENT THE FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST IS JUST THAT STRAIGHT BASE FORECAST.

THIS IS JUST THE BUDGET THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE OR THE BUDGET WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND WHAT DOES THAT FORECAST OUT TO LOOK LIKE? UM, THIS, THE CITY MANAGER HAD REAL CONCERNED ABOUT PRESENTING A FORECAST THAT DIDN'T REFLECT SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS, PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVEN'T ADDED POSITIONS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A WHILE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THE FINANCIAL PICTURE, WE WERE SEEING THOUGH WE COULDN'T FIT EVERYTHING INTO THE FORECAST.

WE EVEN HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TAX RATE ELECTIONS.

AND IF WE HAD TO GO THAT RATE, UH, THAT WAY, UH, TO FUND SOME PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS, WELL, THINGS LIKE A FIRE EMS STATIONS, A NICE TANGIBLE THING TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT REVENUE CAP IN ORDER TO FUND SOME OF THESE CRITICAL NEEDS, UM, TO CALL FOR A TAX RATE ELECTION.

SO THAT WAS JUST SOME OF OUR THINKING WHEN WE WERE PUTTING THE FORK AT RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANT IT'S LIKE WE'VE HEARD UP THERE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, WANTING TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND REFLECT

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THAT IN THIS FORECAST.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO WANTED TO PRESENT A FORECAST THAT, THAT DIDN'T SHOW MASSIVE DEFICITS.

UM, INTO THE OUT YEARS, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT A FORECAST THAT, THAT SHOWED THAT WE WERE TRYING OUR BEST TO REMAIN WITHIN OUR PROJECTED RESOURCES.

UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE PROJECTED RESOURCES, UM, HAVE IMPROVED.

UM, BUT AT THE TIME AGAIN, WE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT DEFICITS AND STRUGGLING WITH, UM, HOW WE WERE GOING TO FUND THINGS IN THE FUTURE.

AND I, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE, I WOULD APPRECIATE KIND OF LIKE A BASELINE AND THEN MAYBE ALTERNATIVE SCENARIO, YOU KNOW, WHEN ONE THAT WOULD INCLUDE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, CORE AGENCIES ARE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, APD, FIRE, EMS KIND OF STAFFING PLANS OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, JUST TO KIND OF HELP US WITH, UH, WITH, UH, OUR ANALYSIS.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL MAYBE IS ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW ABOUT DIFFERENT FORECAST SCENARIOS.

SO I THINK IF WE COULD HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN INFINITE NUMBER OF SCENARIOS WE COULD RUN.

AND SO IF WE COULD TRY TO BOIL IT DOWN TO THREE OR FOUR SCENARIOS THAT IN, AND, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME CLARITY OF WHAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAFF GO BACK AND RUN, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THOSE.

UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

LIKE THE ONE TO ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE WOULD BE YOUR STRAIGHT BASELINE SCENARIO.

THEN AGAIN, TWO OR THREE OTHER SCENARIOS WITH, AGAIN, WHATEVER SUGGESTIONS THAT THE CITY MANAGER THINKS I THINK IS IN THE BUDGET, STAFF THINK ARE MOST APPROPRIATE.

MAYOR PRO TEM, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY AT DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

SORRY.

UM, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY AMENDMENTS IN SECOND, BUT I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT YOU CAN CLARIFY FOR ME.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AS A WORKING GROUP, UM, RELATIVE TO PENSIONS AND, UM, MAKING SURE, UM, THAT OUR COERCE SYSTEM IS SECURE.

UM, DOES THE BUDGET INCLUDE WHAT NEEDS TO BE THERE AND DOES THE FORECAST INCLUDE WHAT NEEDS TO BE THERE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING? IT DOES, BUT IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING YET.

SO IF THOSE, IF THOSE REFORMS ARE THE COERCE REFORMS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT WE'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH COWORKERS ARE SUCCESSFULLY PASSED IN THE 88 LEGISLATURE, THEY WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE JANUARY OF 2024.

SO THERE WOULD BE FUNDING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED IN THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE, WE HAVE FUNDING IN THE FYI 23 BUDGET JUST FOR OUR CURRENT REQUIRED CONTRIBUTIONS TO COOLERS, BUT ALL THE REFORMS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

AND ARE THEY, UM, FORECASTED? YEAH.

AND, AND INCLUDING THE APRS REFORMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THE COERCE REFORMS THAT WE ANTICIPATE GETTING IN PLACE.

UM, AND IT'S NOT A HUGE FORECAST IMPLICATION BECAUSE COUNCILS VOLUNTARILY BEEN PROVIDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO COERCE ALREADY.

AND SO THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT IS NOT GOING TO BE AS STEEP AS IT WAS FOR POLICE, BUT WE DO HAVE THAT BAKED INTO OUR COURT.

SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL, UM, BELIEVES THAT THIS EXTRA REVENUE SHOULD, UM, BE DEPLOYED TO INVEST IN OUR EMS SYSTEM AND ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE AN INCENTIVE PAY STRUCTURE OR OTHER MECHANISMS, UM, WHETHER WITHIN THE CONTRACT OR BEYOND THAT ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY.

UM, SO I HAVE SEVERAL AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ALMOST READY TO BE POSTED THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

UM, AND THEN I WANT TO COME BACK TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUCKET IDEA, CAUSE I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF, I HAVE A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT.

UM, SO I'VE MENTIONED THAT I'M GOING TO BE PUTTING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT, UM, TO IMPLEMENT THE FINANCIAL PORTION OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PERF THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN QUANTIFY AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S THE POLICE, UM, ECONOMIC RESEARCH FORUM, THE COMPREHENSIVE SEXUAL ASSAULT EVALUATION.

YOU GOT A MEMO, UM, LAST WEEK DETAILING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF TO GET, YOU KNOW, WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND TOGETHER WITH THAT, THERE WAS A GRANT FROM THE SEXUAL ASSAULT KIT, UM, GRANT THAT IS NOT CONTINUING, UM, THAT WOULD BE FUNDING, ADDITIONAL POSITIONS, UM, LIKELY WITH SAFE, BUT THE AMENDMENT WILL SAY LOCAL NONPROFIT, UM, THAT WOULD BE PUT INTO APH TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THOSE SERVICES, UM, TO, TO OUR SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS. UM, AND, UM, ONE OR MORE OF YOU HAVE COME UP TO ME ABOUT CO-SPONSORING, BUT IF OTHER FOLKS WANT TO CO-SPONSOR THAT, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

UM, WE ARE PUTTING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT RELATED TO OUR RESPONSE TO HATE, UH, FOLLOWING UP OUR RESOLUTION IN NOVEMBER, UH, FOR A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.

UM, AND AGAIN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO TALK WITH ME ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THEN A THIRD ONE THAT WE HAVE IS A BUDGET RIDER, UH, FOR EMS. I THINK MANY OF US ON THE STYLUS, IF NOT ALL OF US, UM, ARE CONCERNED THAT WE NEED TO BE PROVIDING GREATER RENUMERATION TO OUR EMS PROFESSIONALS, BOTH SWORN AND UNSWORN.

UM, AND WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES GIVEN SOME PROCESSES THAT WE SET IN MOTION LAST BUDGET, NAMELY, WITH RESPECT TO THE BILLING AND THE REVENUE SYSTEM.

SO THIS RIDER, FIRST OF ALL, SAYS TO CONTINUE THE WORK WITH THE BILLING AND REVENUE SYSTEM, UM, AND TO CREATE REPORTING MECHANISMS SO THAT WE WILL BASICALLY BY MONTH, EVERY MONTH, EVERY OTHER MONTH, GET REPORTS ON THAT, UM, TO AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.

IT, SECONDLY

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UM, AND THEN THIRDLY ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK, UM, IN JANUARY AND RECOMMEND WHETHER WE SHOULD BE INCREASING OUR EMS FEES, WHICH WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO BASED ON THE COST OF SERVICE STUDY, DOESN'T SAY TO DO IT, IT JUST SAYS, COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

UM, AND WE HAVE BEEN VETTING THIS WITH CHIEF LA CRIPS AND WITH, UM, OUR LABOR NEGOTIATOR AND THEY ARE BOTH FINE WITH IT.

UM, AND THEN WE MAY HAVE A FOURTH ONE RELATED TO THE OFFICE OF CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON WHETHER THE MONEY TO ACTUALLY DO THE BILLING SYSTEM FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS SAVING LIVES.

AND, AND I WILL JUST POINT OUT THAT WE HAD A PARAMEDIC PRACTITIONER WHO HELPED, UM, OUR LIFEGUARDS AT RAMSEY SAVE A 30 YEAR OLD, WHO DROWNED, WHO WAS DROWNING IN THE POOL.

UM, AND THE PARAMEDIC PRACTITIONERS WERE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR SAVING THAT PERSON'S LIFE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME MORE ADVANCED CARE ON SCENE.

UM, SO THE QUESTION THERE IS, IS THE BILLING SYSTEM, AND WE ARE WAITING TO GET CLARITY IF THAT IS ALREADY, UM, TAKEN CARE OF IN THE BUDGET.

UM, AND I'M STILL WORKING OUT MY THOUGHTS ON THE FIRE EMS STATIONS, BUT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE CARE OF IN A BUCKET THAT WE SORT OF SAID, THIS IS A BUCKET, A BUCKET FOR PUBLIC SAFETY STAFFING NEEDS, WHICH MIGHT ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.

IT MIGHT INCLUDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, UM, WITH RESPECT TO HOW WE, UM, INCREASE THE SALARIES OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONALS.

I WILL JUST REMIND US THAT, UM, SOMETHING LIKE 70% OF OUR GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES ARE IN PUBLIC SAFETY.

THEY'RE NOT COVERED BY THE INCREASES IN THE WAGES, UM, THE ONES WHO ARE SWORN, AND I MAY HAVE THAT PERCENTAGE OFF CAUSE THERE'S NON-SWORN TOO, BUT IT'S, IT'S A REALLY HIGH PERCENTAGE THAT ARE SWORN THAT ARE NOT COVERED WITH THESE WAGE INCREASES.

UM, AND THEY'RE DEALING WITH INFLATION AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

AND SO WE NEED TO FIND, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR WHAT WE NEED FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

WE ARE, UM, ARBITRATION WITH THE FIRE, UM, UNION, ET CETERA, AND WE NEED TO PRUDENTLY PLAN, UM, SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING TO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROFESSIONALS AS WELL.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT A DAYLIGHT, ANY OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY STUFF WE HAVEN'T ALREADY DISCUSSED AS A MEMBER KITCHEN AND COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY? UM, I THINK, WELL, ONE OF THESE, I, I, UH, I THINK I HIGHLIGHTED YESTERDAY OR TUESDAY AND THAT WAS THE NINE ONE ONE CALL TAKERS.

UM, AND, UH, WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, UM, PART OF APD, BUT THEY'RE CIVILIAN AND IT'S ACTUALLY IT'S DIRECTION, NOT A REVENUE IMPACT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE, UH, I AM SUPPORTING THE LIVING WAGE, UM, UH, RAISED TO $20 AN HOUR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER QUINTUS IS BRINGING.

SO THAT ALLOWS ME TO BRING DIRECTION ON THE CALL-TAKERS THAT JUST RELATES TO YOU, UM, CONTINUING TO, UH, TO PROVIDE US AN UPDATE, UM, ON OUR PROGRESS IN ADDRESSING THE, UM, THE VACANCY RATE, THE VACANCY RATE FOR OUR CALL TAKERS AND DISPATCHERS CALL-TAKERS IS ABOUT 41%.

THEY CAN SEE RATE NOT, NOT CERTAIN WHAT THE VACANCY RATE IS FOR THE DISPATCHERS, BUT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER IS RESULTING IN A PROLONGED RESPONSE TIME THROUGH NINE 11.

SO THERE'S THAT THE SECOND THING IS ONE THAT I HOSTED TODAY THAT I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, AND THAT IS A, UM, THAT IS A PILOT RELATED TO PERSONAL ATTENDANCE, UM, AND IS DESIGNED TO ADDRESS, UM, TO ADDRESS, UM, THE RESPONSE THAT OUR EMS, UH, PROFESSIONALS AND OUR FIRE PROFESSIONALS, UM, OFTEN HAVE TO, UM, ENGAGE IN BECAUSE THERE'S A, A TREMENDOUS SHORTAGE OF, UM, A TREMENDOUS SHORTAGE OF PERSONAL ATTENDANCE IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE HAVE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, WILL, UH, OFTEN NEED ASSISTANCE WITH JUST SIMPLE THINGS LIKE GETTING IN AND OUT OF A WHEELCHAIR, GETTING IN AND OUT OF BED, DRESSING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEY END UP WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE TO THEM, UH, CALLING EMS OR CALLING, UM, CALLING FIRE.

SO THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT WAS PROPOSED TO US BY EIGHT APP, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KELLY AND I ARE WORKING WITH, UM, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, AND EMS, UM, AS WELL AS AID APP.

AND, UM, FIRST OF ALL, ATTENDANCE COALITION AND OTHER OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO, UM, PROPOSE

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A, UM, A PILOT PROGRAM.

UH, WE, I HAVE POSTED THE, UM, THE, UM, THE RIDER ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, UH, TODAY.

SO THAT IS ONE TIME FUNDING.

UM, IT'S BEING PUT FORWARD AS A PILOT FOR ONE-TIME FUNDING, UH, THAT WE CAN THEN DETERMINE THE, UM, THE EFFECTIVE EFFECTIVENESS OF IT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE, UH, PERSPECTIVE.

IT'S REALLY IN THE NATURE OF, UH, OF A PREVENTION ACTIVITY.

IT'S A SHIFT, UM, AS WE'VE DONE WITH OTHER PROGRAMS, SO THAT WE'RE REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT KIND OF SERVICES, UM, WILL ACTUALLY PREVENT DIFFICULTIES AND REDUCE THE, UH, THE LEVEL OF EMERGENCY RESPONSE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO ENGAGE IN.

SO I INVITE FOLKS TO LOOK AT THAT.

IT'S, UM, IT'S ON THE MESSAGE BOARD.

THANK YOU, KELLY.

SO I'M ONE OF THE BUDGET WRITERS THAT I WAS BRINGING FORWARD IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT I BROUGHT LAST YEAR.

COLLEAGUES, YOU MAY REMEMBER THE MODIFIED CADET ACADEMY RIDER THAT I BROUGHT FORWARD, WHICH WAS, UM, TO ONLY ALLOW FOR THAT MODIFIED ACADEMY OF FUNDING WAS ALREADY AVAILABLE IN APDS BUDGET.

UM, IT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING TO ME THAT THERE ARE 270 APD OPERATIONAL VACANCIES AND 132 PATROL OFFICER VACANCIES.

SO, UM, THIS WOULD HELP WITH THAT APD, UM, LAST YEAR CHANGED THE MODIFIED TERMINOLOGY TO THE TRANSITIONAL OFFICER PROGRAM.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DID COMMENCE WITH EIGHT OFFICERS FROM DEPARTMENTS WHERE THEY ALREADY HAD THE BASIC PEACE OFFICER CERTIFICATIONS.

THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT NOW.

SO I WANTED TO DAYLIGHT THAT AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, THANK YOU FOR INVOLVING ME IN YOUR PERSONAL ATTENDANCE.

UM, WRITER.

IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO ME HAVING COME FROM BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL.

I'VE WORKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UM, PERSONAL CARE AGENCIES WHERE I WAS A CLIENT CARE COORDINATOR, AND I WOULD GO OUT AND DO ASSESSMENTS ON INDIVIDUALS WHO NEEDED HELP IN HOME WITH THEIR CARE.

AND, UM, I HAD THE ON-CALL PHONE IS ONE OF MY RESPONSIBILITIES AND CAREGIVERS WILL CALL OUT LAST MINUTE BECAUSE THEY WORK FOR MULTIPLE AGENCIES BECAUSE THEY'RE GIVEN MORE AS AN HOURLY RATE TO GO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE, WHICH REALLY PUTS A FAMILY IN A DISADVANTAGE.

IF THEY'RE EXPECTED TO GO TO WORK OR THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR KIDS.

AND THE ONE THING THAT I USED TO TELL FAMILIES IS THAT YOU CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PERSON THAT YOU LOVE, WHO NEEDS THAT HELP AND ASSISTANCE, UM, THAT THAT'S REALLY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT YOU CAN TYPICALLY GIVE, UNLESS YOU HELP YOURSELF.

AND SO THIS REALLY FILLS A CRITICAL GAP IN NEED.

I'M SO THANKFUL THAT YOU INVITED ME TO HELP CO-SPONSOR THAT, AND THEN MAYOR PRO TEM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED FOCUS ON EMS BILLING.

I'VE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT IT OVER LAST YEAR AND A HALF.

I'VE BEEN SITTING UP HERE WITH YOU, AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'VE TAKEN THAT REALLY TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE CITY.

WE ARE LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO THANK YOU THIS, YES, I DO HAVE ANOTHER, IN ADDITION TO THE GOODNIGHT RANCH, UM, BUDGET AMENDMENT, I HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH IS FOCUSED ON PARAMEDICS AT THE AIRPORT.

UH, CURRENTLY THE AIRPORT DOES PAY FIRE TO HAVE, UM, FIRE ON HAND.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS INCREASE OUR PARAMEDIC SUPPORT AT THE AIRPORT FROM THE AVIATION ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET.

UM, AND THAT WOULD ADD ABOUT THREE PARAMEDICS.

AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT ADDING A DEDICATED ROOM AT THE AIRPORT, UH, FOR PATIENTS WITH MEDICAL EMERGENCIES.

I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY AS WE EXPAND OUR AIRPORT AND WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE, UH, PASSENGER ACTIVITY.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER AMENDMENT THAT I PLAN TO BRING FORWARD.

OKAY, THANK YOU, CASPER POOL.

I WANTED TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THAT AMENDMENT, UM, FOR EMS TO BE CITED OUT AT THE AIRPORT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COUNCILMEMBER POINT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS CURRENTLY IF OUR MEDICS, UH, NEED TO GO INTO THE AIRPORT IN ORDER TO, UM, ADDRESS AN EMERGENCY, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SECURITY SCREENING AND THAT SIMPLY DELAYS THEIR BEING ABLE TO GET TO THE SCENE WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED.

SO WE ABSOLUTELY, I'M GLAD THAT THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AND HOUSING THEM ON THE SITE, MUCH LIKE FIRE, UM, ALREADY IS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

WE DO A LOT OF CO-LOCATION BETWEEN EMS AND FIRE.

SO I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, OF THAT.

SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OTHERS, UM, WE DON'T HAVE CODE INSPECTED.

ANY OTHER PUBLICATIONS HE THINKS THE DAYLIGHT COMES? REMEMBER TOVO UM, YES.

I'VE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT AUSTIN CODE AND I'M STILL WORKING THROUGH THOSE ANSWERS.

SO I'M NOT SURE YET WHETHER I'LL HAVE ANYTHING TO PROPOSE IN PARTICULAR WITH REGARD TO THEIR REQUESTED, UM, ADDITIONAL 13 FTES.

WE HAD KIND OF A VIGOROUS CONVERSATION AROUND IT LAST YEAR, AND WHETHER THERE WAS A NEED THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE POSITIONS RATHER THAN INSPECTOR POSITIONS, BUT I THINK WE STILL HAVE NOT SOLVED.

WE REALLY STILL HAVEN'T SOLVED FOR THE FACT THAT IN THE PROGRAMS WHERE WE NEED EVENING HOURS, LIKE

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THIS SCHEDULE FOR CODE INSPECTORS IS NOT MATCHING UP.

AND SO THAT, THAT CONTINUES TO BE A NEED.

AND I REALLY, UM, ALSO HAVE AN INTEREST IN SEEING SOME STRONGER, STRONGER PENALTIES AND STRONGER ACTIONS, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE REPEAT OFFENDER PROGRAM.

AND, AND THOSE ARE JUST CHANGES WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR FOR A LONG TIME THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN.

SO JUST, JUST NOTING, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT THAT ACTION MIGHT BE.

THAT'S JUST NOT WORK I'VE COMPLETED YET THOUGH WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT.

BUT, UH, JUST, I JUST WANT TO NOTIFY MY COLLEAGUES THAT THAT'S, THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M THINKING, AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE DONE BY TOMORROW.

AND THEN, AND THEN I, I, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER RENTERIA HAS SOMETHING ON THAT POINT AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO YIELD FOR THE MOMENT IF HE WANTS TO COMMENT ON THAT.

THANK YOU, MARY.

YES, I, I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT POINT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN MY DISTRICT, UH, UH, WITH, UH, STR UH, RESIDENTS HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA, WHICH IS A VERY CONCERNING THING TO ME.

IT'S, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX CAN NOW USE SHORT TERM UP TO 25% OF THEIR UNITS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

AND, BUT THE BIGGEST, UH, FOLLOWING UP ON ALL THOSE COMPLAINTS, WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT IF THE REPEATERS, THE ONES THAT ARE CONSTANTLY REPEATING AND, AND, UH, GETTING COMPLAINTS, UH, IT'S A LONG PROCESS TO TAKE THEM THROUGH COURT.

AND IT'S, UH, UH, AND THEY JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL TO DEAL WITH THE CASE LOAD THAT'S, UM, THAT THEY HAVE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ALSO SUPPORTING THE INCREASE IN ADMINISTRATIVE ROLE, IF THEY ARE GONNA USE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY FEELING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THESE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE REPEATING VIOLATE THEY'RE REPEATEDLY VIOLATING THEIR, THE CODE, AND THEY ASSUME THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, GET A CITATION.

THEY CAN EITHER APPEAL IT, GO THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM, WHICH TAKES A LONG TIME, OR I L S YOU KNOW, THEY CAN JUST PAY THE FINE, BECAUSE THE FINE IS SO LOW THAT IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE MAKING OFF OF THESE, UH, UNITS, UH, SOMETIMES GO ARE MORE THAN $100,000 A YEAR.

SO I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, GET OUT THERE AND, AND PUT A STOP TO THE VIOLATIONS.

AND IF IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE MORE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSONNEL TO DO THE PAPERWORK, TO FILE THESE COMPLAINTS TO COURT, THEN I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING.

I CITED IN THAT RESOLUTION, THE EXAMPLE OF BARCELONA, WHICH WAS ABLE TO WITHIN ONE YEAR, UH, TO USE EXISTING RESOURCE, EXISTING FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY GROUPS TO, TO GET RESILIENCE HUBS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF EVERY, EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN THEIR CITY.

AND THAT, AND THAT, AND AGAIN, I HAVE ASKED AND GOTTEN SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM AUSTIN CODE.

AND SO I MAY, I MAY AGREE WITH YOU COUNCIL MEMBER VENTRIO WHEN I'VE REALLY WORKED THROUGH THAT INFORMATION, BUT, BUT WHAT I, WHAT I REMEMBER, AND, AND I HAVE THE TRANSCRIPTS IN MY BIG STACK IN FRONT OF ME, I JUST HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM YET.

YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL IN TURNING DOWN THEIR REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF LAST YEAR, ASKED THEM TO COME FORWARD WITH A PLAN FOR IMPROVING IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

AND I DO NOT BELIEVE WE EVER RECEIVED THAT PLAN.

AND SO I'M SUPER RELUCTANT TO, UH, JUST PASS ON ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, JUST APPROVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WITHOUT HAVING SOME SENSE OF HOW THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE FIXED.

I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS 20, 20 15 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING AS, AS THIS COUNCIL FOR THE NEED FOR BETTER ENFORCEMENT OF SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

AND WE JUST ARE, I, YOU KNOW, I, I'M ANSWERING, I'M ANSWERING THE SAME KIND OF EMAILS NOW THAT I WAS IN.

AND IT'S JUST, I CAN'T, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY.

SO I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, BUT WE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME OTHER MAJOR ISSUES THAT, UM, I, I AM NOT CLEAR ON WHY WE, CAN'T, WHY WE CAN'T BETTER ENFORCE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE HAVE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNERS THAT DO NOT HAVE A PERMIT WHO CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE THEIR PROPERTIES, WHY WE, WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO CONTINUE ON, LIKE, WHY ARE WE AS A MUNICIPALITY NOT ABLE TO SHUT THEM DOWN? I JUST, I JUST SIMPLY CAN'T, I CAN'T ASK FOR THAT.

SO AT A MINIMUM, A MINIMUM, UM, WHAT I HOPE TO HAVE TIME TO DO IS PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF BUDGET DIRECTION OR MAKE SOME OF THIS, SOME OF THESE POTENTIAL POSITIONS CONTINGENT ON REALLY GETTING SOME CONCRETE PLANS TO FIX THOSE ISSUES.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING THE OTHER RELATED TO THIS AREA IS THAT I HAVE AN AMENDMENT ON COMING FORWARD ON RESILIENCE, HUB TOOLKIT.

UH, THIS IS NOTED ON OUR, WE PASS THIS ON OUR COUNCIL AGENDA RESOLUTION TO INCLUDE MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO DO THAT WORK SO THAT WE'RE REALLY LEVERAGING, WE'RE LEVERAGING THE FORCE OF THE COMMUNITY TO GET THOSE RESILIENCE HUBS THROUGHOUT OUR, OUR CITY.

AND

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AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ABILITY WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS GREAT WORK ON CREATING RESILIENCE HUBS.

UM, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, WE ARE EMPOWERING COMMUNITIES TO SET UP THOSE RESILIENCE HUBS AND OTHER AREAS.

OUR FIRST RESILIENCE HUBS ARE PRIMARILY GOING TO BE IN THE, OR ARE EXCLUSIVELY GOING TO BE IN THE EASTERN CRESCENT.

AND WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE RESILIENCE, HUBS AND OTHER PLACES.

AND WE KNOW WE HAVE HAVE COMMUNITIES IN THE SOUTHEAST AND IN OTHER PLACES THAT ARE, ARE REALLY, UM, DOING GOOD WORK WITH REGARD TO RESILIENCE WORK ANYWAY, BUT HAVING THAT TOOLKIT IN PLACE THAT, THAT COMMUNITY THAT CAN GUIDE THOSE COMMUNITY GROUPS, I THINK IS GOING TO BE ESSENTIAL IN OUR LIST OF UNMET NEEDS.

IT WAS NOTED AS UNDER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I THINK WE CLARIFIED MEANT THERE'S NO MONEY ALLOCATED IN THE BUDGET SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT NEED.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE.

AND SO WE'VE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS, UH, BUT I, I DO INTEND TO BRING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT FOR SOME LEVEL OF FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME FUNDING TO GET THAT DONE THIS NEXT YEAR.

AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S IT IN THIS AREA.

ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS AREA BEFORE WE GO TO OTHER AREAS? AND LET ME JUST SAY, SINCE I HAVEN'T, SINCE I HAVEN'T SOLICITED SUPPORT ON EITHER OF THOSE ITEMS, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RESILIENCE HUBS, WHICH I'VE GIVEN YOU SOME SENSE OF WHAT THAT'LL LOOK LIKE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO BE ON THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

SO LET'S OPEN IT UP BEYOND PUBLIC SAFETY RIGHT NOW.

UH, QUESTIONS FOR, UM, UH, CARRIE AND ED, FINANCE STAFF, OTHER PEOPLE, BUT ALSO TO DLA OTHER, UM, UH, AMENDMENTS OR, UM, UM, DIRECTION MAYOR.

JUST ASK, IS IT OKAY IF OUR FIRE CHIEF AND CHIEF OF STAFF ARE FREE TO GO OR DO WE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK AT THIS POINT THEY'RE FREE TO GO AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HANGING WITH US THIS LONG.

THANK YOU FOR NOTICING THAT.

COLLEAGUES, UH, WARREN'S.

I, I THINK I HAVE, UH, UM, I I'M JOINED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO COMES FROM HER KITCHEN AND OTHERS THAT WANT TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE FUND THE ADC.

UM, AND, AND I WANT TO BE A PART OF THE EFFORT TO DO THAT.

IF THERE'S GENERAL FUND MONIES, WE CAN FIND THAT'D BE GREAT.

IF WE COULD FIND ALTERNATIVE MONEY, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UH, I CONTINUE TO EXPLORE AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE TERRORS IN THE AREA TO FUND IT.

I'LL BE MEETING WITH, UH, STAFF AND TRIED TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, BUT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT THAT WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO, TO FIND THEM ADMINISTRATIVELY, UH, UH, AT LEAST GOING FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR, HOPEFULLY THEREAFTER.

UH, AS I HAD INDICATED EARLIER, I'M GOING TO BRING BACK SOMETHING, UM, I'M WORKING WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER POOL ON A COUNCIL, UM, UH, COMPENSATION AND RETIREMENT COMPENSATION.

SO AS TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH THE WAGE INCREASES FOR OUR STAFF, THAT THERE IS MAINTAINED, UH, UH, COMPRESSION THAT WE KNOW WOULD EXIST, UH, BETWEEN, UH, THE HIGHEST PAID STAFFERS AND A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THEMSELVES, AND ALSO RETIREMENT, UH, AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT RETIREMENT'S OFFERED TO, UH, OTHER, UH, UH, CITY EMPLOYEES STILL WORKING ON EFFECTIVE DATE OF THAT.

SO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY THOUGHTS AND WANTS TO REACH OUT TO ME, OR AS OUR POOL ON THAT, THAT'D BE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO B WHERE QUORUM NUMBERS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, UH, THE QUESTION THAT WOULD BE RAISED WITH, UH, UH, UH, DIRECTOR GRAY, FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET THE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FOR ECHO, THAT'S DOING A LOT OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK.

SO WE MAKE SURE THAT AS WE EXPAND THE CAPACITY, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING IT IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO, TO WORK FOR US.

UH, PROBABLY BRING OUR RIDER WITH REFERENCE TO A TERM POLICY.

WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN A TERRORS WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY PAID OUT EVERYTHING THAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO, DOES THE TURKISH DOES GO AWAY, UM, UH, DOES IT IDENTIFY NEW OR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, JUST HAVING A GENERAL POLICY THAT SAID ABSENT OTHER COUNCIL ACTION, OTHERWISE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD BE SPENT ON THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES OF HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING THAT IMPACTED THAT TERS A DISTRICT THAT IS A KIND OF A DEFAULT SCENARIO.

UH, IF, UH, THERE'S ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.

UH, I ALSO AM TOYING WITH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I ALWAYS RAISE AT BUDGET TIME.

AND I'M ALWAYS TOLD THAT IT'S TOO LATE TO DO IT BUDGET TIME.

I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT EARLIER.

LIKE WE'VE ALL RUN INTO THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE

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FOR US TO HAVE OUR STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT A ONE PAGER THAT WOULD GO IN UTILITY BILLS, UH, THAT WOULD EXPLAIN, UH, AND PROVIDE CONTEXT FOR WHATEVER ACTION COUNCIL TOOK WITH RESPECT TO THE BUDGET, BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT, UH, INCREASES OR DECREASES WERE THE CITY COMPONENT OF THAT BUDGET.

ALSO TO POINT OUT THINGS LIKE, UH, IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A CAR, UH, THEY CAN AVOID PAYING THE TOUGH, UH, BUT TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO, UH, UH, RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT, UH, WAYS THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THINGS TO HELP SAVE THEMSELVES ON FEES AND EXPENSES.

WE HAVEN'T ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THAT NOW AND WISH WE WERE SENDING OUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE COMBINED TECH NOTICE TAX NOTICE THAT GOES OUT FROM, UH, THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

CAUSE I THINK THERE'S JUST SO MUCH MORE INFORMATION THAT, UH, OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD GET.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE ORDERING IT, BUT ASKING FOR STAFF TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL EARLY ENOUGH NEXT YEAR, SO THAT THAT COUNCIL CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT TO, UH, WANT TO DO.

UM, AND THEN, UM, I, I NEED TO TAKE A LOOK, UH, AND CONSIDERING THE, THE, THE CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS, WHICH I THINK IS A, IS A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.

WE HAD SET IT UP AS A PILOT, UH, AS WE OFTEN SET UP PILOTS WITH ONE TIME FUNDING, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THE ANALYSIS.

I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

I WAS JUST, WE, WE DO GO AHEAD AND FUND IT AGAIN, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ANALYSIS OF THE PILOT TO SEE IF THAT'S THE BEST USE OF THOSE FUNDS, WHETHER THERE ARE COMPETING USES OR WAYS WE CAN MAKE THE PROGRAM BETTER.

AND I WOULD LIKE IT TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT TO HIRE PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO ACTUALLY HELP WITH CLEANUP AND, UH, ENCAMPMENT, UH, WORK.

SO I'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT, UM, AT THAT, UH, AT THAT ISSUE.

MARY, I'M SORRY.

I'M, I'M ALSO WORKING ON AN EDC, UM, AS I MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY AMENDMENT, BUT I MISSED WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON.

AND, AND I KNEW THAT YOU WERE, I ASSUME THAT AT SOME POINT WE'LL, WE'LL MERGE THESE THINGS AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO STEP BACK IN LINE.

I MEAN, WHAT I SAID IS WE, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND IT.

AND I SAID, MAYBE GENERAL FUND, IF THERE ARE OTHER FUNDS WE COULD FIND TO DO THAT.

BUT AS A LAST RESORT, IF THERE'S NO OTHER FUNDS, I'M TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, THE TERS, UH, FUNDING, BUT I'LL BE MEETING WITH STAFF TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S, UM, DOABLE OR NOT.

AND JUST, IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL JUST SAY, UM, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND, AND I'M AWAITING SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I WOULD SHARE, UM, AT THE MOMENT I THINK SALES TAX, THE SALES TAX PROJECTION IS PROBABLY OUR BEST OPTION FOR THIS YEAR.

AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING TOO, AS A POSSIBLE, AT THIS POINT.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF, OF THE AMOUNT? AND I KNOW WHAT THEY'VE SAID THEY NEED, I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE ASKED THAT.

I MEAN, THEY'VE SAID WHAT THEY NEEDED ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

I'VE ASKED HIM TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT NUMBER BECAUSE THE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO GET MORE DEFINED AND WE WOULD JUST REALLY WANT TO GET THEM STARTED.

UH, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT NUMBER, BUT, UH, I THINK YOU'RE, UH, MY SUB CORE I'M ON THIS.

SO IT'S BOTH OF US CONTINUED TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, YEAH, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

CAUSE I HAD A NUMBER, BUT IT WAS LESS THAN WHAT THEY REQUESTED AND, AND I'M NOT SURE KIND OF WHAT IT ENABLES THEM TO.

SO LET'S JUST MERGE OUR, OUR EFFORTS.

MY SENSE, THERE WAS A NUMBER LESS THAN WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING IF WE WERE TAKING A LOOK AT IT ON A SHORTER TERM PERSPECTIVE.

AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, I'LL JUST MENTION, UM, AS I'VE SAID, A COUPLE OF TIMES ON THIS DIOCESE, I'M BRINGING FORWARD A RESOLUTION, HOPEFULLY ON THE NEXT AGENDA THAT IS SOMEWHAT RELATED, UH, AND TALKS ABOUT REAL ESTATE, HOW WE HANDLE REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS.

AND I KNOW A FEW OF YOU, UM, ARE, HAVE INDICATED THAT YOU WANT TO WORK ON THIS.

AND AMONG THAT AMONG THE RECOMMENDATIONS I'M GOING TO MAKE ARE SOME RELATED TO THE TRANSFER OF SOME CITY PROPERTIES TO THE EDC.

SO THAT MAY BE A BUDGET DIRECTION I BRING FORWARD, OR IT MAY JUST BE PART OF THAT RESOLUTION THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD.

BUT I THINK IT RELATES TO KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT MAKING SURE YOU KNOW, WHAT THE EFFORT THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING MAYOR OR THAT YOU'VE UNDERTAKEN, THAT I KNOW MANY OF US ON THIS DAYA SHARE, WHICH IS TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION HAS, HAS THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND IS ABLE TO PERFORM THE SCOPE THAT WE'VE SET FOR THEM, UM, WHICH IS TO, TO REALLY MANAGE AND TO DEVELOP OUR, OUR CITY OWNED REAL ESTATE ASSETS IN ADDITION TO, TO, UH, BEING INVOLVED IN, IN OTHER TRANSACTIONS, OUT IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY.

FURTHER STUFF.

UM, JUST CLARIFY, ONE THING YOU SAID, I DIDN'T HEAR IT.

SO LET'S DO THIS AS, AS PEOPLE HEAR WHAT YOU SAID ON THE HOMEWORK, LET'S DO THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.

AS PEOPLE LAY OUT, WHEN THEY'RE DONE LAYING OUT, THEN WE'LL HAVE A BRIEF MOMENT FOR EVERYONE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY DID.

THEN WE'LL GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO LAY OUT THEIRS, AND THEN WE'LL ASK INVITE QUESTIONS FROM WHAT THEY DID.

SO QUESTIONS FOR ME ON WHAT I LAID UP, MAYOR PRO TEM THEN COUNTS MY POOL.

IN THEIR, UM, UM, WORK PLAN OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING ON, WHETHER WE SHOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT ASSISTANCE WITH RESPECT TO, UH, ENCAMPMENT RESPONSE AND WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT, UH, ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE HIRING, UH, AN ADDITIONAL COHORT OF PEOPLE BEING, UH, WERE PARTICIPATING OR SUPPORTING, HIRING PEOPLE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS MAYOR.

I DIDN'T HEAR THE PART ABOUT REDIRECTING FUNDS FOR HOMELESSNESS AND IN TERMS OF, UH, UH, THE, THE CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS I WAS LOOKING AT WHETHER

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UM, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED WITH US IN STORY MAP ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES THAT THEY HAD WHEN THEY WERE WORKING IN THE PARKS CREWS, WHERE THEY ARE DOING THIS.

UM, AND I THINK IT'S REALLY RELEVANT TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE KIND OF TRAINING AND THE, AND THE GROUPS, UM, AND THEIR, THEIR, UM, THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH THAT.

UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT I WOULD ADD THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE HAVE A STUDY THAT, UM, JUST CAME OUT FROM UT ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE HAPPENING FOR GREEN JOB PATHWAYS.

UM, AND WHILE THERE IS A CONSERVATION ELEMENT OF CLEANING UP ENCAMPMENTS, IT'S NOT EXACTLY SETTING THEM UP FOR A FUTURE JOB, UM, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

THE WAY THAT IT'S, UM, TRANSITIONING FROM THE PANDEMIC IS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE JOBS THAT ARE IN THE EQUITY PLAN, UM, THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR CLIMATE GOALS.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT WORK IS NOT IMPORTANT, BUT IT IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE THE TRAINING AND THE DEVELOPMENT, ET CETERA, UM, IS REALLY AT THE LEVEL FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

AND I THINK THAT, UM, HAVING TALKED WITH THE PARTICIPANTS ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES IN THE PARKS, UM, AND, AND, AND WHATNOT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE GROUP, UM, TO BE DEPLOYING IN THAT PARTICULAR WAY.

AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER, UM, WORK FOR THEM TO BE DONE.

AND WE HAVE SET THE GROUNDWORK, BUT THE STUDY FROM UT MEASURE DID A STUDY.

AND I THINK THERE WAS ONE OTHER STUDY, UM, THAT REALLY LAID OUT A WHOLE TYPE OF FRAMEWORKS AND PARAMETERS SO THAT THIS CAN BE DONE EQUITABLY AND SETS PEOPLE UP FOR SUCCESS.

UM, AND I'M NOT SURE ADDING, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR THAT.

WHEN WE HAVE A PROGRAM, UM, WITH TWO THAT'S ALREADY DOING THAT WORK AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE TRAINED AND ABLE TO DO THAT, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT WOULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE WORK DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT APPLIES TO THAT PROGRAM.

UM, WRIT LARGE.

KITCHEN, MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME.

AND, AND, AND I WANT TO LEARN MORE.

SO IF YOU HAVE TODAY'S, THAT IS THAT I SHOULD SEE, PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME OR POST THEM ON THE BOARD SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE HIM.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

I KNOW THAT I WAS ANTICIPATING, IT JUST CAME OUT TODAY.

SO LIKE, I FORGIVE YOU FOR, LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S LIKE TOTALLY THE UT REPORT.

LIKE WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM TO GET IT OUT SOONER.

THE STORY MAP THING, WE CAN PROBABLY GET YOU A LINK TO THAT.

WE HAD A RECEPTION HERE AT CITY HALL.

IT WAS FULL ALL THE WAY GOING UP THERE WITH PEOPLE WHO HAD EITHER PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM OR WERE INVOLVED IN DOING THE STORY MAPPING, UM, AND LOTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS, UM, HERE CELEBRATING THE WORK OF THE CONSERVATION CORPS.

BUT IT WAS ALSO A REALLY FRANK CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW DO WE MAKE THIS TRAINING EQUITABLE AND WHAT'S INVOLVED AND, AND THEIR EXPERIENCES WORKING, UM, IN THOSE PARKS WHERE THEY WERE DOING CLEANUPS WAS A BIG PART OF WHAT THEY WERE.

AND SO I'D BE REALLY HESITANT TO ADD, PLEASE.

AND TO BE CLEAR, I WASN'T CHALLENGING THE WORK THAT WAS DONE BY THE INITIATIVE, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S REALLY GOOD.

I'M TRYING TO LEARN TO CATCH UP.

I KNOW THAT I WAS ANTICIPATING THAT SAYS A PILOT AND THEN SOME KIND OF REVIEW OR STUDY FROM STAFF THAT WOULD COME BACK AND TALK TO US ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED AND WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THEM.

AND WHAT'S BEEN IN THEIR PATHWAYS.

WE'VE GOTTEN KIND OF A QUALITATIVE ASSESSMENT GENERALLY OF THE WORK THAT'S DONE.

AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS DIFFERENT FROM THAT.

THERE WAS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION IN APRIL OF 1991 THAT CONTAINED SOME OF THOSE OBJECTIVE NUMBERS, A B GRADES.

THEN I'VE ASKED MY STAFF TO TRY AND SEE IF THERE'S LIKE AN UPDATE TO THOSE NUMBERS SO WE CAN SEE THAT.

UM, SO, SO PART OF IT WAS NOT SAYING THAT THE WORK THEY'RE DOING ISN'T GOOD WORK CAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GREAT WORK.

PART OF IT IS JUST LEARNING A LOT MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN PART OF IT IS SAYING, UH, WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, A CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS IN THE CONTEXT OF HIRING PEOPLE THAT, THAT, THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

AND WE CERTAINLY KNOW WE HAVE A NEED, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT HERE THIS MORNING ON THE DAY AS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A REALLY HIGH CONCERN FOR LOTS OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S A HIGH VISIBILITY ISSUE.

SO I'M TRYING TO LEARN AS MUCH AS THEY CAN SEND ME AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN.

WE'VE ASKED STAFF TO GIVE US, UH, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, AND THEN, UH, I'LL COME BACK AND, AND, AND REPORT.

BUT I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT TOO.

I DON'T HAVE A QUORUM ON THIS ISSUE.

COUNCIL MEMBER,

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UH, YEAH.

SO, UM, I THINK, UH, I I'D BE INTERESTED TOO, IN, IN THE, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO THE CIVILIAN CONSERVATION CORPS.

I'M THINKING OF IT MORE FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE PROGRAM, BUT, UM, LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE AT WHERE AND HOW SOMEONE BECOMES INVOLVED IN THE PROGRAM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PROGRAM SHOULD BE OPEN TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, PEOPLE, PERHAPS WHO GOING THROUGH THE HEAL PROGRAM OR OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH OTHER PROGRAMS BECAUSE JOBS, STABILITY, AND THE ABILITY TO, TO, UH, UM, JOB STABILITY AND, AND ADVANCEMENT, WHICH I THINK IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS PROGRAM IS DESIGNED FOR, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, IS, IS, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE OPEN TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ALSO.

AND THEY'RE NOT ANY DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE IN TERMS OF THEIR ABILITY TO LEARN AND DEVELOP A CAREER.

SO, UM, IF THAT'S THE ASPECT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I APOLOGIZE.

I SAID, I WAS COMING TO YOU NEXT, AND THEN THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.

HOW'S THE MEMBER OF POOL.

I WANTED TO HOP ON YOUR REQUEST FOR STAFF TO PREPARE AN INSERT FOR THE UTILITY BILL THAT DESCRIBES WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE NOT DOING.

AND, AND, AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S REALLY SMART.

I THINK IT GETS IN FRONT OF IT, LETS US DESCRIBE AND EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND SO WE RETAIN THAT AUTHORITY, WHICH I THINK IS APPROPRIATE.

AND I ALSO WANT, JUST TO MENTION, I WAS LOOKING AT THE TRAVIS CAD SITE YESTERDAY FOR THEIR TAXPAYER TRANSPARENCY.

UM, THEY HAVE THIS NEW APPROACH TO PUTTING UP PROPERTY TAX VALUES AND IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW UP.

AND SO, AND, AND I HAD FIGURED THAT WHOLE SYSTEM OUT YEARS AND YEARS AGO, AND THEN I FOUND MYSELF YESTERDAY, TOTALLY FLUMMOXED BECAUSE INFORMATION I WAS LOOKING FOR WASN'T ON THERE.

UH, IT'S THERE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE, BUT I CAN'T FIND THE INDIVIDUAL TAXING RATES FOR EACH TAXING JURISDICTION.

AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ON THERE IN THE PAST, BUT NOW THEY'RE JUST TELLING YOU THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF TAXES THAT YOU OWE TO EACH TAXING ENTITY, AND THEY HAVE CHANGED ALL THAT INFORMATION GOING BACK.

I'M HOPING THAT I WAS LOOKING AT SOMETHING COMPLETELY IN INACCURATELY OR THAT IT'S ALL OPERATOR ERROR ON MY PART, BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE IF INDEED, THAT HAS CHANGED THAT SYSTEM, UM, AT THE CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT, THEN THERE WILL BE EVEN MORE QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING ABOUT HOW THEY ARE BEING THEIR PROPERTIES ARE VALUED AND THE TAX RATES THAT ARE BEING, UM, ATTACHED TO THEM AND ANYTHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AS YOU ARE SUGGESTING, I THINK WOULD BE A REAL BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY.

ALL GOOD POINTS.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT PERSON? I'LL JUST SAY ON THAT POINT THAT THERE IS A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION THAT COMES IN THOSE INSERTS FOR THE UTILITY BILLS.

THEY DO HAVE TO BE PRINTED QUITE A BIT EARLIER, SO THEY CAN'T DO IT LIKE IN THE REAL TIME WHEN YOU ALL ACT HERE.

SO IT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT, AND WE DO ACTUALLY ADVERTISE ABOUT THE TOUGH, IF YOU'RE 65 OR YOU DON'T HAVE CARS THAT COMES IN THAT INSERT ALREADY.

SO YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION THERE.

GOOD TO KNOW.

IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME, THEN WE'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE KIND OF LAY OUT THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE COUNCILMEMBER POINT THIS AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, AND THEN THE MAYOR PRO TEM.

BUT DOES NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ANY FUNDS TO IT, OR PERHAPS IDENTIFYING ALTERNATIVES, UH, FOR US IN ORDER TO GET THIS MONEY OUT SOONER, WE ARE SEEING ACTIVE DISPLACEMENT HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M BRINGING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO $20 PER HOUR.

I ALSO HAVE THE AMENDMENT ON THE FI THE GOODNIGHT RANCH FIRE EMS STATION.

I ALSO POSTED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, AN AMENDMENT TO INITIATE AN ENHANCED LIBRARY CARD PILOT PROGRAM.

WE WOULD JOIN OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR PROGRAMS. IT'S ESSENTIALLY A FORM OF MUNICIPAL ID AND THIS WORK LONG PREDATES ME.

I THINK THEN MAYOR PRO TEM, CHERYL COLE STARTED THE GROUNDWORK FOR DEVELOPING A MUNICIPAL ID AND IS NOW, UH, WHAT WE'VE SEEN HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE STATE IS THAT, UM, CITIES ARE DOING IT THROUGH THEIR LIBRARIES.

UM, SO DALLAS HAS A PILOT PROGRAM, SAN ANTONIO, SAN MARCUS, AND, UH, HARRIS COUNTY HAS ALSO LAUNCHED A PILOT PROGRAM, ALSO LOOKING AT A TELEVISING, THE AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETINGS ON ATX AND, AND GETTING THEM TELEVISED LIVE WHILE THEY'RE IN PROGRESS, UM, THAT WILL HAVE A COST ASSOCIATED.

AND WE'RE WAITING ON, UH, FINANCIALS ON THAT LOOKING AT, OR I TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, HAVING, UM, PARAMEDICS AT THE AIRPORT, INCREASING OUR CAPACITY THERE ALSO, UM, JOINING COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS ON A REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH AMENDMENT, AND THEN POTENTIALLY SEEKING TO ADD MORE FUNDS, UM, IN THAT EFFORT.

AND THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE ARE LOOKING AT A, UH, TENANT RELOCATION AMENDMENT, UH, TO ADD FUNDS EITHER DIRECTLY TO THE TENANT RELOCATION FUND, WHICH IS A FUND THAT WAS, HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED BY COUNCIL,

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MY DISTRICT, WE HAVE THE CONGRESS MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY.

UM, WE'VE HAD 40 FAMILIES DISPLACED.

UM, CAN'T CONFIRM THAT A FEW OF THE FAMILIES ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE INCOME PILOT PROGRAM WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT MOVE FORWARD.

UM, BUT THERE IS STILL A LOT MORE WORK TO BE DONE.

SO THOSE ARE THE, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THEM? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE TRY AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE INCREASE THE WAGE, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE BETTER UNDERSTANDING FOR OUR SWORN EMPLOYEES VERSUS OUR, YOU KNOW, CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES AND THE BREAKDOWN BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE RAISE THE OTHER WAGE, WE ALSO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR THINGS IN OUR CONTRACTS.

UM, SO THIS ISN'T SO MUCH A QUESTION FOR YOU AS A, AS A, AS A STATEMENT FOR STAFF.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN GET SORT OF, UM, CIVILIAN AND SWORN WITHIN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, DEPARTMENTS AND THEN LIKE, WHAT'S LIKE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WAGES IN EACH OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE IT'S JUST, I'M HAVING A LOT OF TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SAY IT'S THREE POINT NOT, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE ADDITIONAL AMOUNT IS FOR GENERAL FUND, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF SWORN AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF OUR GENERAL FUND EMPLOYEES ARE SWORN.

AND LIKE, I'M JUST HAVING TROUBLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR AS WE TRY TO DO BETTER BY OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES, UM, WE'LL NEED TO PASS THAT ON TO OUR HR DEPARTMENT, BUT I THINK IT CAN BE, I THINK THAT THE SWORN ASPECT CAN BE DONE PERHAPS VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM MAKING LESS THAN $20 AN HOUR.

IT WILL PASS IT ON TO HR AND, AND THE, AND THE STAFFING NUMBERS.

I MEAN, UM, I MEAN OFF THE CUFF, IT'S PROBABLY AROUND 45% OF THE GENERAL FUND STAFFING POSITIONS ARE PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS.

AND, BUT IF WE COULD ALSO HAVE JUST SORT OF THE TOTAL NUMBERS AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WAGES, AND JUST THERE, THERE, IT'S GOOD TO BREAK IT DOWN ON.

WHO'S MAKING IT WHAT LEVEL, BUT I'M, I'M JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR SOMETHING AS WE TRY TO DO THIS, AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THAT.

SO YES, TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT ALSO KIND OF LIKE, EVEN JUST A GROSS TOTAL OF, WE HAVE THIS NUMBER OF SWORN PROFESSIONALS AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WAGES THEY'RE GETTING IS THIS MUCH.

AND THIS MANY OF THEM MAKE LESS THAN $20 OR MAKE LESS THAN THE AMOUNT THAT'S, I DUNNO, IT'S PROBABLY 25 WITH THE COMPRESSION THAT ARE IMPACTED.

I MEAN, OUR EMS PROFESSIONALS WILL BE QUITE IMPACTED BY THAT.

IF YOU HAVE GO UP TO 20 AND THEN DO COMPRESSION FROM THERE, UM, I CAN TALK TO YOU AFTERWARDS IF IT'S CLEAR, BUT THERE'S A PIECE HERE THAT I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO COUNT.

I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE TALKED AFTERWARDS, BUT I'M CONFIDENT WE CAN GET THE NUMBERS FOR YOU.

LIKE, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A GOOSE GOOSE CHASE EITHER.

SO, SO LET'S CLARIFY.

UM, WITH THAT, AND THEN WHAT ARE YOU PREPARING A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER FINDS US ASKED EARLIER WITH RESPECT TO ENTERPRISE FUNDS, BUT PRESUMABLY, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT SOMEBODY SAID IT WAS $25 MILLION MORE.

UM, I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT NUMBER THAT WAS THROWN OUT ON TUESDAY WAS, UH, IT WAS A MISTAKE.

THAT NUMBER THAT GOT THROWN OUT WAS THE COST OF THE 4% WAGE INCREASE.

AND, UM, UM, I'VE SEEN SOME NUMBERS WHERE I EXPECT THE, UH, THE ENTERPRISE COST OF $20 TO BE ABOUT FOUR OR FOUR, FOUR TO $5 MILLION.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IN THAT RANGE.

AND WHAT I DON'T KNOW YET IS HOW MUCH WAS ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET TO GET US TO 18.

AND THEN HOW MUCH MORE DO WE NEED TO GET TO THE, TO THE 20, BUT THE $20 FROM SCRATCH THE $20 COMPARED TO THE 15 WAS FOUR TO 5 MILLION.

AND WOULD THERE BE IMPACTS TO FEES FROM A WE'RE WORKING ON ALL OF THAT? THAT'S A QUESTION WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FROM DAYS.

I'M JUST KIND OF GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF A TIP OF THE HAND WHERE IT'S TO ASSESS WHETHER WE CAN DO, AND SOME OF THE FEES ALREADY HAD THE 15, $18 INCREASE, INCLUDING SURE.

THEY ALL SHOULD HAVE THE 18, 15 TO 18.

UM, BUT WE DON'T GET TO CHANGE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS WITHOUT ACCOUNTING FOR THE REVENUE TO PAY FOR IT.

AND THAT JUST EARLIER WE HEARD 25 MILLION, WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE AFFECTED WHAT THEY WERE TAKING IN.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT.

FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS TOGETHER.

UH, I THINK I CALLED YOU IN YOUR NEXT YES.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

SO MY RIDERS ARE NOW AS FOLLOWS.

THE FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO BRING IS GOING TO BE A REDIRECTION OF THE ABORTION LOGISTICS FUNDING.

SO THIS IS THE LINE ITEM THAT COMES TO MEMBER POOL.

AND I HAVE WORKED ON

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UM, SINCE THIS IS REDIRECTING A LINE ITEM THAT ALREADY EXISTS, I'M GOING TO BRING MINE AS A WRITER.

AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FLOYD TEZ IS WORKING ON ADDING SOME MORE FUNDS IN A SIMILAR VEIN AND HAS SOME NEW IDEAS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

UM, SO THAT ONE WILL BE AN AMENDMENT.

WHICH ONE WAS THAT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

ABORTION LOGISTICS.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS GOING TO BE REGARDING LIFEGUARD BONUSES.

I KNOW THESE WERE ABLE TO BE FUNDED THIS YEAR OUT OF VACANCY SAVINGS.

AND SO MY WRITER IS GOING TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO LET US KNOW THE, THE CIRCUMSTANCES, IF THOSE VACANCIES ARE GOING TO BE HAPPENING AGAIN.

AND IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT AND IF THEY NEED COUNCIL ACTION TO BLESS THOSE LIFEGUARD BONUSES AGAIN.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A WRITER AT THIS POINT IN TIME WITH A DUE DATE FOR THE INFORMATION REQUESTED, THE THIRD WRITER WOULD BE ABOUT THE CONTINUITY OF SERVICE FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO FORMERLY WORKED FOR THE CITY AND HAVE, HAVE DEPARTED AND WAYS WE CAN INCENTIVIZE THAT INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE TO COME BACK INTO OUR COMMUNITY AND BACK INTO OUR CITY SERVICES.

SO WE'RE STILL IRONING OUT THE LANGUAGE ON THAT, BUT AT THIS POINT IT'S A, IT'S A WRITER.

UM, THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT I HAVE IS NATURE PLAY THE $150,000, UM, THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING.

THE SECOND ONE WILL BE A PARKS FACILITY, SAFETY AND SECURITY LINE ITEMS. SO WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE NUMBERS ON THAT PARTICULAR ONE.

AND THEN THE THIRD ONE WILL BE THE INCENTIVE PAY ELIGIBILITY, WHICH WE THINK WILL HAVE A, UM, WILL AFFECT THE BUDGET.

AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED TO BRING THAT AS AN AMENDMENT IF NEEDED.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO DAYLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS ON THE MESSAGE BOARD THAT WE HAVE CONFIRMED ARE BAKED INTO THE BUDGET, INCLUDE A VISION, ZERO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT, SUPPORTING NEIGHBORHOOD SPEED MITIGATION, FULLY IMPLEMENTING THE LIVING STREETS AND BLOCK PARTY PROGRAM, MAINTAINING FUNDING FOR GUN LOCKS AND SAFE STORAGE EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS.

UM, E-BIKE REBATES.

WE HAVE A QUESTION OUT FOR THE CLEANER COALITION FUNDING, WHICH HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN YEARS PAST, BUT I'M JUST WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION OF THAT ONE.

AND I THINK THAT DOES IT FOR ME.

THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WE MIGHT BE BRINGING AS THE AGENDA MEETINGS COME BACK SINCE THEY MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK TO IRON OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE DIRECTION IS AND WHAT THE IMPACTS MIGHT BE.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I'M PLANNING ON BRINGING FORWARDS THREE WRITERS AND THREE AMENDMENTS AT THIS POINT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT COLLEAGUES AS I WAS GOING THROUGH IT, THERE WERE TWO THINGS I HAD THAT I FAILED TO MENTION.

UH, THE FIRST ONE OF THEM IS A WRITER THAT SPEAKS TO THE STIPENDS SO THAT WE CAN CREATE A STIPEND FUND THAT COULD BE STRATEGICALLY PLACED BY JOYA.

UH, IN CASE WE WANT TO CONSIDER THAT AS AN OPTION, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, UH, STAFF PAY AND SALARIES.

UH, AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS THE, THERE ARE A LOT OF ARTS ORGANIZATIONS IN THE CITY THAT ARE ALL TRYING TO DO TICKETING AND BACK OF HOUSE AND INSURANCE AND SUPPORT THE LONG CENTER, SO THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO BASICALLY CREATE A CO-OP FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO MAKE IT A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE FOR THEM, SOMEBODY ELSE TO HANDLE THEIR TICKETING AND THE LIKE, UM, IF, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT MONEY TOWARD IT, IF WE WOULD HELP.

SO I'M TAKING A LOOK AT, UH, UH, THAT ONE IS AS WELL.

COUNSELOR KITCHEN.

I HAD A QUESTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.

SO I'M SORRY I MISSED THE, UH, THE THIRD ONE OF YOUR AMENDMENTS, OR MAYBE IT WAS THE SECOND ONE.

I GOT THE NATURE PLAY AND THE INCENTIVES.

WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? UH, YOU MISSED THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, THE PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY, SAFETY AND SECURITY LINE ITEM.

THEY'VE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A POINT PERSON FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY MEASURES, AND THAT MIGHT INCLUDE A VEHICLE AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THOSE, WHERE THOSE FUNDS WOULD COME FROM.

AND, UH, MS. LANG, I THINK THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, OR SOMEBODY I NOTICED, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS THAT YOU'RE, THEY'RE CALLING SOME OF THEM ON AMENDMENTS AND SOME OF THEM RIDERS.

SO I PROBABLY NEED TO REDO MINE.

I WAS CALLING MINE ALL RIDERS.

DO WE NEED TO SPECIFY, DO WE NEED TO MAKE A DISTINCTION ON WHAT WE CALL THEM IS AMENDMENTS.

IF IT COST MONEY RIDERS, IF IT DOESN'T, THAT'S THE, HOW WE'RE DOING AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT.

SO CORRECT ME IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE AND ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES THE APPROPRIATION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS, MOVING FUNDS FROM ONE AREA TO ANOTHER INCREASING STAFFING WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT AND THEN THINGS DIRECTING US, UM, UM, ON THINGS YOU WANT DONE WITH THE BUDGET AS IT'S BEEN APPROVED WOULD BE WRITERS.

IN ONE MESSAGE BOARD POST, OR DO WE EMAIL THEM TO Y'ALL OR WHAT'S THE BEST WAY? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE US? DO HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THAT AREA? OKAY.

AND THEN I MIGHT AS WELL ASK THIS QUESTION AT THIS TIME, WHILE I'VE GOT YOU UP THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A, UH, A DEADLINE, YOU KNOW, A REQUEST FOR WHEN WE POST, WE'VE ALL BEEN PUTTING VARIOUS THINGS ON OUR MESSAGE BOARD.

IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU WANT US TO DO THIS? SO IT'LL BE EASIER FOR Y'ALL.

DO WE, DO WE REALLY NEED TO PUT THEM ALL

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WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE BUDGET OFFICE.

WHO'S COORDINATING THEM.

IF YOU COULD SEND THEM TO BRAD SINCLAIR AND WE CAN SEND THAT EMAIL ADDRESS OUT TO, TO ALL OF YOU, BUT, OKAY.

UM, AND THEN MAYOR, I THINK YOU, OH, YOU ADDED, UM, THE, OF THE TWO YOU JUST ADDED.

I I'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE WITH YOU ON THE CO-OP FOR THE ARTS.

SO, OKAY.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER POINT THAT SAME COUNCIL MEMBER POOL.

YES, JUST VERY QUICKLY.

I KNOW WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE CONVERSATION AROUND THE BUDGET WRITERS THAT STAFF HAD ASKED THAT WE DO THEM SIMILAR TO IFCS, YOU KNOW, BE IT RESOLVED SO THAT WE HAD OUR LANGUAGE REALLY CLEAR AND, AND LOCKED IN.

SO THERE WAS NO CONFUSION.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE FORMAT THAT I'M USING IS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE BE IT RESOLVED WITH VERY SPECIFIC DETAILS.

THAT'S GOOD.

YOU'RE DOING THAT.

AND CERTAINLY IT'LL HELP EXPLAIN THINGS AS A BODY.

WE DECIDED NOT TO REQUIRE THAT OR ONE ANOTHER.

UH, BUT CERTAINLY THE MORE INFORMATION AND DATA YOU CAN GIVE US IS HELPFUL TO EVERYBODY.

WELL, GOOD LUCK.

GOOD LUCK.

I HOPE WE'RE VERY, I'VE HELPED.

WE'RE VERY DIRECT AND CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING.

UM, I HAD A QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER LS.

I'M SORRY.

I HAD TO STEP OFF THE DYESS FOR A MINUTE.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THE SAFETY POSITION WITHIN PART THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING FITS WITHIN THEIR KIND OF EXISTING STAFF? I KNOW WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS IN A LONG TIME, BUT ONCE UPON A TIME, THERE WAS AN AUDIT ABOUT HOW PART HANDLES SAFETY CHECKS ON THEIR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO THERE MUST BE SOME STAFF, HOW DOES THIS, LIKE HOW MANY STAFF DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE WITH RE WITH REGARD TO SAFETY, WHO DO SAFETY ISSUES AND, AND WHERE WOULD THIS FIT IN WITH EXISTING? I'LL ASK THE DIRECTOR TO ANSWER THAT SINCE SHE'S HERE.

I KNOW THAT SHE WORKED WITH THE PARKS FOUNDATION ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING REQUESTS WERE GOING TO BE.

WE TRIED TO CONFIRM IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER POSITIONS THAT COULD BE MIGRATED, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WASN'T FEASIBLE.

SO WE DECIDED TO TAKE THIS ROUTE, RIGHT? SO WE DO HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS, UM, DEDICATED TO PLAYGROUND SAFETY.

BUT WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR IS THAT WE HAVE THINGS LIKE FIRE, SUPPRESSION, AED SYSTEMS, LIGHTING, SECURITY SYSTEMS, UM, ALARMS, ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH FACILITIES AND PARKS.

AND WE HAVE NO DEDICATED INDIVIDUAL TO HELP SEE IF THERE'S CONSISTENCY OR TO DO ANY SORT OF EVALUATION AS TO WHETHER THIS CURRENT CONFIGURATION OF SAFETY MEASURES IS ACTUALLY DOING WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO ARE THE CAMERA'S WORKING THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS IT DOES.

ALLOCATED TO BE SUPPLEMENTAL WORKFORCE FUNDING TO BE REPLACING OUR WORKFORCE FUNDING IN THIS BUDGET.

THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

UM, SO IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE I'M PUTTING FORWARD THE TWO FTES TO MAKE THE HLC APPOINTMENTS, UH, PERMANENT, THAT FREES UP A PARK RANGER POSITION AND A NATURAL RESOURCE POSITION IN PART, UM, FOR THOSE, UM, WORKING ON THE SIGNAGE WAY, FINDING, UM, WITH PARD.

UM, AND THEN, UM, I MIGHT BE PUTTING FORWARD A, UH, GRANT WRITER FOR THE INNOVATION OFFICE.

WE HAVE, UM, A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS THAT WE LEAVE ON THE TABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TASKED WITH WRITING GRANTS.

UM, AND THE INNOVATION OFFICE IS POISED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD, UM, BRING BACK A LOT OF, OF MONEY FOR THE CITY AND TO SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN OUR DEPARTMENTAL IN A REALLY IMPORTANT WAY, WITHOUT A HUGE AMOUNT OF COSTS.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US, UM, TRY THAT, BUT I HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL HAVE THAT ONE READY, UM, FOR TOMORROW.

UM, AND THEN I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON WORKFORCE THAT I NEED TO ASK STAFF TO BE ABLE TO, TO, UM, FINALIZE THAT.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO SURFACE FOR, FOR EVERYONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT I CAN ASK SOME WORKFORCE QUESTIONS, UM, CAUSE I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS ADDRESSING WORKFORCE.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE WHO CAN ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS OR WE CAN BRING UP, UM, SO I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE, I MEAN, IS THERE SOMEBODY WHO CAN OTHERWISE I CAN LAY OUT MY CONCERN AND, BUT I'M SURE LAY OUT THE QUESTIONS AND THEN ANNE CAN SEE IF THEY COULD READILY ANSWER THEM AND WHO MIGHT BE THE ANSWER.

SO THAT'S A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS IN THE Q AND A I THINK ABOUT WORKFORCE.

UM, AND IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE ARE USING THE ARPA FUNDING THAT WE

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UM, AND THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE IT WAS MEANT.

AND I THINK THE TENT OF THE COUNCIL WAS FOR THE ARPA FUNDING TO SUPPLEMENT OUR LONGSTANDING WORKING WORKFORCE COMMITMENTS, NOT SUPPLANT THEM.

UM, SO I WANT TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT.

UM, AND SO I WANT STAFF TO CONFIRM, YOU KNOW, IS ANY SPENDING ON WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FROM EDD BUDGET IN FISCAL YEAR 22, 23 USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS? OR IS IT USING A FUNDING SOURCE OTHER THAN ARPA? UM, AND IF SO, HOW MUCH SPENDING FROM EDD BUDGET AND FISCAL YEAR 22, 23 IS SOURCED FROM NON ARPA FUNDS.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY NOT COMFORTABLE IF THE ARPA FUNDS WERE USED TO, TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO IN OUR WORKFORCE FUNDING, THAT WAS MEANT TO BE ABOVE AND BEYOND FUNDING TO, TO MEET PARTICULAR CHALLENGES.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALWAYS OUR INTENTION.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY AMENDMENT IS YET BECAUSE I CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT THEY DID AND, AND I HOPE I'M WRONG.

UM, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME MONEY THAT WENT TO, TO CAPITAL IDEA ABOUT THAT, BUT THE REST OF IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WAY.

THERE'S AN RFP ON THE STREET FOR 2 MILLION AND IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP.

I'M LOOKING AT THE SCREEN.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TRYING TO GET MOVED OVER SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN A CONVERSATION AS SOON AS THEY'RE ON THE SCREEN.

WE CAN GO TO THAT QUESTION.

WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND ASK THE NEXT QUESTION AS THEY WERE FINE.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONES SECOND, I THINK SUSANNAH, MAYBE WITH US AFTERNOONS TO SONICA BEHIND WHERE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

DID YOU HEAR THE QUESTION AND YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE QUESTION MAYOR FOR TIM.

UM, SO I'M TRYING TO DETERMINE HOW THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT IS ADDRESSING THE PRIORITY OF WORKFORCE.

UM, AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING SPENT IN THE EDD WORKFORCE SPENDING THIS YEAR THAT IS NON ARPA FUNDS AND WHAT IS ARPA-E FUNDS? UM, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING WE WERE DOING ALL ALONG AND IT'S, IT'S CONFUSING CAUSE ARPA FUNDING SORT OF LIKE OFF BUDGET, BUT IT'S ON BUDGET AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I'M GOING TO, UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RESPONDED TO YOU.

I BELIEVE WE RESPONDED THOSE BUDGET QUESTIONS REGARDING, UH, ARPA, THE BREAKDOWN BETWEEN ARBA AND GENERAL FUNDS.

NOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE STATED, BUT I BELIEVE, UH, THE MAJORITY OF WHAT WE ARE SPENDING IS ARPA-E COMING FROM HARPA FUNDS BECAUSE WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF, UH, ARPA FUNDING FOR, UH, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WE ARE ALSO SPENDING SOME GENERAL FUNDS AND I WANT TO CHECK OUR NUMBERS BEFORE I CONVEY THAT TO YOU.

SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING MORE THAN WE DID LAST YEAR, OR IF IT WAS THE YEAR BEFORE, IN TERMS OF OUR BUDGETS WITH RESPECT TO WORKFORCE INVOLVEMENT, EVEN THOUGH THAT MONEY WAS NOT BUDGETED TO SUPPLEMENT WAS NOT BUDGETED TO SUPPLANT MONEY WITHIN THE EDD BUDGET, BUT RATHER WAS MEANT TO BE SUPPLEMENTAL TO ADDRESS THE WORKFORCE NEEDS.

AND SO I NEED TO KNOW RELATIVE TO PRIOR YEARS WHAT YOU WERE SPENDING, UM, AND WHAT'S ARPA-E, AND WHAT'S NOT ARPA.

AND AT THIS POINT WE CAN'T TELL THAT.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT 15 MILLION IN THERE.

I KNOW THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT THAT WAS SPENT ON, UH, ON A, UH, CAPITAL IDEA SORT OF EMERGENCY TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL NURSES, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE OTHER MONEY JUST SORT OF SUBSTITUTED OTHER MONEY IN THEIR BUDGET.

AND I, I, I NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

HOWEVER, WHATEVER THE QUESTION IS TO, TO, TO, TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

UM, BECAUSE IT'S EDD IS MONEY.

WE WILL CERTAINLY, IF WE WEREN'T CLEAR IN OUR RESPONSE, WE WILL CERTAINLY PARCEL THAT OUT.

AND HOW MANY YEARS BACK DO YOU WANT US TO GO TO COMPARE WHAT OUR NORMAL FUNDING HAS BEEN FOR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF ANY SORT OF FEDERAL RESPONSE OR, OR, UM, ADDITIONAL RESPONSE? UM, OKAY.

WELL, WE NEED, UM, I GUESS PROBABLY TO FISCAL YEAR 19, SO IT'S NOT, NOT SUBJECT TO COVID PROBLEMS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL UNDER COVID.

UM, BUT I, I NEED TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT EDD IS SPENDING ON WORKFORCE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, FROM ARPA WAS ALLOCATED.

NOT, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT APH IS DOING ON WORKFORCE,

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THAT SEEMS TO BE, UM, EDD SEEMS TO BE USING OUR FUNDS OUT OF THEIR MONEY FROM WHAT I CAN DIAL IN AND I MAY BE TOTALLY WRONG, BUT I'M CONCERNED.

AND WE ALSO DID SOME, UH, WE ALSO CONTINUED TO DO SOME, UM, WHEN YOUR HOLDOVER PERIODS, UH, WITH CERTAIN, UH, CONTRACTORS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH IN THE, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY, UH, TO GET US THROUGH THE CURRENT SOLICITATION, WITH NEW CONTRACTS, THAT WE ARE GOING FORTH WITH COUNSEL IN SEPTEMBER.

SO I DO WANT TO ALSO OUTLINE THOSE, UM, THOSE CONTRACTS IS WHEN YOUR CONTRACTS ARE BASICALLY HOLDOVER CONTRACTS TO GET US THROUGH THE SOLICITATION.

AND I WANT TO IDENTIFY THOSE CONTRACTS AND THEN HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPENT UNDER THOSE CONTRACTS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS OUR REGULAR FUNDING THAT IS OUTSIDE OF OUR BUM.

SO, UM, MAYBE GO BACK THE LAST FIVE YEARS IS WHAT MY STAFF IS TELLING ME WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER US.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST OUR, THE ARPA FUNDS HELPING US TO GO BEYOND OUR NORMAL ACTIVITIES IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

UM, AND THERE IS AN RFP OUT THAT IS A MAXIMUM AWARD OF 2 MILLION, WHICH PUTS ORGANIZATIONS BELOW WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN GETTING IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE, WHAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE HOLDOVER CONTRACT, AND THERE'S ANOTHER RFP THAT'S NOT ON THE STREET YET.

AND MAYBE THAT'S CREATING THE CONFUSION, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING THE AMOUNTS, UM, IN THE BUDGET.

MARIN COUNCIL, RODNEY GONZALES, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, UH, METRO, TIM, WE DID GET YOUR QUESTION.

I THINK IT WAS QUESTION NUMBER 32 AND THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A TABLE THAT WAS INSERTED THAT BROKE DOWN THE ARPA ONE-TIME FUNDING VERSUS THE ONGOING.

UM, SO I'M SURPRISED THAT IT'S NOT THERE, BUT WE WILL RE REVISIT THAT QUESTION.

SO THE, THE TABLE THAT WE HAVE ONLY GIVES US WHAT THE ARPA-E BREAKDOWN WAS AND IT INCLUDES, YEAH, IT, YEAH, IT ONLY IS WHAT THEY ARPA.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER COLUMN FOR ONGOING, WHICH IS A NON-OP ARPA, UM, IN THE PRINTOUT THAT I RECEIVED.

IT'S NOT ON THERE, WHETHER IT'S ON THEIR ONLINE, I CAN'T SAY SO.

YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS IN GENERAL FUND IS BEING BUDGETED ON WORKFORCE IN EDD THIS FISCAL YEAR, AND, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY THE GENERAL FUND KIND OF DOLLARS.

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

WE WILL REVISIT THAT RESPONSE.

AND THEN, UM, IF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THINGS, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GET SOMEONE FROM THE INNOVATION OFFICE TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THE GRANT POSITION WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DO.

UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, WHILE SOMEONE ELSE IS TALKING, IF THEY COULD CHECK IT THAT POSSIBLE.

AND THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE HAS REDUCED THEIR FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION TO THAT PROGRAM.

I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO GO NEXT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE THE MOVING BRIEFLY TO GO PICK UP MY DAUGHTER DOWN THE HALL, DOWN THE STREET, AND THEN I'LL BE BACK.

UM, SO IF WE HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS, I MIGHT HAVE TO TABLE THEM TABLE THEM FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

UM, SO I MENTIONED A COUPLE EARLIER TODAY.

UH, OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT I'M WORKING ON ONE IS TO CREATE, I THINK I MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS TUESDAY TO CREATE, TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL FTE FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL OFFICES TO PROVIDE US WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MORE FLEX, A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY.

IF YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT A JOB SHARE AND, AND OTHER THINGS LIKE IF YOU HAVE EXTRA FUNDING, BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN FTE, THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD SOLVE THAT ISSUE.

I AM BRINGING FORWARD, UM, A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT IS FOLLOWING UP, BYE.

THIS IS COMPLICATED, BUT WE PASSED IT.

WE PASSED A RESOLUTION IN JUNE ALLOCATING FUNDING FOR RAINY STREET FOR THE RAINY HISTORIC DISTRICT PLACE, KEEPING, UM, ELEMENTS WITH A STAKEHOLDER PROCESS TO BEGIN SOON.

THIS YEAR'S BUDGET INCLUDES AN ALLOCATION OF THE RAINY FUND TO ACHIEVE THAT.

UH, THERE WILL BE AN ACCOMPANYING TO DO THAT.

WE NEED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW, TO ALLOW US TO SPEND MORE THAN $200,000 A YEAR.

FOR SOME REASON, THE ORDINANCE WAS SET TO BE, TO SAY, 200,000 WOULD TRANSFER IN EVERY YEAR.

AND THAT'S ALL WE WOULD SPEND THE FUND NOW HAS MORE MONEY THAN THAT.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE SAYING WE CAN SPEND UP TO THE FULL BALANCE, WHICH IS EITHER 500 PLUS DOLLARS OR 700,000 PLUS DOLLARS.

SO THAT'S AN ORDINANCE AND A BUDGET AMENDMENT RESILIENCE.

AS I MENTIONED, A CODE, I MENTIONED, I AM CONSIDERING BRINGING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT TO RESTORE ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO THE HOMELESS WELLNESS CENTER.

THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT WE, THAT I HAD INTRODUCED WITH.

UH, I HAD BROUGHT FORWARD A RESOLUTION THAT THE COUNCIL SUPPORTED WITH THE MAYOR.

ALSO, YOU WERE A SPONSOR ON THAT ITEM.

THIS WAS A PROGRAM THAT THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN ALLIANCE HAD SUGGESTED.

WE EXPANDED THE FUNDING FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, WHO ARE PART OF THE DOCK WAITING LIST FOR MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES THAT ARE RECEIVED AT OAK TERRACE.

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AND SO I MAY BRING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT TO RESTORE SOME OF IT.

I REALLY INTENDED TO ASK OUR HOMELESS STRATEGY OFFICER ABOUT THAT AND ABOUT THE DOC FUNDING EARLIER TODAY.

I THINK AT ONE POINT WE HAD THE DECK AS ONE OF OUR TOPICS FOR TODAY, AND SOMEHOW, SOMEHOW WE DIDN'T GET TO IT.

SO IF, IF THERE'S AN APPROPRIATE TIME AT SOME POINT TODAY, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ABOUT THAT.

I THINK I'M MISSING SOME OTHERS.

LET'S SEE, LET ME GO THROUGH MY STACK.

OH YES, I'M MISSING A LOT OF THEM.

UM, THERE'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR $350,000 TO CREATE, TO CREATE SUMMER CAMPS IN SPANISH OR DO LANGUAGE.

THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONS TO DO THAT.

AND OUR COMMISSION ON IMMIGRANT AFFAIRS SUGGESTED THAT.

AND IT'S, UH, I THINK SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT ABOUT IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THEY COULD ACHIEVE THIS SUMMER FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM DO IT FOR NEXT SUMMER.

AND THAT'S, UH, I THINK OF A PRETTY LOW COST WITH A REALLY HIGH BENEFIT.

I HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT'S COMING FORWARD FOR INTERIOR RENOVATIONS AT THE HISTORIC CASTLEMAN BULL HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER.

OUR CONVENTION CENTER THROUGH THEIR CAPITAL BUDGET HAD HAD RENOVATED THE EXTERIOR OF IT.

IF WE RENOVATE THE INTERIOR, I THINK THAT PROVIDES THE CONVENTION CENTER WITH ANOTHER VENUE, ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT IF THEY DO UNDERTAKE AN EXTENSIVE RENOVATION OR EXPANSION OF THEIR EXISTING SITE THAT PROVIDES THEM WITH A SMALL, BUT SOME VENUE OVER THERE.

AND I THINK IT OFFER ALSO OFFERS, YOU KNOW, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROGRAMMING FOR OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS AS WELL.

UH, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT FOR SECURITY, 24 7 SECURITY COSTS FOR THE BRUSH SQUARE MUSEUMS. ALSO ACROSS FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER.

THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MOST BUDGET CYCLES.

WE PROVIDED SOME SECURITY THROUGH A COMPLICATED FUNDING SOURCE A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE LOTS OF LOTS OF INCIDENTS, UM, AT BREAST SQUARE MUSEUMS AND NEED ADDITIONAL SECURITY THERE.

COVID I MENTIONED, UM, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT COMING FORWARD TO INCREASE THE BUDGET FOR THE SOBERING CENTER.

SO THE BUDGET, THE BUDGET FOR THE SOBERING CENTER IS REALLY RELYING ON PROJECTIONS THAT WERE DONE PRIOR TO THE SOBERING CENTER OPENING.

AND SO IT'S CREATED, IT'S REALLY CREATED KIND OF A FUNDING CHALLENGE YEAR AFTER YEAR FOR THE SOBERING CENTER.

THE SOBERING CENTER HAS, IS DOING A GREAT JOB OF DIVERSIFYING ITS FUNDING AND RAISING PRIVATE DONATIONS AND AN INCREASING NUMBER OF GRANTS, BUT STILL NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.

WE'LL STILL NEED SUPPORT FROM THE CITY, UM, AS PART OF OUR FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION TO THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION.

AND SO THIS AMENDMENT FOR $233,000 WILL REALLY GET THEM TO WHERE THEY, WHERE THEY HAD REQUESTED TO BE.

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION THEY HAD SUBMITTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UPDATED PROJECTIONS.

THEY NEVER APPARENTLY GOT LOADED INTO THE CITY SYSTEM.

SO THEY'RE ALWAYS LAGGING A LITTLE BIT BEHIND WHERE THEIR ACTUAL COSTS ARE.

I HAVE AN AMENDMENT.

I HOPE THAT WE CAN DISCUSS, I DON'T KNOW WHEN, SINCE WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME HERE TODAY, UM, WE HAD A REQUEST FROM, I BELIEVE FROM ONE POINT CENTRAL TEXAS TO NO, I'M SORRY.

THIS IS, UH, IN RESPONSE TO MY BUDGET RIDER FROM LAST YEAR, I THINK I'D DONE LAST YEAR, A BUDGET RIDER ASKING OUR STAFF TO LOOK AT WHAT IT WOULD COST TO PROVIDE COST OF LIVING INCREASES TO OUR SOCIAL SERVICE, UH, TO OUR SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES THAT ARE BEING SUPPORTED THROUGH CONTRACTS.

AND, AND WE GOT BACK SOME INFORMATION AND I MAY BRING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT RELATED TO THAT TO TRY TO GET THOSE SOCIAL SERVICE EMPLOYEES UP TO WORKING FOR CONTRACT, UH, WORKING THROUGH OUR CONTRACTS, UM, UP TO COST OF LIVING.

I THINK I'M ALMOST DONE.

THE NEXT IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT RELATED TO RESTORING FISCAL YEAR 21 FUNDING FOR SOME CRITICAL AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS. THOSE NAMELY BEING PRIME TIME AND VICTORIA, VICTORIA, VICTORY TUTORIAL.

I HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE A REVENUE GENERATOR.

AND I AM LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF REVENUE GENERATING IDEAS, BUT THIS IS ONE OUR CITY HALL PARKING GARAGE CONTINUES TO BE SO FAR UNDER MARKET IN TERMS OF ITS RATES, UM, THAT I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS IT FOR ONE THING.

IT IS, IT IS REVENUE THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE RECEIVING THAT WE'RE NOT THAT MONEY IS DEDICATED RIGHT NOW TO BUILDING FACILITIES, UH, BUILDING REPAIRS HERE.

AND SO I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT ANYTHING ABOVE THE CURRENT RATES IS DESIGNATED FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, POSSIBLY FOR SOME OF THE YOUTH PROGRAMS THAT I DISCUSSED EARLIER.

AND JUST, YOU

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KNOW, I'LL, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THAT WELL, WHEN YOU SEE THE AMENDMENT, YOU'LL SEE HOW TOTALLY TOTALLY OFF, OFF MARKET WE ARE HERE AT, UH, AT OUR PARKING GARAGE.

THIS IS BY, BY THE WAY, NOT INTENDED TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THOSE WHO ARE USING CITY HALL.

IF YOU, IF YOU'RE HERE FOR A CITY PURPOSE, YOU'LL STILL GET FREE PARKING.

IT'S REALLY JUST ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE, WHO ARE PARKING HERE, WHO ARE, UH, GOING OTHER PLACES.

AND THEN I MENTIONED THE YOUTH PROGRAMS, WE GOT SOME UPDATED INFORMATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM TO OUR HR STAFF.

THE COUNTY APPARENTLY HAS, UH, HAS DECIDED TO INCREASE YOUTH WAGES FROM $8 TO $13.

AND SO I'M BRINGING FORWARD A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO INCREASE IT TO $13, BUT ALSO TO DO WHAT I DESCRIBED DOING ON TUESDAY TO PROVIDE OUR STAFF WITH BUDGET DIRECTION, TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT, THAT MARKET STUDY, TO SEE WHERE, HOW COMPETITIVE THAT IS NEXT YEAR AND CONSIDER INCREASING AT BEYOND 13, I HAVE SOME OTHER BUDGET DIRECTION BEYOND THOSE WE HAD JUST, WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, TENANT RELOCATION, NEXUS STUDY TO DIRECT.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE FUNDING, BUT HAVE NOT COMPLETED THAT NEXUS STUDY AND I CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, BUT, UM, UM, THIS BUDGET DIRECTION WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO GO FORWARD AND DO THAT NEXUS STUDY.

THERE'S SOMETHING RELATED TO THE SOBERING CENTER, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE UPDATING THE INTER LOCAL TO REFLECT THAT BUDGET AMENDMENT, IF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT PASSES AND THEN, UH, THERE'S BUDGET DIRECT, UM, PROPOSING BUDGET DIRECTION TO DO A PROGRAM THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN THE TML PUBLICATION THAT WE ALL GET IN OUR OFFICE.

I READ ABOUT A PROGRAM IN WILEY, TEXAS, AND IT'S A PROGRAM THAT EMPLOYEES, UM, INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY DISABILITIES.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE YOUTH IN WILEY.

AND, UM, MY STAFF HAS SPENT REALLY CONSIDERABLE TIME TALKING WITH WILEY, TALKING WITH HR OR TALKING WITH AISD ABOUT INSTITUTE, ROLLING OUT A PROGRAM HERE AT THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND SO I AM THIS BUDGET DIRECTION HAS NO, NO IMPACT, NO FINANCIAL IMPACT, UM, BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WOULD BE PARTICIPATING BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE IT WITHIN THEIR EXISTING BUDGETS, BUT IT WOULD JUST KIND OF MEMORIALIZE THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

AND IT IS, IT IS PROVIDING A TRANSITIONAL VOCATIONAL PREPARATION PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES OR DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

AND AISD ALREADY HAS AN OFFICE THAT, THAT, UM, PARTICIPATES WITH PRIVATE EMPLOYERS TO DO THIS WORK.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE BUDGET DIRECTION, UH, EXACTLY WHAT KINDS OF RESOURCES AISD WOULD BE WILLING TO PROVIDE IF THIS PROGRAM GETS STARTED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE, UM, AT OUR BUDGET, BUT I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A REALLY EXCITING DIRECTION FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE CITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE STUDENTS WHO PARTICIPATE.

AND WE'LL ALSO, I THINK BE A GOOD ROLE MODEL FOR OTHER OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

UM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I MAY NEED TO TABLE SOME OF THEM UNTIL I GET BACK FROM AUSTIN HIGH.

QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO BECAUSE OUR KITCHEN, UM, TH THIS, WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS HERE, BUT I WILL, AT ONE POINT, WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TENANT RELOCATION, NEXUS STUDY, UH, LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AT MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I'M COULD BE TOTALLY WRONG ABOUT THIS, CAUSE I MIGHT NOT BE REMEMBERING, BUT I THOUGHT LEGAL TOLD US WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO, WE WEREN'T AUTHORIZED TO DO A NEXUS STUDY.

SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'D LIKE TO JUST HAVE THE CONVERSATION PERHAPS IN EXECUTIVE SESSIONS.

IF WE COULD DO IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THAT'D BE RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER? TOBO OKAY.

LET'S GO TO THE NEXT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.

AND IF I COULD JUST INVITE, I THINK I'VE, I THINK MY STAFF I'VE GOTTEN SOME OF YOU ALL TO HAVE SHARED THIS WITH SOME OF YOU ALL, BUT IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN DOING ANY OF THOSE, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

AS A CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATOR.

UH, YES, MAYOR, I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR 'EM TO HIRE A VETERAN SERVICE COORDINATOR, POSITION MANAGEMENT TOO.

AND I WANTED IT ALSO TO GIVE DIRECTION THAT IT, THAT THIS POSITION SHOULD BE PUT IN MANAGEMENT SERVICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE, THE CITY OF AUSTIN DON'T HAVE A, UM, A BEDROOM SERVICE COORDINATOR.

AND, UH, YOU'VE BEEN THOUGH IN 2021, WE PASS A RESOLUTION, DIRECTING A CITY MANAGER TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING THEIR VETERAN AND MILITARY AFFAIR OFFICE.

AND, UH, THE ONE THAT WE USED TO HAVE IT'S, UH, IT GOT TRANSFERRED OVER FROM THE HUMAN RESOURCE DEPARTMENT TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICE.

AND THEN THAT POSITION GOT RECLASSIFIED

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SO WE, WE LOST THE ONLY VETERAN COORDINATOR THAT WE HAD.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS, UM, IT'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT SO THAT WE COULD HIRE SOMEONE THAT CAN GO OUT AND DO THE OUTREACH WORK FOR OUR VETERANS HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND, AND TO INFORM ALL OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, UH, UH, THE ARMY COMMAND CONTROL STATION HERE IN AUSTIN.

I THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOSING OUT ON A LOT OF VALUABLE RESOURCES THAT WE COULD USE TO HELP OUR VETERANS HERE IN AUSTIN.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT COMING UP.

IT'S ACROSS DEPARTMENTAL PROGRAM.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILOR CAUSE OF HER KITCHEN? UM, I'D BE INTERESTED IN BEING EDITED AS A CO-SPONSOR TO THE VETERAN.

THAT'S SOMETHING OFF AND ON OVER THE YEARS WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER ON.

AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S KIND OF PAST TIME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHERE I DREAM OF YOU.

I'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE WITH YOU AS WELL ON THAT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER INTO THE, UH, ALL RIGHT.

WHO ELSE WANTS TO DAYLIGHT SOME STUFF FOR US HERE BECAUSE OF OUR KITCHEN? UM, OKAY.

I, UM, I POSTED A LIST ON THE MESSAGE BOARD AND I'LL, UM, UPDATE THAT WITH FURTHER INFORMATION, BUT I BELIEVE EVERYTHING'S LISTED, SO I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.

UM, IN TERMS OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS, UM, I'VE GOT THE AMENDMENT RELATED TO THE HEAL PROGRAM, THE SHELTER OPERATIONS, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

I HAVE A BUDGET RELATED TO DISTRICT LEVEL PLANNING.

THIS IS, UH, FOR ONGOING FUNDS TO PROVIDE STAFFING TO OUR HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

IT IS, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THE RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL PASSED EARLIER THIS YEAR, WHICH CALLED FOR, UM, WHICH CALL FOR FUNDING, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THE DISTRICT LEVEL PLANNING.

THE THIRD THING IS THE PERSONAL ATTENDANCE PILOT, WHICH IS ONE-TIME FUNDING, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER.

UH, THE FOURTH ONE IS AN AGE-FRIENDLY FTE, WHICH IS ONGOING FUNDING TO ADD AN FTE TO OUR AGE FRIENDLY, UM, OFFICE TO, TO HELP US MAINTAIN OUR AGE-FRIENDLY STATUS.

YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK.

WE DID, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMISSION ON SENIORS DID THE WORK THAT WAS NECESSARY TO OBTAIN, UM, CER TO OBTAIN RECOGNITION AS AN AGE-FRIENDLY CITY.

WE ARE, UH, IN DANGER OF LOSING THAT DESIGNATION.

WE HAVE NOT MADE AS SUFFICIENT PROGRESS ON ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, BEEN MADE, AND WE REALLY JUST NEED ANOTHER FTE.

SO THAT'S WHAT, UH, AND THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO REQUESTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE, UM, THE, UM, COMMISSION ON SENIORS.

THE FIFTH THING IS A HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM.

UH, WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT YET EITHER.

THAT'S ONE TIME EXPENSE FROM TIME TO TIME, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR, UM, THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND AND REALLY HAVE, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.

UM, ALTHOUGH OUR PIO OFFICE AND OUR HOMELESS, UM, UM, SERVICE, OUR, OUR, UH, HOMELESS OFFICE DOES THE BEST THEY CAN.

THEY REALLY NEED THEY'RE REALLY OPERATING, UM, NOT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE WAY.

SO I'LL PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK WE NEED A MORE COMPREHENSIVE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.

THIS IS ONE TIME FUNDING TO, TO, UM, TO HIRE THE RESOURCES, TO HELP US DEVELOP THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM, UH, BUDGET RIDERS THAT DON'T HAVE A BUDGET IMPACT.

I MENTIONED BEFORE THE NINE 11 CALL TAKERS DIRECTIONS TO REPORT PROGRESS ON ADDRESSING THE VACANCY RATE, A SENIOR TAX EXEMPTION, SENIOR DISABLED TAX EXEMPTION.

WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TO RAISE THE EXEMPTION LEVEL, UH, TO ADDRESS, UH, POTENTIAL INCREASED COSTS FROM THE HOUSING BOND.

UM, AND, UH, THE, THE THIRD ONE THAT I, THAT I MAY, UH, THEN MAY ADD, HAS TO DO WITH AUSTIN CARES, UH, AND THAT'S REALLY JUST, UM, DIRECTION TO, UM, OUR BUDGET OFFICE TO, TO FIND A WAY TO IDENTIFY IN OUR BUDGET IN THE FUTURE.

UM, AND TO REPORT THE RESULTS OF THIS PROGRAM.

AUSTIN CARES IS THE NINE ONE ONE, UM, UH, CALL CENTER, UM, ACCESS TO CLINICIANS IN THE CALL CENTER.

IT'S NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED, BUT BECAUSE IT IS CROSS DEPARTMENTAL, WE DON'T REALLY, YOU CAN'T FIND IT IN THE BUDGET AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, UM, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT

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TO UNDERSTAND AND LOCATE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE PROGRAM IS DOING SO, UM, THIS WOULD BE DIRECTION AROUND, UM, ADDRESSING THAT FOR FUTURE BUDGETS.

AND, UH, I'VE ALSO SIGNED ON TO A NUMBER OF OTHER, UM, ANOTHER, A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, AMENDMENTS AND RIDERS.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT JUST A FEW OF THOSE, UH, RAISING THE LIVING WAGE TO $20 AN HOUR.

I'M WORKING WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER OF ON THAT ONE, THE AEDC FUNDING WORKING WITH, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO ON THAT ONE PARK SHADE STRUCTURES, WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER VAILA ON THAT ONE, UM, TENANT ANTI-DISPLACEMENT OR TENANT RELOCATION, I'M SORRY.

UH, FUND WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WENT TO US ON THAT ONE.

AND THEN I'VE ALSO ALSO SUPPORTING A NUMBER OF OTHER ONES THAT, UH, THAT, UM, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE BRINGING.

THOSE ARE JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS.

MAY I THINK THE INNOVATION OFFICES OKAY.

UP THERE, I THINK, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

DAVID'S HERE WITH THE INNOVATION OFFICE AND THAT'S MR. COLADA OR MS. TERENA WANT TO SPEAK HE'S COMING ON.

I THINK ELBOWS SERENA IS GOING TO ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION CAUSE DANIEL HAS TO JUMP OFF AND MISS ARENA.

HELLO COUNCIL.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY.

UH, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS, UH, POSITION FOR, UM, UH, GRANTS ROLE, UH, WITHIN THE INNOVATION OFFICE.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE AN OFFICE THAT SERVES OTHER ENTITIES WITHIN THE CITY WHERE AN OFFICE OF SERVICE, AND, UM, WE WOULD BE CERTAINLY WANTING TO, IF PAST CONSIDER HOW THIS ROLE, UM, COULD BE A SERVICE IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, UH, THAT MAY BE PLACED THOSE CURRENT CAPACITY NEED OR, UM, OF STRESSORS AROUND THE TOP OF GRANTS.

UM, THAT COULD CERTAINLY INCLUDE, UM, LOOKING AT, UM, HOW THIS POSITION COULD HELP SKILL UP, UM, OUR STAFF ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS IN TERMS OF FINDING GRANTS, WRITING GRANTS, EVALUATING GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AND INCREASE THE SUCCESS, UM, IN GOING AFTER, UM, THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AS WELL AS FACILITATING CROSS DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION, UM, ON, UH, OPEN OPPORTUNITIES SO THAT PEOPLE COULD WORK ACROSS SILOS, UH, TO APPROACH, UM, OPPORTUNITIES THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST TO THE CITY.

UM, AND WE CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, THAT COUNCIL HAS AN INNOVATIVE SPIRIT, MANY TIMES IN ORDER TO ADDRESS, UM, INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS.

WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT ALL OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING, UM, THAT MAY BE, UH, THAT MAY BE ON THE TABLE AND MAYBE OUT THERE.

UH, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, UM, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, UH, IF WE WERE TO BE ABLE TO SHAPE THIS KIND OF ROLE, UM, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH THE, UH, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE FINANCE AND COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, UH, TO THINK ABOUT HOW THIS ROLE COULD HELP, UM, PROMOTE AND PLAY A ROLE IN, UH, TRACKING REQUIREMENTS AND REPORTING THAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, UM, INCUR AUDITS, UM, AND THAT WE, UH, THAT WE SHAPE OUR WORK, UH, IN THE BEST QUALITY POSSIBLE.

I MEAN, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM, I'M SUPER SUPPORTIVE OF THIS FTE.

I THINK IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF FEDERAL FUNDING THAT WE KNOW IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE AND HAVING A DEDICATED STAFF MEMBER TO WRITE THESE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WILL CERTAINLY HELP US SCALE OUR EFFORTS.

I'M CURIOUS HOW, UM, HOW WOULD OUR OFFICES WORK WITH THIS POTENTIAL FTE AND, AND I GUESS MORE BROADLY, HOW, UM, HOW DID COUNCIL OFFICES WORK AND WITH GRANT APPLICATIONS? IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU EMAIL TO THE ACM AND SAY, HEY, CHECK OUT THIS GRANT OPPORTUNITY.

CAN WE LOOK INTO IT? IT'S A GENERAL QUESTION, HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.

YES, YOU WOULD ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH OUR OFFICE.

YOU CAN, AT ANY TIME EMAIL US AND OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OR THE PARTICULAR AREA WOULD ASSIGN IT TO THE RIGHT PERSON.

SO START WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

COOL, GREAT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

UH, I'M, I'M CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS FTE FOCUSED ON GRANT WRITING AND WOULD LOVE TO CO-SPONSOR THE EFFORT, IF POSSIBLE, MAYOR PRO TEM.

I'D LIKE TO JOIN YOU ON THAT AS WELL.

THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, COLLECTIVELY IT COULD HELP US ON A LOT OF OUR INTERDEPARTMENTAL, UM, ACTIVITIES, ALTHOUGH WE WOULDN'T BE LIMITING IT, UM, TO THOSE OFFICES.

WE'LL TRY AND GET IT DONE TOMORROW.

WE MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE NUMBERS PERFECT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WRITE SOMETHING UP FOR THAT.

I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, BUT THEY REQUIRE NOT JUST WRITING THE GRANT, BUT THEY ALSO REQUIRE COORDINATION.

THEY REQUIRE, UM, WORK AFTER THE FACT, AND IT IS REALLY HELPFUL TO HAVE PEOPLE WITHIN OFFICES, PARTICULARLY WHEN WE HAVE AN OFFICE LIKE THE INNOVATION OFFICE, UM, THAT HAS A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OVER ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND IS NOW WORKING IN CONJUNCTION ALSO WITH OUR EQUITY AND OUR SUSTAINABILITY OFFICE.

AND I THINK THERE'S A FOURTH ONE IN THERE THAT I'M FORGETTING, UM,

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SO THANK YOU.

OKAY, ELENA, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY, THEY WANT TO A DAYLIGHT FOR ALL OF US? YES.

UH, JUST A FEW.

THE BIG ONE IS A RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A $5 MILLION IN ONE-TIME FUNDING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSAL THAT ALREADY INCLUDES A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.

AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, THE LEGAL SERVICES AND, UH, UH, AND A RELOCATION ASSISTANCE.

BUT WE, I BELIEVE HAD A MUCH HIGHER AMOUNT LAST YEAR.

THE NEED IS STILL VERY GREAT.

AND PARTICULARLY IN MY DISTRICT, THAT IS REALLY FEELING A LOT OF, UH, PRESSURE AND SEEING SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, DISLOCATION.

I ALSO SEE THIS AS AN INVESTMENT IN, IN REALLY OUR ANTI HOMELESSNESS EFFORTS, UH, BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE ILLNESS, ONE CAR ACCIDENT AWAY FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, REAL UNCERTAINTY AND, AND, UH, IN TROUBLE.

SO, UH, WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT FOR ONE-TIME FUNDS.

UH, THE, ANOTHER ONE IS FOR LIFEGUARD POSITIONS CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FULL-TIME, UH, LIFEGUARDS.

WE, UH, EVEN IF A LIFEGUARD IS WORKING ALL YEAR ROUND, THEY'RE CLASSIFIED AS A TEMPORARY EMPLOYEE.

THE CURRENT BUDGET, I BELIEVE HAS FOUR POSITIONS CREATES FOUR POSITIONS.

UM, ACCORDING TO INFORMATION FROM, UH, UH, OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT, THE WOULD THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY, THEY NEED BASICALLY 30 PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE AND RUN OUR, UH, YEAR ROUND POOLS.

UM, I WILL BE ASKING AND WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THE DETAILS OF THIS RIGHT NOW FOR ABOUT, UH, 15 TO 20 ADDITIONAL SOME OF THE MONEY FOR THAT WILL COME FROM THE TEMPORARY, THE MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THE TEMPORARY POSITIONS.

SOME OF IT ARE NEW, UH, FTES.

UM, SO THAT'S, UH, ANOTHER ITEM.

AND AGAIN, JUST IN TERMS OF REALLY LABOR FAIRNESS, I THINK THAT IF, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE IS WORKING YEAR ROUND, LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, AND MAKE THEM, YOU KNOW, A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WITH, UH, FULL BENEFITS.

ANOTHER, UH, UH, ITEM WILL BE FOR, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING, UH, AT THE FED POWER PLANT.

IT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED FOR AWHILE.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, DIRECT FUNDED FOR ABOUT $125,000 AND THEN DIRECT, UH, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH TO ESSENTIALLY DESIGN AN RFP.

AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO KNOW, UH, WHAT DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT IN AROUND THE FED POWER PLANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ENVIRONMENT IS, UH, SAFE AROUND THERE? YOU KNOW, THE, THE PLANT HAS PROVIDED CHEAP ELECTRICITY FOR THE PEOPLE OF AUSTIN AND THE REGION FOR MANY, MANY DECADES.

AND I JUST WANT TO, I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOLKS THAT LIVE AROUND THE POWER PLANT ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

UH, AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY THERE'LL BE THE, UH, A, UH, UH, DIRECTION TO STAFF WITH REGARD TO, UH, SHADING, OUR, UH, PLAYGROUNDS, UH, BASKETBALL COURTS, UH, ANY OTHER TYPE OF COURTS THROUGHOUT OUR PARTS, UH, UH, LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN AND COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO FOR HELPING ME WITH, UH, GET THE DIRECTION ON THAT JUST RIGHT.

UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT IT.

AND, UM, AND ACTUALLY A DIRECTOR, UH, MCNEELY, UH, SENT ME A REALLY GREAT INITIAL DOCUMENT WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE, UH, PARTS AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UH, THERE IS SOME SHADE, SOME NATURAL SHADE WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A COVER.

UH, AGAIN, I JUST I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH, UH, STAFF'S ABILITY TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER IN SUCH A SHORT TIMEFRAME.

I KNOW THAT THAT DOCUMENT WILL BE REFINED AND WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, IMPROVED, BUT, UH, UH, I'M, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND, UH, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO IMPROVING THE KIND OF QUALITY AND USABILITY OF OUR PARKS YEAR UP QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER, AVAILA, GUYS, WHATEVER POINT THIS AND CUSTOMER POOL.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

WE'RE WORKING ON CUSTOMER OF ELLA ON THE SHADING STRUCTURES.

CAN YOU SHARE THAT REPORT SO THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK FOR AREAS? UH, I WILL, I WILL SEND IT TO, UH, TO RIGHT NOW OR I'LL POST IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD HERE IN A SECOND.

LIFEGUARD THE FULL TIME AROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, YEAR ROUND.

POSTED ON THE MESSAGE WHERE WOULD BE BEST AS OUR POLL.

I HAD TWO THINGS.

ONE I WANTED TO, UM, ASK TO BE ADDED ON THE

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AND THEN I WAS CURIOUS ON THE FA POWER PLANT THAT'S IN FAYETTE COUNTY.

I KNOW WE OWN A PORTION OF THE POWER PLANT AND WE'RE WORKING ON, WE HAVE BEEN MORE HANDS ON TRYING TO EXTRICATE OURSELVES FROM THE AGREEMENT WITH THE LCRA, WHICH IS PROBLEMATICAL.

UM, UH, SO SINCE THIS IS IN A DIFFERENT COUNTY, IN OUR JURISDICTION, DOES NOT GO BEYOND THE BOUNDARY OF THE PORTION OF THE POWER PLANT THAT WE HAPPEN TO OWN AND OPERATE WHAT, UM, EFFORTS, UH, REACH OUTREACH AND SO FORTH.

UH, DO YOU KNOW OF, UH, WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS IN FAYETTE COUNTY AND THE RESIDENTS THERE TO GET A SENSE ON WHAT THEIR TAKE IS ON THIS? UM, SO THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF, UH, I'VE TALKED TO A HANDFUL OF, UH, FOLKS ABOUT THAT WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED OUT IN, UH, FAYETTE COUNTY AND WHO HAVE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF EFFORTS IN THE PAST, BUT AS PART OF THE, UH, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUTREACH AND THAT WE DO HAVE ESSENTIALLY BUY-IN FROM THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF GOING IN THERE, UH, AND DICTATING, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS A COOPERATIVE EFFORT AND NOT SOMETHING WHERE IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN OUTSIDER COMING IN TO, YOU KNOW, TELL FOLKS WHAT TO DO.

I MEAN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE NO JURISDICTION.

SO BEYOND THE BOUNDARY LINES, SO DOES THE OUTREACH THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INCLUDE THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, IN THAT COUNTY AND ANY ELECTED CITY LEVEL OFFICIALS? SO WE HAVE NOT, I, MY SENSE WAS TO PUT OUTREACH GENERALLY AND NOT IDENTIFIED, BUT I AM DEFINITELY OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, MORE KIND OF SPECIFIC GUIDANCE TO, AGAIN, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH OR WHOEVER WILL BE ULTIMATELY CONDUCTING THE RESEARCH TO, UH, TO SEE EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, DEFINE THAT GUIDANCE, DEFINE THAT OUTREACH.

BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN WE GET INVOLVED IN, IN TRYING TO ASCERTAIN WHAT THE POSITION OF A COMMUNITY IS, WE DO HAVE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS AND WE ARE VERY EXPLICIT IN ALL THE LEVELS OF INVOLVEMENT AND MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE A BROAD ARRAY OF PEOPLE.

UM, AND SO IN THIS CASE, I, I WOULD WANT US TO BE EVEN MORE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ISSUES COULD ARISE BECAUSE WE ARE, UM, INVOLVING OURSELVES IN SITUATIONS THAT ANOTHER COUNTING OUT TO THE EXTENT THAT IT MAY BE DETERMINED THAT THERE IS IN FACT, SOME SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR THE, UM, HEALTH CONCERNS AND SO FORTH.

WE CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO SURFACE THAT.

AND I THINK FAYETTE COUNTY OFFICIALS ALSO WOULD WANT TO KNOW THAT.

SO I THINK THERE IS A COMMONALITY OF INTENTION AND PURPOSE.

I WOULD JUST ASK IN, IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU MAY BE BRINGING THAT WE HIGHLIGHT THAT, THAT WE ARE NOT INTENDING TO COME IN AT, WITH, AND BIGFOOT THEM BECAUSE THAT, THAT COULD HAVE THE NEGATIVE REPERCUSSIONS THAT WOULD COMPLETELY SQUASH ANY GOOD INTENTIONS AND GOOD WORK THAT, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEAD ON.

I COMPLETELY AGREE.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL.

AND I, AGAIN, IT'S, THERE'S SO MUCH OUT THERE BOTH IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TCQ FILINGS AND OTHER PRIOR REPORTS.

I HAVE TALKED TO A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE ABOUT APPARENTLY LIKE THE FED, UH, GROUNDWATER HAD DONE A STUDY, UH, MAYBE A DECADE OR TWO AGO.

THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME LITIGATION THAT ALSO HAS A LOT OF DATA, SO THERE'S KIND OF A LOT TO BUILD ON.

UH, BUT, BUT YES, I, I THINK THAT, THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO GET SOME, UH, BUY-IN FROM LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS, UH, JUST AS WE WOULD, LIKE I SAID IN JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE ARE VERY COMMITTED TO KIND OF OUTREACH AND, AND ENGAGEMENT AND, UH, UH, AND, AND GETTING INPUT.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT SAME TACK WITH, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT.

THE COLLABORATION PIECE IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW SUCCESSFUL WE ARE.

I HOPE SO.

UH, TO TELL US WHAT WE WERE SPENDING RELATIVE TO THE PROPOSAL THAT CAME FROM SOME OF THE COMMUNITY GROUPS, THAT'S $75 MILLION PROPOSAL.

UH, TWO THINGS, UH, COLLEAGUES THAT I WANT TO JUST MENTION AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET NEXT WEEK, UH, ON SOME OF THE THINGS PEOPLE WILL BE PROPOSING IT'S TO SPEND MONEY.

UH, THERE MAY VERY WELL BE PROPOSALS WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SAVE MONEY OR FIND MONEY.

WE CONSIDER THOSE SEPARATELY.

SO IF YOU FIND MONEY, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY GET TO IDENTIFY WHERE IT GOES TO.

UH, THOSE ARE INDEPENDENT DECISIONS.

WE DIVIDE THOSE QUESTIONS.

UH, YOU CAN CERTAINLY RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL AND MOVE TO THE COUNCIL THAT CERTAIN FOUND DOLLARS BE SPENT IN A CERTAIN WAY.

UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAPPEN THAT WAY.

THAT HAPPENS AT THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL.

THE SECOND THING I'D LIKE TO ASK IS, UH, AND WE HAD ASKED FOR THIS AT ONE POINT, I THINK HE MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT OR DONE PART OF IT IS I JUST WANTED TO GET STAFF, UM,

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SO I THINK THAT INDICATES TO US WHAT OF THOSE THINGS ARE OTHERWISE COVERED OR ARE PRESENT IN THE, UH, UH, BUDGET, UH, WOULD BE, UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UH, FOR THE COMMENTS, UH, QUESTIONS ON PEOPLE'S THINGS, DAILY THINGS, UH, COUNCIL, REMEMBER, UH, UH, KELLY FIRST AND THANK YOU.

UM, IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT I DID NOT TALK ABOUT THE, UM, ANIMAL SERVICES, BEHAVIORIST ITEM THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD, WHICH WAS, UM, ACTUALLY IN A RESOLUTION FROM 2010, THE RECOMMENDATION TO HIRE AN ANIMAL BEHAVIORIST WAS APPROVED AT THE TIME.

AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE AT OUR ANIMAL SERVICES ORGANIZATION SINCE THEN.

IT'S A SPECIALIZED POSITION THAT'S CRITICAL AND EVALUATING DOGS WITH BEHAVIOR CHALLENGES AND HELP KEEPING US A NO-KILL CITY.

UM, NOW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A ANIMAL SERVICES, OFFICE EFFICIENCY AUDIT.

AND SO THERE IS A LITTLE PIECE IN THIS THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE INITIATION OF THE SEARCH FOR THE POSITION TO OCCUR AFTER THE EFFICIENCY AUDIT OR BY THE END OF 2023, WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST.

WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE BY BRINGING THIS FORWARD THAT THE ANIMAL CENTER DIRECTOR AND STAFF WORK WITH THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMISSION AND STAKEHOLDERS, WHILE THEY'RE DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO THIS POSITION, WITH THE SCOPE OF THE POSITION IN MIND, BEFORE MOVING FORWARD TO INITIATE THAT SEARCH, I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT KEY PIECE, AND I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR MY COLLEAGUES WHO SUPPORTED ME ON THIS AND BROUGHT TOGETHER SOME OF THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL FOR, FOR HELPING WITH THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS ON THAT ITEM.

I THINK I AM RIGHT.

I'D FORGOTTEN TO MENTION TWO PIECES, UH, TO TWO OTHER AREAS.

UM, ONE IS WHEN I HAVEN'T RESOLVED WHETHER AND HOW I MIGHT BRING FORWARD AN AMENDMENT OR DIRECTION, BUT WE ARE, AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAD A WORK GROUP THAT LOOKED AT IN SOURCING JOBS IN THE CUSTODIAL AND SECURITY AREAS, ESPECIALLY THOSE JOBS THAT ARE CONSISTENT NEEDS FOR THE CITY.

AND WE SET SOME CRITERIA CONSISTENT NEEDS.

AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER CRITERIA, BUT BASICALLY, UM, THAT, THAT WAS THE UPSHOT WE DID.

WE MADE SOME GOOD PROGRESS ON THIS LAST YEAR, PRIMARILY THROUGH A BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT I HAD BROUGHT THAT THE COUNCIL PASSED.

WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BUILDING FACILITY STAFF AND OUR PURCHASING STAFF ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S AN ABILITY TO MAKE MORE PROGRESS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT JOB CLIMATE HAS MADE, UH, FILLING SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS CHALLENGING.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I AM IN MY EVALUATION AT THE MOMENT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER, WHETHER THERE'S WHETHER AN AMENDMENT WOULD BE, WOULD AFFECT ANY ACTUAL CHANGES GIVEN THAT GIVEN THE JOB SITUATION.

SO IT MAY JUST BE FURTHER DIRECTION.

THE OTHER ELEMENT OF BUDGET DIRECTION THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD IS ONE THAT DIRECTOR MCNEELY, WE HAVEN'T TALKED WITH YOU ABOUT, BUT I'VE ASKED SOME QUESTIONS IN THE Q AND A ABOUT, ABOUT VENUE RENTALS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHEN THIS STOPPED, SOME OF OUR, OUR FACILITIES WERE AVAILABLE FOR RENTALS, UM, COMMENTS, BOARD, BRANCH, WRECKER RANCH.

THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OR TWO OTHERS THAT ARE NO LONGER KIND OF AMONG THE PORTFOLIO OF PLACES THAT YOU CAN RENT WITHIN THE CITY OF BOSTON.

IF YOU'RE TRYING TO HAVE A PARTY OR A WEDDING OR SOME OTHER KIND OF EVENT, AND I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING FORWARD SOME DIRECTION, SOME BUDGET DIRECTION, ASKING OUR STAFF TO DO SOME WORK, EVALUATING WHAT IT WOULD COST TO W WHY THAT DECISION WAS MADE AND WHAT IT WOULD COST TO MAKE THE CHANGES OR RENOVATIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE PLACES TO BE USED AS VENUES.

AGAIN, JUST THINKING ABOUT REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS WHERE WE KNOW FUNDING IS GOING TO BE TIGHT FOR DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROGRAMS. AND THEN LASTLY, I WOULD JUST REQUEST IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT OUR PROCESS IS GOING TO BE LIKE NEXT WEEK FOR OUR BUDGET SESSION, SO THAT WE CAN GET A CLEAR SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE UP ITEMS. UH, UM, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE UP POTENTIAL REVENUE GENERATING ITEMS FIRST SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE AGREEMENT ON, AND WE KNOW WHAT MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND, BUT I GUESS THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR THE COUNCIL AND I HOPE WE CAN HAVE IT TODAY.

IT HELPS US ORGANIZE OUR MATERIALS.

I THINK IF WE KNOW THE ORDER IN WHICH WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THINGS UP AND KIND OF WHAT STAFF ARE GOING TO DO, AND JUST TALKING THROUGH THAT, EVEN IF WE JUST DO IT BRIEFLY WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.

MY PRETEND, UH, TWO THINGS, ONE, I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT I'M STILL INTERESTED IN HAVING A SHORT EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THE BUDGET REVENUE.

I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO THE BUDGET.

UM, I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT TO DO THAT TODAY SO THAT WE CAN GO OUT, UM, THINKING ABOUT, DO THAT.

AND THEN, UM, WE GOT THE PC RECOMMENDATIONS ROUGHLY THIS MORNING OR LAST NIGHT FOR ITEM THREE.

UM, SO I WOULD SUGGEST, SO ITEM TWO, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE UP BECAUSE WE HAD

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THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE POSTPONE, UM, ITEM THREE TO NEXT WEEK AND WE CAN DECIDE HOW WE PROCEED ONCE WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, UM, TOMORROW AND WHATNOT TO DIGEST WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROPOSED AND TO CONNECT WITH PART ON THAT.

SO I WOULD MOVE, MOVE TO POSTPONE, UM, THREE TO NEXT WEEK.

UH, IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO POSTPONING THIS ITEM TILL NEXT WEEK HEARING? NO OBJECTION.

WE'RE GOING TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER THREE TILL NEXT WEEK.

WE'LL HAVE A HEARING AND GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON THAT DAY, BECAUSE IT WILL BE NOTICED FOR POSSIBLE ACTION.

I APPRECIATE YOU DESCRIBING, AND IN TERMS OF LET'S FIGURE OUT WHETHER WE'RE READY TO DO IT NEXT WEEK, BASED ON THE WORKLOAD AND THE LIKE, UH, CERTAINLY IT SHOULD COME BACK TO US NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 1ST, BUT LET'S TALK NEXT WEEK ABOUT WHETHER WE HANDLE IT NEXT WEEK OR WHETHER WE PUT IT OFF UNTIL THEN POSTPONE UNTIL THE 17TH.

NUMBER TWO IS WITHDRAWN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT.

THREE IS BEING POSTPONED COLLEAGUES, UH, UM, OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO DAYLIGHT OR QUESTIONS TO ASK.

THAT'S PROBABLY TOTAL.

I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE GENERALLY FOLLOW THE KIND OF PROCESS WE'VE DONE, WHERE WE BREAK IT INTO THREE THINGS.

WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND OR WHERE WE WANT TO GIVE DIRECTION TO AND, AND WHERE WE FIND REVENUE.

I THINK WE MAY HAVE A THRESHOLD QUESTION WITH RESPECT TO THE BASE BUDGET.

LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PLACE WE WOULD START SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT BASE A BUDGET PROBABLY WHEN WE GO THROUGH IT, UH, WE'LL DO IT THE WAY WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST IS WE'LL SEE WHAT THINGS HAVE KIND OF A CRITICAL MASS OF PEOPLE BEHIND THEM.

UH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE DON'T ACTUALLY MAKE FINAL DECISIONS UNTIL THE VERY END.

SO PEOPLE CAN VOTE TO SAY, I WANT THIS TO BE AMONG THE FINAL THINGS WE TALK ABOUT, EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THOSE THINGS TO BE PART OF WHAT'S IN THE FINAL, BUT BEING ABLE TO, TO, TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE IN PLAY OR WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, UH, WE, WE TRY TO, TO, TO DO SO WE'LL DO IT THAT SAME KIND OF, OF WAY, UH, CAUSE OUR POOL.

AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK IN THE PAST.

ONE OF OUR, UM, STAFF HAS HELPED US WITH A SPREADSHEET TO KIND OF HAVE A RUNNING TOTAL.

AND I THINK ORIGINALLY, UM, IT WAS OUR BUDGET STAFF THAT DID THAT, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE OF OUR FOLKS WAS DOING IT AT ANY RATE, WHOEVER HAS THE BANDWIDTH TO HANDLE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE, I THINK STAFF'S GOING TO CATER.

WE ASKED THEM AT OUR WORK SESSION, IF THEY WOULD DO THAT.

AND THEY WILL, UM, THE WORKS, THE BUDGET SHEET THEY'RE GOING TO DO THOUGH, IS GOING TO BE AN INTERNAL FACING SPREADSHEET AS OPPOSED TO AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET.

SO IF WE WANT TO PUBLISH IT PUBLICLY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PRINT IT AND POST IT IN THE MORNING.

AND EVERY, WHEN WE TAKE A LUNCH BREAK AND MAYBE AT THE END OF THE, AND THAT'LL BE A RUNNING TOTAL AS WE AMEND OR CHANGE OR SHIFT MONIES AROUND, IT'LL GO LIVE.

UH, CAN I START OVER THERE IN THE MAYOR PRO TIME, MARY, YOU, YOU IDENTIFIED THOSE THREE ELEMENTS.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

CAN WE START WITH THE REVENUE, ANY REVENUE IDEAS, JUST SO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH SURE.

WE'LL DO THE BASE BUDGET FIRST WE'LL THEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE REVENUE ITEMS AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE SPENDING ITEMS AND WE'LL CONCLUDE WITH THE DIRECTION.

UM, APRIL 10, UM, AS I PREPARE MY, UM, THE CMO BUDGET WRITER, UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT STAFF ARE PUTTING, IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME THAT THE FEES FOR OSIMO ARE IN THERE.

CAN YOU, UM, CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE PART OF YOUR AMENDMENTS CONFIRM WHAT I'M SORRY.

THEN HERE, THE OCM FEES WERE NOT, I DIDN'T SEE THEM IN THE BUDGET, BUT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVED UNDER EMS OR MAYBE THEY'RE UNDER EMS AND UNDERSTAND, AND THEY GET PUT IN, THEY WERE, THEY WERE REMOVED FROM A STANDALONE OSIMO FEE SCHEDULE.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET PUT BACK INTO EMS FEE SCHEDULED AS THIS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE TAKING CARE OF.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON.

THANK YOU, MAN.

I APPRECIATE IT.

UM, SO I'M, I JUST HAVE THE TWO QUESTIONS, UM, OR I'M SORRY, NOT QUESTIONS AT ALL.

UH, I'M SORT OF LAID OUT MY STUFF AS WELL.

SO WE UNANIMOUSLY PASSED, UM, UH, A RESOLUTION AROUND HIS STORE GUIDE, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION ITEM.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M BRINGING FORWARD, AS YOU ALL KNOW, UH, PUT IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD TO PROPOSE AN AMENDMENT TO THE FEE SCHEDULE, TO, UM, ONE MAINTAIN THE CURRENT, UH, FISCAL YEAR 22 FEE AMOUNT FOR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES FOR THE DURATION OF FISCAL YEAR 23, AND THEN TWO TO ALLOCATE THAT $160,000 IN ONE TIME FUNDS TO THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 22

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AND 23, UM, BUDGET.

THEY NEED THAT TO IMPLEMENT PHASE TWO OF THE EQUITY-BASED HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLAN.

UM, I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN TOBO POOL AND ANDREA FOR OFFERING TO SUPPORT, UM, ON THIS.

SO WE CAN FINISH AND EXECUTE ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS PUT IN ON THE PLAN SO FAR.

UM, YOU COULD ALSO SAY THAT I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS PUT INTO THE BASE BUDGET TO INCLUDE FUNDING FOR A FAIR AMOUNT OF CANCELS, UH, PREVIOUSLY PASSED RESOLUTIONS.

IT, IT CERTAINLY MAKES ALL OF OUR JOBS EASIER.

UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONVERSATION.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM, BUT I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE BOTH PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I DON'T REMEMBER HARPER MADISON, AND I'D LIKE TO JOIN YOU IN THAT, UH, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMPLETING THE PHASE TWO OF THE, UH, EAST SIDE PLAN EQUITY PLAN.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MEDICINE.

THANKS FOR INVITING ME TO BE ON, ON THE HISTORIC STUDY.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF EMAIL ASKING FOR A HIGHER AMOUNT.

AND I KNOW FROM CONVERSATIONS FOR MY STEPS CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR STAFF, WHY THE AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORWARD IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT AND I SUPPORT THAT.

I SUPPORT YOUR PROPOSAL.

SO, BUT I JUST WONDERED IF, IF I COULD INVITE YOU TO SORT OF EXPLAIN IN CASE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE ADVOCATED FOR THAT ARE, ARE LISTENING.

WHY THE, WHY THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE? ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE UP, UM, THE UNMET NEED ESSENTIALLY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL ASK OF A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

PART OF IT WAS MET.

THE OTHER PART WAS NOT, WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO MAKE A BET THAT UNMET NEED, UM, THERE'S $160,000 FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT CONSULTANT.

UM, THAT'S FOR 12 COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS AND THAT PAYS FOR WORKING GROUP MEMBERS AND MARKETING TO, TO REACH REALLY A BROADER AUDIENCE.

UH, WE ALL KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS THAT EVERYBODY'S, UM, CONTRIBUTIONS ARE CONSIDERED TO THESE CONVERSATIONS AND THEN HONORING $40,000 FOR A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE AND THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE TO MANAGE, UM, THE EXECUTION STRATEGY AND REALLY ROLL OUT THE PLAN.

UM, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE CURRENTLY HAS TWO FTE VACANCIES.

UM, THEREFORE WE ARE NOT REQUESTING FUNDS FOR AN ADDITIONAL FTE TO BE ALLOCATED AT THIS TIME.

I THINK LONG STORY SHORT, IF FOLKS ARE ASKING WHY NOT MORE, UM, IT REALLY JUST COMES DOWN TO TRYING TO MAKE THE MOST OF OUR FINITE RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND CERTAINLY ANYBODY LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING TODAY, UH, YOU REALIZE THAT, THAT THERE ARE SO MANY NEEDS AND THAT YOU KNOW, OF THE 10 OF US, WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.

AND A PART OF OUR OBLIGATION, I THINK TO, TO OUR CITY, UM, CITY WIDE AND OUTSIDE OF OUR DISTRICTS IS TO, IS TO BRING AS MUCH GOOD AS WE CAN WITH OUR FINITE RESOURCES.

I LOVE THE DOOR.

THAT'S CLOSED.

THERE'S FLIES IN HERE, ALL OF A SUDDEN ALL RIGHT.

WE SHOULD CLOSE THE DOORS IN HERE TOO.

UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THEN LET'S GO INTO EXECUTIVE

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SESSION.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO TAKE UP TWO ITEMS PURSUANT TO 5, 5, 1 0 7, 1 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO ITEM FOUR, BUDGET MATTERS, ITEM FIVE, THE NOVEMBER, UH, 8 20 22 ELECTION.

WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'RE GOING TO GO, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS REMOTELY.

UH, SO I'LL SEE YOU ALL HERE ON THE, UM, UH, ON THE COMPUTERS.

IT IS FOUR 30 RIGHT NOW.

LET'S, LET'S GATHER TOGETHER AGAIN AT FOUR 40.

THEY'LL GIVE PEOPLE A QUICK BREAK, BUT AT 20 TIL AS, PLEASE TRY TO MAKE THAT SO WE CAN MOVE ALONG.

SEE WHAT 20 TIL WE ARE.

WE'RE ABOUT TO CLOSE WE'RE OUT OF CLOSED SESSION IN CLOSED SESSION, WE DISCUSS LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE.

UH, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THIS, UH, BUDGET WORK SESSION HERE ON AUGUST 11TH, 2022.

THE TIME IS 5 31.