Oct 13, 2020 City Council Work Session

AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND WE ARE ESTABLISHING A, UH, COVID-19 VACCINE PROGRAM PLAN.

AND GOOD MORNING COUNSEL, UH, AS THE MAYOR SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ALL THE MORE REASON TO STAY VIGILANT.

THIS IS A COMMUNITY WIDE EFFORT TO COMBAT THIS VIRUS.

AND WE HAVE BEEN, UH, SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE THOSE PRACTICES.

UH, WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE, UH, STAFF TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE WORKING TIRELESSLY TO NAVIGATE OUR WAY THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC.

UM, BUT IT DOES TAKE ALL OF US AND WE'VE ALWAYS APPRECIATED THE SUPPORT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THIS TITUS.

AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED, WE'LL HAVE THREE PARTS OF THEIR COVID BRIEFING.

UH, THIS MORNING, FIRST WE'LL HEAR FROM DIRECTOR HAYDEN, THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM DR. SCOTT, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION FROM OUR AIRPORT EXECUTIVES TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE FACILITY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DIRECTOR HAYDEN.

GOOD MORNING.

THANK YOU, SPENCER.

UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST START OUT BY, UM, TALKING ABOUT OUR EPIDEMIOLOGISTS AND OUR SURVEILLANCE TEAM.

UM, THAT TEAM REALLY, REALLY, UM, IS A HUGE BACKBONE OF THIS RESPONSE.

UM, THAT TEAM IS REALLY SPINNING, UM, THEIR TIME NOW REALLY PROVIDING THE SUPPORT TO SCHOOLS, UM, HIGHER EDUCATION, OUR LONGTERM CARE AND OUR, UM, NON NURSING HOME SITES.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR THIS TEAM TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOLS, UM, TO PROVIDE THIS ADDITIONAL, UM, NURSING AND EPIDEMIOLOGISTS, UM, SERVICES WITH THE CASES BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UM, WE CAN EXPECT WHENEVER, UM, MORE FOLKS ARE AT A FACILITY WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE MORE, UM, UM, POSITIVE CASES.

SO OUR STAFF ARE CONVENED CONTINUING TO IN THE INVESTIGATIONS AND THEY ARE PROVIDING THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

UM, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU HAVE HEARD SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE VACCINE AND, UM, WE JUST WANT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION WITH YOU THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS.

UM, THE DEPARTMENT IS, UM, REACHING OUT TO HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS

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AND, UM, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS, IS THAT WE'RE, THIS TEAM WILL DEVELOP A PLAN TO DISTRIBUTE THE, UM, VACCINE.

OUR FIRST MEETING IS GOING TO BE, UM, NEXT FRIDAY.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH THIS TEAM, WE MUST, UM, IDENTIFY PRIORITY POPULATIONS AND LOOK AT WAYS TO, UM, DISTRIBUTE THE VACCINE AND, UM, LOOK AT OUR, UM, MESSAGING AND ENGAGEMENT.

AND SO AS WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT COALITION, UM, WE HAVE A LARGE GROUP OF FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WITH US, UM, FROM GRASSROOTS.

UM, FOLKS ARE REPRESENTED AS WELL AS, UM, HEALTHCARE ORGANIZATION AND, UM, CITY AND COUNTY FOLKS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THOSE MEETINGS, ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED, THE INITIAL TIMELINE, UM, SHOWS THAT BETWEEN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WE CAN EXPECT TO, TO HAVE THE VACCINE.

NOW I WILL KIND OF GIVE A CAVEAT THAT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, AND THAT'S WHAT THE STATE AS, UM, JUST REMINDED US IS THAT THAT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE, BUT THAT'S THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AS OF TODAY.

YAY.

AND SO FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, UM, THAT VACCINE IS, UM, I'M SLATED TO GO OUT TO RESPOND THERE'S FIRST RESPONDERS AND HEALTHCARE STAFF.

AND SO WHAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS REALLY, REALLY, UM, UM, HAS REALLY PUSHED OUT AND THE DEPARTMENT HAS PUSHED OUT AS WELL TO PARTNERS IS, UM, THE PROCESS FOR THEM TO, IN ROLE TO PROVIDE VACCINES TO THEIR HEALTHCARE STAFF.

UM, AND WE'VE ALSO SENT IT OUT INTERNALLY TO, UM, OUR, UM, EMS DEPARTMENT AS WELL.

AND SO, UM, KNOWING THAT THAT IS THE INITIAL TARGET FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, UM, THEN WE SHIFT TO JANUARY THROUGH JULY AND SO MORE VACCINE WILL BE AVAILABLE.

AND, UM, AND THAT IS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO USE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BASED ON DATA AND THE COALITION RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN WE WILL PROVIDE, UM, MORE VACCINE JANUARY THROUGH JULY.

AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT INITIALLY, UM, IT IS GOING TO BE HOW WE WERE WITH TESTING.

AS YOU RECALL, WE DID NOT RECEIVE A LOT OF TESTING INITIALLY AND AS TIME WENT ON, MORE TESTING HAS BECOME AVAILABLE.

AND SO, UM, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UM, ALL OF THE VACCINE PROVIDERS THAT HAVE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE, UM, AND THEY ARE READY TO PROVIDE, UM, THE, THE VACCINE, UM, AS WELL AS WE ARE, UM, WITH THE TESTING, WE CAN TO HAVE OUR, UM, SOME SITES, DOVE SPRINGS, GIVENS, ONE TOP THOSE AND WALNUT CREEK COMMUNITIES.

AND WE HAVE OUR, UM, ST JOHN SITE AVAILABLE JUST AS A REMINDER.

UM, WE ARE STILL DOING, UM, VISITS AT HOME.

SO IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE, UM, THAT MAY NEED THAT ACCESS, I HAVE A FLYER THAT I CAN SEND YOU AND PLEASE DISTRIBUTE THAT FLYER BECAUSE WE, WE, WE WANT THAT SERVICE TO BOOK PROPOSAL FOR PEOPLE TO UTILIZE THAT SERVICE, UM, WITH OUR LONGTERM CARE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM, OUR FOLKS THAT ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE LONGTERM CARE, OUR STAFF ARE REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE IN THE LAST DAYS THERE'S ONLY BEEN ABOUT SEVEN CASES IN LONGTERM CARE.

AND SO OUR STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATORS THAT WE WORK WITH HAVE BEEN VERY EXCITED.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONTINUING TO PROVIDE TESTS.

UM, OUR DASHBOARD IS UP, BUT, UM, WE, WE PROVIDED OVER 8,667 TESTS.

AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE FACILITIES ARE RECEIVING, UM, VISITORS AND, UM, IT IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

UM, ACCORDING TO WHAT THE, UM, THE, UM, UH, TESTING FREQUENCY FOR NURSING HOMES WILL BE FOR TRAVIS COUNTY IS ONE TIME A WEEK.

AND SO WHENEVER INDIVIDUALS, UM, ARE GOING TO THAT LOCATION, THEY MUST, UM, SHOW THAT THEY, UM, HAVE TAKEN A COVID TEST AND SHARE THAT WITH THE STAFF THERE.

AND MOST OF THEM HAVE PUT IN PLACE OPERATIONS IN ORDER TO DO THAT WITH OUR HOMELESS UPDATE.

UM, WE'RE CONTINUING TO, UM, WORK IN OUR EATING

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APART TOGETHER PROGRAM, UM, AS WELL AS OUR, UM, OUR RESPONSE FOR BASIC NEEDS, UM, ON THURSDAY'S AGENDA IS A CONTRACT WITH GOOD WORK AUSTIN.

AND THAT IS A PART OF OUR EAT INITIATIVE WITH OUR, UM, PROTECTIVE LODGES.

WE HAVE ABOUT 320, UM, GUESTS THAT ARE THERE, AND, UM, WE WILL BE PROVIDING, UM, MOVE VACCINES TO THE PROTECTIVE, UM, LODGE GUESTS.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, BEFORE THE DEADLINE STAFF, UH, COORDINATED, UM, TO ALLOW, UH, FOLKS TO COME IN, TO REGISTER FOLKS TO VOTE, UH, AT THOSE LOCATIONS TO, UH, THE LAST BIT OF GOOD NEWS ABOUT OUR HOMELESS AND PROLOGIS, I AM SO EXCITED TO SAY THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOUND 42 INDIVIDUALS HAVE EXITED THE PROTECTIVE LODGES TO PERMANENT HOUSING.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED, UM, ABOUT THE, THE INDIVIDUALS MOVING INTO THEIR PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

WE'RE CONTINUING WITH OUR, UM, PPE DRY AND, UM, OVER 5,300 HOUSEHOLDS HAVE RECEIVED OVER 21,000 MASS AND OVER 6,500 BOTTLES OF HAND SANITIZER.

UM, WE ARE WORKING WITH, UM, HAKA TO HOST SOME, UM, DISTRIBUTION EVENTS TO TARGET SENIORS AND OTHER HIGH RISK POPULATIONS.

AND I WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION TO YOU AT A LATER TIME ABOUT THAT, UM, WITH OUR RISE 2.0, UM, THAT PROCESS IS STILL UNDERWAY.

WE HAVE SOME EARLY, UM, UM, DATA, UM, FROM THAT PROCESS, THEY RECEIVED OVER 91,000, UM, APPLICATIONS, WHICH WAS SIGNIFICANT.

AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, THEY, UM, HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS, UM, TO SELECT, UM, THE FOLKS THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BE ELIGIBLE.

AND THEN THERE WAS A RANDOM SELECTION PROCESS.

UM, AND SO, UH, AS OF TODAY, UM, ACCORDING TO THE DATA I HAVE OVER 2000 APPLICATIONS WERE PROCESSED, WE WILL BE COMPLETING A, UM, SENDING OUT A REPORT TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT PROCESS, OUR CHILDCARE SITES, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTY, BUT WE DO HAVE SIX FOCUS, UM, ZIP CODES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO ENSURE THAT, UM, OUR CHILDCARE FACILITIES, UM, HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED THROUGHOUT THIS, UM, RESPONSE THAT, UM, COMPLETES MY REPORT.

UM, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO DR.

SCOTT.

THANKS, STEPHANIE.

AND THANK YOU, SPENCER.

UM, I'LL ASK AB TO PULL UP MY SLIDES, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE COUNCIL ON OUR COVID-19 RESPONSE.

HERE WE GO.

UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS AN UPDATE OF OUR NEW CONFIRMED CASES IN TRAVIS COUNTY.

UH, ONCE AGAIN, THE YELLOW LINE IS A SEVEN DAY MOVING AVERAGE, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD BEEN ON A DECLINE, UH, THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS, WE'VE SEEN AN INCREASE IN CASES YESTERDAY, WE REPORTED 133 CASES, WHICH BROUGHT OUR MOVING AVERAGE BACK UP TO 77.

UH, SO AGAIN, A COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE'S A FEW DAYS OF INCREASE.

UH, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT THIS WEEK LOOKS LIKE.

CERTAINLY WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO SAY AN ONGOING DECREASE.

UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE PROJECTIONS FROM UT AND HOW THEY'VE CHANGED, AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE ON THE SUBSEQUENT SLIDES.

THE STATE OF TEXAS, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL CITIES, WHICH ARE CERTAINLY IN AN UPWARD TREND PATTERN, AND WE ARE CERTAINLY CONCERNED THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE AS WELL.

THIS IS A GRAPH, A UPDATE OF OUR NEW ADMISSIONS, AGAIN, UH, THE YELLOW SHOWING THE SEVEN DAY MOVING AVERAGE.

UH, YESTERDAY WE REPORTED 10 ADMISSIONS, WHICH BROUGHT OUR MOVING AVERAGE TO 15.

UH, THIS HAS BEEN, AS THE MAYOR SAID IN HIS OPENING STATEMENT, OSCILLATING BETWEEN 12 AND 15 FOR A MONTH NOW, UH, WE'VE HIT 12, THREE TIMES AND THREE TIMES.

WE'VE, WE'VE BOUNCED UP TO, TO THE 15 MARK AGAIN.

UH, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT CLEAR YET IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OFFER COLLATE OR IF THIS IS A NEW TREND, AS WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS AROUND

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AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR ADMISSIONS IN, UH, WHERE WE WERE, UH, BACK IN, IN JUNE, WE WERE AT THE SAME STAGE AND THEN THREE WEEKS LATER WHEN WE WERE IN A CRISIS STAGE.

SO AGAIN, AS, AS WE ARE, HAVE BEEN TAKING MORE RISKS, WE'VE SEEN THINGS MAINTAIN RELATIVELY STEADY, ALSO ENDING A BIT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT TIPPING THE BALANCE TOO FAR AND ENTERING THAT, THAT HOCKEY STICK APPEARANCE AGAIN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS TO ENSURE THAT, THAT IF THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, THAT WE SCALE BACK AGAIN, IN TERMS OF RISKS, UH, WITH OUR PRIORITIES BEING, KEEPING OUR SCHOOLS OPEN.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROJECTIONS FROM UT, UH, UT IS PROJECTING THAT THERE'S ABOUT A 66% CHANCE THAT THE EPIDEMIC IS GROWING RIGHT NOW IN TRAVIS COUNTY.

AND THEN IN THE FIVE COUNTY MSA.

NOW THEIR PROJECTIONS FOR NOVEMBER 1ST IN RELATION TO ADMISSIONS IS THAT THAT SEVEN DAY MOVING AVERAGE WILL GO FROM 15 TO 28, WHICH CERTAINLY SHOULD GIVE US SOME PAUSE RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN, WE ARE FOCUSING ON THE MASKING IN THE DISTANCING AND THE PERSONAL HYGIENE, UH, AS, AS THE WAY THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP THINGS FLAT.

IF WE RELAX THOSE PROTECTIVE MEASURES, WE ARE GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE.

AND AGAIN, AS WE'VE JUST OPENED AISD SCHOOLS, DELL VALLEY SCHOOLS THIS WEEK, UM, AS WE'VE SEEN RESTAURANTS OPEN A BIT MORE, WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE STAYING VIGILANT AS A COMMUNITY WHEN WE'RE OUTSIDE OF OUR HOME TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN KEEP THIS BRUNT OF DISEASE UNDER CONTROL.

THIS IS AN UPDATE OF OUR HOSPITAL DATA.

SO THE BLUE IS SHOWING OUR HOSPITAL BEDS BEING UTILIZED FOR COVID-19 PATIENTS, THE ORANGES ICU BEDS, AND THE GRAY IS VENTILATORS BEING USED.

UH, THE HOSPITALIZATIONS YESTERDAY WERE REPORTED AT 88, WHICH IS A, IT GIVES US A MOVING AVERAGE OF 84.

UH, THIS NUMBER HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER THE PAST SEVEN DAYS, ICU BEDS, 32 REPORT YESTERDAY WITH A MOVING AVERAGE OF 28.

UH, THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER THE PAST 10 DAYS AND VENTILATORS BEING USED 22 WITH A MOVING AVERAGE OF 18.

THAT NUMBER HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER THE PAST WEEK.

SO AGAIN, WHILE OUR HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE NEW ADMISSIONS HAVE BEEN OSCILLATING A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE AT LEAST A WEEK.

AND IN TERMS OF ICU BEDS, 10 DAYS OF STEADY INCREASES IN TERMS OF THOSE BEDS BEING UTILIZED.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROJECTIONS FOR NOVEMBER 1ST FOR HOSPITALIZATIONS, THAT MOVING AVERAGE IS PROJECTED RIGHT NOW TO MOVE FROM 84, WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS TO 130 BY NOVEMBER 1ST ICU MOVING FROM 28 TODAY TO 46, UH, ON NOVEMBER 1ST.

SO AGAIN, THE, THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE'VE SEEN THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS FROM THE UT MODELING HAS BEEN RELATIVELY FLAT THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER INTO THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER.

UH, NOW WE'RE SEEING IT PROJECTED TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS NOT FORECASTING BECAUSE WE CAN STILL CHANGE THE FORECAST.

IF WE ENGAGE IN THAT PROTECTIVE BEHAVIOR, IF WE CONTINUE TO MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCE AND, AND PAY ATTENTION TO THAT PERSONAL HYGIENE, WE CAN FLATTEN UP THOSE PROJECTIONS AGAIN, TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR SCHOOLS OPEN AND KEEP OUR BUSINESSES OPEN AS WELL.

THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT OF COVID-19 ON THESE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, UH, REMAINS VERY CLEAR.

I'M ERIN COUNCIL IS AN UPDATE OF OUR, UH, RADAR GRAPH OF HOSPITALIZATIONS BY RACE AND ETHNICITY, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, OR SORRY, THIS WEEK WE HAVE, UH, OUR GREEN LINE, WHICH REPRESENTS OUR LATIN X COMMUNITY AT 50% OF TOTAL HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE NEW, NEW ADMISSIONS FOR THE PAST WEEK.

OUR GRAY LINE, UH, DOWN CLOSER TO THE BOTTOM REPRESENTS OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, UH, WHICH REPRESENTED 12.5% OF OUR ADMISSIONS OVER THE PAST WEEK.

AGAIN, UH, BOTH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE OVERREPRESENTED IN TERMS OF, OF HOSPITALIZATIONS, UH, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE IMPACT,

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SO COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR ASKS FOR, UH, IF WE COULD REPRESENT THIS DATA A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, AND THAT'S, UH, THE SLIDE THAT I'M SHOWING YOU NOW, UH, WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS, IS THE TOTAL HOSPITALIZATIONS A WEEK OVER WEEK.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY FLAT, UH, THE, THE COLORED BARS SHOW THE SAME THING AS THE LAST SLIDE, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN OVERALL, UH, NUMBER OF THE INDIVIDUALS HOSPITALIZED EACH WEEK.

UH, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY STEADY IN TERMS OF, OF THE HOSPITALIZATIONS, UH, BY VARIOUS RACE AND ETHNICITIES OF THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS.

NOW, YOU WILL SAY, HOWEVER THAT, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR PERCENTAGE OR NUMBER OF, OF INDIVIDUALS IN THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY THAT WERE HOSPITALIZED.

UM, THIS GRAPH IS NOT GOING TO SHOW THE TOTAL HOSPITALIZATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A CLASSIFICATION FOR RACE OR ETHNICITY.

THIS IS AN UPDATE OF OUR HOSPITALIZATIONS BY AGE GROUP.

UH, WE DID SEE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN OUR, UH, HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS IN THE 70 TO 79 AND 80 PLUS AGE GROUP.

UH, THEY HAD A 68%, OR THEY REPRESENTED 68 OR 68% INCREASE COMPARED TO LAST WEEK IN TERMS OF, OF HOSPITALIZATIONS.

UH, SO IN PARTICULAR THAT, UH, 80 PLUS GROUP, UH, HAD A SHARP INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF, OF NEW ADMISSIONS TO THE HOSPITAL.

AGAIN, WHEN WE SEE THESE INCREASES IN OLDER AGE GROUPS, UNFORTUNATELY THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE INCREASED, UH, DEATHS ASSOCIATED WITH COVID-19 IN THE COMING WEEKS AS THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER RISK OF MORTALITY FROM COVID-19.

UH, ADDITIONALLY, YOU SEE THAT THE 10 TO 19 AGE GROUP IN GRAY THIRD FROM THE BOTTOM ALSO HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE LAST WEEK.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, SIMILAR TO OUR, OUR RACE AND ETHNICITY GRAPHS THAT WE ORGANIZE THESE BY, UH, TOTAL ADMISSIONS WEEK OVER WEEK.

SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, WE'VE HAD RELATIVELY STEADY HOSPITALIZATIONS OVER THE PAST FIVE WEEKS, AROUND 110 WEEK OVER WEEK.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, BETWEEN LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEK, OUR ADMISSIONS FOR THAT 80 PLUS ADRIAN WENT FROM SEVEN TO 15.

UH, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT, UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE GRAPH IN THE GRAY LAST WEEK, WE HAD ONE ADMISSION IN THAT 10 TO 19 AGE GROUP, UH, AND, UM, THIS PAST WEEK, OCTOBER FIVE TO 11 FIVE ADMISSIONS.

UH, SO AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REPORT THESE, UM, AND ENSURE THAT THAT, UH, THESE ARE ALSO AVAILABLE PUBLICLY VIA OUR DASHBOARD.

COMMUNITY A WEEK 40 ONE'S ABOUT 7.1%.

THIS IS AN UPDATE OF OUR POSITIVITY BY WEEK.

UH, LAST WEEK, WEEK 39 WERE REPORTED AT 3.8%.

THAT'S ACTUALLY INCREASED WITH ADDITIONAL DATA TO 4.0%.

UH, THE NEW WEEK THAT WE'RE REPORTING WEEK 44.0% ALSO, UH, SO RELATIVELY FLAT, UH, WE DO HAVE A TEAM WORKING ALONG WITH MICROSOFT.

UH, SO WE ANTICIPATE A TRANSITION TO A NEW DATA SET FOR NEXT WEEK'S PRESENTATION, WHICH MAY REFINE THESE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT BASED UPON, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL DATA CLEANING AND, AND, UH, UH, ELIMINATION OF DUPLICATE RECORDS.

UH, SO I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT NEXT WEEK, BUT IN TERMS OF POSITIVITY RATE, THINGS APPEAR FAIRLY STEADY AT THIS STAGE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE WE'LL LOOK AT THAT SAME DATA SET, BROKEN DOWN BY RACE AND ETHNICITY.

UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M DISPLAYING HERE WITH THE RED DOTTED LINE THAT REPRESENT THAT 5% MARK.

UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, I'VE ALSO INCLUDED WEEK 41 ON HERE.

AGAIN, WE ONLY HAVE PARTIAL DATA FOR WEEK 41 ABOUT HALF THE DATA, UH, DATA POINTS WE HAVE FOR THE OTHER WEEK.

SO A WEEK 41 IN PARTICULAR IS GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

UH, YOU CAN SAY THAT WE'VE HAD ONGOING DECREASES IN OUR, UH, PERCENT POSITIVITY IN OUR, IN THE GOLD BAR, WHICH IS OUR LATIN X

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UH, WE HAVE SEEN INCREASES WEEK OVER WEEK IN OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, UH, WITH WEEK 41, RIGHT NOW SHOWING A 5.4% POSITIVITY RATE.

UH, AGAIN, THOSE NUMBERS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE, UH, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO, TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THOSE AND REPORT ON THOSE AS WELL.

UH, AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO GET ALL OF OUR RACE AND ETHNICITIES BELOW 5%.

IDEALLY WE AS A COMMUNITY AND ACROSS OUR RACE AND ETHNICITY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IT BELOW 3%.

UH, SO WE CONTINUE THOSE EFFORTS THAT, UH, DIRECTOR HAYDEN MENTIONED, UH, FOCUSING ON OUR COMMUNITIES OF COLOR TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO PUSH DOWN THIS POSITIVITY.

RIGHT? NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE SAME DATA EXCEPT BROKEN DOWN BY AGE GROUP.

UH, THAT GOLD BAR, UH, IS ONE THAT WE FOCUSED ON IN THE PAST AT 10 TO 19 AGE GROUP, WHICH WE HAD BEEN SEEING, UH, PROGRESSIVE DECLINES AND POSITIVITY.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR CURRENT DATA WEEK 41 SHOWS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN POSITIVITY IN THIS GROUP.

UM, AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO SEEN SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN OUR 80 PLUS AGE GROUP, WHICH ARE REPRESENTED BY THE PINK BAR ON THE FAR RIGHT.

UH, SO AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THESE SITUATIONS, UH, AND CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE OUR, OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR PARENTS TO, UH, GET THOSE INDIVIDUALS TESTED IN THAT 10 TO 19 AGE GROUP.

UH, WE'VE ALSO THEM, PARTICULARLY INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, UH, LIKE FOOTBALL AND BAND CHEERLEADING, AND OTHER, UH, ACTIVITIES, UH, TO CONSIDER PROACTIVE TESTING.

EVEN IF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE ASYMPTOMATIC BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED RISK IN THOSE GROUPS, UH, IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO GET TESTED, EVEN IF THEY'RE ASYMPTOMATIC TO HELP CONTROL THE SPREAD.

UH, AGAIN, WE ARE AWAITING A WEEKLY REPORT TODAY REGARDING OUR SCHOOL SITUATION AND CLUSTERS ASSOCIATED WITH SCHOOLS.

UM, WE EXPECT TO PRESENT THOSE TOMORROW TO THE MEDIA.

UH, THE DATA THAT I HAVE IN HAND NOW IS THAT THE PATTERN HAS CONTINUED, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, THOSE OUTBREAKS ARE SMALL CLUSTERS BEING ASSOCIATED WITH EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AND SOCIAL GATHERINGS.

UH, NO, WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE IN HAND RIGHT NOW OF ANY, UH, SIGNIFICANT SPREAD OR CLUSTERS RELATED TO CLASSROOM ACTIVITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, AS DIRECTOR HAYDEN MENTIONED EARLIER, NOW THIS IS AN UPDATE OF OUR LONGTERM CARE FACILITY DASHBOARD, WHICH IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AND AUSTIN, TEXAS.GOV FORWARD SLASH COVID-19, UH, SEVEN CASES IN THE PAST 14 DAYS, UH, WHICH IS, IS FANTASTIC.

OUR, UH, OUR STRIKE TEAM, OUR NURSING HOMES, OUR LONGTERM CARE FACILITIES ARE REALLY DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OF PREVENTING SPREAD IN THOSE FACILITIES.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PARTNERS WORKING ON THIS, INCLUDING UNIVER UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, UH, IN THEIR RESEARCH GROUP.

UH, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THIS TREND CONTINUES.

I WILL REMIND COUNCIL AND REMIND THE COMMUNITY THAT OUR ELDERS ARE AT RISK, PARTICULARLY THOSE OVER THE AGE OF 65.

SO IF WE INTEND TO VISIT IN A FACILITY OR IN A HOME, A FAMILY MEMBER, A LOVED ONE, THAT'S IN ONE OF THESE MORE VULNERABLE AGE GROUPS, THEN WE OURSELVES HAVE TO PROTECT THEM.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEHAVING IN A PROTECTIVE WAY IN ADVANCE OF THAT VISITATION.

SO IF YOU WANT TO GO VISIT SOMEBODY IN A NURSING HOME OR LONGTERM CARE FACILITY, OR YOU WANT TO GO SEE A PARENT OR A GRANDPARENT, AND THOSE 14 DAYS PRIOR TO THAT VISIT YOUR RISK TAKING SHOULD BE VERY, VERY LOW.

SO THEN WE CAN ENSURE THAT WE DON'T SPREAD DISEASE TO THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS.

UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT ASYMPTOMATIC SPREAD IS POSSIBLE, MILD, SYMPTOMATIC SPREAD IS POSSIBLE.

UH, SO THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS ACT IN A PROTECTIVE WAY IN ADVANCE OF, OF THOSE VISITS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS A, A SNAPSHOT OF OUR, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, UH, COVID-19 ORDER ENFORCEMENT FROM THE PREVIOUS WEEK.

UH, LAST WEEK, THE TEAM TARGETED (787) 447-8741

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(787) 547-8753 AND SEVEN EIGHT SEVEN FIVE EIGHT.

UH, PRIMARILY BECAUSE THINGS HAVE BEEN AREAS OF SIGNIFICANT ACTIVITY OF COVID-19.

UH, DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, THEY PERFORMED, UH, 1,121 INSPECTIONS.

THEY ISSUED, UH, MORNINGS FOR MASS VIOLATIONS IN 207 CIRCUMSTANCES WITH VIOLATION RATE OF 18% NOW, WHICH IS THE LOWEST IT'S BEEN SINCE THEY'VE STARTED THIS EFFORT, UH, BACK ON EIGHT 28, UH, IN THE PAST, WE'VE BEEN SEEING VIOLATION, UH, BREAKS OF ABOUT 25% OR SO, UH, OVER THOSE WEEKS.

AND SO WE'RE PLEASED THAT THE VIOLATIONS ARE DECREASING AND I HOPE THIS IS AN INDICATION THAT OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUE, CONTINUES TO PRIORITIZE, PROTECTING OUR POPULATION, OUR VULNERABLE INDIVIDUALS.

UH, I KNOW THIS IS A COVID-19 BRIEFING, BUT IT'S FLU SEASON.

SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT.

UH, LUCKILY OUR, UH, INFLUENCE ACTIVITY HAS BEEN LOW.

UH, WE HAD TWO TOTAL POSITIVE INFLUENCE OF TESTS, UH, WITH A POSITIVITY RATE OF 2.1, 3%.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S IT FOLKS HAVEN'T GOTTEN THEIR FLU SHOT YET.

NOW'S THE TIME WE CAN SUPPRESS INFLUENZA.

WE HAVE A VACCINE FOR IT.

UH, THE VACCINE WORKS WELL.

IT'S, IT'S PUBLISHED.

UH, WE'VE SEEN ITS EFFICACY IN THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE THIS YEAR, UH, RELATED TO FLU SEASON AND HISTORIC LOW INFLUENCE IN THE SEASONS, UH, IN THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE.

SO OUR HOPE IS THAT OUR COMMUNITY WILL EMBRACE, UH, THE INFLUENCE OF VACCINATION.

IT IS AVAILABLE THROUGH, UH, AUSTIN PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY CARE PHARMACIES ALL AROUND THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS.

SO PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR HEALTHCARE PROVIDER, PLEASE GO TO A PHARMACY, PLEASE GET YOUR INFLUENCE OF VACCINATION TODAY.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE POSITIVES HERE.

AGAIN, MARIN COUNCIL, WE REMAIN AT STAGE THREE.

UH, YOU KNOW, OUR PROJECTIONS IN PREVIOUS WEEKS HAVE INDICATED THAT WE MAY GO INTO STAGE TWO TERRITORY RIGHT NOW, THE PROJECTION OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS.

UH, IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT THIS IS, UH, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

UH, AGAIN, IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAPPEN.

IT'S A POSSIBLE FOR US TO STILL CHANGE THAT FORECAST.

IF WE ACT IN A PROTECTIVE WAY, UH, WE CONTINUE TO MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCE AND LIMIT THOSE SOCIAL INTERACTIONS.

WHAT THAT ALTERNATIVE BACK TO YOU, SPENCER, FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, DR.

SCOTT AND DIRECTOR HAYDEN.

WHY DON'T WE PAUSE HERE FOR QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR AIRPORT EXECUTIVES COME IN FOR THE FINAL PART OF THIS BRIEFING, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE MAYOR TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS THAT COME FROM THE COUNCIL.

SOUNDS GOOD POINT OUT THAT I HAD, AND I GOT OUR FLU SHOTS, UM, UH, TWO DAYS AGO, UH, IT TOOK US A COMBINED 15 MINUTES TO GET THEM AT THE PHARMACY EASY AND EASY OUT.

UH, AND, UM, WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO THAT JUST TO REEMPHASIZE LAST YEAR, OUR ICU WERE FULL JUST WITH PEOPLE WITH THE FLU.

I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GET THE FLU SHOT ANNUALLY.

THIS IS THE YEAR TO DO THAT.

AND IT'S, AND IT'S JUST REAL IMPORTANT.

LESLIE, THANKS, MAYOR.

AND YEAH, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE FLU SHOT PIECE.

I AM ONE OF THOSE WHO RARELY HAS GOTTEN IT IN THE PAST, BUT THIS YEAR, WELL, AND I ALREADY HAVE OUR APPOINTMENTS TO GO DOWN TO CITY HALL WHEN THE FLU SHOTS ARE BEING OFFERED THERE.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY ON BOARD WITH THE FLU SHOTS THIS YEAR AND HOPEFULLY FOR THE VACCINE ON COVID, UM, WHEN IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE NECESSARY APPROVING ENTITIES.

UM, DR.

S COULD I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU? I'M LOOKING AT THE DESKTOP VERSION OF OUR, UM, DASHBOARD AND I SEE, UM, AND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR WAS RECOVERY DATA.

AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE A, UH, A CHART THAT SHOWS CUMULATIVE CASES WITH ESTIMATED RECOVERIES AND ACTIVE CASES BY DATE, AND THEN RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT TO IT, IT SHOWS A MSA CURRENT HOSPITALIZATION AND ICU.

I WAS WONDERING, COULD WE INCLUDE ON THAT LAST ONE, THE CURRENT HOSPITALIZATION THEN LATER USE, UM, A, A, A, THE DATA THAT SHOWS RECOVERY TO SHOW, UH, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL AND WHO HAVE, UH, WHO ARE NO LONGER AT A CRITICAL AND A CRITICAL PLACE.

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SO COUNCIL MEMBER THERE IS ON THE MAIN DASHBOARD.

THERE'S A GRAPH THAT SHOWS ACTIVE CASES AND RECOVERIES, I'M LOOKING IN, YOU HAVE TO TOGGLE ONE TO THE RIGHT EYE.

THAT'S ON THE ONE, THAT'S THE CUE AND ACTIVE CASES BY DATE DOES THAT? WELL, IT SHOWS TEXAS, YOU HAD SOME WORLD COUNTS.

I'M LOOKING FOR WHERE IT'S, WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIFIC FOCUS JUST ON PEOPLE WHO RECOVERED.

THEY ESTIMATED RECOVERED.

WELL, THERE IS A GRAPH IN THERE THAT DISPLAYS ACTIVE CASES.

UH, I'LL WORK WITH THE TEAM TO SEE IF WE CAN UPDATE THAT, TO MAKE IT CLEAR.

CAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.

I, I WAS THINKING IT WAS IN THERE TOO, BUT IT WASN'T AS EASY.

IT SAYS ESTIMATED RECOVERED, WHICH THAT BIG PURPLE SWAT COVERY DATA TRANSITIONED.

SO MAYBE IF WE COULD JUST GET A LITTLE MORE SPECIFICITY ON THE NUMBERS SO THAT PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND, CAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

I THINK THAT'S A HOPEFUL SIGN.

I HOPE I'M READING THAT.

AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE, THE YELLOW BARS, WHICH ARE THE ACTIVE CASES, RIGHT.

HAVE BEEN RELATIVELY FLAT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD INDICATION.

AND THEN WE CAN MAYBE START TALKING INCLUDING THAT, UH, 15 PEOPLE LEFT THE HOSPITAL TODAY BECAUSE THEY RECOVERED KIND OF THING IN OUR, UH, IN OUR ROLLOUT OF DATA.

YOU BETTER, SORRY.

I, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS THE ENFORCEMENT OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, I SIT, Y'ALL ISSUED A YANG, DID A, UH, 1,121 INSPECTIONS.

HE ISSUED A WARNING.

HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU GO AROUND THESE, UH, ZIP CODE AREAS OR DO PEOPLE CALL A MAN? AND IF THEY DO CALL IN, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IF IT, UH, DID I REALLY ACTUALLY DO I GO OUT THERE ON SITE AND INSPECT IT? UM, SO WITH, WITH THESE TARGETED ZIP CODES, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, RENTER, RHEA, UM, I SELECTED THOSE ZIP CODES, UM, AND IT IS BASED UPON, UM, LOOKING AT OUR POSITIVITY RATE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO THIS WAS A PART OF AN INITIAL, UM, SUITE.

AND SO THEY GO TO RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE, UM, THAT WE ISSUED THE LICENSE TO.

UM, BUT THEY ALSO GO TO BUSINESSES AND, UM, AND SO THAT YOU USE A CHECKLIST.

AND SO, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE ADHERING TO, UM, THE ORDERS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SIGNAGE.

UM, SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO, UM, TO THE, THE RESTAURANT, UM, INSPECTION, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, UM, IT'S BEEN A LITTLE MIXED BECAUSE, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS THAT WE TEAMED UP WITH, UM, WITH, UM, AWESOME, UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH AUSTIN CODE.

UM, SOME OF THOSE ARE, UM, UH, COMPLAINT DRIVEN.

UM, AND THEN SOME OF THEM ALSO ARE ADDITIONAL SUITES WHERE WE'VE IDENTIFIED LOCATIONS, WHERE WE NEED TO DO SOME INITIAL ENFORCEMENT.

SO THAT'S REALLY GREAT.

THE REASON I WAS MENTIONING THAT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I LIVE NEAR A PARK AND, UH, I DO SEE SOME ACTIVITIES THERE ON THE WEEKENDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, ALMOST LIKE SUPER SPREADERS EVENTS WHERE PEOPLE DO NOT WEAR A MASK.

THERE'S NO SOCIAL DISTANCE.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF, UH, IF SOMEONE SAW THAT AND THEY CALLED THREE, ONE, ONE, WILL THEY GO OUT THERE AND INVESTIGATE THAT? UH, YEAH.

TYPICALLY, UH, TO BE THE FULL TRANSPARENCY, UM, IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE STAFF AVAILABLE THAT CAN GO OUT TO THAT SITE, UM, TYPICALLY WE CAN SEND SOMEONE OUT, UH, IF IT IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, A PARK, UH, FACILITY, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY WORK WELL WITH THEM AS WELL.

NOT TAKE IT VERY SERIOUS, THAT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD TRANSMIT THAT COVID-19 OUT THERE AND THEN GO BACK HOME AND GIVE IT TO YOUR PARENTS.

CAUSE I'VE BEEN NOTICING, UH, AN INCREASE OF THESE TYPE OF ACTIVITIES GOING ON, ESPECIALLY DURING THE WEEKENDS ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.

AND I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED THAT OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY COULD

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SO I, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME KNOW WHAT THAT YOU CAN CALL THREE, ONE, ONE, AND Y'ALL WILL WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GO OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL IN A PANDEMIC AND THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BY, BY, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THEY WON'T GO AROUND SPREADING THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU COLLEAGUES.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR THESE FOLKS? AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE BOTH DOING.

PLEASE.

THANK YOUR STAFFS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

YOU'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.

THIS IS GOING TO KEEP GOING ON UNTIL THE VACCINES COME.

GOOD TO HEAR.

IT'S ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT DISTRIBUTING VACCINES, UM, A MANAGER.

DID YOU WANT TO DO THE AIRPORT PRESENTATION? THAT'D BE GREAT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU DR.

SCOTT AND DIRECTOR HAYDEN, UH, AS OUR AIRPORT EXECUTIVES GET, UH, PULLED OVER INTO THE VIRTUAL ROOM, WE DID GET SOME QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON JUST THE IMPACT OF THE CONCESSIONAIRE PROGRAM WITHIN THE AIRPORT.

AS YOU KNOW, THIS INDUSTRY HAS BEEN IMPACTED SIGNIFICANTLY BY THE PANDEMIC, AND WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE OUR AIRPORT LEADERSHIP, UH, GIVE THIS UPDATE TO COUNCIL.

SO WITH THAT ALTERNATIVE OVER TO OUR CEO, JACQUELINE.

YEAH, GOOD MORNING.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN.

HERE WE GO.

AND MY VIDEO.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.

GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.

UM, HERE WE GO.

AS THE PRESENTATION GETS PULLED UP, I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE AIRPORT.

AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE CONCESSION WITH ME TODAY ALSO IS GOING TO BE THE CHIEF FINANCE ON REVENUE OFFICER MULKEY PATEL.

SO WE WILL BE TOGGLING THE PRESENTATION BETWEEN HIMSELF AND I.

UM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START RIGHT AWAY.

I WILL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO, UM, QUICKLY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE COVERING IS JUST THE OVERALL IMPACT OF COVID TO THE AIRPORT, UM, AS A WHOLE FROM PASSENGER COUNT AND REVENUE, AS IT RELATES ALSO, YOU'LL SEE HOW IT RELATES TO THE CONCESSION GROUP AND WHAT RELIEF WE COULD OFFER TO THEM, UH, FOR .

AND ALSO WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY AND HA EXCUSE ME, AND GIVE AN UPDATE OF HOW WE RESPONDED TO THAT.

AND THEN SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE DOING AT OUR CONCESSION GROUP, UM, ON OTHER ASSISTANTS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THEM.

SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND IF YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SLOW DOWN, I CAN, I, I SPEAK FAST.

USUALLY I TEND TO DO THAT.

MEASURES IN PLACE RIGHT AWAY.

SO FOR ECONOMIC IMPACT, UH, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT WE, COUPLE OF GRAPHS FOR THE NEXT FEW SLIDES THAT REALLY TALK ABOUT HOW THE AIRPORT WAS IMPACTED BY COVID.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE AUSTIN AIRPORT IS AN ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENT THAT GENERATES ITS OWN REVENUE THROUGH THE AIRLINE PASSENGERS, PARKING ACTIVITIES, UM, RENT, CONCESSION FEES, AND SO FORTH.

AND WE RELY HEAVILY ON THOSE AVIATION ACTIVITY IN THE PASSENGER TRAFFIC.

UM, AND OF COURSE THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF THE AIRLINE AND MORE ALSO OF THE ACTIVITIES GOING ON IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT A CONNECTING AIRPORT.

WE'RE MORE ON OWEN D.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UM, WHATEVER PASSENGER ACTIVITY HAPPENING AT THE AIRPORT, THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE GENERATE THE REVENUE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THAT SLIDE.

UM, AND I'LL SPECIFICALLY POINT THE PURPLE LINE, WHICH IS THE TOP ONE.

THIS WAS OUR 2019, THE GREEN LINE WITH THE SHARP DECLINE IS OUR 20, UM, 2020.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE AVERAGE SOMEWHERE.

UM, WE USED TO BE IN ALMOST A 30,000 PASSENGER A DAY TO NOW WE DECLINED TO, OR I WOULD SAY BETWEEN A MILLION AND ABOVE PER MONTH, WE WENT DOWN ON SHARP DECLINED TO ALMOST 10,000 IN ONE MONTH IN, IN BETWEEN MARCH AND APRIL.

UM, IT WAS A VERY SHARP DECLINE WHEN THE COVID VERSUS FIRST HIT.

UH, WE ARE IN A VERY, VERY SLOW RECOVERY.

AS YOU SEE, THE GREEN LINE IS GOING UP SLOWLY.

UM, A FEW THINGS WE TOOK IN ACCOUNT RIGHT AWAY WHEN, WHEN COVID WAS HIT, I SENT A REVENUE, WENT DOWN AS FAST AS WE STARTED DOING OUR FINANCIAL

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WE REDUCED OUR OPERATING EXPENSES HEAVILY, AND WE ARE IN MORE OF WHAT I CALL A SURVIVAL BUDGET FOR .

AND WE ALSO ONLY UTILIZING CONTRACTS THAT ARE MISSION CRITICAL TO KEEP THE AIRPORT OPERATING, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE AIRFIELD OR IN THE TERMINALS FOR INFECT DISINFECTING OR CLEANING SUPPLIES AND SO FORTH.

UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

UM, THIS ONE IS MORE ON A, AGAIN IN A TWIN THAT SHOWS YOU THE, THE SHARP DECLINE OF 90, ALMOST 97% OF PASSENGER DECLINE.

UM, IN SOME MORE BETWEEN MARCH AND APRIL, WE WENT DOWN TO ABOUT 500 PASSENGERS A DAY, ONLY FROM 30,000.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE NOW IN SEPTEMBER, WE'RE STILL IN, IN A REDUCTION OF PASSENGER COUNT BY 70%.

UM, WE ARE AGAIN RECOVERING VERY, VERY SLOWLY.

UH, WE, SO WE WENT DOWN FROM 95, 97% TO UP TO 70 TO 65 IS WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.

UM, USUALLY OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, WE USED TO SEE AN INCREASE IN OUR PASSENGER COUNT BECAUSE OF THE ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY.

AND OF COURSE, BECAUSE OF THE MUSIC FESTIVAL AND FORMULA ONE, WE'RE NOT SEEING THOSE NUMBERS BACK YET.

UM, THIS ONE MORE TOXIC, IT LOOKS SPECIFICALLY ON A MONTH, MONTH, OR NUMBER OF PASSENGERS, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE RANGE SOMEWHERE FROM OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, ABOUT 800,000 A MONTH.

NOW WE ARE AT 200,000 A MONTH.

SO ALL IN ALL IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY WITH THOSE THREE SLIDES IS THAT HEAVY DECLINE IN PASSENGERS ALSO SHOWCASED DECLINE IN OUR REVENUE FROM RENTAL CAR, FROM PARKING, AND OF COURSE FROM CONCESSIONAIRE AND, UH, THE AERONAUTICAL REVENUE FROM THE AIRLINE, WHICH IS THE LANDING FEES ALSO DECLINED.

SO I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER THE NEXT SLIDE TO MOKI AND HE'S ON RIGHT NOW.

HE'S GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THE CONCESSION AND THE IMPACT TO THEM.

AND THEN WE'LL TALK AGAIN ABOUT THE RESOLUTION IN A LITTLE BIT.

GREAT.

THANKS JACKIE.

I THINK EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME.

UM, THERE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TODAY.

THIS IS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU ALL.

I'VE BEEN ON THE JOB A LITTLE LESS THAN A HUNDRED DAYS.

I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT JACKIE IN THE ROLE OF THE BUSINESS AND FINANCE FOR THE AIRPORT.

IF YOU COULD TRANSITION TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, THIS IS OUR MISSION STATEMENT FOR OUR CONCESSIONS PROGRAM AND IT'S TO PROVIDE PASSENGERS WITH AN AUTHENTIC FOOD BEVERAGE, HAVE A RETAIL EXPERIENCE THAT DRAWS FLAVORS FROM OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY TO DRIVE AN ORIGINAL EXPERIENCE.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WHEN THEY'RE IN AUSTIN BERGSTROM INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, THAT THEY CAN GET A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT OUR COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE.

FEELS LIKE TASTES LIKE SMELLS LIKE, AND THEY CAN ALSO PURCHASE TRINKETS AND THINGS TO TAKE HOME THAT ARE A GOOD MEMORY OF, OF AUSTIN.

UM, AND SO NEXT TIME, PLEASE.

SO OUR PROGRAM, UH, SORRY FOR THE SLIGHT ERROR THERE, THE CONCESSIONS MAP, UH, IT MAKES UP 50 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL FLUID AND BEVERAGE TRAVEL RETAIL OUTLETS ACROSS THE BARBARA JORDAN TERMINAL.

UH, THIS PROGRAM HAS TAKEN US MANY YEARS TO PUT TOGETHER AND IT'S, IT'S MOSTLY, UH, OPERATED BY THREE MAJOR PRIME OPERATORS, UM, THAT ARE LICENSING THESE BRANDS TO BRING THEM TO THE AIRPORT FROM THESE, UH, BRANDS THAT ARE ON THE STREET SIDE.

AND THEY'RE OPERATED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, UH, A MIX OF SMALL BUSINESS MINORITY PARTNERSHIPS, LICENSED AGREEMENTS, AS I SAID, OR SUBLEASES IN A VERY FEW INSTANCES.

AND PARODIES LAGGARD AIR.

UH, ONE OF OUR PRIME, UH, ONE OF THE THREE PRIMES IS HMS HOST.

UM, THEY, THEY HAVE ACDB PARTNERS AND THEY BRING, UH, BRANDS LIKE PARKSIDE 24 DINER, UM, NOBLE SANDWICH SHOP.

AND, UH, THEY'VE ALSO INTRODUCED A COUPLE OF NATIONAL BRANDS AFTER A LOT OF PASSENGER SURVEYING AND DEMAND.

STARBUCKS WAS ABLE TO, UH, JOIN THE PROGRAM.

UH, RECENTLY NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, DELAWARE NORTH IS A COMPANY THAT'S, UH, BEEN WITH THE AIRPORT, UH, ALMOST AS LONG AS FAR AS, AS WE MOVED OUT TO BERGSTROM AIR FORCE BASE, UH, AND OPENED THE AIRPORT, THEY BRING FAMOUS BRANDS LIKE SALT LAKE BARBECUE, TACO DELI, IT'D BE IN HOPS, UM, AS WELL AS BOOK PEOPLE.

UM, AND I'M REALLY, REALLY ENJOYING.

AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE AMY'S ICE CREAM IS OUT HERE AT THE AIRPORT.

NEXT SLIDE

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UH, PARODIES IS ONE OF OUR NEWEST PARTNERS THAT CAME ON BOARD WITH THE NINE GATE EXPANSION.

THEY BROUGHT, UH, ONE OF MY FAVORITE, SECOND BAR AND KITCHEN TO THE AIRPORT.

UM, THEY HAVE SALVATION PIZZA AND THEY ALSO BROUGHT OUT A COUPLE OF WINE BARS, YOU KNOW, VOLVO, UH, BUT ALSO SPECIALIZES IN, UH, TEXAS HILL COUNTRY WINE.

AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY PURCHASE, UM, SEALED BOTTLES TO TAKE WITH YOU, UM, AS LONG AS YOU'RE POST SECURITY.

UH, THE PROGRAM ITSELF, UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, WE WERE PARTNERS WITH AIRPORT EXPERIENCE NEWS AS A, IT'S A NEWS AND, UH, INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION THAT HAS RANKED THE PROGRAM TWO YEARS IN 2018 AND 2020, UH, AS THE BEST PROGRAM DESIGN, WE ALSO HAVE WON AWARDS FOR BEST LOCALLY INSPIRED STORE IN 2019 SALT LAKE, AND THEN NATIONALLY AND USA TODAY.

WE'VE ALSO, UH, RECEIVED AWARDS AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH HMS HOST CHARITIES, LAGGARD AIR, AND, UH, OF COURSE, DELAWARE NORTH IN THE PROGRAM.

UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO I WANTED TO TOUCH REALLY QUICKLY ON THE ECOSYSTEM THAT WE HAVE AT THE AIRPORT.

JACKIE TOUCHED ON THE FACT THAT WE WERE PROCESSING SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO 30,000 PASSENGERS A DAY TODAY, WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 8,000 PASSENGERS A DAY.

SO A 74, 75% DECLINE IN PASSENGERS.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A LITTLE GLIMMER OF HOPE HERE.

UM, THE NUMBER OF BADGED EMPLOYEES HAS ONLY DROPPED ABOUT 21%, SO 6,000 BADGE HOLDERS PRIOR TO COVID, WE'RE OPERATING WITH ABOUT 4,700 TOTAL.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR AIRPORT COMMUNITY HERE, NOT JUST AIRPORT STAFF, BUT THE ENTIRE ECOSYSTEM WITH 4,700 EMPLOYEES, UH, PRIOR TO COVID, WE ARE CONCESSIONS EMPLOYEES.

I'M A MAST ABOUT 11% OF THAT POPULATION.

TODAY, IT'S DOWN TO ABOUT 173 EMPLOYEES, UM, AS THE CONCESSIONAIRES ARE OPENING AND CLOSING AND, UM, ADJUSTING THEIR STORE HOURS BASED ON PASSENGER DEMAND, UM, IT AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 2% OF THE WORKFORCE, UH, FOR OUR CONCESSION EMPLOYEES.

AREN'T BACK ON, UH, ONSITE.

A LOT OF THOSE BADGES ARE BEING HELD IN A SUSPENSE MODE.

SO THE EMPLOYEES DO NOT HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REBADGING.

UM, THEY CAN JUST, UH, START THE BADGE OVER AGAIN.

AND ONE LITTLE POINT THERE AT THE VERY END OF THAT SLIDE, UM, IN 2018, WHEN TEXDOT DID A SURVEY OF THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT JOBS OF AUS, UH, SUPPLIED THE COMMUNITY WITH 74,000 JOBS.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT NUMBER WHERE LARGE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I THINK IT'S A TOTAL OF ABOUT 6%, I THINK, OF THE TOTAL EMPLOYEE EMPLOYMENT IN THE AREA, AND WE HOPE, HOPE TO GET BACK TO THOSE NUMBERS VERY SOON.

I'LL TRANSITION BACK TO JACKIE WITH THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

YOU'RE ON MUTE, JACKIE.

I DIDN'T REALIZE I GO DIRECTLY INTO MUTE.

UM, SO WITH THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANTED TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

SO THE RESOLUTION SPECIFICALLY ASKED US TO CONVENE AN AIR FOR CONCESSION WORKERS TO STAKEHOLDER WORKING GROUP, UM, AND ALSO WORK ON CREATING A RECOMMENDATIONS FOR RETURN TO WORK PROGRAM AND LOOKING AT POSSIBLE FEDERAL AND VON COMPLIANT AND SENSE OF THAT.

WE CAN ENCOURAGE THOSE CONCESSIONAIRES TO REHIRE THEIR EMPLOYEES.

SO INDEED WE SPECIFICALLY DID THAT.

WE DID CREATE A WORKING GROUP WITH ALL THE CONCESSION AND WE ALSO INVITED OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SMALL BUSINESS, UM, WORKING GROUP.

AND WE, UM, THE UNION FOLKS ALSO JOINED THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS SINCE MAY WITH THEM AND SEVERAL MEETINGS, UM, DELAWARE SPECIFICALLY ALREADY COMPLIES WITH THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.

SO SOME OF US, UM, WORK IN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE DID WITH THEM IN THESE WORKING GROUPS DID NOT, UM, UM, APPLY TO THEM.

AND THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT CAN THEY DO TO THEY'RE FURLOUGHED WORKERS? SO ALL THE CONCESSION FOLKS THAT JOINED THOSE MEETINGS HAD AGREED TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAMS TO REHIRE THE REFERRAL WORKERS AND REPORT BACK TO AUSTIN AIRPORT AS, UM, WE RECOVERED THROUGH OUR PASSENGER ACCOUNT.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO MENTION ALSO IS WE, THE FAA MANDATES THAT WE OFFER ANY, IF WE DO OFFER ANY RELIEF, WE OFFER IT IN A NONDISCRIMINATORY AND ETHICAL AND ALSO FAIR TO ALL OUR CONCESSION AND

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PARTNERS.

SO REMEMBER THAT OUR CONCESSION GROUP, AS FAR AS FOOD AND RETAIL IS ONLY ONE OF OUR PARTNERS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE PARKING FOLKS, WE HAVE THE RENTAL CAR, AND I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN KNOCKING ON THE MAYOR'S DOOR AND THE CITY MANAGER'S DOOR FOR RELIEF FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW.

UM, SO INITIALLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE CONCESSION RELIEF EFFORTS, WE ESTIMATED ABOUT $9.5 MILLION IN RELIEF THROUGH RENT DEFERRALS TO ALL OUR CONCESSION AND STAKEHOLDERS.

UM, AND IN, UM, IN SPECIFIC NUMBERS, AS WE CLOSE A FY 20, WE ACTUALLY DID DEFER CONCESSION FEES FOR APRIL MAY AND JUNE COMING UP TO ABOUT 4.5 MILLION.

AND WE ALSO PROVIDED ACTUALLY SHORT TERM RELIEF OF A RENT ABATEMENT FOR ABOUT $8.6 MILLION.

UH, WE WAIVED ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR FOR SEVERAL THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES FOR THEM ON ADMINISTRATIVE.

UM, BUT I ALSO WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT OUR REVENUE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET COVERS OUR OPERATING BUDGETS, OUR SALARIES, UM, OUR EXPENSES TO KEEP THE AIRPORT OPERATING AND ALSO OUR DEBT SERVICE, WHICH WE HAVE THAT SERVICE THAT BELONGS TO, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, LIKE THE NINE GATE EXPANSION, THE ABLE HOTEL AND ALL THEIR DEBT THAT WE BORROWED, UM, TO DO AT THE AIRPORT.

SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I CAN EXPLAIN THAT THAT THE 8.6 WAS REALLY WHAT WE HAD TO BE A LOOK THROUGH OUR BOOKS AND NUMBERS FOR FYI 20.

AND THAT IS THE BEST THAT WE CAN OFFER TO OUR CONCESSION GROUP AND OUR STAKEHOLDERS AS A, AS A RELIEF.

UM, WE ALSO WORKED ON CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM WITH THE SMALL AND MINORITY BUSINESS RESOURCE DEPARTMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHERE, AND THE LAW DEPARTMENT ALSO ASSISTED TO SEE IF THEY CAN APPLY FOR, AND, UM, FOR THE PAY, THE PAYROLL PROTECTION PROGRAM OR RE UH, EMPLOYEE RETENTION CREDITS AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

SO A LOT OF THOSE COMPANIES THAT MOOKY MENTIONED EARLIER HAS, UM, LOOKED INTO THOSE PROGRAMS AND SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY CAN APPLY OR NOT.

AND IF THEY QUALIFY, UM, SO QUICKLY FOR THIS BEFORE I SWITCHED TO THE NEXT ONE, MILKY, AS HE, AS THE CHIEF OF BUSINESS AND, UM, FINANCE FOR OUR AIRPORTS TOOK OVER FROM SUSANNA WHO ACTUALLY JOINED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT RECENTLY.

SO SUSANNA INITIALLY WAS WORKING WITH THE CONCESSION GROUP AND THEN MOOKY TOOK OVER RECENTLY AND BETWEEN SOSANNA AND WILKIE.

I MEAN, WE WE'VE BEEN HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CONCESSION GROUP TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN OFFER, UM, AND OTHER RELIEF.

SO I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT FOR THE NEXT SLIDE HERE.

SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UM, AND, AND THIS IS, UM, THIS IS MORE OF A NEXT SLIDE.

UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH OUR CONCESSION GROUP.

SO A MAJORITY OF OUR LOCATIONS ARE WE'RE CLOSED IN APRIL DUE TO THE CITY ORDER, OR THAT CAN THE PASSENGER DECLINE AND DOWN BY 96, UM, YEAR TO DATE SO FAR.

SO WITH THE PASSENGER RECOVERY AND THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE SEEING OF ACTUALLY OUR CONCESSION GROUP, ALL THREE COMPANIES THAT MARCIE TALKED ABOUT HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER HOW TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP AND CLOSE CERTAIN LOCATIONS ON A CASE BY CASE.

UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, DURING THE SHARP DECLINE OF PASSENGER COUNT, WE HAD EIGHT GATES CLOSED AT THE AIRPORT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND SOME OF THOSE CONCESSIONS IN THOSE AREAS CLOSE TO THOSE EIGHT GATES WERE CLOSE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PASSENGER FOOT TRAFFIC IN THOSE AREAS.

AND ALSO THE NUMBERS DID NOT SUPPORT ANY REVENUES, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE WENT DOWN TO 500 PASSENGERS A DAY.

UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM SINCE MAY TO REOPENING FLUCTUATING WITH THE PASSENGER TRAFFIC.

UM, WE WENT UP TO ALWAYS, ALMOST ABOUT 10,000 AT SOME POINT, AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 6,500 PASSENGERS.

SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON REOPENING CERTAIN LOCATIONS ON CERTAIN HOURS OF THE DAY TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THEIR EXPENSES.

AND OF COURSE THE COST.

PAY INTO AND REVAMPED SOME OF THE ADVERTISING THAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE TERMINAL THROUGHOUT THE GARAGES, UH, TO REMIND OUR PASSENGERS THAT WE DO HAVE A LOCAL FLAIR TO OUR, OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE PROGRAM, AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO, UH, EMPTY THEIR POCKETS BEFORE THEY GET ON THEIR PLANE.

UM, OKAY, WELL, LET'S DRIFT TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UM, IT'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO, UM, WORK WITH OUR MARKETING, OFFERING SOME MARKETING, UM, FREE OF COST TO THE CONCESSION, UM, AND ALSO ADVERTISEMENT, UM, I, AND SOME TECHNICAL, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS SLIDE IS NOT SURE.

I THINK YOU CAN TAKE THIS ONE.

YEAH, I CAN TAKE THAT ONE JACKIE REAL QUICK.

SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE TAKEN A SMALL PORTION OF THE MARKETING PROGRAM FEE THAT THE CONCESSIONAIRES

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UM, THE TECHNOLOGY PIECE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS A MAPPING FEATURE THAT WILL ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO BE ABLE TO MAP AND SEE, UM, DOWN THE CONCOURSE.

IT'S A VERY LONG CONCOURSE.

SO WE WANT OUR CUSTOMERS WHO MAY BE SITTING DOWN BY A JET BLUE GATE TO, TO REMIND THEMSELVES THAT THERE IS A RESTAURANT OR A FLAVOR THAT THEY WANT TO EAT, UM, SEVERAL GATES DOWN THE CONCOURSE.

UM, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE CONCESSIONAIRES WILL, WE'LL BE PROMOTING THEM THROUGH SPECIFIC, UH, SEASONS IF THERE'S DONUT OF THE MONTH OR THERE'S ICE CREAM OF THE MONTH, A LITTLE BIT DOING A LOT OF THAT HERE IN THE NEXT FEW, FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS WITH SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, THAT DOESN'T COST US A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT DOES ATTRACT A BROAD AUDIENCE.

I THINK WITH THAT COMMENT, I THINK THE LAST SLIDE WAS OPEN FOR QUESTIONS, MAYOR AND MAYOR, BEFORE WE OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS, I JUST WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK THE DIRECTORY APP AND MOOKY FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING TIME FOR THIS INDUSTRY.

ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, WE JUST GOT NAMED AGAIN AS A TOP 10 AIRPORT IN THE, IN THE, UH, COUNTRY.

AND SO AS WE HAVE READERS, THOSE FROM CONDE NAST, TRAVELER READERS REALLY VOICING THEIR OPINION ABOUT WHAT THE BEST AIRPORT IS.

AND AUSTIN BERGSTROM ROOM WAS AGAIN IN THE TOP 10.

SO CONGRATULATIONS WITH THAT.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU MAYOR.

I'M SORRY.

MAY I APPROACH IRREGULAR? THANK YOU.

I THOUGHT I GOT AN AWARD, BUT I WAS LIKE, WHAT AWARD DID I GET? UM, THE, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE NUMBER OF EFFECTED TO THE SESSION CONCESSION THERE'S NUMBER OF AFFECTED JOBS? OH, SURE.

UH, YEAH.

IT'S ABOUT A FEW SLIDES UP.

SO THAT, IT'S THE SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE TOTAL PASSENGER.

THAT'S TOUGH TRYING TO, SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU GAVE, YOU SAID LIKE A HUNDRED AND SOMETHING.

CURRENTLY THE, UM, EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ACTIVELY WORKING AS 173 PRIOR TO COVID, THAT NUMBER WAS ABOUT 431 EMPLOYEES THAT WERE CONCESSION WORKERS THAT SPECIFICALLY HAVE THAT CATEGORY OF BAD.

TO, UH, OUR AIRPORT CONCESSIONAIRES, WE HAVE TO, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF, YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE KIOSKS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THAT'S A KIOSK, THERE IS ONE LESS JOB OF SOMEBODY BEING ABLE TO, TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT PERSONAL CONTACT.

UM, AND SO I KNOW THAT, UH, SO MY OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, AIRPORT PEOPLE ON THIS RESOLUTION.

AND THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US ON THAT.

UM, THERE ARE CONCERNS FOR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T BEEN IN THOSE MEETINGS.

THERE ARE, UM, IMPORTANT CONCERNS FROM OUR LABOR COMMUNITY ABOUT BRINGING, BEING ABLE TO BRING THOSE PEOPLE BACK.

I THINK IT WAS A BIG WIN FOR PEOPLE WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO GET $15 AN HOUR MINIMUM WAGE AT THE AIRPORT AND CONSTANTLY HAVE HEARD GREAT STORIES OF, OF, OF PEOPLE HAVING, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT JOB AND BEING ABLE TO BE PAID AT THAT RATE, UM, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF, UM, ALIGN GOING FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE AIRPORT, UH, A METRO LINE AND THAT PROVIDING EVEN MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A CAR AND, AND, AND, AND HAVE BETTER PUBLIC TRANSIT TO GET TO THEIR JOBS OUT AT THE AIRPORT.

I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM LABOR ABOUT ANY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF INCENTIVES FOR THE BUSINESSES.

I THINK WE HAVE TO INCLUDE, UM, SOME KIND OF PROMISES ABOUT BRINGING PEOPLE BACK, UH, TO, TO, TO WORK.

AND I APPRECIATE THE, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN BADGED AND IT'S, IT IS EASIER FOR, FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO JUST HIRE THEM BACK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE WHOLE SECURITY PROCESS, BUT, UM, STILL, STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT PEOPLE, UM, HAVE THAT RIGHT TO RETURN TO, TO THOSE JOBS.

AND, UM, I'VE ALSO HEARD ABOUT DO YOU KNOW, THE IMPACT OF TECHNOLOGY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND, AND, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE BUSINESSES, IT IS, IT IS GOOD FOR THEM TO IMPLEMENT TECHNOLOGY.

CAUSE IT'S FRANKLY CHEAPER.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY WAGES AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW YOU HAVE FEDERAL REGULATIONS AND IT'S A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT RULES THAT YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY.

BUT IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE PROVIDING ANY INCENTIVES

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AND I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, I LOVE HOW THE AIRPORT HAS, HAS CREATED THIS VERY AUSTIN FEEL.

AND I THINK AN, ANOTHER THING ABOUT AUSTIN FEEL AND, UM, TEXANS IS, IS THE FRIENDLY INTERACTIONS THAT HAPPEN AND CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, A KIOSK ISN'T GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT SAME KIND OF, KIND OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF TECHNOLOGY, ADDING TECHNOLOGY THAT COULD POSSIBLY ELIMINATE JOBS.

UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, EVEN AS WE TALK ABOUT BRINGING US TO AUSTIN, BUT IT'S NOT A NET GAIN, IF WE'RE LOSING JOBS AT THE AIRPORT BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE HAVING TO GO, UM, SOMEWHERE ELSE AND SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S IN DISTRICT TWO, FOR MANY OF OUR LOWER INCOME FAMILIES LIVE, IT'S, IT'S BETTER THAT THEY'RE THERE.

THEY COULD BE CLOSER TO THEIR JOBS.

SO IT COULD EMPLOY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN SOUTHEAST AUSTIN WHERE THEY COULD POSSIBLY HAVE ACCESS TO GREAT PUBLIC TRANSIT AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, GET TO WORK.

SO I KNOW THAT WASN'T REALLY A QUESTION, BUT I JUST, UM, I, I WOULD, I, I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION OR ANY, IF THERE'S ANY POLICY CHANGES ABOUT TECHNOLOGY USE, UH, WILL THOSE CHANGES BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL TO, UM, TO APPROVE AND I MEAN, TECHNOLOGY, AS IN LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, MORE KIOSKS AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALLY BEING AT THE CONCESSION LICENSE, MY PROTEIN, IF I MAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, UH, RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE WITH THESE PARTNER COMPANIES, UH, WE TRY NOT TO TOO TOO MUCH INFLUENCE ON HOW THEY OPERATE.

UH, WE WANT THEM TO GENERATE, UM, AS MANY TRANSACTIONS AS THEY CAN FILL AS MANY SEATS IN THEIR RESTAURANTS AND, AND TRANSACT, UM, FOOD AND BEVERAGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, RIGHT.

WE WANT THEM TO GENERATE AS MUCH MONEY PER SQUARE FOOT AS, UH, AS FEASIBLE.

UM, THE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT, UM, THAT THE CONCESSION CONCESSION COMPANIES HAVE STARTED DEPLOYING MOSTLY HAS BEEN AROUND, UH, SOCIAL DISTANCING.

SO MOST RESTAURANTS THAT YOU GO STREET-SIDE, UH, YOU CAN NOW PULL UP, UH, UH, UH, TABLESIDE.

YOU CAN PULL UP THE MENU ONLINE ON YOUR PHONE.

UM, WHAT SOME OF THESE CONCESSIONAIRES ARE DOING, NOT NECESSARILY WITH KIOSKS, BUT WITH MOBILE DEVICES THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR OWN POCKET IS TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN, ORDER YOUR FOOD.

UM, THE WAIT STAFF, THE, THE LOWEST LEVEL, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER SERVICE IS STILL PROVIDED, UM, BY BRINGING YOU, UH, YOUR, YOUR BEVERAGES, BRINGING YOU YOUR FOOD, UH, NAPKINS SERVICING YOU AT THE TABLE, HOWEVER, UM, THE TECHNOLOGY IS BEING INTRODUCED FOR YOU TO, UH, PURCHASE ONLINE.

UM, AND SO WHAT, I'M NOT, NOT DEFENDING THE INDUSTRY ITSELF, BUT I THINK THE MORPH THAT WE'RE SEEING FOOD AND BEVERAGE IS TO SPEED UP THE TRANSACTION TIME.

SO WE DON'T HAVE LONG LINES AT THE CO EACH CONCOURSE OR EACH SORRY, A RESTAURANT, BUT IT DOES ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE LEVEL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE.

AND IT ADDS EMPLOYEES IN MY MIND BECAUSE THE RESTAURANTS ARE GOING TO BE BUSIER.

THEY CAN BEHIND THE SCENES BEHIND THE HOUSE.

SO COOK CHEFS PREPARES, UH, SURFACE INDIVIDUALS.

UM, WE'LL BE AROUND JACKIE, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? YES.

SO THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, THE CONCESSION GROUP, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT IT'S AIMING FOR TWO THINGS.

ACTUALLY, THE ONE IS THE SAFETY AND THE SOCIAL DISTANCING.

SO RIGHT NOW NONE OF THE RESTAURANTS ARE OFFERING A MENU THAT ACTUALLY TOUCH ON HOLD.

SO THE PASSENGERS DO NOT TOUCH IT ALL OF THEM TOGETHER AND HAVE THAT CONTAGIOUS ISSUE.

SO THEY'RE OFFERING THE SCAN, YOUR PHONE TO THE CODE, SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY READ THE MENU.

SO THAT IS ONE OF THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO IMPLEMENT, TO CREATE A SAFE, UM, AGAIN, OPERATING FACILITY OR INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE SECOND TECHNOLOGY WE'RE WORKING ON, AND IT ACTUALLY WILL ADD JOBS IS THE DELIVERY METHOD.

SO WHERE THE CUSTOMER CAN LOOK AT THE MENUS AND LOOK AT THE OPTION AFTER STAND ON LINE ONE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO WALK ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE CONCOURSE.

SO IF YOU ENVISION OUR CONCOURSE IS 35 GATES LONG, AND IF YOU'RE IN A, YOU REALIZE JACKIE HERE, SO CAN YOU JUST TALK TO ME ABOUT THE FOOD DELIVERY WAS YOU OPENED YOUR STORE UP IF AMY'S ICE CREAM AND ASSEMBLE

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THING THAT SOMEBODY WANTS AND THEY COME IN ON A DELTA GATE, THEY WOULD PROBABLY BYPASS THAT STORE FRONT.

I THINK JACKIE WAS SUGGESTING THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY SIT DOWN A FREE ORDER AND HAVE THAT FOOD DELIVERED TO YOU, WHICH WILL ACTUALLY ADD JOBS TO THE CONCESSIONS, UH, WORKERS, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO ALSO DO THAT FOOD DELIVERY.

I APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE, THE EXPLANATION.

AND I, I, I GUESS I WOULD HOPE THAT I UNDERSTAND NOT WANTING TO INTERFERE TOO MUCH, BUT THIS IS IT'S VERY RARELY THAT WE CAN PUT, UM, REQUIREMENTS ON, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE BUSINESS.

LIKE, I WOULD LOVE TO FORCE CERTAIN GROCERY STORES TO OPEN IN MY DISTRICT, BUT THERE, I CAN'T DO THAT.

AND SO, BUT THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THEY ARE RECEIVING SOME KIND OF BENEFIT FROM THE CITY THAT I BELIEVE WE CAN AND WE SHOULD.

AND, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, WOULDN'T BE FAIR FOR A CORPORATION TO GET SOME KIND OF WINDFALL BECAUSE THEY'RE INSTALLING TECHNOLOGY AND, AND THAT'S REPLACING SOMEBODY THAT COULD WORK.

AND I ABSOLUTELY HAVE BEEN IN SITUATIONS WHERE I'VE SEEN IN AIRPORTS WHERE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU OWN AROUND THE LITTLE THING ACTUALLY AT YOUR TABLE AND SOMEBODY DOES COME BRING IT TO YOU.

SO OBVIOUSLY THAT, THAT PROVIDES AND MAKES THEIR JOB EASIER.

THEY'RE STILL EMPLOYED, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN WHAT YOU JUST WALKED UP AND YOU ORDER FROM A KIOSK AND YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR YOUR FOOD.

AND THERE, THERE IS NOT THAT INTERACTION UNLESS UNTIL THEY CALL YOUR NUMBER.

AND SO, UM, UM, I WOULD, I MIGHT HAVE TO PASS THIS OFF TO THE NEXT DISTRICT, TWO COUNCIL MEMBER I WILL.

AND, UM, BUT ALSO HOPE THAT OUR, OUR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO CONCERNS ABOUT LOSING JOBS.

AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I KNOW YOU PROVIDED KIND OF AN ANECDOTAL EXAMPLE OF IF, IF THERE'S MORE BUSINESS AND THERE'S MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AND, UM, SO TO SPEAK, UM, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THAT IMPACT IS JUST LIKE ACTUAL REAL NUMBERS SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, DOING THIS CREATES THIS MANY MORE JOBS OR, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO KNOW, AND ALSO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF, OF HOW TECHNOLOGY IS PLAYING A PART IN JOBS.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES, COUNSELOR ON THAT SAME POINT, MAYOR PRO TEM GARDEN, AND THANK YOU FOR RAISING IT.

SO IS RIGHT NOW THE, ON THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE SOCIALLY DISTANCE DELIVERY, IS IT EMPLOYEE, IS IT EMPLOYEES OF THE SAME, UH, CONCESSIONAIRES THAT ARE DOING THAT WORK? OR IS THERE SOME SORT OF CONTRACTOR THAT'S COMING IN TO DO THE DELIVERY? IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IT IS STILL EMPLOYEES OF THOSE SAME CONCESSIONAIRES THAT YOU LISTED IT, THE PROGRAM HASN'T GONE LIVE YET.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL LEARNING DISCUSSION WITH THEM, BUT THEY PREFER TO HAVE THEIR OWN EMPLOYEES TO CROSS UTILIZE THEM, TO KEEP THEM BUSY, THE FULL EIGHT HOUR SHIFT AND NOT HIRE A CONTRACT.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOOD JUST BECAUSE WE DID SO MUCH WORK AS MAYOR POETS HAVE MENTIONED TO IMPROVE JOB QUALITY THERE AND TO BRING THOSE FOLKS BACK.

AND SO I'M GLAD THAT THIS ISN'T A, YOU KNOW, COULDN'T BE PERCEIVED AS A WORKAROUND AROUND THAT.

SO THANK YOU.

MY SECOND QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU LISTED ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES BEHIND SECURITY THAT ARE BADGED, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALSO A NUMBER OF WORKERS ON THE AIRPORT SITE, UH, AT THE HOTEL.

UM, I ANTICIPATE, I IMAGINE THAT THAT IS GOING THROUGH REALLY, REALLY HARD TIMES AS WELL.

DO Y'ALL HAVE A REALLY BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT HOW PEOPLE ARE DOING THERE AND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE TO, TO BEST TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE, THEIR COUNCIL MEMBER, WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK ON ANOTHER BRIEFING SPECIFICALLY TO THAT TOPIC.

I KNOW TIME IS TIGHT ON THESE WORK SESSIONS.

SO EVEN IF Y'ALL CAN EMAIL US AND THEM OR SOMETHING, KNOW OF COURSE YOU'RE INVITED TO BE HERE, BUT, BUT, BUT JUST KNOWING HOW BUSY YOU ARE, OF COURSE, UM, UH, JUST GETTING US SOMETHING THERE WOULD BE HELPFUL.

JUST A VERY COMPLICATED ECONOMIC ECOSYSTEM.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PRESENTATION? THANKS.

UM, I'M INTERESTED IN THIS INFORMATION TOO.

UM, I THINK I HAVE PROBABLY A DIFFERENT TAKE ON, ON WHAT IT MEANS TO, TO INNOVATION AGAINST JOBS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, I'VE BEEN IN MANY CONVERSATIONS IN JACQUELINE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD FOR SOME PRESENTATIONS TALKING ABOUT THE ROLE THAT THE AIRPORT PLAYS IN DRIVING JOBS INTO TO, UM, ALL CORNERS OF THE CITY AND THE REGION.

UM, AND I WOULD HATE TO, TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION CONTEXTUALLY WITH OUR UNDERSTANDING ITS IMPACT ON AIRPORT, UH, COMPETITIVENESS COMPARED TO OTHER AIRPORTS.

IF WE START PUTTING ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON AIRLINES, WILL WE NOT GET THE FLIGHTS WE NEED TO GET THAT THEN LEADS TO REDUCED BUSINESS GROWTH AND JOBS AND OTHER SECTORS.

SO IT'S JUST, IT'S

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AND SO I'M INTERESTED IN THIS CONVERSATION TOO.

UM, AND IT'S KIND OF RELATIVE TO ALL OF OUR ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENTS WHERE THEY JUST OPERATE IN A VERY DIFFERENT SPACE THAN SAY THE PARTS DEPARTMENT OR THE LIBRARY SYSTEM.

YEAH, SO IT IS A COMPLICATED, IT'S BEEN A COMPLICATED THE LAST SIX MONTHS WORKING WITH THE AIRLINES AND ALL THE CONCESSION AND THE STAKEHOLDERS BECAUSE THEY EACH HAVE A DIFFERENT BUSINESS PROFILE AND ALSO DIFFERENT FINANCIAL STATUS.

SO IT'S BEEN A COMPLICATED SIX MONTHS, BUT WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON MAKING SURE THE AIRPORT IS IN A GOOD FINANCIAL STATUS, AS BEST AS WE CAN.

WE ARE IN UNDER OUR DEBT SERVICE.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE SOCIAL DISTANCING AS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED, BUT THE CDC AND ALSO THE AIRLINE REQUIREMENTS.

UM, BUT IT IS AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE TOO, UH, WE'RE STARTING TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AIRLINES BECAUSE WE HAVE A CERTAIN FORECAST FOR OF WHAT THE RECOVERY LOOKS LIKE.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM.

IT WILL TAKE US A FEW YEARS TO RECOVER BACK TO THE PRE COVID NUMBER OR THE AIRPORT ON A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES THERE.

SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP YOU OKAY.

COLLEAGUES, ANYTHING ELSE? OR THIS PRESENTATION? YEAH.

I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THAT, UM, JACKIE, YOU INDICATED THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE HOTEL AT ANOTHER POINT, BUT I KNOW THAT OUR AIRPORT COMMISSION HAS HAD, HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HOW OUR, OUR HOTEL OUT THERE HAS FARED.

AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHETHER THE, WHETHER THAT HOTEL WAS CONSIDERED TO BE A PRO LODGE, YOU KNOW, AS WE, AS WE SOUGHT TO, UM, LEASE DIFFERENT HOTELS AROUND THE, AROUND THE CITY.

I WONDER IF THAT ONE WAS EVER CONSIDERED AS A WAY OF MAKING, UH, OF, UM, FRAME TWO BIRDS FROM ONE CAGE TO QUOTE ASHLEY RICHARDSON, UM, AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE, ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE AT HIGHEST RISK, BUT ALSO, UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO SUPPORT THAT WHAT IS, UH, AN ENTITY WITH A RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY? SO THAT'S JUST A QUESTION I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THE ANSWER TO.

UM, I ALSO AM INTERESTED IN KNOWING IT IN THE EXCHANGE WITH MY AIRPORT COMMISSIONER.

IT LOOKS AS IF THERE'S NOT INFORMATION COMING FROM THE CONCESSIONER CONCESSIONAIRES TO THE AIRPORT ABOUT HOW THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE FAIRING, UM, IN TERMS OF STAYING HEALTHY.

AND SO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE COLLECTING OR HAVE A PLAN TO COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE WORKING WITH THE CONCESSIONAIRES, UH, AND ANY, ANY REPORTED CASES OF COVID.

UM, YEAH, SO I WILL ANSWER BOTH QUESTIONS QUICKLY.

I'LL TAKE THE SECOND ONE FIRST, AS FAR AS THE REPORTING OF THE COVID CASES BY OUR CONCESSIONS AND STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS, UH, WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THEM TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

UM, TSC HAS SHARED THAT INFO EMPLOYEES SPECIFICALLY.

SHE'S FREEZING THERE A LITTLE BIT.

I'M A COUNCIL MEMBER.

TOVA I'LL, I'LL TAKE THAT REAL QUICKLY.

ARE YOU BACK? YEAH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY, SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ANYWAY.

SO THEY HAVE THE FINE TO SHARE THE INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITION FACTOR, IF THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE WE ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION ACT AND THEN PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY REQUEST INFORMATION.

IF THE INFORMATION GETS RELEASED, IT WILL PUT THEM IN A TOUGH SITUATION.

IF ONE AIRLINE GETS ADVERTISED THAT THEY HAVE MORE CASES, POSITIVE, TESTED POSITIVE THAN ANOTHER AIRLINE, AND IT WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPRESSION ON THEM IN THE BUSINESS WORLD, SAME THING WITH THE CONCESSION GROUP.

SO THEY HAVE THE CLIENT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH US AT THIS TIME.

UM, AS FAR AS YOUR SECOND QUESTION ABOUT THE HOTEL, IT IS A CONCERN FOR US BECAUSE ONE THAT THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT AT THE AIRPORT AT THE HOTEL, WE KNOW THAT THE HOTEL IS NOT DOING WELL RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS NUMBERS, BECAUSE OF ALL THE HOTELS ARE ALSO SUFFERING COLLECTIVELY.

BUT THERE'S ALSO A QUESTION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WITH THE LAW THAT THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN SPENT AT THIS AIRPORT HOTEL.

IT IS FAF HOUR AT THAT LOST JACKIE AGAIN, I WILL SAY, I THINK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE FC, THE FAA REQUIREMENTS.

AND I KNOW MY STAFF HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE AIRPORT STAFF AROUND, AROUND THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

AND IT WAS, IT WAS NOT THAT I WAS SUGGESTING THE RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE THAT IT WAS FREE TO THE CITY, BUT IN THE SAME WAY THAT RELEASING, UM,

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LEASING HOTELS FROM PRIVATE ENTITIES, WE COULD DO THE SAME WITH THIS, WITH THIS ENTITY, UH, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER.

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW.

UM, OUR STAFF IS PREPARING A RESPONSE MEMO FOR YOUR REQUEST.

SO ALLOW ME SOME TIME AND I'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT MEMO TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO RESPOND TO THAT SPECIFICALLY THE DETAILS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP DURING SUCH A SUCH A CHALLENGING TIME.

THANK YOU FOR IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND SORRY, BUT THE FREEZING EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO EVERY MEETING, SO, OKAY.

COLLEAGUES, ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS PRESENTATION? A VERY PROTEIN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, FOR THE COMMENT THAT COUNCILOR FLANAGAN MADE.

MY COMMENTS WERE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CONCESSIONAIRES, NOT EVEN FROM THE AIRLINES.

I THINK I COULD AGREE.

I AGREE ABOUT THE ECOSYSTEM AND I AGREE WITH, I AGREE.

WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL, BUT I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT AIRLINES.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.

IT'S, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT, UM, DIFFERENT BUSINESS THAN, THAN, THAN THE CLIENTS.

I THINK THAT GETS US TO THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

ANYTHING ELSE WITH THIS PRESENTATION, JACKIE MANAGER AND BOOKIE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PRESENTING TODAY.

THANK YOU MANAGER.

[B2. Update on staff response to Resolution No. 20200917-062, (SAVES Resolution), related to economic recovery due to COVID-19.]

UH, THIS IS THE ONE ON THE, UH, UH, SAVES, UH, PROGRAMS GIVING AUSTIN'S VITAL ECONOMIC SECTORS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL WITH SOME, WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE STATES RATHER THAN DILUTION RESOLUTION, 12 DAYS AGO AND OCTOBER 1ST, UH, THE CHIEF ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER FROM VERONICA TENEO AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND STAFF FROM LEGAL HAVE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY TO DEVELOP GUIDELINES FOR THREE PROGRAMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE RESOLUTION.

THE DRAFT GUIDELINES WILL BE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL ON THURSDAY AND TODAY.

UH, VERONICA WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE GUIDELINES FOR COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

AND SO NOW WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CHIEF ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER, VERONICA PRESENTIENT, GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CHIEF ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER.

AND AS SPENCER HAS MENTIONED, UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING STEADFAST IN THIS PAST MONTH TO BRING FORWARD THE PROPOSED SAFE GUIDELINES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU PASSED A FEW WEEKS AGO.

UM, BEFORE I BEGIN THE PRESENTATION AND A, THE PRESENTATION, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I DID WANT TO GIVE A HUGE KUDOS TO OUR EDD STAFF.

UM, THEY HAVE WORKED VERY HARD ON BRINGING IN A VERY SHORT TURNAROUND TIME TO BRING FORWARD THESE GUIDELINES TO YOU AND IN DOING SO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU PASSED.

UM, AND THIS IS AFTER SETTING UP MULTIPLE PROGRAMS AS YOU'RE AWARE.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO WIND TO THINK VERY HARD SINCE MARCH AND I COULDN'T BE PROUDER OF THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE.

SO IF WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION QUEUED UP, THANK YOU.

I CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO BRIEFLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER HERE TODAY.

I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GENERAL GUIDELINES FOR ALL THE SAFE SAVES FUND PROGRAMS. AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO DETAILS OF THE THREE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED TO YOU.

THE AUSTIN CHILDCARE PROVIDER RELIEF GRANT, THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC VENUE, PRESERVATION FUND, THE AUSTIN LEGACY BUSINESS RELIEF GRANT.

SO FOR ALL OF OUR FUNDS, EACH PROGRAM WILL BE STRUCTURED AS A GRANT PROGRAM AND WE'LL DISPERSE BETWEEN 4.5 AND $5 MILLION TO AWARDED PROGRAM APPLICANTS.

THE REASON WHY THERE'S A RANGE THERE IS BECAUSE WE ALSO NEED TO IDENTIFY FUNDS FOR THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATORS OR THESE PROGRAMS. SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS PART OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS, AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE ROLLING OUT, THESE FUNDS APPLICANTS MUST BE LOCATED WITH OTHER CITY, A CITY OF AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL, DISTRICT APPLICANTS IN THE CITY'S ETJ OR INELIGIBLE AND AL APPLICANTS OUTSIDE THE CITY OF AUSTIN ARE AN ELIGIBLE.

AND THIS IS ALIGNED WITH THE CLEAR, UH, PROGRAM THAT WAS INITIALLY PASSED BY COUNCIL.

UH, BACK IN APRIL, I GUESS NOW APPLICANTS MUST AGREE TO MEET OR EXCEED THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S COCA AND SAFE OPERATING GUIDELINES.

THESE SAFETY GUIDELINES AND ORDERS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT APPLICANTS ARE AWARE OF THAT.

AND EACH PROGRAM WILL USE A RANDOM SELECTION OR A LOTTERY TO SELECT FUND RECIPIENTS.

OUR DIRECTION AT THAT TIME.

FIRST I'LL WALK THROUGH THE AUSTIN CHILDCARE PROVIDER RELIEF GRANT.

UM, AS COUNCIL'S AWARE, THIS IS A PRO IT'S.

WE HAVE ALREADY INITIALLY ADMINISTERED A CHILDCARE CENTER, REALLY PROGRAM A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, BASED ON COUNCIL RESOLUTION,

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AND SO WE'VE MODELED THIS PROGRAM IN A LOT OF WAYS AFTER THAT INITIAL PROGRAM.

UH, SO THIS WILL BE STRUCTURED AS A GRANT PROGRAM FOR ELIGIBLE ELIGIBLE CHILDCARE PROVIDERS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL DISTRICT.

IT'S A ONE TIME GRANT AWARD AND THE RANGES FROM $2,500 TO $60,000 CHILDCARE PROVIDERS CAN USE THESE FUNDS FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES THAT OCCURRED AFTER THAT WERE INCURRED AFTER MARCH 1ST OF 2020.

SO THE INTENDED BENEFICIARIES FOR THIS PROGRAM ARE AUSTIN BASED CHILDCARE PROVIDERS.

WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON ONES THAT PROVIDE FULL DAY CHILDCARE TO CHILDREN, AGES FIVE AND YOUNGER THAT HAVE A TEXAS RISING STAR ACCREDITATION AND NATIONAL ACCREDITATION, OR THEY HAVE A TEXAS, A TEXAS RISING STAR ASSESSMENT SCHEDULE.

WE LEARNED THROUGH OUR FIRST ROUND OF THIS GRANT PROGRAM, UH, SEVERAL, SEVERAL FACILITIES WE'RE TRYING TO APPLY FOR THE TRS ASSESSMENT AND THERE'S A BACKLOG.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO AT LEAST SEE THAT INITIAL MOVEMENT TOWARDS GETTING THE ASSESSMENT SCHEDULED.

UH, CHILDCARE FACILITIES ARE ELIGIBLE.

THEY'VE BEEN IMPACTED BY COVID-19 RELATED DISRUPTIONS, AND THEY'VE HAD VIRUS MITIGATION AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT NEEDS.

COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT ARE, WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM INCLUDE JOB RETENTION OF OUR CHILDCARE PROVIDER, UH, EMPLOYEES AND MAINTAINING HIGH QUALITY AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE CHILDCARE FOR AUSTIN'S WORK WORKS WORKFORCE.

AS WE KNOW THIS PANDEMIC HAS CERTAINLY UNCOVERED THE NEED FOR QUALITY CHILDCARE.

THAT'S ACCESSIBLE TO ALL AUSTINITES NEXT SLIDE.

UM, UH, APPLICANTS MUST ALSO MEET THESE FOLLOWING CRITERIA, HAVE A PHYSICAL ADDRESS IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THE CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL DISTRICT BE CLASSIFIED AS A LICENSED CHILDCARE CENTER OR A LICENSED OR REGISTERED FAMILY CHILDCARE HOME PROVIDER PROVIDE FULL DAY CHILDCARE, UH, TO CHILDREN AGES FIVE.

AND UNDER, I BELIEVE THIS SLIDE MIGHT BE A REPEAT.

I APOLOGIES.

LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, FOR THIS GRANT, WE ARE ALLOWING PREVIOUS RECIPIENTS OF THE FIRST CHILDCARE PROVIDER RELIEF GRANT, UM, TO APPLY AGAIN, THE THOUGHT HERE IS THAT INITIAL FUNDING WAS PROVIDED IN THE JULY TIMEFRAME.

AND, UH, WE, WE SUSPECT THAT NEEDS HAVE CONTINUED TO INCREASE SINCE THEN PROVIDERS WITH MULTIPLE ELIGIBLE LOCATIONS MAY RECEIVE FUNDS FOR EACH SITE.

UM, AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO LIST MULTIPLE SITES ON ONE APPLICATION APPLICANTS WHO RENT OR LEASE THEIR PROPERTY MUST DEMONSTRATE A COMMITMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ENTER A MORE FAVORABLE RENT OR LEASE SITUATION FOR THE APPLICANT.

AND IF THE PROPERTY OWNER IS UNWILLING TO DO SO, THEN THE APPLICANT MUST SHOW US THE, A GOOD FAITH EFFORT OR STEPS THAT THEY TOOK TO, TO RECONCILE THIS, UH, THE SITUATION.

AND I WILL SAY FOR ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE HEARING, UM, THE NEED IS GREAT.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE HEARING IT TO COUNSEL THE NEED IS GREAT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO HAVE SOME TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE OR LEASE AND RENT SITUATIONS.

AND SO WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE BUILD THAT OUT THROUGH THE RESPONSE OF THIS PROBE OF ALL THESE THREE PROGRAMS, UM, BUT ALSO JUST OVERALL IN OUR, IN OUR RELIEF RESPONSE, WE GET THE NEED AND WE'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT THAT CASE MANAGEMENT OR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR RENT AND LEASE RELIEF WOULD, WOULD LOOK LIKE APPLICANTS MUST ADHERE TO LABOR PEACE PROVISION AND WORKER SAFETY PROTECTIONS APPLICABLE TO THE FACILITY AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF SOME OF THE, UM, ELIGIBLE EXPENSES THAT COULD HAVE INCURRED THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT, UH, UH, AT, UH, SUPPORTING WITH THIS GRANT RENT OR MORTGAGE, UH, FOR THE, THE PROPERTY OPERATIONAL COSTS, PAYROLL, EMPLOYEE RETENTION, TECHNOLOGY, AND SOFTWARE SANITATION AND CLEANING SERVICES OR SUPPLIES, GPE, HOVA COMPLIANCE, FACILITY MODIFICATIONS.

THERE'S NO BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, BUSINESS INSURANCE COVID BRIEFLY RELATED STAFF TRAINING, PROPERTY TAXES, LICENSING FEES, OR RELATED EXPENSES AND TRS ASSESSMENT FEES OR RELATED EXPENSES.

NEXT WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF THE CHILDCARE FACILITY IS SERVING ESSENTIAL WORKERS.

SO I'M LOOKING AT HOW THE, UM, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE GRANTS WOULD BE AWARDED.

WE CREATED THIS RUBRIC.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EACH CATEGORY AND LOOKING AT, UH, AWARDING AWARDING DOLLARS BASED ON THE CATEGORY AND PRIORITIZING WHAT COUNCIL HAS PRIORITIZED IN THE SAVES RESOLUTION.

SO THE BASE AWARD LOOKS AT IF THE LICENSED CHILD CHILDCARE PROVIDER IS EITHER CENTER BASED OR HOME BASED A CENTER BASED CENTER COULD RECEIVE UP TO $10,000.

HOMEBASE COULD RECEIVE 20 UP TO $2,500.

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HAVE THEY BEEN OPEN CONSISTENTLY SINCE MARCH? IF YES, THEN A CENTER BASE WOULD RECEIVE $10,000 AND A HOME-BASED WOULD RECEIVE $2,500 FOR THE EQUITY CONSIDERATION.

WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE IF THE OWNER OR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS A PERSON OF COLOR.

IF THEY ARE A CENTER-BASED IS $3,000 AND HOMEBASE IS $1,500 AND NO AWARD, IF THEY'RE, UH, THE, THE OWNER OR DIRECTOR IS NOT A PERSON OF COLOR EXCEPT CHILDCARE SUBSIDIES.

SO IF, UM, THE CENTER DOES SERVE FAMILIES WITH CHILDCARE SUBSIDIES, WE WOULD AWARD $3,000 FOR THAT.

IF NOT, WE WOULD NOT AWARD AN AMOUNT FOR THIS.

AND I WILL NOTE, THIS IS A DEPARTURE FROM THE ORIGINAL CHILDCARE PROGRAM.

UH, AND THE REASON WHY, AS WE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM UNITED WAY, THAT THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE FIRST, FIRST ROUND, THAT THIS, UH, REALLY SERVED AS A, AS A, UM, A BARRIER TO MANY OF THE CHILDCARE FACILITIES THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO REACH AND ARE PROVIDING SERVICES TO OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS.

UH, SO WE THOUGHT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, SEE FURTHER ON IN MY PRESENTATION, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO BREAK THAT OUT SO THAT WE CAN AWARD SOME TO THESE CHILDCARE CENTERS, BUT PRIORITIZE THOSE THAT ARE RECEIVING SUBSIDIES.

CCS ENROLLMENT.

SO, UM, THIS IS LOOKING AT THE, UM, THE ENROLLMENT FOR ON MARCH 1ST OR TODAY, WHICHEVER IS GREATER FOR CHILD FOR CHILDREN, AGES FIVE AND YOUNGER.

AND THIS IS BASED ON A TRS NATIONAL RATING.

SO IF THEY HAVE A NATIONAL PROGRAM ACCREDITATION, WE'RE LOOKING AT $500 PER SEAT, AND THEN IT GOES, IT'S TIERED DOWN FROM THERE.

AS YOU CAN SEE EMPLOYEES, NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AS OF MARCH 1ST OR TODAY, WHICHEVER IS GREATER, AND THIS IS INCLUDING FULL AND PART TIME OR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

IT'S $300 PER EMPLOYEE FOR PART IT'S 150 PER EMPLOYEE.

AND THIS IS TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEE RETENTION AND TO HELP CHILDCARE CENTERS CONTINUE TO RETAIN THEIR EMPLOYEES HAZARD PAY.

THIS IS FOR OPEN CENTERS, ONLY.

THIS IS A BONUS TO BE PAID DIRECTLY TO EACH CURRENT EMPLOYEE.

FOR ONE PART TIME FOR HAZARD PAY FULL TIME ARE RECOMMENDING A THOUSAND PER EMPLOYEE.

PART-TIME 500 PER EMPLOYEE.

THE AWARD CEILING IS 60,000.

SO EACH OF THESE COMPONENTS WILL BE ADDED UP.

AND, UH, IF FOR SOME REASON, THE CENTER EXCEEDS THAT 60,000 THE MOST THAT WILL BE AWARDED TO 60,000.

WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THE TRS RATED CHILDCARE CENTERS, UM, AN EAST AUSTIN COMMUNITY, WHERE, AND I SHOULD HIGHLIGHT, I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO COUNCIL ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

WHEN WE LOOKED ON A MAP AT TRS RATED FACILITIES, THEY ARE PREDOMINANTLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF AUSTIN.

AND, UH, THE FEW THAT ARE IN EAST AUSTIN ARE IN CENTRAL EAST AUSTIN.

THERE'S REALLY A, A VACANCY IN THE, UH, EASTERN CRESCENT OF OUR, OF OUR CITY.

SO GROUP A OPEN CENTERS WITH A NATIONAL ACCREDITATION OR TRS RATING WOULD RECEIVE 3000, UH, WOULD BE PUT INTO A POOL OF UP TO $3 MILLION.

APOLOGIES.

UM, GROUP B IS TEMPORARY CLOSED CENTERS WITH A NATIONAL ACCREDITATION OR TRS RATING.

WE WOULD, WE WOULD, UM, EARMARK 500,000 FOR THESE CENTERS.

GROUP C IS OPEN CENTERS WHO, WHO DO NEED THE TRS ASSESSMENT.

AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING, WE RESERVE 1.2, 5 MILLION FOR THAT GROUP.

AND THIS IS ASSUMING A 5% THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.

AND THAT THAT ADMINISTRATIVE FEE WOULD COME FROM THE OVERALL 5 MILLION AWARDED TO THIS PROGRAM.

APPLICANTS WITH THE, IN EACH FUNDING GROUP WILL BE AWARDED BY A RANDOM LOTTERY AND THE REMAINING GROUPS, THE REMAINING FUNDS FROM A FUNDING GROUP WILL BE REALLOCATED INTO ANOTHER GROUP.

THAT HAS BEEN VETTED AND WE'RE, WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.

YEAH, THAT CONCLUDES THE CHILDCARE CHILDCARE PROVIDER PROGRAM.

NEXT I'LL SWITCH TO THE AUSTIN LIVE MUSIC VENUE PRESERVATION FUND.

UM, THIS, THIS IS ALSO GOING TO BE STRUCTURED AS A GRANT PROGRAM FOR ELIGIBLE LIVE MUSIC VENUES LOCATED IN AUSTIN.

A CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL DISTRICT APPLICANTS MAY APPLY FOR FUNDING FOR UP TO UP TO $40,000 PER MONTH FOR SIX MONTHS, EACH APPLICANT'S TOTAL GRANT AWARD WILL NOT EXCEED 160,000 LIVE MUSIC VENUE.

OPERATORS CAN USE THESE FUNDS FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENSES INCURRED AFTER MARCH 1ST.

AND I WILL NOTE THAT THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITH OUR LIVE MUSIC VENUES TO KEEP THEM SUSTAINED AND, UM, AND, AND AVAILABLE FOR WHEN WE ARE IN THE NEW NORM AND ABLE TO HAVE OUR LIVE MUSIC VENUES OPEN UP AS THEY ONCE WERE NEXT.

LIKE, SO WE, UM, WE USE THE LIVE VENUE DEFINITION AS DEFINED IN C-SAT.

THIS IS A DEFINITION

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UM, SO YOU CAN SEE AS THE DEFINITION HERE, IT'S DEFINED AS AN ESTABLISHMENT WHERE LIVE MUSIC PROGRAMMING IS THE PRINCIPAL FUNCTION OF THE BUSINESS AND OR THE BUSINESS AS A LIVE MUSIC DESTINATION, AND WHERE THE VENUE CLEARLY ESTABLISHES THE ABILITY OF AN ARTIST TO RECEIVE PAYMENT FOR WORK BY PERCENTAGE OF SALES GUARANTEE OR OTHER MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL FORMAL AGREEMENT FOR EVERY PERFORMANCE, A LIVE MUSIC VENUE AS A DESTINATION FOR LIVE MUSIC, CONSUMERS, AND OR IT'S MUSIC PROGRAMMING.

AND AS THE PRIMARY DRIVER OF ITS BUSINESS, AS INDICATED BY THE PRESENCE OF AT LEAST FIVE OF THE FOLLOWING.

AND I WON'T READ ALL OF THOSE, BUT YOU SEE THE LIST OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TO IDENTIFY THAT THEY ARE ALIVE MUSIC, THEN YOU MIX LIKE, SO SOME OF THE INTENDED COMMUNITY BENEFITS, UH, FROM THIS, FROM THIS PROGRAM, THE WAY WE'VE DRAFTED THESE GUIDELINES, THE INTENDED BENEFICIARIES ARE LIVE MUSIC VENUES, UM, WITH A FOCUS ON ONES THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED OR OPERATOR WITH SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED OPERATIONS OPERATING BELOW 75% OF OPERATIONAL CAPACITY COMPARED TO THIS TIME IN 2019, SINCE MARCH, MARCH 1ST, 2020.

AND WE KNOW THAT THAT HAS THE MAJORITY OF, IF NOT ALL OF OUR LIVE MUSIC VENUES WERE ADVERSELY IMPACTED BY THE CANCELLATION OF SOUTH BY SOUTHWEST OR SUBSEQUENT, AND SUBSEQUENT EVENTS HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY OTHER COVID RELATED DISRUPTIONS OF VIRUS, MITIGATE MITIGATION AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT NEEDS SOME OF THE COMPUTE COMMUNITY BENEFITS WE SEE WITH THIS PROGRAM, JOB CREATION AND RETENTION, MAINTAINING A STRONG TAX BASE, MAINTAINING CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND PRESERVING THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S UNIQUE CULTURE, CHARACTER, HERITAGE, AND BRAND, AND SPECIFICALLY THE BRAND OF THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD.

NEXT SLIDE, ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, UM, APPLICANTS IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE, THEY MUST OPERATE AS A LIVE MUSIC VENUE.

THEY HAVE MUST HAVE A PHYSICAL ADDRESS IN A CITY OF AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

HE CURRENT ON ALL LOCAL AND STATE LICENSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE NO DELINQUENT, LOCAL COUNTY STATE, OR FEDERAL TAX OBLIGATIONS.

I'VE INCURRED OUR PLAN TO INCUR COVID-19 MITIGATION AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT EXPENSES, APPLICANTS WHO RECEIVED A GRANT OR LOAN FUNDED BY FEDERAL BY THE CARES ACT MAY APPLY FOR THIS PROGRAM.

AGAIN, THE SAME THOUGHTS THERE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING INTO THOSE PANDEMIC FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WE KNOW THAT OUR LIVE MUSIC VENUES CONTINUE TO INCUR COSTS IN THIS TIME.

APPLICANTS WITH MULTIPLE LOCATIONS MAY APPLY FOR EACH LOCATION FOR THIS, THIS FUND AS WELL.

EXCELLENT.

UM, AS WITH THE CHILDCARE PROVIDER PROGRAM, WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE THAT THEY ARE, THAT THE APPLICANTS ARE WORKING WITH THEIR LANDLORDS TO NEGOTIATE MORE FAVORABLE SITUATION.

AND WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN PROVIDE THE, UH, CASE MANAGEMENT OR, UM, UH, TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO ASSIST WITH THAT.

UH, THEY MUST ALSO ADHERE TO LABOR PEACE, PEACE PROVISIONS, AND WORKER SAFETY PROTECTIONS AS WITH THE CHILDCARE FUND NEXT LINE.

SO WE ALSO HAVE INCLUDED AN EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN AS PART OF THIS AND THIS, UM, THIS IS UNIQUE TO THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

WE'VE APPLIED AN EQUITY LENS TO ALL OF THE FUNDS, BUT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN INTENSIVE APPROACH.

AND THE REASON IS FOR A COUPLE OF OTHERS, A COUPLE OF REASONS, ONE, THIS IS A LONGER RELATIONSHIP AND A LARGER GRANT AMOUNT.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT IF WE'RE HAVING A LONGER TERM PARTNERSHIP WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE'RE PROVIDING A SUBSTANTIVE MORE BALANCE THAT WE SHOULD, UH, FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE EQUITY COMPONENT, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE, THE GROUP OR THE ENTITY.

UH, ALSO OUR MUSIC COMMISSION HAS BEEN WORKING ON AN EQUITY FRAMEWORK.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, OUR, WE HAVE A CONSULTANT WORKING WITH OUR MUSIC COMMISSION, UM, AND TALKING ABOUT EQUITY AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR OUR MUSIC INDUSTRY.

SO I, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TAKE SOME OF THE PRINCIPLES THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND APPLY IT HERE.

SO WE'RE ASKING THE APPLICANTS SUBMIT A DETAILED LIVE MUSIC.

THEN YOU EQUITY STRATEGIC PLAN WITH THE GOAL OF, OF UNDOING POLICIES AND PRACTICES THAT HAVE LED TO HISTORIC AND SYSTEMIC INEQUITIES IN THE SECTOR, OR AWARDEES WILL BE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE IN AN UNDOING, SYSTEMATIC RACISM, RACISM TRAINING, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE ON HOW WE CAN FACILITATE AND PROVIDING THAT.

AND WITH OUR, UM, WITH OUR, THE GROUP THAT WE WORK WITH, THE CITY WILL PROVIDE CONCEPTS TO HELP APPLICANTS CREATE PLANS THAT ARE ACTIONABLE AND IMPACTFUL.

SO LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE LIVE MUSIC, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, GENRE, DIVERSITY DEVELOPMENT, AND PROMOTION, ATX MUSIC EXPORT AND EXCHANGE TALENT BUYING COPRODUCTION COMORBID MARKETING COLLABORATION, SUPPORTING ACT, OPENING SLOTS,

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DESTINATION EVENTS, AND HAVING COLAC COLE, LOCATED MUSIC, HUBS, AND VENUES NEXT LIKE THE ELIGIBLE EXPENSES ARE SIMILAR TO THE CHILDCARE, LOOKING AT THINGS SUCH AS PAYROLL RENT OR MORTGAGE UTILITIES AND SO FORTH.

I'M BEING ASKED TO HELP WITH MY STUDENTS.

THAT IS NOW CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL DISTRICT.

UM, NEXT SLIDE.

IT'S HARD BEING TEACHER ASSISTANT AND CHIEF ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER.

UM, SO THE AMOUNT OF I MENTIONED IS A 40,000 PER MONTH NOT TO EXCEED 160, 160,000.

UM, THEY WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE ELIGIBLE OPERATING EXPENSES, WHICH WILL BE CALCULATED AND VERIFIED BY ANALYZING HISTORICAL FINANCIAL FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND TAX RETURNS OPERATING COSTS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE WOULD, WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THIS DETERMINATION.

AND THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO BEGIN DISTRIBUTING FUNDING WITHIN 30 DAYS AFTER THE APPLICATION PERIOD CLOSES AND ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTATIONS FROM APPLICANTS HAS RECEIVED.

THE AWARDS WILL BE PAID TO THE AWARDEE ON A MONTHLY BASIS FOR SIX MONTHS OR WHEN THE $160,000 LIMIT IS, IS REACHED.

WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

AND WE THOUGHT THIS WAS IMPORTANT.

THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM OUR STAKEHOLDER GROUP.

UM, AND WE THOUGHT WAS AN IMPORTANT ONE BECAUSE IT'S, UH, IT'S ALLOWS US TO HAVE A CONTINUED INTERACTION MONTH TO MONTH, AS OPPOSED TO A LUMP SUM, SOME GRANT.

AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO BE AWARE OF THE VENUE CONTINUES TO STAY OPEN OR IS CLOSED.

IF THE VENUE IS CLOSED, THEN WE CAN REDIRECT THE REMAINING FUNDING.

UM, IF NECESSARY NEXT, LIKE FINALLY WE HAVE OUR AUSTIN LEGACY BUSINESS RELIEF GRANT.

UH, THIS IS, UH, AGAIN ANOTHER, UH, CRO GRANT PROGRAM.

AND WE LOOKED FOR THIS, WE LOOK TO WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE ADOPTED AS LEGACY BUSINESS PROGRAMS. SEVERAL CITIES ARE CREATING THESE PROGRAMS IN RESPONSE TO COVID, BUT SEVERAL CITIES ARE ALSO HAVE EXISTING PROGRAMS, BUT JUST WITHIN THEIR NORMAL STRUCTURES, WE LOOKED AT THOSE AS, AS, UM, WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE? AND WE ALSO LOOK TO WHAT WE INCORPORATED IN SOLELY AUSTIN, OUR OWN AUSTIN, UH, PROGRAM, OUR EDD PROGRAM AND HOW WE IDENTIFIED A LEGACY BUSINESS THROUGH THAT.

SO BASED ON THAT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS.

THE ONE TIME GRANTS WILL EITHER BE 40 OR $60,000, DEPENDING ON THE BUSINESSES, TENURE, AND NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND LEGACY AND BUSINESS OWNERS CAN USE THESE FUNDS FOR BUSINESS RELATED EXPENSE INCURRED AFTER MARCH 1ST, 2020, NEXT SLIDE, THE INTENDED BENEFICIARIES.

AND WE LOOK TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU PASSED TO, TO, UH, HELP WITH THIS.

ARE THERE AUSTIN BASED BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS, CONTRIBUTE TO OUR US, TO AUSTIN CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND HELP DEFINE THE CITY'S CHARACTER AND BRAND DEMONSTRATE A SUBSTANTIAL LIKELIHOOD OF CLOSING PERMANENTLY ABSENT ASSISTANCE HAVE A LOW LIKELIHOOD OF A SIMILAR BUSINESS REOPENING IN THAT SAME OR NEARBY LOCATION DUE TO INCREASE RENTS OR OTHER MARKET FACTORS, EXPERIENCED CHALLENGES, PIVOTING TO ALTERNATIVE OPERATING MODELS FOR GENERATING REVENUES SUFFICIENT FOR SURVIVAL UNDER EXTENDED COVID-19 PUBLIC HEALTH ORDERS.

THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT WE SEE THROUGH THIS PROGRAM, JOB CREATION, RETENTION, MAINTAINING A STRONG TAX BASE FOR THE CITY OF AUSTIN, MAINTAINING OUR CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO OUR IDENTITY AS A CITY AND FOR SERVING THE OF AUSTIN'S UNIQUE CULTURE, CHARACTER, HERITAGE, AND BRAND NEXT SLIDE, UH, ADDITIONAL ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA.

APPLICANTS MUST MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM.

IT MUST OPERATE IN ONE OF THE FOLLOWING INDUSTRY SECTORS, ART SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS, ART VENUES, BARS, AND, UH, I BELIEVE CHILDCARE PROVIDERS.

WE NEED W THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION PASS.

WE'RE GOING TO VERIFY THAT.

UM, AND IF NOT, WE WILL REMOVE THAT PART FROM THIS POTENTIAL GRANT PROGRAM, LIVE MUSIC AND PRO LIKE PERFORMANCE AND MUSIC, VENUES, RESTAURANTS, AND STUDIO SPACES.

UH, THEY MUST OPERATE FROM A PUBLICLY FACING PHYSICAL BUILDING AND HAVE 20 YEARS OF OPERATIONS AND AN AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY IN A CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL DISTRICT BUSINESS MUST HAVE OPERATED CONTINUOUSLY WITH NO MORE THAN A TWO YEAR BREAK IN OPERATIONS.

AND THE BUSINESS MAY HAVE CHANGED LOCATIONS DURING THIS 20, DURING THE 20 YEARS, BUT THEY MUST HAVE MAINTAINED A LOCATION AND OR HEADQUARTERS IN AN AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY PART OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL DISTRICT.

DURING ALL 20 YEARS, THEY MUST HAVE HEADQUARTERS OR FIRST LOCATION IN AN AREA

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AND I SHOULD NOTE, WE'RE SAYING IN AN AREA THAT IS NOW CITY OF AUSTIN COUNCIL DISTRICT.

CAUSE AS YOU WELL KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE DISTRICTS 20 YEARS AGO.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CURRENT DISTRICTS AND WHERE THEIR HISTORY WAS BASED ON THAT.

AND THEN FINALLY CONTRIBUTE TO AUSTIN CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND HELP DEFINE THE CITY'S CHARACTER AND BRAND NEXT LIFE.

THEY ALSO MUST MEET THIS, THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA ON THE SLIDE.

THEY MUST DEMONSTRATE A SUBSTANTIAL LIKELIHOOD OF CLOSING PERMANENTLY.

THEY MUST DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE IS A LOW LIKELIHOOD THAT OF A SIMILAR BUSINESS REOPENING IN THE SAME OR NEARBY LOCATION.

THEY MUST DEMONSTRATE CHALLENGES AND PIVOTING TO AN ALTERNATED REVENUE, AN ALTERNATE REVENUE GENERATING MODEL.

THEY MUST DEMONSTRATE THAT ASSISTANCE REASONABLY ENSURES THE BUSINESS WILL NOT FAIL, AND THEY MUST COMMIT TO MAINTAINING PHYSICAL FEATURES, TRADITIONS, AND OPERATIONS THAT DEFINE THE BUSINESS.

IT MUST BE CURRENT ON ALL ON ALL STATE LOCAL AND STATE LICENSE REQUIREMENTS, AND THEY MUST HAVE NO DELINQUENT TAX OBLIGATIONS.

UM, SO, UM, THIS ONE, UH, IF THEY, IF IT'S A BUSINESS THAT HAS RECEIVED ASSISTANCE THROUGH ANOTHER SAVED FUND GRANT PROGRAM WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE THIS OWNERS WITH MULTIPLE ELIGIBLE OPERATIONS MAY ONLY APPLY FOR ASSISTANCE ONCE.

SO FOR ONE OF THEIR LOCATIONS, APPLICANTS, AND THE SAME, UH, APPLICATION HERE, OR ARE ASKING APPLICANTS TO WORK WITH THEIR LANDLORDS TO, UM, HOPEFULLY, UH, COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'S MORE REASONABLE TO STAY IN THEIR LOCATION.

AND THEN THE SAME, THE LAST BOWL IS THE SAME AS THE OTHER TWO AS WELL.

AND MAKING SURE THAT APPLICANTS ADHERE TO LABOR PEACE PROVISIONS OR WORKER SAFETY PROTECTIONS.

SO, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S A ONETIME GRANT.

IT'S BASED ON A NUMBER OF, UH, THE TENURE OF THE BUSINESS AND THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE PROPOSING.

IT'S A MINISTER, UH, FOR THE $40,000 GRANT IS FOR BUSINESSES WITH LESS THAN 25 FTES.

UM, FOR THE, UM, FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM, A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE COUNTS AS AN FTE, A PART TIME EMPLOYEE AS A HALF AN FTE.

IF THEY WORK BETWEEN 20 AT WORK BETWEEN 20 AND 40 HOURS A WEEK, AND A QUARTER OF AN FTE, IF THEY WORK LESS THAN 20 HOURS A WEEK, BUSINESSES WHO MEET ALL ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AND HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS FOR THE LARGER GRANT AMOUNT, THE $60,000 AMOUNT, THIS IS FOR OUR BUSINESSES WITH MORE THAN 25 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, BUT NOT MORE THAN A HUNDRED FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

THE DEFINITION OF A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE IS THE SAME OR IT'S FOR A BUSINESS THAT MEET ALL THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AND HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.

SO THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT I'VE PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.

UM, SO AN OVERALL CHART OF THE THREE PROGRAMS AND WHO THE INTENDED BENEFICIARIES ARE, WHAT THE AWARD TYPE IS, THE AWARD AMOUNT, THE FACTORS AND THE AWARD FREQUENCY.

THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED ON THE FRONT END, I HAVE JOINING WITH ME, I'M SYNOVIA HALT, ROB WHO'S, OUR ACTING DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE DAVID GRAY, WHO IS OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, BUT ALSO SERVING AS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THESE PROGRAMS ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

UH, AND, AND AT THAT POINT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING SOME, SOME LEGAL ASSISTANCE, SOME CPA ASSISTANCE, UH, SOME ASSISTANCE IN HELPING THEM NEGOTIATE WITH THEIR LANDLORDS, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THE KINDS OF TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM IN TERMS OF, UH, BANKRUPTCY ACTIONS THAT MIGHT, UH, BE AVAILABLE OR RESTRUCTURING ACTIONS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO THEM, UH, FOLKS THAT, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE EITHER THAT COMPETENCE OR THE, THE, THE WHEREWITHAL, THE CAPACITY TO BE, THEY ALL THEMSELVES HAVE THOSE KINDS OF OPTIONS.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UH, FIRST I WANNA THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR JUMPING ON THIS SO QUICKLY AS WITH ALL THINGS, UH, ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THINGS WE WEREN'T DONE YESTERDAY, UH, BUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK AND MOVEMENT, BOTH IN DEVELOPING WHAT WE COLLECTIVELY VODAFONE AS A COUNCIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND AS THIS MOVES FORWARD.

SO THANKS FOR THAT.

UH, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS THOUGH ABOUT THE, UH, THE CRITERIA, UH, IN PART, BECAUSE IT SEEMS MORE PRESCRIPTIVE THAN I THINK MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION WAS WERE AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, UH, THESE, AND I GUESS I'M SPEAKING MORE ABOUT THE, THE, THE LEGACY AND THE MUSIC VENUES AND THE CHILDCARE.

UH, I THINK THAT THERE WERE SOME CONVERSATIONS, UM, UH, ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF KIND OF FIGURING OUT KIND OF LIKE WHAT A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM MIGHT LOOK LIKE TO, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VENUE OWNER COME IN AND SAY, UH, I'M IN A ROUGH, UH, I MEET THE CRITERIA AND THAT IT LOOKS LIKE I MAY HAVE TO CLOSE.

AND IF I LEAVE, NOTHING'S GOING TO COME BACK IN THIS PLACE.

AND, UH, YES, I'M A PART OF THE CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND A KEY PART OF THE BRAND, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT I NEED.

UM,

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UH, AND THEN THE, THE AMOUNT OF THE AWARD OR THE WAY THAT AWARD IS USED.

UH, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LANDLORD THAT SAY, OK, I'LL, I'LL SELL YOU THIS LOCATION, UH, TO THEN WORK WITH, UM, THE, UH, THE AUSTIN HOUSING CONSERVANCY ARM, THE AUSTIN MUSIC CONSERVANCY, OR, UH, WORKING WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, THAT'S BEING STARTED TO, TO LEVERAGE A LOT MORE DOLLARS TO COME IN, UH, TO, TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE IS RATHER THAN PUTTING IT ALL OUT IN 40 TO $160,000 GRANTS.

UH, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE A, AN EXTRA INCENTIVE TO COME UP WITH $200,000 IF IT WAS LEVERAGING A MILLION AND A HALF OR 2 MILLION FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING TO BEAR.

SO UNLIKE A LOT OF THE PROGRAMS WHICH WE ADMINISTERED, WHICH WERE, UH, UH, INTENDED TO, UM, UH, UH, WHERE WERE PROGRAMS WERE JUDGED ON HOW QUICKLY THEY WERE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE FUNDS AND, AND, AND HOW THEY HELP WITH BASIC NEEDS.

AND IT HELPED TO RETAIN THE BD AT JOBS.

UH, THAT'S STILL IMPORTANT THAT IT HOPEFULLY HELP WITH THESE FUNDS, TOO, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE REAL MEASURE OF SUCCESS THAT WAS INTENDED FOR THIS FUND.

UH, AS MUCH AS IT WAS TO REALLY PROVIDE HELP IN A WAY THAT, THAT NOT ONLY SUSTAINED, UH, 80 FOR THE NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS, BUT PUT FOR, UH, UH, FOR, UH, FOR A MUCH LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO REALLY USE AND SEE IF WE CAN USE THE DOLLARS THAT WAY AS, AS, AS WELL AS THOSE, THE CRITERIA THAT YOU'RE DEVELOPING ENABLE YOU TO BE ABLE TO LEAVE THE MINIMUMS AND THE MAXIMUMS. AND DOES IT HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN THAT LEVEL OF COMPETENCY SKILLSET, UH, TO BE ABLE TO BRING, TO BEAR, TO HELP CASE MANAGE SOME FOLKS AND, AND, AND REALLY HELP DEVELOP KIND OF A NEGOTIATING STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THEM? UH, MARY, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY WORK ON THAT CASE MANAGEMENT COMPONENT.

I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE.

UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN REALITY IN TERMS OF THAT THIRD PARTY PROVIDING THAT ASSISTANCE.

UM, AND IN REGARDS TO THE, THE AMOUNTS CAPS, UM, WE, WE PROPOSED A CAP.

WE CERTAINLY CAN, UM, REVISE THAT IF COUNCIL'S WISHES TO NOT HAVE THAT, THAT, UM, THAT HIGH END CAPPED.

AND I, AND I, AND I MENTIONED, I DON'T, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONSIDERED, AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, AND MAYBE I CAN BRING IN AMENDMENT.

SO WORKING WITH, WITH COLLEAGUES THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED ON THURSDAY, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I RECOGNIZE THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS HAVE TO BE SPENT.

AND THANKS FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT.

AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT, IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO, TO RAISE THAT OR NOT.

UH, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT TO BRING IN, UH, ATTORNEYS OR CPAS, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE, UH, THAT, UH, UH, SERVICE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT MIGHT MAKE THE SPENDING OF THE FUNDING MORE EFFICIENT AND DEPENDING ON WHAT THE WORKOUT SOLUTION MIGHT BE, I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, THE CAPSULE NECESSARILY WORK.

AND I THINK THE GOAL SHOULDN'T BE TO, TO TRY TO GET THE MONEY OUT THE DOOR AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT, BUT TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE, THE LONGEST, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE GREATEST LONGTERM, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, UH, UH, RETURN, UM, AND, AND TAKING A LOOK AT HOW TO LEVERAGE THE MONEY, UH, I THINK THAT SOMEONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET MORE MONEY IF THEY'RE ABLE TO LEVERAGE MONEY, UH, PHILANTHROPICALLY OR OTHERWISE TO HELP PRESERVE MUSIC VENUES IN THE LIGHT.

UH, I THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF A CRITERIA THAT, THAT SHOULD ALSO BE, UM, UH, WORKED, UH, UH, INTO IT, UH, TO REALLY THINK ABOUT CASE MANAGEMENT IS A TOOL THAT'S USED IN MOST OF THE CASES.

UH, CAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A LIMITED UNIVERSE OF FOLKS THAT, UH, THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, COMPLY THE, I NOTICED THAT YOU PUT IN A GOOD FAITH REQUIREMENT TO WORK WITH, UH, LAMB LANDOWNER, LANDLORDS, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH YOUR LANDLORD.

SO YOU CAN GET A LONGTERM LEASE OUT OF THIS BECAUSE THE CITY'S ENABLING, UH,

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THIS SITUATION TO COME WITH CAPITAL, WHICH IS THE TOOL THAT PEOPLE USE TO, TO RENEGOTIATE AND, AND RECALIBRATE LEASES, UH, HAVING SOMETHING THAT SAYS GOOD FAITH REQUIREMENT IS ENOUGH.

I THINK ON DOES THAT VARY LEVERAGE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE, UH, BECAUSE OF GOOD FAITH IS SUFFICIENT, THEN, THEN THERE'S NOT THE SAME PRESSURE, UH, OR INCENTIVE, UH, FOR A LANDLORD TO BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE.

SO MAYBE IT'S, THERE IS NO GOOD FAITH OUT, YOU KNOW, SAVING EXCEPT A SPECIAL APPLICATION FOR A, FOR AN EXCEPTION OF SOME KIND THAT CAN BE RULED ON BY THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.

UH, BUT, UH, IF THAT, UH, BUT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MAXIMIZE THE, THE LEVERAGING IN THAT, UM, UH, UH, SITUATION, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU A KIND OF A DUMP AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU LET YOU COMMENT ON THEM ALL, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL KIND OF SIMILAR KINDS OF, OF THINGS.

UM, UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT, THAT IN, IN ONE INSTANCE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE INFUSION OR ORDER TO BUY SPACE FOR 45 DAYS OR SOMETHING IMMINENTLY IS HAPPENING.

BUT THAT 45 DAYS MIGHT BE THOUGHT ABOUT IN TERMS OF, IN ORDER TO LET THE CASEWORKERS BE ABLE TO WORK.

AND SOMETIMES IN THE 45 DAYS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHETHER YOU CAN GET A WORKOUT PLAN OR NOT.

UH, AND WHERE ARE YOU CAN GET WORKOUT PLANS.

THOSE WOULD BE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE A PRIORITY FOR GETTING FUNDING, AS OPPOSED TO THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THE DEAL CAN'T BE MADE.

UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT, UH, ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS, SHOULD BE THAT, UH, THERE'S NO DELINQUENCIES OR NO, UH, DEFICIENCIES WITH RESPECT TO LOCAL AND STATE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE HELP THAT'S NEEDED.

AND, AND, AND WE MIGHT HAVE SOME OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE IN A BAD PLACE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN OUT OF BUSINESS FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR OTHERWISE.

AND, AND I, I'M NOT SURE THAT I'VE WORKED THAT TO BE AN ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE EXACTLY THE KIND OF HELP THAT THEY, THAT THEY, THAT THEY NEED.

UH, IF IT'S AN, IF IT'S AN OWNER OWNED PROPERTY, UH, THE VENUE OWNS IT, UH, MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A, JUST LIKE WITH A LONGTERM LEASE PROVISION, MAYBE THERE SHOULD BE A DEED RESTRICTION, UH, WHERE THAT OWNER OF THAT VENUE SAYS IN EXCHANGE FOR GETTING THIS HELP.

NOW, I, I COMMIT TO, TO KEEP THIS, UH, AS THIS KIND OF LIES MUSIC VENUE FOR THE NEXT 20, 25 YEARS.

UH, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE, FOR THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SAME KIND OF THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING WITH, UH, LISA'S.

UM, I KNOW YOU'RE BRINGING THE CHAPTER THREE 80 AGREEMENTS SEPARATELY, AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY POWERFUL TOOL, CERTAINLY FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT QUALIFY FOR THIS, UH, TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU CAN BRING OTHER TAXING ENTITIES TO COME IN AND JOIN.

THAT WOULD MAKE THAT EVEN MORE, MORE, MORE, MORE POWERFUL TOOL.

UM, SO I GUESS AT A HIGH LEVEL FOR ME, I LOOK AT THIS AND THINK THAT, UH, THE CRITERIA, THE PROGRAM, UH, PROTOCOLS MAY BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE, UH, AND, AND NOT GIVE, UH, YOU AND THE CASE MANAGEMENT TEAMS, THE, THE ABILITY TO REALLY FASHION, UH, SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD IN A, IN A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, UH, HELP US WITH, UH, WITH THE LIVE MUSIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE, IN THE CITY.

IS THAT KIND OF THING, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED OR THOUGHT ABOUT? ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK WE CAN TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO HAVE A STARTING POINT TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND, UM, GET THE GUY, THE GUIDANCE FROM COUNCIL IN THE DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE PROGRAMS GO SO WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TAKE THEM INTO CONSIDERATION, RIGHT.

UH, N OH, THANK YOU.

I, UM, I SHARE THE KINDS OF COMMENTS THAT ARE CONCERNS THAT THE MAYOR RAISED, AND I WANTED TO ASK HIM ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, I'M CONCERNED IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND THE LEGACY FUND, AS WELL AS THE, THE CHILDCARE FUND ARE ALL LOTTERIES.

IS THAT CORRECT? PARDON? SORRY.

I LOST MY MUTE BUTTON.

LET ME EXPLAIN MY CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

UM, I, I, WELL, FIRST OFF IN, IN, UM, IN SORT OF A COMBINATION OF THE TWO THAT, THAT WITH THE LOTTERY, THAT RAISES THE CONCERNS FOR ME.

SO LET ME TRY TO ARTICULATE THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEGACY BUSINESSES, BUT YOU'RE ONLY ELIGIBLE IF YOU, IF YOU, UM, IF YOU MEET THIS, IF YOU'RE LUCKY, UM, IN A LOTTERY, UM, AND THEN YOU ONLY GET A MAXIMUM OF 60,000 TO ME, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO

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PRESERVE A LEGACY BUSINESS, UH, OR NOT PRESERVED, BUT I SEE THESE, THESE FUNDS AS, AS HELPING THEM SORT OF LIKE THE, WHAT THE MAYOR WAS SAYING, HELPING THEM, UM, IMMEDIATELY, WHILE THEY CAN TRY TO LEVERAGE A LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS, CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ENOUGH TO HELP ANY BUSINESS LAST OVER A LONG TIME.

UM, SO WE NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH TO, TO SO THEY CAN SURVIVE WHILE THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME KIND OF LONGER TERM APPROACH.

I'M NOT SURE THAT 60,000 MAX IS ENOUGH FOR AN IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE WHILE THEY CAN WORK THROUGH LEVERAGING OTHER KINDS OF DOLLARS AS THE MAYOR WAS MENTIONED.

SO THAT'S ONE THING.

THE LOTTERY DOESN'T HELP US MAKE SURE THAT OUR LEGACY BUSINESSES ARE REALLY IN OUR BRAND IS REALLY PROTECTED.

SO I HAVE A CONCERN THERE.

SO THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND YOU DO A LOTTERY THERE, I THINK THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, THE 40,260,000 IS MUCH BETTER IN TERMS OF, OF HELPING, UH, ONE OF THOSE, UM, ENTITIES, UM, SURVIVE IN THE SHORT TERM, UM, WHICH I THINK IS, IS, IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, BUT IT'S A LOTTERY.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY BETWEEN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND LOTTERY AND THE LEGACY BUSINESS LOTTERY TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE ENTITIES THAT ARE OUR BRAND THAT MAKE UP OUR BRAND OR ARE, ARE REALLY, UH, PROTECTED.

WE'VE GOT EXAMPLES FROM, FROM THE LAST ROUND WHERE SOME OF OUR ICONIC VENUES, OR AT LEAST ONE THAT I'M AWARE OF, LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET IN THE LOTTERY AND DIDN'T GET ANY HELP.

SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT KIND OF, THAT KIND OF APPROACH.

IT MIGHT WORK IF YOU DID A LOTTERY FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND, BUT THEN YOU HAD SOME OTHER CRITERIA FOR THE LEGACY BUSINESS FUND.

THAT'S ONLY GOING TO WORK IF YOU PUT MORE MONEY INTO IT BECAUSE 40 TO 60,000 IS NOT ENOUGH.

SO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH THE WAY THIS IS SET UP.

UM, AND IT SORT OF, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT COMBINATIONS OF THINGS DOESN'T WORK.

UM, AND I DO AGREE WITH, UH, WITH, WITH WHAT THE MAYOR IS SUGGESTING IS THAT, AND AGAIN, IT'S BECAUSE MY FOCUS IS ON GOING TO HELP THEM.

WE GOTTA HELP THEM STAY ALIVE RIGHT NOW TO BRIDGE TO A LONGER TERM SOLUTION.

SO THE ASSISTANCE WITH LEGAL, THE ASSISTANCE WITH BANKRUPTCY, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEM, THE ASSISTANCE WITH OTHER KINDS OF THINGS IS, IS REALLY GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.

UM, AND SO I THINK SOME DOLLARS NEED TO GO FOR THAT.

AND I ALSO THINK THAT YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK INDIVIDUALLY AT THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO SEE WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THEY NEED.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, I WOULD SAY, I AM WONDERING ABOUT, IS, IS THE 5% ADMINISTRATIVE FEE, IS THAT WHERE YOU GET TO, I DIDN'T DO THE MATH 5%, SO THAT'S UP TO 500,000, RIGHT? YES.

THAT'S, UH, WE'RE ANTICIPATING A 5% ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.

AND I WILL ADD THAT.

WE KNOW THAT, OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT A GUARANTEE AS WE'RE TALKING TO INTERVIEWING THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATORS.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH IF WE'RE JUST DOING A LOTTERY.

UM, AND IN, IN THIS, IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS, IF, IF THAT INCLUDES SOME EXPERTISE, THEN IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO ME, SOME EXPERTISE TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS.

THEN I COULD PERHAPS SEE THAT, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T SEE 500 OF $500,000 FEE TO ADMINISTER A $5 MILLION FUND VIA A LOT OF LOTTERY.

UH, TO ME, UM, TO ME DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T BROKEN THAT DOWN TO HOW MANY HOURS IT TAKES, BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MANY HOURS IT TAKES TO ADMINISTER SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

CAUSE I THINK ABOUT IT IN THOSE TERMS, WHAT'S THAT HOURLY RATE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I CAN BREAK THAT DOWN AND MAYBE I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS WRONG, AND MAYBE THERE'S MORE WORK THAN I'M THINKING, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN AWFUL LOT.

SO, UM, I, I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.

I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF USING SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS.

I COULD SEE HOW THAT COULD COST MORE IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TO INCLUDE SOME ACTUAL EXPERTISE, LEGAL OR FINANCIAL EXPERTISE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT THE MAYOR'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT JUST TO ADMINISTER A LOT, UH, A, A LOTTERY APPROACH.

AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOTTERY APPROACH.

SO, SO IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT, UM, THE LOTTERY APPROACH WE PROPOSED, BECAUSE WE HAD DESIGNED THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA TO QUEUE UP WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A LEGENDARY BUSINESS.

SO WE'RE AN, WE'RE TRYING TO

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PROPOSE AN OBJECTIVE WAY TO IDENTIFY BUSINESSES THAT ARE LEGENDARY OR ICONIC TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THE ASSUMPTION IS IF YOU'VE MADE, YOU MET THE ELIGIBILITY, THEN YOU ARE IN FACT, A LEGENDARY BUSINESS, THE THIRD, OKAY, I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

THE THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATION FEE.

SO WHILE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY LEGAL ADVICE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING OUR EXPERTISE, BUT THEY DO PROVIDE EXPERTISE AND THEY'RE THE, THEY'RE THE, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CASE MANAGING FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF ENSURING THE APPLICANTS, MEET THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, UM, COLLECTING ANY NEEDED DOCUMENTS AND PROVIDING SOME ASSISTANCE IN THAT OFTEN, THERE IS OUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT IT'S, UH, THE BUSINESSES AND THE NONPROFITS THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR OUR PROGRAMS NEED ASSISTANCE IN KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT DOCUMENTATION YOU PROVIDE AND SO FORTH.

THEY ALSO DO OUTREACH.

THEY DO MEDIA CAMPAIGNS, THEY DO WEBINARS IN SPANISH AND ENGLISH TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEY DEVELOP THE APPLICATION AND THEY PUT IT ON AN ELECTRONIC PLATFORM.

SO THERE'S A SERIES OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, PRIOR TO EVEN GETTING TO THE POINT OF HAVING A, UH, OKAY.

WELL, I WOULD JUST, BUT IT STILL CAUSES ME CONCERN BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO SHIFT THOSE KINDS OF FEES, MORE TOWARDS THE EXPERTISE THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE INDIVIDUALS.

SO, AND LESS, I'M NOT SURE WE NEED TO DO AS MUCH MARKETING AND PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT.

FOR EXAMPLE, I'VE GIVEN OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE.

SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS STILL SEEMS OFF BALANCE, UM, TO ME AND I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE LEGACY BUSINESS AND I, THE 20 YEARS MAKES SENSE TO ME AS A WAY TO, TO HELP WITH THAT POT.

BUT IT MAY BE A COMBINATION OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CAUSING ME CONCERNS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK 40 TO 60,000 IS SUFFICIENT.

SO WE'RE GIVING 40 TO 160,000 OVER, OVER X NUMBER OF MONTHS FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

BUT WE'RE NOT DOING THAT FOR LEGACY BUSINESSES.

SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY, WHY IS THERE SUCH A DIFFERENCE IN THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE LIVE MUSIC FUND AND THE LEGACY BUSINESS? I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LIVE MUSIC FUND MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT COULD REALLY BE HELPFUL.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT REPEATING THAT KIND OF DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE LEGACY BUSINESS PHONE.

SO SOME, UH, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS BECAUSE THE LEGACY MUSIC, THERE ARE MUCH FEWER LINK, UM, LIVE MUSIC THAN YOU, SORRY, NOT LEGACY MUSIC, VIDEOS, LIVE MUSIC VENUES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEN THERE ARE BUSINESSES THAT COULD APPLY FOR THE, UM, FOR THE HAIR, THE LEGACY, UH, PROGRAM, UM, THE, WHERE WE HAVE PROPOSED THE AMOUNTS OF THE LEGACY PROGRAM.

THERE COULD BE 83 RECIPIENTS, AND WE SUSPECT THAT THAT WILL BE OVERSUBSCRIBED.

WHEREAS THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE POPULATION IS MUCH SMALLER.

I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT, UH, UM, AT ABOUT 50, I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT FOR MY STUFF RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT AT 160,000, WE COULD, UH, WE COULD SERVE 29 LIVE MUSIC VENUES.

SO, AND THE OTHER PIECE OF THAT THOUGHT PROCESS WAS OUR LIVE MUSIC VENUES REALLY HAVEN'T BEEN, IF THEY'RE OPEN THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY AT LESS CAPACITY, THE BUSINESSES THAT COULD APPLY FOR THE LEGACY BUSINESS PROGRAM POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE SOME REVENUE COMING IN, FOR EXAMPLE, A RESTAURANT OR, UM, OTHER ENTITIES.

SO THAT WAS OUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND IT.

AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY TO AMEND AS COUNCIL SEES FIT.

OKAY, WELL THEN IT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND.

SO, SO MAYBE MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT YOU'RE NOT, YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR A MUSIC VENUE THAT IS A LEGACY BUSINESS, BECAUSE THIS IS A LOTTERY NOT BEING CHOSEN AT ALL.

SO, SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ONE OF MY FUNDAMENTAL CONCERNS HERE.

SO WE'RE NOT WITH A LOTTERY LIKE THIS WITH THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN THE TWO AND THE LOTTERY.

WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ASSURING THAT OUR LEGACY BUSINESSES HAVE A BIT OF A POTENTIAL FOR DOLLARS TO SUSTAIN THEMSELVES IMMEDIATELY TAUGHT WHILE THEY TRY TO WORK TOWARDS A MORE SUSTAINABLE LONGER TERM APPROACH.

SO, WELL, I WOULD ASK IF COUNCIL PREFERS NOT TO GO THE RANDOM SELECTION OR A LOTTERY DIRECTION, I WOULD LIKE SOME GUIDANCE ON WHAT THE SELECTION PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE THEN, BECAUSE, UM, I THINK, AGAIN, OUR THOUGHTS WERE, IF YOU MEET THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, YOU ARE CONSIDERED A LEGACY BUSINESS.

AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT WAY TO DETERMINE A LEGACY BUSINESS, THEN I WOULD REALLY DEFINITELY NEED GUIDANCE SO THAT WE COULD ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM TO MEET YOUR GOALS.

I'M SAYING IS THAT YOU'VE GOT MORE, OR MAYBE I'M UNDERSTANDING UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, AND THEN I'LL LET OTHERS GO.

WELL, LET ME THINK ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THE 20 YEARS IS, IS A GOOD, IS A GOOD ISSUE, BUT WHAT

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BUT, UM, FOR, FOR THE LEGACY BUSINESSES, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT, OR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE LEFT OUT, RIGHT, IS THIS, I WANT TO BE VERY HONEST, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO BE LEFT OUT.

THE NEED IS JUST TOO GREAT FOR THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT, THAT WE HAVE.

I WISH THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FUNDS TO EVERY BUSINESS THAT'S SUFFERING, BUT THE NEED IS JUST BY FAR TOO GREAT.

WE SAW IT IN OUR BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS RELIEF PROGRAM.

WE HAD $16 MILLION TO ADMINISTER ON $123 MILLION TO ELIGIBLE REQUEST TYPE WORK.

WE ANTICIPATE THIS PROGRAM TO BE HER SUBSCRIBED, BUT HOW MANY LEE, I THOUGHT SHE'S HAD A NUMBER FOR THE NUMBER OF LEGACY BUSINESSES.

I THINK WE'RE ESTIMATING ABOUT 200 BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS IN THESE INDUSTRIES FOR OVER 20 YEARS IN AUSTIN.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

THIS IN THE PAST WAS WE ALLOWED THEM TO SUBMIT ONE APPLICATION, BUT THEY COULD RECEIVE, UH, AWARDS FOR, UH, THE VARIOUS SITE.

WELL, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'LL, I'LL THINK ABOUT THAT.

ANY SUGGESTIONS, UM, AND TO GET TO MY FUNDAMENTAL CONCERN RELATED TO THE LOTTERIES ALTER, I HAVE A NEW HEADSET.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE CHILDCARE, UM, PROPOSAL, UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE SHARED WITH ME THAT MIGHT CAUSE THE CHILDCARE IN PARTICULAR, TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, CHALLENGE MEETING THE REQUIREMENT.

I DON'T THINK EITHER OF THESE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN'T ADDRESS EASILY, BUT I WANTED TO FLAG THAT FOR YOU.

UM, SO THE FIRST IS, UM, SECTION 3.4 FOR COMMERCIAL TENANTS, UM, FOR THE CHILDCARES THAT HAVE HAD TO RENEGOTIATE, UM, OF LATE THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO PAY HIGHER RENTS.

UM, AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY, THEY CLEARLY WOULD BENEFIT FROM HELP, UM, NEGOTIATING THE LEASE.

UM, SO I'D LOVE THERE TO BE THE HELP FOR THEM TO NEGOTIATE THE LEASE.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE DO THIS REQUIREMENT FOR THEM, SO THAT IT DOESN'T KEEP FOLKS FROM APPLYING AND THAT THEY'RE GETTING, AS YOU MENTIONED, AND YOU POINTED OUT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO DO THE TECHNICAL LEASE RESPONSE, BUT I THINK FOR CHILDCARE THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND, UM, COULD EASILY BE READ IN A WAY THAT WILL MAKE THEM UNCOMFORTABLE.

SO AT THE VERY LEAST, IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE GOOD FAITH EFFORT OUT, THEN IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME TEMPLATES AND STUFF, UM, TO REDUCE THAT BARRIER.

I'M JUST THINKING TO WHAT WE SAW WITH THE NONPROFITS, WHERE THEY HAD TROUBLE EVEN GETTING THE DIRECTORS, YOU KNOW, TO SIGN OFF, TO SAY, TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO THINKING OF THAT, I JUST WOULD THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW YOU IMPLEMENT THAT PIECE FOR CHILDCARE.

UM, AND I, AND I WANT TO ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED BEFORE I MAKE THE OTHER POINT, UM, THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE HOW YOU'RE LEARNING FROM THE PRIOR GRANTS AND WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT UNLESS WE HAVE MORE MONEY, IT'S HARD TO THINK OF WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY OTHER THAN A RANDOM LOTTERY.

ONCE YOU'VE MET A CERTAIN THRESHOLD AND I'M OPEN TO I'M OPEN TO OTHER IDEAS, BUT FROM WHAT I SAW ELSEWHERE, UM, THERE ARE SOME REAL CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WE DO THIS AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THE SOLUTION THAT IS THE RANDOM RANDOMNESS THERE.

SO THE OTHER PART FOR CHILDCARE WAS ON THE WORKER'S RIGHTS.

UM, AGAIN, IT'S MORE OF A CONCERN OF THIS BEING SOMETHING THAT RAISES FLAGS OR CONFUSES PEOPLE UNNECESSARILY.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE LABOR PEACE AGREEMENTS, AND WE DON'T HAVE UNIONS FOR CHILDCARE EXCEPT FOR LIKE IN RHODE ISLAND WHEN WE'RE NOT RHODE ISLAND.

UM, SO I THINK THAT IT WILL CONFUSE FOLKS IN THE CHILDCARE INDUSTRY.

UM, SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REWRITE THAT OR TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

AND, AND I HAVE SOME STUFF THAT I HAVE THIS DOCUMENTED AND I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU, BUT I WANTED TO RAISE, UM, THOSE TWO ISSUES, BOTH OF WHICH I THINK ARE, ARE EASY TO DO.

UM, ONE CLARIFICATION ON THE CRITERIA.

UM, IT'S A GROUP HAS MULTIPLE LOCATIONS.

ARE THEY ALLOWED TO APPLY FOR 60,000 FOR EACH LOCATION, OR JUST APPLY THE 60,000 TO MULTIPLE LOCATIONS TO RESPOND TO THAT? DAVID, DO YOU WANT, HI COUNCIL MEMBERS, GOOD MORNING, DAVID GRAY WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES WITH MY CAMERA THIS MORNING.

UH, THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN IS THAT CHILDCARE PROVIDERS WITH MULTIPLE PATIENTS MAY RECEIVE FUNDS FOR EACH SITE.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ADMINISTERED

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AND SO I THINK THAT TO YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE HER SITE.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT THAT WAS SO THAT, UM, WHEN PEOPLE WERE MOVING FORWARD WHO DID HAVE MULTIPLE SITES, THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT THEY WERE, WHAT THEY WERE ELIGIBLE FOR.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT YOU HAVE TRIED IN THIS CRITERIA, UM, TO ACCOUNT FOR, UM, THE NUMBER OF, OF STUDENTS AND THE EMPLOYEES, AND TO ALLOW THOSE THAT ARE, ARE ACCEPTING SUBSIDIES, UM, TO GET A BONUS.

UM, I DID ONE WONDER ABOUT, UM, THE OPEN CONSISTENTLY SINCE MARCH, UM, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT, THAT WOULD APPLY, HOW MANY CENTERS THAT WOULD APPLY TO.

UM, SO I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, OR IF YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION, UM, CAUSE THERE MAY BE PLACES THAT WERE CLOSED, UM, IN MARCH OR EARLY APRIL, BUT THEN OPENED IN MAY, UM, AND WE'RE SERVING ESSENTIAL WORKERS, ET CETERA.

UM, SO I JUST THINK THAT MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TWEAKING ON IT.

UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IN MY CASE, THESE ARE RELATIVELY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS.

UM, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY DO I NEED TO MAKE AMENDS OR IS THIS FEEDBACK THAT THEN WILL BE INCORPORATED? UM, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT NATURE OF AMENDMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TODAY, BUT, UM, I THINK MINE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE THAN ON THE GUIDELINES.

SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS OR IF THIS IS KIND OF GUIDANCE THAT YOU'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO ACT ON.

IT SOUNDS, REMEMBER I THINK THIS, THIS IS GUIDANCE AND I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT'S ON THE IMPLEMENTATION SIDE.

SO LET US GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE IT.

AND IF I FEEL THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO INCORPORATE IT, WE WILL LET YOUR OFFICE KNOW BEFORE THURSDAY.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I THINK THAT'S A MEMORY ELLIS.

I WAS READING YOUR LIPS, EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE ON MUTE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I HAD A THOUGHT ON THIS TOPIC OF CHILDCARE, UM, AND THE, THE EQUITY PORTION THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THAT, THAT, AND PRESENTING YOUR IDEAS ON IT.

UM, MY, I HAVE ONE CONCERN I'M HOPING IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE IS YOU MAY HAVE A CHILDCARE FACILITY WHERE IT IS NOT OWNED BY A PERSON OF COLOR, BUT THE STAFF, MAYBE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND THE FAMILIES BEING SERVED, THEY MAY ALSO BE.

AND SO I WONDER IF THERE'S A WAY TO BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THAT, JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A SITUATION WHERE A MAJORITY OF THE STAFF IS PEOPLE OF COLOR HELPING THESE FAMILIES IN SHELTER, AND THEN THE OWNER JUST HAPPENS NOT TO BE.

SO I WONDERED IF THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION OR SOMETHING YOU COULD FIND A WAY TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE WITH THAT IS GOOD FEEDBACK.

WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.

WE ENCOUNTERED SIMILAR SITUATIONS IN SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE ADMINISTERED.

SO IT'S NOT QUITE AS NOTED AND WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT INCLUDING THAT, INITIATE IT.

UM, UH, YOU'RE 2% YOU, COULD YOU JUST RUN DOWN FOR US A NUMBER OF ELIGIBLES, I THINK ON THE LEGACY BUSINESS, IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WERE 200, BUT YOU THOUGHT 50 MIGHT GET FUNDING.

CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? AND THEN, UM, GIVE US THE NUMBERS, THE TOTAL UNIVERSE, AND THEN THE TOTAL NUMBER TO GET, TO GET FUNDING AND THE OTHER TWO.

SO ON THE, UM, EDD CHAT, WE'RE HAVING QUITE A FEW THOUGHTS ON THAT.

UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE'S OVER 200, UH, BUSINESSES THAT COULD QUALIFY FOR THE LEGACY, UH, FUND AND WITH THE WAY WE'VE PROPOSED THE GUIDELINES WE COULD SERVE 83 83.

AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE MUSIC VENUES? THE MUSIC VENUES HAVE? I WOULD LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT NUMBER.

I BELIEVE IT'S APPROXIMATELY 50 TO 60, UM, WHICH MEANS THAT WE COULD GET, WE COULD SERVE 29 WITH THE WAY WE PROPOSE THE GUIDELINES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FIRM UP THAT NUMBER FOR YOU.

AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDCARE CHILDCARE? THERE'S 357 CHILDCARE CENTERS IN THE LIMITS.

ON NUMBER OF YEARS IN OPERATION CONTAINED IN WHETHER THEY HAVE ONE OF THOSE CERTIFICATION PROGRAMS. SO WE DID IT INCLUDE, UM, WOULD IT INCLUDE THE, THAT IS A CRITERIA FOR CHILDCARE.

UM, LET'S SEE.

DO WE HAVE ON SLIDE FIVE WITH CHILDCARE, I WAS LOOKING FOR A CRITERIA AND TALKED ABOUT HOW MANY YEARS IN BUSINESS THE CHILDCARE CENTER WOULD BE.

AND THE ONE TIMEFRAME THAT YOU KNOW IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OFFERING PROVIDING CHILDCARE SINCE MARCH ONE OR THEY, OR IT WAS A CHILDCARE PROVIDER ON MARCH.

ONE IS THE CRITERIA

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I'M THINKING THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT ON STAFF WAS, YOU KNOW, CHILDCARE IS SUCH A NECESSITY AND, UM, AND REALLY IS BECOME AN ISSUE THROUGH THOSE TIME.

I WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CHILDCARE FACILITIES OPEN AND OPERATIONAL.

UM, IF THE THOUGHT IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE A CRITERIA INCLUDING HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS.

WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE RATING SYSTEMS LOOK AT HOW LONG THEY ARE, I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE BAKED IN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TO ACHIEVE THE STATUS AND THE CERTIFICATION.

YOU'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE UP THAT YOU HAVE BEEN A PROVIDER OF HIGH QUALITY CHILDCARE, AND THAT'S THE PIECE THAT I DON'T WANT US TO MISS.

AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS BY REPUTATION AND BY ACTUALLY HAVING PROVIDED THE SERVICE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO JUST I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT THERE AND ASK IF THERE, IF THEY COULD JUST FARM THAT OUT, THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR.

UM, NUMBER OF YEARS IN OPERATION, UM, CUSTOMER, IF I WANTED TO CORRECT THEM TO SOLVE ON THE LEGACY BUSINESSES.

UM, I'M TRYING TO READ MESSAGES WHILE I'M PRESENTING.

UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE 200 NUMBER WAS JUST THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY.

STAFF'S ANTICIPATING ABOUT THREE, 350 TO 400 BUSINESSES IN ALL OF THE INDUSTRIES THAT HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS, 200 PLUS UNDER LEGACY BUSINESSES WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS RESTAURANTS AND THEN DOUBLE THAT NUMBER.

IF WE ADDED IN ENTITIES THAT ARE CONSIDERED LIKE A SECRET THAT ARE NOT EATING A STATUTES.

CORRECT.

THE OTHER INDUSTRIES LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAX MAYBE 400 AND THEN 83 OF THOSE POTENTIALLY THROUGH A LOTTERY ON PAGE ON SLIDE 17.

UM, I WAS INTERESTED IN THE GEN JOHN RHE DIVERSITY PIECE.

UM, ARE WE SAYING THAT LIKE A HONKY CHOCOLATE ALSO HAVE TO BE A PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD GO FOR JAZZ OR, OR CAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THESE MUSIC VENUES ARE KNOWN FOR A CERTAIN KIND OF MUSIC LIKE THE BROOKLYN SPOKE, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO I WAS CURIOUS WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THE GENRE DIVERSITY PIECE.

ALRIGHT.

UM, WE WERE THINKING IN TERMS OF THE GENRE DIVERSITY, PARTICULARLY IN, UM, IN THE PANDEMIC BEFORE LIVE MUSIC, VENUES ARE UP AND RUNNING.

SOME OF OUR MORE ESTABLISHED VENUES MIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO LIVE STREAMING, THOSE SORTS OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE CAPABILITIES THAT COULD PRESENT A, UM, A GENRE, A DIFFERENT GENRE OF MUSIC THAT INCLUDES MUSICIANS THAT ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE MUSIC COMMISSION HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

AND, UH, SO IT WAS MORE SO IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, NOT SO MUCH IN THE, THE CHANGING, NOT SO MUCH IN THE PRIMARY JOHN, JOHN REV MUSIC THAT THE VENUE PRODUCES.

THAT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING ONE.

I'D LIKE TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT ELSE Y'ALL DID ON WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW THAT CHANGES THE OFFERINGS, UH, BY THE DIFFERENT MUSIC VENUES.

UM, BUT I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR ON SLIDE 19.

YOU HAVEN'T SELECTED ONE YET.

IS THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

WE HAVE NOT SELECTED A THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR.

WE'VE FOCUSED RIGHT NOW IN THE GUIDELINES AND UM, WITH THE GUIDELINE, ONCE THE GUIDELINES ARE APPROVED, THAT WILL HELP US IN INTERVIEWING INTERESTED THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATORS, COULD YOU CONNECT UP WITH MY STAFF ON THE, ON THE GUIDELINES AND THE CRITERIA FOR THE SELECTION SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE OF THAT WE'LL BE MAKING THAT SELECTION.

UM, AND ALSO THAT WE MESSAGE IT SUFFICIENTLY IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT, UM, WHEN THAT, THAT ADMINISTRATOR ADMINISTRATIVE ENTITY IS CHOSEN, PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY THAT ADMINISTRATOR IS CHOSEN.

EXACTLY WHAT IT SAID, BUT IT WAS ESSENTIALLY TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WHEREVER YOU ARE LOCATED, THAT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT A SIMILAR ENTITY WOULD OPEN IN THAT SAME SPACE OF WORSHIP VERSION OF WARS.

AND I BELIEVE WE ENDED UP PREVIOUS MEMO TO COUNCIL.

WE, UM, DISCUSSED THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASKED IN THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH RIGHT.

THEN CHOOSING THE ADMINISTRATORS FOR THE FIRST, BEFORE THE TARIFFS FUNDING.

SO I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT THE SAME PATH THAT WE WILL BE GOING DOWN IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING.

UM, AND CERTAINLY ARE INTERESTED IN TALKING TO ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN ADMINISTERING ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS ON SLIDE 21.

UM, AND IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER

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AND I, I'M NOT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT CRITERIA.

LIKE WE WOULD BE SAYING THAT THE TAVERN, IF IT CLOSED THAT ANOTHER EATERY COULDN'T OPEN IN THE TAVERN SPACE AND QUALIFY FOR, UM, FOR VENUE FUNDING, BECAUSE IT'S STILL AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT, BUT IT'S NOT THE TAVERN.

SO I THINK THAT IS WHAT THAT SAYS.

AND I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT.

SO WE, WE TOOK THAT LANGUAGE DIRECTLY FROM THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT WAS, UM, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU ON PUBLICATION.

THAT WOULD BE MY INTERPRETATION AS WELL.

AND I, AND I HAVE BEEN USING ON THAT SINCE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT.

AND I STILL AM UNCLEAR ON THE ACTUAL IMPACTS OF THAT, BECAUSE IT WOULD MEAN THAT IF ANOTHER EATERY WHERE, SO LET'S JUST USE THE CHATTERING AND I'M JUST PICKING, NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR VIABILITY, BUT JUST THEY'VE BEEN AROUND A REALLY LONG TIME.

AND IF, IF THEY COULDN'T, IF THE CURRENT OWNERS HAD TO CLOSE BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT ANYMORE AND SOMEBODY ELSE CAME IN AND BOUGHT IT UP AND RAN IT AS NOT THE TAVERN, THEY WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THE ASSUMPTION IS THEY'RE ABLE TO BUY IT AND, AND CONTINUE WITHOUT ANY SUPPORT FROM THE CITY, OR IS IT INTENDED TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL OWNERS, THE TAVERN THERE AND NOT SELL IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HELP FUND THEM? WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, HOW DO WE GET TO THAT PIECE WHERE YOU CAN'T BE SUPPLANTED BY A SIMILAR ENTITY IN THE SAME SCHOOL? I THINK CAN'T REMEMBER IN, IN THE DRAFTING OF THE RESOLUTION TWO WEEKS AGO IN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH, AND AS WE DISCUSSED IT, UH, THE, THE, THE CRITERIA WAS TO, WAS TO LIMIT THOSE THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE AND TO LIMIT THOSE WHERE WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOSE, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT USE THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK.

SO, YES, IF THERE WAS A RESTAURANT DOWNTOWN, UH, THAT WENT OUT OF BUSINESS, IT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, UM, UH, BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS FUNDING, UH, BECAUSE IN THE FUTURE POST PANDEMIC, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE RESTAURANTS DOWNTOWN, BUT IT COULD BE THAT YOU HAVE A MUSIC VENUE, LIKE AT NINTH AND RED RIVER THAT IF HAD MUSIC VENUE WENT AWAY, UH, ANOTHER MUSIC VENUE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AT NIGHT AND IN RED RIVER AREA, JUST BECAUSE OF THE MARKET VALUE IS, IS OF THE, OF THE DIRT AND OF THE USES ARE SO GREAT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY.

THAT IS, THAT IS FOREVER LOST.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE ARE MANY RESTAURANTS THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO, TO MEET THIS CRITERIA, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE TO REALLY SEARCH AND FIND OTHER WAYS TO BE ABLE TO HELP RESTAURANTS, RESTAURANTS, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, UNLIKE MUSIC VENUES, THEY CAN BE OPEN.

UM, UH, AND THERE ARE ALTERNATE, UM, UH, BUSINESS PLANS THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FACILITATE PEOPLE WITH.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THREE 80 STUFF.

UH, BUT YOU KNOW, AS I LOOK AT IT, UH, THE, THOSE COMBINATION OF THOSE TWO THINGS, I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE ARE, UH, UM, VERONICA AS MANY RESTAURANTS AS WOULD QUALIFY FOR THIS BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS ADOPTED.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT I SEE THE RELATIVE NUMBERS IN THE LEGACY FUND IS BEING, UM, UH, MORE THAN THE ONES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO QUALIFY IN THE MUSIC AND U UH, AREA.

WELL, BEFORE WE GET OFF OF THE PIECE ABOUT WHETHER YOU WOULD QUALIFY, IF YOU CLOSE DOWN AND A SIMILAR ENTITY, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO OPEN IN THAT SPACE? THEN WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE ARE LOSING THE FUNCTION OF THAT SITE, SARAH RESTAURANT.

AND, UM, THE ONLY WAY THAT PARTICULAR SITE COULD CONTINUE WOULD BE IF IT MORPHED INTO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

AND I THINK THAT LOSES THE SENSE OF ICONIC, CAUSE IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST THE STRUCTURE, BUT IT'S WHAT GOES ON THERE AND WHO BROUGHT THE HEART AND THE INTENTION TO THAT SPACE.

AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, I'LL, I'LL KEEP WORKING ON TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU CAN NEVER WIN WITH THIS PARTICULAR CRITERIA, WHICH YOU'RE DEMONSTRATING THAT IT'S UNLIKELY FOR A SIMILAR ENTITY TO OPEN IN THIS SPACE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOT RESTAURANT ROW, YOU KNOW, UM, OR A NEARBY LOCATION.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME WAY OR NEARBY LOCATION, BUT LIKE WHEN WE, WHEN THE WAREHOUSE DISTRICT

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WAS TRANSITIONING FROM A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT, IT BECAME A RESTAURANT DISTRICT AND A PLACE FOR BARS AND OFFICES.

AND IT REALLY BECAME ALIVE BECAUSE OF THE VARIETY THAT WAS IN THERE.

AND SOME OF THE PLACES WHERE THE RESTAURANTS THEN OPENED THEY'RE TAGGED WITH THAT IS THE PLACE FOR THAT RESTAURANT, EVEN WHEN THEY CHANGED THE NAME ON THE RESTAURANT, THAT'S STILL AN EATERY.

AND SO THERE'S A CONTINUATION THAT, THAT ADDS TO THE PREDICTABILITY AND JUST THE GENERAL AMBIANCE AND AESTHETIC.

UM, I THINK IT WAS THE INTENT THAT THIS WASN'T INTENDED TO SAVE EVERYTHING THAT WAS ICONIC.

UH, IT HAD, IT HAD ADDITIONAL CRITERIA.

IT WAS, IT WAS ICONIC AND WOULD NEVER BE ABLE TO BE REPLACED THAT THEY USE WAS GONE.

IT WOULD BE FOREVER GONE FROM THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN, IN, IN AUSTIN, UH, THE DANGER.

AND THE REASON WHY THIS REALLY FOCUSED ON, ON MUSIC WAS BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE MARKET VALUES WERE ENDANGERED AT THE END OF THIS PANDEMIC OF NOT HAVING THAT, RIGHT.

WE WILL HAVE RESTAURANTS, UH, AND, AND, AND WE WANT TO SAVE AS MANY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE.

AND, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN AND SHOULD BE DOING, AND WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO BE MORE AND MORE CREATIVE.

I THINK WE DO THINGS TO OPEN UP THE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE MORE MUSIC PLAYING IN RESTAURANTS.

YOU GET IN THE BARS THAT ARE OPENING HIS RESTAURANTS, UH, OUTSIDE.

THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO BE DOING, BUT, BUT THE RESOLUTION WAS, WAS MORE TERROR, NARROWLY DRAWN TO PROTECT THOSE THINGS THAT ONCE LOST WAS OF AN, OF AN INDUSTRY THAT WE WOULD LIVE.

AND I THINK THE ONLY DISAGREEMENT THAT I HAVE WITH YOU ON THAT MAYOR IS THAT I DO THINK THAT RESTAURANTS CAN ALSO QUALIFY TO BE ICONIC PLACES, JUST LIKE A MUSIC VENUE.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A HANDFUL OR MORE LOVE THEM, AND IF THEY ARE LOST, THEN THE WHOLE SITE GEIST OF THAT PARTICULAR PLACE, LIKE THREADGILL'S, FOR EXAMPLE, IS COMPLETELY GONE.

AND IT WOULDN'T, AND THAT'S THE SHAME, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE LOST THREADGILL'S AND I AGREE, THAT'S WHY WE LEFT IT OPEN TO ALLOW RESTAURANTS, BUT IT WOULD NOT, IT WOULD BE THE RARE RESTAURANT THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO QUALIFY IN THAT, IN THAT GROUP BECAUSE OF THE CRITERIA THAT'S LAID OUT.

UM, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING, WE CAN'T, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO SAVE SO MANY BUSINESSES THAT WE WANT TO SAY THERE HAS TO BE SOME NARROWING UPRIGHTING AREA, AND THEN WE NEED TO FIND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY DO ALSO FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT DON'T MAKE THAT CRITERIA.

SOPHIE'S CHOICE THAT THEY HAVE PUT ON US TO TRY AND PICK WHICH BUSINESSES ARE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

UH, UH, MR. FU IS FLAT AGAIN, JERRY, THANKS, MAYOR.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, MAYBE JUST THE FIRST STEP TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH THIS LEGACY DEFINITION, YOU KNOW, LGBT BUSINESSES, WE'RE A MUCH RIVER THING 20 AND 30 YEARS AGO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE COULD BE BUSINESSES THAT OPENED BACK IN THE DAYS WHERE NO ONE COULD COME OUT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA GET THOSE INVESTMENTS OVER SOME OF OUR MORE ICONIC LGBT VENUES AND BARS.

THAT'S A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC FOR ME.

UM, THE SAME COULD APPLY TO A POC ON BUSINESSES THAT WEREN'T GIVEN THE SAME ACCESS TO CAPITAL OR THE SAME HISTORICAL, UH, FAMILY INVESTMENTS THAT WHY DON'T BUSINESSES MAY HAVE GOTTEN LESS CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, ET CETERA.

UM, ESPECIALLY THOUGH I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE LGBT CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR MANY YEARS IN THOSE YEARS, AND BEING INVOLVED IN THAT ORGANIZATION, THERE WERE MANY POTENTIAL ENTREPRENEURS THAT STAYED IN THE CLOSET THAT DIDN'T COME OUT, THAT DIDN'T OPEN THEIR BUSINESSES BECAUSE THAT'S JUST, IT JUST WAS GOING TO THREATEN THEIR FAMILY LIVES.

IT WAS GOING TO THREATEN THEIR CHILDREN.

IT WAS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM.

SO I, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS LEGACY THING.

UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE FOR IT THOUGH.

AND, UM, ON THE CHILDCARE PIECE, UM, THERE WAS CONVERSATION, I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS'S POINT.

UM, I'M INTERESTED ALSO IN TERMS OF THE POLICIES THAT WE SHOULD REQUIRE FROM CHILDCARE PROVIDERS, THAT THEY NOT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST LGBTQ FAMILIES.

UM, AND TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS A REQUIREMENT OF RECEIVING THESE FUNDS.

BUT I THINK ULTIMATELY WE'RE, WE'RE ALL DANCING AROUND THE SAME THING WE TALKED ABOUT TWO, TWO WEEKS AGO, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER, I THINK, ARTICULATED THIS IN PART ABOUT WHY THE LOTTERY IS MAYBE THE BEST OF A WORST SET OF OPTIONS.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE HAD A MINIMALLY FUNCTIONAL STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SPENDING THE MONEY THEY HAVE IN TERMS OF THE STATE OR ALLOCATING THE MONEY THAT EVERY CITY IN THE COUNTRY IS DEMANDING, WE WOULDN'T BE PUT INTO THIS

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IT'S JUST NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OUR JOB.

AND WE'RE ALL STRUGGLING TO FIND THE RIGHT SET OF RULES AND REQUIREMENTS.

AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S INPUT ON IT BECAUSE THERE IS NO PERFECT ANSWER WHEN WE ARE FORCED IN A PLACE OF PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS AND STAFF PER USUAL, THE COUNCIL HAS SAID SOLVE EVERYTHING.

AND WE HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU AN ABILITY TO REALLY NARROW THIS DOWN.

AND SO VERONICA, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU POINTING OUT THE ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE THAT YOU'RE SEEKING.

IT REMINDS ME A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCORING MATRIX THAT WE DEVELOPED A CAMPO AND JASMINE FOR KITCHEN, YOU ARE THE VICE CHAIR CAMPO.

AND SO YOU COULD PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS IF YOU FELT NECESSARY, BUT THAT WAS A LONG PROCESS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GET TO A, A PREDICTABLE AND REPEATABLE AND FAIR PROCESS THAT WOULD PRIORITIZE PROJECTS WITH A CUTOFF.

SO IT WASN'T ELIGIBLE PROJECTS, AND THEN PICK THEM RANDOMLY.

IT WAS SCORE THEM IN TERMS OF THE RELATIVE VALUE TO FILL IN THE BLANK.

AND THEN WHEN THE MONEY RAN OUT, YOU DRAW THE LINE AND EVERYBODY ABOVE GETS THE MONEY.

EVERYBODY BELOW.

DOESN'T ALSO IMPERFECT PROCESS IN SOME WAYS, BECAUSE THEN A YEAR LATER, THE STATE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION CAME IN AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, FORGET ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY AND PUT AN .

SO EVEN IN YOUR BEST CASE SCENARIO, SOMETIMES THE STATE COMES IN AND SAYS, NO, EVEN WHEN YOU DID IT THE RIGHT WAY, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES FOR YOU ALL THAT, TO SAY, I WOULD LOVE SOME THOUGHT PROCESS AROUND THE LEGACY BUSINESS DEFINITIONS IMPACT ON LGBTQ OWNED BUSINESSES.

BUT THE REST OF THIS, WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRY TO DO OUR BEST.

AND I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYBODY TRYING SO HARD.

CAUSE I DON'T WANT, I WANT THESE BUSINESSES TO HEAR THAT IF, IF THE FUNDS WERE THERE, WE WOULD HELP EVERYONE.

AND THE FUNDS ARE SITTING IN GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S BANK ACCOUNT AND THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

SO I KNOW THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION, SOME OF US TALKED TO THEM RECENTLY, THEY'RE THERE DOING THEIR ADVOCACY AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

I ENCOURAGE ALL OF OUR BUSINESS GROUPS TO CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO RELEASE THOSE FUNDS, HAVE A KITCHEN.

UM, THANK YOU.

JUST THREE THINGS.

UM, SO, UH, UH, FIRST I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTOR OF RESCINDING HAD TO KNOW.

I HEAR WHAT SHE'S SAYING IN TERMS OF LOTTERY.

SO I'M GOING TO GIVE SOME MORE THOUGHT TO THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO AVOID SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD.

UM, I ALSO THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING SOME MORE DOLLARS INTO THE LEGACY FUND POTENTIALLY OR NOT THE FUND, BUT TO THE, THE AMOUNT SOMEONE COULD BE QUALIFIED FOR UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND THEN I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

HAVE WE THOUGHT ABOUT I'M GOING BACK TO WHAT THE MAYOR HAD SUGGESTED? WHAT WOULD THERE BE SOME POTENTIAL TO ADMINISTER THIS THROUGH THE EDO, UM, RATHER THAN PAYING A THIRD PARTY, UH, THAT ISN'T ANOTHER ENTITY.

I MEAN, THE EDO IS GOING TO BE HIRING PEOPLE FOR EXAMPLE, OR THE EKO IS GOING TO BE CONTRACTING WITH EXPERTISE OR WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT UDL CONSULTANT TO GET UP AND RUNNING A ONE TO PUT OUR MONEY TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, AND IN TERMS OF, INSTEAD OF PAYING, YOU KNOW, UP TO 500,000 TO SOME OTHER ENTITY TO DO A FUNCTION THAT WE EVENTUALLY WANT THE EDO TO BE GETTING INTO, WHY DON'T WE PUT THOSE TOGETHER? SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, THAT WE CONSIDER CONSIDER THAT, UM, THAT EITHER DO IT EXACTLY THROUGH THE EDO OR AT LEAST USE THE SAME ENTITY THAT THAT MAY BE, UH, CONSULTING FOR THE EDO AND HELPING THE EDL GET UP AND START IT.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST THINKING ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, ON THREE MINUTES, I, I DO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING, PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD TO RESTAURANTS AND THAT THE THREE 80 AGREEMENTS ACTUALLY MAY BE AT ONE OF OUR, MAYBE OUR BEST OR ONE OF OUR BEST OPTIONS TO ASSIST RESTAURANTS.

BUT, UM, SO, UM, WHEN ARE WE, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE ABOUT WHAT THOSE THREE 80 AGREEMENTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE? CAUSE IT'S KINDA HARD TO, WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THOSE MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

IT'S KIND OF A HARD TO, TO, UH, ASSESS.

SO CAN YOU TELL ME THE TIMELINE ON THAT COUNSELOR WE'RE AIMING FOR THE, YOUR AUGUST, AUGUST, OCTOBER 29TH AGENDA? UM, I GIVE A CAVEAT IN THAT, UM, STAFF IS HARD AT WORK AND LOOKING AT WHAT TO PROPOSE THERE IS NOT ANY FULLY BAKED, RIGHT DIFFERENT THERAPY IN THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING TODAY.

WE WERE ABLE TO MIRROR MIRROR PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE.

WE'RE ABLE TO COME UP WITH GUIDELINES OUT OF THE PRACTICE

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OF, OF DEVISING GUIDELINE LINES.

IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS, THE THREE 80, UM, SUGGESTIONS, WE'RE STARTING WITH A BLANK CANVAS.

WE HAVEN'T PROPOSED SOMETHING LIKE THOSE WITH OUR CHAPTER THREE 80.

SO WE'RE BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT OR BEING CREATIVE.

AND, UM, WE'RE REALLY HOPING TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE, ON THE 29TH.

AND I WOULDN'T TAKE THIS POINT TO ADD AS, UM, THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE ASSIGNED TO IT ARE REALLY, UM, BURIED IN THE WORK WHERE HAPPY THE LEADERSHIP EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM OF, OF EDD IS HAPPY TO MEET WITH ANY STAKEHOLDERS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEND OUR WAY.

UM, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY GIVE STAFF THE TIME TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHAT A PROPOSAL WILL LOOK LIKE.

THAT'S OUR GOAL.

AND THEN I, UM, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE EDO, UM, AND MORGAN HAD SENT AN EMAIL THE TIMELINE FOR THE, OR CREATING THE AEDC OR WORKING VERY STRONG AND STEADFAST IN THAT REGARD.

UM, HOWEVER, I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TIME BEFORE IT IS IN PLACE AND WE'RE STAFFED UP.

AND, UH, SO IDEALLY WE WOULD HAVE WENT TO LEVERAGE MONEY, BUT I DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE ENTITY SET UP JUST YET, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL AND WE HAVE THE NEXT STEPS TO TAKE, UM, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING THAT THOSE STEPS.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF ADMINISTRATING THE FUND, I DON'T THINK THE EDC WOULD BE THE, THE ENTITY THAT WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE AN APPLICATION REVEAL DURABILITY REQUIREMENTS AND THAT'S SORT OF, UH, ACTIVITY.

I STILL THINK THAT WE WOULD NEED THAT EXPERTISE ON HAND.

WELL, LET ME JUST SUGGEST THAT WITH ADO OR REALLY SEE WHAT IT WITH THAT ENTITY.

UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE ARE, THAT WE'VE, THAT WE WILL BE USING SOME CONSULTING ASSISTANCE TO GET IT, UM, AS A STARTUP.

AND SO, AND THAT I'M THINKING OF THE KIND OF EXPERTISE THAT THE MAYOR HAD TALKED ABOUT.

AND I AM THINKING THAT THAT IS THE SAME KIND OF EXPERTISE THAT WE NEED IN THE EDO.

THAT'S REALLY WHERE MY, MY IDEA CAME FROM.

SO, AND I DON'T SEE WHY THE EDO OVER TIME COULDN'T ADMINISTER, MAYBE THAT MAYBE IT'S THE ADMINISTRATING PART IS, IS, IS A PROBLEM.

BUT I REALLY JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT NOW, IN TERMS OF GETTING THE EDO UP AND RUNNING, THERE'S A LOT OF STEPS, BUT FOLLOWING THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION AND THE BYLAWS, WHICH WE ALREADY AGREED TO IS THE FIRST STEP.

SO I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE STEP, UH, THAT GOES INTO, INTO A STARTUP BEFORE YOU CAN BEGIN DOING SOME OF THE WORK, PARTICULARLY SINCE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO USE A CONSULTING ORGANIZATION, THE CONTRACT WENT WITH HIM TO HELP GET THINGS UP AND RUNNING.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT MY THOUGHT WAS.

AND THE OTHER THOUGHT WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, I, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ENTITY, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE POINT UP TO $1.5 MILLION TO PAY FOR ADMINISTERING THREE FUNDS.

AND, YOU KNOW, TWO OF THE FUNDS ARE PROBABLY MORE LIKE EACH OTHER THAN THE OTHERS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE JUST TO CERTAIN, TO AGAIN, SEND TO A, UM, YOU KNOW, AN OUTSIDE ENTITY, AS OPPOSED TO THINKING ABOUT WHAT OUR SYNERGIES COULD BE WITH AN ENTITY THAT WE KNOW WE NEED TO GET UP AND RUNNING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING OF THAT.

AND A LANDLORD THAT'S WILLING TO GIVE OUT MORE.

UM, I JUST, BY WAY OF COMMENT, I AGREE WITH JIMMY'S POINT ABOUT, AGAIN, THE CRITERIA BEING REALLY PRESCRIPTIVE.

SO 20 YEARS, I'M NOT SURE REALLY, UH, IS, IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE APPLIED.

UM, CAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE THAT UNIVERSALLY AT THE SAME TIME, I'M ALSO COGNIZANT OF WHAT JIMMY IS TALKING ABOUT.

AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT WHERE IF YOU HAVE SOME OBJECTIVE CRITERIA TO ENABLES YOU TO NARROW DOWN THE, THE WORLD AND, AND, AND GET THE FUNDS OUT THE DOOR MORE QUICKLY, AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE FIGURING OUT HOW YOU BALANCE THAT WITH, IF I HAD A VENUE WHO GOT TOGETHER WITH THEIR LANDLORD AND THEY CAME IN AND SAID, MY LANDLORD'S WILLING TO ENABLE US TO BE HERE FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.

SO THEY'RE OFFERING A BIGGER LEASE DISCOUNT FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME.

I WOULD WANT THAT TO BE A HIGHER PRIORITY PROJECT.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU MAKE THAT A HIGHER PRIORITY PROJECT IF YOU'RE DECIDING THE PRIORITIES BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PROPOSALS ARE THAT ARE COMING IN, WHICH GETS ME BACK AGAIN TO THINKING THAT MAYBE THE FIRST STEP IS TO GET THE EXPERTISE AVAILABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT MEET THE CRITERIA.

I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A LOWER NUMBER THAN WHAT YOU HAD AND ACTUALLY ENGAGED THEM TO SAY, OKAY, NOW LET'S GO AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN, WHAT THE, WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE

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IT'S PROBABLY GONNA END UP HAVING A BETTER CHANCE TO GETTING CAPITAL AND GETTING CASH THAN THE ONE WHO SAYS, UH, I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TO YOU.

AND THEN, AND THEN THAT, SO YOU DON'T ACTUALLY AWARD THE GRANTS.

INITIALLY YOU START THE PROCESS AND GET PEOPLE, THE EXPERTISE AND THE HELP THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE ABILITY TO GET THEMSELVES.

AND YOU'RE PROVIDING THAT INITIAL CAPACITY TO HELP PEOPLE MAYBE THE FIRST STEP.

UH, AND THEN YOU CAN FIGURE OUT THEN HOW TO ACTUALLY AWARD THINGS THAT GO BEYOND HOW DO I KEEP SOMEBODY ALIVE FOR 30 DAYS WHILE I GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT BECAUSE I ALSO RECOGNIZE IT'S EASIER TO DO A GRANT AWARD.

IF YOU CAN JUST SET OBJECTIVE CRITERIA, GET APPLICANTS, HAVE A LOTTERY AND SEND IT BACK OUT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THAT GETS US WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ULTIMATELY GET TO THIS.

I'LL THINK ABOUT THAT TOO.

I LOVE YOUR THOUGHTS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS, AND WE WILL ALSO GIVE THAT SOME PARTNER.

THANK YOU, KATHY.

DID ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAD QUESTIONS? GREAT RACISTS.

I HAVE QUITE A FEW.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, GREG, AND THEN COMING BACK TO ME, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND MINE, MY COMMENTS, YOU'RE A BRIEF, UM, I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE, UM, DIRECTOR FOR YOU TO THINK THROUGH HOW IT IS.

WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME OF THE FLEXIBILITY THAT I THINK A LOT OF COLLEAGUES HERE I'VE MENTIONED, JUST BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN A CHILDCARE SETTING, IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, IN, UM, UH, IMMIGRANT CHILDREN, SPECIFIC CHILDCARE SERVICES IN THEIR NATIVE LANGUAGE, AS WELL AS ENGLISH AND HAVE MAYBE AN EQUITY ISSUE THAT YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON AND BE ABLE TO SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THAT.

BUT IT'S HARD TO GAME OUT THAT THOSE SPECIFIC CASES IN YOUR CRITERIA.

AND AGAIN, I RECOGNIZE THE IMPOSSIBLE BALANCE OF TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT RULES AND THEN ALSO DEAL WITH ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE GOING TO COME.

BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE PROVIDING YOU WITH SOME OF THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR YOU TO NIMBLY, BE ABLE TO ACT KNOWING THAT I THINK WE HAVE PRETTY SHARED VALUES ON SOME OF THESE EQUITY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED BY EVERYBODY.

AND I THINK REALLY SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THE ONES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN RAISED.

SO I W I W I WOULD PERSONALLY ERR, ON THE SIDE OF GIVING YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY AND THEN YOU EXPLAINING LATER HOW YOU BEST USE THAT.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I RATHER THAN ME GOING AND TRYING TO REWRITE THAT BETWEEN HERE AND THURSDAY, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR YOU TO THINK THROUGH HOW YOU COULD PROVIDE YOURSELF SOME OF THAT NIMBLENESS, ESPECIALLY ON ISSUES OF EQUITY.

I AGREE WITH WHAT, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS POOL AND ALTAR RAISED.

AND THERE, I DO WANT TO PUT IN A LITTLE BIT OF WORK AND MAYBE POST SOMETHING ON THE MESSAGE BOARD TO BETTER CLARIFY.

I THINK WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO TWO WEEKS AGO ON, UM, UH, MAKING SURE THAT A WORKER LAWS ARE FOLLOWED AND THEN ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS SOME LEVEL OF RECOGNITION OF, OF, OF OUR MUSICIANS AS A, AS PART OF THE MUSIC VENUES, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S UNDERREPRESENTED GENRES ARE REPRESENTED, THAT MUSICIANS ARE ALSO TREATED WELL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS.

UM, AND SO I THINK THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY WRITE SOME SPECIFICS THERE SO THAT THERE'S NOT A LACK OF CLARITY AND SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IT MIGHT BE, AND I'M HAPPY TO HELP WITH THAT AND TO WORK WITH ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE INTERESTED, IF YOU WANT TO CALL ME COOL.

ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE KATHY JEFFY IS GONE NOW? UM, YEAH, IF IT GETS JUST YOU AND THEN WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH.

GREAT.

THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS, I WAS NOT LOOKING AT WHETHER WE COULD USE OR WOULD WANT TO USE THE PORTION OF THE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES THAT WERE, UM, IN EFFECT MEETING THE OBLIGATIONS OF PREVIOUS ACTIONS.

I HAVE SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT RELATE TO, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TIME TO KIND OF ADDRESS THEM ALTOGETHER, BUT, UM, I THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD TRY CAUSE THEY ARE ALL RELATED.

SO THE QUESTIONS I HAD, SO WE HAVE SEVERAL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT ARE AFFECTING BUDGET CHANGES AND A LOT OF THEM RELATE TO ARE THE ONES I WANT TO JUST START WITH WERE THE ONES THAT RELATED TO LIKE, GOSH, I KNOW WHERE TO START.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTS HERE.

LET ME START WITH THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR THE MEMO.

AND I WANT TO JUST APPRECIATE ALSO AS MY COLLEAGUES HAVE LIKE THE HARD WORK AND THE QUICK WORK OF THE STAFF TO IDENTIFY THESE OPTIONS, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE OCTOBER 9TH, 20, 20 MINUTE, HELLO, I'VE WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT, THANK YOU FOR, FOR DISCUSSING THE OTHER KINDS OF REVENUE THAT YOU CONSIDERED.

OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT THAT WHEN I RAISED

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IT WAS REALLY A PROSPECTIVE, UM, LOOK, LOOK FORWARD.

UM, WOULD IT BE WORTH HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH COMPANIES NOW ABOUT THEIR PERFORMANCE METRICS FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR THAT WOULD BE PAID OUT IN, UM, UH, FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO 2022.

SO JUST, I SEE THAT, UH, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS GETTING BACK TO US WITH A MORE DETAILED RESPONSE AND THAT WILL BE USEFUL, BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT IT WAS I WAS ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT LAST TIME, WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF TELLING THIS COMPANY IS I UNDERSTAND THERE WASN'T A WELL TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND SO I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE.

CAUSE IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY, UM, THE, UM, AND THANK YOU FOR IN THIS MEMO, YOU REFERRED TO THE MEMO THAT WE GOT BACK ABOUT RIGHT AWAY FEES AND THE IMPACTS OF THE UC USING THOSE.

AND SO I WANT TO STEP BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT FORWARD THE, THE AMENDMENTS TO THE MAYOR'S RESOLUTION THAT ASKED FOR, UM, THE POTENTIAL OR AREN'T ASKED US TO EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL USE OF THE, OF THIS GROUPING OF FEES.

AND I STILL THINK IT'S A REALLY A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

WHAT I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I THINK IS BEFORE COUNCIL IS, IS HOW MUCH OF THAT TO ALLOCATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND THE STAFF HAVE, HAVE POSTED US FOR ACTION IN SUCH A WAY THAT ALLOWS US A RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES.

WE COULD, UM, USE THE RIGHT OF WAY ENCROACHMENT LA STREET VACATIONS TO SUPPLEMENT THE AMOUNT, UM, THAT IS, THAT WERE POSTED FOR, IN TERMS OF THE USE OF SALES TAX REVENUE.

OR WE COULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF THE SALES TAX BUDGET ITEM.

THAT'S ON OUR AGENDA TO CORRESPOND WITH HOW MUCH WE ALLOCATE YOUR WIDE AWAY ENCROACHMENTS STREET, NALLY VACATIONS.

SO I THINK WE HAVE, WE HAVE THAT BIG, BIG CHOICE ABOUT WHETHER TO AGAIN, REDUCE THE SALES TAX, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCE OR WHETHER TO INCREASE THE POOL OF FUNDS.

AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE ITEM 71, UM, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WE DID GET, WE'VE NOW GOTTEN THROUGH MEMOS, UM, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND IT'S GOTTEN CONSECUTIVELY OR IT'S GOTTEN MORE AND MORE DETAILED, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY, HAS REALLY POSITIONED US WELL TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION THIS WEEK.

SO THANK YOU.

BUT WE DID GET A MEMO ON SEPTEMBER 16TH TALKING ABOUT THE USE OF REVENUE FROM TEMPORARY USE OF RIGHT-AWAY PERMIT FEES, AND THEN WENT ON OCTOBER 1ST AND THEN WENT ON OCTOBER 9TH.

AND SO I HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I THINK RELATE PRIMARILY TO OCTOBER 9TH, SINCE IT, IT IS THE MOST DETAILED.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD USE UP TO 3.7 MILLION IN FUNDING FROM, FROM THIS SOURCE.

AND THEN THE STAFF HAVE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT AND POTENTIAL REDUCTION OF SERVICES ARE.

AND SOME OF THESE I COULD SUPPORT AND SOME, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER LEAVING THE MONEY WHERE IT IS FOR THOSE PLANNED EXPENDITURES.

UM, WITH REGARD TO TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION.

THAT SEEMS TO ME JUST BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION THAT IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH.

AND HOPEFULLY THERE'S SOMEONE FROM TRANSPORTATION STAFF WHO CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.

THEY'RE JUST GETTING MOVED TO OUR COUNCIL MEMBER.

WELL, MAYOR, WHAT TIME DID YOU INTEND TO BREAK FOR LUNCH? I GUESS MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THAT QUESTION.

MAYBE WE, WE BREAK FOR LUNCH NOW, COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK AND START HERE.

MAKE SENSE TO DELAY FOR THE YEAR.

UH, AND THEN WE CAN PULL IN ALL THOSE ITEMS IF WE WANT TO.

I KNOW THAT SOME OF THEM, WE MAY BE DISCUSSING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AS WELL.

UH, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S ALL OF THOSE, UH, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 70 THROUGH 78 AND, AND, AND ALSO, UH, 80, UH, MAY BE THINGS WE WANT TO PULL UP.

SO LET'S DO COLLEAGUES IT'S 11 OR NOON.

NOW LET'S COME BACK AT ONE O'CLOCK AND WE'LL DO ALL THINGS, SORRY, BUDGET RELATED IN THAT CATEGORY.

IF I COULD, BEFORE WE BREAK, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS THAT I REALLY HAVE, I HAVE SOME FOR STAFF, BUT ALSO FOR OUR GROUP, UM, REALLY RELATE TO THE OCTOBER 9TH, 20, 20 CHIRP FUND.

REDIRECT, BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER WE WANT TO USE ALL OF THAT 3.7 MILLION OR DO WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT, UM, WHAT I THINK MIGHT BE THE BETTER APPROACH IS TO REALLY TALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE POTENTIAL PROGRAM IMPACTS, UM, AND, AND BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHICH ONES

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UM, I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN MAYBE STAFF CAN GET US THIS INFORMATION, WHAT, WHAT THEY THINK THE FUND BALANCE MIGHT BE FOR, UM, FISCAL YEAR 20 FOR AUSTIN TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT PLAYS INTO THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL.

I KNOW FROM THE MEMO, THEY SAID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE STILL FINALIZING IT, BUT THEY PROBABLY HAVE SOME SENSE OF WHERE IT'LL FALL.

AND THEN AGAIN, I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE WHO BETH IS TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A COUNCIL ABOUT WHETHER, WHETHER THIS 3.7 OR SOMETHING LESS THAN IT IS SUPPLEMENTARY TO THE OTHER SAVES PIECES OR WHETHER WE WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THE SALES TAX PIECE IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT WE ALLOCATE FROM, FROM THIS FUNDING SOURCE.

WE'LL DO THAT.

AND THEN BARACK, I'M GONNA TAKE ANOTHER LOOK, YOU HAVE A LOT OF USES GETTING MONEY INELIGIBLE IN THE LEGACY FUND.

I THOUGHT WE HAD JUST LISTED MUSIC, VENUES, ART VENUES, RESTAURANTS, OR BARS, BUT I'LL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT TOO, MAYOR.

I THINK YOU'RE CORRECT.

WE'RE GONNA MAKE THOSE AMENDMENTS BEFORE THURSDAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, GUYS, IT IS 1158.

WE WILL COME BACK AT ONE.

O'CLOCK HERE, UH, TO START WHERE WE HAVE, UH, WHERE WE LEFT OFF.

UH, SO YOU GUYS IN AN HOUR, LET'S SEE NOW, KATHY AS WELL, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.

SO WE HAVE A QUORUM.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND RECONVENE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE TODAY ON OCTOBER 13TH, 2020, THIS WORK SESSION, WE'RE BACK FROM LUNCH RECESS.

NOW WE'RE CONTINUING AND COMMENTS ON THE LAST STAFF BRIEFING THAT WE HAD ABOUT THE SAVES A RESOLUTION, AS WELL AS THE RELATED, UH, COLD ITEMS. KATHY, WE WERE WITH YOU.

IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ASKING QUESTIONS OR MAKING COMMENTS, I DO.

I WANTED TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEMO THAT WE GOT FROM TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ON OCTOBER 9TH, UM, ABOUT PROGRAM IMPACT WOULD BE OF USING 3.7 MILLION OF, OR AS MUCH OF 3.7 MILLION AS IN THIS WAY.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS I LOOKED THROUGH THE PROGRAM IMPACT, IT SOUNDED LIKE A FEW OF THESE ARE PROBABLY NOT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO NECESSARILY.

UM, STUCK OUT TO ME IS TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

AND SO NOW THAT YOU'VE BROKEN DOWN, OH GOSH, I KIND OF JUST BLEW APART.

UM, NOW THAT YOU'VE BROKEN APART, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM INTO VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, I WOULD PROPOSE WE LEAVE THAT 300,000 IN SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, CAUSE IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, BUT I DID WANT TO ASK ABOUT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AT DIFFERENT QUESTIONS ABOUT EACH ONE AND I'LL MAKE IT QUICK.

CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE YOU ARE IN THE SCHEDULE OF REPLACE OF PLANNED REPLACEMENT WITH VEHICLES AND FIELD EQUIPMENT THAT WAS PROPOSED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AT 550,000? SO WHERE, HOW OLD IS THE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE REPLACED IF WE DON'T REMOVE THE FUNDING AND CONSUMMATE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO WAIT ONE MORE MINUTE FOR DIRECTOR'S FILLER TO GET MOVED OVER TO THE HANDLE.

UM, UH, THAT'S OUT OF CYCLE.

THANKS BO MARIN COUNCIL.

THIS IS ROB SPILLER.

UH, I'M NOW AVAILABLE AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE QUESTIONS AND I'LL TRY TO ANSWER HIM.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT FEELS MORE HELPLESS, BUT SIT THERE AND KNOW YOU HAVE THE ANSWER AND CAN SEE PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN'T SPEAK.

SO I APOLOGIZE.

UM, ON THE VEHICLES, HE, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH THE STANDARD FLEET, UH, MAINTENANCE CYCLE.

AND SO EVERY VEHICLE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND OBVIOUSLY IF A VEHICLE, UH, BREAKS,

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AND SO IT'D BE HARD FOR ME TO ANSWER WHERE WE ARE IN THAT, THAT INFORMATION, AS I SAID, IN MY MEMO, HOWEVER, UH, WE WOULD CERTAINLY REPLACE EQUIPMENT THAT REPRESENTS A SAFETY RISK TO OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE TO GO ANOTHER YEAR ON A SEDAN OR A PICKUP TRUCK, WE COULD PROBABLY SURVIVE ON MOST OF THAT EQUIPMENT, BUT IT IS, DOES REPRESENT A SAVINGS FROM OUR STANDARD REPLACEMENT PROCESS THAT WE COULD ACHIEVE AIR.

AND I ESTIMATE I THINK 550,000 FOR THAT.

YEAH, I REMEMBER, UM, I REMEMBER FROM PAST AUDITS THAT SOMETIMES WE REPLACE THINGS TOWARD THE EARLIER SPECTRUM OF THAT RANGE, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR VEHICLES ARE, ARE, ARE REPLACED AHEAD OF, UM, LAND REPAIRS.

AND SO I FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID THAT, OF COURSE, IF THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT'S POSING A SAFETY HAZARD, THAT WOULD BE REPLACED IMMEDIATELY.

AND OF COURSE, AND THAT, UM, AND I ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT YOU WERE SHARING THAT.

SO, UM, THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS WHERE WE TOO NEED TO UTILIZE THEM LIKE KAOS AND OTHER KINDS OF FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS DETERMINED TO BE A NEED THAT NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT IN, IN CASE I, I FEEL PRETTY COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT REDUCTION IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

AGAIN, SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION.

I WOULD SUGGEST WE, NOT THAT WE REDUCED THE AMOUNT BY 300,000, SO THAT SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION CAN GO FORWARD.

AS I READ TWO AND THREE D UH, TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND THE DOWNTOWN AUSTIN CORE TRANSPORTATION PLAN TO ME, YOUR RESPONSE TO IN, IN SEVERAL OF THE MEMOS SEEMS TO BE SUGGESTING THAT THAT BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT CONDITIONS, A DELAY IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE INVESTMENTS THAT WERE PROPOSED IN FISCAL YEAR 21 IS OKAY.

UM, AND I WANT TO BE SURE THAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS ACCURATE WITH REGARD TO THE TDM PROGRAM.

YOU'VE MADE THE POINT IN THE MEMO THAT, THAT, UM, WEEKDAY VOLUMES ARE ABOUT 25% LOWER.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND SO, UH, AND THE SMART TRIPS IS NOT IMPACTED BY THIS REDUCTION, CORRECT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CONCERNS ABOUT REDUCING THE TDM PROGRAM AT THIS TIME BY THREE 50 COUNCIL MEMBER? I DO NOT RIGHT NOW FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, THAT PROGRAM IS FUNDED BY NON TOUGH FUNDS.

AND SO TERP FINES OR PARKING FUNDS, UH, PARDON ALL THE ACRONYMS. UH, SO THOSE REALLY NEED TO BE REDUCED IF WE'RE REDUCING THE, THE, UH, AWAY FUNDS, THE TERP FUNDS, THOSE REALLY DO NEED TO BE REDUCED.

AND IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO, UH, FOCUS AS THE COMMUNITY'S MAKING SOME VERY BIG DECISIONS ABOUT MULTIMODAL AUTISM.

UM, HERE THIS NEXT MONTH, IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO, UH, RE COORDINATE WITH OUR PARTNERS AND FIGURE OUT A WAY FORWARD ON THOSE.

SO I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT EITHER OF THOSE AND THE DOWNTOWN CORE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

OF COURSE, LIKE I SAID, WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON THAT.

UH, THERE'S SOME PROBABLY MAJOR PRONOUNCEMENTS COMING OUT OVER THE NEXT SIX TO 12 MONTHS.

WE ANTICIPATE WORKING WITH TEXTILES.

AND SO AS WE BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THAT TIES IN, I THINK WE WILL HAVE SOME STAFF COMING OFF OF THE STREET IMPACT FEE PROJECTS AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY LEAD THAT EFFORT.

AND SO, UH, I ACTUALLY THINK A SIX OR 12 MONTHS DELAY IS FINE THERE AS WELL.

GOOD.

SO IN BOTH OF THOSE CASES, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DEFER THOSE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE TRYING TO REALLOCATE THE FUNDING.

UH, FOR PLACEMAKING, BUT ALSO FOR INCREASED.

SO GREAT STREETS.

I NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THINKING ABOUT THE FIRST AS A POINT OF CLARITY IN YOUR EARLIER MEMO.

IT SAID IT WAS A SEVEN IN THE NINE 16 MEMO.

IT, IT TALKED ABOUT THIS AS A $750,000 TRANSFER TO GREAT STREETS HERE.

IT SAYS 800.

SO I IT'S ACTUALLY 728,000.

WE TRANSPOSED THE NUMBERS WHEN WE ROUND IT UP, BUT IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE 700 TO 800, 728,000 IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY TRANSFER OR, OR REQUIRING TO TRANSFER.

UH, AND THAT COMES FROM OUR PARKING REVENUE, AS YOU KNOW, UH, BUT THIS YEAR, AND NEXT YEAR WE HAVE THE UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING TO PROP UP THE PARKING FUND, UH, AND PAY FOR THE ENFORCEMENT, UH, USING TOUGH FUNDS, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE CAUSE WE'RE MANAGING THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THE TRANSFER OUT OF PARKING, WE'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR THAT TRANSFER, WHICH THEN FREES UP MONIES TO SUPPORT THE SAFE SPINE.

UM, UM, SO CAN YOU HELP, CAN YOU TALK US THROUGH WHAT THE, WHAT PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS MIGHT NOT GO FORWARD? YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SERIES OF COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, A MANAGER TO USE THE GREAT STREETS, SOME OF THE GREAT STREETS FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE REALLY NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WHEREVER,

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UM, I THINK MAYBE SOME LIGHTING, SOME OTHER KINDS OF STRUCTURAL CHANGES THAT TO IMPROVE THAT AREA, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ENOUGH GARBAGE CANS, UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

SO I WANT TO BE SURE, REALLY PROJECTS OF THAT SORT.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM.

I THINK IT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT TO PLACEMAKING THROUGHOUT DOWNTOWN AND DON'T WANT TO DERAIL ANYTHING PROJECT.

SO I NEED AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, WHAT MIGHT NOT GO FORWARD IF WE USED, UM, 728,000 IN THIS, IN THIS MANNER.

SO COUNSELOR, THIS IS ROB SPILLER.

I'M NOT SURE I CAN SPECIFICALLY GIVE YOU A WHAT DELAYS, BUT I WILL MAKE SURE I COORDINATE WITH THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO FIND OUT IF THERE WOULD BE ANY DELAYS.

I DO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A FUND BALANCE THERE THAT, THAT, SO THIS MAY BE A MINIMUM MINIMAL IMPACT, BUT I WOULD DEFER TO A DIRECTOR ON THAT AND I WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU BY THURSDAY OR BEFORE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A FUND BALANCE OF 6 MILLION.

SO IT MAY BE THAT THIS IS NOT, AS YOU SAID, WOULD HAVE A MINIMAL, COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A MINIMAL IMPACT, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET CLARITY ON THAT.

AND WHILE I'M THINKING ABOUT IT, UM, IN THE EARLIER MEMO OF THE NINE 16 MEMO, IT LISTS THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE TERM REVENUE AS 8.3 MILLION.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE I AND EVERYONE ELSE UNDERSTANDS THAT POINT, THAT WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE TAKING INTO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THIS YEAR IS PROJECTED TO BE MORE THAN IS PROJECTED TO BE ABOUT 8.4 MILLION.

I MEAN, 8.8 0.3, WE'LL SAY, OR 3.4 MILLION, AND YOU HAVE INCOMING UP AT THAT 3.7 FIGURE YOU'VE YOU'VE FACTORED BACKED OUT ALL OF THE SALARIES FOR TRANSPORTATION STAFF WHO ARE CURRENTLY FUNDED THROUGH RIGHT AWAY REVENUE, AS WELL AS ANY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH ADMINISTERING THAT PROGRAM.

I KNOW THAT'S CORRECT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S REALLY CLEAR BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A CONCERN THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD USING THE MONEY THIS WAY.

WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE NEED TO LAY OFF STAFF.

WE ARE NOT TAKING AWAY THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS AN ENTERPRISE FUNDS ABILITY TO, TO PAY FOR THE COSTS OF ADMINISTERING THOSE PROGRAMS. ALL OF THAT HAS COME OUT OF, OF THAT EIGHT POINT ALMOST 8.4 MILLION.

THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY, COOL.

I WANTED TO TALK FOR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TWO MORE, TWO MORE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO HIS MEMO.

AND THEN I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT THAT I CAN LEAVE IT THERE FOR MY COLLEAGUES UNDER THE FREEZE.

THE OTHER OPTION HERE IS LISTED AS FREE AS VACANT POSITIONS AND STUFF I'VE MENTIONED TO THEM.

AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR OUR, OUR MANAGER.

IT WAS, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN MANY DEPARTMENTS POSSIBLY ALL, UM, THERE WAS, EXCUSE ME, A HIRING FREEZE.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO MANAGER, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS AS THE SECOND TIME RECENTLY WHERE FUNDS ARE BEING ALLOCATED FROM PERSONNEL FUNDS, UM, APPEAR TO STILL BE IN, IN DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS, EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A HIRING FREEZE, I THINK IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT A FEW WEEKS AGO, IF I'M REMEMBERING THE LANGUAGE CORRECTLY, I THINK SOME OF THE MONEY FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION STAFF WAS COMING OUT OF, OF EMPLOYEE, UM, SALARY MONEY THAT WAS BUDGETED WITHIN EDD AND BECAUSE OF THE HIRING FREEZE, UM, THEY WOULDN'T BE HIRING FOR THOSE POSITIONS, BUT I, I GUESS I'M WONDERING, AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING APPROPRIATE FOR Q AND A, I'M WONDERING HOW MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS, ALL OF WHOM ARE, OR ALL OF WHICH ARE SUBJECT TO THE HIRING FREEZE ALREADY HAVE MONEY IN THEIR BUDGETS, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HIRING, HAVE MONEY IN THEIR BUDGETS FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR REFLECTIVE OF, OF SOME OF THE SALARY COSTS.

WE HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR MAKING ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE HIRING FREEZE, BUT I ALSO OFFER ADVANCE, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO CHIME IN ABOUT JUST THE MECHANICS OF HOW THAT IS IMPACTING INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT BUDGETS.

SHARE CITY MANAGER, DEPUTY DEPUTY CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE CITY.

SO WE DO HAVE A HIRING FREEZE IN PLACE.

IT REMAINS IN PLACE.

UM, WE HAVE BUILT VACANCY SAVINGS INTO DEPARTMENT BUDGETS TO, UM, REFLECT THAT HIRING FREEZE.

I THINK PART OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DURATION OF HOW LONG, UM, WE ARE EXPECTING, WHICH MAY BE, UM, SOMEWHAT MORE ON A DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT BASIS, WHAT THE ANTICIPATION OF THE DURATION OF THE HIRING FREEZE WILL BE.

AND SO THERE IS STILL SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR DEPARTMENTS TO, UM, CONTINUAL HIRING FREEZE, THE FREEZE, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME INTO FISCAL YEAR 21, WHICH OF COURSE WOULD RESULT

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IN ADDITIONAL SAVINGS.

THAT'LL DEPEND UPON THE HORSE THAT COVID-19 GOES IN THE COURSE THAT OUR ECONOMIC RECOVERY GOES AND THEREBY THE CITY FINANCES.

SO, UM, WHILE THE TAGGING FREEZES IN PLACE, THE NUMBERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY ETCHED IN STONE BECAUSE IT'S DEPENDENT UPON, UM, HOW LONG IT WILL REMAIN IN PLACE.

UM, THE MEMO ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, STAFF AUGMENTATION.

AND SO I MAY TURN BACK TO DIRECTOR SPILLER TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STAFF AUGMENTATION PLAYS A PIECE AS WELL, AND YOU KNOW, HOW OVER TIME OR, UM, UM, PERHAPS CONSULTANTS, STAFF AUGMENTATION, UM, THAT AREN'T SUBJECT TO THE FREEZE COULD BE UTILIZED IF THERE SOME CRITICAL NEEDS THAT OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE IN, IN THIS PART OF THE PLAN, HE HAS HIGH COUNCIL MEMBER.

THIS IS ROD SPILLER.

UM, I CAN ONLY SPEAK ABOUT ATD THAT, THAT WE USE, UH, AUGMENTATION TO FILL IN GAPS IN OUR PROFESSIONAL, UH, CAPABILITIES, UH, SPECIFICALLY IN OUR DESIGN AND SOME OF OUR OPERATION AREAS WHERE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WE MADE A DECISION THAT WAS A BETTER BUSINESS APPROACH TO HIRE THAT EXPERTISE, UH, ON A LONGTERM BASIS, FIVE TO SIX YEAR BASIS, AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND SO WE DO RELY ON A NUMBER OF AUGMENTED PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT WE WOULD OTHERWISE NOT BE ABLE TO COMPETE FOR IN THE MARKET TO HAVE AS FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

AND SO THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE QUITE A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR A NUMBER OF OUR DESIGN AND OPERATION AREAS.

YEAH, THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES GOOD SENSE TO ME, BUT I GUESS I'M WONDERING, SO THERE ARE TWO, TWO QUESTIONS HERE.

ONE IS, AND I THINK MAYBE I'LL ASK THIS QUESTION OFFLINE, OR MAYBE TRY TO FOR THAT, MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR RESPONSE.

I GUESS I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS MIGHT HAVE FUNDING BUILT INTO THEIR DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET FOR POSITIONS THAT THEY WILL NOT BE HIRING FOR WHILE WE HAVE A HIRING FREEZE, BUT THAT WE CAN, WE CAN TAKE OUT MAYBE OUTSIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION, THE, WITH REGARD TO THIS, UM, NUMBER FIVE, THE VACANT POSITIONS AND THE STAFF AUGMENTATION AND LANGUAGE SAYS THAT FOR HIRING VACANT POSITIONS, WHICH YOU ARE AT THE MOMENT ANYWAY, BECAUSE OF THE HIGH INCREASE AND REDUCE UTILIZATION OF STAFF AUGMENTATION, DO YOU HAVE MONEY ELSEWHERE IN YOUR BUDGET TO HIRE CONSULTANTS? IF YOU NEED TO, IT SAYS, REDUCE IT, DOESN'T SAY ELIMINATE ENTIRELY THE BUDGET OR CONSULTANTS.

SO I'M ASSUMING YOU STILL HAVE SOME FUNDING IN YOUR BUDGET.

YES, WE DO COUNCIL FOR INSTANCE, FOR, UH, THAT THE DOWNTOWN PLAN, UM, WE LIKELY NEED CONSULTING HELP WITH SOME OF THE DETAILED SIMULATION MODELING.

AND SO WE'VE MAINTAINED ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND OF THAT PLANNED BUDGET FOR THAT AUGMENTATION TO OUR INTERNAL STAFF.

WE WOULD LIKELY TURN TO ONE OF OUR, UH, AUGMENTATION THAT'S ALREADY ON STAFF OR ALREADY WORKING FOR US TO PROVIDE THAT CAPABILITY.

AND SO YES, WE DO STILL HAVE MONIES FOR SPECIFIC PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS.

GREAT.

SO IN, IN REDUCING THAT AMOUNT FROM THE ALMOST 8.4 DOWN TO 3.7, YOU'VE ALREADY FACTORED OUT SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD FOR WHICH YOU NEED CONSULTANTS OR OTHER KINDS OF ASSISTANCE.

AND YOU HAVEN'T DETAILED THAT FOR US, THAT, YOU KNOW, 5 MILLION MINUTES.

UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED TO SEE IT, BUT I WOULD SAY IF THERE ARE ANY, YOU KNOW, IF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ANY OF THESE ELEMENTS, MAYBE WE DO NEED TO SEE, SEE THAT DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF WHAT MONEY HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THAT RIGHT AWAY.

UM, TO KEEP THOSE, THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE IN YOUR DISCRETION HAVE SAID, YOU NEED TO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, RIGHT? AND COUNCIL MEMBER, IF I CAN JUST MAKE ONE CORRECTION, UH, WE HAVEN'T TAKEN IT NECESSARILY OUT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FEES.

WE'VE TAKEN IT OUT OF OUR BUDGET OF WHICH RIGHT AWAY FEES HELP TO SUPPORT.

AND SO, UM, BY REDUCING OUR, UM, EXPENDITURES ON VACANCIES AND SO FORTH USING FOR INSTANCE, TOUGH, WE CAN SWING THAT MONEY INTO OTHER PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT OTHER PROGRAMS WHERE WE'RE PULLING TERP MONEY OUT OF IT.

AND SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT IT'S ALL DIRT MONEY THAT WE'RE SAVING THEM.

GOT IT.

THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND THEN I THINK MY LAST QUESTION FOR THE MOMENT ABOUT, FOR YOU TO DIRECTOR SPILLER IS DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY OVER THE BREAK TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE FUND BALANCES THAT YOU, YOU THINK YOU MIGHT CLOSE OUT ANYWAY? UM, YES.

UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED, BUT IF YOU'LL LET ME EXPLAIN IT, HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE CLEAR.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF OUR COVID IMPACTED BUDGET, UH, ATD HAD PLANNED TO HAVE AN ENDING BALANCE OF 8.5 MILLION, UH, FOR OUR APPROVED BUDGET.

UH, WE HAD PLANNED TO USE 7.7 MILLION OF THAT FUND BALANCE TO MEET OUR PROGRAM NEEDS AND MAINTAIN FUND SOLVENCY.

AND SO THAT MEANS GOING INTO FYI 22, WE WOULD HAVE PASSED OR PLAN TO PASS 800,000 TO START THAT NEXT BUDGET .

AND SO THOSE FUNDS ARE THERE IN CASE

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OF AN EMERGENCIES, UH, OVER THE DECADE WE'VE BEEN HERE, WE'VE NEVER HAD TO REALLY TAP THOSE, BUT LAST YEAR, AND THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD TO TAP THAT FUND BALANCE TO DEAL WITH THE EMERGENCY.

AND AS I INDICATED AT THE END OF CLOSE ONE FOR FYI 20 THOUGH, WE FOUND THAT WE HAD AN ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION IN AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE DUE TO PROBABLY BOTH RIGHT AWAY FEES AND SOME IMPROVING PARKING FEES.

SO WE HAD PROJECTED A PRETTY DISMAL PARKING REVENUE AFTER COVID, UH, RESPONSE, BUT IT STARTED TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

AND SO AGAIN, WE'VE HAD TO SUPPLEMENT THAT A LITTLE BIT LESS.

SO YOU'VE ASKED FOR COUNSEL HAS ASKED FOR 3.7 MILLION TO THE SAGE.

AND SO ATD IS PROPOSING TO USE ABOUT 1.2 MILLION OF THAT NEWLY FOUND FUND BALANCE IN FYI 21 IN A WAY THAT'S SHOWN IN THE FUND OR THE ORDINANCE BUDGET ORDINANCES THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE MAINTAINING EXPENSES OF ABOUT 1.2 MILLION.

SO WE'RE NOT QUITE GIVING UP 3.7 MILLION IN EXPENSES.

WE'RE GIVING UP THE REVENUE FOR THE SAVES APP, BUT WE'RE MAINTAINING ABOUT 1.2 MILLION IN EXPENSES THAT ALLOWS US TO USE SOME MORE OF THAT FUND BALANCE.

AND THAT WOULD END UP WITH AN ANOTHER 700,000 TO PAST .

I WANT TO JUST POINT OUT THAT WHEN YOU ADD THOSE TWO TOGETHER, THAT'S ONLY ABOUT 2% OF OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.

AND SO IT'S PRETTY SLAMMED.

IF ANOTHER EMERGENCY COMES, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO, AS THEY SAY, PULL THE RABBIT OUT OF THE HAT ON THIS ONE, UH, IN GOING INTO .

AND SO WE'RE REALLY AT A PRETTY SLIM MARGIN OF ABOUT 2%, UH, GOING FORWARD.

SO I WOULD ASK IF YOU DON'T MIND, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.

THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.

I COULDN'T FOLLOW ALL OF THE DETAILS OF IT.

UM, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THAT INTO THE Q AND A SO THAT WE DON'T MIND ALL THAT WOULD BE SUPER HELPFUL, BUT AS I, BUT MY TAKEAWAY FROM IT IS THAT YOU ENDED UP WITH MORE REMAINING FUNDS IN FISCAL YEAR 20, THEN YOU ANTICIPATED, UM, AND AT LEAST 1.2 MILLION ONE, AT LEAST 1.2 MILLION OF THEM CAN GO TOWARD BUILDING BACK SOME OF THIS REPORT, OTHER THAN THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TAKING CASH.

SO THAT MAY CHANGE MY CONSIDERATION OF, OF WHETHER WE USE ALL 3.7 OR NOT, I GUESS, BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WENT FORWARD, LIKE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT.

MAYBE IT WILL TO GO AHEAD ANYWAY.

AND I TOLD ME EXPLAIN TO BE ABLE TO GO AHEAD, RIGHT? YES.

I DO WANT TO EXPLAIN ONE THING ABOUT THE SIGNALS.

YOU KNOW, WE RANKED SIGNALS THAT ARE NEEDING TO REBUILT ALL OVER THE CITY BASED ON A SEVERITY OF CRASHES, THE NUMBER OF TRIPS AND, AND CONGESTION.

AND THAT'S THE ONE SIGNAL THAT'S ON THE BUBBLE OF BEING ABLE TO DO OR NOT BEING ABLE TO DO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

AND SO I'M NOT PICKING ON ONE SIGNAL INTERSECTION OR ANOTHER, THAT'S JUST GOING TO FIND UP IN THE PRIORITY.

SO, YEAH.

AND, AND IT SEEMS REALLY CRITICAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO JEOPARDIZE THAT.

WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED OTHER FUNDS TO COVER IT.

I THINK WE, THEN I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE CLEAR ON IT.

YES, I'M USING IT.

THAT'S THAT'S VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE FUNDING THERE, BUT AS YOU DO THE ANALYSIS OF EACH, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

MA'AM AND I'LL STILL RESPOND IN Q AND A THANKS TO SHOW YOU THAT MATH.

YEAH, I DO BETTER WHEN I READ YES.

AS I DO.

THANK YOU, KATHY.

THANKS FOR BRINGING THESE THINGS FORWARD.

UM, I THINK SOME OF THEM MIGHT HAVE PROMISED, UH, IF YOU CAN FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, THE, THE BUSINESS, UH, FUND ROWERS, HAVE WE GRABBED MONEY? DO WE USE IT RIGHT AWAY? WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT KIND OF THING? UH, SO THAT I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR THINKING WAS WITH RESPECT TO THAT, BUT WITH RESPECT TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU JUST ASKED, ROB, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE VEHICLE YEARS IS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE, UH, GIVEN WHERE YOU ARE, UH, THE SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION.

I AGREE WITH, UH, UH, KATHY PROBABLY NOT A PLACE TO GO.

THE TVM AND ACT ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS YOU NEED TO DELAY THOSE ANYHOW EVEN CHANGES IN EVENTS.

UH, SO IT'S NOT WHETHER WE WERE DOING SAVES OR NOT.

THAT GETS US TO THE GREAT STREETS AND TO THE FREE STAFF THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A LONGER LOOK AT.

AND THEN THEY'D COME BACK WITH MORE DETAILS ON THAT ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT PUT AT RISK IN THE GREAT STREETS, IF SOMEBODY'S DEVELOPING SOMEWHERE AND LOSING THE STREETSCAPE WITH SOMEBODY'S DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ONCE GONE IS GOING TO BE VERY HARD TO, TO BE ABLE TO RETRIEVE.

SO MAKE SURE THAT PLEASE ROB IT.

THAT'S PART OF YOUR ANALYSIS.

AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO THE FREEZING OF THE STAFF, UH, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND LET US KNOW IF THERE'S, WE'RE LOSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING OR FOR A RIGHT OF WAY, OR A DESIGN INPUT FOR PROJECTS OR SLOWING DOWN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND PERMITTING OR MISSED OPPORTUNITIES FOR FASTER, UH, UH, LESS DISRUPTIVE WORK, UH, BY, BY DOING WORK, YOU KNOW, TOGETHER WITH OTHER PROJECTS, THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS AS IF THERE'S

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IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT CATHY ASKED YOU TO TAKE LOOK, YES, MR. MAYOR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO LEAD ANYONE ASTRAY WHEN YOU WIN, YOU KNOW, MONEY'S FLOW OUT OF A APPROVED BUDGET THAT THERE IS A, UM, A SUBSEQUENT IMPACT.

WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.

AND, UH, AS I COMMITTED TO ORIGINALLY, BUT TO BE CLEAR, MAKE SURE YOU GIVE IT A FAIR HARRIS AIRING TO WHAT IT IS THAT IS THE OPPORTUNITY COST.

SO THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO MEET THE REQUESTED NEED, BUT THE COUNCIL HAS REALLY FAIR NOTICE OF WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY COSTS ARE IF WE WERE DECIDED TO GO THAT WAY.

UM, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON EITHER THE REPORT BRIEFING THAT CAME OR FROM, UM, KATHY'S, UH, RESOLUTIONS, WHICH I GUESS WERE THE PULLED ITEMS THAT YOU PULLED? UM, STEPHANIE ONE, I GUESS, WERE, WERE, WE COULD ASK QUESTIONS ON EITHER 70, 71 WHEN WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE, 70, 71, 72, UH, 73, 74, 75 ARE THE ONES THAT MOST CLOSELY WENT THROUGH THE PROPOSAL.

UH, SO WITH RESPECT TO THOSE, UM, ANY OTHER FURTHER, FURTHER QUESTIONS.

THE DOLLARS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE FUND.

THEN WE'LL GO TO OTHER POLL ASKED CATHY, I'M SORRY.

I DID HAVE A COUPLE MORE.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER QUESTION THAT YOU RAISED.

SO THIS WAS REALLY, UM, AND THANKS TO SHANNON HOLLY FOR COMING UP WITH THIS REVENUE IDEA AND BRINGING IT AND SUGGESTING IT TO ME SO I COULD BRING IT FORWARD.

IT REALLY WAS IN SUPPORT OF YOUR SAVES RESOLUTION.

AND SO IT WAS JUST, UM, ABOUT IDENTIFYING ANOTHER REVENUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT WORK.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF GETS BACK TO THAT OTHER, THAT EARLIER QUESTION I RAISED ABOUT WHETHER, WHETHER WE ADJUST, UM, THE FUNDING, YES.

BUDGET, AMENDMENT POSTINGS THAT WE HAVE, SO THAT WE END UP WITH THE SAME AMOUNT, BUT, YOU KNOW, USE A LITTLE LESS FROM HERE AND THERE, OR WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL OF THEM AND, AND THEN HAVE THAT FUNDING AVAILABLE TO USE, TO SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES AND REGROUP, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT'S LEFT OVER FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR, IF THERE IS LEFTOVER.

SO THAT'S, THAT KIND OF GETS US BACK TO, SO THAT'S REALLY MY ANSWER TO THAT.

UM, UM, BUT FOR WHAT OR HOW I WOULD REVIVE, I'M NOT SURE HOW I WOULD ANSWER THAT FOR MYSELF, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

ONE, ONE OPTION THAT, THAT AS I SIT HERE, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO ME IS TO TAKE THE FUNDING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, PUT IT INTO THAT BUSINESS FUND.

UM, BUT LEAVE THE MONEY SITTING THERE UNTIL WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FIVE AND THE FIVE AND THE FIVE TO SEE IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT, IF THEY WORK, IF THEY NEED MORE, HOW IT MIGHT BE ALLOCATED.

UH, BUT GIVEN THE CONVERSATION WE HAD THIS MORNING, IT MIGHT BE THAT IF THERE'S MONEY THERE, WE COULD IMMEDIATELY TAKE OUT OF THAT FUND, THE, UM, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES FEES, UH, THAT SEVERAL OF US TALKED ABOUT THIS MORNING AND TALKED ABOUT IT AS WELL, THE KIND OF THE ATTORNEYS, THE CPAS, UH, TO ACTUALLY HELP WITH THOSE OTHER THREE FIVES SO THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING A CORPUS OF THOSE BUDS FOR THAT PURPOSE, MAYBE EVEN THE ADMINISTRATIVE MONIES, UH, BUT THEN LEAVING THE BULK OF THAT FUND, KATHY, THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE CREATED SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET SPENT SOMEWHERE ELSE SO THAT IT SITS THERE.

UH, AND I GUESS THAT IT WOULD KNOW THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THAT THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.

IT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY, I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY INTERESTING IDEA.

UM, AND, AND AGAIN, IF WE DIDN'T NEED ALL THAT FUNDING, IT WOULD BE THERE AVAILABLE FOR REALLOCATION IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, IF WE, IF WE FOUND OR IF WE FOUND HIGHER PRIORITY NEEDS OR ADDITIONAL NEEDS.

UM, SO THAT'S, UH, I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA AND IT'S VERY RESPONSIVE TO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD.

AND THEN I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.

UM, MAYOR, I WANTED TO COMMENT ON THAT BEFORE AND IT LOOKED LIKE ALISON DID TOO.

SO ANNE, WHY DON'T YOU GO AND THEN ALLISON, OH, SORRY.

OH, I SAID, I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT, UM, UH, MAYOR THAT YOUR, YOUR CONCEPT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF USING THOSE DOLLARS FOR THAT, I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE THE DOLLARS WE'VE IDENTIFIED THROUGH ATD FOR

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I WOULD NOT WANT TO DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT THE DECISION I WOULD MAKE, UH, IF I WAS GOING TO PRIORITIZE AMONGST ALL THOSE ONES IN FRONT OF US.

UM, AND, UM, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THE, THAT THE PROGRAM SET, WE ARE MOVING DOLLARS OUT FROM ATD.

I THINK THEY'RE IMPORTANT PROGRAMS. UM, AND, BUT I APPRECIATE, UM, UH, DIRECTOR SPILL OR LETTING US KNOW THAT, THAT SOME OF THOSE THINGS, UH, CAN BE DEFERRED WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THEIR CON CONTINUATION.

SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

I, I DO WANT HIM TO, I DO WANT THE DIRECTOR TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED ME.

SO ANYWAY, I WOULD THINK MORE IN TERMS OF, OF, UM, THESE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS BEING USED TO SUPPLEMENT, BUT NOT REPLACE WHAT WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED FOR SAVES AND NOT FOR SAVES FOR.

THANK YOU, ALLISON.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS STAFF OR WHOM, BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY, CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT 3,700,000 WAS PART OF OUR 15 MILLION BECAUSE THE PROPERTY TAX OR NOT THAT THE SALES TAX ADDITION, I DON'T THINK EXCEEDED 15 MILLION.

SO I HAD THOUGHT THAT THE 3,700,000 WAS ALREADY INCLUDED THAT.

SO IF STAFF OR SOMEBODY CAN MAYBE ADD ANY, NO, CAN JUST WALK ME THROUGH THAT AGAIN SO THAT I CAN MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE, THAT I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

SO THE 3.7 MILLION WAS PART OF THE 15 MILLION THAT STAFF PROPOSED ON OCTOBER.

FIRST COUNCIL DID NOT APPROVE THE 3.7 MILLION AT THAT TIME.

AND INSTEAD DIRECTED STAFF TO COME BACK ON OCTOBER 15TH WITH UTILIZING SALES TAX REVENUES THAT ARE COMING IN ABOVE WHAT WE HAD INITIALLY PROJECTED TO GET TO THE $15 MILLION.

SO, UM, THAT'S THAT, THAT ACTION IS ON, YOU'RE JUST PART OF THE 8.5 MILLION.

UM, UH, THE AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW WHAT APPROPRIATE 8.5 MILLION, THAT $3.7 MILLION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS PART OF THAT 8.5 MILLION THAT WE ARE BRINGING BACK GIVEN COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON OCTOBER 1ST, BUT ON OCTOBER 1ST, UM, THERE IS ALSO DIRECTION PROVIDED BY COUNCIL TO, UM, COME BACK WITH, UM, UH, AN ITEM TO APPROPRIATE RIGHT AWAY FEES, UM, TO A BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE, UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS 3.7 MILLION IS FOR WHAT WAS SIX AND A HALF THAT WAS APPROVED AND ALLOCATED TO THE 15TH A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

WHERE'D THAT COME FROM? UM, THE, THE, THE SIX AND A HALF MILLION WAS, UH, PREDOMINANTLY FROM A CHANGING HOW WE'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT FUNDING, THE UPGRADE OF THE HUMAN CAPITAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAD.

PRE-FUNDED THE GENERAL FUNDS COMPONENT OF THAT PROJECT.

WE'RE GOING TO STILL DO THE PROJECT, BUT WILL, AS IT GETS PHASED IN OVER THE COURSE OF THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THE GENERAL FUND WILL HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO FREE UP THAT $6 MILLION OF PRE-FUNDING AND THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN THERE WAS $500,000, WHICH WAS A SMALL REDUCTION TO OUR ANNUAL CAPITAL REPLENISHMENT FUNDS.

GO AHEAD, ALLISON.

SO AT, UM, DO YOU THINK WE COULD GET THIS IN WRITING? CAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT I'M FOLLOWING IT ALL AND I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THERE ANY AMBIGUITY.

SO IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, UM, BEFORE WE CAME ON OCTOBER 1ST, THERE WAS A PROPOSAL FOR 15 MILLION.

IT DID INCLUDE THIS 3.7.

WE PAUSED ON THAT, BUT THERE WAS 6.5 MILLION THAT WE AGREED ON.

AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO DO THE BALANCE TO THE 15 MILLION FROM PROPERTY SALES TAX FROM SALES TAX, SORRY.

FROM SALES TAX.

UM, SO THAT WAS 8.5 AND THAT'S THE 8.5 THAT'S ON OUR, ON OUR AGENDA FROM THE, THE EMERGENCY RESERVE.

THEN THERE'S ON OUR AGENDA.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT FOR THE FOOD PROGRAM WITH GOOD WORKS, AUSTIN, ET CETERA, AS AN ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURE OUT OF THE RESERVE.

UM, AND THEN THIS 3.7 THAT I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO HAS IDENTIFIED THE NOTION IS THAT IT WOULD GO TO A BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND, WHICH WOULD BE A FOURTH FUND YEAH.

LOCATION FOR PROVIDING COVID RELIEF.

AND THAT IS NOT, THAT IS THE SAME 3.7 THAT WAS ORIGINALLY IN YOUR OCTOBER 1ST OR IS DIFFERENT.

AND THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND WAS TO HAVE FUNDING GO INTO IT FROM THESE RIGHT AWAY FEES.

AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A RESOLUTION DIRECTING STAFF TO COME BACK WITH, UM, ANY, UM, STREET AND ALLEYWAY VACATION SALES OR ENCROACHMENT FEE REVENUES THAT EXCEED WHAT WE NEED TO PAY FOR THE STAFF, UM, AND WHAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN OUR BUDGET ALREADY.

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IT'S THE SAME, THE RIGHT OF WAY FEE REVENUE IS THE SAME 3.7 MILLION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON OCTOBER 1ST.

UM, BUT ON OCTOBER 1ST, WE DID PROPOSE SOME FEE INCREASES IN ATB IN ORDER TO OFFSET THAT REVENUE LOSS.

AND THAT'S THE PART OF IT, THE COUNCIL DIDN'T SUPPORT.

AND SO THAT WHOLE ASPECT WAS NOT APPROVED ON THE FIRST.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK TODAY, LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE FOR REACHING INTO THAT 3.7 MILLION.

UM, BUT ONE THAT RELIES ON THAT HAS SERVICE CONSEQUENCES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

AND IS THERE ANOTHER, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER POT THAT I'M MISSING.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ALL OF THE PIECES IN ORDER AND WE'RE NOT CONFUSED.

THERE'S A POT THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

WE JUST HAVE THE 8.5 IN SALES TAXES, THE 1.5 FOR THE OTHER, FOR THE FOOD PROGRAM, WE HAVE THE 6.5 WE IDENTIFIED AT THE PRIOR MEETING.

UM, SO WE'RE AT 15 MILLION FOR THE SAVES THREE BUCKETS, 1.5 FOR THE FOOD BUCKET.

AND NOW WE ARE IDENTIFYING THE 3.7 GOING INTO THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND.

WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT NUMBER 80 AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON THE, ON THE VISITOR INFORMATION, WHICH WE HAVE, WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION YET.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER ONE ON THERE, I THINK WOULD BE ITEM, UM, UM, 72, I BELIEVE, WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH, UM, ANY, UH, STREET AND ALLEY VACATION SALES OR ENCROACHMENT FEES THAT, THAT ARE MORE THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED.

WE HAVE ALREADY ASSUMED $800,000 IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FROM THOSE REVENUE SOURCES, BUT AT THOSE REVENUES COME IN HIGHER THAN THAT STAFF WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MOVE THOSE DOLLARS INTO THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FORM.

AND THE 3.7 IS ALSO GOING INTO THE BUSINESS FREDERICK YES.

OR SOME PORTION OR SOME ENFORCEMENT.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INDULGENCE.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR ON ALL OF THE PIECES.

THANK YOU, AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY ROLE, JUST NOTE THAT THOSE FOUR ITEMS FROM BUDGET THAT WERE BEING DESCRIBED NUMBER 69, 70 71 AND 72 AS MR. MANDINO MENTIONED, THEY ARE DIRECT RESULTS OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL GAVE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

KATHY, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR.

THAT WAS LIKE, THAT WAS REALLY USEFUL TO KIND OF LAY OUT THE EVOLUTION OF THAT.

AND, UM, JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN, THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND WAS REALLY JUST A NAME I CREATED TO SUPPORT THE STATE OF.

SO I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO BE WEDDED TO THAT.

UM, IT'S REALLY TO DO THE SAME THING.

THE INTENT WAS, UH, JUST TO SUPPORT THOSE VENUES, BUT ALSO TO CREATE A DEDICATED FUNDING STREAM FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO I HOPE EMBEDDED WITHIN WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THE ACTION THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING ON THURSDAY IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WITH REGARD TO STREET NALLEY VACATIONS AND RIGHT AWAY FEES THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD ALSO LOOK TO CREATING THAT FOR A VERY LIMITED PERIOD OF TIME, UM, CREATING THAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IN UPCOMING BUDGET CYCLES.

AND THEN, AND I DO HAVE THIS JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION AND ITEM 71, WE GOT ABOUT, WE GOT A FISCAL NOTE AND THEN WE GOT A REVISED FISCAL NOTE AND I'M STRUGGLING TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DIFFERENT.

AND I JUST DECIDED IT WOULD BE FASTEST FOR ME TO ASK YOU ED MMM.

OR DIRECTOR SPILLER.

IF, IF YOU COULD JUST POINT US TO WRITE THE DIFFERENCES.

I THINK THE ONLY DIFFERENCE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THOSE COUNCIL MEMBER IS THE, UM, THE F Y 21 AMENDED BEGINNING BALANCE.

I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.

THE VARIOUS ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED ARE ALL KIND OF CONNECTED.

SO ASSUMING THE COUNCIL APPROVES THE 1.5 MILLION THAT AFFECTS THE BEGINNING BALANCE, AND WE JUST KIND OF HAD THAT CONNECTEDNESS INCORRECT, UM, ON ITEM 72 AND 73.

SO THE REVISED VERSIONS JUST KIND OF SYNCS UP THOSE THREE ITEMS IN ANTICIPATION THAT THEY WOULD ALL APPROVE, BE APPROVED AND THE ORDER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKEN UP BY COUNCILS.

SUPER THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WAS PULLED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER OF HARPER MADISON.

COLLEGE, I THINK THAT GETS US PAST THESE ITEMS. LET'S GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE LIST OF THE POLL ITEMS AND WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THAT.

I HAD REMEMBER 21

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THE, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? SO A FEE ACQUISITION.

SO ITEM NUMBER 21 WAS, IS THAT THE ONE WHERE IT'S 2.2, ONE, FOUR ACRES OF LAND, UM, AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, IT'S BEHIND THAT PARKING GARAGE NEAR THEIR REI ALONG THE SHOW CREEK TRAIL.

YEAH, I'M WORKING ON IT, WORKING ON IT.

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I PULLED THIS ONE BECAUSE I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE 1.174, TWO 50, A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS PARTICULAR 0.2, ONE, FOUR ACRES OF LAND CAUGHT MY ATTENTION.

JUST LIKE TO MAYBE AS STAFF, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RATIONALE HERE.

UM, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE PART THAT I NEED TO ASK ABOUT HOW THEY WENT ABOUT SELECTING THIS SITE.

WHY WHAT'S THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY? IS THIS A GOOD COST OPPORTUNITY? I JUST HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM.

SO THIS IS KIMBERLY MCNEIL.

I DIDN'T START MY VIDEO.

I APOLOGIZE KIMBERLY MCNEALY FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

SO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND WAS SELECTED FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, BUT ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS IS BECAUSE IT'S HARD BECAUSE STUART WOOD STREET SETTLEMENT, WHICH WAS, UM, ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS HISTORICAL COMMISSION, UM, THERE WAS A DISTINCT ENCLAVE OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND LATER MEXICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS FROM THE CIVIL WAR THAT LIVED IN THIS SPACE, EVEN POST, UM, POST THE AGREEMENT, I'M SORRY, POST THE NINETIES.

SO THERE IS ALREADY A HISTORICAL MARKER THERE THAT DESIGNATES THAT SPACE AND IT'S RIGHT ALONG SHOAL CREEK.

AND SO IT ALLOWS US AN OPPORTUNITY IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CREEK CONSERVANCY TO PROVIDE SOME TRAIL ACCESS THAT'S ADA ACCESSIBLE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTERPRET THAT SPACE AND TO ALLOW IT FOR IT, TO BE A STOPPING POINT ON THE TRAIL FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ON THE TRAIL TO UNDERSTAND, UM, THE HISTORY OF, OF AUSTIN, AND TO INTERPRET THAT SPACE IN A WAY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN INTERPRETED BEFORE THE SHOAL CREEK CONSERVANCY HAS BEEN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, UM, REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR IDEA.

AND THEY ARE ON WILLING TO ASSIST IN, IN PARTNERSHIP IN, UM, THE, THE INTERPRETIVE SPACE AND PAYING FOR THE INTERPRETATION OF THAT.

WE'VE, WE'VE NOT TALKED TO IN DEPTH ABOUT THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY COMMITTED AS PARTNERS.

ALSO, THIS FUNDING IS FROM, UM, PARKLAND DEDICATION FUNDS.

SO IT IS NOT COMING FROM CAPITAL FUNDING OR IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE BOND FUNDING IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM IT'S COMING FROM, UH, PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES AND THOSE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES, AS, AS EVERYBODY I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW.

AND SO I DON'T WANT TO BORE YOU WITH THE DETAILS, BUT THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC CRITERIA CRITERIA BY WHICH THOSE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES CAN BE USED AND THERE TO BE USED IN THAT PARTICULAR PLANNING AREA.

AND SO THOSE FEES ALL COME FROM AREAS WHICH ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PURCHASE THIS LAND WITHOUT ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TOUCHING CIP MONEY OR, OR BOND MONEY FROM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

UM, I WOULD LET ALEX SCALE FROM REAL ESTATE, UM, SPEAK TO THE PRICE, BUT WE ARE ONLY PERMITTED TO BUY ITEMS, UM, CERTIFIED PIECES OF LAND FROM, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN VALUED AT A FAIR MARKET PRICE.

AND SO HE CAN, UM, THAT PROCESS, BUT I'M ALSO PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM PART'S PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE COUNCIL NUMBER NATASHA, IF YOU'RE TALKING YOU'RE MUTED.

I SAID, I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU STICKING AROUND AND JUST TO SORT OF GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ABOUT THE DIRECTION I'M HEADING.

I'M GOING TO HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, UH, SPENDING A MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS REAL FUNKY LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT FRANKLY LOOKING AT IT DOESN'T SEEM ESPECIALLY, UM, WELL SUITED FOR INTERPRETIVE PROGRAMMING.

UM, AND WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE THE INTENT, IT DOESN'T SEEM VERY ACCESSIBLE AT ALL, OR PARTICULARLY INVITING GIVEN THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT IT'S BEHIND A PARKING GARAGE.

UM, I COULD SEE THE, THIS BEING A POTENTIAL ACCESS POINT FOR, UM, SHOW CREEK, UM, WITH INTERPRETIVE PROGRAMMING HONORING THE BLACK HISTORY OF THE AREA AT DUNCAN PARK, BUT AT, I MEAN, THIS PRICE TAG JUST SEEMS SO STEEP TO ME FOR AN ACCESS POINT.

UM, PARTICULARLY ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT TO ME LOOKS UNDEVELOPABLE AND HAS LOW RISK FOR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO I, I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKS SPECIFIC COMPONENT.

UM, SO I CAN JUST KEEP ASKING YOU QUESTIONS OR WE CAN JUMP OVER TO ALEX ABOUT THE COST AND THE,

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SO I FINISHED THE PARKS.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN FINISH SOME OF THAT.

PLEASE DO ADMITTEDLY.

IT IS A NARROW STRETCH.

IT IS A NARROW STRETCH OF PIECE OF LAND, BUT I THINK YOU HIT THE COUPLE OF POINTS THAT WE BELIEVE AS APPROXIMATE RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT ARE IMPORTANT, IS IT THAT IT PROVIDES ACCESSIBILITY TO THE TRAIL? IT'S ANOTHER ACCESS POINT.

IT'S A POINT THAT PEOPLE CAN COME UP FROM OR GO DOWN TO, TO THE SHOAL CREEK TRAIL AND WE'LL, AND I THINK THE WORD ACCESSIBILITY, WHEN I SAY POSSIBILITY, WE CAN MAKE AN ADA ACCESSIBLE AND NOT ALL POINTS.

UM, THE TRAIL RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A SORT OF A SOCIAL TRAIL OR A SOCIAL ACCESS POINT THAT PEOPLE ARE USING ALREADY IN THAT SPACE, BUT WE CAN MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE AND APPROPRIATELY ACCESSIBLE.

UM, IT ALSO PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR US TO, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UH, THE OPPORTUNITIES.

WELL, I THINK I ALREADY SAID THIS, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR, FOR THE CULTURAL HERITAGE AND I REALIZED THAT IT'S NOT A LARGE SPOT, BUT I THINK THAT IT HAS SOME SIGNIFICANCE.

AND I THINK THAT OUR, OUR INTENTION WAS TO HIGHLIGHT IT PIECE OF LAND AND A SUMMIT, A SIGNIFICANT SPACE, UM, THAT, UH, THAT STOOD THE TEST OF TIME THROUGH THE 1970S.

AND TO BE ABLE TO TELL THAT SECOND STORY, UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY ACCESSING THE SPACE, UM, BASED UPON OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE SHOAL CREEK CONSERVANCY.

AND SO IT'S JUST THAT IT'S NOT A, UH, A, UM, AN OFFICIAL TRAIL HEAD THAT IS FULLY ACCESSIBLE.

UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH THE CLASS, BUT I THINK THAT ALEX GAIL CAN EXPLAIN, UH, THE FAIR MARKET CLASS AND HOW THAT WAS, UM, HOW THAT WAS DETERMINED.

THANK YOU, KIMBERLY ALEX, GAIL FROM THE OFFICE OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES, INTERIM OFFICER, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON FOR THIS, AND, AND ALL OUR OTHER ACQUISITIONS.

WE DO HIRE A THIRD PARTY APPRAISER TO HELP US DETERMINE A FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THAT IS THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH WITH THIS.

UM, THE APPRAISER OF COURSE, LOOKS AT, UH, COMPARABLES IN THE MARKET TO COME UP WITH WHAT THEY DETERMINED, UH, APPRAISED VALUE FOR THE PROPERTY FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THEY, THEY DID LOCATE SEVEN COMPARABLES.

THEY DID, UM, A G THE APPRAISER DID MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR MULTIPLE THINGS, INCLUDING LOCATION, UM, ZONING, UM, ENCUMBRANCES SIZE AND TIME ON THE MARKET, UH, THROUGH THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, THE RANGE OF THOSE COMPARABLES WAS ANYWHERE FROM $108 TO $174 PER SQUARE FOOT.

UH, THEY BASICALLY SAID THE AVERAGE OF THAT IS, UH, A, ROUGHLY $125, UH, PER SQUARE FOOT TIMES, THE, THE ROUGHLY 900, 9,322 SQUARE FEET IS HOW THEY CAME TO THE VALUE CONCLUSION OF THE 1.16, $5 MILLION.

PLUS THE CLOSING COSTS, WHICH WAS THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, UH, AS PART OF THIS ACTION, UM, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE THAT THE APPRAISER DID FIND IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY IT BEING, UH, ASSEMBLED TO ONE OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES, UM, THAT THAT WAS ESSENTIALLY WHAT, WHAT WOULD BRING THE, THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE TO THAT PROPERTY, ADJOINING IT TO ANOTHER PROPERTY.

AND SO, SO YES, WE ARE ONLY GOING TO BE USING IT.

UM, BUT THEN JULIE, FOR PARKLAND WITH THIS PARKLAND ACQUISITION, WE, WE ARE, UM, IT WAS APPRAISED BASED ON THAT HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY.

I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THAT'S STILL JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY.

I KNOW DIRECTOR MCFEELEY REFERENCED IT, BEING ABLE TO BE, YOU KNOW, AN ADA ENTRANCE POINT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TRAILHEAD, BUT FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, THERE'S NO FRONTAGE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO IT'S NOT EASILY ACCESSIBLE EITHER BY PEDESTRIANS OR CARS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE THINKS THIS IS ACCESSIBLE.

YOU'RE SAYING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I CERTAINLY RESPECT THAT AT THAT OPINION, THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER THE PURCHASE, THE PROPERTY IS PURCHASED TO BE ABLE TO VACATE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND BASICALLY BE ABLE TO DOUBLE THAT, BUT WE WOULD FIRST HAVE TO MAKE THAT PURCHASE, AND I'M NOT A VACATION OF RIGHT AWAY EXPERT.

I JUST KNOW THAT THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THAT SPACE, TO MAKE IT MORE DESIRABLE AND MORE AND PROVIDE FOR OUR ACCESSIBILITY.

HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF RECONCILING THAT VANDALISM.

WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S RESTRICTIONS THERE AND WHERE THEY CAN BE EXPENDED.

I DO, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THIS EXPENDITURE, YOU WILL KNOW THAT EVERGREEN CEMETERY WAS RECENTLY VANDALIZED AND YOU ALL

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AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO IS LIGHTING AND A NEW FENCE FOR EVERGREEN CEMETERY.

SO I JUST HAVE A TOUGH TIME RECONCILING THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A TINY SLIVER OF BARELY ACCESSIBLE PROPERTY.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO DO THE WORK IN EVERGREEN.

UM, THAT JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT RUBS ME WRONG.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO EXPAND DOLLARS IN WHICH CASE I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO ASK THAT IF ANYBODY'S OPPOSED TO US POSTPONING THIS ITEM, JUST TO ALLOW MORE TIME TO DETERMINE IF THIS IS IN FACT, THE BEST INVESTMENT WE CAN MAKE IN THIS AREA, OR IF, IF THIS IS A GOOD PURCHASE FOR US TO MAKE IT ALL, FRANKLY, I HAVE MY DOUBTS.

I'D LIKE VERY MUCH TO HAVE MORE TIME TO, TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND CONSIDER MORE, UM, UH, MORE COMPONENTS OF THE, OF THE PROPOSAL.

IF I MIGHT ADD TO THE CONVERSATION FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CONSIDERATION, AND OBVIOUSLY YOUR CON FOR YOU ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES, PART OF THE CRITERIA IS THAT THEY, THEY ARE TO BE SPENT ON NEW LAND ACQUISITION OR THEY'RE TO BE SPENT ON NEW, NEW AMENITIES WITHIN A PARK SYSTEM IN ORDER TO, UM, PROVIDE FOR, UH, THE NEW POPULATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO IS GOING TO OCCUR IN THAT GIVEN PLANNING AREA.

SO BEING ABLE TO TAKE THIS SPENDING FROM, FROM THIS, THIS PLANNING AREA AND BEING ABLE TO USE IT AT EVERGREEN, THAT WOULD HIRE THAT WOULD NOT LIKELY BE A USE THAT THESE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES WOULD BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR.

HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT AVAILABLE FUNDING FOREVER WHILE THERE HADN'T BEEN ANY AVAILABLE FUNDING THAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED.

THERE IS $2.5 MILLION THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH CEMETERIES AND BOND FUNDING, AND ONLY APPROXIMATELY A MILLION 0.2, MAYBE A MILLION 0.3 IS BEING SPENT RIGHT NOW ON ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN CEMETERIES.

AND THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY A MILLION DOLLARS FOR INVESTMENT WITHIN ANY OF THE CEMETERIES, WHICH COULD INCLUDE SECURITY.

IT COULD INCLUDE LIGHTING THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE FINAL, UM, THE FINAL ESTIMATES ON WHAT SECURITY WOULD LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THE LIGHTING WOULD LOOK LIKE.

HOWEVER, WE ALSO HAVE OTHER FUNDS WITHIN THE CIP PROGRAM THAT WE COULD CONSIDER USING PERHAPS FOR A PARK THAT WE DO HAVE AN ENTIRE FUND FOR PARKING BOTS.

AND SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, UM, BE CREATIVE AND PUT THE PUZZLE TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THESE PARTICULAR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES WOULD LIKELY NOT BE APPROPRIATELY EVERGREEN, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE DON'T THINK EVERGREEN'S IMPORTANT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.

BLAKE, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT MORE LATER.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE QUESTIONS, SO I'LL, UM, I WILL END THERE, JIMMY.

I ALMOST NEVER DO THAT.

THE VIDEO BUTTON BACKS.

UH, I WAS HAVING SOME SIMILAR QUESTIONS AND SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THOSE THINGS UP.

UM, MS. MCNEELY, I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO OFFLINE TALK ABOUT AND MAYBE KIND OF REVISIT OR REINFORCE SOME OF US ABOUT HOW THOSE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES WORK.

UM, I, I KNOW WE ALL KNOW YOU COULDN'T LITERALLY MOVE THESE MONIES AND PUT THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, BUT, BUT THE FUNDING, THERE ARE OTHER FUNDING THAT IS MORE FUNGIBLE AND THERE ARE PIECES THAT FIT TOGETHER AS YOU ALSO ARTICULATED.

AND SO I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A USEFUL EXERCISE.

I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT POSTPONEMENT OF THIS ITEM SO THAT, UM, THAT IF OTHERS HAVE CONCERNS, BUT I, I SHARE BECAUSE MY DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN SINCERE AND SOME GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THROUGH SOME OF THOSE MORE CREATIVE OPTIONS THAT, THAT THE PART STAFF I'M SURE HAS LOOKED AT BEFORE.

FOR THE APPOINTMENT.

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN'T HEAR COUNCIL MEMBER TOVA OKAY.

THIS IS MY COUNCIL DISTRICT.

AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ACQUISITION.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE POST THEM AND WHAT, WHAT THE POSTPONEMENT WERE DO.

I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE AND OUR AUDITS AND OTHER THINGS.

I MEAN, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT AT THIS POINT TO SPEND PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES AS DIRECTOR MCNEELY HAS SAID WITHIN, WITHIN THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE CASHED.

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I THINK KATHY WAS ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE IMPACT OF A POSTPONEMENT.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

I JUST TODAY I COULDN'T SUPPORT THE ITEM.

UM, I'D LIKE VERY MUCH JUST TO HAVE MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS ACQUISITION AND IF THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE USE.

I MEAN, WE KEEP HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE USE OF FUNDS.

AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW, I WANT TO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE BEST POSSIBLE USE.

AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT I WAS CONSIDERING WAS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE SHOW CREEK LANDSLIDE, UM, THERE'S A PART OF THE TRAIL THAT'S NOT EVEN OPEN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR FUTURE REPAIR OF THE LANDSLIDE AREA.

I JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS THE BEST USE OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A VERY, VERY SMALL PARCEL.

AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE TALK TO KATHY SOME MORE, BECAUSE THIS IS HER COUNCIL DISTRICT TALK TO PART MORE.

I JUST, I DON'T SEE THIS AS BENEFICIAL, KATHY.

YOU'RE ON MUTE HOW'S NOW, CAN YOU HEAR NOW? YES.

THANKS COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER MADISON.

I WOULD BE GLAD I'M NOT IN A SUB FORUM ON THIS, AND I WOULD WELCOME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT IT BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY.

UM, AND I WOULD ASK OUR PARK STAFF TO MAYBE TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ACQUISITION.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SOME TIME.

YOU KNOW, THERE AREN'T A LOT OF AVAILABLE TRACKS IN THE AREA.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER CAME THROUGH, BUT I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AS DIRECTOR MCNEELY SAID, THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE FEES THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR VERY PARTICULAR PURPOSES.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THEY CAN'T BE, THEY CAN'T BE USED IN CEMETERIES, EVEN IF THERE WAS ONE IN THE, IN THE CATCHMENT AREA WHERE THOSE FEES HAVE BEEN GENERATED.

SO THE PROJECTS THAT GENERATED THESE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND THE INTENT OF THEM.

UM, AND OUR, AND I THINK OUR LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY IS TO SPEND THEM WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY BECAUSE THE INTENT IS TO, TO KIND OF CREATE PARK SPACES FOR PLACES FOR THE, FOR THE NEW RESIDENTS YOU'RE OFFERING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO ME, AS I LOOKED AT THE PLANS, THE SHOAL CREEK, UM, THE SHOAL CREEK AND TENT FOR THIS AREA OF IMPROVING ACCESSIBILITY ALONG THAT CHAIN, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY CRITICAL TRACT, NOT JUST FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO BECAUSE OF ITS CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD.

I AM.

UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON OFFICE HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR TWO ABOUT EVERGREEN AND THE IMPORTANCE OF SECURITY CAMERAS EVEN BEFORE YOU PROVIDED US WITH THE CORRESPONDENCE, UM, DIRECTOR MCNEELY.

AND SO I THINK I REGARD THAT AS A HIGH PRIORITY TO, I DON'T THINK THESE ARE IN COMPETITION BECAUSE THE FUNDS CAN'T BE USED, THEY CAN'T BE USED OUTSIDE OF THIS CATCHMENT AREA THAT CAN'T BE USED IN THE CEMETERY.

SO THESE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FACED WITH A CHOICE ON THURSDAY BETWEEN ACQUIRING THIS AND, AND, UM, PROVIDING EVERGREEN WITH THE, WITH THE MONEY.

IT MEANS.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD SAY TOO, I WOULD ALSO LOOK AT, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING ELSEWHERE FOR THOSE DOLLARS, BUT WE ALSO DO PROBABLY HAVE SOME MONEY WITHIN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONEY THAT I KNOW WE HAVE REVIEWS IN OUR HISTORIC CEMETERIES, INCLUDING OAKWOODS AND PERHAPS THIS IS A FIT THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AT EVERGREEN.

SO AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THOSE TWO THINGS IN COMPETITION.

I UNDERSTAND IT, IT IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE TRACK, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN AND THE REAL ESTATE VALUES ARE, ARE HIGH THERE.

SO I SURE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS MOVE FORWARD AND, AND CONSIDERATION OF, UM, THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW.

AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A LONG TIME DIRECTOR MCNEELY.

CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE OF IT? HOW LONG THIS HAS BEEN OUR STAFF I'VE WORKED TO, UM, PURSUE THE OPPORTUNITY.

CAN I ACTUALLY ASK THEM ALEX? CAUSE I THINK HE WOULD, UM, WE HAVE BEEN PARTNERING WITH HIM IN REAL ESTATE.

CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN, JUST HAPPENED TO BE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.

MARIANNE.

SO DO YOU MIND IF I RESPOND TO CANCEL MEMBER TOPO REAL QUICK BEFORE ALEX, ALEX, UM, UH, EXPLAINS THE RATIONALE BEHIND THE PURCHASE? OH, GO AHEAD.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

I'M FULLY AWARE THAT THIS ISN'T IN COMPETITION WITH, UM, EVERGREEN, I'M FULLY AWARE OF THE LIMITATIONS OF THE FUND.

I'M FULLY AWARE THAT THIS IS NOT, UH, THESE AREN'T FUNDS THAT COULD GO TOWARDS THAT.

I, I WASN'T, I WASN'T IMPLYING THAT IF THAT'S HOW YOU INTERPRETED THAT.

I JUST BROUGHT IT UP AS AN EXAMPLE OF, OF A SOURCE OF FRUSTRATION WHEN WE CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THE MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS, I WASN'T COMPARING THE TWO ITEMS AND THAT'S IT.

I COULD PROVIDE A LAUNDRY LIST OF PARTS NEEDS, UM, THAT ARE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROXIMITY THAT ARE PRETTY

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HOW'D THAT GO TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION? YES.

UH, IT COMES TO MEMBER, WE'VE BEEN PURSUING THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR BASED ON, YOU KNOW, QUICK TEXTS WITH MY STAFF.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS, WE HAVE TO USE IT WITHIN A HALF MILE OF WHERE THOSE PARKLAND PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES ARE ARE SET FROM, WHICH IS WHERE, UM, THIS PROPERTY HAS COME FROM.

I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT POSTPONING OUR NEGOTIATIONS YET.

I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO STAFF TO SEE IF I CAN GET THAT ANSWER, TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A FEELING OF, OF WHAT POSTPONING THIS WOULD BE FOR, FOR MAYBE THE, I THINK 29TH IS OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, BUT I MIGHT HAVE A BETTER ANSWER, UH, IF I DON'T GET IT HERE IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES ON THURSDAY FOR COUNCIL AS WELL.

THANK YOU, LESLIE.

AND THEN PO AND THEN, WELL, I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, HELPFUL TO, TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THE SHELL CREEK CONSERVANCY ABOUT THE ACCESS, UM, UH, WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE SHOAL CREEK TRAIL, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY HARD FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS NOW, MAYBE FOUR ON COMPLETING THAT TRAIL.

THE SLIDE THAT, UM, NATASHA THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS NORTH OF THIS.

AND THERE IS A LEE ROUTE, A TRAIL AROUND WHERE THAT SLIDE AREAS, PEOPLE ARE NOW ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CREEK, WHERE AS, BEFORE THEY WERE ON THE WEST.

SO THAT'S A SAFE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT TRANS THAT'S TRANSIT AREA IS SAFE, WHERE PEOPLE ON BIKES AND WALKING AND THIS PART IS DOWN FURTHER SOUTH.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS PLAN CAN'T BE TO GO UP ANYWAY THAN IT IS A TINY LITTLE SLIVER OF LAND IT'S RIGHT.

UM, WHERE SHE'LL CREATE, DOES FLOOD AND, UH, TAKING IT INTO OUR, UM, PORTFOLIO WOULD PROVIDE SOME PROTECTIONS IN THAT AREA AND ALSO ACTUALLY CREATE A TRAIL AND MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE THERE.

IT ISN'T AT THIS POINT, UM, THE CHAUFFEURED CONSERVANCIES DURING SOME SPECIFIC AND EXCELLENT WORK IN THIS, IN THIS ARENA.

AND I'D LIKE TO MAYBE, UM, AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM NUMBER 21, BUT MAYBE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR US ALSO TO HEAR FROM THE CONSERVANCY FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THE VISION THAT THEY'RE BRINGING, BECAUSE IT'S PARTNERSHIP ALSO WITH PARKS AND REC AS A WAY TO KIND OF EXPAND OR WE'RE REACHING FOR SCOPE.

AND HE ALWAYS NEXT, OH YEAH.

ALEX, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND YOU? I, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, THAT MONEY HAS TO BE USED WITHIN A HALF A MILE OF, UH, THAT DEDICATION HAS TO BE USED WITHIN A HALF A MILE FOR THE PROJECT.

IF I COULD, IF I COULD HELP ALEX OUT A LITTLE BIT, THAT THERE ARE SOME PARAMETERS, RIGHT? AND SO I HAVE SOME, WE HAVE SOME PARAMETERS FOR THE USE OF THAT, AND WE START A HALF MILE, WE'LL GO AS FAR AS APPROXIMATELY TWO MILES.

THESE ARE, THESE ARE IN THE, UM, PLD STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES.

AND SO WE LIKE TO START WITHIN A HALF MILE, RIGHT.

BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WALKABILITY FROM THE PROJECT, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT, BUT WE CAN GO AS FAR AS TWO MILES.

AND SO, UM, ALEX WAS, WAS QUOTING THE VERY END OF THE PARAMETER.

WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S KIND OF SURPRISING WAS THAT, UH, WHERE, WHAT HAPPENS TO MONEY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT DEVELOPMENT AS IT'S, UH, DO YOU HAVE A SURPLUS OF PARKLAND AND THE HEAD AREA DID THAT MONEY JUST STAYS THERE UNTIL WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT WHEN YOU DON'T NEED ANYMORE PARKLAND.

SO THAT WAS PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES COULD BE USED TO IMPROVE AN EXISTING PARK OR PROVIDE A BRAND NEW AMENITY IN AN EXISTING.

AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THE CRITERIA, EITHER PURCHASING LAND OR PROVIDING A BRAND NEW, A BRAND NEW AMENITY THAT CAN BE USED BY THE, UM, BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOW MOVING INTO THAT SPACE.

WELL, I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT I THINK THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FUNDS, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT AT THE BEGINNING, BUT, UH, NOW THAT Y'ALL MENTIONED THAT I, I REALLY AM, UH, WANTING TO FIND OUT AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS IS VERY, UH, THIS IS NEW TO ME.

AND WHAT YOU CAN SPEND ON THEM IS DETERMINED BY, I BELIEVE IT'S STATE LAW, WHICH IS WHAT ALLOWS US TO, UM, IMPOSE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND WELL, I'M REMEMBERING TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK.

SO, UM, OTHER FURRY COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR, THANK YOU.

UM, MS. MCNEELY, UM, IT'S MY RECOLLECTION THAT THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES

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UM, AND SO THE RULES ARE REALLY, UM, IT'S, IT'S THE AMOUNT THAT YOU CAN, UM, IMPOSE AND THE, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN YOU CAN IMPOSE THEM THAT WE GET TO CONTROL, NOT SORT OF WHAT THEY CAN BE SPENT ON, IS THAT, AM I REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY WITHOUT GOING INTO LOTS OF CONVERSATION, UM, OVERVIEW, THE UMBRELLA OF THAT, AND IT'S ALSO BASED ON SOME CASE LAB, RIGHT? SO, SO THERE'S SOME CASE LAW THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW LEASES HAVE BEEN, UM, OR HOW ORDINANCES HAVE BEEN CREATED IN THE PAST AND HOW THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, DISALLOWED BY THE COURTS.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, IT'S BOTH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT ARE SET BY THE STATE, AND THEN IT'S ALSO BASED UPON SOME CASE LAW.

SO WITHOUT ALL OF THE SPECIFICS AND PARTICULARS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE REASON, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PARTICULAR ORDINANCE DOES VARY DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S PARKLAND, DEFICIENT OR, UM, A PARKLAND RICH AREA.

UM, AND IF IT'S A PARKLAND DEFICIENT AREA IN, YOU KNOW, CONSISTENT WITH OUR GOALS TO INCREASE ACCESS TO PARKS, UM, IN, IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BUT NOT ALL LAND IS REQUIRED, UM, WHEN APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND SO THERE ARE SOME NUANCE THERE THAT'S INVOLVED AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN A VERY, UM, IT HAS BEEN A VERY IMPORTANT SOURCE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FUND IMPROVEMENTS AND PURCHASES AROUND THE CITY.

AND I THINK IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PROGRAM.

I'M FINE WITH US HAVING, UM, A REFRESHER FOR FOLKS, BUT I THINK IT'S, UM, REALLY BEEN A VERY BENEFICIAL PROGRAM FOR ALLOWING US TO HAVE ACCESS TO FUNDS, TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO PARKS, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR TOP 10 STRATEGIC GOALS.

EDDIE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT DAY.

I LIKE TO .

UM, THANKS MIRROR, COUNCILMEMBER HARPER MEDICINE.

THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF, OUTSIDE OF THE FORUM.

UM, I DID WANT TO BE SURE IT COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN, I'M NOT SURE I COMPLETELY FOLLOWED WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING IN TERMS OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL PRIOR TO MAKING THE DECISION.

I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WOULD SUPPORT THE POSTPONEMENT, BUT I WASN'T EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING WERE THE POINTS THAT YOU WERE STILL CONTEMPLATING, SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW WHY MY WEBEX IS SO SLOW.

IT TAKES A MINUTE TO UNMUTE, UM, UH, DIRECTOR MCNEELY TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT NEEDS IN THE PARK SYSTEMS AND THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE CREATIVE WAYS TO EXPLORE USING THESE FUNDS IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING POINT AND WANTED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT IT.

OR ARE CONTEMPLATED FOR THE NEXT LITTLE PIECE.

THANKS FOR THAT.

I GUESS I WOULD ASK HER TO CLARIFY.

I THOUGHT WHEN SHE WAS SAYING THERE WERE CREATIVE WAYS TO EXPLORE USING FUNDS.

I THOUGHT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERGREEN, BUT MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD.

DR.

MCNEELY, WOULD YOU MIND CLARIFYING? THAT WAS THE INTENT IN THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION WAS BAD.

WE COULD HAVE HAD OTHER WAYS CREATIVE WAYS TO EXPLORE FUNDING FOR EVERGREEN, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DISAGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PLANNING IN THERE.

THERE'S ALSO OTHER CREATIVE WAYS TO EXPLORE THE WAY THAT WE FOUND, UM, PARKS AND RECREATION AMENITIES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

AND CERTAINLY WE COULD HAVE BOTH CONVERSATIONS AND, AND I WOULD JUST ADD IF YOU DON'T MIND COUNCILOR PATILLO, UM, IT, IT'S NOT, FOR ME, IT'S NOT AS MUCH ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PARCEL BEYOND THE WAY COUNCIL OF UPPER MADISON HAS SO CLEARLY ARTICULATED HER CONCERNS THAT I SHARE, BUT ALSO JUST THE, THE PROCESS BY WHICH STAFF IS PRIORITIZING THE EXTENDING OF THESE FUNDS AND JUST GETTING A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THOSE OPTIONS MIGHT BE AND HOW THOSE OPTIONS ARE BEING PRIORITIZED.

IS THERE AN AMENITY IN, IN THIS AREA THAT MIGHT BE MORE VALUABLE THAN THIS ONE LITTLE PARCEL HERE, OR MAYBE NOT, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN COMMUNICATED THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT ANALYSIS LOOKS LIKE.

SO IF I COULD SUGGEST WHEN ONE MEMO THAT I THINK IS REALLY VERY INTERESTING, THAT CAME OUT OF A PRETTY BUSY TIME FOR ALL OF US, IS THE MEMO ABOUT THE PARKS AND RECREATION.

AND MAYBE ALL OF YOU HAVE READ IT, UM, SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, BUT IT, IT JUST REALLY HIT MY ATTENTION IN THIS LAST WEEK.

UM, BUT ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020, WE GOT A MEMO, THE HISTORY OF PARKS AND RECREATION, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND PARKLAND ACQUISITIONS.

AND IT'S A SUPER LONG MEMO AND IT HAS, UM, DIFFERENT HEATMAPS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS.

AND IT WAS HELPFUL TO ME BECAUSE IT, IT SHOWED WHAT OTHER PRODUCT DECKS ARE, ARE CURRENTLY BEING, UM, ARE, HAVE EITHER JUST BEEN BOND FUNDED AND COMPLETED OR ARE UNDERWAY

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AND SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK OUR STAFF IF THEY WOULD MAKE THIS AVAILABLE AS PART OF THE BACKUP INFORMATION FOR THIS ITEM.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE PRETTY USEFUL.

UM, AND TO, IF, IF WE COULD GET A LIST OF THE PROJECTS I'M AWARE OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS, UM, THIS PARTICULAR SET OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, I THINK THAT MIGHT ALSO BE USEFUL IN THE BACKUP INFORMATION, BUT DIRECTOR MCNEELY, I GUESS, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT SAME QUESTION, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THERE ARE OTHER CREATIVE WAYS THAT OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES COULD BE USED UNDER OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE? I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY COULD MAKE CHANGES TO OUR ORDINANCE, BUT WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO, I THINK I'D WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN LEGAL SESSION FOR THE REASONS THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR HAS SAID, I MEAN, WE ARE, WE ARE OPERATING UNDER A STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS US TO COLLECT THESE MEETINGS AND WE HAVE A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME UNDER OUR CITY RULE REGULATIONS.

WE'RE USING THEM AND, OR JUST OTHER KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS WE'D WANT TO BE AWARE OF.

SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION AS I'VE CLEARLY CONFUSED EVERYONE, AND I APOLOGIZE MY, MY COMMENTS ABOUT FINDING CREATIVE WAYS TO PROVIDE FUNDING MORE SPACE IN THIS CONVERSATION WERE SPECIFIC TO EVERGREEN CEMETERY.

NO, YOU CANNOT USE, YOU HAVE TO USE PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES WITH UNDER SPECIFIC CRITERIA, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO OUTLINE IN HAVE SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS WITH COUNCIL OFFICES FOR REFRESHERS.

AND I HAVE ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS SEPARATE AND APART FROM EVERGREEN AND OR PARKLAND DEDICATION FEES WITH OTHER COUNCIL OFFICES, INCLUDING CONCEPT NUMBER FLANAGAN'S OFFICE RELATED TO CREATIVE WAYS OF FUNDING ARCS.

BUT THERE'S THREE, THERE'S THREE SEPARATE, VERY THREE SEPARATE ISSUES IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT I OBVIOUSLY DO NOT COMMUNICATE WELL.

DO YOU WANT TO TALK, NATASHA HAD HER HAND RAISED BEFORE I DID.

UM, I WOULD SAY GIVEN THE, THE NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY OPPOSED TO POSTPONING THE ITEM UNTIL WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER POOL SAID, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET A BETTER IDEA FROM THE SHOW CREEK CONSERVANCY.

EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE THINKING IS HERE PART, BUT THEIR RATIONALE IS HERE.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT PARKLAND DEDICATION.

I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH IS IN THIS FUND.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY PROJECTS ARE WITHIN THAT TWO MILE RADIUS OF ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURE FOR THIS.

I JUST HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, FRANKLY.

I WAS LIKE VERY MUCH FOR US TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE WE COULD DISCUSS THE REAL ESTATE COMPONENT.

UM, SO I, I JUST NEED MORE TIME AND, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND THURSDAY IS NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH.

UM, SO I, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO JUST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE MORE INFORMED AND, UM, FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE REP TO GO.

FUNDING TO THE 29TH COUNCIL WANTING TO MAKE A MOTION.

UH, YES, MAYOR, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I AGREE WITH NATASHA THERE.

UH, I, I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT AND, UH, UH, THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANT ON ME.

UH, THE PARK DEDICATION FUND HAS DONE A LOT OF GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT.

IT'S JUST THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I GET TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW IT GETS, WHO DECIDES HOW IT GETS DISTRIBUTED OUT.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE AN EAST OF 35 OR GETTING OUR FAIR SHARE OF THAT MONEY, SOME OF THAT MONEY.

CAUSE I GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS GONE INTO MY, MY DISTRICT HERE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BASICALLY FIND OUT HOW MUCH THERE IS IN THERE AND, AND WHAT, WHAT KIND OF PROJECTS ARE LYING FOR MY DISTRICT AND THIS ONE AND TWO AND FOUR AND FIT ALL THE DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANT TO KNOW.

AND THAT'S, I'M GLAD THAT ATTACHMENT BROUGHT THAT UP SO THAT WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, A MEETING AND HAVE A DISCUSSION.

AND SO WE CAN BE ON TOP OF EVERYTHING THAT THIS, UH, DEDICATED FINE THAT'S OKAY.

WELL, JUST A QUICK, QUICK QUESTION SO THAT I CAN THINK ABOUT RESPONDING TO TELL SOME HARPER MADISON'S QUESTION.

SO, UM, I, UM, I THINK SOMEONE THAT SAID THIS EARLY ON, I'M NOT SURE IF I CAUGHT IT, BUT WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT OF POSTPONING? I, UH, I REACHED OUT TO MY STAFF, UH, FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE, IF WE WERE TO POSTPONE IT TO THE 29TH AGENDA, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF AN IMPACT.

I THINK THAT THE FOLLOWING MORNING TO NOVEMBER 12TH MIGHT, WE MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, SO WE HAVE A PROBLEM POST

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UM, PARKLAND, DEDICATION FEES.

SO WE WOULDN'T LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.

I WAS COMING, PEOPLE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WERE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, POSTPONING IT.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK IT'D BE VERY HELPFUL AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TOO, ABOUT THE USE OF THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND.

AND I HEAR THE CONCERNS THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE RAISING IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO USE IT FOR, UM, OTHER AREAS TO OIL, ACTUALLY, TO UNDERSTAND THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN.

AND I THINK THAT'S USEFUL TO KNOW.

SO, UH, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PASS UP AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE A, A PIECE OF PROPERTY IF THE MONEY CAN'T BE USED FOR THE AREAS OF TOWN WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ANYONE.

BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT, UM, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM WITH POSTPONING.

SO SUCH REALLY THE BOTTOM LINE, I THINK AT THIS POINT, SIR, I CAN JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A READYMADE ALREADY, A VIDEO AND A PRESENTATION, JUST COINCIDENTALLY, NOT IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS CONVERSATION, THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

I THINK IT'LL BE A REALLY GREAT EDUCATIONAL TOOL AND WE CAN LAUNCH THAT TOMORROW IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO TALK WITH US ABOUT IT, BUT I'M SURE WE'LL GIVE YOU AND WE'LL CONTACT YOUR OFFICES AND SET UP THOSE MEETINGS FOR OUR FUTURE DATE PRIOR TO THE AUGUST.

I'M SORRY, THE OCTOBER 29TH MEETING.

SO THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

I'M MAYOR.

YES, KATHY.

SO I GUESS I WOULD ASK STAFF IF IT'S APPROPRIATE.

I THINK THAT MIGHT TO BE HELPFUL TO BE LINKED UP TO THE BATH, THE BACKUP, I'M GLAD THAT POSTPONING UNTIL THE 29TH, THAT DOESN'T HURT THE SALE IN JEOPARDY.

AND I JUST, I WANT TO JUST EMPHASIZE AGAIN, THAT MEMO THAT I MENTIONED TALKS ABOUT THE PROJECTS UNDERWAY.

AND SO I THINK IT, IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SEEN ALONGSIDE THE PARKLAND PATIENT INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE I, WHAT I'M SENSING THE MEMO CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD IS THAT WHEN THERE'S PARKLAND DEDICATION FEE, I MEAN, IN FACT FOR THEM SPECIFICALLY SAYS THIS, WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE MONEY, YOU USE THAT IN THE AREAS THAT MAY NOT HAVE PARKLAND DEDICATION, YOU'RE USING BOND FUNDS.

AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE THE DIFFERENT FUNDING IN DIFFERENT PLACES, DEPENDING ON, UM, WHICH AREAS MAY HAVE GENERATED KIND OF FUNDING AND USING BOND FUNDING IN THOSE PLACES THAT MAY NOT HAVE A POOL OF FUNDING.

SO I THINK LIKE PAGE FOUR OF THAT MENNO AND SOME OTHERS TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS GOING ON AROUND THE CITY THAT ARE BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE BOND FUNDS AND OTHER THINGS, OTHER SOURCES, OTHER THAN PARKLAND.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? LESLIE, IN CASE I OVERSOLD OFFICIAL HEARD OF CONSERVANCY'S INTEREST IN THIS, THIS LITTLE AREA, UM, THEY'LL LET THEM GIVE US THEIR OPINION.

IT'S NOT CHOCOLATE RIGHT NOW, BUT IT IS PART OF THE SHOAL CREEK AREA AND NATURALLY PARCEL OF LAND, BUT CONCERNS, YOU COULD HAVE SOME INTEREST IN WHETHER THEY'RE, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ON THEIR TOP PRIORITY OR NOT JUST ONE, MAKE SURE I WASN'T OVER SELLING.

ANYTHING ELSE? YES.

JUST TO SORT OF GIVE A HEADS UP TO PART I BELIEVE WOULD BE WHO ANSWERED? WELL, MAYBE NOT.

WELL, THESE ARE MY OTHER QUESTIONS AND I GUESS I'M JUST PUTTING THEM OUT THERE SO THAT FOLKS IN THE INTERIM CAN BE QUEUING UP TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM.

I THINK, DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THAT ONE OF THE STIPULATIONS WITH ACCESS IN THIS PARTICULAR FUND HAS TO DO WITH AN AMENITY THAT BENEFITS NEW RESIDENTS? DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY OR DID I MISINTERPRET THAT RIGHT? THE REASON WHY WE HAVE PAT, ONE OF THE IDEAS OF PARKLAND DEDICATION, ONE OF THE PURPOSES IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A PEOPLE WHO ARE MOVING INTO A SPACE, YOU WANT TO BE, SO THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND I, I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER RENTERIA SAID WHAT HE DID CAUSE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, DISTRICTS ONE IN THREE HAVE CAPITAL LETTERS, FAR MORE NEW RESIDENTS IN CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING, THEN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

IN FACT, I'M TRYING TO IMAGINE WHEN'S THE LAST TIME I SAW ANY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION GOING ON AROUND THERE AND I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S EVEN HAPPENING.

UM, AND SO THAT'S THE, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERED.

AND I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHO WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PARTY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT I, I'M NOT, I'M CERTAINLY NOT IMPLYING ANYTHING.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

I'M JUST SAYING, I'D LIKE TO KNOW.

UM, SO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS COULD BE ANSWERED.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU A LIST OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAPPENED, THEIR ADDRESSES AND, AND THAT INFORMATION.

SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE

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THAT.

I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT.

SO I'LL ASK THAT AS PART OF THE BACKUP ALSO.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS BEFORE WE GO TO THE NEXT POLL ITEM, COLLEGE IS GOING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, I'M GONNA NEED TO LEAVE AT THREE O'CLOCK TO GO DO A COVEN MEETING WITH, UH, THE COUNTY OF DR.

ESKOM, THEN OUR RETURN, IF YOU'RE STILL GOING ON.

ALRIGHT.

IT'S TWO 20 NOW.

UH, NEXT DAY THEN YES.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE UP 80 BEFORE YOU HAVE TO LEAVE.

SO, UM, LET'S JUST BE SURE AND GET TO THAT ONE.

I HAD THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO TAKE IT UP WITH THE OTHERS, BUT WE DIDN'T.

SO WE COULD GET TO THAT ONE BEFORE YOU HAVE TO LEAVE.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE 22 AND THEN WE'LL TAKE UP NUMBER 80, JIMMY.

[22. Approve the adoption of the Walter E. Long Metropolitan Park Vision Plan as developed in conjunction with Halff Associates and the Austin Parks and Recreation Department. Strategic Outcome(s): Health and Environment; Culture and Lifelong Learning. District(s): District 1]

YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT 22 THERE BECAUSE LITERALLY IT TAKES LIKE 30 SECONDS FOR THAT BUTTON TO CHANGE.

UH, THIS IS QUICK, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'M FEELING MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE MASTER PLAN OF THE VISION PLAN FOR A WALTER LONG, UH, BUT FOR AREA ONE AND THAT'S THE AREA SURROUNDING THE EXPO CENTER.

UM, CAUSE I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WERE USED IN, IN DEVELOPING THAT PART OF THE PLAN.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, IF IT'S INCLUDED ANYWHERE IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OR REQUIREMENT THAT AIR PROJECTS OR GRANTS OR ANYTHING INCURRING IN AREA.

ONE NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW OR CONSULTATION, OR MAYBE EVEN A COUNCIL COMMITTEE TO BE, YOU KNOW, HOUSING, THE PLANNING COMMITTEE.

IT COULD BE ANYTHING REALLY.

UM, CAUSE I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE STUFF DOESN'T START MOVING FORWARD IN THAT AREA WHILE THERE'S STILL SO MANY QUESTIONS ON OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH TRAVIS COUNTY AND THE RODEO.

AND LOOK, THE FUTURE OF THAT SITE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE SO WE CAN KIM KIMBERLY CAN, YOU KNOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN THERE? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC IN THE PLAN BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF A PROCESS THING, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO EXPEND DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT ARE GREATER THAN THE CITY MANAGERS, IF THE AUTHORITY AND THIS PROJECT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IMPROVEMENT WE DO IS GOING TO BE GREATER THAN THE CITY MANAGER'S AUTHORITY.

IT COMES BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL AND GRANTS ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

SO IT'S KIND OF BAKED INTO THE PROCESS WITHOUT EXPLICITLY SAYING THAT.

UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE PLAN IS GOING TO INCLUDE BASED UPON FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, AN ENTIRE MENU OF OPTIONS, OF DIFFERENT SORTS OF WAYS IN WHICH WE COULD FUND DIFFERENT AREAS OF THIS PLAN.

THAT, AND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'S ADDED TO THIS, UH, THIS PLAN FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

AND THERE WILL BE A GENERAL STATEMENT IN THERE THAT SAYS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO AMEND THIS PARTICULAR PLAN BASED UPON THE DIFFERENT PLANNING PRIORITIES THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE AREA.

SO, UM, IF YOU'D LIKE GIVE ME FURTHER DIRECTION WHERE WE'RE FINISHING UP THE CONSULTATION WITH OUR CONFLICT, OUR CONSULTANTS TODAY, AND WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE SOMETHING, WE CAN PUT SOMETHING IN THE PLAN, BUT THAT'S ALREADY BAKED INTO THE PROCESS.

WE COME BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

IT'S BAKED INTO THAT PROCESS ALREADY.

IT IS, UM, AN IDEA THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY BE CREATIVE ABOUT HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT TOURISM AND THE HOTEL INDUSTRY AND HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PROTECTING OUR BRAND AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL, UM, AND, UM, AND HOW THAT BRAND IS REALLY KEY TO OUR ABILITY TO TRACK ATTRACT TOURISTS AND TO SUPPORT OUR WHOLE INDUSTRY.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING SIMPLE, BUT I NEED TO GET WOULD BE USEFUL.

CAUSE SOMETIMES THE PROCESS IS WHAT MUCH LIKE THE ITEM WE WERE JUST DELIBERATING.

IT COMES TO COUNCIL WHEN IT'S NEARLY COMPLETELY BAKED AND IT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO UNPACK THINGS AT THE END WHEN WE WANT TO IMPACT THEM.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PACK THE PACKAGE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING.

MY METAPHOR IS NOT WORKING ANYMORE, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT OUR, I THINK WE MADE OUR POINT AND I THINK THAT I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE DOING, JIMMY.

I THINK WE NEED TO HELP RESOLVE THE QUESTION OF WHAT WE DO WITH THE EXPO CENTER AND HOW WE DO THAT.

UH, SO THERE WERE AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH TRAVIS COUNTY.

AND I KNOW WE FOUND OTHER RESOLUTIONS TO TRY TO, TO, TO MAKE THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT, THAT HELPS US DO THAT.

I THINK THAT THAT'S PART OF THIS LARGER PRODUCT, LARGER CONVERSATION.

ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE WE'LL ASSIGN THEM AND WE'LL MOVE FROM THAT.

AND YOU WANT

[80. Approve a resolution directing the City Manager to establish a Visitor Information Center Fund that provides seed funding to allow the Austin Economic Development Corporation (AEDC) to implement as an initial project Visitor Information Center acquisition, construction, improvement, enlarging, equipping, repairing, operations, and maintenance as provided for under Texas Tax Code Sections 351.001(8) and 351.101. Sponsors: Council Member Ann Kitchen, Council Member Leslie Pool, Council Member Kathie Tovo, and Council Member Alison Alter]

I JUST, I, I PULLED THIS MYSELF CAUSE I WANTED TO BRING IT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION AND I'LL ALSO PUT SOMETHING ON THE MESSAGE BOARD BECAUSE I WOULD APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO HEAR WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING, YOU KNOW, TODAY OR TOMORROW.

UM, SO I'LL PUT SOMETHING ON MESSAGE BOARD ALSO.

SO, UH, ITEM 80, UH, IT, IT RELATES TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD EARLIER ABOUT THE SAVES, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT PIECE OF IT.

UH, BASICALLY, UM, I VIEW THIS AS AN IDEA THAT IS, THAT'S REALLY AN IDEA THAT'S WORTH US TRYING.

UM, AND

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SO THE, THE ARROW, THE IDEA IS THAT IS A, UM, IS A FOCUSED, NARROW IDEA.

AND THE IDEA IS TO, IS TO CREATE A FUND THAT WILL HELP US SUSTAIN OUR ICONIC, UM, BUSINESSES.

MOST OF YOU WHOM HAVE MORE MUSIC VENUES.

SO I'LL USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE AND, UH, ABILITY TO, UM, SUSTAIN, UH, OUR ICONIC MUSIC VENUES GOING INTO THE FUTURE.

AND THE REASON FOR IS BECAUSE THEY CREATE OUR BRAND AND THEY ARE ESSENTIAL AND KEY TO OUR TOURISM AND HOTEL INDUSTRY.

SO MORE SPECIFICALLY WHAT THIS DOES AT THIS POINT IS IT'S A STEP IN THE PROCESS.

AND WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT, UM, WE ARE, UM, UH, CREATING THIS FUND.

UM, IT, UM, ASKED THE CITY MANAGER TO BRING US BACK A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER ONE TIME.

THIS IS NOT AN ONGOING FUND, BUT TO TRANSFER ONE TIME AND AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT CAN BE DIRECTED OVER TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, ENTITY AND USE TO CREATE A FUN, I'M JUST CALLING IT A VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER, FUN THAT CAN SUSTAIN ITSELF OVER TIME.

SO IT'S A ONETIME.

UM, IT'S A ONETIME USE OF HOT TAX FUNDING.

AND LET ME BE SPECIFIC.

I'M TALKING ABOUT HOT TAX FUNDING, NOT THE FUNDS WE CURRENTLY USE FOR THE 15% CULTURAL, NOT THE FUNDS WE CURRENTLY USE FOR THE 15% HISTORICAL AND NOT THE FUNDS THAT ARE PART OF THE LIVE MUSIC FUND.

THIS IS FUNDS THAT COME OUT OF THE PORTION OF HOT TEXTS THAT WE USE TO PROMOTE TOURISM AND, UM, THE HOTEL INDUSTRY.

UM, IT DOES NOT HAVE A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN IT BECAUSE WE DON'T YET KNOW WHAT THE APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS THAT WILL ALLOW US, UM, TO PROCEED WITH THIS IDEA WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION.

SO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS, THIS IS NOT INTENDED IN ANY WAY, AND I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO, UM, TO IDENTIFY A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT, UM, THAT DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM CONTINUING WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION.

SO THE TIMELINE IS, AND THE PROCESS IS THAT WE'RE ASKING THE CITY MANAGER TO COME BACK TO US WITH A BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEY WOULD BRING BACK TO US, UM, UM, A CONTRACT WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, UM, TO ACTUALLY TAKE THIS PROJECT AND RUN WITH IT.

UM, I HAVE A NOVEMBER DATE IN HERE.

I HAVE TO CONSULT BACK WITH OUR STAFF ON WHETHER THAT'S THE RIGHT DATE OR NOT.

UM, WOULD IT BE THE DATE AT WHICH THEY WOULD BE READY TO COME BACK WITH US? SO THE OTHER THING THAT'S IN HERE IS THERE ARE CRITERIA LISTED IN HERE.

AND THE REASON FOR THE CRITERIA IS TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT OUR INTENTION.

AND THAT INTENT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LOCATIONS THAT, UM, UM, HAVE A VALUE TO TOURISM AS A DESTINATION, UH, OR LOOKING AT LOCATIONS THAT HAVE A TRACK RECORD OF SUCCESS THAT HAVE AN INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING AND SECURING THE VENUE AS A RECOGNIZED ICONIC, UH, TOURIST DESTINATION.

UH, WE ARE LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS THAT AGREE THAT THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS KIND OF ARRANGEMENT.

UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT STRUCTURING THE SUCH THAT, THAT CORPUS AMOUNT.

YEAH, THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT COULD, COULD LEVERAGE OTHER DOLLARS AND THEY COULD REGENERATE ITSELF.

SO IT MIGHT BE USED TO HELP AN ENTITY.

IT MIGHT BE USED TO PURCHASE, PURCHASE A LOCATION WITH THE LEASE BACK ARRANGEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, AND USING THOSE RENT FUNDS TO FURTHER, IT THERE'S A RANGE OF WAYS IN WHICH IT COULD BE DONE.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE TOO PRESCRIPTIVE.

UM, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT HAS TO, HAS TO RELATE BACK TO OUR, UM, PURPOSE HERE.

UM, AND IT JUST RECOGNIZES, IT GIVES US

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A, AS I SAID BEFORE, THIS IS AN, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TALKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY.

AND THAT IS A MECHANISM FOR A MECHANISM FOR ENSURING THE SUSTAINABILITY OF ALL OF THOSE, THOSE GROUP OF ENTITIES OR GROUP OF MUSIC VENUES, PRIMARILY THAT, UM, THAT MAKE SENSE, THIS PLACE A DESTINATION.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE ARE CONSIDERING EVOLVING OUR CONVENTION CENTER, EVOLVING THE WAY IT LOOKS EVOLVING THE CITY AS BEING A DESTINATION FOR TOURISM.

WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT ALL PIECES THAT MAKE THIS, UH, THIS CITY A DESTINATION AND THE CONVENTION CENTER ITSELF HAS A BUILDING.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT IT IT'S AS WE HEARD FROM OUR CONSULTANTS AROUND THE CONVENTION CENTER, UM, THAT THE, THAT THE INDUSTRY IS EVOLVING TO RECOGNIZE IT.

AND THAT IT'S THE PLACE, THE DESTINATION.

SO WE HAVE PLAY, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.

WE DID INCLUDE AN ATTACK WITH SOME EXAMPLES AND THEY ARE NOT INTENDED.

THAT LIST IS NOT INTENDED TO BE EXCLUSIVE.

IT'S INTENDED JUST TO GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA OF THE, UM, THE PLACES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE RECOGNIZED ALREADY BY VISIT AUSTIN AS ICONIC AUSTIN MUSIC, MUSIC VENUES, OR ICONIC AUSTIN RESTAURANTS.

SO THERE ARE EXAMPLES.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE THINGS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BROKEN SPOKE, WHICH IS WHAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, VICTORY GRILL OR THE HISTORIC SCOOT IN.

UM, THREADGILL'S, ALTHOUGH WE MAY HAVE MISSED THE BOAT, UNFORTUNATELY ON THREADGILL'S MAYBE NOT AT THIS POINT MOHAWK ANYWAY, THERE'S A WHOLE RANGE OF THEM AND THEY ARE THE LIST HERE IS INTENDED AS AN AS EXAMPLES.

AND THEY'RE LISTED HERE INTENDED FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATIONS TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THOSE.

AND THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT FIT THIS CRITERIA ALSO.

UM, AND ALSO TO RECOGNIZE THAT OVER TIME AS WE BUILD A FUND, THAT CAN BE A SUSTAINING FUND THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL, UH, ENTITIES.

SO THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS THAT THIS USES HOT TEXT FUNDS.

WE'VE ALWAYS ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT, CAN WE USE HOT TEXTBOOKS? UM, I HAVE WORKED WITH OUR LEGAL STAFF, UM, AND YES, WE CAN USE HOT TEXTS FUNDS FOR VISITOR INFORMATION CENTERS.

THERE IS NOT A QUESTION UNDER THE LAW ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN DO THAT EXACTLY HOW THAT HAS TO BE DEFINED.

IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT EXACTLY DO THEY HAVE TO DO TO BE A VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER THAT IS NOT DEFINED IN THE LAW EITHER.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO THINK CREATIVELY ABOUT.

THINK ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THAT AND TOURISM AND THE HOTEL INDUSTRY, UM, AND THEN DESIGN WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS WOULD BE.

SO, UM, SO I, I THINK, I THINK THIS IS WHERE I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY THINK IT'S, WE REALLY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO THINK CREATIVELY, AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL DO THAT.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT FOR FOLKS TO SEE IF YOU ALL HAD, UM, QUESTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK FOR ME AT THIS POINT, THAT'D BE GREAT.

OR WE CAN, UM, WORK WITH FEEDBACK ON THE, ON THE MESSAGE FOR THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID ABOUT THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK TOO MUCH.

UM, BUT I'M HOPING THAT I'M CONVEYING TO, UH, CONVEYING WHAT I THINK IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO HELP PROTECT OUR BRAND.

NOPE.

I WAS THINKING YOU PULL THIS UP OUT EARLY TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING.

I'M HAPPY TO, TO, TO COMMENT ON IT AS BEST AS I CAN FIRST.

I REALLY WANT TO APPLAUD EVERYBODY'S EFFORT YOURS AND EVERYBODY'S TO TRY TO COME UP WITH IS EVERY WAY WE CAN TO, TO TRY AND HELP, UH, THE, THE MUSIC INDUSTRY TO HELP OUR ICONIC PLACES.

CAUSE I THINK THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT.

AND, UM, AND I'M, AND I'M EXCITED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, TO TAKE THAT 2%, UH, EARLIER AND DEDICATED TO, TO MUSIC, THE BOND PACKAGE THAT WE HAD, THE WORK THAT THE HALL COUNCIL HAS DONE ON THE SAFES RESOLUTION, UH, UH, THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND THIS COUNCIL MEETING THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT GOING FURTHER WITH THE TWO 80 AGREEMENTS AND, AND ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I THINK WE, WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY BE TRYING TO THINK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN THINK OF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

CAUSE I THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT.

AND CERTAINLY YOU, YOU HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE LEADERS, UH, ON THIS,

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UH, IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIND FUNDING FOR, UH, THE ARTS INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE CITY, UH, THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FOR US RIGHT NOW CONCERNS THE USE OF, OF HOT TAX, UH, WHICH IS A CONVERSATION THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR, FOR, FOR AWHILE.

UH, AND, AND I, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THOSE CONVERSATIONS JUST BECAUSE I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, WE CREATE, UM, UH, AS, AS PETER TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE, THAT WE CAN YEAH.

MEAT, UH, AND, AND, AND, UH, I WANT TO TRY IT NOT TO DO THAT FROM, FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU TALK ABOUT USING THE HIGH FUNDS AND CERTAINLY WE CAN USE THE HOT FUNDS AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

WE CAN USE THE HOT FUNDS FOR CONVENTION CENTER.

YOU MENTIONED CENTER EXPANSION, WE CAN USE THE HOT FUNDS AS YOU INDICATE FOR, UM, UH, VISITOR'S CENTER.

UH, WE CAN'T USE THE HOT FUNDS JUST FOR THINGS IN OUR CITY THAT GENERATE TOURISTS, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE ALLOWANCES USES, UM, TO, TO HELP THEM THINGS THAT GENERATE, UH, TOURISM OR GENERATE TOURISTS, UH, UNLESS, UH, THEY ALSO FALL WITHIN, UM, A HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMPONENT.

AND THEN IT NEEDS TO DO BOTH HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND OPERATE AS A TOURIST DRAW.

UH, BUT THEN IT'S ALSO LIMITED TO THAT 15%.

WE CAN USE IT FOR VENUES THAT ARE A TOURIST DRAW, UM, UH, ONLY WHEN THEY INVOLVE THE ARTS, BUT THEN IT'S LIMITED TO THE 15% AS DO BOTH THOSE THINGS.

IT HAS TO BE ARTS AND A TOURIST DRAW.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING THAT, WE'RE PULLING DOWN THE MAX 15%, UH, FOR THOSE.

AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE LISTED ARE THINGS THAT I THINK MIGHT VERY WELL BE A MEANINGFUL FOR, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION DOLLARS AND, AND, AND, AND MIGHT VERY WELL BE ABLE TO, TO, TO APPLY FOR AND GET IN LINE FOR, AND MAYBE BE FUNDED, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION DOLLARS, UH, THAT ARE OTHERWISE GENERATED.

BUT THE, THE ADDITIONAL ELEMENT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING FORTH THIS TIME IS VISITOR CENTER ISSUE.

SO BEING CREATIVE ON WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT VISITOR CENTERS, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN WE, CAN WE GET MONEY TO SOME OF THESE, UM, UH, PLACES WITH RESPECT TO THE VISITOR CENTER COMPONENT? AND I THINK THAT IS A QUESTION THAT I WANT TO HEAR LEGAL COME BACK TO US WITH AND TELL US WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT WE CAN FUND THAT PORTION OF THEIR OPERATION THAT'S THAT IS FOR, UM, UH, TOUR CENTER FUNCTIONS.

UH, YOU KNOW, IF A VENUE WANTS TO PUT IN A KIOSK THAT DEALS WITH VISITOR CENTER STUFF, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN, WE CAN HELP PAY FOR THE KIOSK OR THE, AND WE COULD PAY FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS THERE TO TWO, TWO, TWO, MAN.

NOT MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE COULDN'T PAY THAT PERSON IF THEY'RE ALSO WAITING ON TABLES OR WORKING BEHIND THE BAR OR THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UH, SO, SO, UH, GETTING THE STAFF TO, TO TELL US WHAT THE CONSTRAINTS OR PARAMETERS ARE WITH RESPECT TO TRYING TO USE VISITOR'S CENTER FUNDING, UH, IN ONE OF THESE LOCATIONS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF LEGAL WOULD COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT, BUT I DON'T, I THINK IT'S REAL IMPORTANT NOT TO, TO, TO, TO OVERS.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT I BELIEVE IS THAT THERE'S LIMITATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH HOW THAT COULD BE DONE OR WHAT THE EXTENT OF THAT WOULD BE AND HOW THAT IS NARROWLY FUNDED, BUT FOR BETTER, OR FOR WORSE, THAT'S, IT MAY GIVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE A CHANCE TO TALK TO AND THEY RESPOND FIRST AND THEN I'LL HEAR FROM OTHERS.

I WANT TO JUST SAY ONE THING I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT FOR FOLKS.

UH, AND I, AND I'LL, I'LL ASK FOR A, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT FOR FOLKS, THE THINGS THAT YOU GIVE AS EXAMPLES ARE NOT IN THE LAW.

SO WHAT YOU WERE GIVING AS EXAMPLES ABOUT WHAT WE CAN PAY, WHAT WE CAN USE THE DOLLAR STORE FOR A VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER MAY BE A VERY APPROPRIATE INTERPRETATION, BUT THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED BY LAW.

I COULDN'T, COULD I PLEASE FINISH, LET ME GET SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

THIS IS MINE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALLOW ME JUST TO FINISH MY THOUGHT ON WHAT YOU SAID, AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO LEAVE IT.

IMPRESSION AMONGST MY COLLEAGUES OR THE PUBLIC THAT WHAT YOU WERE SUGGESTED TO SUGGESTING WAS CRA WAS STATED IN THE LAW.

SO I THINK, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S THE CHALLENGE FOR US AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A JUDGMENT CALL HERE THAT WE ALL HAVE TO EXERCISE.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT, I DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE THE

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IT IS NOT IN THE STATUTE.

IT IS NOT IN AG OPINIONS AND IT IS NOT IN, UM, IN, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, COURT CASES.

NOW IT MAY BE THE MOST, IT MAY BE, UM, IT MAY BE A REASONABLE INTERPRETATION.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT, BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THAT IMPRESSION.

I ALSO SHARE YOUR CONCERN.

I AM NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT I DON'T WANT TO CREATE EXPECTATIONS THAT CAN'T BE MAD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THINK OF INTERPRETATIONS THAT THINK BROADLY.

SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO RESPOND TO THAT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE LAW STATES AND I WILL ASK FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THE TASHA YOU HAD YOUR HAND RAISED.

I DID.

UM, I WAS JUST GOING ASK, UH, WHILE WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, SOMETHING THAT COULD BE HELPFUL.

I THINK FOR ME, CERTAINLY I COULD REACH OUT INDEPENDENT OF THE GROUP, BUT I WONDER IF SOME OF MY OTHER, UH, SOME OTHER COLLEAGUES MIGHT BE INTERESTED AS WELL.

SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS TO NO ONE WHETHER OR NOT WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THE CONSULTANT THAT HELPED US WITH THE EDC PROJECT.

AND IF SO, CAN WE ASK THEM IF THIS IS THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT THEY FORESAW AS APPROPRIATE FOR THE FIRST VENTURE FOR THE EDC? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW THAT PART, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.

THE STAFF COULD CHECK ON THAT.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

WE'LL FOLLOW UP.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, 80.

FIRST FLANAGAN, JIMMY.

SO JUST, JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR THE PART OF THE LAW THAT DEFINES VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER, SECTION THREE 51 OH ONE PART B MEANS A BUILDING OR PORTION OF A BUILDING USE TO DISTRIBUTE OR DISSEMINATE INFORMATION TO TOURISTS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN INTERPRET WORDS TO MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THERE IS A DEFINITION IN THE LAW.

ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION, THE SIGN, MAYBE LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO THE NEXT POOL ITEM.

I MAYOR KATHY.

I THINK I'M HAVING THE SAME BUTTON ISSUE.

WE CAN'T SEE YOU, BUT WE CAN HEAR YOU.

UM, YEAH.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT, I THINK IT'S CONTINUES TO BE IMPORTANT TO EXPLORE ALL THE VARIOUS POSSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE FOR GETTING COACHELLA OCCUPANCY TAXES UNDER, UNDER THE STATE STATUTE.

AND WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS AND IT'S TAKEN A LOT OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE REALLY MORE FULLY UTILIZING OUR OPTIONS.

AND THIS IS CLEARLY RYAN AND I LOOK OVER TO THE CONVERSATION AND EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TOO, THAT WE LOOK AT NOT JUST HOW THE CITY HAS TYPICALLY ALLOCATED IT, BUT ALSO HOW SOME OF OUR PARTNER ENTITIES, INCLUDING VISIT AUSTIN HAVE TO REUSE TOTAL OCCUPANCY TAXES.

CAUSE THAT TOO, I THINK PROVIDES US WITH A LEGAL FRAMEWORK FOR, AND PRECEDENT FOR HOW WE, WHAT KINDS OF PROJECTS MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE.

AND I DO THINK IT'S BROADER THAN, THAN WE HAVE TYPICALLY DONE IN THE PAST.

FURTHER ON NUMBER 80 AND YOUR CLOSES OUT.

NUMBER 76, THAT'S THE CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR'S EVENTS.

I JUST WANTED TO CLOSE BY, UM, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO, YOU KNOW, TO THINK THROUGH, UM, THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.

I'M JUST, I BROUGHT THIS FORWARD BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE SOME, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR CHALLENGES.

UM, AND THIS CONSTANT COUNCIL HAS DONE A LOT OF VERY CREATIVE THINGS ACROSS THE BOARD AND TRYING TO RESOLVE OUR CHALLENGES.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EVOLVE, UM, AS THE CITY AND PERHAPS, SO SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES, AGAIN, THIS I RECOGNIZE, AND I, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE MAYOR IS SAYING.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE EXPECTATIONS THAT THIS IS GOING TO SOLVE EVERYTHING CAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY NOT A, BUT IT IS A PIECE I THINK THAT WE COULD CONSIDER.

SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN, UH, TO EVOLVE IN HOW WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, UM, OUR CITY AND, AND PROTECTING THE THINGS THAT WE THINK NEED TO BE PROTECTED.

THANK YOU, ANNE.

UH, COLLEAGUES ON ITEM

[76. Approve an ordinance setting the council meeting schedule for calendar year 2021 and setting the budget and tax rate hearings for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Strategic Outcome(s): Government that Works for All.]

I POSTED SOMETHING TO THE MESSAGE BOARD.

UH, EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF MAYORS MEETING AND THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE

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OF, OF CLERKS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME OF THAT ORGANIZATION IS.

UH, BUT THEY, THEY FALL ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER, OR THEY FALL IN ALTERNATE WEEKS.

UH, SO I'M PROPOSING, UH, AND THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS COOL WITH, UH, HAVING THAT FIRST MEETING THE END OF JANUARY ON A MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, AS OPPOSED TO A TUESDAY, THURSDAY WORK SESSION AND COUNCIL MEETING, YOU ALL WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THAT ENABLES BOTH OF US TO BE AT OUR RESPECTIVE NATIONAL MEETINGS.

UH, AND THAT'S POSTED ONTO THE MESSAGE ITEM NUMBER 50,

[50. Approve a resolution directing the City Manager to identify and implement improvements to the Austin Code Department, and to identify relevant budget and fee amendments to reimagine public safety utilizing the Austin Code Department. Sponsors: Council Member Jimmy Flannigan, Council Member Paige Ellis, Council Member Gregorio Casar, and Council Member Leslie Pool]

COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO YOU PULLED THIS ONE, I'LL HAVE TO REMIND MYSELF THIS IS THE, UH, UH, RELEVANT BUDGET FEE AMENDMENTS TO REIMAGINE PUBLIC SAFETY ASSOCIATED WITH AUSTIN CODE DEPARTMENT.

AH, THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS.

AND SO THIS MIGHT BE, I WROTE LIKELY TO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ON THURSDAY, BUT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A FEW INSTANCES IN OUR, WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF QUESTIONS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT INSTANCES IN MY DISTRICT WHERE CODE WAS WHAT WAS INVOLVED, BUT THERE WERE, THERE WAS PROBABLY A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AS WELL.

UM, OR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE, WERE HAVING CODE CALLED ON THEM.

AND I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE USEFUL.

AND I KNOW MY STAFF HAVE REACHED OUT THIS WEEK AND HAVE GOTTEN SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT KINDS OF RESOURCES CODE OFFERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND I WONDERED IF, IF, UM, WHOEVER IS HERE FROM CODE MIGHT, MIGHT TALK A LITTLE BIT THAT, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND THEY CAN AND DO MAKE REFERRALS TO MEALS ON WHEELS AND OTHER KINDS OF SERVICES.

AND IN PARTICULAR, I WONDERED WHETHER THERE WERE ANY RELATIONSHIPS THAT THE CODE DEPARTMENT HAS WITH, UM, SOCIAL WORKERS OR OTHERS WHO MIGHT DO MIGHT BE AT ASSISTANCE WHEN THEY'RE WORKING WITH A PROPERTY OWNER, FOR EXAMPLE, MIGHT, MIGHT HAVE A PROPERTY IN NEED OF PROPERTY ABATEMENT OR SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT THAT ARE, ARE REALLY MORE COMPLEX THAN A BEEN A PARTICULAR CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION CAN REALLY ADDRESS GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.

AND YES, WE HAVE CONVERSATION WITH YOUR STAFF.

WE'VE LAST YEAR WE LOST YOUR SON.

WELL, JUST SAID YOUR NAME.

DO YOU WANT TO TRY TO NOT DO YOUR VIDEO? AND IF THAT HELPS YOU WITH THE AUDIO, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.

OH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU NOW.

YOU ENA, DO WE HAVE ELAINE GARRETT IN THE, IN THE LINE? MAYBE LANE HAS A BETTER CONNECTION ON CHICKEN.

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

ACTUALLY, WE CAN HEAR YOU REALLY GOOD RIGHT NOW.

GO AHEAD.

OH, OKAY.

SO YES, WE DO PROVIDE A RESOURCES.

WE DO PROVIDE A LIST OF RESOURCES TO, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, ON WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH COMPLETING THE REPAIRS WHEN THEY HAVE ISSUES, UH, ARE THEY IN THE PROPERTY? SO THOSE ARE THE LEADS THAT WE HAVE AND WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE LIST AND WE CONTINUE TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WHEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES MOST RECENTLY WITH THE, UH, WITH THE VISION, UH, ISSUES.

WE, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE PROVIDE ALL THE RESOURCES THAT THEY IN THE TENNIS KNEE, BUT SHOULD WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE? SO PART OF THE JOB IS THAT WE, WE DO PROVIDE AT LEAST A RESOURCES TO WHEN WE HAVE, UH, UH, ISSUES, UH, AND NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS.

OH YEAH.

THINK THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY AS WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT CODE DEPARTMENT AND WHAT AUSTIN CODE OF THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.

VERY, I WAS INTERESTED TO LEARN THAT CODE CAN PROVIDE AND I HOPE DOES, AS A MATTER OF COURSE, WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE PROVIDE REFERRALS TO, I THINK I MENTIONED MEALS ON WHEELS TO PUBLIC HEALTH, TO OTHERS.

UM, I

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I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE.

I KNOW THE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND THE MEDICALLY VULNERABLE, UM, PROGRAM WITHIN AUSTIN ENERGY HAS ALSO A LIST OF RESOURCES.

AND I WOULD, AGAIN, FOR ONES THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THERE SEEM TO BE POTENTIALLY, UM, SOME, SOME REFERRALS TO SOCIAL, UM, TO MAYBE SOME SOCIAL WORK SUPPORT WHEN AGAIN, RED WARRANTED.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO SHIFT GEARS AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AS I SEE THIS RESOLUTION, UM, IT, IT IS ASKING, I MEAN, IT'S ASKING FOR AN ANALYSIS AND FOR SOME IDENTIFICATION OF, UM, WORKING WITH, WITH THE AUDITOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS VERY APPROPRIATE AND THEN POTENTIALLY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME FEE ADJUSTMENTS AND SHIFTING AND SHIFTING DUTIES TO AUSTIN CODE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE HAVE, I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING DIRECTION TO CONSIDER.

I WOULD SAY THERE ARE SEVERAL AREAS CONTINUE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS A COUNCIL, AS A COMMUNITY THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT WITHIN US IN CODE.

AND I, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR NEW DIRECTOR, UH, AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TACKLE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITHIN AUSTIN CODE.

AND SO I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE A REFLECTION ON YOUR LEADERSHIP BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION A VERY SHORT TIME AND WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER, YOU ARE YOU'RE ON MY SCREEN OVER THERE.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME PAST GREAT LEADERSHIP IN, IN YOUR ROLE AS WELL, BUT WE DO CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH REGARD TO A FEW AREAS.

UM, SUBSTANDARD, HOUSING AND ENFORCEMENT.

I WOULD IDENTIFY AS AN AREA WHERE, OR WE'VE TRIED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE STILL HAVEN'T.

WE STILL REALLY ARE NOT AT A PLACE WHERE I WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED.

WE WOULD BE IN MAKING SURE THAT, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY, UM, TAKE APPROPRIATE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS WHEN, WHEN THERE ARE RESIDENTS IN PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT BEING MAINTAINED IN SAFE AND HEALTHY MANNER.

AND THEN, AND THAT'S JUST ONE AREA.

THE OTHER AREA THAT I WOULD SAY WE CONTINUE TO PUT RESOURCES IN AND NOT SEEING THE KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS I WOULD HAVE WANTED TO HAVE SEEN IS IN SHORT TERM MARKETING.

SO WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR A COUPLE OF PIECES OF INFORMATION THROUGH OUR QUESTION AND ANSWER, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S RELEVANT FOR THURSDAY'S DISCUSSION AS MUCH AS RELEVANT FOR ANY, ANY FUTURE, UM, PARADIGM SHIFTING ACTION THAT WE MIGHT TAKE WITHIN AUSTIN CODE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN JUST IN MY TIME AS A COMMUNITY MEMBER AND MY TIME AS COUNCIL, I'VE SEEN THIS DEPARTMENT GO FROM, I THINK, SIX OFFICERS, FOUR OR SIX OFFICERS, I THINK AT ONE POINT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST AN OFFICER IN NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST, UM, TO A VERY LARGE ENTERPRISE FUND WITH LOTS OF OFFICERS.

THERE WERE MULTIPLE YEARS IN A ROW WHERE WE PUT MORE RESOURCES IN FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS THAT ARE AFTER HOURS ENFORCEMENT.

AND SO, AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THIS TO SOUND LIKE A CRITICISM OF THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP, BUT WE REALLY HAVE SOME AREAS THAT NEED, THAT ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCREASED EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS.

AND I NEED TO HAVE A REALLY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OUR PLAN IS FOR ACHIEVING THAT BEFORE WE ASSIGN ADDITIONAL DUTIES TO AUSTIN CODE.

SO FOR STARTERS, I'D BE INTERESTED IN SEEING, UM, A HISTORY OF FUNDING OVER SAY THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS, AND ALSO WITH NUMBER OF OFFICERS.

UM, I THOUGHT IN PAST BUDGET CYCLES, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE INCREASING IS TO HAVE THOSE AFTER HOURS OFFICERS YET.

I KNOW MULTIPLE TIMES I'M GETTING, UM, INDIVIDUALS CONSTITUENTS IN MY DISTRICT SOMETIMES.

AND IN Y'ALLS, UM, WHO ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE CALLING CODE AND THERE IS NOT AFTER HOURS ENFORCEMENT AT THE FIVE, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, BY MONDAY MORNING WHATEVER EVENT THAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING IT, THAT HAS STOPPED.

UM, SO THAT'S, ANYWAY, WE JUST NEED, I NEED TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW SOME OF THOSE PAST CHALLENGES ARE, ARE BEING ENFORCED OR ARE BEING, ARE BEING ATTENDED TO, AND WE CAN SAVE KIND OF MY CONVERSATION ABOUT, UM, SUBSTANTIVE HOUSING AND SOME OF THE, THE, SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES I SEE THERE, I'M GOING TO CODE MY OFFICE HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU, AND I'M INTERESTED IN RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE, AND I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING THEM, THEM THROUGH TO IMPLEMENTATION.

BUT JUST AS A, AS A NOTE TO MY COLLEAGUE, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS ON THURSDAY.

BUT AGAIN, BEFORE I'M READY TO VOTE FOR INCREASED FUNDING OR INCREASED RESPONSIBILITIES, I'M GOING TO BE SENDING A NOTE OF CAUTION THAT WE MAKE SURE THE CURRENT RESPONSIBILITIES ARE, ARE ON A PATH TO BEING BETTER ATTENDED TO.

WE ALSO HAVE GOTTEN SOME

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OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY EVALUATE FROM SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I KNOW THEY'VE EMAILED US ALL AND, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE APPROPRIATE VENUE IS FOR TALKING ABOUT THEM POTENTIALLY IN A LEGAL SESSION.

THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? UH, YOU GUYS ARE FLANAGAN.

AND THANKS TO MY CO-SPONSORS ON THIS ITEM.

SOME MEMBERS, FELLAS SAREN POOL, AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR, YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL.

WE JUST MISSED YOU ON THE POSTING.

SO THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS ITEM TWO, UM, UH, YES, COUNCIL MEMBER TOTAL.

I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.

UH, IT'S WHY YOU KIND OF THIS BIFURCATED INTO TWO PIECES.

ONE IS MAKING SURE THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS UNDER ENDURANCE, NEW LEADERSHIP, ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS THAT MANY OF US HEAR FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS AND THEN TAKING IT TO THE NEXT STEP AND TRYING TO DO THIS EXPLORATION IN PARALLEL.

UH, AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL BE A PLACE THAT WE CAN ALSO DO SOME OF THIS WORK IN THE FUTURE SINCE THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT IS DEFINED UNDER THAT COMMITTEE'S PURVIEW AS WELL.

SO, UM, UM, I'M REALLY EXCITED TO GET TO DIG INTO THIS AND, AND MR. ROY, I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU ARE ALSO EXCITED TO GET YOUR DEPARTMENT ONTO THE SIDE OF GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND, UH, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY THAT I'VE LEARNED TALKING TO TWO OFFICERS.

UH, CERTAINLY WHEN I MEET WITH THEM FREQUENTLY FROM MY DISTRICT ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP, THE POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE CODE DEPARTMENT, BUT ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THEY WERE ABLE TO BRAINSTORM JUST OFF THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD.

SO THERE'S REALLY SOME REALLY GOOD WORK I THINK, TO BE DONE THERE.

I'M EXCITED TO DIG INTO IT.

THANK YOU, COUNSELOR ALTAR.

I WANTED TO FIRST NOTE, UM, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FUNEKA DID THAT WE HAD A LITTLE VACATION SNAFU AND I WAS LEFT OFF THE POSTING, BUT I'M PROUD TO BE A COSPONSOR ON THIS.

I WANTED TO NOTE FOR COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO THAT THE AUDIT SPECIAL REQUEST REPORT IS IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THOSE COMMUNITY CONCERNS, AND WE WILL BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION BACK HOPEFULLY SOON, UM, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT WILL INFORM, UM, THE PROCESS.

UM, AND I JUST WANT TO UNDERSCORE THAT THERE'S REALLY THE TWO PARTS HERE.

ONE IS THE IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY.

UM, AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS THEY ARE REIMAGINING PUBLIC SAFETY AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE, UM, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT TO DO THAT.

WE MAY NEED TO CHANGE CERTAIN STRUCTURES TO MAKE THAT BE FEASIBLE BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY BEING CHALLENGED TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, AT THIS STAGE IN TIME.

SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE RESULTS AND SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND, UM, APPRECIATE MR. RUGS, UM, LEADERSHIP IN THE DEPARTMENT.

ON THE SAME PAGE.

ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS SIDE BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE? YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY MISUNDERSTANDING.

I THINK I SAID THIS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO UNDERSCORE ALSO HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP.

YOU'VE BEEN TREMENDOUSLY RESPONSIVE AND I'VE JUST A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ABILITY TO TAKE IN A RIGHT DIRECTION.

ALRIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 60.

THEN YOU HAVE ITEM NUMBER 66.

THOSE ARE ALL THE ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE THERE.

YOU HAVE TWO ITEMS TO CONSIDER AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS NEED THIS, UM, UM, FORUM AT FIVE 30.

UH, SO THAT'S YOUR OUTSIDE PARAMETER.

I'M GOING TO TURN THIS TO MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT BACK.

GOOD LUCK.

TALK ABOUT YOUR YOU'RE NOT PULLING 76 OR DO YOU START TO, IT WAS 76 WAS THE CALENDAR CHANGE.

AND I COVERED THAT A MOMENT AGO WHERE I SAID I POSTED IT, OR THERE'S A WORKOUT THAT THE OTHER CLERK BOTH BE THERE BY GOING TO MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND THE LAST WEEK OF JANUARY, AS OPPOSED TO TUESDAY, THURSDAY, I'LL BRING IT ON THURSDAY.

60 AND 66.

OF, OF WHERE WE ARE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE THING ON THURSDAY.

UH, COUNSELOR HARPER, MADISON, YOU PULL, UM, I, I JUST CUT MY, BUT I'M TRYING TO DO SOME FIRST AID.

COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT ITEM AND THEN I'LL BE WITH YOU.

I'LL BE READY IN JUST A MINUTE.

OKAY, SURE.

UH,

[66. C14-2020-0038 - 508 Kemp Street - Conduct a public hearing and approve second and third readings of an ordinance amending City Code Title 25 by rezoning property locally known as 508 Kemp Street (Country Club East Watershed). Applicant Request: To rezone from family residence - neighborhood plan (SF-3-NP) combining district zoning to townhouse and condominium residence - neighborhood plan (SF-6-NP) combining district zoning. First Reading: Approved townhouse and condominium residence - neighborhood plan (SF-6-NP) combining district zoning on August 27, 2020. Vote: 7-2. Council Members Alter and Tovo voted nay. Council Members Pool and Kitchen abstained. Owner: Johnny A. Steen. Applicant: Drenner Group (Leah M. Bojo). City Staff: Kate Clark, 512-974-1237. A valid petition has been filed in opposition to this rezoning request. District(s): District 3]

66.

VERY COOL.

UM, YEAH, SO, I MEAN, WE'RE ALL GETTING A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT THIS CASE.

UM, AND SO I WANTED TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY JUST TO KIND OF GET A SENSE

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UM, YOU, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN I LOOK AT THIS CASE AND, AND JERRY, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU, SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE HAD THIS, THIS, THIS TYPE OF CASE BEFORE US, BEFORE WHERE IT'S A LARGER LOT THAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR US AT THREE.

AND THEN WE'RE CONTEMPLATING DOING SSX AS A, IN, IN LARGE PART, AS A ENTREE INTO THE SITE PLANNING PROCESS VERSUS SUBDIVISION, WHICH IN MANY WAYS IS THE KEY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO ZONES.

JEREMY, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE CAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD ON PUBLIC IS THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THE ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATION BETWEEN SFC AND SFC.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THE ENFORCED OR THE ROLE OF SCRUTINY BETWEEN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN? I HAVE, UM, I BELIEVE MIKE MACDOUGAL FROM THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS ON THE LINE, HE AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWER.

UM, AND I THINK HE COULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, BEAR THAT I KEPT.

HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS MIKE MACDOUGAL.

I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY PROGRAM MANAGER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE CODE REQUIREMENTS ARE ACTUALLY THE SAME FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW AND FOR SUBDIVISION REVIEW.

SO BOTH REVIEW PATHWAYS ACHIEVED COMPONENT CODE, AND NEITHER IS ACTUALLY SUPERIOR TO THE OTHER.

UM, THE DIFFERENCES ARE, UM, THE ACTUAL PROCESS, UH, FOR THE REVIEWS AND THE REASON THAT IS WITH A SITE PLAN, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT.

AND SO WE DO REVIEW BASED ON EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO BE BUILT ON THE GROUND.

UM, BUT WITH A SINGLE FAMILY, SO DIVISION, UM, WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL PROJECT.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT, UH, WITH A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, WE KNOW WHAT A LOT LANDS WILL BE.

WE KNOW WHERE THE ROADS WILL BE.

WE KNOW WHAT THE PONDS WILL BE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE HOUSES WILL BE ON THE INDIVIDUAL LIVES.

THAT'S NOT DETERMINED UNTIL THE RESIDENTIAL REVIEW STAGE.

SO THE MAP, THE, THE CODE AND THE CRITERIA REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME, BUT THEIR APPROACH IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.

SO FOR SINGLE FAMILY REVIEW, WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, UH, ASSUMED IMPERVIOUS COVERS.

LANDY HAVE ONLY CODE SAYS FOR CERTAIN SIZED LOTS.

WE MUST ASSUME THAT CERTAIN SIZE HOUSE CAN BE SLOT.

AND SO WE APPLY, ASSUMED IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR SINGLE FAMILY WILL DO.

AND WE MAKE SURE THAT EACH SINGLE FAMILY LAW IS REASONABLY BUILDABLE.

IT WOULDN'T WANT TO CREATE A LOT THAT THEREFORE IS AUTOMATICALLY NOT BUILDABLE, BUT A HOUSE ON.

UM, BUT THE, THE DIFFERENCE OF COURSE, WITH THE SITE PLAN REVIEW IS WE ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE GROUND.

AND WE CAN DEFINITELY SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT'S BEING BUILT AND MAKE COMMENTS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO THAT.

BUT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT ON BOTH PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT EROSION CONTROL, THE SAME REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME.

WE LOOK AT GRADING, THE GRADING REQUIREMENTS ARE THE SAME.

WE APPLY IN PREVIOUS COVERED LIMITS.

UM, SO A MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITS FOR WATERSHED ARE DIFFERENT THAN SINGLE FAMILY, BUT THE CALCULATIONS ARE STILL THE SAME.

IT'S JUST THAT WE HAVE LIKE A, SAY THE ASSUMED IMPERVIOUS COVER PURSUING A FAMILY PROJECTS, BUT, BUT THEY'RE BOTH, UH, SUBJECT TO THE EXACT SAME CODE REQUIREMENTS.

AND NEITHER IS REALLY A SUPERIOR TO THE OTHERS.

JUST SUBDIVISION IS AN OVERALL, UH, COMPLIANCE WHERE CYCLING IS A LOT BY LOT COMPONENTS.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL.

AND THERE ARE ASSUMPTIONS MADE WHEN THOSE RULES ARE APPLIED TO SF THREE, BUT WHEN IT SETS UP SEX, IT'S MORE SPECIFIC TO WHAT'S ACTUALLY GETTING DONE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU THOUGHT? WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, I I'D HAVE TO, I'D HAVE TO CONSULT WITH JERRY ON THAT BECAUSE, UH, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PURPOSES, IF YOU HAVE ONE UNIT ON A, ON A LOT, THAT'S GENERALLY CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY.

UM, IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE UNITS ON A LOT THAT'S MULTIFAMILY AND THEN THERE'S COMMERCIAL.

SO FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PERSPECTIVES, THERE'S THREE CATEGORIES OF USES.

WE DON'T WANT TO ACTUALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS THAT ZONING MIGHT GET INTO, BUT AMONG THOSE THREE CATEGORIES ARE REVIEWED AS FLINT IS ALL THE SAME IN OUR, IN OUR APPLICATION CODE AND CRITERIA.

AND THE REGULATIONS ARE ALL THE SAME.

IN, IN BOTH OR ARE THEY COUNTED DIFFERENTLY IN SF SIX BECAUSE THEY'RE PRIVATE STREETS, THEY ARE NOT.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

LIKE THE, THE, THE RULES YOU STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE RULES, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR FAMILY IS.

THE QUESTION OF TIMING WHEN THOSE RULES APPLY, IS IT AT SUBDIVISION? IS IT A CONSTRUCTION? IS IT BRIGHT? AND SO MAYBE IT'S A SIX AND ONE HALF A DOZEN THAN THE OTHER SITUATION.

THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IF I'M, IF I CAN, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS THAT IN AN SF THREE, THE STREETS BECOME PUBLIC STREETS, BUT NSF SEX BY PRIVATE STREETS, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, YES, THAT IS CORRECT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT EVERY STREET TOUCH A PUBLIC LOT, WHEREAS FOR A SITE PLAN, A CONDO REGIME, IT WOULD, UH, UM, THEY WOULD JUST TOUCH, TOUCH THE STREET FROM KENNETH STREET, RIGHT.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CONNECTIVITY RULES AND SO SOMETIMES THAT'S GOOD AND THAT'S BAD, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE WHEN THERE'S NOT A CONNECTIVITY QUESTION, THERE'S NOT SOME OTHER STREET ON THE BACKSIDE WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO CONNECT TO THAT, THAT THIS IS THE QUESTION I'M EDITORIALIZING NOW.

AND THAT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A CONCERN IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC STREET.

I'LL TRY TO CLARIFY.

AND THEN ON THE IMPERVIOUS COVER, THE, THE STREETS ARE COUNTED

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SO ANYTHING PROPOSED TO BE DRIVEN ON WHETHER IT'S GRAVEL, DIRT, ASPHALT FOUND GREED, IF YOU PROPOSE TO DRIVE ON IT, IT'S IMPERVIOUS COVER.

AND, UM, AND SO FOR A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, WE WOULD ADD ALL THE STREETS TOGETHER, COLLECTIVELY FOR THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION AND ALL THE I'M ASSUMING THE PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT, THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND, AND ALL THE LOTS COLLECTIVELY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY.

SO THE STREETS WOULD INDEED COUNT AS IN PREVIOUS COVER LIKE ANYTHING ELSE OR THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.

IT'S JUST ONE DEVELOPMENT ON THE LOT AND JUST THE SAME, THE PRIVATE DRIVE, THE PRIVATE PARKING, PRIVATE DRIVE, ISLES DRIVEWAYS, ALL THAT WOULD COUNT AS IMPERVIOUS COVER TOO.

SO, SO REALLY FOR THE MOST PART IN PREVIOUS COVER IS, IS VERY BINARY.

IT'S EITHER IMPERVIOUS COVER OR IT'S NOT.

AND IF YOU DRIVE ON IT, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT'S MADE OF, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPERVIOUS COVER.

AND THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENCE IT'S COUNTED EITHER AT THE SUBDIVISION PLUS ASSUMED ON SINGLE FAMILY, LOTS COMMA OR IN THE SITE PLAN IS WHEN IT'S CALCULATED.

I'M SORRY.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

SO, SO WHEN WE'RE CALCULATING HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS COVER IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED OR BUILT THE STREETS ARE COUNTED EITHER WAY.

IT'S JUST, AGAIN, THE TIMING IT'S EITHER DONE AT SUBDIVISION WITH ASSUMPTIONS MADE ON THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, OR IT'S DONE ALL AT ONCE ON SITE.

IT'S CORRECT.

IF I COULD ADD ALSO THE SINGLE FAMILY STREET, IF IT WERE A SUBDIVIDED WOULD REQUIRE, WOULD BE BUILT WIDER INTO A DIFFERENT STANDARD.

SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY DO LESS IMPERVIOUS COVER WITH THE PRIVATE DRIVE.

RIGHT? THANK YOU, JERRY.

AND THAT'S THE PERFECT SEGUE INTO KIND OF MY COMMENT SLASH QUESTION FOR, FOR US AS A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A FEW OF THESE SSX CASES AND, AND I GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE FLEXIBILITY THE SITE PLAN PROCESS ALLOWS AND THE SPECIFICITY THAT IT CAN DO, AND THE SAFER STREETS THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE BUILT THAT ARE NARROWER.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN EVIDENCE FROM MANY SIDES THAT THE WIDER STREETS CAN BE PROBLEMATIC AND ENCOURAGE FASTER DRIVING AND ALL THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OTHER CONCERNS I'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE IMPACT TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES, BUT THE, THIS IS A PRIVATE LOT RIGHT NOW.

SO, SO WE'RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT AN OPTION THAT SAYS THE CITY CAN PURCHASE THIS OR THAT THE CITY CAN DETERMINE BEYOND THE RULES OF ZONING.

AND, AND I THINK SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THE, SOME FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC STRUGGLE WITH THIS KIND OF ARCANE ZONING UNIVERSE THAT IS EVOLVED AND BECOME A MONSTER OVER TIME.

SO MY FINAL QUESTION, AS WE THINK ABOUT GOING INTO THURSDAY IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SITE THAT WAS GOING TO HAVE UNDER SF THREE, AND THEN I'VE SEEN DIFFERENT WAYS TO CALCULATE THIS 15 TO 20 DUPLEXES COULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, IT, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SUBDIVIDE VERSUS WHICH WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, 20 TO 30 TO MAYBE 40 DRAWING UNITS.

CAUSE YOU CAN ADDRESS THAT THROUGH A DUPLEX OR POSSIBLY SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES THAT ARE SMALLER SPREAD OUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY BECAUSE OF THE SITE PLAN, YOU MAY BE ABLE TO ACCESS AFFORDABILITY AND LOCKED IN A BETTER WAY THAN MAYBE ACCESS TO DOING PORTABLE HOUSING IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

I MEAN, THAT'S, TO ME THAT SEEMS LIKE THE CHOICE THAT'S IN FRONT OF US, BUT I JUST, DON'T, I'M HEARING THINGS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT I DON'T KNOW, HEAR WHEN THE ZONING CASE AND THE DETAILS BEHIND IT SEEMED SO SIMILAR TO THE CASES WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.

AND SO I, I MEAN, I INTEND TO SUPPORT IT FOR THE REASONS THAT I, THAT I LAID OUT, BUT I'M CURIOUS GIVEN THAT THERE'S A VALID PETITION AND THERE'S NO WILLINGNESS AS IT SEEMS FROM THE PETITIONERS TO RELINQUISH THAT VALID PETITION.

AND HOW, HOW ARE WE THINKING WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN A UNIVERSITY EATING SO MANY VOTES.

POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THESE DIFFICULT ZONING CASES.

PRETEND, I'M SORRY.

THE SOCIAL SERVICES BRANCH IT'S BILLOWING UP OVER HERE, TURN THESE NOTIFICATIONS OFF.

SO YEAH, THIS IS, THIS CASE HAS REALLY BEEN, UM, TRYING, YOU KNOW, DURING THE SECOND READING OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL RECALL.

WE RECEIVED A PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE THE CALLER WAS WONDERING WHERE THE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AFFORDABLE COMPONENT ON THIS SITE WENT.

AND FRANKLY, IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, FIRST READING, WE HAD LANDED ON 25 UNITS AND TWO OF THOSE WERE GOING TO BE OFFERED AT 80% MFI.

AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, I'M JUST HEARTENED THAT THE NEW AGREEMENT CAPS THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE SITE'S CURRENT THREE ZONING.

UM, THERE'S A FEW OTHER THINGS.

IT REDUCED THE NUMBER OF UNITS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S NOT EVEN FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO OFFER AN INCOME RESTRICTED UNIT.

AND THE MARKET RATE PIPE PRICE POINT OF THESE UNITS WILL BE HIGHER, UM, THAN THE ORIGINAL, THE PROPOSAL, REALLY, I GUESS, MORE THAN ANYTHING I WANT TO

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UM, I'M SORRY, GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT.

I HAVE TO TURN OFF THESE NOTIFICATIONS.

I'M SO SORRY.

I'M GONNA MEET WITH THEM FOR JUST A MOMENT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTED TO GET THAT HAD ANY COMMENTS ON THOSE CASES? OKAY, SORRY.

I'M BACK, BUT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TURN THE NOTIFICATIONS.

SO Y'ALL ARE JUST GONNA HAVE TO Y'ALL ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO HEAR THE DINGING.

MY APOLOGIES.

UM, AND SO, UH, WITH, WITH THIS ONE, I'M SORRY, I WAS MAKING REFERENCE TO ITEM NUMBER 60.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 66.

THIS IS THE CAMP ONE.

UM, AND THIS, THIS ONE IS TRICKY.

THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE.

UM, AND WE, UH, I THINK WE'VE TRIED OUR BEST TO CONVEY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHAT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ARE HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN REALLY CONVEYING IT IF FOR NO OTHER REASON.

SO MUCH OF IT IS REALLY COMPLICATED, RIGHT? SO IT, IT'S A LITTLE KNOWN FACT THAT THE LEGACY OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IS ABSOLUTELY ROOTED IN RACISM IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS.

UM, THE DEEDS TO HOMES AND A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENTS REALLY CONTAINED RACIAL COVENANTS.

THEY RESTRICTED WHO COULD PURCHASE A HOME BASED ON THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.

UM, THERE'S, UH, ONE SOMEBODY IN MY OFFICE WAS TELLING ABOUT, UH, IN BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA, THERE WAS A DEVELOPER WHO, UM, HE HAD A PROBLEM WHAT TO DO ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HE DIDN'T CONTROL.

UM, HE WAS ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT BLACK OWNED, UH, ABOUT A BLACK HOLE ON DANCE HALL THAT WAS LOOKING TO MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEARBY.

SO HE AND THE OTHER DEVELOPERS, THEY GOT THE CITY THERE TO DO SOMETHING THAT NO OTHER CITY EVER HAD.

THEY MADE IT ILLEGAL TO BUILD ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON A SINGLE LOT IN CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND TODAY WE KNOW IT AS, YOU KNOW, THE EVOLUTION OF IT.

WE KNOW IT AS SINGLE FAMILIES ZONING.

UM, SO THIS TREND, IT BEGAN IN BERKELEY, BUT IT'S SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE.

AND THAT INCLUDES RIGHT HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS.

UM, AND UNLIKE THE RACIAL COVENANTS, THERE REALLY WASN'T ANYTHING IS EXPLICITLY RACIST ABOUT ZONING.

UM, BUT WHAT THIS DID WAS DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IT USED ECONOMIC SEGREGATION TO SEPARATE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY.

UM, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS WERE JUST MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE BUYING A HOUSE ON A LARGE LOT COSTS MORE THAN RENTING OR BUYING AN APARTMENT.

AND SO THIS IS ABOUT INSTITUTIONAL RACIST POLICIES, PERIOD, UH, WEALTH AND RACE WERE INEXTRICABLY LINKED.

AND THERE'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE TODAY, FRANKLY.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE PRESENT.

I THINK DECADES OF ZONING FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN OUR METRO AREA HAS LED TO AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHORTAGE.

UM, AND WHEN YOU COUPLE THAT WITH SEGREGATION AND SPRAWL AND LONGER COMMUTES AND HIGHER CARBON EMISSIONS AND MISS ECONOMIC GROWTH, WE, WE REALLY OUR EXPERIENCE AND WHAT I IMAGINE WILL GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST MOVEMENTS, UM, FOR RACIAL JUSTICE IN OUR HISTORY, IT'S STILL GOING STRONG.

THIS, I THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO RECONCILE FOR ALL THE WRONGS, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ROOTED IN RACISM.

I THINK AMERICANS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS, UM, THEY'RE REALLY ENGAGED IN A NEW FRANKLY UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ROLE OF SYSTEMIC RACISM.

UM, AND WE, WE CAN'T MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS AND THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS.

I OFTEN GET ASKED, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN I BE AN EFFECTIVE ANTI-RACIST? HOW CAN I DO MY PART? UH, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF ANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION, BUT ONE ANSWER SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, TO DITCH THAT, NOT IN MY BACKYARD MENTALITY, EMBRACE MORE DENSE, MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES TO ACCOMMODATE MORE RESIDENTS WITH LESS LAND, MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING EIGHT, RIGHT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND NOT ONLY WOULD THAT HELP PUT AN END TO OUR SEGREGATED COMMUNITIES, BUT IT'LL ALSO HELP MORE CONNECTED, MORE PROSPEROUS, MORE VIBRANT PLACES TO LIVE FOR MORE PEOPLE AND MORE PARTS OF THE CITY.

UM, AND I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH, THAT THE CITYWIDE PART, WE REALLY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF THE PUSHBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING AND I'M CERTAIN THAT WE'RE ALL PROBABLY GETTING THE SAME EMAILS.

SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN CUSTOMIZED FOR ME, UM, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE.

I APPRECIATE WHEN PEOPLE TAKE THE TIME TO CUSTOMIZE THE LETTER, UM, NOT THAT I DON'T APPRECIATE THE FORM LETTER, THAT EVERYBODY COPS AT COPIES AND PASTES, BUT WHEN YOU TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE, NOT WHAT SOMEBODY TOLD YOU TO SAY, THEN IT'S EASIER FOR ME TO LIKE, ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH FEELING SORT OF ISOLATED IN BEARING THE BRUNT OF THE LOAD.

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NO ONE AREA SHOULD HAVE TO CARRY THE WEIGHT OF DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE BROUGHT ON BY THE FACT THAT THAT OUR CITY HAS GROWN.

IT, IT EXACERBATES GENTRIFICATION, IT DRIES UP HOUSING COSTS, AND FRANKLY, THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS TOWN.

UM, AND YOU KNOW, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ITEM.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, A PARTNERSHIP WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

UM, THE, THIS PROPOSAL IS AIMING TO BRING 17 UNITS BETWEEN 60 AND 80% MFI.

UM, THAT THAT'S THE BEST WE CAN DO HERE.

AND I, I FEEL LIKE IF WE FIGHT TO GET THE BEST, IF WE FIGHT TO ACCESS AFFORDABILITY UNLOCKED ALONG WITH HAVING A PARTNER LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY, UM, WE'VE TAKEN A CONSIDERATION THAT COSTS OF FINANCING CONSTRUCTION.

IF WE GOT TO THE DEEPEST LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY IN THIS, UM, WITH THIS CASE, THEN I FEEL LIKE, YES, IT'S COMPLICATED.

IT'S COMPLEX.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, IDEAL FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S THE BEST WE COULD DO UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND I REALLY WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE TO, I REALLY WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE TO NOT DISREGARD THE ALTERNATIVE, YOU KNOW, THE ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WOULD FRANKLY BE VERY FEW REALLY EXPENSIVE PROPERTIES AND THAT DOESN'T HOUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T, HOW'S ANYBODY AFFORDABLY.

AND I THINK LASTLY, THE THING, YOU KNOW, JIMMY, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT THAT, UM, ABOUT WHAT I'LL TELL YOU OFFLINE.

THE, THE THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON HERE IS LIKE, ALL OUR FAMILIES ARE DIFFERENT AND AFFORDABILITY IS RELATIVE.

UH, AND THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS BLACK FAMILIES SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN TOO.

WE'RE NOT EXTREMELY POOR, BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT WEALTHY AND NOWHERE NEAR UPPER, MID, UPPER MIDDLE WE'RE RIGHT.

SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE.

AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF FAMILIES THAT ARE GETTING LEFT OUT OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.

SO MY HOPE IS THAT MOVING FORWARD, WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EXPAND ON THE IDEA OF WHAT'S AFFORDABLE AND FOR WHOM, UM, CAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL.

THAT WAS ABOUT IT.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO, FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU SAID THE MARKET RATE HOUSING ENDED UP BEING HIRED NOW THAN IT WAS BEFORE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT ITEMS, RIGHT.

WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT 66? OKAY.

THAT'S NOT 60, RIGHT.

I STARTED AT 60 AND THEN MY ITEM WAS 60, 66 WAS WHAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER FLANNIGAN BROUGHT OUT, CORRECT.

BECAUSE THAT, I WAS GOING TO ASK STAFF ABOUT IF THEY COULD GO OVER THE AFFORDABILITY, THE AFFORDABLE UNITS.

UM, BUT I THINK THOSE MAY BE QUESTIONS THAT I JUST SAW COUNSELOR CASAREZ AND COUNCIL MEMBER, BRENT, THAT HE HAS HANDS GO UP.

SO I'LL JUST FIRST RECOGNIZE COUNCIL MEMBER DONE.

THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SUBDIVISION AND SITE PLANNING.

POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THE VERY HARD WHEN NOT WHEN THEY CAME BEFORE, MAN, I ASKED HIM WHAT KIND OF AFFORDABILITY THEY WAS GOING TO OFFER.

UH, AND I DIDN'T LIKE IT.

AND I TOLD HIM, I SAID, THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET THIS PASSED TO THE COUNCIL WITH A VALID PETITION.

AND THEY CA THEY WENT BACK AND STUDY IT AND FOUND OUT THAT THEY COULD DO OFFER UP TO 17 UNITS AT, AT, UH, AFFORDABLE, REALLY REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING OWNERSHIP.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT EXCITED, EXCITED ME, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO THE OFFER TO THE OFFER FOR THE RIGHT TO RETURN TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, I BOUGHT MY FIRST HOUSE THERE AT MONTOPOLIS, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AND IT GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DISCOVER HOMEOWNERSHIP AND, AND, UH, AND REALLY GOT ME OUT OF THE LIVING CONDITIONS THAT I WAS LIVING BEFORE.

THEN, YOU KNOW, IN A, IN A 10, TWO BEDROOM HOUSE WITH NINE OF US LIVING UNDER HER.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, UH, IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND I, I REALLY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE OFFER, WE, UH, IF THEY, WE TURNED DOWN THIS DEAL AND THEY BUILT JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT THERE ON THAT SAME STREET, AND THEY'RE TWO STORAGE HOUSES, AND I'M SURE THAT BY THE TIME THEY BUY THE LAND AND SELL THE, THE HOUSE, IT'S GOING TO BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 400 AND $500,000 HOMES.

UH, IF NOT MORE, DEPENDING ON YOUR VIEW AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEN WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR FAMILIES.

OUR TEACHERS ARE, YOU KNOW, FIREFIGHTERS THAT WANT TO BE ABLE TO, TO LIVE IN, UM, AND BE ABLE TO AFFORD A HOUSE, YOU KNOW, ON THE WAGES THAT THEY'RE MAKING RIGHT

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NOW.

SO THIS IS WHAT IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

I MEAN, IF WE DO NOT PASS THIS, DAN, UH, I JUST GOING TO SEE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN REACH OF THE MIDDLE CLASS, LOWER MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE.

THERE ARE NOT EVEN THE MIDDLE CLASS.

UH, I SEE THAT HAPPENED IN HERE OR, YOU KNOW, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAID THE CHILD IS SO, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, HALF A LOT WITH A HOUSE ON IT'S GOING AT $700,000.

AND I BOUGHT MY HOUSE TWO 21.

I HAVE TWO HOUSES ON THE LOT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THESE DENTS THAT YOU'D HAVE TO RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM ME JUST ON THE SAME STREET, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY, UH, REBECCA BAY AND IS BEING BUILT THERE.

AND THERE, WE GOT CLOSE TO 800.

YOU YOU'D AT SARAH GOING TO BE BUILT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE ALREADY, AT LEAST IN SOME OF IT, YOU KNOW, UH, IT'S, IT'S JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, YEAH.

I SAW WHAT IT DID TO MUELLER.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OVER A 25% OF THOSE HOUSES OVER THERE ARE AFFORDABLE FOR A PORTABLE THEY'RE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

A PEOPLE CAN NOT TELL, THEY ALWAYS SAY ALL THESE, ALL THE RICH PEOPLE A BIT MUELLER, IT'S NOT TRUE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN A SAFE HOUSE.

AND THIS IS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF 17 FAMILIES, LOW INCOME FAMILY WITH BEING ABLE TO BUY THEIR OWN HOME.

SO, UH, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT IT, UH, UH, ON HOW IT HAS DEVELOPED PETITION, UH, UH, BUT, UH, I, I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE MISSING OUT ON A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IF WE DON'T SUPPORT THIS.

UM, YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AND HEARD, UM, WHAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AND SO HAPPY TO, TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

CAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU WANTED TO, TO, UH, TALK SOME ABOUT THAT AND THEN ALSO HAD A FOLLOW UP TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER FIGHTING AGAINST SAID ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.

UM, SO FIRST TO THE POINT ABOUT, UM, INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING AND SOME OF THE, UM, MESSAGES THAT I'VE GOTTEN, JUST LIKE Y'ALL HAVE GOTTEN FROM, THERE'VE BEEN A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WHEN I'VE EMAILED THEM BACK AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE PROPOSAL HAS CHANGED FROM AN ALMOST ENTIRELY ALL MARKET RATES PROPOSAL TO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER AT NVIDIA DESCRIBED, WHERE THE BUILDERS CAME BACK WITH A PARTNERSHIP WITH HABITAT SAYING THAT A MAJORITY OF THE HOUSING NEEDS TO BE FOR LOWER INCOME HOMEOWNERS.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE EMAILED IN AT LEAST THAT I'VE GOTTEN IN A SENSE OF NOTE BACK TO HAVE, HAVE A THAT'S BEEN NEWS TO THEM.

AND SO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES WILL BE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOMES WITH THE MINORITY, THEN BEING THE MARKET RATE HELPS.

UM, WE'VE GOTTEN QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, WHAT 60 TO 80% MFI NEEDS.

UH, I THINK AS COUNCIL MEMBER AT NVIDIA LAID OUT, IT IS HOUSING FOR A TEACHER, BUT A TEACHER THAT IS A SINGLE PARENT, UH, BECAUSE IF IT'S TWO AISD TEACHERS AND THEIR KIDS, UH, THEY'D PROBABLY MAKE TOO MUCH AND THE HOUSING IS TOO CHEAP, UM, FOR THEM TO, TO MAKE IT.

SO THIS IS WORKING, YOU KNOW, OVERWHELMINGLY, YOU KNOW, OUR HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAMS, UH, DON'T GET TO THE LOWEST INCOME RENTERS, BUT IT IS TOR, YOU KNOW, THAT SINGLE PARENTS WHO'S A TEACHER OR FOR, UH, PEOPLE THAT ARE EACH IN A WORKING CLASS JOB, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, WHOSE COMBINED INCOMES MIGHT BE $60,000 A YEAR.

UH, AND SO THAT IS, THAT IS HOUSING THAT WE NEED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I ALSO HAVE HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF REALLY LOW INCOME RENTERS AT MONTOPOLIS, WHICH IS TRUE, AND WE DO NEED MORE INCOME RESTRICTED, REALLY DEEP, UH, AFFORDABILITY, RENTAL HOUSING.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, ON THIS SITE, BACK IN 2019, IT WAS PROPOSED ORIGINALLY TO BE A MUCH LOWER INCOME, UH, RENTAL PROPERTY, BUT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION TO THAT.

AND I THINK THAT PROJECT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION, NEVER CAME TO US.

UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THAT PROJECT.

I DON'T THINK I, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT AS COUNSELOR LINDA YES.

AND THE ALL MARKET RATE PROJECT, BUT I WOULD'VE SUPPORTED THAT DEEP AFFORDABILITY RENTAL PROJECT NOW THAT WE HAVE A AFFORDABLE HOME OWNERSHIP PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S ONE THAT WE CAN SUPPORT HERE AS WELL.

I THINK THE TWO BEDROOMS, DEPENDING ON A FAMILY'S INCOME, CAUSE THEY ADJUST THE PRICE BASED ON WHAT YOU CAN PAY.

TWO BEDROOM MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, 140 TO 180 SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS, WHICH OF COURSE IT'S WAY CHEAPER THAN THE NEW HOUSES BEING BUILT HERE.

NOW.

UM, MY SUBDIVISION QUESTION FOR STAFF IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT FOR THIS NEW PROPOSAL, WITH

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SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY WOULD THEN HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHECKS WITH THE ASSUMPTIONS ON THE FRONT END WITH THE SUBDIVISION? AND THEN THE SPECIFICS ON SITE PLANNING IS THAT RIGHT CONSEQUENCES, THIS THE REST OF, UM, THE, UH, IF THEY WERE TO PLAN IT FOR A CONDO DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD APPLY TO IT AS A SINGLE LOT SUBDIVISION AND THEN THEY WOULD FOLLOW IT UP WITH A SITE PLAN FOR THE CONDOMINIUM REGIME SOUTH, THE SUBDIVISION REVIEW FOR THE SINGLE LOT SUBDIVISIONS RATHER EASIER, BUT IT WOULD BE CAUGHT UP WITH THE, UH, THE SITE PLAN REVIEW, BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE MORE ACCURATE ONE WITH, WITH CYCLING WITHOUT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAPPENED.

THAT IS CORRECT.

SO ULTIMATELY YOU'RE, I THINK THE POINT IS YOU ARE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO LOOK AT EXACTLY WHERE THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE.

SO YOU HAVE THE MOST ACCURATE REVIEWS YOU CAN GET ON SITE PLAN.

YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT SIZE OF BUILDINGS.

YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, THAT ONSITE PLAN, THEN YOU ARE, YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT EXACTLY WHERE THE HOUSE IS GOING TO BE AS YOU LOOK AT EROSION AND OTHER AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL GOALS.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER, AND THEN JUST TO, IT IS SF PRETTY AND YOU COULD BUILD UP TO, IS IT TWO UNITS? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE? THE ZONING DOESN'T DOESN'T CHANGE.

REMEMBER WITHOUT JERRY REST OF THEM, WITHOUT SUBDIVIDING, YOU COULD BUILD TWO UNITS, A DUPLEX, YOU COULD SUBDIVIDE IT INTO MULTIPLE LOTS AND BUILD TWO UNITS PER LOT.

YOU'D HAVE TO MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL REQUIREMENTS WE WERE SPEAKING OF EARLIER AND PROVIDE A PUBLIC STREET ACCESS TO RELAPSE.

BUT THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT COULD PROBABLY BE, UH, NEARLY THE SAME NUMBER, UM, THAT THEY COULD GET WITH THE CONDOMINIUM REGIME IF YOU PRESENTED A DUPLEX ON EVERY LINE.

SO IF THIS DOESN'T PASS, THEY COULD ESSENTIALLY GET THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS AND THERE WOULD BE NO, NO AFFORDABILITY.

IS THAT CORRECT? UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT, ACTUALLY, THE STAFF HAS NOT LAID OUT THE PLAN FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.

WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE APPLICANT THAT THEY BELIEVE THEY COULD GET NEARLY THE SAME NUMBER AND YES, IT WOULD NOT THERE BE NO REQUIREMENT FOR AFFORDABILITY.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THOUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, UNDER STATE LAW, WE CANNOT REQUIRE AFFORDABILITY AS A CONDITION OF THE SONY APPROVAL, BUT THE APPLICANT, MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR PARTICIPATION IN THE AFFORDABILITY AND LOCK PROGRAM AND PARTNERING UP WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.

MOVE ON TO ITEM 60 BACK ITEM 60 COUNSELOR.

THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I'LL

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CAUSE OUR LAST POINT, MAYOR PRO TEM, THERE HAS BEEN SOME QUESTION FROM THE, FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UH, ON THE BACK BACK, UM, ABOUT SOME OF THE, NOT GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE PRESERVE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE'S PROBABLY SOME LEVEL OF AGREEMENT, KEEPING HOMES FURTHER AWAY BACK.

AND SO WE NEED TO VOTE TAG BY THE END YOU GET TO, THEN I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE WISE FOR US.

THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT.

UM, COUNSELOR HARPER VENISON.

YES MA'AM.

UM, SO LIKE I WAS SAYING EARLIER, UH, THE SECOND READING OF THIS CASE, WE HAD RECEIVED A COMMENT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY ON THIS SITE, UM, AND WHERE IT WENT AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS A GREAT QUESTION.

THE LAST ITEM, I'M SORRY.

THIS, AS WELL AS THE OTHER.

ARE WE ON THE NEXT ITEM? YES.

DID WE NEED TO GO BACK TO 66? IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE ASKING? NO, I THINK HE WAS ASKING IF WE HAD MOVED ON FROM THAT ITEM, IN WHICH CASE GOOD.

I JUST, I WAS GETTING CONFUSED AS WELL.

UM, SO YEAH, SO I WAS SAYING THE, UM, THE, THE, THE 25 UNITS WITH TWO OF THOSE BEING OFFERED AT 80%, MFI ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONE NOW, NOW WE'RE LIMITING THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND NOW THE AFFORDABILITY IS, IS ENTIRELY GONE.

UM, AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES WHERE, YOU KNOW, I WAS DISHEARTENED AT THE, AT THE OUTCOME.

I'M GLAD THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE DEVELOPERS WERE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

BUT, UM, THE FACT THAT WE GOT BACK TO THE POINT WHERE THE NUMBER OF UNITS, YOU KNOW, IS BACK TO THE POINT WHERE THERE'S JUST, THERE'S, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO OFFER ANY INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS.

UM, AND THE MARKET RATE PRICE POINT OF THESE UNITS WILL BE HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED.

SO I JUST MUCH LIKE THE LAST ONE, THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED CASE AND WE'VE, MY OFFICE HAS POURED COUNTLESS HOURS INTO

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UH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONSIDER OUR PRIORITIES AROUND HOUSING.

UH, IF IT'S TO PROVIDE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT THEY CAN AFFORD, UM, FRANKLY LIMITING HOUSING, ISN'T GONNA GET US THERE.

IF IT'S TO PREVENT CHANGE IN OUR CITY LIMITED HOUSING, ISN'T GOING TO GET US THERE.

UH, WE, WE CAN'T LIMIT HOUSING.

UH, WE CREATE THE SELLERS MARKET WHERE THAT LIMITED SUPPLY GOES TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES WHEN PEOPLE ARE ADVOCATING FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY'RE NOT RECOGNIZING THAT SOMETIMES YOU WERE IN IT FOR CERTAINLY PUTTING YOURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE THE OUTCOME, THE YIELD IS NOT WHAT YOU WANTED AT ALL.

IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE AND THE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT ARE THE ONES WHO MOVE IN.

NOT YOUNG FAMILIES, NOT WORKING CLASS RESIDENTS, NOT CREATIVES, NOT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.

THEY ALL HAVE TO MOVE TO THE SUBURBS.

AND ALL THAT SAID, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE APPLICANT, THEY WORKED VERY HARD TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT VERY HARD.

THIS HAS BEEN A LONG, LONG PROCESS.

UM, I'M PREPARED TO VOTE, UH, TO APPROVE THIS ON THE THIRD READING, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONS AGREED UPON BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THIS IS A HARD ONE FOR ME, CAUSE I THINK IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHEN, WHAT PEOPLE ARE ATTEMPTING TO ADVOCATE FOR.

ISN'T IT ALL WHAT THEY GOT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE ALL MOVE FORWARD WITH FUTURE CONVERSATIONS AROUND DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE GOAL OF CREATING MORE HOUSING AND OFFERING MORE IN THE WAY OF ACCESSIBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY FOR MORE INCOME LEVELS, MORE TYPES OF FAMILIES IN ALL PARTS OF THE CITY, I'M GOING TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT WE NEED IT SO BADLY.

AND WE, WE JUST CAN'T KEEP FINDING OURSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE WE GET NOTHING OUT OF THE DEAL.

THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, THOSE WERE ALL THE ITEMS, MAYOR.

IT'S JUST THREE EXECUTIVES.

DO YOU WANT ME TO WRITE THE SCRIPT FOR YOU? YOU GOT IT.

I GOT IT.

COUNCIL IS NOT GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO TAKE UP, UH, THREE ITEMS PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, ONE OH EIGHT, NINE AND GOVERNMENT CODE.

HI GUYS.

UM, CITY

[Executive Session]

WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS INFORMATION SECURITY RELATED TO ITEM E TWO CONFIDENTIAL NETWORK SECURITY INFORMATION PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, ONE OH SEVEN.

ONE OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE, THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM E THE EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND ALSO ITEM 80.

UH, IWAN HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

UH, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, WE'LL NOW GO INTO, UH, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION STAFF HERE.