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20, 20 IT'S THURSDAY.[Call to Order]
IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 15TH, 2020.THIS IS AUSTIN CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS IS A MEETING BEING HELD VIRTUALLY.
WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT, UH, SO WE CAN, UM, START OUR MEETING.
WE HAVE SOME CHANGES AND CORRECTIONS I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
I HAD TO REMEMBER TO WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE ELECTRIC UTILITY COMMISSION ON THE VOTE OF SEVEN ZERO IN COMMISSIONER HAYDEN OFF THE DIETS OF COMMISSIONERS.
FUCK HOUSER STONE AND RAY ABSENT ITEM NUMBER 27 IS NOT TO RATIFY, BUT RATHER IT IS TO AUTHORIZE A NEGOTIATION.
YOU EXECUTION OF AN AMENDMENT ITEMS, 31 44 45 AND 47 RECOMMENDED BY THE WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION, UH, ON A NINE ZERO VOTE WITH COMMISSIONER TO RIETTA ABSENT ITEM 46 RECOMMENDED BY THE WATER WASTEWATER COMMISSION ON AN EIGHT OH, VOTE WITH COMMISSIONER MARIETTA, ABSENT INFORMATION THERE.
MICHAEL RECUSING ITEM NUMBER 50 ADDS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
AUTHOR IS A SPONSOR ITEM 79, UH, ADDS A AS SPONSORS COUNCIL MEMBERS, CIOBO ALTAR, ALICE POOL AND MYSELF COLLEAGUES.
IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY, UH, IS ITEMS ONE THROUGH 52 AND ALSO, UH, 69 THROUGH, UH, UH, 81 THROUGH 52 AND 69 THROUGH 80 WITH RESPECT TO PULLED ITEMS. UM, WE'RE PULLING ITEM NUMBER 71.
I THINK WE NEED TO, THERE WERE SOME UNANSWERED QUESTIONS LAST TIME ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FUNDING ITEMS. I ASKED HIM, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ALSO BEING PULLED 73 74 AND 75, WHICH ARE THE SAVES PROGRAM, UH, ELEMENTS.
AND, UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT THAT ITEM NUMBER 80, UH, I'M ALSO, UH, PULLEY.
WE HAVE, UH, UH, TO SPEAK TO US TODAY, UH, ON THE, UH, WARNING ITEMS. THIS WOULD BE OTHER THAN THE ZONING ITEMS AND OTHER THAN CITIZENS COMMUNICATION SPEAKERS AT 18 PEOPLE.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE EACH OF THEM THREE MINUTES EACH TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO US.
UH, WE'LL TAKE A LUNCH BREAK, UH, ABOUT, UH, NOON AFTER WE CALLED THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION SPEAKER AT NOON.
AND THERE IS ONE, WE'LL TAKE A BREAK AT TWO O'CLOCK, UH, IT'S THE INTENT TO CALL THE, UH, UH, SPEAKERS, UH, FOR THE ZONING CASES.
I THINK WE HAVE A 60, SOME ODD MOST OF THEM ON ONE CASE.
UH, I HEAR THERE MAY BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, POSTPONING THAT CASE.
UH, SO IT DOESN'T, UH, IT WOULDN'T COME UP TODAY.
UM, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT LATER.
UH DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE, BUT I JUST ALERT THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
UH, AND, UH, THERE'S AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TODAY SCHEDULED TO DISCUSS ITEM NUMBER 80.
UH, SO THE CONSIDERATION THAT ITEM, WE NEED TO FOLLOW THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO, SO FAR OUR PULLED ITEMS I HAVE AT THIS POINT ARE 71 73, 74 75, PROBABLY CAUSE I WOULD LEAVE ITEM NUMBER 76 ON THE CONSENT, BUT WITH THE AMENDMENT, UH, THAT MOVES THE MEETING IN THAT LAST WEEK IN JANUARY, FROM TUESDAY, THURSDAY TO MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT? YES.
UM, I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION.
I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT BUDGET HEARINGS AND WHETHER WE HAD A SUFFICIENT
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NUMBER OF BUDGET HEARINGS.UM, WE HAD TALKED IN THE PAST OF HAVING ONE OF THOSE ON A SATURDAY.
UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE HEARING SET AND THEN THERE'S LIKE THE DAY THAT WE HAVE TO HEAR THE TAX RATE, WHICH IS MEANT AS A BUDGET HEARING.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT HAS TO BE RESOLVED TO PASS THIS AT THIS MINUTE.
THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WE TAKE UP, UM, IN JANUARY WITH THE NEW COUNCIL, BUT, UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE BUDGET HEARINGS ON TA AT TIMES WHEN PEOPLE CAN COME AND JUST HAVING THEM DURING THE WEEK, DURING THE DAY DOES NOT OFFER THAT OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU FOR RECENTLY, COUNCIL MEMBER, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSING.
WE AT A MINIMUM, WANTS TO SET THE, UH, NEW ONES THAT WERE REQUIRED.
AND THEN AS YOU POINTED OUT, WE ARE, WE ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT ADDITIONAL HEARINGS.
NOT THE COUNCIL MIGHT BE EARLY IN THE YEAR.
AS LONG AS WE'RE PLANNING TO DO THAT EARLY IN THE YEAR, THEN I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO MOVING FORWARD AND CONSENT WITH MAYOR ADLER'S COMMITMENT.
THAT'LL REMAIN ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I ALSO HAD AN AMENDMENT TO ITEM NUMBER 72, WHICH IS THE BUSINESS, UH, PRESERVATION FUND SO THAT IT COULD, UH, HELP DEFRAY SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE OR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE COSTS OF THE SAVES RESOLUTION.
UM, LET ME GO AHEAD AND PULL A 72 ON X.
I DON'T SEE KATHY HERE, SO WE'LL PULL 72 AS WELL.
I NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO LOOK OVER YOUR AMENDMENT AND THEN I HAVE SOME LANGUAGE CHANGES AS WELL.
AND SO AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME I WAS GOING TO PULL, SEND THROUGH TOO.
SO WE'RE PULLING SO FAR 71 72, 73, 74, 75 AND EIGHT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO BEFORE WE CALL THE, UH, UH, 18 SPEAKERS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, UM, JUST MAY OR MAY NOT PLACE TO ASK THE QUESTION, BUT DURING WORK SESSION, UM, I MADE REFERENCE TO IT, BUT I DIDN'T FOLLOW UP BY WAY OF ASKING EXPLICITLY FOR IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR ITEM NUMBER 21.
I'M CURIOUS, PROCEDURALLY, IS IT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN STILL DO OR DO I NEED TO REQUEST A POSTPONEMENT FOR THAT ITEM SO THAT WE CAN APPROPRIATELY POST AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE ITEM? NO, YOU'RE, YOU CAN ASK FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON ANY ITEM THAT IS OTHERWISE POSTED ON OUR AGENDA.
SO WE'LL PULL 21 AND WE'LL CONSIDER THAT AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE'LL KNOW, 21 IS SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DISCUSS WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF COUNCILS WOULD MAKE THAT CHANGE TO THE SCRIPT.
YOU JUST WANT TO READ, LINK BACK UP INTO THE RECORDS BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
I'M SORRY, JUST REMEMBERED A LITTLE BREED LAID BACK UP INTO THE RECORD BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
WE HAVE LAID BACK UP IN ITEMS THREE, SIX, 18 2128, 49, 58, 60 62 63 66 69, 70 71 73, 74, 75, 76 AND 77.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE LAID BACK UP IN A HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION ITEM NUMBER ONE THE MINUTES.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL REMEMBER TO DO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT MEETING.
IF I FORGET IF SOMEONE WOULD TRY TO REMEMBER, THAT'D BE GREAT.
COLLEAGUES CONSENT AGENDA AGAIN, ITEMS ONE THROUGH 52 69 TO 80 POLLED ITEMS ARE 2171 72 73, 74, 75 AND 80 FURTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO TO SPEAKERS.
UM, AS FAR AS THE CALENDAR ITEM, I APOLOGIZE.
I FORGET EXACTLY WHICH NUMBER THAT IS.
UM, I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS A WAY WE COULD TWEAK SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS AFTER BUDGET BECAUSE I KNOW BUDGET IS VERY INTENSE AND, UM, AND THEN HAVING BACK-TO-BACK MEETINGS AFTER THAT CAN BE KIND OF DIFFICULT IN OUR PLANNING.
UM, SO I WANTED TO OFFER, INSTEAD OF DOING A AUGUST 30TH WORK SESSION AND SEPTEMBER 2ND MEETING TO DO A MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH WORK SESSION AND WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH MEETING.
UM, SIMILAR TO THE WAY YOU SUGGESTED IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, WHICHEVER YOUR AMENDMENT IDENTIFIED.
UM, JUST, JUST TO AVOID THOSE BACK TO BACK MEETINGS RIGHT AFTER BUDGET.
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SO YOU'D BE PROPOSING MEETINGS ON THE 13TH, 15TH AS OPPOSED TO WHAT INSTEAD OF EIGHT 30 AND NINE TO DO THE 13TH AND 15TH OF SEPTEMBER.UM, THIS YEAR, RUSSIA SHINE ON YOM KIPPOR FALL IN THOSE WEEKS OF SEPTEMBER.
I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WITH THE DATES THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, BUT I, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT, UM, ROSH HASHANAH AND YOM KIPPOR WERE PART OF THE REASON I BELIEVE THAT WE DID NOT HAVE THAT.
WE COULDN'T JUST DO EVERY OTHER WEEK IN THERE.
AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE WAS ANOTHER CONFLICT ONE OF THE OTHER WEEKS.
UM, SO I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR FOR THAT.
SO I WOULD HESITATE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO CHECK THAT LET'S PULL IT NUMBER 76.
YOU, EVERYBODY LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE STATES.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT AND FIND SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE MORE WORKABLE HER FOR THE PARTICULAR SITUATION.
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FROM SPEAKERS CLERK? ARE YOU READY TO CALL THE 18 SPEAKERS? YES, WE'RE READY, MAYOR.IF YOU WOULD CALL THE SPEAKERS, UM, I'M GOING TO BE DOING SOME STUFF TO MY PHYSICAL SPACE, SO I'M GOING TO REMOVE MY CAMERA FOR THE MOMENT.
UH, AND, BUT I WILL BE LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION.
THEY PUTTING UP HOLIDAY DECORATIONS, I GUESS.
SO, UH, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE SPEAKERS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SPEAKERS IN QUEUE.
IF YOU HAVE YET TO PRESS ZERO, PLEASE DO SO AT THIS TIME, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS JOAN ALTOBELLI.
I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR LICENSED CHILDCARE AT THE YMC OF BOSTON.
WE HAVE 11 INFANT PRESCHOOL CENTERS AND 40 AFTERSCHOOL CENTERS THAT OPERATE IN PUBLIC AND CHARTER SCHOOLS IN THE GREATER AUSTIN AREA.
EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL REPRESENTS AN AUSTIN AREA THAT HAS ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THEIR COUNCIL DISTRICTS.
A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE PARENTS WHO WORK FULL TIME JOBS AND ARE NOT ABLE TO STOP WORK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY TO PICK UP THEIR CHILDREN.
AFTER SCHOOL AT 3:00 PM, THEY REQUIRE CHILDCARE TO ENSURE THEIR CHILDREN AGES FIVE TO 12, ARE SAFE AND ENGAGED IN ENRICHING ACTIVITIES THAT BUILD THEIR MIND, SPIRIT AND BODIES IN THE HOURS AFTER SCHOOL, UNTIL THEY ARE ABLE TO PICK THEM UP AT 6:30 PM.
WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE PROPOSED FUNDING, DESIGNATED AND AGENDA ITEM 73 FOR QUALIFYING CHILDCARE CENTERS, SERVING INFANTS, OR FIVE-YEAR-OLDS ONLY WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST A SEPARATE SET OF FUNDS BE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN.
WHO'S PROGRAMMING IS PART TIME, BUT EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS FULL TIME CARE FOR CHILDREN, FIVE AND UNDER PARENTS ARE UNABLE TO WORK FULL TIME TO SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES.
IN MOST CASES, IF THEY DO NOT HAVE CARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN BY AGES FIVE TO 12, THE ALTERNATIVE TO LICENSED CARE SUCH AS LATCHKEY HOME ALONE, CHILDREN STAYING WITH FRIENDS OR RELATIVES.
STAYING WITH ELDERLY GRANDPARENTS ARE POSSIBLY UNSAFE AND POSE OTHER RISKS TO THE HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHILDREN.
A RECENT LARGE STUDY AT YALE RESEARCHED THE CONSCIENTIOUS PROVISION OF KOBE PRECAUTIONS IN DAYCARE CENTERS AND HAS PROVEN THE PRACTICES TO BE EFFECTIVE IN MINIMIZING THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS.
IN OUR SETTING, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE BEEN PROVIDING THE SERVICE IT'S MARCH, 2020 THROUGH THE CURRENT DATE NOW NEED FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO SAY OUR ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES, PLEASE CONSIDER SUPPORTING THE SCHOOL AGE, CHILDREN AS WELL, THAT ARE IN THE CITY.
VOTE ON THE UNDER FIVE CHILDCARE FUNDING.
IN THE TIMES WE HAD EXTENDED CARE.
YMCA BRANCH SERVED 4,000 QUEST SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN IN LICENSED CARE.
AND WE HAVE BEEN DEVASTATINGLY EFFECTIVE FINANCIALLY, JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE SERVICES AT AN AFFORDABLE COST TO PARENTS WITH EXPENSIVE COVID PRECAUTIONS IN PLACE.
THERE ARE MANY OTHER PROVIDERS IN THE CITY THAT ALSO SERVE AFTER SCHOOLERS AT SCHOOL AGE, CHILDREN THAT HAVE BEEN FINANCIALLY IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC ON VARIOUS FRONTS.
AND PLEASE CONSIDER A SEPARATE POT OF FUNDING FOR AFTER SCHOOL, SCHOOL, AGE CHILDCARE IN YOUR FUNDING GRANTS.
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CARLOS LEON.SO AT CARLOS LELAND FIRST AND FOREMOST, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THE DEAL IS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK AGAINST ITEM 79.
YOUR RESOLUTION BLATANTLY CONTRADICTS ITSELF.
YOU CLAIM RUTH BADER GINSBURG'S JURISPRUDENCE HAD MORAL PURPOSE, EMBODYING JEWISH VALUES OF REPAIRING THE WORLD, BUT SHE BELIEVED ACCESS TO ABORTION WAS ESSENTIAL TO EACH PERSON'S AUTONOMY TO DETERMINE THEIR LIFE'S COURSE THAT'S UPSIDE DOWN AND INSANE.
GINSBURG'S PREMEDITATED SUPREME COURT VOTE FOR ROE V.
WADE WAS IMMORAL TOWARD DESTROYING THE WORLD BECAUSE EACH AND EVERY ABORTION MURDERED A PERSON BEFORE HE OR SHE COULD BE BORN SAY, TECHNICALLY DENYING THAT PERSON'S RIGHT TO LIFE.
THE MOST IMPORTANT GOD GIVEN, RIGHT? BEGINNING OF CONCEPTION, EACH ABORTED HUMAN BEING HAD NO CHOICE, NO AUTONOMY THOUGH.
THE HOLOCAUST ALLEGEDLY KILLED 6 MILLION JEWS.
GINSBURG'S PRO-ABORTION STANCE FACILITATED THE LEGAL GENOCIDE OF MORE THAN 60 MILLION AMERICAN LIVES SINCE 1973.
SO YOU CLAIM HER LIFE'S WORK FOCUSED ON REDUCING DISCRIMINATION.
ABOUT 20 MILLION OF THOSE ABORTIONS HAVE BEEN BLACK DISPROPORTIONATELY ENDING BLACK PEOPLE BEFORE BIRTH.
IN FACT, IN A 2009 NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE ARTICLE GINSBURG SAID, QUOTE, FRANKLY, I HAD THOUGHT THAT AT THE TIME ROE WAS DECIDED THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT POPULATION GROWTH AND PARTICULARLY GROWTH IN POPULATIONS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE TOO MANY OF END QUOTE, SOUNDS LIKE MANY BLACK LIVES NEVER MATTERED TO GINSBURG SAYING DON'T PRESENT TENSE INSTEAD OF DIDN'T PASS TENTS.
36 YEARS LATER, AND USING PASSIVE VOICE WAS DECIDED TO DISTANCE HERSELF EX POST FACTO FROM HER ACTIVE ROLE, DECIDING ROE V.
WADE TO NOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HER REPRODUCTIVE VIOLENCE AGAINST THE MOST INNOCENT BLACK HUMANITY WHO NEVER SAW THE LIGHT OF DAY.
AND WHO IS THE WE, SHE WAS REFERRING TO WHO STILL DON'T WANT TOO MANY OF WHOM WAS SHE TACITLY REFERRING TO ELITIST EUGENIC KILL PLANS TO ZOOS ABORTION AGAINST NON ELITES FROM THE START THOUGH, YOU WANT TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT THE RIGHT TO AN ABORTION THAT GINSBURG HELPED CREATE IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE EXISTED BECAUSE IT'S WRONG.
ALL THAT MURDERED HUMAN LIFE DESERVED THE CHANCE TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE OUTSIDE THE WOOL.
THEREFORE INSTEAD OF HONORING GINSBURG'S UNNATURAL LIFE RECOGNIZE RBGS NATURAL DEATH CLEARING THE WAY FOR ACB.
JOIN THE SUPREME COURT AND RIGHT WRONG BY OVERTURNING ROE V.
WADE, WHICH CANNOT HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH IN JESUS NAME.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CONSTITUTIONAL LAW TRUTH AND ABOVE ALL COMO CMPD.
GOD'S WORD TRUMP 2020 COLTON FERAL.
HELLO, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
I AM THE CENTRAL TEXAS COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD, DETECTIVES VOTES.
AND I AM HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE RESOLUTION HONOR AND JUSTICE GINSBURG.
I WAS DEVASTATED TO HEAR OF JUSTICE GINSBURG.
SHE WAS NOT ONLY A GIANT IN THE FIELD OF CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
SHE ALSO INSPIRED ME TO BECOME A COMMUNITY ADVOCATE THAT I AM TODAY.
HER TIRELESS EFFORTS TO EXPAND THE FOUNDING IDEALS OF EQUALITY AND JUSTICE SERVED AS A CONSTANT SOURCE OF INSPIRATION.
FOR ME, HER SUPPORT OF WOMEN'S EQUALITY AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS MOTIVATED ME TO BECOME MORE INVOLVED IN A MOVEMENT MYSELF.
AND IN RECENT YEARS, HER FIERY DEFENSE GAVE ME BOTH COURAGE AND HOPE JUSTICE.
RUTH BADER GINSBURG WAS A FIERCE FIGHTER FOR GENDER EQUALITY, LGBTQ PLUS PEOPLE, IMMIGRANTS, ABORTION RIGHTS AND HEALTHCARE FOR ALL PER SEAT IS THE PEOPLE SEAT.
AND THEIR VOICES MUST BE HEARD.
THIS VACANCY CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT BE FILLED BEFORE THE 2021 INAUGURATION.
SHE WAS A CHAMPION FOR EQUAL RIGHTS AND SHE COMMITTED HER LIFE TO PROTECTING RIGHTS, FREEDOM, AND HELP THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THIS SUPREME COURT APPOINTMENT, IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT JUSTICE JUSTICE FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED SEXUAL AND REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE JUSTICE.
FOR THE MORE THAN 200,000 WHO HAVE DIED FROM COVID-19 JUSTICE FOR BRIANNA TAYLOR JUSTICE, FOR THE PEOPLE AND FAMILIES WHO ARE REELING FROM THE ECONOMIC CRISIS.
JUSTICE GINSBURG LEGACY IS A LEGACY OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I'M CALLING ON THE SENATE TO NOT CONSIDER ANY NOMINEE
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TO REPLACE JUSTICE CONFER UNTIL AFTER INAUGURATION IT'S RUSHED.BLATANTLY PARTISAN PROCESS IS AN INSULT TO THE LEGACY OF JUSTICE GINSBURG.
THE DIGNITY OF THE NATION'S HIGHEST COURT AND OUR DEMOCRACY.
AGAIN, THERE SHOULD BE NO CONFIRMATION UNTIL AFTER INAUGURATION.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MAYOR PRO TEM, DALIA GARBERVILLE, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, HARPER, MADISON PLAN AGAIN, AND PIXAR FOR THEIR LEADERSHIP ON THIS RESOLUTION.
I WANTED TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
I THINK THE ENTIRE DIOCESE NOW SPONSORING THIS ITEM, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THE NOTORIOUS RBG DID.
UM, UM, CAN YOU SHOW US THAT MUG? THERE WE GO.
AND THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR BRAIN, THIS RESOLUTION IN THE FIRST PLACE, AND I'M HAPPY TO BE AN OFFICIAL CO-SPONSOR OF IT.
I WANT TO SECOND THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW US ALL AS CO-SPONSORS OF THIS ONE.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEARTS.
AND, UM, I WAS GOING TO SAY, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND WE ALREADY ADDED EVERYBODY.
IT HAD EVERYBODY, BUT YOU, I THINK SO THE RECORD SHOULD REFLECT THAT EVERYBODY HAS THAT AS A COSPONSOR TO ITEM NUMBER 70.
LAUREN GOLD COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR ADLER.
UH, JUST THEN FOR SUPPORTING, UH, THAT RESOLUTION FOR AN, A NOTORIOUS RBG.
UM, BUT UH, I AM CALLING IN FOR A DIFFERENT REASON.
I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THIS TOWN AS A FULL TIME PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN FOR 16 YEARS.
UH, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, I WAS PERFORMING FIVE TO SEVEN NIGHTS A WEEK AND AUSTIN AND I DRIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF MY INCOME FROM LIVE MUSIC PERFORMANCE.
AS OF TODAY, I HAVEN'T PLAYED A PUBLIC GIG FOR NEARLY SEVEN MONTHS.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THIS SENSE OF URGENCY.
I FEEL WHEN IT COMES TO SAVING OUR CREATIVE CULTURE AND THE PLACES THAT HOSTS THAT CULTURE AND MINE IS JUST ONE STORY OF MANY.
I DON'T HAVE TO CONVINCE YOU ALL OF THE FACT THAT THIS CULTURE IS WHAT DEFINES AUSTIN.
THE FACT THAT YOU COULD HEAR TOP NOTCH, LIVE MUSIC OF ALMOST ANY STYLE ANY NIGHT OF THE WEEK, ENJOY DELICIOUS THE WORD WINNING MEALS AT ANY NUMBER OF OUR GREAT RESTAURANTS TAKE IN THE BEAUTY OF NATURE IN THE MIDST OF AN URBAN SETTING.
THESE ARE THE REASONS PEOPLE FLOCK TO OUR CITY.
THE PANDEMIC HAS TAKEN PROBLEMS THAT NEEDED ADDRESSING BEFORE AND MAGNIFIES THEM EXPONENTIALLY.
SO ALTHOUGH WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE FUNDS PROMISED BY THE STATE'S RESIDENCE RESOLUTION, WE NEED A PLAN THAT DOESN'T JUST STAUNCH THE WOUND, BUT THAT WILL ACTUALLY SUSTAIN OUR INDUSTRY LONG TERM.
UM, THE VISITORS THAT ARE FUND PROPOSED AN ITEM 80, COULD ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE SUSTAINING SUPPORT OUR INDUSTRY SO DESPERATELY NEEDS THE SMART PLAN.
AND IT MAKES RIGHTFUL USE OF THE PERCENTAGE OF A PERCENTAGE OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, WHICH IS FUELED BY THE WORK OF AUSTIN'S VITAL MUSIC, FOOD AND ARTS COMMUNITY.
THOSE FUNDS SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE REINVESTED IN THE INDUSTRY THAT BUILT THEM UP IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR A VIBRANT POST PANDEMIC AUSTIN THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO DRAW VISITORS AND KEEP OUR ECONOMY FLOURISHING FOR YEARS TO COME.
I TOOK THE LIBERTY OF CREATING A PETITION TO GARNER SUPPORT FOR THIS ISSUE.
AND LET ME REFRESH AND CHECK TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THE UPDATED NUMBERS.
AND WITH JUST A QUICK SCRAPPY SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN, IT GENERATED 202 SIGNATURES IN LESS THAN 36 HOURS.
YOU'LL ALL FIND A LINK TO THIS PETITION IN YOUR INBOX.
SO YOU CAN CHECK BACK AND SEE HOW MANY SIGNATURES WERE ADDED SINCE MY LAST COUNT.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A GOOD DEAL OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THIS MEASURE.
THE 5 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR VENUES AND THE 5 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR LEGACY BUSINESSES THAT FACE RESOLUTION WILL NOT BE NEARLY ENOUGH TO KEEP OUR ENDANGERED INDUSTRY FROM EVAPORATING.
THE PROCESS, THE SEED FUNDING PROVOKE PROMOTE PROPOSED IN ITEM 80 WOULD NOT JUST BE AKIN TO PUTTING A BANDAID ON THIS DEEP WOUND, BUT WE'LL HELP THESE BUSINESSES START TO HEAL AND BECOME STRONGER OVER TIME.
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TOWN USA.EMELINA SOMEBODY
I AM HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE VISION PLAN FOR JOHN PRIVY IN YOUR PARK AT MORRISON RANCH ITEM NUMBER 23.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WHOLE HEARTED SUPPORT OF THE PARK.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO MY RIPA JOHN TRIVINIA WAS MY UNCLE.
THIS PARK IS A TRIBUTE TO HIS LIFELONG RECORD OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
THIS PARK WILL BE ENJOYED BY MANY, BUT ESPECIALLY THOSE WITH LIMITED ACCESS TO RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.
SO WE HAVE A GOOD FORTUNE OF HAVING WORKED WITH CHARLES MAYBERRY PARTS, PROJECT MANAGER AND DAVID MALDA GGN PRINCIPLE.
WE FOUND THEM AND THEIR STAFF EASY TO WORK WITH.
THEY CREATED A PLAN TO REFLECT SUGGESTIONS AND EMBRACES THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE PARK 320 ACRES IS A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, ABOUT A THIRD OF IT IS PRONE TO FLOODING AND I BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO WHAT IS BEING CALLED AT VENTURE PLAY.
THIS IS SO NAMED BECAUSE OBJECTIONS TO HAVING A BMX SKATE FACILITY ON THE PREMISES, HAVING A LARGE BLOCK OR CONCRETE RUNS CONTRARY TO THE PARTS PRIOR TO MAINTAIN ITS NATURAL BEAUTY.
I ASKED YOU INSTEAD YOU CONSIDER A BASKETBALL COURT TENNIS COURT OR A FIELD FOR BASEBALL OR SOCCER SPORTS THAT APPEAL TO THOSE UNABLE TO AFFORD EXPENSIVE GEAR, AS OPPOSED TO LEAVING IT OPEN FOR A FEATURE BMX SKATE AND FACILITY.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THE GATES TO JONATHAN, TO BE IN YOUR PARK OPEN FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY, AND I CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR THAT TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS PARK FOR THE RESOLUTION FOR JUSTICE GINSBERG AND FOR THE GOOD, UH, THE HEALTHY STREETS PROGRAM.
MY NAME IS JOHN POINTER, 11 TIME AUSTIN MUSIC AWARD WINNER, UH, INTERNATIONAL TOURING ARTISTS AND POTENTIALLY ENDANGERED SPECIES.
UM, AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED, ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE PETITION THAT WENT AROUND.
THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
UM, BUT I WOULD GLADLY ADD MY NAME TO THAT LIST.
SO WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS 220, WE'LL CALL IT 221.
NOW I'M SPEAKING OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 80 AND WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE YES.
UH, WE'VE BEEN, OUR VENUES HAVE BEEN IN ON THE VERGE OF A CRISIS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UH, BECAUSE AS THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVEN'T PUT A WHOLE LOT OF CAPITAL INTO THE LIVE MUSIC AND THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SOLVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, IN ONE WAY FROM THE CITY SIDE, WITH THIS, UH, VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER, SORT OF A MOVE.
SO I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THAT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE LOST, THREADGILL'S, WE'VE LOST SHADY GROVE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT LOSING A LOT MORE.
SO AS, UH, AS THE OTHER SPEAKER MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST STAUNCH THE BLEEDING.
IF YOU THINK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THREADGILL'S.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF ARTISTS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH AUSTIN, LIKE ME WHO MAKE OUR LIVING FULL TIME, TRAVELING THE WORLD AS CULTURAL AMBASSADORS OF THE CITY.
AND WE ALL STARTED IN PLACES LIKE FRED GILL'S.
UM, THE REASON THAT AUSTIN MUSICIANS ARE KNOWN THE WORLD OVER IS THAT AUSTIN IS LIKE A GREAT GYM FOR WORKING OUT.
WE BUILD OUR STRENGTH HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PLAY WELL ENOUGH TO PULL PEOPLE IN FROM CEDAR PARK OR BELT IN OR ELGON OR BASTROP TO COME SEE US DOWNTOWN STRUGGLE AGAINST PARKING, AND THEN STILL PUT ON A SHOW THAT THEY'LL FEEL LIKE THEY GOT MORE THAN THEY ANTICIPATED WHEN WE LAND ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.
WE TAKE THAT STRENGTH WITH US AND IN A PLACE LIKE NEW YORK, FOR INSTANCE, THERE ARE 10,000 PEOPLE WITHIN A BLOCK.
THEY FLOCK TO THE SHOW BECAUSE WE'VE LEARNED TO PULL PEOPLE FROM MILES AND MILES AWAY, BUT WITHOUT THE VENUES FOR US TO BUILD THAT SKILLSET, AUSTIN STANDS TO LOSE AN ESSENTIAL SYSTEM.
AND SO I THINK THAT ITEM 80 IS A, IS A GREAT STEP FOR GETTING THE CITY INVOLVED AND PUTTING SOME CAPITAL INTO THE LIVE MUSIC HERE IN THE LIVE MUSIC CAPITAL.
SO I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE CO-SPONSORS AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL THE REST OF YOU TO CONSIDER JUMPING ON THAT AS WELL, BUT AT LEAST A VOTING.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP.HI, I'M KATIE CAM, LONGTERM RESIDENT OF AUSTIN, AND CURRENTLY A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE.
AND SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF ITEM 80, THE RESOLUTION TO ESTABLISH A VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER FUND TO SUPPORT LOCAL ICONIC VENUES.
THANK YOU TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, KITCHEN FOOLS, AND ALSO FOR BRINGING THIS RESOLUTION TO THE COUNCIL.
I AND OTHERS ENCOURAGED CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY TO USE HOTEL TAX REVENUE, TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL PLACES AND PEOPLE THAT CREATE AUSTIN'S CULTURE THAT IS ATTRACTIVE TO VISITORS AND RESIDENTS LIKE THIS RESOLUTION SHOWS THAT COUNCIL IS LISTENING.
THIS RESOLUTION IS A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND SHOWING THAT COUNCIL IS THINKING CREATIVELY TO SUPPORT THE CREATIVE ECONOMY OF AUSTIN THAT ATTRACTS VISITORS TO AUSTIN.
PLEASE APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AND TAKE THIS INITIATIVE FURTHER BY CANCELING THE CONVENTION CENTER EXPANSION ALTOGETHER, THE HOTEL TAX REVENUE NEEDS TO BE INVESTED IN THE PEOPLE, PLACES AND PROGRAMS THAT MAKE AUSTIN UNIQUE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, I WOULD GO DANCING AT THE PLACES WITHIN THE RESOLUTION THAT DOES WHITE HORSE CONTINENTAL CLUB AND BROKEN SPOKE.
I WOULD MEET PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN AT THOSE PLACES, AND IT WAS OBVIOUS.
THEY ENJOYED EXPERIENCING THE LOCAL MUSIC SCENE, LISTENING TO MUSICIANS, WATCHING DANCERS AND DANCING WITH LOCALS.
THOSE PLACES ARE MUCH MORE MEMORABLE THAN THE HALLS OF THE CENTER.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AUSTIN DOES NOT NEED CONVENTION BUSINESS FOR THE TOURISM ECONOMY.
I CONVENTION CENTERS ARE BORN INVESTMENT.
PLEASE CONTINUE TO APPROACH OF CREATIVELY THINKING ABOUT HOW TO SUPPORT AUSTIN'S CULTURE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE TEXAS TAX CODE BY REDIRECTING HOTEL TAX REVENUE FROM EXPANSIONS OF THE STERILE BUILDING TO THE VIBRANT PLACES IN TOWN.
SO PEOPLE OF AUSTIN, THANK YOU, STEPHANIE TREVINO.
MY GRANDDAUGHTER IS THE LATE JOHN
I'M CALLING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 23, THAT JOHN DEVINO METROPOLITAN PARK MASTER PLAN OVER THE PAST YEAR, MY FAMILY AND I HAVE ADVOCATED FOR A MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS THE COMMUNITY'S WANTS AND NEEDS AS WELL AS HONOR.
THE LEGACY OF MY GRANDFATHER FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW MY GRANDFATHER PERSONALLY, HE WAS ALL ABOUT FAMILY FIRST DURING HIS PASSING, HE WRECKED ME WITH A FEW TASKS.
ONE OF THESE TASKS WAS NOT ONLY TO ENSURE THE PARK WAS DEVELOPED, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT HIS GRANDCHILDREN'S CHILDREN WOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY.
WE ALSO WANTED IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE COULD GATHER, ENJOY NATURE, AND GO FISHING AS HE DID WHEN HE WAS GROWING UP.
IT IS MY FAMILY'S HOPE THAT THE CITY MANAGER, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR, AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS CONTINUE TO WORK WITH A THIRD FAMILY TO CONTINUE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PARK IS DEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING GREAT.
ON BEHALF OF IT, THE THREE, THE ENTIRE ANNUAL FAMILY, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED OVER THE YEARS TO MAKE THIS DREAM A REALITY, ESPECIALLY OUR COUSIN, JOHNNY LEE WARREN, WHO WAS NOT ABLE TO BE WITH US TODAY, AND HONOR, WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN MY GRANDFATHER'S 82ND BIRTHDAY THIS SUNDAY, HE ASKED THAT YOU PASS AND APPROVED THE MASTER PART PLAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, ADAM ORMAN.
HELLO, AND THANK YOU AS ALWAYS FOR MAKING THE TIME TO HEAR FROM US.
AUSTIN SPOKE AS A GROUP YESTERDAY, SO YOU'LL ONLY BE HEARING FROM ME TODAY REPRESENTING SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE OVER 40 BUSINESSES WHO HAD INPUT ON THIS WEEK, THE ITEMS ON, UH, THE CAREGIVERS, UH, AISD CAREGIVERS PROGRAM AND EAT INITIATIVE ITEMS 77 AND 78, PLEASE VOTE.
ON BOTH OF THESE ITEMS, THEY HAVE CREATED AT LEAST, UH, 20 JOBS FOR RESTAURANTS THAT ARE SERVICING.
UH, AND THAT IS, THAT WILL END UP BEING, UM, APPROXIMATELY NINE RESTAURANTS.
UM, DEPENDING ON THE SCALE OF THE, UH, OF THE PROGRAMS WEEKS, A WEEK, 180 JOBS CREATED FROM JUST THESE TWO FOOD ACCESS PROGRAMS ALONE, UH, THEY'VE FED AUSTIN'S MOST IN NEED COMMUNITIES AND PROVIDED SUPPORT TO LOCAL FARMS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PREVIOUS SUPPORT.
AND PLEASE EXTEND, UH, EXTEND THE CAREGIVERS PROGRAM TO SEVEN MEALS A WEEK.
UM, AND, UH, AND THANK YOU FOR BEGINNING THE EAT INITIATIVE AND AWARDING IT TO LOCAL BUSINESSES ON ITEMS 75 AND 80.
WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL PRIORITIZE HISTORIC BARS, RESTAURANTS, AND VENUES THAT HAVE NOT RECEIVED PRIOR AID AT ANY LEVEL THAT ARE MOST IN NEED.
AND THAT ARE MINORITY OWNED TO RECEIVE THE LEGACY GRANT AND SERVE AS VISITOR INFORMATION CENTERS.
WE CAN LOCATE ESTABLISHMENT OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN
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AS VISITORS OFTEN NOW STAY IN LARGE NUMBERS AS FAR NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST.THESE SMALL STEPS ARE LIFELINES FOR INDEPENDENT OPERATORS.
THEY ARE NOT THE TREMENDOUS SHORT TERM ASSISTANCE THAT THEY NEED UNTIL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STEPS IN.
UH, SO FOR NOW WE NEED TO TARGET AND HELP WHERE WE CAN AND MAKE THOSE DOLLARS GO AS FAR AS THEY CAN, UM, UNTIL WE CAN LOCATE, UH, MORE RESOURCES AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
UM, I GUESS IT'S EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER NOW, UH, FOR INTRODUCING ITEM 80, UH, THERE ARE A FEW JEWISH AMERICAN HEROES WHO ARE OPEN ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THEIR FAITH AND THEIR SERVICE, THEIR ROLE IN SOCIETY AS JUSTICE GINSBURG OF LESS THAN MEMORY.
I THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING HER UNIQUE PLACE IN OUR HISTORY AFTER DAYS, CHARLES ROEKEL THE BIRD RESOLUTION IS ACTUALLY ITEM 79.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE DURING THESE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TIMES, I CALLED TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF ITEM 23, THE VISION PLAN FOR JOHN DEVINO JUNIOR METROPOLITAN PARK, CHARLES MAYBERRY, DAVID MILDER, AND THEIR RESPECTIVE TEAMS DESERVE THE HIGHEST PRAISE FOR THEIR EXEMPLARY WORK AND LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND CREATING A VISION PLAN THAT MAKES THE MOST OF THIS UNIQUELY BEAUTIFUL SITE.
I'M ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE VISION PLAN AND THE PROPOSED PHASES FOR DEVELOPING THE PART PLAN INCLUDES PRECISELY THE KINDS OF FEATURES FOR FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY.
MR.
I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THE VISION PLANNING ELIMINATES THE SKATE AND BIKE SKILLS FACILITY THAT HAD APPEARED IN EARLIER VERSIONS.
THE SKATE AND BIKE FACILITY WAS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE NATURAL BEAUTY AND FAMILY ORIENTATION OF THE SITE, AND SUCH A FACILITY WOULD HAVE CONSUMED UNNECESSARILY PART OF THE LIMITED SPACE AND THE RAVINE AREA THAT LIES ABOVE THE PARK'S FLOOD, PLAIN, A UNIQUE FEATURE OF THE PLAN I ESPECIALLY LIKE IS A COMMUNITY'S WALK.
THE ONE MILE LOOP CAN PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT INFORMATION ABOUT JOHN FOR THE VIDEO, SO THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS WILL UNDERSTAND HIS EXTRAORDINARY IMPORTANCE IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY.
BEFORE I CONCLUDE, I DO WANT TO BRING TO YOUR INTENTION, THE UNSUNG HEROINE OF THIS VENTURE WHILE LITERALLY ON HIS DEATH BED, MR. COULD HAVE BEEN HEALED, TURNED TO HIS KNEES, CRUMBLED INTO SOMEBODY'S BUTT AND SAID, THE PARK IS IN YOUR HANDS.
IT WASN'T FACT AIR MELINDA, WHO HAD WORKED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER OF OUR OFFICE 11 YEARS BEFORE TO HAVE THE MARCH AND RANCH TRACK NAMED IN HONOR OF JOHN
MY NAME WHO WORKED, YOU FIND SERVICES, SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR THE MASTER PLAN.
AND AFTER MR
THIRD DINO'S CONFIDENCE WAS PLACED IN THE RIGHT HANDS.
ARE YOU READY TO APPROVE THE PART'S VISION PLAN IF YOU DO IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, AUSTINITES CAN BEGIN ENJOYING THE UNIQUE BEAUTY AND SPLENDOR OF A VERY SPECIAL PLACE NAMED IN HONOR OF A VERY SPECIAL MAN IN DOING SO.
OF COURSE THEY WILL BE UNAWARE OF THE ENORMOUS DEBT OF GRATITUDE THAT YODA EMELYN
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY TAKING HER.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY HI, GOOD MORNING.
I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT THE NEXT SPEAKER.
I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER FOR RECOGNIZING THE ROLE OF, UM, MR. TREVINO'S NIECE.
THAT WAS REALLY JUST BEAUTIFULLY SAID.
AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THOSE OF US WHO MAY BE LESS AWARE OF THE IMPORTANT ROLE THAT YOU'VE PLAYED, UM, AWARE OF, OF HOW IMPORTANT OUR STEWARDSHIP OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, SO GOOD MORNING, LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS URSULA TICKNER AND I'M A POLICY AND ADVOCACY STRATEGIST FOR THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION OF TEXAS.
AND I AM CALLING TODAY TO SUPPORT ITEM 79, THE RESOLUTION HONORING JUSTICE, RUTH BADER GINSBURG.
UM, I FIRST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE OVERWHELMING SUPPORT WE'VE HAD FROM COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.
UM, AND FOR CREATING THE SPACE TO HONOR JUSTICE GINSBURG AND HER LEGACY, WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
UM, JUSTICE GINSBURG WAS, UH, A HERO FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND FOR SO MANY OTHERS AND THAT'S TRULY LEFT THIS COUNTRY AND THE CITY CHANGED BECAUSE OF HER LIFE'S WORK, YOU KNOW, AT THE ACLU, OUR MISSION IS TO PROTECT, DEFEND, AND EXPAND CIVIL LIBERTIES FOR EVERY PERSON.
AND THERE'S REALLY NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF THE PURSUIT OF THAT MISSION THAN IN THE LIFE OF RUTH BADER GINSBURG.
SHE BEGAN HER CAREER AT HARVARD LAW SCHOOL AS A YOUNG MOTHER AND ONE
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OF ONLY NINE WOMEN IN HER CLASS AND GREW TO BECOME THE ARCHITECT OF A LEGAL STRATEGY TO ERADICATE GENDER DISCRIMINATION IN THE LAW IN THE UNITED STATES AND FOUNDING THE WOMEN'S RIGHTS PROJECT AT THE ACLU ALONG THE WAY.UM, IT'S NOT AN OVERSTATEMENT TO SAY THAT THE WORLD, AS WE KNOW IT NOW WOULD BE VERY DIFFERENT WITHOUT RUTH BADER GINSBURG IN IT, FOR ME PERSONALLY, AS A FIGHTER FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS IN TEXAS, SHE HAS BEEN A GUIDING STAR FOR MANY YEARS.
SHE NEVER SHIED AWAY FROM HOW IMPORTANT ACCESS TO ABORTION IS IN THE FIGHT FOR EQUALITY AND DECLARING ONCE THAT THE LEGAL FIGHT FOR ABORTION ACCESS ISN'T ABOUT SOME GENERALIZED NOTION OF PRIVACY, BUT IT'S REALLY RATHER THEY CENTER ON A WOMAN'S AUTONOMY TO DETERMINE HER LIFE'S COURSE AND LET'S ENJOY EQUAL CITIZENSHIP STATURE AND OUR COUNTRY.
WHILE THE LINK BETWEEN EQUALITY AND ACCESS TO BASIC HEALTHCARE MAY SEEM OBVIOUS TO SOME JUSTICE GINSBURG KNACK FOR GETTING STRAIGHT TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER.
I BELIEVE MADE THAT POINT A LITTLE CLEARER FOR ANYMORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IN CLOSING, I WANT TO KEEP THIS BRIEF, BUT IN CLOSING, I LEAVE YOU WITH A QUOTE FROM HER OF HERS THAT HAS BECOME A REAL MANTRA OF MINE.
THAT REAL CHANGE AND DURING CHANGE HAPPENS ONE STEP AT A TIME.
AND TODAY I ASK THAT THE CITY OF AUSTIN TAKE THAT NEXT RIGHT STEP AND PASS THIS RESOLUTION TO HONOR HER LEGACY THROUGH ACTION.
HI, GOOD MORNING, ADLER MAYOR PRO TEM AND ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS HAPPY HARNISH OWNER, DIRECTOR OF BRIGHT BEGINNINGS CHARACTERS' CENTER IN NORTH AUSTIN.
I'VE BEEN IN LOFT AND GETTING BUSINESS IN AUSTIN FOR 16 YEARS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART FOR CREATING A CHILDCARE RELIEF GRANT WITH THE RMC RESOLUTION, PLEASE SUPPORT ITEM 73 TO LAUNCH THIS FUND.
THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME IN MY PROGRAM AND THE NORTH AUSTIN COMMUNITY.
UM, BRIGHT BEGINNINGS IS A FOREST START PRS CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER.
WE ARE ALSO UNITED WAYS, SIX X BY SIX AISD PRE K PARTNER.
WE ARE LOCATED IN NORTH AUSTIN.
WE ARE SITUATED BETWEEN ROSENBERG AND BROOKLYN.
WE ALSO PROVIDE CHILDCARE FOR WORKFORCE SOLUTION, SALVATION ARMY ACC BRIDGE YMCAS PROGRAM, CRIME VICTIMS. UM, AND OUR SCHOOL DEMOGRAPHICS CONSISTS OF 65% BLACK, 30% HISPANIC AND 5% WHITE.
WE'VE BEEN OPEN DURING THIS WHOLE COVID, UM, EPISODE TAKING CARE OF CHILDREN DURING THESE DIFFICULT TIMES, BUT WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT THAT NURTURES THE WHOLE CHILD.
OUR ORGANIZATION TAKES PRIDE IN PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY CHILDCARE THAT FOCUSES ON CHALLENGING AND STIMULATING THE INTELLECT OF A LOWER SOCIO ECONOMIC CHILDREN OF NORTH AUSTIN.
WE RECOGNIZE EARLY CHILDHOOD SETTINGS IS A CHILD'S FIRST COMMUNITY OR ENVIRONMENT OF RELATIONSHIPS, RELATIONSHIPS OUTSIDE OF THE HOME.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO CREATING AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE CHILDREN EXPERIENCED MORE LOVING AND STABLE RELATIONSHIPS, HOPEFULLY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE SPEAKERS HERE.
JUST TALKING TO THE WAY COUNSELOR,
[Consent Agenda (Part 1 of 2)]
DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? I DO NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT.THAT'S OUR POOL TOO, WHICH IS ITEMS ONE THROUGH 52 69 THROUGH 80 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PULLED ITEMS, WHICH ARE 2171 72, 73, 74, 75, 76 AND 80.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE, UH, COLD AGENDA OR LIKE KIDS SAID THE AGENDA THAT'S OVER FLATTING IT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE OF ITEM 35.
UM, IT'S ANOTHER CONTRACT THAT, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT IN PRIOR COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHERE WE WANT TO TRY AND DESIGN OUR CONTRACTING PROCESS TO, UH, ALLOW FOR SMALLER AND MORE DIVERSE VENDORS TO PARTICIPATE AS PRIME CONTRACTORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE HISPANIC CONTRACTORS ASSOCIATION AND A FEW OTHER FOLKS.
I THINK WE'RE FINE WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD NOW, BUT, UM, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO JOIN WITH THE, IN AN EFFORT TO CONTINUE OUR FOCUS ON THAT.
WE DID SOME GOOD WORK HOUSE NUMBER TOVO AND I, AND A FEW OTHERS DID SOME GOOD WORK ON INSOURCING VERSUS OUTSOURCING.
AND, AND I THINK THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL GOOD WORK TO BE DONE HERE ON ENSURING OUR CONTRACTING PROCESSES, UH,
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AFFORD ENOUGH OPPORTUNITY FOR SMALLER VENDORS.ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA HEARING NONE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE WORK THAT WENT INTO ITEMS 19 AND 20, WHICH ARE PURCHASING CONSERVATION EASEMENTS FOR 560.5 ACRES IN THE BARTON SPRINGS RECHARGE ZONE.
UM, THIS FUNDING COMES FROM THE BONDS THAT WERE APPROVED IN 2018 AND IS AN IMPORTANT STEP FOR US TO PRESERVE OUR WATER QUALITY, UM, FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
SO I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THE NATURE CONSERVANCY FOR CONTINUING TO FIND WAYS FOR US TO, UM, LEVERAGE THESE FUNDS TO MAKE REALLY IMPORTANT DIFFERENCES FOR OUR WATER QUALITY.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO ASK HERE TODAY, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN CONNECTING WITH OUR STUFF ON PROGRAMS SUCH AS 29.
I THINK OUR YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM IS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROGRAM AND ONE THAT WE DO IN COLLABORATION WITH TRAVIS COUNTY, WE'RE POSTED HERE TODAY TO RATIFY THE INTER LOCAL AGREEMENT, BUT IT OCCURRED TO ME WHEN I SAW THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
I'M NOT CLEAR ON WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE PROGRAMS THIS SUMMER AND WHETHER, UM, IN, IN REALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE KIND OF IN PERSON OPPORTUNITIES WHERE OUR USERS THAT WE TYPICALLY DO.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT I HOPE OUR STAFF CAN SERVE.
UM, AND PERHAPS IT'S APPROPRIATE TO LET ALL OF THE COUNCIL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO SOME OF THOSE PROGRAMS THAT REALLY RELY ON IN PERSON CONTRACT CONTACT, UM, WHETHER THERE WERE SAVINGS IN THOSE PROGRAMS AS A RESULT OF MORE LIMITED ACTIVITIES.
AND IF SO, HOW CAN WE POTENTIALLY LOOK TOWARD USING THOSE, USING THAT SAVINGS THIS YEAR TO PROVIDE, UM, OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTH MAYBE IN ADVANCE OF NEXT SUMMER AS WELL? SO JUST, JUST PUTTING A SPOTLIGHT ON THAT ISSUE AND A REQUEST THAT STAFF, UM, EITHER PROVIDE MY OFFICE WITH THAT INFORMATION OR POTENTIALLY THE WHOLE COUNCIL, IF THERE'S BROADER INTERESTS, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK ON THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ARE THEY RIGHT? KATHY MAYOR? UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION, OUR CODE DEPARTMENT, AS IT RELATES TO 50, I HAD SORT OF A RAISE THIS QUESTION ON TUESDAY, BUT DIDN'T ASK IT DIRECTLY AND THEN DIDN'T ASK IT IN THE Q AND A.
SO I JUST NEED TO ASK IT HERE OF OUR, OF OUR DIRECTOR.
UM, CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US UNDERSTAND THE HOURS OF OUR CODE OFFICERS CURRENTLY? I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE ONE MINUTE FOR OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR MOVED ON.
WELL, WE PULL OVER THE SPEAKER, UM, OR THE STAFF MEMBER.
WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER WHO WAS TRYING TO GET OKAY.
WHILE WE'RE PULLING THAT PERSON OVER.
WHY DON'T YOU RECOGNIZE THAT SPEAKER TO SPEAK? OKAY.
UH, YEAH, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
YEAH, THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT ORIGINAL FOR THE, UH, WELL, THEY ALSO GO, WE GOT EXTENDED AND EXTENDED TEAM AWARDS ON THE EIGHT O'CLOCK NINE
THEY USUALLY WORK LATE HOURS SOMETIMES DON'T BILL 10:00 PM OR 11:00 PM WEEKENDS, UH, RECENTLY BECAUSE OF THEIR COVID-19 RESPONSE.
WE BEING A STAFF OR THE LOUD PLOT, KATHY OR ME, I THOUGHT IT WAS OFF.
UM, I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT OR ASK MY STAFF TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN BACK, UH, AN ANSWER TO SOME, DO MULTIPLE TESTS, INFORMATION THAT SUGGEST THE OFFICERS ARE, ARE UNAVAILABLE AT, UH, BEYOND FIVE IN SOME CASES.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OFTEN WE HAVE, UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TWO VIOLATIONS TAKING PLACE AFTER HOURS AROUND THE WEEKEND, ESPECIALLY IF, IF WE DON'T HAVE STUFF DURING THAT TIME.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAVE INCREASING,
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WE HAVE CONTINUED TO INCREASE THE FUNDING TO CODE IS TO PROVIDE, UM, OFFICER'S DOING THOSE GAPS AND THAT YOU CAN HOURS AND OVER THE WEEKEND.AND IT WOULD CONCERN ME IF, IF THE COVERAGE IS NOT, IS NOT AS ME ANTICIPATED.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
I WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON THAT, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM.
UM, I WASN'T SURE IF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, HARPER MADISON WAS GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE RBG AND I WAS JUST GOING TO LET IT GO TOO, BUT THEN I LEARNED FROM HER TO TAKE UP SPACE.
UM, AND SO I JUST DO, I DON'T HAVE ANY PREPARED, SO I'M JUST WANTING TO SAY QUICK, A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS ABOUT THAT, UM, UH, RESOLUTION, UH, FIRST I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL MEMBER CASAR BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY, UM, HE CAME, HE TALKED TO THE COUNSELOR, HARPER, MADISON, AND I ABOUT IT, AND, UH, DEFER TO US IN, IN LEADING ON IT.
AND SO I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR DOING THAT.
AND WE, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW WE KNEW THAT WITH THE, WITH THE FEMALE MAJORITY COUNCIL, WHO WOULD, WE WOULD PICK.
AND SO HE DECIDED WE WOULD JUST DO THE, THE MESSAGE BOARD POSTS, BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT EVERYBODY WOULD WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SHE HAS BEEN FOR WOMEN AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, AS AN ATTORNEY, I WAS IN LAW SCHOOL WHEN, UH, PRESIDENT OBAMA APPOINTED SONYA SOUGHT THEM OUT TO THIS, TO THE SUPREME COURT.
AND, AND AS ONE OF ONLY THREE LATINAS IN THAT LAW SCHOOL AT THAT TIME, IT WAS, IT WAS INCREDIBLY INSPIRING.
AND I KNOW THAT OUR I'M RUTH BADER GINSBURG ALSO INSPIRED, UM, THOUSANDS OF, OF FEMALE ATTORNEYS IN A TIME WHEN, WHEN THERE WERE NOT WOMEN IN THAT PROFESSION.
UH, WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAVE WORN ALL WHITE TO HONOR WOMEN.
WE, UH, LED BY COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, ALL BOUGHT JEWELRY.
UM, I JUST, I RAN TO PUT ON MY DISSENT, UH, JEWELRY, A LITTLE NECKLACE HERE, AND I ALSO VOTED ON TUESDAY WITH MY, UH, THE SENT NECKLACE ON.
AND WE ALSO ALL GOT TOGETHER ONCE TO WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY, UM, ALL THE FEMALE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND SO LOTS OF GREAT MEMORIES OF, FOR MY COLLEAGUES ON THE STYLIST.
SHE'S BEEN AN INSPIRATION FOR WOMEN.
I KNOW WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE AN INSPIRATION FOR WOMEN ENTERING THE LEGAL FIELD.
AND THANK YOU, UM, COUNSELOR HARPER MEDICINE FOR LEAN ON THIS AND, AND COUNSELOR CASAR FOR, FOR DEFERRING TO US ON THIS.
I APPRECIATE THE HONORING OF RUTH BADER GINSBURG AND JUST WANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, ECHO, UM, MR. ORMAN AND JUST SAYING HOW MUCH SHE MEANS, UM, NOT JUST AS A WOMAN, BUT ALSO AS A WOMAN OF JEWISH FAITH, UM, IN LEADING IN ALL THE WAYS THAT SHE DID, UM, ON A TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOTE.
I WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT I'M TO ALLOW 69, 70, 71 TO MOVE FORWARD ON CONSENT.
I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE WRITEUP THAT I GOT, THAT I REQUESTED ON TUESDAY.
HE WAS OCCUPIED YESTERDAY AND IS WORKING ON THAT.
I'M HOPING THAT BY THE TIME WE RESOLVE, UM, 73, 74 AND 75, WE WILL HAVE THAT.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE CLARITY ON THE FUNDS THAT ARE GOING IN TO SAVE STUFF AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
UM, AND I THINK WE GOT THAT CLARITY ON TUESDAY, BUT, UM, GIVEN OTHER CONFUSION THAT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCED AT COUNCIL MEETINGS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT IN WRITING AND WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE OF THAT.
UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THAT, UM, BEFORE WE FINALIZED THE END OF THE DAY, UM, ON OUR VOTES, UM, SO THAT WE STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT IF WE NEED TO, I DON'T ANTICIPATE WE WILL, BUT I DO WANT THAT IN WRITING.
SO ON TUESDAY I HAD ASKED HIM TO WALK THROUGH AND CLARIFY ALL THE POCKETS OF MONEY WHERE THE MONEY THAT WAS COMING FROM FOR THE SAVES RESOLUTION WITH RESPECT TO THE 15 MILLION, AND THEN WHERE THE 3.7 MILLION, HOW THAT DIFFERED AND WHERE THAT WAS GOING INTO.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WALKED THROUGH THAT AND THE DIASEND, IT WAS HELPFUL.
UM, BUT I HAD ASKED FOR THAT TO BE IN WRITING.
SO THERE WOULD NOT BE AMBIGUITY, UM, THAT IS NOT YET READY, UM, AND UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY IT'S NOT READY.
I ANTICIPATE GETTING THAT BY THE END OF THE DAY.
AND I WANT TO HAVE THAT BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT SORT OF FULLY VOTING FOR THE DAY THAT IMPACTS 69, 70 AND 71.
AND I'M CONTENT TO LET THEM GO FORWARD ON CONSENT.
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MAKING SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR TO THE CITY MANAGER THAT I'M EXPECTING TO HAVE THAT CLARITY BY THE END OF THE DAY WRITING.I KNOW YOU ARE, I JUST IN CASE SOMETHING CAME UP, I WANTED TO, TO, UM, BUT FOLKS KNOW CLERK.
DO WE STILL HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE WAITING TO SPEAK? NO, SIR.
UM, FOR ITEMS 76, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A WORKABLE WAY TO CHANGE THOSE LATE AUGUST, EARLY SEPTEMBER DATES.
SO I'M FINE TO PUT THAT BACK ON CONSENT.
ANY OBJECTIONS AT 76 WE'LL STAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH MY AMENDMENT INCORPORATING FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
LET'S TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION FOR A WHILE.
ACTUALLY, THIS IS MADISON CASEY.
ME NOW YOU STILL CAN'T SEE ME NOW.
UM, YEAH, I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO, TO THE RBG RESOLUTION AS WELL.
UM, PRIOR TO, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR TIM FOR, UM, FOR CATCHING MY ATTENTION.
THERE WAS A, A CONSTITUENT WHO HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM.
I ALSO ALMOST FORGOT TO PUT MY, MY, UH, DESCENT COLLAR EARRINGS ON.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY SAID THUS FAR, BUT, UM, MY OWN SORT OF TAKEN ON, UH, THE RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY WHEN I WAS BORN, THIS NATION HAD YET TO HAVE FEMALE JUSTICE, A FEMALE JUSTICE ON THE SUPREME COURT THAT WAS 1977.
RUTH BADER GINSBURG WAS ALREADY ARGUING AGAINST GENDER DISCRIMINATION, UM, IN FRONT OF THAT COURT.
AND ON BEHALF OF THE ACLU, SHE FOUGHT AGAINST GENDER DISCRIMINATION IN A VARIETY OF FORMS FROM TEXTILE TO DRINKING AGE, TO HOUSING SUBSIDIES.
UM, SO AS WE HONOR HER AND HONOR HER WORK, I HAD THE REALLY FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SAW ME CRY, MY, MY GIRLS COULDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY I WOULD BE SO SAD ABOUT A PERSON THAT I HAD NEVER MET.
UM, AND FRANKLY, I WASN'T DOING MY JOB BECAUSE THEY NEVER HEARD OF HER.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS IMMEDIATELY SIT DOWN AND, UH, WATCH A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT HER AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY WATCH ON THE BASIS OF SEX, UM, WHICH IS, UH, UH, SENATOR REPRESENTATION OF HER.
AND THEN MY TEN-YEAR-OLD TOLD ME SHE UNDERSTOOD WHY I WAS CRYING AND WHY THIS PERSON WAS SO IMPORTANT, EVEN THOUGH I HAD NEVER MET HER.
UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MY DAUGHTERS TO HER IN A ROUNDABOUT SORT OF WAY.
UM, AS WE HONOR HER AND HER WORK WITH THIS RESOLUTION TODAY, I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE RBT QUOTES WITH YOU.
UM, ONES THAT RE THAT I REALLY EMBRACED AND I BELIEVE REPRESENT VALUES OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN.
UM, WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT HER WORK, SHE SAID, IT'S NOT WOMEN'S LIBERATION.
IT IS WOMEN'S AND MEN'S LIBERATION.
UM, AND I'D LIKE VERY MUCH FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY SORT OF LET THAT RESONATE AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS.
SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT LEGAL AND CULTURAL BARRIERS WERE NOT PROTECTING OR SUPPORTING EITHER GENDER.
A CULTURE OF DIVISION DOES NOT SUPPORT ANY GROUP.
UM, SO SEPARATE CAN TRULY NEVER BE EQUAL AND THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S NOT THE FIRST AND WON'T BE THE LAST TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT THAT REALITY, UM, FIGHT FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU CARE ABOUT, BUT DO IT IN A WAY, WAY THAT WILL LEAD OTHERS TO JOIN YOU.
UM, JUST AS GOOD GINSBURG'S, UH, FRIENDSHIP WITH, UH, JUSTICE SCALIA OBVIOUSLY IS FAMOUS FOR ITS WARM, DESPITE THE PROFOUNDLY DIFFERENT VIEWS OF THE TWO JUSTICES.
I HOPE THAT WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER IN SUCH HARMONY.
UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A DREAM, UH, THAT I HAVE UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR SHARED GOAL IS TO IMPROVE ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND OUR WAY OF LIFE, FRANKLY, FOR ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS OVER HER LIFETIME RBG SET EXAMPLES FOR ALL OF US.
UM, AND THEY ARE ALL VERY ADMIRABLE.
UM, AT THE TIME THOUGH, THEY WERE UNCOMFORTABLE FOR HER, FOR HER FAMILY, FOR HER FRIENDS, BUT SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT HER WORK WOULD NOT BE COMPLETE WITHIN OUR LIFETIME.
AND I THINK WE ARE ALL HERE TODAY TO REFINE THE LAWS THAT ARE ON HER WORK.
WE HAVE FREEDOMS AND FLEXIBILITY, THANKS TO HER TIRELESS EFFORT.
AND WE HAVE HER GUIDANCE THROUGH HER WORDS.
SHE KNEW THAT SHE WAS BUILDING A PATH FORWARD FOR ALL OF US, EVEN WHEN SHE DISSENTED, WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE THIRD AND FINAL QUOTE.
SO THAT'S A DISSENTERS HOPE THAT THEY ARE WRITING NOT FOR TODAY, BUT FOR TOMORROW.
SO MY HOPE IS THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO STRENGTHEN OUR COMMUNITIES TOGETHER, KNOWING THAT EVEN IF WE DON'T WIN TODAY, WE ARE LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO BE VICTORIOUS.
UM, AND AGAIN, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES AS CO-SPONSORS AND SO HAPPY THAT WE'RE MOVING THIS
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FORWARD, I'M CONSENT AND HONOR OF JUSTICE GINSBERG AND HER LEGACY.WE'RE STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
LET'S TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT CONSENT AGENDA.
THOSE OPPOSED IT IS UNANIMOUS.
ALRIGHT GUYS, LET'S UH, WE HAVE A 21 AND 80, WHICH WE CANNOT TAKE UP UNTIL AFTER, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT LEAVES US 71 72, 73, 74 AND 75.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE FOR NON-CONSENT, UH, THAT WE COULD TAKE UP NOW THE HOUSING MATTERS.
UH, AND I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE DO THAT NOW SO THAT OUR HOUSING STAFF CAN LEAVE, UH, IT'S 1109.
SO YES, MAY I SUGGEST THAT AFTER WE TAKE OUT THE NON-CONSENT SO THAT WE CAN DISPENSE WITH THAT, COULD WE BREAK FOR FIVE OR 10 MINUTES? WE'VE GOTTEN THIS MORNING.
UM, YOU HAVE AMENDMENTS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER LS HAS POSTED AMENDMENTS, AND WE'VE GOTTEN A MEMO FROM DIRECTOR SPILLER FROM ROSIE TRUELOVE AND FROM OUR CONVENTION CENTER DIRECTOR, INTERIM DIRECTOR, ALL OF WHICH RELATES TO THE NEXT BODY OF, UH, UM, ITEMS, THE 72, THAT SAVES ITEMS. AND SO I THINK WE MIGHT, I'M JUST THINKING, I KNOW I WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT IF I HAD TIME TO READ THE THREE MEMOS THAT HAVE JUST COME IN AND THE TWO SETS OF AMENDMENTS AND GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER SENSE OF, OF HOW MINE SEPARATE THAT.
SO JUST HAVING A LITTLE TIME TO DO THAT WITHOUT ALL OF US TRYING TO ABSORB ALL OF THAT NEW INFO ON THE DAYAS MIGHT BE MORE EFFICIENT.
I WAS THINKING THAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE.
I WAS GOING TO DO THESE, BUT I MIGHT ACTUALLY BREAK TILL NOON.
I WANT TO REAL QUICKLY AT A HIGH LEVEL ADDRESS ITEM 74 AND 75 BEFORE WE WOULD TAKE A BREAK JUST TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF SET OUT KIND OF LIKE INTENTION AT THIS POINT, CAUSE I'LL BE RECOMMENDING POSTPONING OF 74 AND 75.
SO LET'S DO THAT, BUT, BUT NOT ACT ON THOSE RIGHT AWAY UNTIL PEOPLE, EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO CATCH UP.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BUT LET'S GO AHEAD
[Austin Housing Finance Corporation]
AND LET THE FOLKS GO.UH, SO I'M GOING TO, UH, RECESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE AT 1111, UH, HERE ON OCTOBER 40 20, AND I AM GOING TO CONVENE THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MEETING HERE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.
WE HAVE A QUORUM OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND WE HAVE ONE, UH, UH, UH, ITEM OF, UH, OF, UH, CHANGES AND CORRECTION, WHICH I'M GOING TO READ INTO THE RECORD ITEM.
NUMBER ONE HAS THE MINUTES THAT WERE POSTED FOR GRIND 1720, SEPTEMBER 17, WITH THAT SAID, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE US THROUGH OUR AGENDA THIS MORNING? YES, MA'AM IT'S ROSIE TRUELOVE.
I'M THE TREASURER OF THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION.
UH, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE LATE BACKUP ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, THAT IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING ITEM.
NUMBER TWO IS AN INDUCEMENT RESOLUTION THAT ALLOWS AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE TEXAS BOND REVIEW BOARD FOR AN ALLOCATION OF PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS IN THE AMOUNT OF 37 MILLION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE REBECCA ALSO KNOWN AS THE TOWER.
THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE OF REDEVELOPMENT AT, OF RBJ AND ALLOWS AND FOLLOWS, EXCUSE ME, THE $50 MILLION PRIVATE ACTIVITY BOND ALLOCATION FOR THE LADY BIRD, WHICH WAS ALSO KNOWN AS THE WRAP, WHICH WAS ISSUED IN 2017.
I OFFER BOTH OF THESE ITEMS ON CONSENT.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, A MAYOR PRO TEM GARAGE THAT MAKES THAT MOTION, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, UH, RENT AREA, UH, SECONDS THAT, UH, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? THAT'S REMEMBER AT 30 YET.
THAT MONEY IS GOING TO GO FOR A REHAB IN THE TOWN.
AND HOW MANY UNITS DO WE HAVE THERE? RESONANTLY UM, I'M LOOKING THROUGH MY BACKUP.
UH, I'VE GOT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, JAMIE VAN ON THE PHONE AND HE MAY ALSO, UH, HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.
I JUST WANT TO FIND OUT, CAUSE I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD ABOUT 250 CLOSE TO 250, OR THEY REALIZED THAT THEY HAD LESS THAN YEAH.
THIS IS JAMIE WITH THE, UM, HOUSING PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
I'M UM, I HONESTLY CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW MANY UNITS THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
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HAVE UP TO TWO 77 UNITS IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.UM, AND UH, JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, QUITE AN IMPRESSIVE REHABILITATION TO, UH, UH, UPGRADE TO CURRENT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.
AND THOSE UNITS THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR MARKET RATE ARE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE PENTHOUSE UP THERE ON TOP, OR DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT? NORMALLY OUR AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE, WHAT IS WE CALL IT? WHAT IS TERMS FLOATING? UH, SO IT WOULD BE WHATEVER'S AVAILABLE, UH, AS LONG AS THEY CAN HIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT THEY CAN DEDICATE TO US.
UH, SO IT COULD BE THE FIRST FLOOR OR THE TOP FLOOR.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT DEVELOPER, UH, WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE RESERVED CERTAIN UNITS, UH, FOR CERTAIN LEVELS OF AFFORDABILITY.
CAUSE I, I I'VE BEEN UP THERE TO THE TOP AND IT HAS A BEAUTIFUL YEAR OF ALL OVER THE PLACE AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE IT WHERE IT JUST NOTHING, BUT A LOT OF WEALTHY PEOPLE ARE JUST LIVING UP THERE ON TOP IN THE MARKET RATE AREA AND THE REST OF THE PEOPLE.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT THEY, YOU SCATTERED THOSE UNITS AROUND, EXPERT'S GOING TO BE A, IF WE'RE GOING TO BE FINANCING PART OF THAT.
SO JUST IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT'S NUMBER.
WE WILL ASK THE DEVELOPER TO PREPARE A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S HAPPENED ALREADY AT THE SITE AND WHAT'S ANTICIPATED FOR THIS NEXT PHASE.
AND WE'LL SEND THAT OUT TO MARIN COUNCIL.
I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK THE QUESTION, KEEP THEM NEEDING ME.
MY COLLEAGUE RAISES A GOOD POINT.
DO YOU, IS THERE ANYTHING WITHIN, WITHIN OUR CURRENT AGREEMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSING IS MIXED OF THOSE WITH THE BEST VIEW OR ALSO AMONG THE AFFORDABLE? I KNOW YOU SAID, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU WOULD ASK THE DEVELOPER FOR AN UPDATE, BUT THAT DOESN'T, THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY GUIDE, UM, GUIDE THAT PROCESS AND THE WAY THAT, THAT I THINK, UM, KIND OF COUNSELED MY COMMENTS WOULD SUGGEST CERTAINLY, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
I'M NOT SURE THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS FOR THE INDUCEMENT RESOLUTION OF THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S NOT CITY OF AUSTIN OR AUSTIN HOUSING, FINANCE CORPORATION DOLLARS.
AND SO WE CAN LOOK AT, UM, HOW THAT MAY PLAY OUT AS PART OF WHAT OUR AGREEMENT, IF WE'RE DOING ANY GAP FINANCING FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND I'LL ADDRESS IT WITH STAFF.
THEY DO NEED OUR, THEY DO NEED OUR APPROVAL TO BE ABLE TO SECURE ACTIVITY BONDS.
SO WE DO HAVE, I MEAN, THEY THOUGHT FOR THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, THEY WOULD BE LIMITED IN THEIR ABILITY TO SEE LIMITED TO NOT AT ALL AND THEIR ABILITY TO SEEK PRIVATE ACTIVITY BONDS.
UM, I GUESS I WOULD INVITE MY COLLEAGUES TO MAYBE MAKE THAT AS, UM, SOME LEVEL OF DIRECTION, AT LEAST AS, AS I'M INCLINED TO DO SO AT LEAST A STRONG ENCOURAGEMENT, UM, MAYBE SOME ADDING SOME DIRECTION TO STAFF THAT THEY COULD BE TO CONVEY TO THE DEVELOPER, UM, OUR STRONG INTEREST IN SEEING THAT SOME OF THOSE UNITS AT THE TOP OF THE BEST VIEWS, UM, INCLUDE SOME AFFORDABLE UNITS.
UM, I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT THE UNITS DEDICATED IN BOTH THE TOWER AND THE WRAP OR THE REBECCA AND THE LABOR AS THEY RETURN, UM, MATCH IT UP THAT 60% MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME.
UM, SO THERE IT'S A MIXTURE OF 30%, 50% AND 60% THE MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT IS, UH, UM, OUTSIDE OF THESE TWO CONSTRUCTIONS.
SO THAT ALL IN FACT, JAMIE, ALL OF THE UNITS THAT ARE SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE, THE TALL TOWER ARE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE AND RESTRICTIVE.
THAT'S VERY HELPFUL COLLEAGUES.
UH, THERE'S BEEN MO MOTION IN A SECOND TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA HERE AT THE CORPORATION MEETING.
TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THOSE OPPOSED IT'S UNANIMOUS ON THE DIASEND CONSENT AGENDA PASSES.
WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER COSARA IS NOT ON THE SCREEN FOR, COULD WE CONFIRM IF HE, OH, THERE HE IS.
UNANIMOUS ALL THE DIRECTORS AND THAT WAS ALL OF OUR BUSINESS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THE,
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UH, ALSO HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION MEETING HERE AT 1118.WE'RE GOING TO, UM, UH, RECONVENE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING HERE AT 1118.
IT IS, UH, OCTOBER 15TH, 2020 STILLS MEETING IS CONTINUING, UH, VIRTUALLY.
[Consent Agenda (Part 2 of 2)]
UH, SO THE ONLY ITEMS WE HAVE LEFT TO TAKE OFF ARE, UH, 80 AND 21, WHICH SHOULD BE TAKEN UP FOLLOWING, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.UM, WE CAN, UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, PULLED ITEMS 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, AND THOSE ARE THE OTHER PULLED ITEMS. SO, UH, IT IS 1119.
I THINK IF THE ATTORNEY IS, WERE, WERE AVAILABLE TO DO THIS, WE COULD PROBABLY JUST REAL BRIEFLY DISCUSS NOT THE MERITS, BUT JUST TO GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED ITEMS, 71 72, 73, 74, 75, IF PEOPLE WANT TO, WE CAN GET THEN GO INTO, UH, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
I COME BACK OUT FOR NOON, UM, UH, CITIZEN COMMUNICATIONS SPEAKER, UH, AND THAT WAY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, RATHER THAN HAVING TO BREAK FORTH THE SECTOR.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, UM, CAN'T REMEMBER ALTER CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I HAD IT LISTED THAT 71 WENT ON CONSENT.
SHE SAID WE COULD PUT 71 BACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
76 WENT BACK ONTO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THAT WAS THIS 71 CONCERN SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT ITEMS, INCLUDING THE MEMO THAT CAME OUT.
AND THAT'S WHAT KATHLEEN WAS SAYING.
SHE WANTED A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO READ THEM.
THAT'S WHERE MY KITCHEN, UM, UH, I LIKE WHAT YOU LAID OUT IN GENERAL.
I'M NOT SURE WHY DON'T WE JUST GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW? I, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IF I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WOULD DO ON, UM, 71, 72, 73, LET ME DO THAT.
AND OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO ADDRESS IT.
I WANT TO ADDRESS COLLEAGUES 74 AND 75 BEFORE WE TAKE A BREAK AND, AND READ THINGS.
I'M, UM, I'M GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING THAT WE POSTPONE 74 AND 75, WHICH ARE THE, UH, UH, PROJECT, UM, UH, LAYOUT THAT CAME FROM STAFF WITH RESPECT TO THOSE TWO FUNDS CONSISTENT WITH, I THINK THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD THREE WEEKS AGO, CAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT AS IT'S LAID OUT, IT ACTUALLY DOES WHAT IT WAS THAT WE INTENDED IT TO, UH, TO DO.
SO I'M GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE GIVE DIRECTION, UH, BUT POSTPONE THOSE ITEMS, UH, AND DIRECTION, HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD ACTUALLY LET STAFF AND THE COMMUNITY START MOVING NOW IN THAT, IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF BOTH THESE ITEMS IS TO PROVIDE REAL LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
UH, THE INTENT IS MORE THAN JUST TO HELP BUSINESSES SURVIVE THE NEXT, UH, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS.
SO TO AFFECT US, I THINK THE PROGRAM NEEDS TO GET REAL EXPERTISE, LEGAL AND ACCOUNTING TO THE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS.
UH, THE FINAL RELIEF COULD VERY WELL VARY FROM ELIGIBLE ACCOUNT, UH, APPLICANTS TO, TO ANOTHER, UH, BASED ON THEIR PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES AND NEEDS.
UH, WE KNOW WE CAN'T HELP EVERYONE WHO IS HURTING AND NEEDS ASSISTANCE, BUT WE CAN HELP SOME PEOPLE AND PROVIDE HELP THAT WILL ENSURE ACTUAL LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THESE AREAS WERE HAVING DIFFICULTY EVEN BEFORE WE WENT INTO THE PANDEMIC.
UH, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THE OPPORTUNITY OF THE CASH INFUSION NOW OR RESOURCES TO, TO HOPEFULLY END UP WITH THESE BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO HELP IN A BETTER POSITION THAN THEY WERE AS WE, UH, FINISHED, UH, AS WE WERE ENTERING INTO THE, THE, THE, THE PANDEMIC.
UH, I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, UH, SO THE GOAL HERE HAS DONE IS TO PROVIDE SOME HELP, UH, AND PROVIDE, UH, HELP THAT WOULD ENSURE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
THE ULTIMATE AWARDING OF ASSISTANCE MAY VERY WELL INVOLVE SOME SUBJECTIVE DETERMINATIONS, UH, BUT OUR STAFF IS LEERY OF BEING PUT INTO THAT POSITION.
UM, WE DISCUSSED DOING A LOTTERY, UH, WITH OBJECTIVE CRITERIA, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT ACTUALLY ENABLES US TO REALLY TAILOR OUR RESOURCES TO THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, PROVIDE A REAL LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT TASK MAY MORE PROPERLY BELONG TO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT GEARING THAT UP SO THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY HELP, UH, FASHION SOME OF THE RESOLUTIONS THAT,
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THAT MIGHT BOTH HELP AND PROVIDE THAT LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY.SO WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE PURPOSES AS SET OUT IN, IN THAT UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED RESOLUTION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
SO I WANT TO PROPOSE THAT WE POSTPONE THESE TWO ITEMS WITH DIRECTION AND STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PROGRAM GUIDELINES.
UM, AND WE'RE WORKING ON SUCH KIND OF WORDING RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND, AND HOPEFULLY I WANTED TO SPEAK NOW SO THAT PEOPLE CAN START THINKING ABOUT THAT.
UH, IN THE MEANTIME, AT THIS POINT AT A HIGH LEVEL, UH, THE DIRECTION THAT I THINK WILL BE RECOMMENDED, UH, AFTER TALKING TO THE STAKEHOLDERS AND TO SOME OF THE STAFF WOULD BE TO REAFFIRM THE PURPOSES SET OUT BY THE COUNCIL AND THE PRIOR RESOLUTION, BOTH PROGRAMS, THAT'S MUSIC AND LEGACY WOULD INVITE APPLICANTS, UH, THAT MAKE THE CASE THAT THEY MEET THE STATED PURPOSE AND CRITERIA.
UH, STAFF WOULD BE ASKED TO TAKE A, ANOTHER LOOK AT THE STATE OF PURPOSE OF CRITERIA FOR APPLICANTS CONTAINED IN THE RESOLUTION.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THE POTENTIAL APPLICANT POOL IS AS GREAT AS THEY INDICATED IN THE ANSWER THAT STAFF PROVIDED, BUT ANYHOW, ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS THEN WOULD RECEIVE A CAPPED AMOUNT OF LEGAL OR ACCOUNTING AND OR ACCOUNTING, UH, ASSISTANCE TO ACTUALLY GIVE THESE FOLKS EXPERTISE THAT, THAT THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE OTHERWISE HAD AVAILABLE TO THEM.
UM, STAFF COULD BEGIN RIGHT NOW CREATING A POOL OF LOCAL ATTORNEYS OR ACCOUNTANTS THAT COULD, UH, ADVISE ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS BOTH ON HOW THEY MIGHT SURVIVE AND, AND BETTER ENSURE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY, AS WELL AS WHAT PLAN THE APPLICANT WOULD THEN PRESENT TO THE CITY FOR ITS, UH, ULTIMATE GRANT OR OTHER FUNDING OR SUPPORT OR PROGRAM.
UH, MAYBE EACH OF THEM WOULD GET A VOUCHER FOR 10 TO 20 HOURS OF ATTORNEY OR CPA COUNSEL THAT ASSISTANCE NOT UNLIKE THE ASSISTANCE WE'RE GIVING TO TENANTS AND THE, IN A TENANT, UM, UH, ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT KIND OF COUNSEL ASSISTANCE THEY WOULD RECEIVE, UH, MIGHT WITHOUT LIMITATION HELPING THEM NEGOTIATE A NEW LEASE FOR, UH, A LONGER TERM OR MORE FAVORABLE, UH, UH, TERM EXPLORING THE PROS AND CONS OF REORGANIZATION AND THE BANKRUPTCY.
BRINGING IN NEW INVESTORS, PARTICIPATING IN A MUSIC VENUE, CONSERVANCY, SEEKING A HISTORIC PRESERVATION MONEY BY OR ESTABLISHING NEW OWNERSHIP OF A LOCATION.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT COULD BE LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD BE SPECIFICALLY TAILORED TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THE LONGTERM RESULT AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LEVERAGE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE RIGHT NOW, IF THEY ACTUALLY HAD CAPITAL TO, TO BRING TO THE TABLE BY VIRTUE OF OUR GRANT FROM THE FARM, IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE PERHAPS THAT, UH, UH, SOME ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS MIGHT NOT NEED ANY MORE ASSISTANCE THAN THAT TIME WITH THE ACCOUNTANTS AND THE CPA THAT MAY PROVIDE FOR THEM WHAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BOTH SURVIVE IN A SITUATION WHERE EVICTIONS HAVE BEEN STOPPED AND OR OTHERWISE.
SO SOME OF THEM MIGHT JUST NEED THAT STAFF WOULD ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BUY TEMPORARY AND EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE TO AN OTHERWISE ELIGIBLE APPLICANT THAT WON'T SURVIVE LONG ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
IN OTHER WORDS, SOMETHING TO TIDE THEM OVER SO THAT THEY CAN PARTICIPATE.
IT MAY VERY WELL BE THAT THE ATTORNEY OR THE CPA ADVICE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MITIGATE SUCH AN EMERGENCY AND BY THE TIME TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS, BUT IF NOT SOMEONE ALLOWANCE THAT WOULD MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T LOSE ANYBODY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE MEANTIME, THE SORT OF ALSO ALLOW THE STAFF TO DELEGATE TO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION IF YOU CHOSE TO DO SO.
THE FINAL SELECTION OF WHICH PLANS OR APPLICATION PLANS ARE SUPPORTED BY THE FUND.
UH, AND THEN IN WHAT WAYS THE LIVE MUSIC VENUE FUNDED OR LEGACY FUND WOULD BE REAL SIMILAR, UH, SAVE AND ACCEPT THE, THE APPLICANTS THAT WERE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THEM.
I JUST WANTED TO LAY ALL THAT OUT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE ACCOUNT WITH THE STAFF HAD LAID OUT, UH, INITIALLY.
AND I THINK THAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IF WE ASKED TO HAVE TO COME BACK AT IT WOULD, WOULD, WOULD MORE MEET THE GOALS AND THINGS THAT WE HAD.
WE HAD LAID OUT COUNCILMEMBER KITCHEN.
UM, IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH A CONVERSATION.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP.
UM, THERE ARE TWO POINTS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
UH, TALK ABOUT IT MORE, BUT JUST TWO POINTS THAT I WILL WANT TO, UM, DISCUSS WHEN WE GET INTO THOSE ITEMS. CAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO LAY THEM OUT RIGHT NOW.
UH, ONE POINT IS THAT I THINK WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS PUTTING TOGETHER TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES, WHICH MAY BE OKAY, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN DO THE TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES AT THE LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
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BECAUSE I HEAR TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES.ONE OF THEM IS MORE BRIDGE TO HELP THEM SURVIVE.
UH, THE SECOND ONE IS MORE OF LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT A BLACK, IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE AND EVERY INCIDENT INSTANCE, AND IT CAN BLEED OVER, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
I DON'T THINK $4.5 MILLION OR $5 MILLION IS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS MINUS THE ADMINISTRATION.
UH, $5 MILLION IS NOT SIGNIFICANT FOR LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY FOR ANY, ANY, ANY REAL NUMBER OF OUR LEGACY BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, I, I LIKE THE APPROACH THAT YOU'RE TAKING.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE MORE, UM, TO REALLY BE MORE THOUGHTFUL AND CUSTOMIZED TO WHAT AN INDIVIDUAL ENTITY NEEDS.
UM, AND, AND I THINK THAT TAKES US MUCH FURTHER THAN JUST GIVING THEM, YOU KNOW, 40 OR $60,000, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS ENOUGH EITHER.
SO, UM, SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS. UM, I WOULDN'T BE OPPOSED TO, TO POSTPONING EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS IN TERMS OF HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET IT UP AND GOING.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK, I REALLY THINK WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS BOTH NEEDS, UM, ONE BEING THE IMMEDIATE BRIDGE, UH, IDEA, AND THAT TAKES SOME MONEY AND THAT TAKES RIGHT AWAY, UH, LONGER-TERM SUSTAINABILITY TAKES MONITORING MONEY AND IT WILL TAKE LONGER.
SO, UM, SO ANYWAY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE GET TO THOSE ITEMS. OKAY.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY THOUGHTFUL PLAN.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE YOU LAYING IT OUT NOW SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT OVER THE NEXT LITTLE WHILE, BUT I I'M COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN RAISES THAT TIMING QUESTION AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART THAT'S AND I WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AS I PONDER IT HERE IN THE NEXT HOUR OR SO, CAN YOU, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT FOR VENUES THAT NEEDED IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE, THERE WOULD BE SOME AVAILABLE, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T, IF WE POSTPONE SOME OF THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES, WOULD YOU JUST TALK THROUGH THAT PIECE? LIKE WHAT, YEAH.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF HELPING THEM CREATE MORE SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS WITH, WITHOUT ADDITIONAL, WHICH I THINK AS YOU'VE OUTLINED, UM, THE ACCOUNTING AND THE LEGAL EXPERTISE REALLY DOES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO LOSE BUSINESSES IN THE MEANTIME.
AND I KNOW YOU EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN AND HAD A SOLUTION FOR IT.
I JUST DIDN'T LIKE I FOLLOW IT.
AND, AND, AND TO THAT END, I THINK THE HOPE IS TO GET PEOPLE THAT EXPERTISE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, AND FOR THE STAFF TO FACILITATE THAT BY GOING OUT TO SOME FIRMS AND GETTING THEM TO AGREE, TO TAKE THESE CLIENTS, AND THEN WE CAN ISSUE VOUCHERS FOR 10, 15, 20 HOURS THAT THEY CAN THEN FILL IN ACCESS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT MAY BE ALL THAT SOME OF THEM NEED, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT GIVING SUBSTANTIAL SHORT TERM OR IMMEDIATE, JUST TIED OVER SUPPORT BECAUSE I THINK IT COULD ALSO BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE LONGTERM GOAL OF PROVIDING SUSTAINABILITY.
IF WE WERE TO GIVE, SAY ONE PARTICULAR, A TENANT FOUR MONTHS RENT, FOR EXAMPLE, TO TIDE THEM OVER FOR THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS.
AND THEY THEN GAVE THAT TO THEIR LANDLORD TO TIDE OVER FOR THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, THEY MAY WELL HAVE LOST A LOT OF THE BARGAINING LEVERAGE THAT THEY WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE A LONGER TERM LEASE, UH, OR AT LEAST WITH BETTER TERMS OR SOMETHING ELSE.
AND I WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO HAVE THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF LEVERAGE THAT, THAT A SOPHISTICATED MARKET PARTICIPANT WOULD HAVE IF THEY HAD ACCESS TO THE KINDS OF EXPERTISE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, GIVING THEM ACCESS TO NOW.
UH, SO, UH, IT, IT'S NOT, AS WE ORIGINALLY HAD SET THIS UP SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, IT WASN'T JUST A TIDE PEOPLE OVER DURING THE PANDEMIC.
IT WAS TO ACTUALLY USE THIS OPPORTUNITY SO THAT THEY HAD LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY ON THE BACK END.
THEN I THINK THOSE ARE RELATED.
BUT TO THE QUESTION SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU ASKED IF SOMEBODY RAISES THEIR HAND AND SAYS, I CAN'T, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO WAIT FOR YOU TO RUN YOUR PROCESS.
CAUSE I'M GOING TO DIE IN THREE WEEKS.
SO WE'RE GIVING THE STAFF THE ABILITY TO ONE LET'S GET THEM, THEIR ATTORNEY AND THEIR CPA REAL FAST.
CAUSE IT MAY NOT BE THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO DIE IN THREE WEEKS IF THEY ACTUALLY, IF THEY HAD GREATER EXPERTISE.
BUT IF THAT EXPERTISE DOES NOT PROVIDE THEM, THEN YES, I WANT THE STAFF TO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO HELP YOU SUSTAIN LONG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO THIS PROCESS, TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT CAN, CAN, CAN HELP YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR RICH, WHICH AGENDA
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ITEM DO YOU FEEL, WHICH AGENDA ITEM DO YOU FEEL GOOD TO STAFF THE DISCRETION TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SHORT TERM HELP WHILE WAITING FOR THE LONGER? I THINK WE WORK THAT INTO THE LANGUAGE ON ITEM 74 AND 75, WHICH IS THE ONE WE'RE ASKING THEM TO COME BACK WITH DIFFERENT PROGRAM OPTIONS FOR THOSE TWO PROGRAMS, BUT POSTPONE IT WITH DIRECTION.AND THAT'S ONE OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT WE GET THAT WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO BUILD INTO YOUR PROGRAM, THIS DISCRETION, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE NOBODY DIES WHILE THEY'RE WAITING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS.
AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT BY WAY OF DIRECTION.
SO I HAVE TO THINK A LITTLE BIT THEN AGAIN, I'M STILL A LITTLE FLUMMOXED BY THE TIMING ISSUES HERE.
UM, KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT MEETING AGAIN UNTIL THE 29TH.
SO WHAT OTHER THINGS I'M GOING TO THINK ABOUT AS WE, AS WE REFLECT ON IT IS WHETHER, UM, AND MAYBE THIS, MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE US SOME SENSE OF HOW LONG YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO, TO TWEAK THOSE DOCUMENTS SO THAT THEY BUILD IN THAT DISCRETION.
AND I WOULD OFFER THAT IF WE THINK 29TH, MAYBE IF IT'S GOING TO KEEP THE PROGRAM FROM REALLY MOVING FORWARD, IF WE RACHEL THE 29TH, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE A CONVERSATION GOING ON ABOUT MONDAY'S DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
UM, WE HAD AN, AS I UNDERSTOOD THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE A HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING UP, MEET WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, AND PUBLIC HEALTH, MAYBE KNOWING THAT HOMELESSNESS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HAVING THOSE JOINT MEETINGS, AS I UNDERSTAND THAT MAY NOT BE THE PLAN.
UM, BUT ONE OPTION THERE WOULD BE TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
SO IF IT'S A BLADDER ISSUE, UM, WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED MEETING.
THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE THIS UP ON MONDAY, IF THAT'S, IF IT'S REALLY JUST A MATTER OF POSTING LANGUAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WEREN'T READY FOR TODAY, IF IT'S LONGER MORE SUBSTANTIAL WORK THAT THE STAFF IS GOING TO DO, THEN THAT'S LIKELY NOT ENOUGH TIME.
BUT I GUESS MY, MY MAIN, I WANT THAT MORE THOUGHTFUL, SUSTAINABLE APPROACH, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO LOSE THOSE VENUES.
AND I KNOW FOR SOME OF THEM, IT REALLY IS.
I MEAN, A COUPLE OF WEEKS PLUS THE ADDITIONAL TIME TO GET ATTORNEYS ON BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, COULD REALLY ADD UP TO THROUGH A DELAY THAT'S UNTENABLE.
SO KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING THROUGH, AND IF YOU COULD HELP TALK ME THROUGH WHAT THAT TIMETABLE LOOKS LIKE, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
AND LET ME ALSO TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY DURING THE BREAK.
CAUSE I THINK WE CAN GIVE THAT SPECIFIC DIRECTION AND AUTHORIZATION TO EXPEND FUNDS TO THAT END AND THAT PURPOSE IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE GIVE TO THEM.
SO THEN WHY WOULD WE POSTPONE IT EXACTLY BECAUSE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THAT DOES NOT LAY OUT THE PROGRAM THAT WE WANT, THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED TO US ARE 40 TO 60,000, ULTIMATELY AWARDED BY A LOTTERY, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T HAVE THE LEGAL ASSISTANCE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE EARLIER STEP.
IT'S JUST NOT THE MORE TAILORED APPROACH.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME REALLY TODAY HERE ON THE DIET FOR TASKS THAT, BUT I GUESS ONE QUESTION WOULD BE WHETHER WE WOULD HAVE TIME TO RECAST IT FOR MONDAY.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER THAT.
I JUST KNOW WE ALL STARTED TRYING TO DO THAT YESTERDAY AND COULD SIT THERE AND REALLY, AND STAFF THAT HAS TO DESIGN THE PROGRAM, NOT AS, I THINK WE TEND TO BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT OUR INTENT IS AND, AND YOU ARE AUTHORIZED TO ENSURE THAT NOBODY DIES IN THE MEANTIME WHILE WE'RE FIGURING THIS OUT, BUT DON'T, BUT DON'T HAVE PEOPLE GIVE UP UNKNOWINGLY LEVERAGE THAT THEY MIGHT OTHERWISE HAVE FOR A LONGER TERM SOLUTION.
LET'S GET THEM THE EXPERTISE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN SO THAT THEY PAY DON'T, THEY, THEY, THEY MAXIMIZE THEIR POSITION.
UH, ALISON, SO AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMING PART WITH A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE OUR IMMEDIATE SHORT TERM OR MEDIUM TERM AND OUR LONG TERM ISSUES, UM, WHICH I THINK WE ALL CARE ABOUT.
I'M WONDERING THOUGH ONE DIRECTION, I DON'T KNOW IF ALREADY THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IS, UM, WE ARE ALSO SETTING UP A BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND, WHICH NOTHING STOPS US FROM DOING EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID IN TERMS OF THE ACCOUNTING AND THE REAL ESTATE HELP UNDER THAT FUND.
UM, AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PIECE OF IT TODAY, UM, IF WE COULD GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT UNDER THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND FOR THAT TO MOVE FORWARD, I THINK THAT'S ALREADY SLIGHTLY BUILT INTO IT.
UM, AND WE COULD PROVIDE THAT DIRECTION, UM, YOU KNOW, UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE MONEY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, SO THAT THEY COULD IMMEDIATELY, UM, BEGIN MOVING FORWARD, UM, WITH THAT PIECE AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS AND THEN FIND SOMEBODY TO ADMINISTER IT AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
UM, THAT WOULD AT LEAST POTENTIALLY GET US MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE AS I'M UNDERSTANDING THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND IS VERY MUCH INTENDED FOR THE SAFE, UM, FUNCTIONS AS WELL.
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EXACTLY HOW THAT WOULD WORK, CAUSE I JUST HEARD YOUR IDEA FOR RIGHT NOW.UM, BUT MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD, UM, WORK OUT A WAY FORWARD THAT GIVES THEM SUFFICIENT DIRECTION AND SOME FUNDING THAT'S CLEAR.
UM, AND IT'S, I THINK IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
UH, AFTER TALKING TO WITH KATHY, UH, I'VE SUGGESTED AN AMENDMENT, UH THAT'S UH, IN THE PACKAGE THAT HAS BEEN HANDED OUT TO EVERYBODY, BUT IT DOESN'T GO AS, AS COMPLETE AS WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
SO I THINK IF WE WORKED ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, I THINK, I THINK YOURS IS A GOOD IDEA AND, AND IT WOULD BE MY HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE PROFESSIONAL FEES WOULD COME FROM THE ACCOUNT THAT KATHY IS CREATING SO THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE CORPUS IN THOSE ACCOUNTS, IN THE SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.
HOW ABOUT AN ANSWER TURN AND THEN CATHY MAYOR, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH TALKING ABOUT THESE THREE, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST, I THINK THIS IS WHAT YOU SUGGESTED I'M NOT SURE OF IS THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION NEXT.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE UP 80 PART OF TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, 70, ALL THE, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATED, UM, 80 IS 80 IS FOCUSED ON AN IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE IDEA THAT RELATES TO IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON THE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
WHEREAS WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE SAVES AS THE IMMEDIATE, UM, BRIDGE, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A, MAYBE WE CAN SOLVE FOR BOTH.
UH, I JUST THINK MAYBE WE SOLVE FOR BOTH IN SOME WAY, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THEM TOGETHER.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SEPARATE, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO WE'LL DEF DISCUSSED 80 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE ACTUALLY START TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DO WITH THE OTHERS.
WITH RESPECT TO 74 AND 75, THE INTENT THERE WAS ALSO IN THE RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED THREE WEEKS AGO, ALSO ADDRESS LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY AS ONE OF THE CRITERIA IS FOR OUR INVESTMENT.
SO THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE ALL KIND OF INTERMIXED IN AND EMERGED.
UH, KATHY, YOU WERE NEXT, IF YOU WANTED TO.
AND THEN ALISON, IT'S GOING TO OFFER A, A ONE LINE OBSERVATION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR IS DESCRIBING AS AN OPTION, I THINK IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH YOUR AMENDMENT AND TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THAT FLEXIBILITY OF, OF OUR NOT HAVING REALLY DESCRIBED HOW WE WANT TO USE THE BUSINESS OR PRESERVATION FUNDS.
SO I THINK THAT REALLY MIGHT GET US THERE.
UH, INSTEAD OF 30 DAY, WHICH I THINK WOULD HELP.
ALISON, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAYBE SUGGEST THAT, UM, IF WE CAN KNOCK OUT THE CHILDCARE ONE EASILY IN THE DISCUSSION THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT I'M NOT I'M, I THINK THERE'S A FAIR, THERE MAY BE JUST FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THERE'S WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE, UM, THE LABOR PIECE OF THE CHILDCARE ONE.
UM, AND WE MIGHT WANT TO ALLOW THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY TO ADD SOME OF THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING, UM, AS PART OF IT, IF THEY DEEM IT'S APPROPRIATE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THE CHILDCARE ONE FROM WHAT I'M HEARING IS MIGHT, IT JUST MIGHT BE QUICKER.
AND AT THIS POINT WE DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WE REALLY HAVE TIME TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION BEFORE WE'RE BACK OUT HERE.
AND DUDE, UH, SINCE IT'S 1142 RIGHT NOW, SO PROBABLY THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION SPEAKER, THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION, THEN TAKE OUR BREAK AND THEN COME BACK AT THAT TOO.
I DIDN'T WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DIDN'T DO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR 54 55, 56 AND 57.
SO WE CAN ALSO DO THE, THANK YOU REMINDING ME ABOUT THAT.
CAN WE ALSO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE READING FOUR 73, 74, 75.
SO WE HAVE, SO THE STATEMENT I JUST GAVE TO YOU, I'M GOING TO POST TO THE MESSAGE BOARD SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT I JUST SAID.
UH, WE STARTED TAKING A STAB AT WHAT THE STAFF HAD GIVEN US ON 74 75 WITH THE CONVERSATIONS.
WE HAVE A RED LINE DRAFT OF THAT, THAT, THAT I'LL ALSO POST.
UH, I'M NOT SURE IT, I DON'T THINK HE REALLY DOES WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH IN TERMS OF GIVING, WRITING A PROGRAM.
CAUSE THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT, BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME, I'LL PUT, THROW THAT ELEMENT OUT THERE FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL.
IT MAY HELP WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE GET.
UH, THERE ARE OTHER MEMOS, UH, ALISON THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE ITEMS THAT WE'RE, THAT RELATES TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THAT
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PROBABLY WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO READ.HOW WOULD WE COME FOR THAT CONVERSATION? THE ONE BEFORE THE, AFTER THE OCTOBER 9TH ONE OR JUST THE OCTOBER 9TH, ONE THERE'S ONE THAT CAME OUT ON GREAT STREETS YESTERDAY, I THINK.
THAT'S FROM HOUSING AND PLANNING.
THEY'RE NOT FROM SPELLER, KATHY.
WERE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A HOUSING AND PLANNING AND HIS FILLER MEMO OTHER THAN THE OCTOBER 9TH ONE? OKAY.
WE ALSO GOT, IF I MAY, WE ALSO GOT A MEMO THIS MORNING FROM TRICIA ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
AND THEN WE GOT AN ATTORNEY CLIENT MEMO, WHICH I, UM, ABOUT, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TEXTS.
THAT'S RELEVANT TO THE CONVERSATION OF POSSIBLY ONE OTHER COMMISSION, BUT COVERS MOST OF THE AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN I THINK YOU HAD PROPOSED ONE WHICH YOU JUST ADDRESSED AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER LS PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT TO THE CHILDCARE PIECE, RIGHT? THAT'S A MEMBER ELLIS.
AND ON THAT NOTE, WE ARE CONTINUING TO UPDATE AND WORK ON THE LANGUAGE.
SO THERE WILL BE MORE INFORMATION COMING AS WE WORK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT LANGUAGE, UM, ACTS THE WAY THAT, THAT WE ARE INTENDING FOR IT TO ACT WHEN IT'S DONE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ALERT THAT THIS IS THE CHILDCARE AMENDMENT.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HANDLE THAT ONE BEFORE LUNCH AS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON UNDER AMENDMENT AND WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT.
UM, HOLLY'S WHAT I WOULD, YEAH.
UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE I JUST SUBMITTED THE INFORMATION.
I HAVEN'T REVIEWED IT YET, BUT THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE FINANCING ALL WORKS TOGETHER IN OUR INBOX, OKAY.
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TAKE CARE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS. WE CAN GET THOSE OFF THE AGENDA.UH, WE HAVE, UH, UH, THREE ITEMS THAT WERE SET FOR ITEMS OVER SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THEY'RE ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING ITEMS, ITEMS, 54, 55, 56 AND 57.
WE HAVE ALREADY CALLED FOR AND GIVEN THE PUBLIC THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS? 54, 55, 56 AND 57.
AND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL MAKES THE MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND AS A MEMBER OF RENTER REIA SECONDS, ANY DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THOSE OPPOSED IT'S UNANIMOUS ON THE DYESS EXCEPT I CAN'T SEE.
SO IT'S UNANIMOUS ON THE DIOCESE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER.
YOU WANT TO JUST STAND IN HERE FOR A SECOND.
UH, AND THEN AT NOON WE'LL HEAR FROM THE, UH, SPEAKER CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
MY SENSE IS, IS THAT PROBABLY THERE ARE SOME DOCUMENTS THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO READ BEFORE WE GET INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IF WE GOT THINGS FROM OUR ATTORNEYS.
SO MAYBE THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO WOULD BE TO COME BACK AND SAY ONE 30, BUT START IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, AND KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE, UH, AT THAT POINT.
UM, OR ONE 15, LET'S GIVE OURSELVES AN HOUR WHEN THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION SPEAKERS OVER TO, TO BE ABLE TO READ THOSE THINGS, WE'LL START OFF AT EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALRIGHT, SO THANKS FOR THE POOL.
UM, SO HAVE ONE 30, RIGHT? NOT ONE 15.
I DO HAVE TO STEP AWAY SO I CAN BE BACK AT ONE 30, BUT ONE 15, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT ROUGHLY.
WE'LL START BACK UP AT ONE 30.
YES, BUT WE STILL HAVE A CITIZEN COMMUNICATION AT NOON, ONE SPEAKER, UH, FOR THOSE THAT ARE HERE.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE WE WILL CONVENE AT ONE 30 IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UM, AND I WILL READ THE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS SCRIPT BEFORE I RECESS AFTER, UM, THE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION SPEAKER SPEAKS.
UH, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, A, A MOVE TO POSTPONE, UH, ONE OF THE ZONING CASES, WE NEED TO ELEVATE THAT.
UH, OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO, TO, TO SPEAK.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE COLLEAGUES BEFORE WE, UM, COME BACK AT NOON FOR CITIZENS COMMUNICATIONS SAYING NOD AT 1148, WE'RE GOING TO RECESS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL NOON.
WE'LL TAKE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION SPEAKER AND THEN GO INTO RECESS, UH, FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
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IT IS 1201.SO WE'RE GOING TO RECONVENE HERE ON OCTOBER 15TH, 2020 TO CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
[Public Comment (Part 2 of 2)]
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND RECOGNIZE THAT SPEAKER.
UM, SO I WANTED TO SPEAK ON A TOPIC HAVING TO DO WITH, UM, STRATEGIES AND METHODOLOGIES OF GETTING EQUITY.
UM, AND I SPOKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE CREATIVE WORKER GRANTS.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT ONE.
UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M STUDYING AT UT FOR AN HONORS THESIS UNDERGRAD.
UM, BUT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT HOW YOU TEAM MAKES HOUSING DECISIONS AND I'VE BEEN LOOKING.
SO I LOOKED AT WEST CAMPUS AND, UH, HOW HAS UNO, YOU KNOW, COME INTO PLAY OVER THE CALF PAST 20 YEARS? AND ONE THING I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF IS THAT THE STATISTICS OF HOW MANY UNITS HAVE BEEN CREATED, HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS HAVE BEEN CREATED, THEY DO NOT, UH, INCLUDE OR REFERENCE IN ANY WAY, HOW MANY AFFORDABLE UNITS WERE LOST, UM, BY REDEVELOPING.
SO IF YOU BUILD A NEW BUILDING, THERE WAS AN OLD, YOU KNOW, DEPRECIATED APARTMENT COMPLEX, TWO OR THREE STORIES.
AND THOSE WERE NOT, UH, THEY DIDN'T MEET THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THEY WERE CHEAPER TO LIVE IN ON A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
UM, AND INTERESTINGLY, UM, NEITHER THE CITY OF AUSTIN NOR UT HAS KEPT MARKET INFO.
UM, WHAT ARE THE PRICES? HOW MANY UNITS EXISTS ON THE, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT? SO THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT INFORMATION ARE GOING TO BE THE DEVELOPERS.
SO ANYTIME YOU ENTER INTO ONE OF THESE NEGOTIATIONS, UH, THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN WHO HAS THE INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH MONEY, SOMETHING SHOULD BE YOUR, HOW MANY UNITS AND ALL THE HEMMING AND HAWING THAT GO INTO THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
SO, ONE THING THAT I'M LOOKING INTO RIGHT NOW THAT I THINK IS ALSO INTERESTING IS, UM, CAN YOU PROVIDE EQUITY BY THIS METHOD OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OVERLAY? DOES IT WORK THE WAY WE THINK IT WORKS? AND, UM, I HAVE, UH, PROVIDED FOR COUNCIL A COUPLE STUDIES ABOUT REAL ESTATE INVESTMENT TRUSTS THAT LOOK INTO STUDENT HOUSING AND KIND OF THIS IDEA, LIKE I THOUGHT, WHEN Y'ALL PASS THE OUTER WEST CAMPUS, I THOUGHT, WELL, THIS WOULD BE GOOD.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE MORE CAPACITY AND THEY GOT A BETTER DEAL.
YOU KNOW, THE MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME LEVEL THAT IS REQUIRED, OR THAT NUMBER OF UNITS THAT REQUIRES DIFFERENT.
IT'S A, THE CITY GOT A BETTER DEAL, BUT YOU STILL DON'T HAVE THE MARKET INFO.
SO WHY WOULD THESE DEVELOPERS BE WILLING TO DO THIS? AND I THINK IT IS BECAUSE THEY GET MORE MARKET SHARE AND THAT IS WHAT SUPPORTS THE FLOOR OF THE BASIC COSTS OF THE ENTIRE AREA.
AND THAT'S HOW THEY'RE KIND OF PROTECTING THEIR INVESTMENT.
AND I'LL BET YOU ALL KNOW MORE ABOUT REAL ESTATE THAN ME, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, TOVA ASKED ME A QUESTION WHY DOESN'T UT BUILD MORE HOUSING AND I THINK I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, WHICH I'LL PROVIDE AT A LATER TIME.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL THE SPEAKERS.
WE HAVE SIGNED UP FOR A CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
SO AT 1205, WE'RE GOING TO RECESS OUR MEETING TO GO INTO, UM, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, WE'LL MEET AT ONE 30, UH, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW, UH, HAS, UH, WE'LL WORK OUR WAY OVER AND HAVE LUNCH, BUT WORK AWAY OVER ONE 30, UH, TO BE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TAKE UP TWO ITEMS PURSUANT TO SECTIONS FIVE, FIVE, (107) 155-1072.
THE COUNCIL WILL DISCUSS REAL ESTATE AND LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM 21, WHICH IS THE, UH, ACQUISITION OF A CERTAIN PROPERTY AND PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, ONE OH SEVEN ONE AT SEVEN 21 AND PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, ONE OH SEVEN ONE LIKE GOVERNMENT CODE.
WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM NUMBER 80, WHICH IS ESTABLISHING A VISITOR INFORMATION CENTER FUND.
UM, IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTION, UH, WE'LL NEED AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THE GOAL IS TO, UH, GET BACK OUT AS CLOSE AS WE
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CAN TO TWO O'CLOCK FOR, UH, ZONING SPEAKERS WITH THAT COLLEAGUES.UH, WE'RE IN RECESS FOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
WE ARE OUT OF CLOSED SESSION IN CLOSED SESSION.
UH, WE DISCUSSED, UM, REAL ESTATE MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM 21 AND LEGAL MATTERS RELATED ITEMS, 88 AND 21.
WE'RE NOT FINISHED THOSE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION LATER TO COMPLETE DISCUSSIONS THERE.
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UH, BUT WE HAVE COME OUT IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS.DID THEY HANDLE THE CONSENT, UH, AGENDA, UH, WITH RESPECT TO ZONING, UH, JERRY, YOU WANT TO TAKE US THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE SPEAKERS JERRY WITH US.
THEY'RE MOVING HIM OVER MAYOR.
YOU WANTED TO DO THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES, PLEASE.
DO THIS, DO THE CONSENT AGENDA REAL FAST SO PEOPLE CAN HEAR WHAT'S ON CONSENT AND THEN WE'LL DO THE SPEAKERS.
UM, THE FIRST TARGET MIGHT HAVE IS ITEM NUMBER 58, THIS CASE C 14, 2018 ZERO ONE 41.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE SOME SPEAKER, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS CASE, UH, BE APPROVED ON SECOND READING ONLY WITH THE NOTATION THAT HER REQUEST IS THAT THE CASE.COM BACK FOR THIRD READING UNTIL THE COMMERCIAL PLAN REVIEW, UM, ISSUES THAT ARE LAID OUT AND SOME BACKUP THAT WAS POSTED YESTERDAY ARE ADDRESSED.
SO I CAN OFFER THAT CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL.
ON SECOND READING ONLY, UH, MY UNDERSTAND THAT I AM 59 AND 60, THE PECAN SPRINGS CASES, OUR DISCUSSION, UH, NUMBER 61 IS CASEY 14, 2019 ZERO ONE 59.
THIS ITEM HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT ITEM NUMBER 62 IS C 14, 2020 ZERO HUNDRED 80 FOR THE TRAINING KITCHEN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCIL MEMBER FLANNIGAN WOULD LIKE TO PULL THIS CASE.
THE 62 IS PULLED ITEMS. 63 IS K C 14, 2020 1,885.
THIS IS THE LESSON LANE VILLAS CASE.
UM, THIS CASE WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY BOTH THE STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, I WAS GOING TO OFFER IT FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON FIRST READING, BUT WE DO HAVE SOME SPEAKERS WHO ARE SIGNED UP.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE THAT CASE PULLED THEN? YES.
ITEM NUMBER 64 IS CAUSE SEE 14, 2020 ZERO, ZERO 65.
I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT OR APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS ITEM NUMBER 60 65 IS K C 14, 2020 ZERO ZERO 63.
WE DO HAVE SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM MAYOR.
SO YOU WANT TO HAVE IT PULL ALSO? YES.
ITEM NUMBER 66 IS THE KEMP STREET ZONING CASE.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SPEAKERS ON THAT.
SO THAT'LL BE PULLED 66 IS PULLED, I DIDN'T REMEMBER.
67 IS CASE NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 9.01.
THIS IS A STAFF POSTPONEMENT TO OCTOBER 29TH.
AND THE RELATED CASE IS C 14, 2020 ZERO HUNDRED AND 26.
THIS IS ALSO A STEPH POSTPONEMENT REQUEST, OCTOBER 29TH.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE CONSENT AGENDA.
BEFORE WE GET NICE SPEAKERS, CAUSE REMEMBER COSAR MAYOR.
I THINK WE WERE DISCUSSING, UM, UH, INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM 66, UH, SEEING IF WE COULD PUT THAT, UM, CONSENT AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO TALK THROUGH IT, BUT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, BUT THE REASON BEING, UM, THAT WITH VALID PETITION, I THINK YOU WOULD NEED SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND DON'T WANT TO JUST KEEP BRINGING THIS BACK.
UM, AND SO WITH WATCH, UH, TO JUST TO PUT IT, UH, INDEFINITELY OFF UNTIL UNLESS THERE WAS THAT SUPPORT COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR IT TO COME BACK ONTO THE AGENDA.
SO IT'S LOOKING IN THAT CASE THEN THAT 66 WILL BE POSTPONED INDEFINITELY, COUNCILMEMBER HARPER, MADISON.
UM, I THINK MY COLLEAGUE AND I ARE DEFINITELY THINKING ALONG THE SAME MINDS.
UH, IN FACT, I, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND MY LUNCH HOUR TALKING TO SOME FOLKS THE CASE, AND SO A POSTPONEMENT IN YOUR MIND'S EYES, THE BEST PATH FORWARD.
BUT I WONDER IF, UH, IF MY COLLEAGUE WOULD BE WILLING TO, AS OPPOSED TO INDEFINITE CONSIDER A TWO WEEK POSTPONEMENT AND, AND MY VIEW,
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UM, IT MAY TAKE LONGER THAN THOSE TWO WEEKS ARE THERE TO BE THE, UH, THE CLEAR INFORMATION SHARED AMONGST COMMUNITY MEMBERS FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT.UM, ALSO I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A DECENT CHANCE THAT WITHIN THOSE FILAMENTS, UNFORTUNATELY NOT JUST, UM, UH, HOUSES WITHOUT ANY AFFORDABILITY PROTECTIONS COULD BE BUILT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS, UH, UH, I COULDN'T SUPPORT US JUST BRINGING THIS BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND, AND, UH, PEOPLE'S ENERGY GOING TO, UH, COMING AND TESTIFYING HERE.
I WANT PEOPLE'S ENERGY TO BE, TO GO AND MEET WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS AND MEET WITH THE APPLICANTS AND WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE COULD SUPPORT.
UM, SO I WOULD ONLY WANT TO BRING THIS BACK TO THE AGENDA, UH, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THE SERIOUS ISSUES THAT PEOPLE ARE, ARE TALKING ABOUT.
I THINK A LOT OF THEM BASED ON SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE ACTUAL PROJECT IN FRONT OF US, I WOULD RATHER US BRING UP AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT WOULD MAKE IT SO THAT IF THERE ISN'T A REAL SUPPORTER AGREEMENT THAT WE WOULDN'T BE BACK HERE IN TWO WEEKS, UH, WITH DOZENS OF PEOPLE CONTINUING TO TAKE OUT TIME FROM THEIR WORK DAY, IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO POSTPONE IT AGAIN.
SO I'D RATHER JUST MAKE IT INDEFINITE AND THEN DEAL WITH IT.
UH, IF THERE IS, IF, IF SOME PEOPLE COME TOGETHER AROUND A PLAN THAT MAKES SENSE TO THEM, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UM, AND SO ULTIMATELY I'LL BE SUPPORTIVE.
UM, I DID THINK THAT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WITHIN THE COURSE OF THAT TWO WEEKS, ESPECIALLY CAUSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY DEDICATED SO MUCH TIME TO THE CONVERSATION.
UM, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT JUST BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE SOME MORE THOROUGH AND COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATIONS, BOTH WITH THE APPLICANT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT, UM, I WILL SUPPORT INDEFINITELY.
YEAH, I, I WOULD TOO, BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY OF, UH, OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, HAVE, UH, 17 UNITS, SO ARE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE.
AND BASICALLY THE EMAILS ARE STARTING TO CHANGE A LITTLE BIT NOW THAT I'VE BEEN GETTING, UH, AT THE BEGINNING, EVERYBODY WAS AGAINST IT.
BUT NOW THAT THEY'RE FINDING OUT THAT THERE IS AFFORDABILITY INVOLVED WITH THIS, UH, HABITAT WAS GOING TO BUILD THESE, THESE HOMES FOR, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A DEEP, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY TO, SO I WOULD HATE TO SEE IT GO DOWN AND LOOSE TODAY.
SO I'M WANTING TO INDEFINITELY POSTPONE IT.
AND I THINK ONCE THE COMMUNITY SEE WHAT WE'RE OFFERING, THAT'S BEING OFFERED, THAT, THAT THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL REAL LARGE.
THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT OR ON COPPER.
WE READY TO HEAR FROM SPEAKERS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, JUST FOR ANY SPEAKERS TALKING THEN THAT, UM, THAT WE WOULD, UH, OH, I GUESS WE WOULDN'T TAKE A WEEK.
WHEN WOULD SPEAKER SPEAK ON THIS POINT? JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THEM THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IT'S OFF THE AGENDA UNTIL, OR UNLESS WE SEE SIGNIFICANT SUPPORT.
OF COURSE, THE BIG RISK, UM, THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW IS THAT, UH, IT'S CURRENTLY ENTITLED FOR 0% AFFORDABILITY.
UM, AND SO IF SOMETHING DOESN'T GET WORKED OUT THEN, UM, AND WE'LL GET 0% AFFORDABILITY INSTEAD OF 50%, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THAT IS AN ACTION ON THE ITEMS. SO WE HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK, UH, BUT IT WOULDN'T APPEAR NECESSARY FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK OR TO SPEAK ON THE MERITS IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO, SINCE THE ACTION BEING TAKEN TODAY IS GOING TO BE TO POSTPONE THIS CASE INDEFINITELY.
IT'S WHEREVER HARPER, MADISON.
I APPRECIATE YOU RECOGNIZING ME.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES SENTIMENT THERE.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, DURING THE COURSE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT I WAS ABLE TO HAVE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WAS ABLE TO ASCERTAIN.
NUMBER ONE, UM, ADVOCACY CAN GO WRONG.
LET'S JUST SAY THAT THERE WERE SOME VERY IMPORTANT, LIKE PERSONALIZED EMAILS THAT PEOPLE TOOK THE TIME AND THE EFFORT TO DRAFT FOR MY ATTENTION THAT I DIDN'T SEE.
AND I WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN HAD THEY NOT SENT ME AN ADDITIONAL EMAIL TO TELL ME, TO LOOK FOR THE ORIGINAL EMAIL, UM, AND W WITHOUT DISCOURAGING PEOPLE FROM BEING INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THIS IS WHERE ADVOCACY GOES WRONG.
WHEN YOUR SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED TO ME WITH YOUR SPECIFIC AND EXPLICIT CONCERNS AND CONSIDERATIONS GET BURIED UNDER 142 EMAILS THAT ARE JUST A DRAFT EMAIL THAT PEOPLE COPIED AND PASTED, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND SO MY HOPE IS THAT MOVING FORWARD, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTIVITY, UM, THAT WE REALLY SORT OF SHIFT RECALIBRATE WHAT ADVOCACY ON THESE ZONING
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CASES LOOKS LIKE, SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE YOUR EMAILS.I, I WANT VERY MUCH TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PERSONALLY RESPOND TO PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, CONSIDERATIONS, BUT I CAN'T DO IT.
IF YOUR EMAIL GETS BURIED IN THE HUNDREDS OF DRAFT OR FORM EMAILS THAT IT'S PROBLEMATIC.
AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT IN CONSIDERATION AROUND POSTPONEMENT AND, UM, HAVING THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY DURING THE COURSE OF MY LUNCH BREAK, I DID NOT EAT FOOD, BUT I DID GET TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND REALLY THEIR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND CONSIDERATIONS, AND HAVE THEM TELL ME SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEIR NAME IS.
SO I CAN FIND THEIR EMAIL THAT WAS BURIED UNDERNEATH ALL THE OTHER EMAILS.
UM, I FEEL LIKE A POSTPONE WOOD OFFER US THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE VOICES TO BE HEARD.
UM, I ALSO FEEL LIKE A POSTPONEMENT WOULD OFFER US THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHAT MY COLLEAGUE HAS POINTED OUT.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING BASED IN REALITY.
THE REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, I WAS TAKING THE TASK BY WAY OF USING THE NUMBER 800,000 PEOPLE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMPS IN THE AREA ARE VALUED AT BLAH AND THE, YOU KNOW, PER SQUARE FOOT IS VALUED AT X.
I DIDN'T PULL THAT NUMBER OUT OF THIN AIR.
I PULLED THAT NUMBER OUT OF AN ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE.
ONE WITH A HOUSE THAT'S DIRECTLY, LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE.
AND THEN JUST TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN D ONE, THAT NUMBER, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, THE HOUSE THAT WAS THREE 54 YEARS AGO, IT'S SEVEN 98.
NOW THAT NUMBER IS NOT MAKE-BELIEVE THAT NUMBER IS THAT EVENTUALITY.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS FIVE LOANS TO GET SEPARATED, BUT TWO UNITS PER LOT, THAT'S 10, THE 10 UNITS.
THERE'S NO BAKED IN AFFORDABILITY BETWEEN 60 AND 80% MFI.
AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE POSTPONING THIS, MY HOPE IS THAT WE DON'T LOSE IT.
MY HOPE IS THAT EVERYBODY COMES TO THE TABLE AND IS, AND ARE RATHER WILLING AND OPEN TO GOOD FAITH NEGOTIATIONS TO WHERE WE DON'T LOSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OUT OF 33 UNITS, LOSE 17 UNITS AT BETWEEN 60 AND 80% AFFORDABLE.
UM, I KNOW THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NUANCED, IT'S SORT OF, I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT GET LOST.
UM, AND I BROUGHT UP DURING THE COURSE OF THE WORK SESSION, AND I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE.
I KNOW MY FAMILY IS NOT THE ONLY ONE, BUT I USE MY FAMILY.
I WOULD LIKE FOR MY FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO LIVE ON A CAMP, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE FOR MY FAMILY TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN AN AREA THAT IS GROWING AND DEVELOPING AND HAS UNITS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AT 60 TO 80% MFI, I AM THE MIDDLE.
I MEAN, THERE ARE, THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS AROUND THE PORTABILITY THAT RUN THE GAMUT IN TERMS OF THE SPECTRUM.
I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT EVERYBODY'S IN THE RELATIVITY OF AFFORDABILITY.
AND I, I REALLY, I HOPE THAT DURING THE COURSE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, REAL DELIBERATE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS THAT DON'T LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR 17 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE EVOLUTION OF THE CURRENT.
I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE NOW MADE A MOTION TO POSTPONE IT.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY NOT DISCUSS IT.
AND I HEAR THAT IT JUST, I WAS GIVING PEOPLE JUST THE ALLOWANCE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT.
AND I THINK THAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTED THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO AS SPEAKERS, WE'RE GETTING READY TO SPEAK TO, TO, TO KNOW WHERE WE WERE HEADED AND WHAT THEY WERE THINKING.
UH, CASPER TOVO, WE'RE SPEAKING THAT'S NO.
SO THAT'S SQUEAKY KIND OF BEST VOICE.
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COME BACK IN.CLARK, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? THERE ARE 50
COULD IT BE THAT SOME OF THEM DECIDED NOT TO SPEAK, GIVEN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE TODAY? I DON'T WANT TO START.
I KNOW KATHY WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE STARTED.
WE CAN HEAR YOU CATHY, AND THAT SAME KIND OF SPED UP VOICE.
DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND START THE SPEAKERS? YES.
UH, WHY DON'T YOU, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR KATHY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER TEXT OR CALL ONE OF US TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT WHAT IT IS THAT SHE'S HOPING THAT OH, SHE'S CALLING IN NOW.
AND I ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED US TO START AND SHE GAVE ME THE THUMBS UP.
SO I'M GOING TO ABIDE BY THAT.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL THE SPEAKERS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN PORT THOMPSON.
UH, I AM SPEAKING TO YOU ITEM NUMBER 58.
UH, I AM A RESIDENT, UH, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AT ONE NINE ZERO, EXCUSE ME, INVERNESS BOULEVARD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO START BY WITHDRAWING MY OPPOSITION TO THE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN FORWARDED, UH, WHEN I SIGNED UP, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ALL THAT DOCUMENTATION ON HAND.
UH, BUT AFTER REVIEW, I THINK IT IS A SATISFACTORY, UH, PATH FORWARD.
UH, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND TO EXPRESS MY FRUSTRATION WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
UM, MY FAMILY AND I JUST, THIS YEAR FINISHED A VERY SIMILAR RENOVATION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE STREET AND INCLUDING A SMALL ADDITION TO OUR HOUSE AND THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND TIME AND FRANKLY MONEY THAT IT TOOK TO WORK EVERYTHING THROUGH THE SYSTEM, UH, PROPERLY BUT SUBSTANTIAL, UM, FROM GENERATING ALL THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION TO, UH, PROVIDING CLARIFICATION, UH, TO THE PERMANENT DEPARTMENT AND HAVING THE WORK PERFORMED TO THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY HAS SET AND HAVING THE INSPECTION PERFORMED, UH, TO VERIFY ALL THAT, UH, REPRESENTED A SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT, UM, AND QUITE A BIT OF FRUSTRATION, FRANKLY, I THINK AT THE END OF IT.
UM, AND TO SEE THAT NOW WE'RE HAVING TO REALLY RIDE HERD ON MS. PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET.
I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS THAT WE WERE, UH, IS VERY, VERY FRUSTRATING.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE APPROPRIATE FORUM TO WORK THROUGH THAT FRUSTRATION.
UM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS, UH, A COMMITTEE ON HOUSING AND, AND SIMILAR AFFAIRS THAT, UM, I'M HAPPY TO, UM, SPEAK TO, UM, TO HELP MAYBE RESOLVE THIS KIND OF THING IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, MY FRUSTRATION IS, IS NOTED AND IT WAS OUT THERE.
UM, BUT, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE PATH FORWARD, I THINK THIS IS SATISFACTORY.
UH, THE LETTER LAID OUT BY THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, UM, I THINK SHOULD ADEQUATELY, UM, MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY IS CONSTRUCTED TO THE APPROPRIATE STANDARDS.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL PROVIDE AN IMPROVEMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE FOR YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS EMILY JOLLY AND I LIVE AT TWO 17 LESSEN LANE.
I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM 63, THE TWO 19 LESSON LANE PROPOSAL.
I LIVED DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND I OPPOSE THE CURRENT REZONING PROPOSAL TO THE EXTENT THAT IT WOULD ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD 17 NEW HOMES.
NEXT DOOR TO ME, I'VE LIVED ON LESSON
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LANE FOR NEARLY NINE YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN LOTS OF CHANGES AS AUSTIN HAS GROWN AND PROPERTY OWNERSHIP COSTS.AND THIS AREA HAS SKYROCKETED ONE THING THAT'S BEEN CONSTANT.
IF THE CONSTRAINED NATURE OF THIS PARTICULAR DEAD END STREET FROM A TRAFFIC FLOW AND CONGESTION STANDPOINT, ADDING 17 NEW PROPERTIES, WHICH IS MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF OCCUPIED HOMES THAT EXISTS ON LESSEN LANE TODAY WILL SEVERELY EXACERBATE THESE ISSUES.
MANY TIMES I'VE HAD TO CALL APD FOR CARS, BLOCKING MY DRIVEWAY.
I DEAL WITH CARS CLOGGING THE STREET WHERE IT DEAD ENDS, RIGHT AT TWO 19 LESSON.
AND ON ANY GIVEN DAY, I'VE COUNTED AS MANY AS 300 CARS PULLING INTO MY DRIVEWAY TO TURN AROUND.
IT'S NOT MERELY AN INCONVENIENCE.
IT'S RESULTED IN PROPERTY DESTRUCTION DAMAGE TO MY DRIVEWAY AND LANDSCAPING.
THIS SINGLE STREET IS SIMPLY NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SIZE.
I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS COMMENTS.
THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES HAVE MADE WHEN WE'VE ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION, THEY'VE REPEATEDLY CLAIMED THAT THIS REZONING PROPOSAL WILL ALLOW THEM TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES, BUT BURDENING THIS SMALL LOT WITH 17 HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOMES WILL DO NOTHING TO SOLVE AUSTIN'S AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.
AND I FIND IT EXTREMELY DISINGENUOUS FOR THEM TO SUGGEST THAT PACKING IN THESE CONDOS PRICED AT $500,000 OR HIGHER WILL HELP ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TREES THEY PLANNED TO REMOVE, BUT DESPITE THEIR PROMISES, THEY HAVEN'T SENT ME ANYTHING.
I DON'T OPPOSE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I DO EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE HONEST, ALL OF THE RULES AND BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THIS DEVELOPER'S TRACK RECORD SO FAR IS NOT REASSURING SINCE THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
THEY'VE CLEARED THE LOT AND USE IT AS A LAY DOWN YARD FOR OTHER PROJECTS, WHICH MEANS I'M CONSTANTLY HEARING HEAVY TRAPS AND BOBCAT'S BACKING UP LOADING AND UNLOADING MATERIALS OFTEN BEFORE 7:00 AM, PLEASE CONSIDER THE IMPACT AND THE BURDEN OF THIS REZONING PROPOSAL TO THE RESIDENTS HERE AND LIMIT THE NUMBER OF HOMES THEY'RE ALLOWED TO CONSTRUCT.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION, DOUG CALMLY, AND IT HAS PEOPLE SPEAK AS, AS PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING.
JUST WANT TO POINT OUT AGAIN THAT I AM NUMBER 66.
UH, THE MOTIONS ARE GOING TO BE TO POSTPONE INDEFINITELY.
SO IF YOU CHOOSE TO SPEAK ON THAT, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE QUESTION OF THE POSTPONE PLEASE? THANK YOU.
UH, MY NAME IS DOUG CONLEY AND I SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF TRAVIS COUNTY MUD THOR.
AND I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION OF THE REZONING FOR THE PIER PROPERTY.
UH, THIS DISTRICT OPERATES TWO WATER TREATMENT PLANTS SERVING A TOTAL OF SEVEN UTILITY DISTRICTS IN BARTON CREEK.
THE DISTRICT ALSO PROVIDES WHOLESALE WATER SERVICES TO TWO ON AFFILIATED DISTRICTS.
RAW WATER INTAKE FOR THE DISTRICT IS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PURE PROPERTY.
TCEQ REGULATIONS, PROHIBIT OPERATION OF A PUBLIC BOAT DOCK WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET OF RAW WATER INTAKE.
THE DOCS AT THE PAIR HAVE NOT BEEN OPERATIONAL FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS, CHANGING THE ZONING TO COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL TO ALLOW THE EXISTING DOCK TO BE RENOVATED.
AND FOR BOAT DOCK OPERATIONS TO COMMENCE AS A PRIMARY USE COULD CAUSE THE TCEQ FOR REAL, THAT THE DISTRICT'S INTAKE IS IN VIOLATION OF THE TC TWO, UH, REGULATIONS AND OUR DISTRICT CANNOT TAKE ANY RISK OF HAVING TO DISCONTINUE THE USE OF THE RAW WATER INTAKE IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, UH, AND AS SUCH WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS REASON.
MEISENBACH HUH? THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
UM, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON 66, BUT I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS.
I WAS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON THE KEMP STREET REZONING, BUT I GUESS IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS GETTING POSTPONED.
UM, I WILL MENTION THAT I HOPE THAT IT BEING POSTPONED, THAT THERE WILL BE AN OUTLET AND OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES BECAUSE THIS IS TRULY IMPORTANT TO ALL THE HISPANIC, BLACK
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AND INISH PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND RESIDE IN THE EAST AUSTIN AREA.THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED PROVIDING HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS A VERY LOOSE TERM BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD HALF A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES OR CONDOS IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID-19.
WHEN A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR HOUSES AND HOMES ARE OUT OF JOBS, WE NEED MORE ACCESSIBILITY AND ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE.
WE DON'T NEED TO BE GASLIGHTED INTO THE FACADE THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS FOR ALL PEOPLE IN AUSTIN.
WHEN WE KNOW THAT GENTRIFICATION CONTINUES TO BE ON A RISE AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE IN BILL AUSTIN OVER THE YEARS ARE GETTING SQUISHED OUT BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD PROPERTY TAXES.
SO I HOPE THAT THIS POSTPONEMENT IS AN ACCESSIBILITY TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING, BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A PLACE OF POWER TO LISTEN TO THE CITY OF AUSTIN AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
AND WE ONLY HAVE OUR VOICES AND YOU GUYS HAVE OUR BOATS.
SO PLEASE DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY OF AUSTIN AND THE KEMP STREET REZONING ISSUE THAT I KNOW IS GETTING POSTPONED.
HOWEVER, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY WHO LIVES THERE.
I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT IF THIS ITEM POSTPONED TO DEFINITELY WORK TO COME BACK, THEN ABSOLUTELY IT WOULD BE POSTED IN A WAY THAT WOULD GIVE THE COMMUNITY NOTICE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
WE WANT TO SHOW, I SEND IT TO THE CITY CLERK.
TOP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE ITEM IS BEING POSTPONED AND THEREFORE THERE IS AN ACCIDENT.
I WANT TO SHOW THE VIDEO FOR MY THREE MINUTES.
GO AHEAD AND LET HER SHOW THE VIDEO, PLEASE.
YOU CAN WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE.
IT'S VERY PLEASANT TO WALK UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
YOU GET TO KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS.
WE'RE LUCKY WE HAVE EACH OTHER CAUSE RIGHT NOW IS WHEN WE NEED ALL THE HELP.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE STILL BESIDES ME THAT HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE AT THE SAME TIME WHEN I WAS BORN THERE, THEIR PARENTS WERE HERE.
MY HUSBAND, THIS WAS HIS PARENTS' HOUSE.
I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR, THAT HOUSE WE USED TO BELONG TO.
THE GRANDPARENTS IT'S BEEN, BUT 80, 85 YEARS.
THAT'S HOW LONG THIS HOME'S BEEN HERE.
AND THIS IS THE, THE LIGHT AT FIVE OH EIGHT CAMP, WHICH THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO DEVELOP 33 CONDOS ON HERE.
BUT I CAN IMAGINE 30 SOMETHING UNITS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SO FAR ONLY HAS 20 SOMETHING HOUSES.
99% WERE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE.
OH, WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1953.
NO, BECAUSE WE LIKE WHERE WE ARE WEAK.
IF YOU JUST LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS, AND DON'T TRY TO INCORPORATE ANYMORE RAISING OF TAXES OR ANY MORE TRAFFIC OR COULD IT BE MORE CRIME? WHO KNOWS? I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'D LIKE, IT JUST LIKE IT IS.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, EVERYTHING'S GOING UP FOR HIGH THAT WE CAN'T STAY HERE.
IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE THAT COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO CITY HALL, YOU LISTEN TO THEIR CONVERSATIONS, YOU GO TO THEIR MEETINGS AND EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT WHEN YOU TALK TO NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS THAT, UH, THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT AFFORDABLE TO THEM.
I KNOW THAT, UH, ONCE THOSE CONDOMS COME IN ATTACHED TO, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO HIRE SOMEBODY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S BEING DISPLACED.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE OUR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET, SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET ONE OF THESE CONDOS BECAUSE THE RANGE IS BETWEEN 60% TO 80%.
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AFFORDABLE.SO OUR NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET, WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET ONE OF THOSE UNITS.
THEY CALL IT AFFORDABILITY, UNLOCKED TO US.
THERE'S NO AFFORDABILITY HERE AND THAT DOESN'T HELP IN THIS DISPLACEMENT.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GET RID OF THE PEOPLE.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT, WHICH I DON'T THINK IT'S TRUE.
IT'S BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS ACTUALLY TOOK CARE OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ACTUALLY WORKED TO TAKE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY.
MAYBE IT WOULD WORK IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
IF, IF SOMEBODY WERE TO BUILD CONDOS THERE AND HAVE SOME AT 60% MFI, THEN THAT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP OVER THERE.
BUT HERE WHERE IT'S LESS THAN 40%, IT WOULD DEFINITELY NOT, NOT HELP.
HEY, SPEAKER, BY THE WAY, AS POSTED THE ZONING AND ZONING IS TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.
COUNSEL, NUMBER HARPER, MADISON, MARY.
I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR, UM, ABOUT PROCEDURE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT US HAVING DIALOGUE ABOUT THE CASE.
I, I THOUGHT WE HADN'T VOTED ON IT YET.
I THOUGHT WE COULD CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CASE UNTIL WE ACTUALLY VOTE TO POSTPONE IT.
BUT IF I'M WRONG, CAN YOU CORRECT ME? BECAUSE I MAY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE SPEAKERS COMMENTARY.
I WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TURN.
NO, THERE'LL BE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UP FOR THE SPEAKERS.
HOW ARE YOU? UH, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SEE PETER SIMON LATE.
I'M ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, UM, IN MONTOPOLIS WHO OPPOSES, UM, THIS UPSETTING MEASURE, ITEM 66.
I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE POSTPONED THINGS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU DOING THE RIGHT THING AND ENCOURAGING DEVELOPERS TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN MISSING HERE SO FAR.
WE'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH KEPT IN THE DARK.
UM, I LIVED DOWN THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT AND OPPOSE THESE MEASURES.
AND I'D LIKE TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VALUE OF COMMUNITY.
UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
IT'S ONE OF THE LAST AREAS IN AUSTIN WHERE GENERATIONS OF AUSTINITES DO LIVE TOGETHER AS COMMUNITY.
A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS GREW UP ON THIS STREET IN HOUSES THAT BELONGED TO, UH, THEIR GRANDPARENTS.
AND, UH, SOME OF THE STREETS ARE NAMED AFTER THE FAMILIES THAT ARE STILL HERE TODAY.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THIS WAS DIRT ROADS AND FORT WAS ANNEXED BY THE CITY.
UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYWHERE ELSE IN AUSTIN WHERE THAT'S STILL TRUE.
IT'S, UH, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL THING AND SOMETHING WE SHOULD ALL STRIVE TO, UM, LOOK AFTER AND CARE FOR.
UM, THERE'S LITTLE COTTAGES WITH PORCHES AND ALONG STREET STREET WHERE, UM, THERE'S NO CROSS STREETS.
SO IT'S REALLY GREAT FOR WALKING AND TALKING TO YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY BENEFIT THAT EXISTS HERE THAT YOU REALLY CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON, UM, ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE I LIVE.
UH, THERE'S A REALLY SPECIAL RESIDENT, MISS ANNIE, WHO RECENTLY CELEBRATED HER HUNDRED AND FIFTH BIRTHDAY.
UM, SHE'S TOLD US THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT TO LEAVE.
UM, WHAT'S EVIDENT TO US IS THAT SHE'S ABLE TO STAY HERE IN HER HOME, THAT SHE'S LIVED IN SINCE THE FORTIES, BECAUSE SHE HAS TO SUPPORT A FAMILY AND COMMUNITY AROUND HER SUPPORT PROVIDE CARE.
AND OUR NEIGHBORS ARE OBVIOUSLY UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE.
A LOT OF THEM ARE ESSENTIAL WORKERS.
SOME OF THEM ARE DISABLED AND SENIORS AND THEY ARE THE EXPERTS ON DISPLACEMENT THAT YOU SHOULD BE LISTENING TO.
THEY UNDERSTAND BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE, HOW IT WORKS.
AND WHEN THE PRESSURE TO SELL FROM RISING TAXES MEETS THE PRICE POINT.
THAT MAKES THEM FEEL THEY HAVE NO CHOICE, BUT TO LOOK ELSEWHERE THE LAND TITLED SITUATION.
AND THEY'RE UNDER A LOT OF PRESSURE TO SELL FROM SPECULATIVE REALTORS WHEN SPECULATORS LEARNED THAT THEY MAY NOW BUY UP MONTOPOLIS, SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND PUT THEM TO SF SIX WITHOUT THE NEED TO WIN ANY SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UH, PARTICULARLY GREG CASAR AND NATASHA HARPER MADISON REGARDING LAST MINUTE, UH, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF SOME OF THE VOICES IN THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I REALLY, I HOPE THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY OPEN CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN IN SOME OF THESE LOTS.
UH, I OPPOSE ALL REZONING OF SLOTS.
UM, BUT WHEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS INVOLVED, I THINK THAT THERE'S ALWAYS A CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT EVERY LITTLE BIT THAT WE PUSHED BACK ON THIS MORE AND MORE AFFORDABILITY KEPT COMING OUT OF IT AND WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT EVER CAME TO ENOUGH AFFORDABILITY.
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HARDER ON BOTH SIDES, WE CAN GET MORE AFFORDABLE, MORE AND MORE AFFORDABLE BELOW 50% MFI, PERHAPS SEASONS.SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL FOR JUST CONSIDERING THIS IN THE NUANCED WAY THAT IT IS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN, MAYBE THIS LAW ISN'T ACTUALLY BUILDABLE IN THAT WAY BECAUSE OF SPECIFIC CONDITIONS ON THE LOT, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT CONVERSATIONS CAN HAVE.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT START FOR A TWO WAY, NOT A ONE WAY CONVERSATION.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE COMMUNICATION IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU, PHILIP SHELDON, MR. SHELDON, PLEASE UNMUTE CYNTHIA VASQUEZ.
UM, MY NAME IS CYNTHIA, AND THOUGH I APPRECIATE THE, THE NEW CONSIDERATION ON ITEM 66.
I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE A WORD UP ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
THIS HAS HAPPENED TOO MANY TIMES AND THERE'S A LACK OF TRUST.
I'M A CHICANO NATIVE AESOP'S TONIGHT KNOWN TO GENTRIFIERS AS A UNICORN.
BUT IF YOU'RE FROM HERE BORN AND RAISED, I CAN SAY HOW MANY THOUGHTS AND ODIE AND YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS TODAY.
I'M HERE AGAIN TO OPPOSE EAST AUSTIN.
UPZONING IN THE MISUSE OF UNLOCKED AFFORDABILITY TO ATTEMPT TO CONVINCE MORE OF OUR EAST BOSTON COMMUNITY AND RESIDENT EXPERTS THAT THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT IN QUESTION ON 10TH STREET INTO THE TOP COMMUNITY IS NEEDED.
MOST OF YOU ON THE DIASTOLIC IS STRONG PUBLIC POSITION AND OFTEN EQUITY DISCUSSIONS AND ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.
HOWEVER, I DON'T SEE THAT STRONG ENERGY IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SECTOR.
THERE IS A COMPLETE DISREGARD FOR THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE DONE THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE NOT.
TELL ME, HOW DO YOU PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN YOU WANT TO RESPECT AND SUPPORT PEOPLE OF COLOR.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WORRIED ABOUT WHERE YOUR FAMILY WOULD LIVE OR WONDER IF YOUR MOM WAS REALLY HAPPY ABOUT DYING IN A HOUSE INSTEAD OF THE HOME WHERE SHE CARED FOR HER KIDS FOR MOST OF HER LIFE? WHY AM I HERE AGAIN WITH MY EAST SIDE NEIGHBORS ARGUING ABOUT ALL THE DAMAGE AND DISPLACEMENT, THIS PARTICULAR ZONING WILL CAUSE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC I WAS PRESENT IN SEVERAL MEETINGS WHERE I LISTENED TO AT LEAST THREE OF YOU, INCLUDING YOU MIRROR TELL SOME OF US EAST SIDERS, THAT LAND DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING AND THE $400,000 CONDOS WILL NOT AFFECT OUR PROPERTY TAXES.
STOP SAYING THAT WHEN WE ARE LIVING PROOF, WALKING, BREATHING, AND SHOWING UP AT THESE CITY, CALCULATING EVERY SINGLE TIME TO SHOW YOU OTHERWISE, WE'VE GONE FROM HOMEOWNERS TO RENTERS, TO COUCH SURFERS, INEQUITY AND RACISM ARE DEHUMANIZING.
THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME UP, ZONING THEM ON TOP OF THE SWAMP, MISLEADING AND HIDING UNDER THE GUIDES OF UNLOCK.
AFFORDABILITY IS DEHUMANIZING THE COMMUNITY, TALKING OF UNDOING, WHITE SUPREMACY, THINGS POPULAR, BUT WE STILL LOSE, ESPECIALLY WITHIN LAND DEVELOPMENT AND DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FOUR.
IN HINDSIGHT, I THOUGHT WE WERE FOCUSED ON EQUITABLE OUTCOMES, APPARENTLY THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO THE EAST SIDE WHEN A BIG CONTRIBUTOR, BIG CONTRIBUTING CONTRIBUTOR, LIKE THE DG GROUP HAVE THEIR EYE ON DISMANTLING ANOTHER RESILIENT COMMUNITY WITH COUNCIL SUPPORT, SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE FAMILIES THAT YOU SATURDAY WHO HAD TO LEAVE AND SHOUT OUT TO THOSE WHO REMAINED SEAN ABBOTT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IS SHAWN ABBOTT FROM THE LAW FIRM, ARBORIST AND BROWN.
I SERVE AS GENERAL COUNSEL, THE TRAVIS COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
NUMBER 20, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 65 RELATING TO THE REZONING AND THE PURE PROPERTY LARGEST.
YOUR 20 PROVIDES A FRESH WATER SUPPLY THAT ROB ROY SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS JUST WEST OF THE CITY, THE SOURCE OF THE WATER SUPPLIES LIKE AUSTIN DISTRICTS, WHILE WATER INTAKES ARE LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 800 FEET FROM THE BOAT DOCKS AT THE PIER.
OUR CONCERNS WITH THE REZONING IS THE POTENTIAL FOR GASOLINE SALES.
THAT THE PROPERTY, AS YOU WILL HEAR, THE DISTRICT ENGINEER FROM WATER DISTRICT 20 HAS STUDIED THE SITUATION AND HAS GENERATED A REPORT THAT CONCLUDES THAT THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS FOR A SITUATION THAT COULD CONTAMINATE THE DISTRICT'S WATER SUPPLY.
THEY'LL SPEAK MORE WITH MORE SPECIFICITY RELATING TO WHY BENZINE AND DRINKING WATER IS DANGEROUS.
AND ONE OF THE CONDITIONS NEAR THE PIER, UNLIKE AUSTIN PROVIDE FOR POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION.
WE'VE WORKED WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT AND ATTEMPTING TO NEGOTIATE THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT REGARDING THE FUTURE USE OF THE PEER PROPERTY.
GENERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK WE'VE REACHED AN ACCORD IN EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE SALE OF GASOLINE.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE.
AND WHILE OUR DISTRICT ENGINEER CANNOT PROVIDE A SPECIFIC CALCULATION RELATING TO THE PROBABILITY OF A CATASTROPHIC EVENT, HE HAS CONCLUDED THAT SUCH SESSION EVENT IS
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CERTAINLY POSSIBLE.IF GASOLINE SALES WERE TO RESUME AT THE PIER, WHAT COMPOUNDS OUR CONCERN IS THAT IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO TEST FOR BENZENE CONTAMINATION AND DRINKING WATER IN REAL TIME.
THUS, IF A SIGNIFICANT SPILL OCCURRED, THAT WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY REPORTED, THE DISTRICT'S DRINKING WATER COULD BE IN DANGER OF BEING CONTAMINATED.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION, THE PROHIBITION OF GASOLINE SALES WITH THE PEER PROPERTY.
THINK KATHY WAS TRYING TO SAY WE'RE GOOD TO KEEP GOING.
I REALIZED THAT THE MOTION WAS POSTPONED.
UM, SO I WANNA JUST KIND OF MAYBE JUST SPEAK TO COUNCIL, WOMAN HARBOR, MADISON AND COUNCIL MEMBER CASAR, WHO BROUGHT THIS UP.
AND I WANT TO RESPECT YOUR DESIRE FOR AFFORDABILITY.
UM, UH, COUNCIL, WOMAN, HARPER, MADISON, YOU MENTIONED THE 17 AFFORDABLE UNITS AND HOW, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD BE, WE COULD BE IN DANGER OF LOSING THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK AFFORDABILITY IS AN IMPORTANT, UM, DISCUSSION THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY OVER HERE IS HAVING.
I JUST, I PROVIDED SOME, SOME IMAGES FOR YOU.
UH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, IT'S PAGE 64 OF THE STAFF REPORT.
THAT'S IMAGES OF WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SOIL OVER HERE, WHEN YOU CLEAR CUT IT ON THE SLOPE THAT THAT EXISTS.
UM, AND I'M, I'M JUST REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT MECHANISMS THE CITY HAS IN PLACE TO DETERMINE WHAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE IS GOING TO BE CAUSED WHEN YOU SUBDIVIDE THESE LOCKS.
SO THIS RIGHT NOW IS ONE LOT, AND A LOT OF IT IS SERVING AS A, AS A BUFFER.
UM, IT'S SOAKING UP RAINWATER.
AND IF YOU BUILT ALL THAT IMPERVIOUS COVER OVER A LAUNCH LIKE FIVE AWAY, ALL THAT IS GOING TO GO BACK OVER A LANDFILL, WHICH IS HARBORING TOXIC CHEMICALS BACK THERE.
I MEAN, HAS THE CITY DONE A STUDY ON THE VIABILITY OF THAT LANDFILL CAP? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT LEECHES OUT INTO THE PARK? I WANT YOU TO GET OUT OF THE PARK BACK IN 2015, THERE WAS A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT GOT WASHED AWAY.
IF YOU WERE TO WANDER DOWN THERE TODAY, IT'S STILL WASHED AWAY.
THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REPAIR IT.
THAT'S BECAUSE THE SOIL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALL SAND AND IT IS HIGHLY EROSIVE.
SO BEFORE YOU EVEN HAVE ANY CONVERSATIONS, SUBDIVISIONS, YOU REALLY NEED TO STUDY WHAT EFFECT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME, UH, MAYOR.
UH, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE GLASS CALLERS CONCERNS.
UM, YES, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY HAVE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT WOULD HELP WITH.
I WAS HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE VERY LEAST TODAY, WHAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH WAS HAVING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICERS BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THESE ENVIRONMENT CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY AROUND, UM, IMPERVIOUS COVER WATERSHED ISSUES, FLOODING ISSUES.
SO IT'S NOT LOST ON ME, WHAT YOU ALL'S CONCERNS AND CONSIDERATIONS ARE.
UM, AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO, TO POINT THAT OUT.
AND, AND BEFORE PROCEDURALLY, HOW WOULD THIS WORK IF WE WANT IT TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT DURING THE COURSE OF OUR DELIBERATION, HOW DO WE DO THAT PRIOR TO THE VOTE WHERE LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER POOL POINTED OUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO VOTE ON THE POSTPONEMENT, WE, IT PROBABLY IS NOT APPROPRIATE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, BUT PRIOR TO, UM, WITHOUT US DELIBERATING, BECAUSE WE ARE CONSIDERING THE POSTPONEMENT, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE AND OR APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT I OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE ASKED TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS, BE ABLE TO OFFER THAT INFORMATION AS A POINT OF CONSIDERATION FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE DURING THE COURSE OF THE POSTPONEMENT, FOR WHATEVER DURATION THAT LASTS? WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I'M SORRY.
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I HAD GOTTEN SOMETHING FOR MY STAFF, COUNSELOR, HER PREDNISONE.THE QUESTION WAS, IS IT APPROPRIATE PRIOR TO US TAKING THE VOTE WHILE WE ARE IN FACT, BY WAY OF YOUR CLARIFICATION, ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE ITEM BECAUSE IT IS NOT OFFICIALLY POSTPONED.
UM, WHAT I WAS HOPING TO HAVE HAPPENED DURING THE COURSE OF THE DELIBERATION WAS HAVING SOME OF THOSE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS BE ADDRESSED.
SOME OF THE WATERSHED ISSUES BE ADDRESSED, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER ISSUES BE ADDRESSED.
SO WHILE WE ARE CONSIDERING A POSTPONEMENT OF THE ITEM, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THOSE PRESENTATIONS FROM STAFFERS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO MULL OVER SOME OF THE, THE ITEMS, UM, THAT MIGHT JUST ASSUAGE SOME OF THEIR FEARS AND OR ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
IS THAT STILL A POSSIBILITY GIVEN THAT POSTPONEMENT IS ON THE TABLE AS A POSSIBILITY, BUT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN THE VOTE TO POSTPONE YET.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE TODAY, BUT WE CAN DO IT IN MAYBE NOT AS COMPLETE A MATTER AS WE MIGHT HAVE HAD.
WE ACTUALLY BE DECIDING THOSE MERITS, BUT AS WE POSTPONE THE MATTER, I THINK IT IS WITHIN YOUR BOUNDS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO, TO, TO SEND THE MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY OR INFORMATION, THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'D LIKE THEM TO HAVE WHILE THE MATTER'S POSTPONE PRETTY MUCH TO DO THAT.
AND THEN I ALSO APPRECIATE THE COLORS RECOGNITION OF MY INTENT HERE AROUND AFFORDABILITY.
UM, AND I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF THE OTHER CALLERS POINTED OUT THE, THE VERY RELEVANT REALITY OF THE FACT THAT AFFORDABILITY IS, IS RELATIVE.
YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO AND, AND WHAT THEIR INCOME LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO, UH, SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE VERY MUCH FOR IN THE INTERIM, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE HAVE THIS TIME AWAY FROM THE CASE, I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO AT LEAST HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE HAD, UM, UH, THAT WE COULD HAVE EXTRACTED FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE STAFF, UM, TO, TO REALLY THINK THROUGH WHILE THEY ARE THINKING THROUGH WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR AS A COMMUNITY, BOTH FROM US AS A COUNCIL AND THE DEVELOPERS, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ALL PARTIES.
I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 58.
MY NAME IS MARILYN THORN THOMPSON, AND I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION 1907 INVERNESS BOULEVARD.
I DO NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSE A REZONING, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD BRINGING IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT MARQUIS INVESTMENTS AND MR. PROFE BEING APPEARS TO BE OPERATING IN BAD FAITH AT EVERY POSSIBLE TURN.
UM, WE JUST, WE KNOW WE'VE, I'VE LIVED ACROSS THE STREET FOR 12 YEARS AND I'VE SEEN AN UNPERMITTED ADDITION GO UP AND JUST, I DON'T KNOW, LAST MONTH, UM, I SAW A CONCRETE TRUCK PULL UP AND THEN PUMP A LOAD OF CONCRETE UNDER LIKE A NONEXISTENT FOUNDATION.
SO IT'S JUST BEEN A DISAPPOINTMENT THAT WE'VE HAD TO SPEND SO MUCH ENERGY, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET WILL BE SAFE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS ROBERT FERGUSON AND MURPHY ENGINEERING COMPANY.
WE'RE ENGAGED AS THE DISTRICT ENGINEER FOR BOTH TRAVIS COUNTY, WCID 20 AND TC MODE FOUR.
I'M ADDRESSING THE REZONE REQUEST ITEM 65 ON TODAY'S AGENDA SUBMITTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER OF WHAT WAS COMMONLY BEEN KNOWN AS THE PEER ON LIKE AUSTIN TO REZONE A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL RETAIL USES DULLED OUT BOTH DR.
SLIPS, MARINAS AND ASSOCIATED ACTIVITIES THAT AS WE UNDERSTAND INCLUDES GASOLINE SALES.
THE ISSUE AT HAND IS THAT OUR CLIENTS OWN AND OPERATE WATERWALK RAW WATER INTAKES AS A PART OF THE PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS THAT ARE LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET FROM PROPOSED BOAT DOCKS CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOAT DOCKS WOULD VIOLATE THE RULES OF THE TCQ, WHICH REQUIRED INTAKES TO BE NO CLOSER THAN A THOUSAND FEET TO SUCH FACILITIES.
THE WCID 20 INTAKE IS APPROXIMATELY 800 FEET DOWNSTREAM ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE LAKE AS THE PROPOSED BOAT SLIPS.
AND THE TC MUD FOR INTAKE IS APPROXIMATELY 400 FEET UPSTREAM.
THESE LOCATIONS WERE BOTH APPROVED AT THE TIME OF THEIR CONSTRUCTION BY THE THEN REGULATORY AGENCIES BEING THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THE TEXAS COMMISSION PREDECESSORS TO THE TCQ IN REVIEW OF THE POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OF PEER PROPERTY, BOTH NOW AND IN RECENT YEARS, THE STAFF AND THE TCQ HAS MORE THAN ONCE EXPRESSED THAT THEY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO PURSUE ENFORCEMENT OF THEIR RULES REQUIRING THE THOUSAND FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE SURFACE
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WATER INTAKE AND BOAT DOCKS OR MARINAS.THE TC TE HAS STATED THAT SHOULD SUCH A DEVELOPMENT BE BUILT IN THE WATER DISTRICTS WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE TCQ RULES AND THEY COULD PURSUE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AGAINST THE DISTRICTS, POTENTIALLY REQUIRING THE INTAKE TO BE RELOCATED, TO MEET THE THOUSAND FOOT SEPARATION DISTANCE, CURRENT RULES AND POLICIES IN PLACE AND EXERCISE FOCUS ON PROTECTING PUBLIC WATER SUPPLIES BEGINNING WITH THE SOURCE WATER AND THE LOCATION OF INTAKES AROUND 2005, THE PEER RESTAURANT OPERATIONS CEASED, AND THIS SOURCE OF POTENTIAL CONTAMINATION WAS ELIMINATED.
GRANTING OF THIS REZONING REQUEST WAS PROVIDED FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE FOR USE THAT COULD INCLUDE GASOLINE SALES, INCREASING THE RISK OF CONTAMINATION OF THE PUBLIC WATER SUPPLY, SPECIFICALLY THE RAW WATER INTAKE OF WET WATER SYSTEMS. IF THE TPQ PURSUES ENFORCEMENT OF THE THOUSAND FOOT SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS, THE DISTRICT ARE REQUIRED TO RELOCATE THE CAKES.
OUR PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OF THAT AS A PROJECT HAS AN ESTIMATED COST OF SEVERAL MILLION HOURS IN ADDITION TO THE DIFFICULT AND COSTLY LAND, OUR EASTMAN ACQUISITION THROUGH THAT CONDEMNATION PROCESS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PARTICIPATING TODAY.
AND LOUIS DOES COUNCIL MEMBER TOBO.
I WAS TAKE FACILITIES WERE CONSTRUCTED.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THEM WAS CONSTRUCTED AFTER THE PIER WAS IN PLACE AND, AND THAT IT RELIED ON A WAIVER.
BUT IF YOU'VE GOT INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE USEFUL TO KNOW THE FIRST PART OF YOUR COMMENT WAS CUT OFF KEVIN.
MY QUESTION WAS FOR THE SPEAKER AND I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE DATE OF THE INTAKE.
THE DATE OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE INTAKE FACILITY IS THE SPEAKER STILL WITH US.
IF I MIGHT REFER YOU TO THE Q AND A FOR ITEM 65, I THINK THERE'S AN ANSWER IN THERE FOR YOU.
PLEASE BE SURE TO UNMUTE NOT WORKING YOU'RE ON NOW.
MS. LEWIS, YOU KEEP, YOU KEEP MUTING YOURSELF.
SO GLAD TO BE THINKING HERE AGAINST THE SO-CALLED VILLAS THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN 5,500 FEET OF MY HOUSE THERE, I REALLY WONDER IF THERE'S ROOM FOR ME IN THE CITY ANYMORE.
I WROTE SOMETHING THAT PRETTY MUCH EXPRESSED WHAT THE NEIGHBOR LIVES NEXT DOOR SAID ABOUT TRAFFIC AND WATER AND IMPERVIOUS COVER AND CODES AND PRIVACY WANT TO COME TO MY HOUSE AND SEE ME DANCE NAKED.
I MEAN, ADAPT WHAT IT'S LIKE WITH WINDOWS DIRECTLY INTO MY BACKYARD, BY THE WAY, IT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU DID COME DOWN HERE AND SEE WHAT IT'S LIKE WITH THE CONSTANT NOISE AS WELL.
I TRY TO TEACH STUDENTS ONLINE AND THE SUNBLOCK FROM GARDENS ALL UP AND DOWN MY STREET.
I MEAN, I THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT ME.
I HOPE THAT YOU READ WHAT I READ TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE RESULT WAS I GOT TWO LONG MESSAGES AND A PACK OF SCHEMATICS TRYING TO SELL ME ON THE VERY STRANGE IDEA THAT THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER HAD ANYTHING IN MIND FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
THE PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU ELECTED TO REPRESENT.
WORKING CLASS CHICANO AFRICAN-AMERICAN WILL NO LONGER BE HERE.
MY MOST LOVED NEIGHBORS ARE ALREADY GONE.
THEIR HOUSES WERE PLACED BY MCMANSIONS WITH 20 FOOT CEILINGS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT HUMAN BEINGS GROW TO SUCH FIGHTS AND GRAVEL YARDS.
I DOUBT THE WHITE GENTRY WILL WANT REPRESENTATIVES WHO ARE MORE CIVILIZED THAN THEY ARE.
THERE WILL BE NO ONE LEFT TO ELECT YOU.
AND THE SADDEST PART IS YOU COULD DO SOMETHING.
YOU COULD CREATE LABOR CODE SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE SO CHEAP TO HIRE PEOPLE WHO WORK IN DANGER WITHOUT EVEN HAND SANITIZING STATIONS NEXT TO THEIR TOILET.
YOU COULDN'T INSIST ON HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY AND LOW INCOMES AND NOT HOUSED AS A PART OF ANY DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING SOUTH AUSTIN.
YOU COULD INSIST THAT THEY PROVIDE PARKS AND GREEN SPACE AND SIDEWALKS.
ANYTIME THEY PUT UP THESE SO-CALLED VILLAS, THERE'S
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A LOT YOU COULD DO.AND A FIRST STEP IS NOT ACCEPTING THIS ON THE FIRST READING AND NOT CHANGING THE ZONING ON THIS.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ECOLOGY ACTION AND MANAGE THE CIRCLE ACRES NATURE, PRESERVE ADJACENT AND BELOW THAT, BY THE WAY, WE ARE OPPOSING THE REZONING REQUESTS AND BELIEVE IT WILL BE A SET, A BAD PRECEDENT.
I'M ON TOP OF LIST AND ACCELERATE A PROCESS OF INTENSIFIED GENTRIFICATION.
AND IT'S EXTREMELY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.
WHILE I APPRECIATE THIS SINCERE DESIRE TO FIND AN AMICABLE SOLUTION AND PROVIDE MEANINGFUL, AFFORDABLE OPTIONS.
OFTEN RESIDENTS, I DID NOT THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SCALE IS IN A VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL RESULT IN AN EQUITABLE OUTCOME FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT IS ALREADY HERE.
I THINK THEIR VOICES SHOULD RING NOW THIS YEAR AND FRANKLY THEY HAVE NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD UNANIMOUSLY OPPOSED TO PROJECT.
FURTHERMORE, THE LARGE CONDO COMMUNITY HERE WILL PUT A GREAT BURDEN ON US AT ECOLOGY ACTION AND FOREVER SCAR.
THE VEHICLE SPACE WE HAVE HELPED CREATE FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING OUR PLANT AND ANIMAL KINGDOM.
WE HAVE WORKED HERE FOR 15 YEARS TO RECOVER THIS LAND FROM SOME OF THE MOST RECKLESS UNCONSCIONABLE ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMES.
ONE COULD IMAGINE WE'VE CREATED A SPACE OF HOPE AND A RADICAL DEMONSTRATION OF WHAT IS POSSIBLE.
WHEN A COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER TO FIX THINGS FOR EACH OTHER AND OUR SHARED ENVIRONMENT.
I KEEP HEARING WHAT ARE THE ULTIMATE IS COUNSEL.
I KNOW WATERSHED PROTECTION WAS BEGINNING TO EXPLORE OPTIONS TO PURCHASE THE BACK PART OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE IT WENT UNDER CONTRACT, IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE CANOPY'S PROTECTION.
I KNOW PART IS INTERESTED IN USING OUR PRESERVE AS A BRIDGE BETWEEN THE HISTORICAL MONTOPOLIS SCHOOL, ACROSS THE STREET AND GROW TO GROVE PARK.
AND I KNOW THE CURRENT OWNERS HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES.
IF THIS DEAL FAILS, THIS COULD ALL HAPPEN.
THE CITY SUPPORT AND STILL ALLOW THE LAND MORE APPROPRIATE FOR SUBDIVISION TO SUPPORT LOW INCOME HOUSING INLINE WITH THE ECONOMIC REALITY OF THIS COMMUNITY, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO MAKE THE FALSE CHOICE OF EITHER THE 17 PLUS 16 HIGH END CONDOS OR SOMETHING WORSE.
WE HAVE A TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO DO RIGHT BY THE CURRENT OWNERS.
THEY'RE A WONDERFUL COUPLE AND PILLARS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
MY QUESTION TO YOU ALL IS WHY NOT THIS COMMUNITY WILL BE BETTER SERVED IN THIS GOVERNMENT.
STILL THOSE MONTOPOLIS RECOMPENSE FOR THE CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE PERPETRATED HERE IN THE PAST.
THIS IS JUST A REALLY QUICK OPPORTUNITY.
QUICK OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
THERE WERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS AFTERNOON.
THERE ARE JOURNALISTS WHO ARE ASKING FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH ME SHARING IT, PLEASE SEND ME AN EMAIL THAT SAYS AS MUCH.
IS THAT BETTER? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.
THIS IS ANGELA GARZA AND I'M HERE AS A CITIZEN.
AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS CHAIR ATTENTION BECAUSE WE HAVE A SIMILAR SITUATION HERE IN MY HOME AS WELL.
AND WHAT WE ARE OPEN TO UNDERSTANDING, UM, PLACED SUSTAINABLE, REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THE GROUND, UH, TO CITY COUNCILMAN'S NATASHA HARPER'S POINT.
WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE AN OPPORTUNITY.
YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
WE HAVE ZERO AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT ALL, BUT AT THE SAME POINT, WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS A THOUSAND DOLLAR HOME, BUT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT KIND OF MODEL COULD WE ALSO THAT WE, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S MORE THAN IT PROPERLY OR IN OUR CASE, MAYBE FIVE OR SIX IN THAT AREA, LIKELY PEOPLE WILLING TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER, BUT WHAT IS GOING TO BE VIABLE? WHAT IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE SO THAT WE DON'T GET ZERO OUT OF PAIN AT ALL.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THE AFFORDABILITY LIKE REALLY NEED THAT SINCE I DON'T WANT TO THAT THE OTHER CHALLENGE
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FOR PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR PEERS AND FOR INPUT, WE'RE NOT GETTING A LOT OF COMMUNITY.I JUST THINK YOU'D HAVE TO TELL WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEY COULD HAVE THAT INPUT, GET THE FEEDBACK SO THAT WE DON'T LEAVE IT.
WE'LL EXPECT IT ON THE DEVELOPERS AS WELL.
SO I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN, BUT WE'RE OPEN TO UNDERSTANDING HOW TO BE ABLE TO VOTE CORRECTLY OR SUPPORT CORRECTLY, UM, A REAL VIABLE SOLUTION.
COULD WE LET MS. GARZA KNOW THAT IT WAS HARD TO HEAR HER THROUGHOUT TO GET THE SENSE OF WHAT SHE WAS SAYING? BECAUSE IT GOT A LITTLE GARBLED AND IT CUT IN AND OUT.
MAYBE SHE COULD SEND US AN EMAIL WITH, UM, HER, UM, HER THOUGHTS TO ME EMAIL, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO DO.
WE GOT AT A HIGH LEVEL, BUT ABSOLUTELY WE DIDN'T MISS IT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO IF SHE WAS KATHERINE GONZALEZ GOODWIN, CATHERINE GOODWIN.
UM, I WANT TO ADDRESS THIS ANYWAY, THE POSTPONE THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THINGS SHOULD BE DONE WHILE THE POSTPONEMENT IS GOING ON.
THE ISSUES SURROUNDING THIS REQUEST ARE MULTIFACETED.
AND I'M JUST THE SECOND POINT I'M HEARING.
THE ISSUES SURROUNDING THIS REQUEST ARE MULTIFACETED AND INVOLVE SERIOUS.
ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS EXPLAINED IN A LETTER SENT TO YOU RECENTLY BY ECOLOGY ACTION.
CITY PLANNING, STAFF RECOMMENDED AGAINST A ZONING UPGRADE.
THE IMPORTANT ISSUE IS THE INTERFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF 91% BLACK INDIGENOUS AND PEOPLE OF COLOR WHO LIVE IN THIS LONG ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD OF SMALL WELL-KEPT HOMES AND WHOSE INCOME RANGE IS 20 TO 40% LOWER THAN THE 60 TO 80% RANGE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROMISE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS PLACEMENT IS SURE TO HAPPEN IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THE CITY COUNCIL BEGAN TAKING STEPS TO DECREASE RACISM IN AUSTIN, ALLOWING THE ZONING UPGRADE AS IT STANDS WILL DO NOTHING TO DECREASE RACISM IN AUSTIN.
IT WILL SERVE TO PERPETUATE A SYSTEM OF GENTRIFICATION THAT IS HISTORICALLY AND CURRENTLY RACIST.
PLEASE RESPECT THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CAMP STREET COMMUNITY WORK DILIGENTLY TO DEVELOP A PLAN USING INPUT FROM THE RESIDENTS, THE CITY PLANNING, STAFF, AND COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE.
CAN YOU ALL HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
UM, I, I'M NOT SPEAKING TO THE POSTPONE AND I WAS SPEAKING, UM, AGAINST A, UM, UH, ITEM 66.
I ASKED YOU ALL TO SUPPORT THE BALLOT PETITION AND OPPOSED THE ZONING CASE AT, AT CAMP IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE AUSTIN HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, UH, DEALT WITH THE TILLARY GARDNER CASES THAT EXPOSED UNCONSCIOUS SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
THIS, THIS KIM CASE IS A CASE OF SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
I ASKED YOU NOT TO ENABLE UNCONSCIOUS SYSTEMIC RACISM BY ZONING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THIS SYSTEMICALLY RACIST ZONING, WHICH CREATED EAST BOSTON IN THE FIRST PLACE.
AND I ASKED YOU TO STAND WITH US TO TURN THE TIDE OF SYSTEMIC RACISM IN AUSTIN AND OPPOSE THE ZONING TRACE IN MONTOPOLIS.
AND I ESPECIALLY APPEAL TO MY, MY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF COLOR.
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SEE YOU SUPPORTING THE ANTI-RACISM MOVING AS AGGRESSIVELY AS I WISH THAT YOU WOULD.AND HERE'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, BECAUSE IT IS IN ZONING.
THAT RACISM HAPPENS NOT JUST THE KILLING OF OUR BLACK AND BROWN CHILDREN BY COPS, BUT THIS IS ZONING BY, BUT ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL MUSCLE THAT IS ENABLED BY AN UNCONSCIOUS SYSTEM THAT PERPETUATES THE STATUS QUO.
I WOULD ASK ALL OF YOU ON THE COUNCIL TO HELP US MOVE AWAY FROM OUR RACIST LEGACY.
ANY GUN? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M ALSO CALLING TO POST THOSE ANY CHANGE IT BY THE WAY AT CAMP.
I ALSO HOPE THAT POST SUMMIT SERVES AS A CHANCE TO LET THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY BE HEARD AND NOT A CHANCE TO LET OUR, UM, THE WIND LEAVE OUR FIELD.
I LIVE ON CHEMISTRY HERE WITH MY PARTNER AND OUR ONE YEAR OLD.
AND I GREW UP IN AND ON TOP OF THIS AREA, AND THIS IS MY CHOSEN COMMUNITY.
IT'S NOT DRAMATIC TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING MY NEIGHBORS AND I LOVE ABOUT MONTOPOLIS AND CHEMISTRY IS THREATENED BY A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
THIS DIVERSE POPULATION IS BEAUTIFUL, IS INTERSECTION OF GREEN AND URBAN SPACES LIVING IN HARMONY.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL IF WE EVER SPECTRA EACH OTHER AND FOR THE LAND.
AND BY DEFENDING THIS PROJECT, YOU'RE KIND OF TURNING A BLIND EYE TO A DELICATE BALANCE THAT IS ENDANGERED RIGHT NOW, BUT ZONING FOR 33 CONDOS IN THE HEART OF ORIGINAL AUSTIN, RESIDENTIAL STREET WILL TOPPLE THIS BEAUTIFUL BALANCE AND DEEPLY IMPACT THE LIVES OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
EITHER PEOPLE WHO WE LOVE AND WE CARE FOR, AND THEY SHOULD BE HEARD AND PROTECTED.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY ONE THING ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT HE'S SEEN REPEATED, UM, VIA BOGGIO THE REP FOR THE DEVELOPERS TOLD THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT TEAM.
I BELIEVE IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT THE PRICES WOULD BE SET AT 80% MFI, NOT 60 TO 80%, BUT JUST 80%.
AND YOU CAN ASK HER ABOUT THAT DETAIL IF YOU LIKE 60 TO 80% IN THE FIRE AS THE INCOME ELIGIBILITY RANGE TO APPLY.
SO THE AVERAGE MONTOPOLIS RESIDENT WHO MAKES LESS THAN 40% MFI CANNOT EVEN APPLY.
WHAT'S BEEN A REALLY IMPORTANT THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE CONVERSATION.
UM, THIS PROJECT HAS ZERO COMMUNITY BUY IN.
I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THAT FROM ALL OF US HERE.
WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT OUR NEIGHBORS ARE MISINFORMED OR CONFUSED, AND I ASSURE YOU, THE COUNCIL THAT THE COMMUNITY AROUND HERE IS UNDER NO ILLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
MANY OF THEM HAVE GROWN UP ON THE STREET.
THEY'VE WITNESSED THE CHANGES ALL AROUND THEM FOR DECADES AND HOW COULD THEY NOT BE THE MOST INFORMED PARTY AT THE TABLE TO THIS CONVERSATION? WE'D LIKE YOU TO STOP THE NEED THE COMMUNITY BY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT BEST FOR THEM, GENTRIFICATION IS HAPPENING ALREADY.
A PROJECT LIKE THIS, JUST THROWS GASOLINE ON THE FIRE AND ZONING.
IT'S GOING TO TRIPLE THAT LAND VALUE.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
NO MATTER HOW YOU PACKAGE IT OR GREEN WASH IT OR SPIN IT ALONG INTO SUB DON'T SET THE CLEAR PRECEDENT FOR THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE LITERALLY NEXT DOOR ACROSS THE STREET AND AROUND THE CORNER SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THEIR TURN AT THE PLANNING NEXT HERE IN CHEMISTRY, THERE'S LIKE 20 HOUSES.
AND SO ADDING 33 UNITS HERE, I WAS GOING TO MORE THAN DOUBLE OUR POPULATION OVERNIGHT AND RAPIDLY DILUTED.
I HAVE LOTS MORE TO SAY, BUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT ON THE NEXT NIGHT.
THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING GREG AND GRAYSON.
I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM 65 CONCERNING THE PIERS REZONING REQUEST.
I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AT TRAVIS COUNTY WATER CONTROL AND IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 20 FOR ALMOST 13 YEARS AND WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD.
OUR DISTRICT HAS BEEN PROVIDING DRINKING WATER SINCE THE MID 1980S TO THE ROB ROY SUBDIVISION.
THE DISTRICT HAS 375 WATER CONNECTIONS TO PUT A HUMAN ELEMENT TO THAT NUMBER.
IT MEANS THAT OVER 300 FAMILIES AND A COUPLE OF DOZEN BUSINESSES DEPEND ON OUR DISTRICT FOR THEIR DRINKING WATER.
THE DISTRICT ALSO HAS EMERGENCY INTERCONNECTS TO SHARE WATER WITH FIVE OTHER DISTRICTS AND THOUSANDS OF ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS IN AN EMERGENCY LIKE AUSTIN IS THE SOURCE OF DRINKING WATER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE OPERATE OUR RAW WATER INTAKE RIGHT ACROSS FROM EMMA LONG METROPOLITAN PARK.
FOR YOUR EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT GASOLINE SALES OCCURRING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO OUR WA RAW WATER INTAKE.
YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM OUR DISTRICT ENGINEER, ROBERT FERGUSON, WHO HAS GENERATED A REPORT REVIEWING THE HEALTH RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH GASOLINE CONTAMINATING, A FRESH WATER SUPPLY, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR CONTAMINATION.
IF GASOLINE SALES WERE TO RESUME AT THE PIER TO REITERATE THE REPORT STATES THAT THE SALE OF GASOLINE, IF THE PIER INCREASES THE POTENTIAL FOR BENZENE CONTAMINATION IN THE DISTRICT'S WATER SUPPLY.
AND TO THE EXTENT A SPILL WERE TO OCCUR RESIDENTS CONSUMING THE DISTRICTS, DRINKING WATER COULD BE SUBJECTED TO SIGNIFICANT HEALTH RISKS WHILE IT'S TRUE THAT THE FEAR WAS IN OPERATION FOR A PERIOD
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OF TIME AFTER OUR RAW INTAKE WAS INSTALLED.THE FACT THAT A GASOLINE SPILL WAS NOT DOCUMENTED AT THAT TIME IS NOT PREDICTIVE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT SUCH A SPILL WILL OCCUR IN THE FUTURE.
WE DID NOT WANT THE SALE OF GASOLINE TO RESUME AT THE PIER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, ASHLEY LABETT UH, HI.
HOW ARE YOU GUYS TODAY? HI, MAYOR ADLER AND CITY COUNCIL.
UM, FIRST I WANNA THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME TO HEAR OUR OPPOSITION ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF 66 AT KEMP STREET.
UM, WE DO APPRECIATE THE POSTPONEMENT.
HOWEVER, UM, WE STILL RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO HEAR US NOT WHAT YOU BELIEVE IS BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WHAT THE ALLEGIANCE OF US WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TODAY AND THROUGHOUT THE MONTH ARE TELLING YOU WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO PRESERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LOVE AND DESPITE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, THESE PROPOSED CONDOS ARE NOT AFFORDABLE FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO PREDOMINANTLY LIVE CLOSER TO THE POVERTY LINE.
THEY DO NOT QUALIFY AT THE 60 OR EVEN 80%.
WE UNFORTUNATELY FEEL LIKE THESE DISCUSSIONS, OUR BOXES CHECKED BECAUSE OF THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN AUSTIN.
AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR MORE MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE 33 CONDOS, UH, PROPOSED FOUR OR FIVE OH EIGHT, 10, WE ARE WORRIED THAT IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC TO A SMALL TWO LANE STREET.
IT'LL CREATE OVERFLOW PARKING CONCERNS, POTENTIAL LITTER, INCREASED VANDALISM, NOT TO MENTION THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES THAT PEOPLE HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERNS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
UM, WE ALREADY HAVE REDUCED PARKING, ESPECIALLY IN CONSIDERATION OF ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF HOUSES ON THIS STREET.
IT'S CHARMING IT'S COMMUNITY, IT'S CHILDREN'S SKATEBOARDING AND RIDING BIKES UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
AND TO BE FRANK WITH YOU, THERE ARE VERY FEW PLACES LEFT IN A CITY LIKE THIS, WHERE CHILDREN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW UP LIKE THAT.
A MUCH LIKE MANY OF US GREW UP IN A PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAFE ENOUGH TO RIDE YOUR BIKE.
UM, IN ADDITION, THE REZONING AND FURTHER REDUCTION OF NATURAL LAND IMPACTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT DREW MANY OF US TO THE AREA, UH, CIRCLE ACRES HAS BECOME A HEALTHY OUTLET FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE FORM OF HIKING EXPLORATION, A PLACE OF LEARNING AND WONDER FOR CHILDREN AND THE MONTOPOLIS AREA.
IT WILL BE VALUABLE AND PLANTS DISPLAYED THING, A WIDE RANGE OF WILDLIFE.
UM, WE BELIEVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OUTWEIGHS THE IMPORTANCE OF DEVELOPING.
THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING WITH US TONIGHT.
YEAH, I'M SPEAKING ON THE ITEM 65.
I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF WC ID NUMBER 20.
I AM THE FIRST HOMEOWNER ON THE LAKE TOWNS TRAIN WITH A PIER.
I MIGHT NOT LIKE IT, BUT I SURE DON'T WANT TO DRINK IT.
AND A MARINA USE UPSTREAM OF OUR WATER INTAKE IS THE SAME AS A GAS STATION FLOATING OVER THE WATER.
DON'T LET THE APPLICANT DISTRACT YOU WITH POOR LITTLE OLD PIER AND A HAMBURGER.
LET'S FOCUS ON THE CITY'S OWN DOCUMENTS IN 1976, THE CITY ADOPTED THE LAKE AUSTIN GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, PAGE 49 WITH A PLAN TO NOTE THAT THE POOL OF THE LAKE AND ANY AREA WITHIN LIKE'S FLOOD PLAIN SHOULD BE LABELED AS A CONSERVATION ZONE MAPPING.
AND THE PLAN SHOWS WHERE THE PARRIS LOCATED TO BE CONSIDERED A CONSERVATION ZONE PER THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
THERE WAS TO BE NO COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES ALLOWED IN A CONSERVATION ZONE.
AND I QUOTE FROM THE PLAN, NO ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE PERMITTED, WHICH WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE NATURAL, PHYSICAL, CHEMICAL, OR BIOLOGICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE WATER IN THESE ZONES AND QUOTES.
THESE ARE THE CITIES ON MARCHING ORDERS.
PART OF THE LAKE AUSTIN GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN, CRITICAL WATER QUALITY ZONE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
THE PEARSON CLOSED AND NOT USE SINCE 2005.
THE RESURRECTION OF A YOUTH ENDED 15 YEARS AGO THAT IS NOW CONSIDERED NONCONFORMING FOR ITS CURRENT SONY.
AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR PROPER ZONING IN ORDER TO CONTINUE, THE DOCS HAD BEEN LEFT TO ROT, TO THE ELEMENTS, PLEASE OPPOSE GASOLINE SALES AND ALIGN WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT PLAN.
AND MAYBE I WON'T HAVE TO DRINK IT.
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HI, I'M MARKI'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON LESSON LANE.
SO THE EXISTING ZONING AS IT SPEAKS IS SF THREE.
WITH SF THREE, WE CAN SUBDIVIDE THAT INTO NINE WATTS PUTTING TWO UNITS PER LOT ON THE PROPERTY WITH THIS COMES NINE DRIVEWAYS, THE PROPOSED ZONING OF SFX.
WE ARE PROPOSING ONE DRIVEWAY AND LAYING OUT THE, THE HOUSES IN A MANNER THAT ARE CONDUCIVE AND BETTER LOOKING.
NOT ONLY, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WITH THIS, WITH THE, THE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS LAID OUT, THE WATER, THERE'S TWO WATER LINES.
THERE'S AN EIGHT INCH WATERLINE AND THE SIX INCH WATER LINE THAT ARE NOT CONNECTED AS OF RIGHT NOW, THAT WOULD STAY THAT WAY.
IF WE WERE TO, IF WE WERE TO KEEP IT AS A, AS A SIX WITH US WITH SF THREE, PARDON ME WITH SF SIX, WE WILL COME.
WE WILL CONNECT THOSE TWO WATER LINES INCREASING AND MAKING THE WATER SYSTEM BETTER.
THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER AND IT'S POLLUTING AND SO FORTH.
THE WITH, WITH ANY SUBDIVISION YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A DETENTION ON WATER QUALITY POND.
WE WILL BE DOING THIS AND WE'RE RETURNING THE FLOW RATE TO A FLOW RATE LESS THAN WHAT THE EXISTING FLOW RATE WAS COMING OFF OF THIS LAND.
THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ON LESSON.
THERE'LL BE SIDEWALKS ON THE FRONTAGE OF OUR PROPERTY.
THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ON THE FRONTAGE OF RAINA AND PREP.
UM, I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE, THE HORIZONTAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THIS, UH, THIS SONY MADE EVERYBODY BETTER.
THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING WITH US.
HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
UH, SO FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL MY NEIGHBORS.
I'M SORRY, I'M SPEAKING ON ITEM 66, UH, FIVE OH EIGHT KEMP STREET.
I WANT TO THANK ALL MY NEIGHBORS.
UM, WELL, THE ONES THAT COULD BE HERE, UH, I KNOW SOME OF US TOOK THE DAY OFF TO SPEAK ON THIS AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK IN THE PAST MONTH, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL LISTENS TO US, UH, ON WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE NEED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORS, AND WE DID NOT NEED, UH, THE LUXURY CONDOS AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT 80%, UH, MSI.
SO, UH, I HOPE THAT WITH THIS POSTPONEMENT, UH, WE CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE THE COMMUNITY IS HEARD AND WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN ACTUALLY BACK UP THE COMMUNITY AND, YOU KNOW, AND SUPPORT US IN WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE NEED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, RATHER THAN SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, A DEVELOPER THAT'S TRYING TO BUILD A LUXURY CONDO SINCE TRUMP TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH IT, BY OFFERING SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT'S NOT AFFORDABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, LIKE, UH, ERIC SAID FROM ERIC PHARMACOLOGY ACTION SAID EARLIER, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DO TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, FIGURING OUT IF WE CAN PURCHASE THIS LOT AND BUILD A LOW INCOME HOUSING THERE, YOU KNOW, UH, PROTECTING, UH, PART OF IT THE MOST, UH, ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE PART OF IT, WHICH, UH, I BELIEVE A WATERSHED HAD TALKED ABOUT PURCHASING, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE MANY THINGS AND I BELIEVE THAT THE, UM, CITY COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS FAILING US IN THAT, UM, AND SUPPORTING US, UH, KNOWING WHAT WE WANT AND LISTENING TO US.
UM, I KNOW THAT YOU ARE, THAT THEY SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, MILLION DOLLAR HOUSES, BUT ACTUALLY DEVELOPERS IS NOT EVEN ALONE THIS LOT.
AND SO WE WANT TO, UH, HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL BACK US UP ON THIS AND HELP US GET SOME REAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE, KATHLEEN.
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YES.I AM A RESIDENT OF THE ROCK ON THE LAKE SUBDIVISION, WATER QUALITY DISTRICT 20, AND I'M EXPRESSING MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF THAT PURE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE GASOLINE SALES THAT WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN.
UM, AS SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SAID, THE PROXIMITY OF THE BOAT DOCK TO OUR WATER INTAKE WOULD, UH, IF THERE WERE AN ACCIDENT, IT WOULD LEAD TO CONTAMINATION OF OUR DRINKING WATER AND THE DRINKING WATER, APPARENTLY OF QUITE A FEW PEOPLE.
SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO, UM, UH, VOTE NO ON THE ZONING AND, UH, PROHIBITS THE GASOLINE SALES IN THAT LOCATION.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SPEAK ON, UH, UH, GENERAL ITEM NUMBER 58 ONE NINE ZERO SEVEN IS WHAT IS BOULEVARD.
I, UM, WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF WEEKS.
UH, WENDY WROTE, ESPECIALLY AND, AND CATCHES OFFICES WITH KEN CRAIG AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, CODE ENFORCEMENT.
UM, I APPRECIATE THAT I'VE BEEN HEARD AND THAT, UM, WE HAVE A PLAN GOING FORWARD FROM THE, FROM ALL THE POWERS THAT HAVE BEEN GOTTEN TO HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER ON THIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS FURTHER, AND I ASSUME, UH, A DIFFERENT FORUM IS PROBABLY A BETTER PLACE PERHAPS WITH THE, UH, HOUSING AND PLANNING COMMITTEE.
UM, BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT WITH THIS PROCESS, BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, WE JUST WANT THIS PROPERTY THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO MINE.
UM, YOU WANT THIS PROPERTY TO BE A POSITIVE ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S PLANNED IN PLACE.
IF I DO THAT, UH, WANT A GOOD ROAD.
SHIVERS WATSON, MR. WATSON, PLEASE UNMUTE BETHANY CARSON.
I'M A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FOUR AND I CALLED IN TODAY TO OPPOSE ITEM 66, THE KEMP STREET REZONING.
THE COUNCIL REALLY MUST STOP GREEN-LIGHTING DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL FURTHER DISPLACEMENT AND THANK YOU FOR THE POSTPONEMENT.
BUT GIVEN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING AROUND RE-IMAGINING SAFETY, A PLAN LIKE THIS THAT WOULD DISPLACE A LONGSTANDING 91% BY POC, MUTUALLY SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT HAVE EVEN COME UP FOR OUR FIRST READING.
THIS COMMUNITY LIVES WITH THE LEGACY OF THE 1928 MASTER PLAN AND THE USE OF THEIR LAND AS A TOXIC WASTE DUMP THE CITY OWES REPARATIONS TO THIS COMMUNITY, NOT TRADE OFFS FOR HOUSING, IT'S AFFORDABLE FOR MIDDLE INCOME, AUSTIN RESIDENTS.
IT STILL DISPLACES CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTS AS OTHERS HAVE ALREADY POINTED OUT TODAY.
THIS IS WHAT SYSTEMIC RACISM LOOKS LIKE.
THE CITY NEEDS TO BE PROACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO PREVENT HIGH COST DEVELOPMENT.
INSTEAD OF PATERNALISTICALLY NEGOTIATING COMPROMISES WITH DEVELOPERS SAY UNIVERSALLY CODES AS CCU HAS WRITTEN, THE CITY ALREADY HAS A LIST OF ANTI-DISPLACEMENT OPTIONS DEVELOPED BY UT IN THE UPROOTED REPORT.
IN ADDITION TO THE PROPOSALS PUT FORWARD BY THE MONTOPOLIS COMMUNITY, WHICH ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE UPPER DID REPORT.
IN FACT, THE REPORT RECOMMENDS COMMUNITY DRIVEN, NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE DISPLACEMENT MITIGATION PLANS WITH DEDICATED FUNDING AND OVERSIGHT INFRASTRUCTURE.
WHY NOT USE IT TO ASSIST VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES TO IMPLEMENT THEIR OWN ANTI-DISPLACEMENT MEASURES INSTEAD OF SUBSIDIZING GENTRIFYING DEVELOPMENT.
THE REPORT ALSO RECOMMENDS FOR NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS MONTOPOLIS THAT VULNERABLE OR IN THE EARLY THAT ARE VULNERABLE VULNERABLE, OR IN THE EARLY STAGES OF GENTRIFYING THAT A CITY SHOULD SUPPORT THE ACQUISITION OF AS MUCH LAND AS POSSIBLE IN STRATEGIC AREAS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS LAND BANKING ALLOWS THE CITY COMMUNITY GROUPS AND RESIDENTS
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MORE CAPACITY TO MITIGATE DISPLACEMENT.WHEN CHANGE DOES COME, THIS IS ALSO THE EXACT CIRCUMSTANCE BEHIND WHY COMMUNITIES OF COLOR UNITED HAS CALLED FOR A PUBLIC STRIKES FUND, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO QUICKLY ACQUIRE PROPERTIES IN VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES.
WHAT'S BEEN DONE WITH THE MONEY THAT'S COLLECTED WITH THE AUSTIN HOUSING CONSERVANCY FUNDED.
I HOPE THAT AFTER HEARING FROM RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TODAY, WE'LL REVISIT THESE OPTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS HAD.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 59 AND 60.
UM, THE NEIGHBORS NEAR 3,500 PECAN SPRINGS HAVE SENT DOZENS, EVEN HUNDREDS OF HOURS, PLANNING, RESPONDING, RESEARCHING, AND COOPERATING WITH THE APPLICANT AND CITY STAFF MEMBERS.
UM, WE HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT TO SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE WITH THE CONDITIONAL OVERLAY AS, UH, ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA TODAY, UM, WHICH DIDN'T INCLUDE ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT NEIGHBORS FEEL ARE NEEDED FOR THE PROPERTY.
BUT, UM, WE FOUND, UM, A COMPROMISE.
UM, WE HAVE NOT, HOWEVER, COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
SO, UM, WE'RE, I WOULD SAY WE'RE PRETTY WORRIED ABOUT THIS, UM, AND HOPE THIS WILL BE RESOLVED SOON.
UM, I WANT TO THINK, UM, ESPECIALLY COUNCIL MEMBER OFFICES, TOGO POOL, ELTSER ALTER AND HARPER MADISON FOR THEIR RESPONSIVENESS ON THIS PROCESS.
UM, I WANTED TO TAKE JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES, UM, AS I'VE BEEN, AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING AS NEIGHBORS, UM, OVER THE LAST MONTH, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS, UM, THAT ARE NOT DISSIMILAR TO THE OTHER POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED SO FAR IN THE SPEAKERS.
UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO ECHO, UM, FROM WHAT WE, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, IT FEELS THAT OUR CURRENT PLAN IN AUSTIN IS MAXIMUM DENSITY BY DEFAULT, REGARDLESS OF THE CONDITIONS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, UM, I WOULD PROPOSE MAYBE WE THINK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ANOTHER WAY.
WHAT IF WE, UM, FLIPPED THE, THE PROCESS AND STARTED WITH A CALCULATION FOR APPROPRIATE UNIT COUNT ON A, ON A PROPERTY BASED ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE PROPERTY, LIKE HOW MANY, HOW MANY UNITS COULD PHYSICALLY BE DRAWN ONTO A PROPERTY, UM, HER ACRE AND THEN SUBTRACT DURING ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, SUBTRACT FOR ISSUES WITH CURRENT TRAFFIC SAFETY SUBTRACT FOR EXISTING FLOODING OR ADD FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE FIRST PROPERTY IN THE AREA TO BE DEVELOPED REDEVELOPED OR REZONED.
UM, I FEEL LIKE THERE, THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD DO THIS, THAT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S BEING DONE CURRENTLY.
UM, AND THE PROCESS IN GENERAL, AGAIN, AS OTHER PEOPLE HAD SAID, FEELS LIKE IT REALLY NEEDS UPDATING.
UM, IT'S NOT APPARENT OR EQUITABLE TO ALL RESIDENTS.
UM, AND IT'S AN EXTREMELY TIME CONSUMING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, GREG KRUM YES.
I REPRESENT TRAVIS COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT BEFORE, AND THIS IS ON ITEM NUMBER 65.
I'M GOING TO ENDEAVOR TO, TO NOT RETREAD WHAT OTHERS HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
UM, A QUICK, A COUPLE ITEMS. UM, THE PURE PROPERTY, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS IN EXISTENCE WHEN THE TRAVIS COUNTY MUD FOR INTAKE WAS PERMITTED.
UM, THE, THE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH LOOKED AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS FOR THE INTAKE AT THAT TIME.
AND, AND I COULD IN A NUMBER OF, OF ISSUES AND GRANTED THEM A VARIANCE TO LOCATE THAT INTAKE WITHIN 400 FEET OF THE PURE PROPERTY.
OF COURSE, THAT WAS BACK IN THE EIGHTIES.
UM, AND SINCE THE EIGHTIES, UM, THE SCIENCE HAS CHANGED ON HOW YOU EVALUATE, UH, THE QUALITY OF YOUR DRINKING WATER.
UH, AND DAVID MOLLISON, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN MORE DETAIL LATER, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE BENZENE, UM, GETTING INTO THE, UM, THE INTAKE, IT'S THE, UM, BYPRODUCTS THAT ARE CREATED WHEN CORRINE ACTS WITH, UH, BENZENE AND OTHER GASOLINE PRODUCTS THAT CAN CREATE CARCINOGENICS IN THE WATER.
SO, UH, OUR, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS, IS GOOD WATER QUALITY AND PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY.
UM, WE STARTED THE PROCESS, UM, WHEN REPRESENTATIVE THE APPLICANT ATTENDED A BOARD MEETING, UH, WITH TRAVIS CAME BY BEFORE IN AUGUST.
AND AT THAT MEETING, UH, THEY ASSERTED THAT, UM, UH, THEY WANTED TO REZONE FOR THE DOC FACILITY, BUT A SORT OF DUAL RUBINO GAS SERVICE.
AND AS WE PROGRESSED THROUGH THIS AND WORKED THROUGH RESTRICTIVE
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COVENANTS, UNFORTUNATELY THAT POSITION'S CHANGED.UM, AND IN MY VIEW WITH THE RESTRUCTURE COVENANTS THAT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATED, UH, IF, IF WE CAN AGREE THAT, UM, THERE WON'T BE GUESTS OVER SOME OF THE PROPERTIES, I THINK WE CAN RESOLVE THIS MATTER.
AND, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE, UNLESS, UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS SHALL PAL CONLEY.
HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
UM, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE ON COUNCIL.
UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME HERE AND THIS IS KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, A REAL SITUATION.
SO THERE'S A LOT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, BUT I'M GOING TO CUT IT SHORT.
AND I HOPE THAT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY CAN BE CONSTRUCTIVE AND HELPFUL TO THIS CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MONTOPOLIS HAS BEEN STRUGGLING, UM, TO PRESERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, TO KEEP THEIR SPACE.
UM, THEY HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY NEGLECTED BY THE CITY NOW THAT, UH, REAL REALTORS ARE LOOKING AT PROPERTY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'RE SEEING THE CITY START TO PAY ATTENTION.
SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE STRUGGLE AND FIGHT AND EXPECT THE LOVE AND RESPECT FOR THAT.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, PEOPLE IN THE MONTOPOLIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE CONSTANTLY HARASSED BY SPECULATED, UM, AND, AND THAT HARASSMENT, UM, REALLY MAKES THESE CONVERSATIONS ALL THE MORE DIFFICULT AND ALL THE MORE TOXIC, BECAUSE THERE'S THIS CLIMATE OF CONSTANT INVASION.
SO I'M SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, I SUPPORT THIS.
WE SHOULD HAVE AN ORDINANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMEHOW, UH, PROVIDING CONSEQUENCES TO REALTORS WHO CONTINUALLY HARASS HOMEOWNERS, WHO DON'T WANT TO SELL.
I THINK WE SHOULD CURB THAT AGGRESSIVE REALTOR ATTACK.
UM, SO I WANT TO FIRST SAY THOSE THINGS.
I ALSO THINK THAT SOME OF THE FRAMING AROUND THIS CONVERSATION HAS BECOME VERY MISLEADING, MISLEADING IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY HELP, UM, ELIMINATE THINGS.
ALTHOUGH I AM ALSO HOPEFUL BECAUSE I SPEAK WITH THE TONE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THIS CALL IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE TONE OF SOME LEADERS AND THEM ON TOP OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHO CHOSE TO USE NAME CALLING AND THEN VERBAL ATTACK AND, YOU KNOW, THE DELIGHTING RAPE ANALOGIES AND ALL OF THAT, UM, AS WAYS TO SORT OF FORWARD THEIR OWN AGENDA FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO PROPOSE THAT ANTI-DISPLACEMENT IN MONTOPOLIS IS PROBABLY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR YOU, DAVID MALISH, MARION COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DAVID MARSH, AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER 65 OF THE AGENDA.
I'M A REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND REPRESENT TRAVIS COUNTY, DOUBLE SHADI 20 AS A DISTRICT ENGINEER.
AND I HAVE SINCE ITS CREATION IN 1983, NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO, SHORTLY AFTER CURATION, WE DESIGNED CONSTRUCTED PUBLIC DRINKING, WARM CLTS, WHICH WAS A CONCURRENCE OF THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH INCLUDED LOCATED, OR RE-ORIENTATE APPROXIMATELY 800 FEET DOWNSTREAM FROM THE OPERATING PEER RESTAURANT FACILITIES.
THE HARMFUL EFFECTS OF THE PRESENCE OF CHLORINATED HYDROCARBONS AT THAT TIME WERE NOT FULLY UNDERSTOOD OR APPRECIATED UNTIL ALMOST A DECADE LATER WHEN THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATORS WERE REQUIRED TO ROUTINELY MONITOR FOR INDICATING SURROGATES OF SUCH COMPOUNDS REFERRED TO THIS DISINFECTION BYPRODUCTS.
ALTHOUGH THE PURE RESTAURANT MARINA FACILITY CEASED OPERATIONS IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, THE CURRENT OPERATOR IS SEEKING TO ALLOW FOR THE PLANNED REINSTALLATION OF THE GASOLINE REFUELING STATION OVER THE LAKE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE DISTRICT'S RAW WATER INTAKE STRUCTURE, SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASING THE POSSIBILITY FOR CONTAMINATION OF THE DISTRICT WATER SUPPLY BENZINE.
ONE OF APPROXIMATELY 15 TOXIC COMPOUNDS AND GASOLINE HAS BEEN TARGETED BY THE EPA AS A POLLUTANT FOUND IN DRINKING WATER SPOTS AND LINES WERE SEEN REQUIRED SEVERAL DAYS TO OBTAIN RESULTS.
WHEREAS DRINKING WATER PROCESSES THROUGH THE TREATMENT PLAN IS JUST A FEW HOURS RUNNING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO DETECT PRIOR TO DISTRIBUTION FOR CONSUMPTION.
THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS GIVEN HIM MUNICIPALITIES AUTHORITY PROTECT YOURS AND THEIR WATERSHED AND DURING THE WARM SPOT ZONING AND PERMITTING PROCESSES, BUT JUST YOU DO NOT HAVE THESE POWERS UNLESS WE RELY ON CITIES AND COUNTIES FOR THE SAME PROTECTION AND EFFORT TO ENSURE PROTECTION.
AND MY CLIENT'S DRINKING WATER SUPPLY AS WELL AS THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY IS REQUESTED.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT ZONED REQUEST THAT WILL OTHERWISE JEOPARDIZE THE INTEGRITY OR A DRINKING WATER SOURCE.
FINALLY, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE CITY'S WATER AND WASTEWATER COMMISSION IN THE 1990S, AND I'M QUITE CERTAIN THAT THE SYDNEY WATER UTILITY STAFF WOULD NOT RECOMMEND OR ALLOW A GASOLINE REPAYMENT STATION A FEW HUNDRED FEET OF SPRING, AND MANY OF YOUR TUBE, OR I WANT YOU TO SAY
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LIKE, YOU PLEASE UNMUTE JOSHUA TODAY.HEY, UH, FIRST I WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, YOUR DEDICATION TO AN AFFORDABLE AUSTIN.
I ALSO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ITEM 66 IS POSTPONED, BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE INFORMATION AND ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO HELP GUIDE OUR COLLECTIVE DELIBERATION OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
AS AN ARCHITECT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT BUILDING ON A FORMER DUMP CAN BE VERY TRICKY AND TO ASSUME THAT IT'D GO EASILY WITHOUT STRUCTURAL OR ENVIRONMENTAL SURVEYS, UM, A CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE OR EVEN A PROPERTY PURCHASE SEEMS A LITTLE PREMATURE TO ME.
UH, THIS IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS DECISION, IT WILL BEYOND A FIVE OH EIGHT INTO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER KSR.
I WANT TO CLARIFY SOME INFORMATION YOU RECEIVED IN YOUR LAST MEETING ON THIS ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, SINGLE FAMILY THREE, THE IMPERVIOUS MAXIMUM IS 45% OF THE LOT SIZE AND SF SIX IS ACTUALLY 55%.
SO WHEN YOU WERE ASKING, IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO ZONES, THERE IS, ALTHOUGH WHEN THE FIRST ONE WAS EXPLAINING IT, THE IMPERVIOUS COVER IS CALCULATED IN THE SAME WAY.
THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT TOTALS.
UM, I CAN ALSO TELL YOU DRIVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NONE OF THOSE LOTS THAT ARE SF THREE ARE TO THE MAXIMUM OF 45%.
SO BUILDING SOME CONDOS UP TO 55%, UH, EITHER JUST ON FIVE OH EIGHT OR AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON A WATER STORMWATER.
THAT IS, UM, AND THEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
ONE IS WHEN REDEVELOPING EXISTING CONDOS INTO EITHER LARGER CONDOS, UM, OR CONDOS THAT HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSE AFFORDABLE UNIT REQUIREMENTS BE MORE EFFICIENT THAN, UH, RE REZONING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH EXISTING FAMILIES.
UM, AND TO THAT NOTE, I HAVE MY QUESTION IS, IS REZONING FIVE OH EIGHT A CERTAINTY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE OUR TWO OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED ARE REZONE IT WITH, UH, SOME AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE UNITS OR REZONING PORTABLE UNITS, BUT JUST NOT MESSING WITH IT AN OPTION.
UM, THANKS SO MUCH, RACHEL, MANNY, RACHEL MANNING, PLEASE UNMUTE THE HOST WOULD LIKE YOU TO UNMUTE YOUR MICROPHONE.
YOU CAN PRESS STAR SIX TO UNMUTE RACHEL, PLEASE, AND MUTE.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, PETER SHELTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO USE OUR TIME FOR A VIDEO.
SO WE'RE IN OUR PLANT NURSERY AT CIRCLE ACRES NATURE PRESERVE.
UM, SO WE'RE ACTUALLY STANDING ON THE REMNANTS OF THE GROVE LANDFILL, WHICH WAS A SOLID WASTE MUNICIPAL DUMP BACK IN THE SIXTIES.
AFTER THE LANDFILL WAS CAPPED IN 1970, UH, PEOPLE WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO USE IT AS A LANDFILL.
AND SO IT WAS BEING DUMPED ON FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS ON TOP OF THE LANDFILLS.
SO THERE WAS A HUGE AMOUNT OF WASTE THAT WAS DUMPED HERE, MOSTLY FROM THE CLIFFS ABOVE US.
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SO WE HAD A 600 FOOT WALL OF TRASH WHERE WE TOOK OUT OVER A HUNDRED TONS OF IT WAS ROOFS METAL, CAR PARTS, TIRES, APPLIANCES, YOU NAME IT.IT WAS A HUGE, HUGE UNDERTAKING.
I STARTED BACK IN 2005 AND WHEN WE BEGAN, I THOUGHT THERE WAS NO WAY WE'RE GOING TO GET ANYWHERE ON THIS PROJECT.
BUT WITH LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF VOLUNTEERS HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO THIS AMAZING SANCTUARY FOR WILDLIFE.
SO WE OPERATE CIRCLE ACRES FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S IT'S A COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
PART OF THE ORIGINAL MISSION BEHIND CONVERTING THIS FROM A BROWN FIELD TO GREEN SPACES, MAKING IT ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME HERE AND ENJOY AND PARTICIPATE IN THE RECOVERY OF THIS LAND.
WE HAVE A TRAIL NETWORK THAT CONNECTS THE MONTOPOLIS COMMUNITY TO GREENVILLE PARK.
WE DO BIRD WALKS, UH, TREE ID WORKSHOPS.
UM, AND BY NEXT SUMMER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION CLASSROOM TO CONNECT THE LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS WITH THE PARK AND TO LEARN ABOUT NATURE AND HOW THEY CAN BE PARTICIPANTS IN HELPING THIS LAND RECOVER.
SO THE AREA BEHIND ME IS THE, BY THE WAY, KEMP PROPERTY.
UM, SO IT'S GOT THIS VALLEY RAVINE THAT KIND OF CUTS DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE PROPERTY.
THIS BORDERS, A 10 ACRE NAKED NATURE PRESERVE AND A 400 ACRE PARK, BUT THIS IS SOME OF THE MOST IN OUR BRAIN SPACE, BUT WE WANT TO BASICALLY PUT A ROAD IN CONDOS HERE.
WATSON WERE THERE TWO PEOPLE THAT HAD DONATED TIME FOR THAT VIDEO? DID YOU RUN THE FOUR MINUTES? THEY DID NOT DONATE TIME.
THEY MADE ARRANGEMENTS, BUT THE OTHERS.
I'M SHAVEZ WATSON WITH WALKING GROUP FIVE ONE TWO, AND A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE I'VE LIVED IN MONTOPOLIS.
I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT POSTPONEMENTS.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP STANDING FOR THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY DURING YOUR DECISION.
STEVE, IN PAST YEARS, I'VE ALMOST CONSIDERED A CAREER IN REALTY, BUT SEE THE INTERSECTIONALITY BETWEEN HOME OWNERSHIP AND LAND ACQUISITION IS INTENSE.
AND YOU ALL SEEM TO NOT CARE TODAY.
WE HEARD YOU PLAY AS RBG AND STAND FOR HISTORY, BUT GUESS THE FAMILIES HAVE IN THE HOMES IN THEM ON TOP OF THIS COMMUNITY REPRESENT AUSTIN BLACK AND LATINO HISTORY.
SINGLE FAMILY UNITS MUST REMAIN BECAUSE WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO AFFORD TAX INCREASES OR REZONING DURING OR AFTER THIS PANDEMIC.
AS OUR COLLEAGUES WENT, MCGEE SAID, IF THIS REZONING HAPPENS, IT'S OVER, WE'VE ALREADY ALLOWED INSANE LEVELS OF DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO NOW ALLOW INDIVIDUAL REAL ESTATE SPECULATORS TO GO OUT TO OUR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LAST WEEK.
WHEN IT IS TIME LIKE YOU HAD IN AUGUST, A GREG, JIMMY STAN, WITH THE PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE RECENTLY, AND THE REST OF YOU, WE KNOW YOU MIGHT DESCEND FROM THIS MAJORITY OPINION BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT YOUR EARRINGS IN YOUR SWAG ON TODAY, BUT PLEASE VOTE AGAINST ITEM 66 EVER.
EVEN IF IT COMES BACK AS ANOTHER ITEM, VOTE AGAINST IT, STAND AGAINST IT.
DO NOT ALLOW THE REZONING OF FIVE AWAY CHEMISTRY.
THE BROTHER SAID WE WANTED, WE JUST LIKED THE COMMUNITY THE WAY IT IS.
IF THAT'S NOT AUSTIN ENOUGH FOR YOU, ALL OF YOU NEED TO RESIGN IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE AUSTIN THAT I GREW UP IN.
WE WENT OFF INTO STATE HOW IT HAS IN SOME COMMUNITY AND GO BACK TO HOW IT WAS.
MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS I'M AS AN OVERVIEW.
JOSEPH AMERICAN ASKS A TECHNICAL QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE MR. GUERNSEY TO JUST CLARIFY IF THE PROPERTY HAS ONLY 18 DWELLINGS ARE, IF THERE'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE CONDOS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S SO MUCH A QUESTION, BUT YOU CAN GO AHEAD.
WELL, THE QUESTION IS BECAUSE YOU HEARD FROM US THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER AROUND 3:33 PM AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
SO MY POSITION ON THE ITEM WAS NEUTRAL BASED ON THE PREVIOUS
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TESTIMONY THAT I'VE GIVEN, BUT THE AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE NOT IN INCLUDED.I WANT THE CLERK TO CHANGE MY POSITION TO AGAINST BECAUSE THEY WERE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THE DEVELOPER.
SO IF HE CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION AND BASED ON WHAT I'M SEEING, IT SAYS 18 DWELLING UNITS.
THEN I WOULD JUST ASK THE CLERK TO CHANGE MY POSITION.
AND FROM A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE, MAYOR, I DO NEED TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THE FIRST SIX SPEAKERS HAD THREE MINUTES UP TO SUSANNA ALMANZA VIDEO, AND THEN YOU CHANGED IT TO TWO MINUTES.
AND SO, AS A MATTER OF A RECORD, I JUST WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE THAT HOUSE 28 40 SPECIFIES THAT A GOVERNMENTAL BODY SHALL ALLOW EACH MEMBER TO ADDRESS THE BODY BEFORE OR DURING THE BODY'S CONSIDERATION.
SO TODAY YOU ASKED TWICE THIS MORNING, IF THERE WERE ANY SPEAKERS ON THE LINE, AND I APPRECIATED THAT THE CLERK'S OFFICE CALLED ME BACK THIS AFTERNOON, YOUR PROCESS IS INCONSISTENT.
AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT PUBLICLY.
AND I WOULD ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CAN LIMIT THE TIME, BUT WE ARE PERMITTED TO SPEAK.
AS IT RELATES SPECIFICALLY TO 3,500 PECAN SPRINGS.
I JUST WANT TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WITHOUT THE TWO AFFORDABLE CONDOS, SPECIFICALLY ACROSS FROM THE NEW DAVID CHAPEL LOCATION, WHERE THEY PURCHASED 17 ACRES, BLACK PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO GO TO CHURCH, BUT THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SO ON, I TALKED TO HOPPER, MADISON COUNCIL MEMBERS MENTIONED EARLIER.
I HOPE WE DON'T LOSE AFFORDABILITY.
I WOULD JUST CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THE SMART HOUSING GUY IS OUTDATED.
AND SO I'M GOING TO ASK KATHY, TOVO A COUNCIL MEMBER.
TOVA IF YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT COUNCIL IS COMMITTED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT GUIDE IS 12 YEARS OLD AND IT SPECIFIES $125,000 FOR A CONDO, FOR SOMEONE WHO MAKES 80% AREA MEDIAN, FAMILY INCOME, I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE KEEPING AUSTIN WHITE IS NOT RIGHT.
AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY COMMENT.
WE HAD POSTED THE TWO MINUTE LIMIT FOR THE SPEAKERS FOR ZONING.
UH, AND, AND I APOLOGIZE IF WE, UH, DIDN'T COORDINATE WITH THE FIRST SEVERAL SPEAKERS, BUT WE'RE GIVING PEOPLE TIME AS WE HAVE POSTED, THEY JUST GO AHEAD WITH THE NEXT SPEAKER CHRIS RING.
IT WAS ON THE MESSAGE BOARD LAST NIGHT THAT WE HAD POSTED HELLO, GO AHEAD.
UM, CHRIS RING, I'M SPEAKING ON 59 AND 60.
THAT'S A ZONING CHANGE AT 3,500 PECAN SPRINGS ROAD.
AND, UH, TODAY I SHOULDN'T BE SPEAKING AT ALL.
AND IF I WAS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE SUPPORTING IT, UH, WE HAD A REALLY, IT LOOKED LIKE WE HAD A SOLID AGREEMENT AND WE MAY, UH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, BUT, UH, WE HAVE A CONDITION WE, UH, EARLY ON WE'VE ALL ALONG.
WE'VE HAD, UH, AGREEMENT AND COMMON GROUND WITH THROWER DESIGN ON A BUNCH OF TERMS. AND THEY GOT SPLIT BETWEEN THE CEO AND THE RC.
AND SOMEHOW IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT WITH IT HAS IT CONTAINS 15 ITEMS ARE ALL AGREED UPON THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SIGNED AND NOTARIZED THEIR COPY, AND IT WAS SENT TO THROWER DESIGN MONDAY, AND IT'S CRICKETS.
SO TODAY I'M FORCED TO OPPOSE IT, OPPOSE THE PLUM CHANGE IN THE, IN THE ZONING CHANGE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SIGNED RESTRICTIVE COVENANT TODAY.
YESTERDAY, MONDAY ME IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR WEEKS AND, UH, IT'S JUST DISAPPEARED.
UM, SO I HAVE TO ASK THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST IT TODAY OR POOR WHATEVER SOLUTION THERE IS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS NOT MY, NO, THIS IS NOT WHAT I DO.
THEY ASKED US TO SIGN AND WE DID, UH, THANKS, ELIZABETH KABBALAH.
HI, I'M THINKING OF AN ITEM 66.
UM, I'M GLAD THAT THE REZONING PROPOSAL HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
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I THINK IT'S STILL IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT DISPLACEMENT IN AUSTIN BECAUSE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS BEING MADE IN AUSTIN, EVEN WITH GOOD INTENTIONS ARE RESULTING IN VERY HIGH LEVELS OF AFRICAN AMERICAN DISPLACEMENT.I WATCHED A PRESENTATION BY UT PROFESSOR, DR.
EDWARD TANG, WHO EXPLAINED THAT AFRICAN AMERICAN DISPLACEMENT IS HAPPENING FASTER IN AUSTIN THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTRY THAT THEY'RE TAKING USED MAPS AND GRAPHS TO SHOW HOW WE ARE THE ONLY CITY IN THE NATION THAT HAS GROWN AT THE RATE.
WE'VE GROWN AND HAD A DECREASE, NOT ONLY IN OUR PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF AFRICAN AMERICAN RESIDENTS AND MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD AT WINTER PARK.
OVER THE 35 YEARS I'VE LIVED HERE, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION HAS DECREASED FROM OVER 40% TO LESS THAN 15%.
I KNOW SOME ARE ARGUING THAT THESE NEW UP ZONED DEVELOPMENTS WILL PROVIDE HOUSING THAT PREVIOUSLY DISPLACED FAMILIES CAN RETURN TO YOU.
I'D LIKE TO SEE STATISTICS ON HOW MANY PREVIOUSLY DISPLACED FAMILIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RETURN TO THE CITY FOR SO-CALLED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
MY GUESS IS THAT IT'S VERY FEW IS PLACEMENT AS A RESULT OF SYSTEMIC RACISM, WHETHER CONSCIOUS OR UNCONSCIOUS AND SHOULD BE LOOKED AT CAREFULLY ON ALL OF ZONING CASES.
SO WE CAN REVERSE THE RATE OF DISPLACEMENT AND BEGIN TO REPAIR SOME OF THE HARM WE'VE ALREADY CAUSED.
HI, I'M JUST CALLING, UM, AS A, IN DISTRICT ONE AND KATHY TOWBOATS, UM, DISTRICT MEMBERS, AND I'M CALLING TO SUPPORT THE, UH, COMMUNITY OF MONTOPOLIS AND ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY THERE AND COLLABORATE ON COMMUNITY LED INITIATIVES, AND THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE CO-CREATE A COLLABORATIVE FUTURE FOR THAT COMMUNITY RATHER THAN THE COUNCIL AND DEVELOPERS, UH, TELLING THE COMMUNITY WHAT'S BEST FOR THEM.
AND I'LL USE THE REST OF MY TIME.
DO YOU MIND IF I ASK A QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER, HOW GO AHEAD.
UM, SO NOT THIS LAST SPEAKER, BUT THE SPEAKER BEFORE MADE REFERENCE TO A PROFESSOR WHO TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE MIGRATION OF AFRICAN AMERICANS FROM, UH, AUSTIN, SHE SAID, EDWARD TANG, HIS NAME IS ERIC TANG, JUST IN CASE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING HIS, THE INFORMATION THAT HE'S PRODUCED.
UM, BUT THE CALLER BEFORE THAT, HE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT AN AGREEMENT THAT HE THOUGHT WAS SIGNED AND AGREED UPON.
WAS THAT THE PECAN SPRINGS ITEM? CAN SOMEBODY CLARIFY THAT FOR ME? SO TO ANSWER HIS QUESTION, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED AND AGREED UPON, BUT THE AGREEMENT WAS NEVER FILED BY WAY OF CHANGES THAT WERE MADE AFTER THE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED THERE JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
HELLO, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
I'M CALLING AN OPPOSITION TO ITEM 66 ZONING AT CHEMISTRY.
I UNDERSTAND THE ITEM IS POSTPONED, BUT I WANT TO ASK THAT COUNCIL LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF KIM STREET.
I'M A DISPLACED RESIDENT OF DISTRICT THREE.
NOW LIVING IN DISTRICT TWO, I FULLY UNDERSTAND THE CITY NEEDS LOW INCOME HOUSING, BUT WE CAN'T DO THIS AT THE PRICE OF LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS LOSING THEIR GENERATIONAL HOME.
60 TO 80% OF MSI FOR RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA IS NOT AFFORDABLE.
AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES SHOULD KNOW THAT AND FIGHT FOR BETTER FOR THEM.
I REALLY, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE KEEP HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION, THE SAME BITE OVER AND OVER ANY WAY YOU CUT THIS, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THIS TYPE OF ZONING RESULTS IN COMMUNITIES BEING TORN APART.
THIS IS SYSTEMIC RACISM AND THE ACTION COUNCIL HAS DECLARED RACISM, A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
BUT FOR SOME REASON, YOU REFUSE TO VIEW YOUR ACTIONS THROUGH A LENS OF ANTI-RACISM.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY DEVELOPERS ARE GIVEN A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND CITIZENS ARE TOLD, NOT ASKED, BUT TOLD WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM AS THOUGH THEY'RE CHILDREN AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, IT'S YOUR DUTY TO BE YOUR CONSTITUENTS VOICE.
IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO TELL THEM WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM.
IF COUNCIL REALLY WANTS TO COMBAT RACISM, THEN WE NEED TO WALK THE WALK AND BE ANTI-RACIST.
WE NEED TO STOP HIDING UNDER THE GUISE OF GOOD INTENTIONS.
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WE ALL KNOW HOW THIS STORY WILL END UP CONDOS.FAMILIES WHO HAVE LIVED THERE FOR GENERATIONS ARE PUSHED OUT TO PUT IT SIMPLY AFFLUENT WHITE PEOPLE WILL MOVE IN AND BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE WILL BE PUSHED OUT.
THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THIS TYPE OF UP ZONING IS ALLOWED EVERY SINGLE TIME, YOU KNOW HOW THE STORY ENDS.
YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND BE THEIR VOICE AND THEIR ADVOCATE.
THAT CONCLUDES ALL OF THE SPEAKERS AT CALDEN.
DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? WELL, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON THE CHEM CASE BEFORE JERRY, JUST TO LET US KNOW WHAT'S ON CONSENT AGAIN.
I THINK THERE WERE SOME THINGS, JERRY, THAT HE HAD SOME SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE TO CAN STILL STAY ON CONSENT.
MAYOR I'LL GO AHEAD AND REREAD THE AGENDA.
AND IF A COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO PULL AN ITEM AND THEY CAN JUST LET ME KNOW.
SO, UM, ITEM NUMBER 58 IS CASEY 14, 2018 ZERO ONE 41.
I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL.
ON SECOND READING, ONLY AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WOULD LIKE ME TO NOTE THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CASE, NOT COME BACK FOR THIRD READING UNTIL THE ISSUES THAT, UM, ARE POINTED OUT BY COMMERCIAL PLAN REVIEW ARE ADDRESSED.
THOSE ISSUES ARE IN A DOCUMENT THAT WAS UPLOADED TO THE BACKUP YESTERDAY.
UM, ITEMS 59 AND 60 ARE THE PECAN SPRINGS CASE.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UH, PULL THOSE FOR DISCUSSION SO WE CAN CLARIFY WHAT THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 61, K C 14, 2019 ZERO ONE 59.
THIS CASE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.
NUMBER 62, CASEY 14, 2020 ZERO, ZERO 84.
THIS IS THE CASE KNOWN AS THE TRAINING KITCHEN I CAN OFFER FOR THIS FOR A CONSENT APPROVAL.
ON FIRST READING, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN HAS REQUESTED THAT THE ITEM PASS AGAIN ON FIRST READING, ONLY WITH G R M UCO OR THE ENTIRE TRACK.
UH, I DO HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT THE ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED GR MCO FOR THE PORTION THAT'S ALREADY ZONED GEO AND THEY RECOMMENDED I'M SORRY.
YES, IT'S ALREADY GEO AND G O M U FOR THE PORTION THAT'S ZONED AS HAVE THREE.
THIS MOTION WOULD BE FOR GRM UCO ON THE ENTIRE TRACK.
AND THE NEIGHBORS SUPPORT THAT REQUEST.
I DIDN'T NUMBER 63 IS CASE THREE IS K C 14, 2020 ZERO, ZERO 85.
WE DID HAVE SOME SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM, BUT I CAN OFFER IT FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS, UNLESS SOMEBODY WOULD LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 64 K C 14, 2020 ZERO, ZERO 65.
I CAN OFFER THIS CASE FOR CONSENT APPROVAL ON ALL THREE READINGS ITEM NUMBER 65 IS CASEY 14, 2020 ZERO HUNDRED 63.
WOULD ANY CUSTOMER LIKE THIS TO BE PULL A CUSTOMER OFF YOUR DESK? AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS YOU JUST KEEP RUNNING THROUGH THEM, JERRY, AND AGAIN, I'LL ASK PER CAPITA.
NUMBER 66 IS THE KEMP ZONING CASE.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 67 IS NPA 2020 ZERO ZERO ONE 9.01.
THIS IS A STEP POSTPONE REQUEST, OCTOBER 29TH RELATED CASES, ITEM 68, C 14, 2020 ZERO ZERO 26.
THIS ALSO HAS A STAFF WAS PROBABLY REQUEST TO OCTOBER 29TH.
RIGHT? AND SO I UNDERSTAND ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 66 IS BEING POSTPONED INDEFINITELY.
WHAT'S BEING PULLED SO FAR IS 59 AND 60.
I THINK THOSE WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT WE'VE PULLED SO FAR, UH, WHERE STILL GONNA PULL THE PIER PROPERTY.
I THINK I SAW COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON, AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
THERE WAS SOMETHING JERRY THAT RAN THROUGH TOO FAST FOR ME TO CATCH.
I WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION.
IT WAS, IT WAS PRIOR TO 66 TO, PRIOR TO THE BOAT DOCK.
IT LOOKED LIKE I WAS ASKING YOU TO PULL THE BOAT DOWN, BUT IT WAS THE ONE PRIOR TO, HE SAID, HE SAID WE COULD APPROVE IT ON ALL THREE READINGS UNLESS COUNCIL ONE, I DIDN'T CATCH WHAT NUMBER THAT WAS SURE.
THAT WAS A ITEM 63 LESS THAN LANE VILLAS.
SO, SO THAT I UNDERSTAND JURY, EVERYTHING IS ON CONSENT.
66 IS, UM, ON CONSENT AS A INDEFINITE POSTPONE.
IT'S 59 AND 62 PL UH, AND THEN I THINK I SAW CANDIES GO UP ON 65 FOR POLICE 65, THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO WANT TO PULL ANY OTHER ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
ALSO POST 65, ANYTHING OTHER THAN 59, 60
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AND 65 THAT WE WANT TO PULL.I'M GOING TO GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
BUT BEFORE I DO, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? THAT'S A MEMBER KITCHEN MAKES THE MOTION REMEMBER FOR MADISON SECONDS DISCUSSION NOW ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS THE CONSENT AGENDA IS 58 THROUGH 68.
WHAT'S PULLED RIGHT NOW ARE 59, 60 AND 65 MAYOR I'VE BEEN TOLD ATX AND MIGHT BE DOWN.
CAN WE GET, IT WOULD BE TO CONFIRM THAT, UH, WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
SO IF
I'M HEARING THAT FROM MY STAFF TOO, THAT THEY LOST.
I LISTENED TO INTERNAL
UM, BEAR, BEAR SPEAKING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I WANTED, I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ON CAMP, BUT AFTER HEARING SOME OF THE SPEAKERS AND FRANKLY, I WISH I COULD HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.
POSSIBLY THE SPEAKERS ARE, ARE GONE NOW.
AND I, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WERE ON THE LINE, UM, I GUESS I WANTED TO GIVE A, UH, I'M SORRY, THIS MIGHT GO A LITTLE LONG AND I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT AS SHORT AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO IT, TO A CASE THAT HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT RECENTLY, THIS CAME TO US.
UM, AND, AND, AND LET ME BACK UP A LITTLE, THE 10 UNITS CAN BE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW WITH NO WITH, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
IT IS ZONED A CERTAIN WAY RIGHT NOW.
SO ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A CHOICE HERE.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST PICK THE CHOICE TO DO NOTHING? WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THAT CHOICE.
THERE IT IS ZONED AWAY RIGHT NOW, BUT ALLOWS 10 UNITS.
UM, I, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK TO WHAT THE APPLICANT THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THEY, THEY CAME AND ASKED.
WE WANT MORE MARKET RATE, ALL MARKET, NOTHING AFFORDABLE, ALL MARKET.
I THINK THE RANGE WAS 350 TO 550, JUST TO GET, JUST TRY TO BE TRANSPARENT HERE BECAUSE I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SEE WHAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES.
WHEN THESE CASES COME UP, THE APPLICANT REACHES OUT TO COUNCIL OFFICES AND TELLS US, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IN THIS AREA.
I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE MEETING THAT I HAD AND MY ASSUMPTION THAT IT WAS SIMILAR TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO THE MEETING THAT MY STAFF HAD IMMEDIATELY SAID.
I CANNOT SUPPORT MARKET RATE CONDOS IN THIS PART OF AUSTIN THAT IS GETTING HEAVILY GENTRIFIED.
EVEN AT THREE 50, THREE 50 IS A LOT LIKE ALL THESE SPEAKERS HAVE VOICED THREE 50 IS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR SO MANY IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW.
UM, MY ASSUMPTION IS THEY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION 10 TIMES AND REALIZED THERE'S NO WAY, THERE'S NO WAY COUNCIL IS TO SUPPORT THIS LEVEL OF, OF, OF THIS UP ZONING AT THIS LEVEL.
THERE'S, THERE'S ALL THIS BACK AND FORTH THAT HAPPENS.
OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO REQUIRE ANYTHING WHERE IT'S AGAINST THE LAW FOR US TO SAY, I'LL ONLY SUPPORT IT.
IF YOU DO THIS WITH US, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
RIGHT? SO IT COMES BACK TO US IN THIS ITERATION.
NOW THEY CAN DO 10 AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY CAN DO 10, EIGHT, A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR HOMES.
IT'S SCARY THAT THIS COULD BE INDEFINITELY POSTPONED, AND INSTEAD THEY WILL DECIDE WITH TH THEY DON'T NEED ANY.
THEY NEED NO APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL TO BUILD 10 UNITS THAT COULD PROBABLY SELL FOR $80,000.
THAT IS, THAT IS THE TRUTH OF WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF WE INDEFINITELY POSTPONE THIS.
AND THEY DECIDED TO, TO NOT GO FORWARD WITH THIS.
UM, THERE WAS A, SO IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING OR NOT.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING RIGHT NOW.
UM, FOR ME, IT WAS A QUESTION OF, CAN THEY BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS ALL MARKET RATE AT 800,000? OR CAN THEY BUILD SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES SOME LEVEL OF AFFORDABILITY? SO MANY TIMES WE'RE GIVEN CHOICES ON THIS DATASET ARE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT.
I WAS GOING TO GO WITH THE CHOICE BECAUSE THAT IS A CHOICE.
WE CAN BUILD $800,000 HOMES RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT ANY APPROVAL FROM COUNCIL.
WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING FROM YOU.
WE GOT THE ZONING ALREADY, OR WE CAN BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS.
I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO PICK AFFORDABLE
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UNITS, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE INDEFINITELY POSTPONED, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT APPEAR.THERE IS THE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, WE CAN'T REQUIRE UNITS AT A CERTAIN PRICE.
WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT SAY YOU CAN GET THE ZONING AND YOU HAVE TO OFFER THOSE HOUSES AT $200,000.
I PROMISE YOU IF I COULD DO THAT.
IF WE, IF WE HAVE THAT POWER, THERE WOULD NOT BE A DEVELOPMENT IN EAST AUSTIN THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE THAT EVERY HOUSE BE $50,000 OR 60, WE CAN'T DO IT.
AND IT'S INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING AND IT'S HARD TO ACCEPT, BUT IT IS AGAINST STATE LAW FOR US TO DO THAT.
UM, LASTLY, I WANT TO SPEAK TO ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT PREDATORY LENDING, UM, OR I'M SORRY, PREDATORY, UM, SOLICITING ASKING PEOPLE CONSTANTLY TOGETHER, I'LL BUY YOUR HOME, I'LL BUY YOUR HOME.
UH, THAT'S WHY WE DO THE FAMILIES, NOT FLIPPERS, UM, INITIATIVE.
AND IN FACT, PART OF THE IS NOT FLIPPERS INITIATIVE WAS, WAS SEEKING TO EDUCATE, UM, UM, HOMEOWNERS TO SEEK AN ACTUAL, UH, YOU KNOW, A REALTOR TO KNOW WHAT THE REAL VALUE OF THEIR HOME WAS BECAUSE THESE, THESE, THESE PEOPLE PREY ON FAMILIES AND LOW BALL THEM AND FAMILIES THAT BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE YOU 20 YEARS AGO FOR SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.
IT'S A GOOD DEAL, BUT IT'S THEIR ACTUALLY, THEIR HOME IS ACTUALLY WORTH MORE.
AND SO IT WAS AN EDUCATIONAL EFFORT THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING ON TO, TO MAKE SURE FAMILIES KNOW THEIR RIGHTS.
UH, BUT PART OF THAT WAS ALSO GOING TO OUR STATE STATE LEGISLATURE.
AND I, IN FACT, TALK TO TWO OF OUR LEGISLATURE LIT AND ASKED, WILL YOU SPONSOR A BILL THAT PUTS SOME KIND OF PROHIBITION ON THIS KIND OF PREDATORY SOLICITOR, YOU KNOW, ASKING PEOPLE TO SELL THEIR HOMES, CONSTANTLY TEXT MESSAGE.
I'VE GOTTEN TEXT MESSAGES, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY IN THE MAIL.
UM, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF INTEREST.
NOBODY WANTED TO CARRY THAT BILL.
I WILL ASK AGAIN, IN THIS NEXT SESSION FOR ONE OF OUR LOCAL STATE LEGISLATORS TO CARRY THIS BILL THAT PROHIBITS THAT KIND OF PREDATORY ASKING TO BUY PEOPLE'S HOMES, BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS REALLY HURTING PEOPLE.
BUT I JUST, I HAD TO SAY THAT IT'S SO HARD BECAUSE I KNOW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BEING MISLED AND WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO GIVE SOME FAT TO GIVE FACTS AND I WILL SPEAK TO COUNCIL.
SO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER COSTAR'S OFFICE HAS SIMPLY TRIED TO GIVE FACTS AND THEY ARE ATTACKED IN THE MOST AWFUL WAY FOR FACTS.
I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU TO THE SPEAKERS WHO CALLED AND SAID, THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN A TRANSPARENT AND HONEST WAY.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO, I HAVE TO SAY AGAIN, WHEN WE, WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS TRY TO DO THAT, THEY TRY TO PUT OUT FACTS TO EXPLAIN THIS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT PROCESS AND THE DIFFICULT CHOICES THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE.
AND THE REALITIES OF, IF WE DO NOTHING, IF WE DO NOTHING TODAY, AND THIS IS AT THIS PROJECT, THEY CAN STILL BUILD, THEY CAN STILL BUILD 10 UNITS THAT COULD BE SOLD AT $800,000, AND WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.
SO, UM, I WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TO, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A CHOICE THAT INSTEAD OF 10 UNITS AT $800,000, UM, IT IS AFFORDABLE UNITS, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE THERE, BUT I HOPE WE CAN GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE RESPECT TRUTH AND FACTS.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN THIS, IN THIS POLITICAL CLIMATE HERE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE A RESPECT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE MAY NOT BE BROADCASTING ON, ON TAPE ATX AT, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE COUNCIL THAT THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH US PROCEEDING.
IF THAT'S TRUE, I CAN HEAR YOU.
I CAN HEAR YOU ON TV RIGHT NOW.
SO MID MAY OR THE MINIMUM, WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE BACK ONLINE BEFORE ANY BOATS WERE TAKEN.
SO PERHAPS THE CONVERSATION TO PROCEED, BUT CERTAINLY WE WANT TO GET THAT CONFIRMATION COMMITTEE EXTENDED BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH THE, AND IT'S CONFLICTING, OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL MEMBER THREE IS, IS IT'S HAVING US ALRIGHT.
A FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN.
I JUST WANTED TO, NOW THAT YOU SAID THE THING ABOUT TX AND IT MIGHT CHANGE THE NATURE OF MY REQUEST, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CONTINUE WITH MY PREVIOUS REQUEST TO GET SOME INFORMATION FROM THE RELEVANT DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE KIM CASE.
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TO, I HATE THAT, UH, ATX PIN WAS NOT BROADCASTING BECAUSE MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT WAS THE EMBODIMENT OF, I THINK, WHAT A LOT OF US ARE THINKING AND FEELING AND REALLY WANTING TO ASK SOME OF OUR COLLEAGUES, LIKE, WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO GET BEHIND THIS THING, GIVEN THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION? UM, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SO ELOQUENTLY STATING WHAT I THINK IS A POINT OF FRUSTRATION FOR MANY OF US.UH, BUT, UH, AND WE ARE BROADCASTING TO SOME PEOPLE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE TIME, OBVIOUSLY AFTER MY COLLEAGUES HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE THEIR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, BUT IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OPPORTUNITY, WHAT STAFF MEMBERS ARE YOU GOING TO WANT TO HAVE BROADLY WATERSHED PARRED, THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT? UM, I, I WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY THAT I WOULD ASK QUESTIONS OF, IF WE WERE CONTINUING TO DELIBERATE THIS AS THOUGH IT WASN'T BEING POSTPONED.
I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.
SO ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL OFFICER.
UM, THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED ABOUT THE ECOLOGICAL SENSITIVITY OF THE AREA, UM, ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER AND THE WATERSHED AND THE ADJACENT PRESERVE THAT'S PARD.
AND I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND, UH, THIS IS A POSTPONEMENT ISSUE, COLLEAGUES.
I MEAN, AS A DYESS, YOU COULD DECIDE WHAT NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION YOU WANT TO HAVE.
I'M GOING TO LET THIS HAPPEN BECAUSE IT APPEARS AS IF PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS, IS, IS FOR THIS, FOR HOW IT MIGHT COME BACK.
IF IT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING THAT CONTROL, THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO HANDLE IT ABSENT INTERVENTION, RIGHT BEFORE WE GET TO ANY OF THE STAFF COMMENTS.
I WANT TO GIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS A CHANCE THAT WERE RAISING THEIR HANDS TO BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER ALICE.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAP INTO THE, UM, KIM WHO'S REPPING THE OWNERS ON THIS.
AND PERHAPS WHAT WE DO IS POSTPONED FOR TWO WEEKS, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THE INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT CAN ALSO MEAN BRING IT BACK IN TWO WEEKS, EITHER WAY, IF THERE IS STILL THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PARTIES TO COME TOGETHER AND NOBODY HAS TAKEN THAT OFF THE TABLE.
SO, UM, I DON'T THINK DOING IT TODAY IN THIS SETTING IS A GOOD IDEA.
UM, I, I THINK WE NEED TO ALLOW A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE BETWEEN TODAY AND POTENTIALLY TWO WEEKS.
UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER WORK IN FRONT OF US TODAY THAT IS ALSO GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF, UM, A LOT OF EFFORT.
AND SO I WOULD URGE THAT WE STEP BACK, ALLOW THIS TO REST TWO WEEKS AND THEN TAKE IT UP THEN, BUT WE NEED TO CHECK IN WITH MISS BOGGIATTO AND THE PARTIES THAT SHE'S REPRESENTING TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT IS OKAY WITH HER AS WELL.
SO CAN WE PLEASE DO THAT AND HEAR FROM MS. BUDGET, PLEASE? THAT WAS THE QUESTION.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HAPPEN.
SO, AND I'VE ALREADY SAID WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO IN TERMS OF LETTING PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS AND MAKE COMMENTS.
I MEAN, TO THE DEGREE THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO THE CUTOFF DEBATE, WE CAN CERTAINLY ENTERTAIN THAT AND TAKE A VOTE ON THAT.
I THINK THE QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MEMBER POOL IS ASKING IS, IS THE APPLICANT OKAY, COMING BACK IN TWO WEEKS? SO SHE WAS A QUESTION THAT SHE HAD FOR THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT IS WITH US.
I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT TOO.
SO THE APPLICANT COULD ALSO STAND BY TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE RAISED THEIR HANDS.
I GOING TO LET PEOPLE GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK BEFORE WE START ASKING QUESTIONS OF ANYBODY.
SO OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK NOW ON THE DIOCESE.
I THINK I, I THINK I SAID, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS, I THINK WAS NEXT.
I HAD MY HAND UP BECAUSE I WAS STILL GETTING NOTICES THAT THE INTERNET FEED WAS DOWN, I THINK ON ATX SEN.
SO IT MAY BE A MATTER OF WHERE YOU'RE WATCHING, BUT THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE WHO JUST MISSED A FANTASTIC SPEECH BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM.
SO IF YOU DIDN'T CATCH THAT, WRITE YOURSELF A NOTE TO GO BACK AND LOOK WHEN IT IS POSTED LATER.
SO I THINK IT'S WORKING, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE HAVING TO REFER TO REFRESH A LOT RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE IT CONTINUES WORKING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE DIOCESE AT THIS TIME? UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR.WHEN WE GET TO THE STAFF PART, I HAD STARTED TO ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE AND NONE OF YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS SAYING BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO ASK THEM THROUGH MY COMPUTER, BUT I DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF AS WELL, BUT I, UM, AND I HAD QUESTIONS THE SAME FOR LEAH BOGGIATTO THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER POOL RAISED ABOUT THE TIME OF CABLE.
AND I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE INDEFINITE VERSUS, OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO PULL, WE'RE GOING TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 66 OUT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO WHAT IS NOT IN THE CONSENT AGENDA RIGHT NOW IS 59, 60 65 AND 66.
THE OTHER ITEMS ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO MR. ALTER, I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER TOMO WOULD BE OKAY IF WE PUT 65 BACK ON CONSENT, SOME FIRST READING, AND THEN I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IF SHE IS OTHERWISE I'LL WAIT TILL WE PULL IT LINE.
SO I WAS ASKING WHETHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE QUESTION KATHY WAS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD SO I CAN PUT IT BACK IF IT'S FRUSTRATING.
I JUST, I COULDN'T RESPOND QUICKLY ENOUGH BECAUSE I WAS STILL MAKING SOME COMMENTS ABOUT CAMP, BUT YOU HAD GONE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT FOR NOW.
IF I COULD JUST SPEAK FINE WITH HANDLING IT ON FIRST READING, I DO HAVE QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT WE CAN HANDLE THEM AT ANOTHER, AT ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING OR AT A WORK SESSION.
WE ALWAYS HAVE WORK SESSION TO TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WE HAVE ABOUT ZONING TOO.
AND SO PERHAPS THAT'S, PERHAPS WE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THE PEER AS WELL.
SOME OTHER ITEMS ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN OBJECTION? I'LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO IT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO 65 GOING BACK ON SITE FOR FIRST WEEK ONLY HEARING NON PEER GOES BACK ON READING OLD COLLEAGUES.
IF YOU'RE NOT TALKING, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND MUTE, MUTE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, FOR ITEM 65, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO CAME AND SPOKE WITH US TODAY.
UM, I DO, UM, WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I'M TAKING YOUR CONCERNS VERY SERIOUSLY.
THE INITIAL QUERIES THAT WE'VE HAD, UM, WITH STAFF, UM, INDICATE, AND YOU CAN READ THEM IN THE Q AND A THAT, UM, THE ZONING DOES NOT ALLOW GAS STATIONS WITHOUT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC, UM, PROCESSES, MEETING AND ASSESSMENTS AND VOTES.
UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THE INITIAL PART THAT WE'VE HEARD.
WE POSTPONE THIS, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH PUTTING THIS FORWARD ON FIRST READING AT THIS TIME, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE DOING SECOND OR THIRD READING GRANTING FINAL APPROVAL BECAUSE I STILL HAVE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS.
AND I WANT TO ASSURE THOSE WHO DID COME, WHO HAVE CONCERNS, THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, UM, THAT WE WILL BE WORKING TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, RATHER THAN GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT BACK AND FORTH ON THE DAYAS.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH FIRST READING.
UM, AND THEN WE CAN, UM, TAKE IT UP IN THE INTERIM AND EARLY NEXT WEEK.
UM, WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH EACH OF YOU HAVE WRITTEN TO US TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD, HEAR YOUR ADDITIONAL PERSPECTIVES, ANSWER QUESTIONS, OR FIND QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO, UM, RUN THE TRAPS WITH WITH STAFF.
UM, SO IF YOU'VE EMAILED US, SO YOU WILL, YOU WILL HEAR FROM US IF YOU HAVEN'T EMAILED US, UM, FEEL FREE TO DO SO, UM, OR YOUR NEIGHBORS CAN UPDATE YOU.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY THIS'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD ON FIRST READING AND WE CAN CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION AND MAKE SURE WE GET ALL OF THE ISSUES ADDRESSED.
AGAIN, WE'RE SPEAKING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS ALL ITEMS EXCEPT 59, 60 AND 66.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? I'M SORRY, WHAT? TENSION ON 65.
THE ABSTENTION ON 65 IS NOTED.
LET'S TAKE A VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
THOSE OPPOSED SHANANA MISS ON THE DICE.
WE HAVE 59 AND 60 AND WE HAVE 66.
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LET'S DO 59 AND 61ST.MAYOR I DIDN'T NUMBER 59 IS CAUSE NPA 2019 ZERO ZERO ONE 5.02.
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WHICH IS ONLY CASEY 14, 2019 ZERO ONE 64.THE CASE DOES HAVE A VALID PETITION.
BOTH THESE CASES ARE OFFERED FOR THIRD READING.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE SECOND READING WHICH OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, UH, THE ORDINANCE IS PREPARED IT'S IN THE BACKUP.
IT DID INCLUDE A LIMITATION OF 18 UNITS, UM, AS WELL AS SOME SITE DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
AND I ALSO NEED TO NOTE THAT IF THE CASE IS APPROVED ON THIRD READING, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT UNDER PART II OF THE ORDINANCE, THE 10 FOOT VEGETATIVE BUFFER, THIS REFERRED TO BE MODIFIED TO AN EIGHT FOOT VEGETATIVE BUFFER WITH THAT I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT IS THE EMOTION THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL? WHAT'S THE, USUALLY, USUALLY THE MOTION WOULD BE TO APPROVE ON THIRD READING.
WHAT WAS APPROVED ON SECOND READING, UNLESS THERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE MOTION.
SO MY QUESTION IS REALLY ABOUT THE UNIT LIMITATION.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ADMITTEDLY CONFUSINGLY ON TUESDAY, CAUSE THERE'S SIMILARITIES BETWEEN CASES AND, UM, MY WIRES WERE A LITTLE BIT CROSSED, BUT, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE 18 LIMITATION IS ACTUALLY FEWER DWELLING UNITS THAN WOULD BE ELIGIBLE UNDER SS THREE.
CAUSE YOU COULD DO 18 DUPLEXES ON THE REST OF THREE, AND THIS WOULD HAVE LIMITED TO 18 DWELLING UNITS.
AM I DOING THE MATH RIGHT ON THAT, JERRY, ROUGHLY? UM, THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE PROBABLY BEST TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THE CITY STAFF HAS NOT, OF COURSE LAID OUT A DUPLEX PLAN.
MAYBE WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, MAN.
SO THE APPLICANT HERE ON 59, 60 MAYOR, RON THRILLER IS ON, IF HE JUST WANTS TO UNMUTE HIS LINE, HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APP ON 59 60? YES.
I THINK JUST FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE IMPORTANT DURING THE COURSE OF THIS CONVERSATION THAT MR. THROWER COULD SPEAK TO WHAT THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL WAS FOR UNIT COUNT THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE PEOPLE WATCHING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME, RON? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
UM, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARBOR MADISON, THE, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST, THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT BACK IN JUNE THAT WE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS TO INCLUDE 25 UNITS OF WHICH TWO WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
AND, UH, IF I MAY, AT THIS TIME ALSO ANSWER A COUNCIL MEMBER.
FLANAGAN'S QUESTION ABOUT THE PRACTICALITY OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE PROPERTY UNDER EXISTING ZONING, THERE IS EXISTING FLOOD PLAIN ON THE PROPERTY AND THE SUBDIVISION OF THE PROPERTY COULD YIELD NINE OR 10 LOTS, WHICH WOULD BE 18 TO 20 UNITS.
MAYBE THAT MAY EVEN BE A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH.
UM, BUT YES, IT IS PRETTY MUCH EQUAL TO THE REQUEST OF 18 UNITS THAT IS ON THE ORDINANCE.
DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS, UM, COUNSEL? I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO VICTORIA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOUR PRESENTATION.
UH, WE DO THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH DIALOGUE, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICES ABOUT THIS CASE AND IF Y'ALL WANT TO SEE IT, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO DO IT.
THAT GETS US THEN BACK UP TO THE, TO THE DESK.
YES, BECAUSE WE'RE FLAT AGAIN.
SO I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CASE WITH THE 25 UNITS LIMIT.
THEY WORK THROUGH WHAT WE APPROVED ON SECOND READING WITH A 25 UNIT LIVING MAYOR.
DOES THAT INCLUDE COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE CHANGE IN THE VEGETATIVE BUFFER FROM 10 TO EIGHT FEET? YEAH.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS CAST MEMBER HARPER, MADISON SECONDS COUNTS VERY FLAT AGAIN, YOU CAN SPEAK FIRST TO IT IF YOU WANT TO.
YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR THE CHANGE IN THE UNIT CAP, THIS IS ACTUALLY A DOWN STONING IS IT'S HAVING A BUNCH OF CEO'S THAT WOULDN'T HAVE APPLIED OTHERWISE.
AND IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ABILITY TO GET A COUPLE OF UNITS AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 18 AND 25 GETS YOU A COUPLE OF AFFORDABLE UNITS, I MEAN, THAT IS PRECISELY THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE WANT TO DO WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPEND ANY TAXPAYER MONEY IN ORDER TO GET THEM
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MOVED AND SECONDED, FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN, JUST CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION, UH, OR, OR, AND, OR IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR MR. SCHROER.SO WHEN WE SAY CAP OF 25 ON IT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHICH I THINK IS TOO, IS THAT RIGHT? DO I HAVE THIS RIGHT COUNCIL MEMBER? THIS IS TREY
UM, THE COUNCIL CANNOT REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT DUE TO STATE LAW.
WELL, IT'S A QUESTION FOR MR. THROWER THEN I JUST, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S THINKING.
COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, RON WE'RE HERE.
UH, THE, UM, THE ORIGINAL REQUEST IN JUNE WAS FOR 25 UNITS, WHICH OF WHICH TWO WOULD BE AFFORDABLE, HOUSING VOLUNTARY.
YOU HOPE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO IS THAT THE, IS THAT THE CONTINUED THINKING ON IT THEN MR. THROWER? IT ABSOLUTELY IS.
THE CLIENT IS FIRMLY COMMITTED TO DO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO THANKS.
SO I GUESS I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION FROM MR. RESTIVE, AND I KNOW THIS HAS GONE ON FOR QUITE A LONG TIME AND THE NEGOTIATIONS HAVE GONE ON FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAD COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
I, BUT THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY AGREED ON.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAD, SO I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF THE QUESTION IS FOR MR. SEVEN OR FOR VICTORIA HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I KNOW THAT THEY HAD COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE, NOW THAT WE'RE NOW CHANGING, UM, HERE ON THE DIET.
SO THIS IS, UH, JUST, UH, CAN I ASK THAT QUESTION PLEASE SAYS, UM, UH, VICTORIA FOR THE APPLICANT, RIGHT.
CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD.
THIS IS VICTORIA WITH DIANE APOLOGIZE.
I WAS TRYING TO GET ON EARLIER AND SOMETHING WASN'T WORKING, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TURBO.
UM, THROUGH, UH, UH, MANY, UH, SERIES OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP WITH AGREEING TO 18 UNITS, UM, WITH NONE OF THOSE UNITS BEING AFFORDABLE.
AND, UM, WE ARE STILL AGREEABLE TO THAT.
UM, I JUST, I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER FLANAGAN HAS, UM, MADE A MOTION FOR THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS SET BACK IN JUNE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO, BUT, BUT YEAH, WE, WE DID COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 18 UNITS.
SO YOU'VE BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE JUNE.
YOU CAME TO AN AGREEMENT FOR 18 AND YOU ARE STILL SUPPORTIVE ON BEHALF OF YOUR CLIENT.
YOU ARE STILL SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AGREEMENT AS IT STANDS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 18 UNITS.
UM, IF, IF COUNCIL DOES WISH TO, UH, UH, GO WITH, UH, A 25 UNITS WHERE TWO OF THOSE CAN BE AFFORDABLE, WE ARE ALSO OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL.
THANKS FOR THAT CLARITY COUNSEL, FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON.
WE'RE NOT ADJUSTING THE ARRANGEMENT OR THE AGREEMENT FROM THE DIAS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE IT CAME BACK TO US, THE WAY IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME AND MAYBE VICTORIA CAN CLARIFY FOR ME WAS THAT THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT AND THEN THE AGREEMENT WAS EXTENDED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE, YOU KNOW, IN THAT PROVERBIAL DAY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGED THE AGREEMENT, WHICH NULLIFIED THE AGREEMENT, IT WASN'T COUNCIL THAT CHANGED THE AGREEMENT.
IT WAS THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT CHANGED THE AGREEMENT BY ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL PROVISION THAT WASN'T IN THE AGREED UPON LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENT, WHICH MADE THE DOCUMENT NULL AND VOID.
AND SO YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT TRANSPIRED THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON.
UM, WE DID HAVE AN AGREEMENT, UH, FOR 18 UNITS AND THERE WAS A PRIVATE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT WE HAD COME TO AN AGREEMENT FOR.
WE SENT THAT DOCUMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE EXECUTED, AND WE ALSO SENT THE SAME DOCUMENT TO OUR CLIENT TO BE EXECUTED OR THE LANDOWNER.
AND, UM, WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS SIGNED THEIR AGREEMENT AND SENT IT TO US, WE FOUND THAT THEY HAD MODIFIED THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, UM, TO THE DEGREE THAT WE, WE COULD NOT SUPPORT IT.
UM, WE ARE STILL IN SUPPORT OF, OF,
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UH, THE AGREEMENT OF 18 UNITS, BUT WE CANNOT, UM, WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD IN SUPPORT OF THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT AS THEY HAVE MODIFIED IT.UM, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE SIT.
I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION MAY OR MAY I, MAY I CLARIFY MY POINT PLEASE? YES.
I'M SORRY THAT I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE AGREEMENT AS IN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT.
AND, UM, MY STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH VICTORIA AND WITH THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
UM, AND SO I WAS FAMILIAR WITH THAT BACK AND FORTH OVER THE RESTRICT OF COVENANT BY AGREEMENT.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE, THE AGREEMENT THAT THE APPLICANT APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HAD COME TO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR EIGHT TWO UNITS.
AND I KNOW I ASKED VICTORIA TO CLARIFY THAT A FEW MINUTES AGO AND SHE HAS, BUT THAT IS NOT THAT, THAT IS, THAT IS, THAT IS STILL THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE AND TENTS, UM, THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH 18 AS THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT THAT CAME THE AGREEMENT WITH A LITTLE A, BUT THEY CAME TO WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY STILL STAND BY THAT.
UM, THE MODIFICATION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT WAS MADE OVER THE SETBACK.
UM, WHAT I'M REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT HAS BEEN NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH, AN APPLICANT, AND AN APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE THAT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATING WITH GOOD FAITH.
THEY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT AT 18 UNITS THAT, THAT HERE TODAY, UM, IS BEING PROPOSED TO BE DIFFERENT.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAME INTO THIS PREPARED TO SUPPORT THIS.
THAT'S BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD FAITH ON, ON ALL SIDES AND A LOT OF GOOD WORK.
AND I CAME INTO THIS PREPARED TO SUPPORT IT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER PLAN AND GETTING A MOTION TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT REFLECTIVE OF, OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS STRUCK BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS ON THE APPLICANT, I MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE JUST WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD OF SAYING THAT IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THIS PROJECT, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR 25 UNITS WITH TWO OF THOSE AFFORDABLE, WE ARE AGREEABLE TO THAT.
BUT WE ARE ALSO AGREEABLE WITH KEEPING OUR AGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 18 UNITS.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
I THINK WE'RE JUST FACED WITH A CHOICE AS A COUNCIL.
WE CAN EITHER ZONE THIS PROPERTY FOR 18 UNITS WITH NO AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS, OR WE CAN ZONE IT FOR 25 UNITS AND GET TWO AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS WITHOUT HAVING TO SPEND ANY OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS OR ANY OF THE OTHER MONIES THAT WE HEARD FROM MONTOPOLIS.
THEY REALLY WANTS TO BE SPENT IN THEIR CORNER OF THE CITY.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALWAYS HARD CHOICES FOR US, BUT, BUT I THINK THIS ISN'T, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD MOMENTS WHERE WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES IF WE REALLY MEAN IT.
WHEN WE SAY WE WANT TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE WANT TO HAVE AFFORDABLE UNITS, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 10 AND A HUNDRED, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A PROPERTY THAT'S DISPLACING CURRENT RESIDENTS.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
UM, AND SO, AND, AND THE APPLICANT HAS MADE IT CLEAR IF WE, IF WE DON'T DO THE 25, THEN THEY'LL BUILD 18 WITH NO AFFORDABILITY.
AND I THINK IT'S BETTER TO GET AFFORDABILITY EMOTION.
AND A SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, 59, 60 COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER THE COUNCIL NUMBER KITCHEN.
JERRY, I WAS TRYING TO SEE, AND THE BACKUP TO CLARIFY WHAT WAS IN SECOND READING AND THE CEO.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS 18 IN THAT.
YES, BECAUSE REMEMBER THE NUMBER OF UNITS WAS 18 IN THE SECOND READ EMOTIONAL.
UM, I'M, I'M KIND OF, I NEED A, I NEED SOME KIND OF GUARANTEE IF THEY GET 25 OR THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE AFFORDABLE UNITS AND OPPOSITE THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, I DON'T SEE HOW WE, HOW WE DO THAT.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T ZONE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, FOR IT.
AND YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE ARGUMENT HERE IS ALL THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT.
AND I'M JUST VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS WHOLE CHANGE IN THE CONVERSATION HERE MAY, OR MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD MOMENT FOR ME JUST TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT LIKE JERRY
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SAID, WE CANNOT REQUIRE AFFORDABILITY.IF THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO DO SOMETHING, THAT'S GREAT.
THEY MIGHT NOT, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING IT.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT MONITORING IT.
SO IT'S NOT THE REASON FOR YOUR ZONING DECISION TODAY.
AND APPARENTLY EVERYBODY CAN SEE ATX AND NOW CATS ARE IN THE KITCHEN.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION THAT, UM, ACTUALLY I WAS GOING TO ANSWER FOR MYSELF AND NOW I CAN'T FIND IT.
UM, I WAS THINKING THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, I THOUGHT WE SAID 24.
DID I JUST MISS HERE THAT, AND NOW WE'RE SAYING 25, UM, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN ME, HER HEARING WRONG AND IT WAS 25.
SO, UM, AND SO THEN THE LAST QUESTION THEN IS SO, UM, MR. STOLLER, UM, SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, THAT THOUGHTS THAT YOU HAVE SIGNED AND WE'RE READY TO SIGN IT, A DONE DEAL WAS THE SETBACK, WAS THAT IT, THAT DIDN'T WORK FOR YOU, A COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.
IT WAS MODIFIED TO INCLUDE A SETBACK, UM, ALONG PECAN SPRINGS ROAD.
AND I BELIEVE THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE UP AGAINST IS THAT THEY ARE SIGNED VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT IS DIFFERENT THAN THE SIGNED VERSION WE HAD DELIVERED YESTERDAY FROM HOUSTON.
YEAH, NO, I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, UH, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IS.
I MEAN, I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A CASE THAT'S GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
IT JUST SEEMS THAT THAT'S A PRETTY SMALL DIFFERENCE THAT COULD BE RESOLVED.
THAT'S THE QUESTION IS, DID THE APPLICANTS, CAN YOU HOLD THE PHONE CLOSER, KATHY? SURE.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS A CONVERSATION AROUND, UH, HAVING AN AFFORDABLE UNIT VOLUNTARILY AGREED UPON WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IF, IF THERE WERE 21 UNITS, IS THAT ACCURATE? UM, YES.
THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE ITERATIONS, UM, THAT WE HAD GONE THROUGH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, UM, THEY, THEY STARTED OUT AT 18 UNITS.
WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM TEMPORARILY FOR 21 UNITS WITH ONE UNIT BEING AFFORDABLE.
UM, BUT, UH, THEY PULLED THEIR POOL.
THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE THAT AGREEMENT, UH, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY.
AND, UM, WE ENDED UP WITH 18 UNITS.
UM, AND SO CAN I ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST IN POSTPONING THIS FOR TWO WEEKS TO GET THAT DOCUMENT SIGNED, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
CAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE OF THE BACK AND FORTH, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IS NOT CURRENTLY IS NOT CURRENTLY EXECUTED.
WE, WE CANNOT POSTPONE ANY LONGER.
UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MADE IT CLEAR TO US THAT THEY DID NOT WANT ANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, AND WE, OUR, OUR CLIENT NEEDS TO MOVE NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'VE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR 11 MONTHS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE TO HAVE A DECISION THIS AFTERNOON.
I'M MR. THROWER, WHICH I RAN THE MAYOR, I GUESS I'LL GO AHEAD.
YOU CAN ASK THAT QUESTION AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER.
MADISON'S REQUEST TO BE ABLE TO ASK STAFF SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, SO I WANT TO ASK MR. THROWER, UM, IF THEY HAVE A PRIVATE AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE GIVING A TEAM, THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS, AND IF SO, WHO IS THAT AGREEMENT WITH REMEMBER ALTAR? UM, WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, ENTITY AT THIS TIME.
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WHEN THIS IS REMINDER, WE DID HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT FIRST READING FOR THE 25 UNITS AND TWO UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAD THEM CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.THEY WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN BLAZE WITH AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ENTITY.
UM, BUT AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT.
UM, BUT WE'RE, AGAIN, MY CLIENTS, I CAN JUST TELL YOU, HE IS 100% COMMITTED TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME INTERESTING DYNAMICS HERE.
OR THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
COUNCIL MEMBER HOPPER, MADISON, WHO DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK WITH? UH, MAYOR? JUST TO BE CLEAR.
THE ITEM THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO FOLKS WAS FIVE OH EIGHT KIM.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HAD BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
LET'S TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF FILING A RESOLUTION.
THOSE OPPOSED THOSE ABSTAINING.
I HAVE AN ABSTENTION FROM ALTER TOVO AND PULL THE OTHERS VOTING.
THE ITEM HAD A VALID PETITION REQUIRES NINE VOTES.
I CAN'T STAY HERE, I GUESS YOUR SPIN ON THAT FOR AWHILE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 18 UNITS, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL INTENTION, I THINK ON THIS ITEM TODAY.
PAUL MAKES THE MOTION TO APPROVE AS RECOMMENDED ON THE SECOND READING WITH THE, A BUFFER AT HOW MANY FEET JERRY THERE, IT WOULD BE FOR THIRD READING AND IT WOULD, UM, AMEND THE PARTY OF THE ORDINANCE AND CHANGE THE BUFFER FROM 10 FEET TO EIGHT FEET IS TO PASS IT ON THIRD READING WITH A BUFFER AT EIGHT FEET TO 18 UNITS.
UH, IS THERE A SECOND TO THIS MOTION? UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TOVO SECONDS, THE MOTION DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FROM POOL AND WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WERE TOBO CLOSER TO YOUR PHONE.
I'LL LET, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER POPE SPEAK FIRST, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY I WOULD ALSO BE OPEN TO THE 21.
IF THE APPLICANT CAN CONFIRM IF THE APPLICANT CAN DISCUSS WHETHER THEY WOULD STILL BE OPEN, WHAT THEIR PLANS WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, AT THAT LEVEL, I'M NOT GOING TO 21, NOT AS A QUID PRO QUO, I'M JUST CONSIDERING THE 21 AS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, I'M THINKING DISCRETIONARY SPENDING ABILITY, COUNCILOR PAUL, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS YOUR QUESTION BEFORE WE HEAR MINNEAPOLIS GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE, UM, ARE PROHIBITED FROM ZONING, WHICH I HOPE TO CHANGE IN THE NEXT LEGISLATURE.
SOME OF COURSE THAT IS KIND OF THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE CONFRONTED WITH REGULARLY HERE, WHICH HAS REALLY COMPETED OUR, UM, OUR WORK TO BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.
UM, CLEARLY WE ALL ARE INTENT UPON DOING THAT.
UM, I ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE, UM, UH, BEEN TRYING TO WORK AND HAVE BEEN WORKING, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT AND, UH, UH, ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
AND I WANT TO THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AS WELL, UM, 18 UNITS, UM, 21 UNITS WITH ONE PROMISED VOLUNTARILY AFFORDABLE UNIT WOULD ALSO BE FINE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE WITHIN THE SHOOTING DISTANCE OF WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AGREED TO, WHICH IS WHY I HAVE BROUGHT US BACK TO THE 18 UNITS.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANTS TO SPEAK TO APPLICANT COUNSEL FOR MADISON TO SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER TABOS SUGGESTION THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE MIDDLE AT 21 WITH THE, UM, WITH THE PROMISE OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WORD IT TO WHERE LEGAL DOES IT SLAP ME ON THE HAND? UH, THE AFFORDABLE UNIT.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE, BOTH FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THAT IT'S TO THROW OR YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
UM, WE WOULD ALSO BE AGREEABLE TO THE 21 UNITS
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AND OFFER ONE GLADLY AS A, UH, ONE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.WE ALSO TRULY WANT THIS PROJECT DONE.
AND OVER WITH TODAY, UH, WE HAVE SPENT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS OVER THE LAST 11 MONTHS ON THIS TINY PROJECT TO BRING WHAT MAY JUST BE 18 UNITS IN THE END.
AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST CONSIDERATION TODAY.
AND LIKE WE HAD SAID, WE'RE WILLING TO GO WITH THE 18 AS IS ALWAYS THE OPTION IS THERE FOR 21 UNITS WITH ONE UNIT AFFORDABLE.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF I HAVE TO BUY THE UNIT MYSELF, I WILL PUT HIM IN MY MOTION TO THE 21 WITH THE VOLUNTARY ONE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO COUNCIL MEMBER POET CHANGING YOUR MOTION TO BE 21 AS OPPOSED TO 18 AIRING? NOW THAT CHANGED, MADE THE MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS TO GO 21 WITH THE EIGHT FOOT BUFFER, THIRD READING, ANY OBJECTION, COUNSEL MEMBER, ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THAT AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT MY, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN 21 AND ONE AND 25 AND TWO, BECAUSE TWO IS BETTER THAN ONE.
SO WHY NOT CONTINUE UNITS? OKAY.
WHAT'S YOUR MOTION WHILE YOU PUT, YOU CAN'T MAKE HER ANSWER A QUESTION.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THAT WAY AND SHE CAN DEIGN TO ANSWER OR NOT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE DAYS AT STAKE? YES.
UM, I JUST, I HAVE TO POINT OUT IF ANYBODY'S STILL WATCHING THIS AND IS PART OF THE CAMP CASE THAT CAME EARLIER.
UM, THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE CHOICES WE HAVE AND WE COULD'VE PASSED SOMETHING WITH TWO AFFORDABLE UNITS AND IT HAS BEEN, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT.
SO NOW WE'RE, NOW THERE WILL BE ONE.
AND I KNOW THAT MR. THROTTLE WILL NOT NEED TO BUY THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE, IS A LINE OF THOUSANDS OF AUSTINITES WAITING TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD.
UM, I WILL OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WISH WE COULD HAVE DONE MORE.
AND MOVED AND SECONDED AND DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.
I THINK THAT, UH, JIMMY, MR. KASMIN FLAT AGAIN.
IT PASSES THAT'S FINAL PASSAGE.
21 UNITS FOOT SET BACK ON THIRD READING.
[66. C14-2020-0038 - 508 Kemp Street - Conduct a public hearing and approve second and third readings of an ordinance amending City Code Title 25 by rezoning property locally known as 508 Kemp Street (Country Club East Watershed). Applicant Request: To rezone from family residence - neighborhood plan (SF-3-NP) combining district zoning to townhouse and condominium residence - neighborhood plan (SF-6-NP) combining district zoning. First Reading: Approved townhouse and condominium residence - neighborhood plan (SF-6-NP) combining district zoning on August 27, 2020. Vote: 7-2. Council Members Alter and Tovo voted nay. Council Members Pool and Kitchen abstained. Owner: Johnny A. Steen. Applicant: Drenner Group (Leah M. Bojo). City Staff: Kate Clark, 512-974-1237. A valid petition has been filed in opposition to this rezoning request.]
CASE IS ITEM 66, SEE 14, 2020 ZERO HUNDRED 38 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT FIVE OH EIGHT 10TH STREET.UH, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE STAFF FROM ENVIRONMENTAL AND PARKS DEPARTMENT ON THE LINE.
EMOTION IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS TO POSTPONE.
IS THERE A, IS THERE A MOTION? HOW DOES A MEMBER HARPER, MADISON I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THE ITEM FOR ONE MONTH? YEAH.
MADISON MOVES TO POSTPONE THIS FOR ONE MONTH.
IS THERE JUST, IS THERE A SECOND COUNTS? REMEMBER QSR SECONDS.
UM, MARY, IF I COULD CLARIFY, WAS THAT BETWEEN NOVEMBER 12TH, THEN BY THE WAY, COLLEAGUES, I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE MEETING THAT WEEK ON NOVEMBER 12TH.
MOST LIKELY JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, TO BE CLEAR IS THIS ONE OF THE ONES WHERE IT SEEMS TO ME AS THOUGH, AS OF LATE, A LOT OF THESE CASES WERE COURT, THE NINE VOTES, SOMEBODY WITH MORE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAN I HAVE, IS GOING TO HAVE TO TELL ME AGAIN ON HOW WE GOT TO THIS PLACE WHERE SUDDENLY IT FEELS LIKE ALL THE ZONING CASES, REQUIREMENT NINE VOTES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT TRANSPIRED IN BETWEEN MY SWEARING IN JANUARY OF 2019 AND NOW TO WHERE WE NEED NINE IT'S ALL THE TIME.
UM, SO TO HAVE ONE OF Y'ALL WITH MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE TO SORT OF WALK ME THROUGH, HOW IS THIS ONE OF THE ONES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE NINE VOTES? IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN I'D RATHER WAIT UNTIL YOU'RE BACK MARY, EITHER.
THIS DOES HAVE A VALID PETITION ON FILE.
IN WHICH CASE I'D RATHER WAIT UNTIL THE FULL BODY IS PRESENT TO TAKE THE VOTE AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE NINE VOTES FOR WHATEVER THE MOTION IS ON THE TABLE AT THE TIME.
MAYOR MAY I SUGGEST WHAT'S THAT MEETING AFTER THE MEETING ON THAT
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WEEK? THAT WOULD BE DECEMBER 3RD.COULD I SUGGEST AN ALTERNATIVE? COULD I SUGGEST AN APPROACH? I DO THINK OUR PRACTICE IS USUALLY IF THE, IF THERE IS A VALID PETITION NOT TO TAKE A VOTE, UM, WITHOUT THE FULL BODY ON THE DIAS, DO WE HAVE A MEETING BEFORE THE NOVEMBER 12TH? I GUESS NOT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE ELECTION, BUT WE COULD SCHEDULE IT FOR NOVEMBER 12TH WITH AN UNDERSTANDING AMONG US THAT IF THERE AREN'T ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS IT ON THAT DAY, WE WOULD NOT TAKE A VOTE UNTIL WE HAD, UH, HAD YOU BACK ON THE DIET.
IF THAT'S AGREEABLE THAT WAY WE HAVE THE OPTION OF TAKING IT UP ON NOVEMBER 12TH.
BUT IF IT LOOKS AS IF THERE AREN'T ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS IT ON THAT DAY, WE WOULD HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'LL POSTPONE IT UNTIL YOU'RE BACK.
REMEMBER, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAST REMEMBER HER MEDICINE, CATHERINE HARPER, MADISON.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY MY HESITATION THERE IS, YOU KNOW, AS WE WITNESSED TODAY, THERE WERE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO CALLED, UM, AS YOU ALL HAVE PROBABLY WITNESSED BY WAY OF THE HEAVINESS OF YOUR INBOX THIS WEEK, THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ADVOCATING FOR, AND, OR AGAINST THIS CASE.
I DON'T WANT TO PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION TO WHERE WE UNNECESSARILY BURDEN, UM, THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HAVE TO COME BACK IN NOVEMBER.
AND THEN AGAIN IN DECEMBER, UM, I'D RATHER, WE JUST SHOOT STRAIGHT FOR ONE DATE WHERE WE'RE ALL HERE AND WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE, THE, UM, THE CONSIDERATION OF NOT HAVING TO COME BACK TWICE.
REMEMBER HARPER, MADISON MISSES THE POSTPONE, THIS TO DECEMBER 3RD, IT'S BEEN SECONDED.
NOW IN FRONT OF US DISCUSSION, DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT MAYOR PRO TEM? I HATE SOMEBODY, THE WATERS, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCES AND I PLEASE, IF SOMEBODY'S IN OCTOBER 29TH AND NOVEMBER 12TH, I THINK EVERYONE'S SCHEDULED TO BE HERE ON THE 29TH.
I THINK EVERYONE'S KIND OF LAID OUT, YOU KNOW, THE REAL ISSUES HERE AND, AND THE, AND, AND THIS STARTED WITH WANTING TO RESPECT THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SEEM LIKE PUT IT, PUT IT TO BED BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOTTEN SO TOXIC THE CONVERSATION AND SO FILLED WITH MISINFORMATION.
UM, I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE CAN'T, IF WE CAN'T TOGETHER AS A DIES, GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE KNOW WE KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE AND WE KNOW WHAT THE REALITIES ARE, AND WE CAN'T GET TO A PLACE BY THE 29TH AND THEN IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE PUT TO BED.
AND THEN THAT'S, THAT'S A SCENARIO WHERE THERE COULD BE ONLY 10 UNITS THERE AT UP TO $800,000.
THERE'S NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
I'M JUST, THAT'S, I'M JUST VOICING THAT.
AND I'LL JUST GO WITH THE CONSENSUS OF, OF THE DICE ON THIS.
THAT'S REMEMBER HARPER, MADISON, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH CHANGING THE MOTION FOR US TO TAKE THE ITEM UP ON THE 29TH.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO SORT OF FIND OURSELVES IN THE MIDDLE OF TWO WEEKS AND INDEFINITE AND A MONTH SOUNDED APPROPRIATE, BUT I'M ALL TOO HAPPY FOR US TO TAKE THIS UP ON THE 29TH AND GIVE EVERYBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, AS MAYOR PRO TEM.
SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT, PUT THIS THING TO BED.
UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I HAVE A FEELING THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE VOTES ANYWAY, UH, AND, UH, BUT I'M, I'M REALLY, I'M WILLING TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IF IT DOES NOT PASS, AND THIS WOULD BE A NICE CASE STUDY FOR US TO FOLLOW, TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM LOTS AND WHAT KIND OF HOUSING ACTUALLY GETS BUILT THERE.
AND IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE AN EYE OPENER OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WE NEED TO JUST PUT THAT ASIDE AND JUST MOVE ON AND WE CAN'T GET THE SUPPORT AND COUNCIL MEMBER FLATTENING IT.
AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, UH, I FOR ONE WOULD APPRECIATE EXTRA TIME.
UM, I TRIED OVER THIS PAST WEEK TO REACH OUT TO FOLKS AND, UM, IT WAS VERY TOUGH SCHEDULING TIME AROUND EVERYTHING ELSE TO ENSURE A ROBUSTNESS OF THE CONVERSATION.
UM, SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT MORE THAN TWO WEEKS, HUNDREDS, MAYBE THOUSANDS OF EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN EAST AUSTIN AND ELSEWHERE WITH NO ZONING CASE AT ALL, BECAUSE THEY, THEY ALREADY HAD THE ENTITLEMENTS AND IT ALREADY TURNED INTO A MCMANSION, OR AS,
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AS A FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER USED TO SAY, IT ALREADY TURNED INTO A SPACESHIP, DIDN'T REQUIRE A ZONING CASE.AND TH THE, THE OPTION AND THE OPPORTUNITY IN THE ZONING CASES TO GET SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN OTHERWISE.
UM, GIVEN THE, THE VOTES WE TOOK ON THE PRIOR CASE, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE EITHER.
SO RATHER THAN COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND RUN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A WHOLE NOTHER GAUNTLET OF PUBLIC INPUT AND, AND TEETH GNASHING TO NOT HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY MOVE THE NEEDLE.
IN MY OPINION, I WOULD PREFER INDEFINITE IN ORDER TO, TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE COMING BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY DOABLE, THAT GETS CONCERN.
UM, I AM OPEN TO WHATEVER PEOPLE WANT TO DO IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I, I WILL GO WITH WHO, WHATEVER THE MAJORITY WANTS ON THAT.
UM, AND DO YOU THINK THAT, UM, AND I'M HAPPY IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO CONTRIBUTE? UM, I DO THINK IT'S, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE IF SOMETHING COULD BE WORKED OUT WITH THIS AREA.
UM, I DON'T THINK THESE, THESE NEIGHBORS ARE, UM, YES, THERE MAY BE SOME THERE'S.
I CAN SEE THAT THERE'S MISINFORMATION GOING ON AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT AT ITS CORE, THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WHEN YOU'VE GOT A PETITION IS THAT SOMETHING'S NOT CONNECTING FOR THE NEIGHBORS THERE.
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT THESE NEIGHBORS DON'T DON'T WANT, UM, DON'T WANT TO DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT INVOLVES, UM, MORE AFFORDABLE HOMES.
SO I, UH, I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY'S WORKED REALLY HARD ON THAT.
AND, UM, SO I KNOW YOU ALL ARE REALLY TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT THAT OUT, AND JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, I'M HOPING WE CAN GET THERE AND I AM, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN DO TO BE OF ASSISTANCE, UM, I STAND READY TO HELP IS THEY IS A COUNSELOR.
I LIKE, UH, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER FLYING AGAIN.
I HAD SUGGESTED THE INDEFINITE BECAUSE THEN WE COULD BE BROUGHT BACK.
UM, IF PEOPLE TALKED AND SORTED SOMETHING OUT, UM, I, AGAIN, I THINK, UM, THAT AS A MAYOR PRO TEM GARDENS HAS SAID, BUT I THINK WAS CUT OUT ON A LOT OF, UH, OF THE VIDEO.
THIS STARTED OUT AS A CASE WHERE IT WAS A 3% AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR MAYBE ZERO, AND THEN IT GOT TO 3%.
AND THEN I AM MAYOR PRO TEM AND PROBABLY SEVERAL OTHERS OPPOSE THAT CASE.
AND THEN IT GOT BROUGHT BACK AT THIS MAJORITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PLACE.
I WOULD HOPE THAT WITH TIME, MAYBE PEOPLE TALK AND, AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE FACTS ARE MADE CLEAR THAT PEOPLE CAN COME AROUND TO, TO SUPPORTING THAT, UH, OR MAYBE WITH THAT TIME, THE BUILDERS DECIDED TO JUST BUILD HOUSES WITH 0% AFFORDABILITY, WHICH THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO.
I'M AFRAID THAT IF WE BRING THEM BACK IN TWO WEEKS, UM, THAT THERE IT'S NOT TIME FOR ANYBODY TO TALK, IT'S TIME FOR PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, TO, TO SPEAK AGAIN.
AND FOR US TO JUST DO OVER WHAT WE DID AGAIN, DID HERE TODAY.
SO AGAIN, I WOULD RATHER A MONTH OR, OR INDEFINITE UNTIL, UH, THERE'S SOME COMMUNITY MEETING UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT RISKS, THAT BRINGS A GREAT RISK THAT WE COULD WIND UP WITH 0% AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THERE INSTEAD OF MAJORITY.
SO, JERRY, LET ME ASK YOU THE QUESTION.
IF WE WERE TO SET THIS FOR A DATE, CERTAIN, AND IT'S ON THE AGENDA, WE WANT TO MOVE TO POSTPONE IT.
UH, IF IT, IF IT COMES UP, WE COULD STILL HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO COME AND SPEAK AGAIN, AS WE DID TODAY.
UM, UH, KNOWING THAT NO ACTION WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN TO APPROVE IT.
IF WE POSTPONE SOMETHING INDEFINITELY AND SAY, JUST BRING IT BACK WHEN, AND IF THERE'S ACTUALLY A SUFFICIENT AGREEMENT.
SO AS TO, UM, UM, LET US TAKE ACTION MOVING IN, GIVEN THE VALID PETITION, UH, DO WE THEN HAVE TO RE NOTICE, UM, FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT UP, PUT ON OUR AGENDA AGAIN? YES.
IF, IF THE ITEM WERE PUT ON THE AGENDA, EVEN IF WERE POSTPONED BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN STATE LAW THAT WAS MADE RECENTLY, YOU WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO LET ANYONE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM.
UM, BUT YES, IF IT IS INDEFINITELY POSTPONED, THEN WHEN THE ITEMS ARE READY TO COME BACK, WE WOULD RE NOTIFY AND, UM, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS BECAUSE THE CASE IS ALREADY HAD FIRST READING.
INSTEAD IT HAS TO COME BACK FOR THIRD READING WITHIN 360 DAYS OF THE FIRST READING DAY.
AND HOW ONEROUS IS A RE RE NOTICING
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AT THIS POINT, IT WOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM.SO FOR ME, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE POSTPONE IT INDEFINITELY.
AND THEN IF THERE'S A, AN AGREEMENT'S SUFFICIENT TO, TO, TO CHANGE VOTES, UH, AND PEOPLE WILL KNOW TO PUT IT BACK ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S HOW I WOULD LEAD A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE DAY, UH, CAUSE OUR KITCHEN.
WELL, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER TOBA HAD HER HAND UP FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER.
I'D LIKE TO CALL ON, UM, LEAH BOJACK, WHO I THINK IS STILL ON HERE ON THE CALL AND ASK HER ABOUT THE POSTPONEMENT.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT POSTPONING IT BEYOND OCTOBER 29TH.
AND IN THAT CASE, I WOULD SUPPORT A POSTPONEMENT UNTIL 20 TO THE 29TH AND NOT, AND NOT BEYOND THAT AT THIS POINT, THIS HAS BEEN, UM, A CHALLENGING CONVERSATION THIS WEEK.
I THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT MORE PRODUCTIVELY.
I, I KNOW THAT MY STAFF HAVE, HAVE WORKED AND HAVE BEEN LISTENING AND TALKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS FOR A LONG TIME, UM, AROUND THIS CASE, AS WELL AS WITH THE APPLICANT.
AND I THINK IT IS WORTH SPENDING A FEW MORE WEEKS TO SEE IF, IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE APPLICANT TO BETTER MEET THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S VERY MUCH POSSIBLE.
UM, BUT IF MS POJO CAN SPEAK TO THE POSTPONEMENT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
IT'S BULLSHIT, BUT YOU'RE ALL HERE THERE.
YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THE DATES OF THE, THAT WAS BOWMAN OR POSTPONEMENT? YES.
THIS IS LEAH BOCA WITH JENNER GROUP HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME LAST DUE TO, UM, TRANSACTIONAL DEADLINES THAT ARE, THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE, OF THIS CASE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CITY PROCESSES.
UM, SO, UM, IF WE ARE ABLE TO POSTPONE UNTIL JUST FOR TWO WEEKS UNTIL THE 29TH, I THINK WE DO HAVE A CHANCE TO KEEP THIS PROPOSAL ON TRACK AND, AND, UM, WORK WITH YOU ALL AND, AND THE NEIGHBORS TO TRY TO COME TO SOMETHING THAT EVERYONE FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH.
UM, BUT AFTER, UM, THE NEXT MEETING ON THE 29TH, UM, IT WILL BE TOO LATE FOR US TO CHANGE COURSE ON THE PROJECT AND IT WILL, I BELIEVE IT WOULD PROBABLY LEAVE BECOME, IT WOULD MOST LIKELY BECOME A SINGLE FAMILY STEP THREE PROJECT.
AND, AND SO I'VE LOST TRACK OF WHAT THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR.
MAYOR, WOULD YOU REMIND ME WHETHER THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO THE 29TH? THAT'S WHAT, AND IF NOT, I'LL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
I THINK THAT COUNTS I'VE EVER HAD HER MADISON WAS THE ONE MAKING THE MOTION.
HER LAST ITERATION WAS THE 29TH OF OCTOBER.
THAT'S THE QUESTION WE HAVE THAT I'M UNPREPARED TO SUPPORT THAT FOR THE DISCUSSION ON THE POSTPONEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 29TH, STAY A VOTE.
COUNSELOR FLAT AGAIN, AND MAYBE IN VAIN.
BUT I, I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE ACTUALLY SETTING OURSELVES ON THE PATH TO SUCCESS HERE AND NOT JUST, NOT JUST REPEATING THIS MEETING, UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET TO NINE VOTES, WHICH SEEMS INEVITABLE THAT THAT WILL BE REQUIRED ON THIS CASE.
AND MAYBE THERE IS SOME UNIVERSE WHERE THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS PULL DOWN THAT VALID PETITION.
UM, THAT WOULD TAKE A MORE OPTIMISTIC LOOK AT THIS SITUATION THAN I HAVE CURRENTLY, BUT I WOULD HATE FOR US TO CHOOSE TWO WEEKS AND, UM, JUST RUN EVERYBODY THROUGH THE SAME, CALL IT A MAYOR PRO TEM, AND THEN COUNTS OVER KITCHEN.
I'M BEING OPTIMISTIC, WHICH IS WEIRD.
AND THIS TIME, BECAUSE I'M AN, I'M TERRIFIED OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE FIRST TUESDAY IN NOVEMBER, BUT I'M GUESS THERE'S A LITTLE SPARK OF OPTIMISM FROM ME IN THAT.
UM, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO KNOW IF THE, THE, THOSE WHO SIGNED THE VALID PETITION UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETHING CAN BE BUILT THERE AND WILL BE BUILT THERE, UM, THAT WILL PROVIDE ZERO AFFORDABILITY.
UM, I ALSO, I MEANT TO COMMENT ON THAT VIDEO AND IT WAS, THAT WAS A BEAUTIFULLY DONE VIDEO OF, OF, OF THESE WHO WERE RIGHTFULLY TERRIFIED OF, OF BEING DISPLACED.
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THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT THERE THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A LITTLE CONTROL OVER IT.AND, UM, I'M CURIOUS IF THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THAT VALID PETITION KNOW THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, AND, AND JUST REALLY HOPEFUL THAT, THAT SOMETHING COULD CHANGE.
BUT AGAIN, I, I I'M, HONESTLY, I COULD GO EITHER WAY.
I HONESTLY COULD GO EITHER WAY AND THE 29TH VERSUS, YOU KNOW, FURTHER OUT, BUT I I'M HOPEFUL THAT, THAT WE COULD GET NINE PEOPLE ON THIS DYESS TO CHOOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS OVER ZERO AFFORDABLE UNITS.
MOTION IN FRONT OF US IS POSTPONE UNTIL THE 29TH OF OCTOBER COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN.
DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION THOSE IN FAVOR, POSTPONING, THIS MATTER TO OCTOBER 29TH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THOSE OPPOSED WAS ABSTAINING UNANIMOUS ON THE DIOCESE MAYOR OR MR. FLANAGAN.
HOW ARE YOU VOTING THE VOTES TO KNOW HOW THERE'S NOTHING ELSE IT'S THIS MATTER POSTPONE TO THE 20TH MAYOR? I'M GOING TO THINK ABOUT HOW IT IS.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HANDLE THIS, AND I'LL PROBABLY TALK ON TUESDAY WORK SESSION ABOUT THIS MATTER.
IF IT LOOKS LIKE THE VOTES, AREN'T THERE TO DO IT.
UH, WE MAY NOT JUST CALL THE MATTER UP ON THURSDAY, UNLESS SOMEONE CALLS THE MATTER UP IN WHICH CASE THERE'S NOTHING IN FRONT OF US TO, TO VOTE ON THAT DAY.
I'LL WORK WITH COUNCIL TO SEE IF SUCH A DEVICE MIGHT EXIST.
YOU GUYS, CAN'T AMERICA, SIR, BECAUSE FOLKS ARE PROBABLY TUNING IN TO LISTEN ABOUT THE CASE AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DEBATE IT, I JUST WANT, AGAIN, FOR IT TO, I HAD MENTIONED DURING WORK SESSION, UM, THAT I THINK A 45 FOOT BUFFER ON THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UM, MAKES SENSE.
AND THAT, UH, THE MAJORITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT COULD STILL GET BUILT WITH THE 45 FEET IN THE BACK, UM, BEING UNBUILT ON AND NOT BEING ACQUIRED.
AND WHILE THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN I TRIED TO SEND OUT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THIS IS FOR FOLKS BETWEEN 60 AND 80%, UM, MEDIAN FAMILY INCOME, WHICH MEANS FOR A TWO BEDROOM HOUSE THAT COULD BE AS LOW AS $140,000 FOR A SINGLE, A SINGLE PARENTS WITH THEIR CHILD.
UM, UM, THAT MY VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT 60 TO 80%.
UM, AND THAT IS, AND I JUST WANT FOLKS TO, AGAIN, PEOPLE CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN HERE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT, UH, THAT CLEAR.
UM, AND, AND OF COURSE, UM, I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO GET EVEN LOWER THAN 60%, AND MAYBE THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
BUT USUALLY WHEN YOU GO BELOW 60%, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RENTAL HOUSING.
CAUSE IT'S HARD TO QUALIFY SOMEBODY FOR A MORTGAGE WHEN THEY ARE LOWER THAN THAT.
UM, AND I'M JUST VERY SUPPORTIVE OF LOW INCOME RENTAL HOUSING AND PUTTING THAT THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, AND ESTABLISHING MORE OF THAT AS WELL.
BUT, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW THOSE, THOSE THINGS AGAIN, AS WE TRY TO TRY TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND HAVE A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION, OKAY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE MATTERS COLLEAGUES, WE HAVE A PENDING BEFORE US, STILL A 21 AND 80, WHICH WE HAVE TO HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON FIRST.
AND WE ALSO THAT WE WOULD NOT GET TO THE SEVENTIES UNTIL AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO I THINK EXECUTIVE SESSION IS THE NEXT THING WE NEED TO DO.
NOW I'M GOING TO PROPOSE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
UH, WE CAN BREAK FOR DINNER, UH, FOR AN HOUR OR WHENEVER IT, UH, WE WANT TO, TO DO THAT.
UM, AND WE COULD JUST LEAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN COME BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND THEN WE CAN HANDLE THESE FINAL ITEMS ON OUR, ON OUR AGENDA COUNCIL MEMBER, HARPER, MADISON.
I'D FIRST LIKE TO OFFER MY APOLOGIES FOR HAVING PART AND WATERSHED STAFF STICK AROUND FOR WHAT APPEARS TO BE NO REASON.
I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR EVENING.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR US TO HAVE THE PRESENTATIONS THAT I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO TODAY.
IF WE'RE GOING TO RESUME THIS CONVERSATION IN TWO WEEKS, IN WHICH CASE I WILL DEFER TO THE 29TH TO GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UM, FROM WATERSHED AND, UM, PARD.
WE'VE GOT ALSO ASK WATERSHED IN PART TO COME PREPARED TO THAT WORK SESSION ON THE TUESDAY BEFORE THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
MIGHT BE ABLE TO ASK YOUR QUESTIONS THEN.
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THANK YOU, ALEX.WE'LL BE READY TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
IT IS, UM, BY 14 AND PURSUANT TO SECTIONS FIVE, FIVE (107) 155-1072 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS LEGAL AND REAL ESTATE MATTERS RELATED ITEM 21 AND PURSUANT TO FIVE, FIVE, ONE OH SEVEN ONE, THE GOVERNMENT CODE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO ITEM 80, UH, WITHOUT OBJECTION, COLLEAGUES, UH, LET'S JUST MOVE ON OVER TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT AT WHAT POINT WE TAKE THE LUNCH BREAK BEFORE WE RECONVENE EXECUTIVE SESSION, UH, THE ITEMS FOR THE RECORD THAT WE STILL HAVE TO DECIDE THAT ARE PENDING ARE THE 21 AND 80.
WE JUST REFERRED TO ALSO ITEMS 71 THROUGH 75 WITH THAT ALSO YOU GUYS HAD EXECUTIVE SESSION CHANNEL.
UM, WE ARE BACK FROM A CLOSED SESSION IN CLOSED SESSION.
WE DISCUSSED REAL ESTATE MATTERS RELATED TO ITEMS 21 LEGAL MATTERS RELATED TO, UH, ITEMS 21.
UH, NOT NECESSARILY FOR US TO DISCUSS, UH, ITEM NUMBER 80.
WE ARE BACK IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO FINISH UP OUR WORK.
WE HAVE A BEFORE US, UH, ITEMS 21 AND THEN 71 THROUGH 75 AND 80.
[21. Authorize negotiation and execution of all documents and instruments necessary to acquire in fee simple 0.214 acres being a portion of Lots 12, 13, and 14, Block F of the Raymond Subdivision, a part of Outlot 2, Division Z, an addition in the City of Austin recorded in Volume 2, Page(s) 129 of the Plat Records of Travis County, Texas, located at 702 Wood Street, Austin, Texas and owned by Beau Soleil Austin, LLC, a Texas limited liability company, for a total purchase price not to exceed $1,174,250, including closing costs.]
WITH RESPECT TO, UH, ITEM 21 COUNCIL MEMBER HARPER, MADISON MAY.I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO GIVE IT FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
THEN A MOTION TO POSTPONE ITEM NUMBER 21.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? THAT'S MEMBER FLANAGAN, SECOND SET MOTION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THE POSTPONEMENT OF ITEM 21 AS WE EVER HARPER MADISON? YES.
UM, UH, JUST TO SORT OF PREP IT FOR WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER, THERE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO THE VALUE OF THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, MY HOPE IS THAT DURING THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS, UH, SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED.
UM, I COULD LAY THEM OUT HERE.
WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE COURSE OF ACTION? YOU KNOW, YOU COULD DO IT EITHER PLACE IT'S BEEN POSTPONED, SO YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO IT IN THE Q AND A, OR YOU COULD DO IT NOW.
SO JUST TO MAKE SURE PART HAS KIND OF A HEADS UP AS TO WHERE MY HEAD IS AT, WHEN THEM ANSWER, UM, THE QUESTIONS AROUND, UM, THIS PARTICULAR ACQUISITION AND HOW IT SATISFIES, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PARD PRIORITIES, WHICH INCLUDE EQUITY, PARKED EFFICIENCY, GREEN BELT ACQUISITION, AND LONG RANGE PLANNING.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET SOME CLARITY AROUND.
AND THEN THE OTHER ITEM THAT I, UM, REALLY LIKED TO, I MEAN, READING THROUGH THE PRIORITY STATEMENTS.
SO LIKE WITH EQUITY, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST PRIORITIZE SOCIOECONOMIC FACTORS, SUCH AS VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, INCOME AND RACIAL MAKEUP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN WITH PARK DEFICIENT AREAS, REFERENCE, UH, THE ESTABLISHED, UH, REGULARLY UPDATED MAPPING TO EVALUATE QUARTER MILE AND HALF MILE WALKABILITY.
UM, SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RENT THAT AREA, I THINK MADE A REALLY GOOD SUGGESTION AND THAT WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO ASCERTAIN THAT THIS PARTICULAR PARKLAND DEDICATION, THESE FUNDS COULD BE EXPENDED FOR UP TO TWO MILES.
AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH MY DISTRICT AND COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, DISTRICT ARE WITHIN THAT TWO MILE RADIUS.
UM, I'D LIKE VERY MUCH TO DO WHAT HE ASKED, UM, ON, DURING THE WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY.
AND IF WE COULD GET A LIST OF ASSETS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT TWO MILE RADIUS, AND IF WE COULD, AS A BODY, MAKE THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS 0.2 AND SOME CHANGE ACRES IS THE BEST, HIGHEST USE OF OVER A MILLION DOLLARS.
OR IF THERE'S ANOTHER ASSET THAT WE COULD ACQUIRE, UM, WITHIN THAT TWO MILE RADIUS, THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER USE OF THE FUNDS.
SO I SUPPOSE WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THERE IS AN ASSET MAP WITHIN THAT TWO MILE RADIUS,
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OKAY.TO POSTPONE ONE 21, TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY? I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU, KATHY.
SHE HAS A PAPER UP, BUT I CAN'T READ IT, BUT I'M ALSO BLIND.
SO CAN ANYBODY READ WITH KATHY? HAS IT LOOKS LIKE NO, NO.
IS THAT RIGHT? LESLIE? I'M A MIDDLE ALSO.
I CALLED THE VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER 21 FOR THE POSTPONEMENT.
THE POSTPONEMENT PASSES SEVEN TO FOUR.
ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON NOW TO THE NEXT ITEM, EVERYBODY.
I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE, CATHY, THAT ARE YOU WITH US? CAN I, KATHY, CAN YOU SAY SOMETHING? ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? YES.
YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST GOING TO SUGGEST TO THE PUBLIC, THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THIS COMPETITION.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A POINT THAT IS THAT WE DO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE GOT FROM THE, FROM PART EARLIER THIS MONTH, THAT LOOKS AT THE HEAT MAP.
AND IT ALSO LOOKS AT, AT VARIOUS KINDS OF INVESTMENTS WE'RE MAKING.
SO I WANT TO BE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE MAKING CERTAIN INVESTMENTS WITHIN PARKLAND DEDICATION OR MAKING CERTAIN INVESTMENTS WITH OUR BONDS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE WAY TO SEE WHERE THOSE ARE BEING INVESTED BECAUSE OUR, OUR BOND DOLLARS ARE BEING INVESTED AROUND THE CITY.
IS THAT MEMO FROM EARLIER THIS MONTH.
UM, AND, AND AS I MENTIONED IN ONE OF OUR EARLIER CONVERSATIONS, I THINK AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, I LOOK FORWARD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS TO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE'VE INVESTED OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION DOLLARS IN THE PAST AND SEE IF THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT PRACTICE, WHICH I BELIEVE TO DO.
I ALMOST FORGOT THE OTHER THING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER THAT HE ASKED, WHICH I THINK IS A VALID QUESTION.
AND I'D LIKE THE ANSWER AS WELL.
HOW MUCH, HOW MANY DOLLARS DO WE HAVE IN THAT FUND? I THINK THAT'D BE GOOD INFORMATION TO KNOW AS WELL.
UM, BEFORE WE VOTE NEXT TIME, I'D ALSO, IF PART COULD PROVIDE US, UM, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TRAIL ACCESS ALREADY.
UM, AND I WAS TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER, THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF OUR TOWN WHERE IT IS JUST KIND OF ACCESS FROM LIKE A DEAD END.
I WAS THINKING KIND OF IN BOLDEN, THERE'S JUST LIKE A GUARD RAIL AND YOU PEOPLE JUST PARKED ALONG THE STREET AND ACCESS.
UM, ONE OF THE TRAILS THAT WAY.
UM, THERE'S ALSO BEEN DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT PRECLUDES US FROM, UH, CREATING SOME KIND OF PLAQUE AND SOME KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SYMBOL TO THAT IN THE PROPERTY, IN THE PART THAT WE ALREADY OWN.
AND THAT ALREADY GIVES US ACCESS.
CAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE WHEN WE WERE TO GIVE HER ACCESS AND, UM,
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AND UM, SOME KIND OF, I GUESS, HOMAGE TO THE AREA.AND, AND I THINK, I FEEL I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN DO BOTH OF THOSE WITHOUT HAVING TO OUR, OF OUR PARK.
I THINK THAT DIRECTOR MCNEELY SAID IT, THERE WAS SOME INDICATION ALREADY ON THE SITE, SOME HISTORICAL MARKER OR SOME INTERPRETIVE INFORMATION THERE.
AND THEN MY UNDERSTANDING IS FROM MEMBER AND I HAD STEPH WANTED TO DO MORE.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK, UH, JUST TO GIVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO WHAT STAFF WAS TRYING TO DO HERE, WE DID PASS THE LONG RANGE PLAN NOVEMBER 14 OF LAST YEAR.
SO IT'S JUST BEEN ABOUT A YEAR.
SO STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE LONG RANGE PLAN THAT WE HAD APPROVED FOR THEM TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, I WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY CLEAR THAT, UH, STAFF WAS DOING WHAT THE STAFF WAS WALKING, THE PATH THAT WE SET THEM UPON ORDINANCE 20, 19, 11, 14.
IT WAS ITEM NUMBER 69 ON OUR AGENDA LAST YEAR.
WE'D ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WHEN WE GET BACK THE INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH THIS IN THE PAST AND VARIOUS FORUMS, BUT, UM, SINCE THE STAFF ARE BEING ASKED TO PROVIDE US WITH INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MONEY IS IN THE PARKLAND DEDICATION FUND, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CONTEXTUALIZED.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IN THE DIFFERENT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT ONE BIG, IT CAN'T BE SPENT IN AREAS OTHER THAN THOSE WHERE IT WAS COLLECTED.
SO I WOULD ASK THE STAFF TO PLEASE BREAK IT DOWN BY DIFFERENT AREAS SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE IN DIFFERENT AREAS AROUND THE CITY THAT CAN BE INVESTED IN THOSE AREAS AND ARE INVESTED IN THOSE AREAS ALONG WITH, AS I MENTIONED, BOND FUNDS, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE VARIOUS OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE IN MANY DISTRICTS AROUND THE CITY, YOU KNOW, I, AS WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, I WANT TO REALLY BE THOUGHTFUL AND, UM, HAVE IT IN A VERY THOROUGH WAY.
AND REMEMBER ALL OF THE INSTANCES WHERE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE TALKED ABOUT PUBLICLY OWNED LAND, UM, FROM THE WATER UTILITY THAT COULD BE CONVERTED INTO PARKLAND WHERE THE TRACTOR LAND AND, UM, ALONG, I THINK KNUCKLES CROSSING TOWARD THE KNUCKLES CROSSING BURLESON AREA, WHERE WE WERE POISED TO SELL IT AND THEN HAD A CONVERSATION AND, YOU KNOW, DECIDED TO RETAIN THAT FOR PUBLIC, FOR PUBLIC USE.
AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, IN THE END WORKED WITH A COMMUNITY GROUP TO LEASE IT.
UM, SO WE'VE MADE LOTS OF THOUGHTFUL AND IN MANY DISTRICTS OR CITY, AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL HAVE THIS CONVERSATION IN LIGHT OF THOSE BROADER CONVERSATIONS.
I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO THINK THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT IT MAKING INVESTMENTS AND THAT WE HAVEN'T MADE INVESTMENTS IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT IN THIS, IN THIS CITY.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT DAY THEN, JUST TO CLARIFY, I KNOW THAT STAFF WILL BE WORKING ON THIS ANSWERS, BUT IS THERE ANY CLARITY THAT WE CAN HAVE ON WHEN THIS WILL BE POSTPONED TO, I'D LIKE TO SUGGEST OCTOBER 29 BRILLIANT MANAGER, I THERE'S QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED YOU, DO YOU HAVE A, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU NEED, IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THE 29TH OF OCTOBER.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS? YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO CLICK ALL THAT.
ANY OBJECTION TO HAVING THIS MATTER, COME BACK ONTO THE AGENDA ON THE 29TH AIRY NONE MAYOR, SINCE I MADE THE MOTION, IF I MAY SPEAK TO IT, I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY OBJECTION PER SE, BUT GIVEN THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PARTS SPECIFIC ITEMS THAT I'M SORT OF STILL, UH, WORKING WITH THEM ON, I DO WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE SETTING THEM UP FOR SUCCESS.
UM, SO A MANAGER, WHILE WE CAN APPRECIATE THAT, UM, YOU THINK THAT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF TIME.
IF WE COULD JUST GET SOME SORT OF CONFIRMATION FROM PARD THAT THAT'S SUFFICIENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED.
MANAGER, GIVEN YOUR REPRESENTATION, YOU CAN DO THE FAULTS, GOTTA BE ON THE 29TH.
IF YOU HEAR BACK AND MAY NEED MORE TIME, PLEASE BRING THAT UP BEFORE WE'RE OUT OF THIS MEETING SO WE CAN CHANGE THAT DAY.
[Items 71 & 72]
THE THING TO DO NOW IS TO, IS TO DO 71 AND 72.UH, KATHY, I THINK THOSE ARE YOURS.
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MAYOR? I MADE ANOTHER MINUTE.UM, I DID DISTRIBUTE SOME AMENDMENTS.
THESE ARE REALLY THE INTENT HERE IS TO, AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED, UM, USE THE RIGHTAWAY ENCROACHMENT AND ALLIANZ AND STREET VACATION MONIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.
AND THIS WAS, UH, AN IN SUPPORT OF THE GOALS OF THE SAVE RESOLUTION.
UM, THE INTENT ON THE, I THINK THE BUDGET AMENDMENT IS POSTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT THIS, THIS IS REALIZED, UM, IT WOULD, THIS YEAR, WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED $800,000 OF RIGHT AWAY FEES.
AND SO I'M SORRY, 800,000 IN AN ENCROACHMENT AND STREET NELLIE VACATE INSTANCE.
SO THAT MONEY IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
IT WENT INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
UM, THE AMENDMENT ALLOWS FOR I'M SORRY, THE BUDGET POSTING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND MY LANGUAGE ALLOWS FOR ANY REVENUE IN EXCESS OF THAT 2000, UM, TO FLOW TO THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND.
I DO NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING WITH STAFF EVENTUALLY.
UM, AND I WOULD, I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF BOTH OF THOSE.
UM, BUT THE VERSION I'M GOING TO MOVE APPROVAL OF ON STEP TWO IS THE ONE WITH MY AMENDMENTS.
SO 71 IS THE ONE THAT FINDS THOSE, THOSE BUNNIES AND 72 IS THE CREATION OF A FUND THAT THOSE MONIES WOULD BE PUT INTO.
YOUR CAFFEINE MAKES THE EMOTION 71 AND 72.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THOSE AND SECONDS GOES, UM, KENNY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU FOR STAFF.
ONE IS THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
THANK YOU FOR FINDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
UM, UM, I HAD PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT THAT I'M GONNA WANT TO CONSIDER.
THAT'S BEEN, UH, UH, UH, LAID OUT IT'S BEEN POSTED, UH, THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT, UH, UM, THE MONEY THAT'S IN THERE CAN BE USED FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, EXPENSES AND THE, UH, CPA OR ATTORNEY ASSISTANCE SO THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE CORPUS OF THE SAVES, UH, ACCOUNT.
UM, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO READ THAT AMENDMENT TO SEE IF THAT MEASUREMENT IS OKAY? I WOULD, I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS FRIENDLY.
I, I HOPE THAT IF WE FIND A NEED, IF WE NEED, LIKE, MY INTENT IS TO MOVE THAT WE USE ALL 3.7 MILLION OF THE RIGHT AWAY, UM, MONEY.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO KNOW AT THIS POINT, WHETHER WE'LL NEED ALL OF THAT OR THE KIND OF SERVICES YOU TALKED ABOUT.
AND SO CERTAINLY I HOPE WE'LL USE AS LITTLE OF THAT AS POSSIBLE FOR THOSE SERVICES THOUGH.
I SUPPORT THE IDEA OF GETTING MORE SUSTAINABLE PLAN, BUT THAT WOULD LEAVE, YOU KNOW, THE BALANCE OF IT AVAILABLE FOR DIRECT FUNDING TO VENUES.
SO I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE LIMITED TO THAT, BUT CERTAINLY I SUPPORT THE GOAL OF ALLOWING FOR THAT USE.
NO, AND I SUPPORT THAT EITHER.
IN FACT, IF THE PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL, UH, AND IT'S ACTUALLY DOING WHAT WE NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY, MAYBE WE CAN FIND THEM MONIES IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER IT IS.
WE TURN UP HERE TO BE ABLE TO PUT TO THAT AS, AS, AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT, TO MY AMENDMENT 72 BEING INCORPORATED DURING YES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
SO YOUR AMENDMENT, INSTEAD OF THE QUEUE HERE IS THIS, I MOVED TO MEN 72 TO ALLOW NO MORE THAN THAT AMOUNT.
IS THAT THE PART THAT APPLIES TO 72, SEVEN EIGHT, WHO, UH, SAYS THAT, UH, UM, THAT USE OF THE FUND COULD BE TO COVER THE COST FOR CASE MANAGEMENT SPECIAL LEGAL AND ACCOUNTING TECHNICAL SERVICES.
THEN I MUST BE MISSING A, IS THIS ONE FROM EARLIER THEN?
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POSTERS.AND HOW WAS THAT MODIFIED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER? IF WE WERE GOING TO POSTPONE 74 AND 75, THAT WE WOULD USE THIS MONEY TO GET THEM MOVING QUICKLY, OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT THE MILLION 500,000 THAT YOU HAD IN YOUR OTHER MOTION SHEET, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING WELL, AS I, I THINK THAT, THAT I READ IT AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS ALREADY COVERED.
THIS MONEY GOES INTO THE FUND IN 72, IT'S AVAILABLE IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY WHERE THOSE ELEMENTS OF THE SAVES PROGRAM ESTATES FUNDS HAVE BEEN CREATED AT THIS POINT.
THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN, ALL WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS THE PROGRAMMING ON THOSE BY CHARACTER BY SIGNATURE.
AND WE CAN TALK THROUGH THIS WITH RESPECT TO 74 AND 75.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO APPROVE SOME MEASURE PROGRAMMING SO THAT THEY CAN GET STARTED ON THE, UH, EMERGENCY RELIEF AND LETTING PEOPLE STARTING TO, TO APPLY.
BUT AS I READ THIS, IT WAS THE INTENT OF THIS TO SAY, UH, THIS COVERS THE CASE MANAGEMENT ALLOWS THE FUNDING TO BE USED FOR THE CASE MANAGEMENT, UH, AND FOR THE SAVES AND THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE FEES AND SAVES.
CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE OF IS IF WE END UP POST FUNDING, 74 AND 75, THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY TO BEGIN A PIECE OF THIS PROCESS.
I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT.
UM, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT AMBIGUITY.
WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WHERE WE'VE LEFT WITH AMBIGUITY, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CLARITY.
SO CAN YOU TELL ME HOW YOU UNDERSTAND IT? THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE ALSO HAVE A PCM GONZALES, AND THEN I BELIEVE THAT ANTHONY IS TRYING TO GET MOVED OVER.
AND SO WE CAN CONFIRM OUR CTM THAT HE'LL BE MOVED OVER.
DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS? ABSOLUTELY.
CITY MANAGER, UM, AS WELL, UH, ECONOMIC RECOVERY, VERONICA, UH, IS WANTING TO SPEAK AS WELL.
SO, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO, I THINK THE MAYOR HAS THE MOTION SHEET, UM, ON, WAS BORN IN 75 THAT SPEAKS TO POSTPONEMENT.
UH, WELL ACTUALLY THERE'S A MOTION SHEET THAT SPEAKS TO PERHAPS CAUSE SOME AND THE GUIDELINES, BUT THE CREATION OF AN EMERGENCY RELIEF FUND, THE DIFFICULTY WITH, UH, PLUS FUNDING GUIDELINES IS WE HAVE DRAFTED STAFF AS DID THEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SAFES RESOLUTION, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
THE GUIDELINES ARE INTENDED TO GIVE US THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS WE GO THROUGH APPLICATIONS SO THAT WHEN WE CAN FOCUS ON THE APPLICATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH DESIRE, WITHOUT GUIDELINES, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT THE, THE PROGRAMS. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THE GUIDELINES FROM THE MAYOR'S PERSPECTIVE THAT HE BELIEVES NEED TO BE WORKED.
AND, UH, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT AND APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WITHOUT GUIDELINES ADOPTED TODAY AND SAID, WHERE ARE YOU DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM? THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT A SECOND AGO THAT MAY BE NECESSARY FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE GUIDELINE IN THE MOTION SHEETS SO THAT THE PROGRAMS CAN BE INITIATED A COUNSELOR OR A KITCHEN.
SO, UM, UH, OH, UH, SO HERE, THE QUESTION, UM, THE WAY I'M READING, UM, UH, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO 72, HAS IT AUTHORIZES THE USE OF THE FUNDS TO COVER MINT AND PROFESSIONAL LEGAL ACCOUNTING AND TECHNICAL? SO MY THOUGHTS IS THAT WHAT THIS DOES IS IT GIVES YOU THE, YOU KNOW, THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE FUNDS FOR THOSE RESOURCES, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT AND SECURE THEM TO ME, IF, IS IF WE ADOPTED THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES, UH, IF, IF THE TIMELINE FOR, IF WE POSTPONE SET 74 AND 75 GUIDELINES, OR MAYBE JUST 75 GUIDELINES, IF WE PUT POSTPONE THAT, BUT THEN WE TOOK IT UP AGAIN QUICKLY ENOUGH.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, HOPEFULLY NOT MUCH, BUT YOU KNOW, PROBABLY AT LEAST TWO WEEKS, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW, TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS BEEN YOUR
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PROFESSIONAL, LEGAL, ACCOUNTING AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT.SO, UM, SO THERE'S THAT, UM, I JUST, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE READY TO ADOPT ALL OF THE GUIDELINES TODAY.
UM, I BARELY HAD TIME TO THINK ABOUT THEM.
SOME OF THEM LOOK GREAT TO ME, SOME OF THEM I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT, SO I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW WHAT YOU NEED AS A MINIMUM TO GET STARTED.
AND I WOULD THINK THAT, UM, THINK THAT, UM, THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THESE PARTICULAR, UM, ASSETS, THIS WOULD LET YOU GO AHEAD AND START THE PROCESS OF SECURING THOSE ASSETS, OR ARE YOU THINKING NOT, ARE YOU THINKING IT DOESN'T DO THAT FOR YOU? WELL, I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IS SEVERAL THINGS ONE, YES.
FOR CERTAINLY WHAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO SECURE THE ASSETS.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION THAT WE WILL DO PART THOUGH THAT IS CONCERNING IS, UH, ALONG WITH THAT, AS WE DEVELOP AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND THEN THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE INFORM THE APPLICANTS.
SO HERE'S THE GUIDELINES AND HERE'S HOW YOU CAN FIT WITHIN THIS PROGRAM.
AND THEN WE WOULD USE THOSE GUIDELINES TO THEN DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY.
AND SO IT'S THAT PIECE THAT IT'S MISSING.
AND SO I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO GET CLEAR FROM COUNCIL IS, UH, IF YOU LOCK THE MONEY, UM, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
WE WOULD GO OUT, WE WOULD PROCURE THE RESOURCES THAT IS NOT A CONCERN FOR DOING AND FOR GETTING STARTED RIGHT AWAY.
THE CONCERN THAT WE HAVE THOUGH, IS THAT WHAT PROBABLY IS SIMILAR TO THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE CREATED IS WE DEVELOP THE CRITERIA.
UM, WE POST THAT, SO THAT WAY EVERYONE'S VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IS ELIGIBILITY.
UM, THEY THEN MAKE AN APPLICATION AND THEN WE USE THAT CRITERIA THEN TO JUDGE, TO ASSESS WHETHER OR NOT THEY MEET THE CRITERIA AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE ELIGIBLE.
I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE TIME AND I KNOW TRYING TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AND IT MAY BE THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE, THESE GUIDELINES AND IT'S THE 75 IS THE ONE THAT I THINK, UM, WE NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME TO WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THE GUIDELINES.
SO, UM, SO IF WE, IF, IF WE ARE AS THIS TODAY, UM, AND, UM, WE APPROVED, YOU KNOW, 73 AND 74 AND POSTPONE 75, COULD YOU NOT GET STARTED? IT IS, AS WE TOOK IT UP AGAIN, THOSE GUIDELINES, WE TOOK THOSE GUIDELINES UP AGAIN SOON.
WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TIMELINE IS? I KNOW I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.
SO IF THE GUIDELINES ARE ADOPTED TODAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GETTING IMPLEMENTED, BUT ONCE THE 73 AND 74, AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE FIVE, SO BEFORE WE WOULD GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY WITH 75, YOU KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO IN COURSES FOR CARE, THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED FOR AN EVENTUAL IMPLEMENTATION, WE WOULD CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT, AND I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO A CHIEF ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER GRIMES CAN BE HARD TO ACTUALLY PUT FORWARD AN APPLICATION PROCESS, BUT THEN IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE COULDN'T GET STARTED ON AT LEAST PROCESS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE HARD TO WHAT'S ELIGIBILITY.
I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK IS, IS, UM, AND YOU JUST MAY NOT HAVE, THEY Y'ALL MIGHT NOT KNOW THIS YET, BUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE TO PROCURE THE RESOURCES? SURE.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF VERONICA FOR ST.
ANDREW'S ECONOMIC RECOVERY OFFICER.
I THINK PART OF OUR STRUGGLE IS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL GIVES US AS WELL.
SO THAT WILL HELP US IDENTIFY THE TIME IT'LL TAKE TO IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES.
UM, COME BACK TO YOU WITH ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH IN TERMS OF PROCURING.
IF THE QUESTION IS ABOUT SIMPLY PROCURING THE, UM, THE TECHNICAL RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT I WOULD WANT A GOOD TWO TO FOUR WEEKS.
UH, I DO THINK, AND I'M, I'M WORKING THROUGH THIS MYSELF AS WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, I THINK THAT ALSO DEPENDS THOUGH AGAIN, ON WHAT WE'RE COMING BACK WITH AND WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, MOVE FIRST.
I MOVED FAST, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DOING BOTH THINGS SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SO QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, I THINK THAT THE INTEREST IS TO GET THIS GOING AS QUICK AS WE CAN, ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO SOMEBODY WHO IS IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION AND THINKS THEY'RE NOT GONNA LAST FOR WEEKS.
AND FOR THAT PERSON, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET EMERGENCY RELEASE, TO TIDE THEM
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OVER FOR THE SHORTEST PERIOD OF TIME, BUT ALSO TO GET THEM TO THAT PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE.BECAUSE I THINK THAT MANY OF THEM MAY SEE WITH THAT PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE THAT THEY'RE REALLY NOT IN DANGER OF, OF, OF LOSING EVERYTHING IN THE NEXT FOUR WEEKS.
UM, AND IN FACT, IF ACTUALLY PAID MONEY, THEY MIGHT LOSE SOME OF THEIR BARGAINING LEVERAGE.
I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ENABLE PEOPLE TO GO AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, WHAT I HEAR AND WHAT I HEARD, UM, UH, DEBORAH SAYING IN THE BRAIN WAS THAT, UH, WE NEED, THERE ARE TWO THINGS.
ONE IS DEBORAH HAS, HAS BROUGHT, UH, AN AMENDMENT.
THAT'S OUR WORKSHEET FOR 74, 75, 70 AND 72 THAT TALKS ABOUT, HEY, BEING ABLE TO MOVE QUICKLY TO DO THE EMERGENCY FUNCTIONS FOR THE BUSINESS, FOR THE SHORT TERM, UH, RELIEF NEED, UH, AND FINANCIAL AND EXPERTISE.
SO I THINK THAT'S ALSO COVERED HERE.
THAT MIGHT BE PART OF THE ANSWER THAT ALISON IS LOOKING FOR, BUT, BUT THE CRITERIA AND WHO KIND OF APPLIES STUFF THAT WE AS A COUNCIL ADOPTED SEVERAL WEEKS AGO TO A LARGE DEGREE.
SO IT'S A QUESTION OF TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE ACTUALLY, WHAT WE PUT IN THE RESOLUTION AND CARRYING THOSE OVERS.
AND I THINK THAT THAT HAS A LOT THAT HAS THE ELIGIBILITY.
SO, AND THAT'S WHAT IN THE, IN THE SHEETS THAT I HANDED OUT, UH, THAT'S WHERE THAT LANGUAGE CAME FROM.
IT'S JUST CARRYING IT OVER FROM THE RESOLUTION THAT WE DID SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
SO I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE LAUNCHING IT, BUT THINK RISING THAT STAFF REALLY NEEDS TO DEVELOP THE FULL PROGRAM GUIDELINES THAT STAFF COME BACK WITH GAGE OF IT OR FLUSHING IT OUT OR POLISHING IT OFF.
BUT PAT'S ENOUGH TODAY AS ANNE WAS SAYING SO THAT YOU GUYS CAN GET STARTED, UH, AND PEOPLE CAN START, UH, SEEING THAT THE PROGRAM IS HAPPENING.
SO I WANT TO, UM, MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS AND THEN ALLOW STAFF TO SHARE THEIR RESERVATIONS.
CAUSE I THINK, UM, WE LEARNED A LOT WITH OUR OTHER PROGRAMS ABOUT WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN'T AND WHERE THE PITFALLS WERE.
UM, AND CLARITY REALLY DOES MATTER, UM, AT A LOT OF STAGES.
UM, SO THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA, I DON'T THINK IS WHAT WE'RE DEBATING.
I THINK THE CONCERN IS ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE DO WITH THE MONEY TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO HELP THE GROUPS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE MONEY.
I THINK THERE'S A FAIRLY CLEAR AGREEMENT ON THE ELIGIBILITY.
UM, THERE'S A FEW TWEAKS THAT THE MAYOR MADE, BUT I DON'T THINK THOSE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE THINGS.
THE ISSUE IS WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE PROGRAM? UM, AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROGRAMS. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ENOUGH FOR THE STAFF TO HAVE CLARITY ON THE ELIGIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON A LOT OF THINGS, UNLESS WE SAY THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION PROGRAM IS FOR THAT SHORT TERM RELIEF.
AND WE WANT YOU TO SPEND THIS MUCH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PROGRAM THIS MUCH IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE REST OF THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
UM, AND THAT BUSINESS PRESERVATION POT IS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SPENDING INITIALLY, AT LEAST FOR THE LIVE MUSIC VENUES OR MAYBE THE LEGACY.
I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHILDCARE WITH VERY MINOR, MINOR TWEAKS SO THAT WE'RE GETTING STUFF OUT THE DOOR RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT PRESERVATION FUND HAS THAT SORT OF IMMEDIATE SCOPE AND HAS THAT, UM, ASSISTANCE PART.
AND THEN WE BUILD UP THE OTHER PROGRAM.
I APPRECIATE THAT THE MAYOR'S MEETING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I HAVE NOT HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF VENUES IN MY DISTRICT, SO IT'S NOT, THOSE ARE NOT CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN PRIVY TO, BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE CLARITY, UM, TO OUR STAFF.
IT IS NOT EASY TO DOLE OUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO GROUPS WHEN THERE IS DEMAND THAT EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT.
UM, AND I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT I REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY CAME FROM WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO DO THE LOTTERY AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF, HAVING WATCHED AND SEEN THE TRAJECTORY FOR OTHER GRANTS, UM, THAT WAS HARD.
UM, IT IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY CHOICE THAT THEY MAKE JUST AS EVERY CHOICE THAT WE MAKE IS GOING TO BE SCRUTINIZED.
SO, UM, WHEREVER WE LAND TONIGHT, WE NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH CLARITY.
SO AT LEAST THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND HOW THEY SHOULD PRIORITIZE AND EXACTLY HOW WE GET THERE FROM WHERE WE ARE.
I WOULD SUGGEST IF WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY ON, UM, TO MAKE 70, TO DO THAT REALLY IMMEDIATE, SHORT TERM
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ASSISTANCE, WHETHER IT'S THEY'RE FLAILING AND THEY NEED LIKE AN INJECTION OF 20,000 OR IF THEY NEED THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT WAY OF THINKING ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED.UM, AND THEN WE LOOK AT, AT LEAST, I THINK 75 IS THE LIVE MUSIC, ONE PUSHING THAT OFF.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE CLARITY ON THE ELIGIBILITY PIECE, WHICH WOULD ALSO CARRY OVER TO THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FOR, FOR BOTH OF THOSE, THAT'S THE SOLUTION, BUT THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO LAND IN TERMS OF GOAL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WANT TO SPEAK TO ANYTHING ELSE BEYOND THAT BEFORE WE GO FURTHER AS PRESENTED YOU, DID YOU WANT TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BUT IF YOU WANT TO, THERE'S SOMETHING ON YOUR MIND.
I WANTED TO INVITE YOU TO SPEAK COUNSELING ARM.
JUST AGAIN, IT'S HELPFUL FOR US TO KNOW THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL'S GOING IN TO REALLY FULLY, UM, RESPOND.
UM, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE ELIGIBILITY AND THE REASON WHY WE STRUCTURED IT, THE WAY THAT WE DID, AND AS MUCH AS AS MUCH CLARITY AS WE CAN GET ON THE ELIGIBILITY IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR US.
SO ALEX, I THINK THAT YOU IDENTIFIED THE ISSUE.
THERE'S THE INITIAL ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO START.
SO THEY KNOW WHO IT IS THAT CAN BE GIVING THEM AN APPLICATION THAT THEY CAN TAKE A LOOK AT, WHETHER THEY NEED EMERGENCY RELIEF.
THE SECOND PART OF IT IS IF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY QUALIFIES FOR IT AND THEN IT'S TRYING TO GET DOLLARS, HOW DO THEY DO THAT? AND THAT'S A LOT MORE AMORPHOUS AND IT'S THE SECOND PART THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WHAT THEY REALLY NEED RIGHT NOW IS WHAT VERONICA AND RODNEY SAID.
AND WHAT DEBRA SAID WAS, AS I UNDERSTOOD, IT WAS AT THE VERY LEAST HELP US WITH THE ELIGIBILITY STUFF AND GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO DO THE EMERGENCY STUFF SO THAT WE CAN GET STARTED ON THAT.
THE PROBLEM WITH JUST DOING 70 OR 72 IS THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT ELIGIBILITY.
SO THE REASON THAT I THINK THEY NEED 73, 74 AND 75 IS TO ESTABLISH THE ELIGIBILITY COMPONENTS OF THE PROGRAMMATIC STUFF.
I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLIER RESOLUTION.
SO MY THOUGHT WAS IN 73, 74, 75, AND LAYS OUT THE ELIGIBILITY SUCH THAT THEY COULD GET STARTED.
WE CAN ALWAYS, AND THEN WE ASK STAFF TO, TO, TO FINE TUNE IT, TO, TO WORK ON IT, COME BACK WITH, EVEN CHANGES ON, ON THAT, COME BACK WITH THE END, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT AND THE TIME THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN ANTON ABOUT, BUT AT THE VERY LEAST THAT GIVES THEM THE COMPONENTS TO BE ABLE TO START NOW THAT I HAVE THAT WRONG VERONICA OR RODNEY OR DEBORAH.
YOU COUNT SAY EXACTLY OUR CONCERN WAS WE GET THE DESIRE TO START RIGHT AWAY AND THE MONEY THAT'S SET ASIDE.
BUT I DO THINK THAT EVEN COMES FROM HER ALTAR SAYING THE SAME THING, WHICH IS THAT WE WANT AS MUCH SPECIFICITY AS POSSIBLE FROM COUNSEL AS WE GO FORWARD, THAT'S GOING TO HELP US.
THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE APPLICANTS FROM CLARITY ON THEIR SIDE AS WELL.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEKING IS, IS THE CLARITY OF THE GUIDELINES ON THE WHOLE ADOPTED TODAY AS WE DESIRED, AS WE RECOMMEND.
UM, WE CERTAINLY, UH, DO RECOMMEND THAT SOME FORM OF GUIDANCE BE PROVIDED BY COUNSEL AS WE PROGRESSED THROUGH THE DOOR.
AND YEAH, MAYBE WE JUST SPOKE.
W YOU KNOW, WE, WHEN WE GET TO 74 AND 75 AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE DETAILS OF BAIT, IT MAY BECOME, UM, IT MAY WORK ITSELF OUT.
BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.
ONE OF THEM IS THE IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DELAY THAT AT ALL.
UH, BUT WHILE WE'RE ALSO TALKING, WE'RE NOW TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE THINGS I, I, OR AT LEAST I HEAR THE MAYOR ADDING, UH, WHICH IS NEEDED IS THAT LONGER TERM LOOK.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALL, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT OUR COMMITMENT TO, UH, OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR ICONIC BUSINESSES.
AND THAT REALLY GOES TO 95 IN PARTICULAR, ALTHOUGH THERE'S CERTAINLY OVERLAP WITH 94, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE ENTITIES TO WHO WE ARE AS A CITY, UM, THAT THEY'RE REALLY THE HEART AND SOUL OF OUR CITY.
AND WE WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IS, HOW CAN WE WORK WITH THEM ON A LONGER TERM BASIS TO COME
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OUT OF COVID AND, AND, AND TO BE STRONGER INTO THE FUTURE.SO TO ME, THERE'S KIND OF TWO, TWO DIFFERENT PURPOSES.
THERE, THEY'RE A CONTINUUM AND THEY'RE BOTH IMPORTANT AND WE'RE MAKING A COMMITMENT TO BOTH OF, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO DO THAT.
IT'S JUST THE SECOND PIECE WE MIGHT NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THINKING ABOUT, UH, BECAUSE THE FIRST PIECE WAS REALLY WRITTEN WITH, UH, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOWN THIS ROAD, I THINK IT WAS WRITTEN MORE TOWARDS THE IMMEDIATE.
AND I THINK THE MAYOR SAID A GOOD JOB OF ADDING IN THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE LONGER TERM, BUT, UM, UM, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS A LITTLE MORE WORK.
SO WHAT WE MIGHT DO IS ADOPT SOMETHING AND INDICATE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE, SO YOU CAN GET STARTED IMMEDIATELY, BUT UNDERSTAND IN, UH, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, WE CAN SAY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND FLESH OUT THE PROGRAM FOR THE SECOND PIECE OF IT.
SO, UM, I KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU THE CLARITY YET THAT YOU WANT OR THAT YOU NEED, BUT THAT'S THE CONCEPT I THINK SO MAYBE WE DO IS ADOPTED, IS ADOPT A, A, UM, THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE JUST, AND JUST SAY, THESE ARE THE GUIDELINES FOR THIS INITIAL ASSISTANCE.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS OR WHENEVER WITH THE GUIDELINES FOR THE LONGER TERM ASSISTANCE, TWO PARTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WORKS, BUT I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
AND CAUSE I THINK THAT IF, IF WE WERE ADOPT 73, 74, 75, THEY COULD GET STARTED AND THEN THEY COULD DEVELOP THE CLEANER RULES AND CERTAINLY THE LONGTERM STUFF, WHICH OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO EVEN BEGIN TO APPROACH THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH THAT AND FLESH THAT OUT.
BUT AT LEAST THEN THEY COULD GET STARTED.
UH, THE OTHER PIECES OF THAT, I THINK MAKE THAT WORK IS WHAT DEBRA GAVE ME, WHICH WAS THE HANDOUT THAT I'VE ALSO GIVEN YOU, THAT KIND OF TIES 70 AND 72 AND 73, 74 TO 74 AND 75 WITH EACH OTHER, UH, IN TERMS OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, GRAB FUNDING AND YOU CAN GRAB IT FROM HERE.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT GIVES THEM THEN THAT FINANCIAL COMPONENT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD ENABLE OUR STAFF TO START, BUT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO COME BACK WITH THE, WITH, WITH A BETTER VERSION OR A ENHANCED VERSION OF THE, OF THE PROGRAM.
I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT WHAT YOU SUGGEST.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE DOCUMENT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, BUT, UM, WHICH ONE, WELL, YOU, YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A DOCUMENT THAT TIED THEM ALL TOGETHER.
I, I SEE THE AMENDMENTS TO 72, SO I'VE GOT THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
THEN THE 73 AND 74 WERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.
IT SAID ADLER MOTION SHEET ONE WAS 74 AND THE OTHER ONE WAS ADLER MOTION SHEET 75.
AND THEN, UM, DEBRA CAME WITH ME, WHICH HAS ALSO POSTED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD AND GIVEN TO EVERYBODY FROM KATIE, SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED ADLER MOTION SHEET ITEM 74 AND 75 AND 70 AND 72 IS VIOLENCE.
THAT'S ALSO GONE OUT AND LOOKS LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE I'M MISSING.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD ENABLE US TO GO FORWARD, TO GET THEM STARTED AND THE STAFF GET BACK BECAUSE AS I SEE IT, VERONICA AND RODNEY AND DEBORAH, THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THEN THE CRITERIA IN THAT FORM THAT BASICALLY PULLS IT FROM A RESOLUTION FROM THREE WEEKS AGO TO BE ABLE TO GET STARTED.
WHERE DO YOU WOULD APPRECIATE THAT? UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, ONCE AGAIN IN, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ULTRA SENATE BEST, WHICH IS SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER WE DO, WE'RE GOING TO BE SCRUTINIZED.
AND SO WE WANT TO OF COURSE GIVE THE CENTER THE GUIDELINES SO THAT WAY THEY CAN DO THE BEST JOB POSSIBLE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CAME UP WITH THE GUIDELINES, UM, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GET STARTED.
WE COULD BUILD THE OFF ENHANCED GUIDELINES.
I LIKE THAT TERM ENHANCED GUIDELINES, UH, FOR THE LONGER TERM.
AND WE COULD COME BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WHAT THOSE ENHANCED STRATEGY, ALISON.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MOTIONS ARE LIKE THEY ARE PROPOSING AND WHAT WOULD BE HURTING ON WHERE THE DIFFERENT PIECES ARE.
I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE A GENERAL AGREEMENT OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO.
I THINK WE AGREE ON WHAT'S ELIGIBLE.
I'M JUST NOT, I DON'T, I'M NOT SEEING HOW WE PUT ALL THE PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER YET.
I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING IN WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING IN THE MOTION
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SHEETS AND HANDED OUTSO I DON'T HAVE ONE THAT SAYS I MOVED TO FUSS ON SATURDAY FOUR.
I MAY HAVE ONE THAT SAYS, ITEM 75, WHERE DO I FIND THE 74 ONE? IT IS ALSO, IT'S AN APP BY KATIE AND IT IS ALSO ON THE MESSAGE BOARD.
SO BOTH PLACES, UH, AND IT'S, UM, UH, THERE'S SOME ITEMS 74 AND 75 ON THE MESSAGE BOARD.
IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, THERE ARE FIVE THINGS.
TWO OF THEM ARE, YOU CAN, THE FIRST ONE HAD THE TWO THINGS ARE THERE.
THERE'S THE RED LINE OF CHANGES TO 74.
AND THE RED LINE OF CHANGES TO 75.
NOW I HAD WRITTEN THEM TO SAY, I MOVED TO POSTPONE 74, POSTPONE 75 WITH THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION.
STAFF STAFF CAME BACK AND SAID, RATHER THAN POSTPONING 74 AND 75, JUST PASS THE RED LINE CHANGES THAT YOU HAVE MADE TO 74 AND 75.
BECAUSE IF YOU JUST PASS THOSE THINGS, WE CAN GET STARTED AND THEN WE CAN EDIT THEM AND CHANGE THEM IN TWO WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
BUT THIS WOULD ENABLE STAFF TO GET STARTED.
IMPORTANTLY, IT HAS THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA THAT CAME OUT OF THE RESOLUTION IN THE PAST THREE WEEKS AGO.
I FOUND THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU SAID THAT I'M TOGETHER.
SO I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, UH, YOU'LL, YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND AND ALL OF US UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THIS ATTACHED TO, IS IT, DOES IT, WELL, IT SAYS I MOVED TO A MEN ITEM 74 AND 75.
SO I GUESS THESE ARE AMENDMENTS ON BOTH OF THOSE, AND THEN YOU, UH, I THINK I SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW.
SO WHEN YOU'RE READY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AMENDMENT, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULDN'T POSTPONE 74 AND 75.
WE WOULD PASS THEM WITH THE CHANGES SHOWN IN THE RED LINE, DO IT PAST DEBRA'S AMENDMENT, THAT KIND OF SIZE, THAT WAY STAFF, IT STARTED COME BACK WITH MORE FORMAL GUIDELINES.
AND, UM, YES, BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RED LINES IN 75.
SO I MIGHT WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE HERE OR THERE.
I UNDERSTAND, UH, KATHY, UM, THANK YOU MAYOR.
I SEE THAT THERE'S, UH, THERE'S AN ITEM WITHIN THIS SHEET THAT YOU HANDED OUT THAT'S HERE IN A MINUTE.
UM, SO IT TALKS ABOUT AMENDING IT SO THAT NO MORE THAN 1.5 IS GOING TO BE USE FOR THE EMERGENCY RELIEF.
ARE YOU STILL INTENDING TO BRING THAT AS A FORMAL AMENDMENT TO, UM, 72, I'M NOT TIED TO THAT NUMBER.
I DON'T EVEN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS.
I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GOT COVERED HERE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS AS THEY WERE GETTING STARTED.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL THAT REALLY WAS, WAS JUST A PLACE HOLDER, NOT TIED TO THAT NUMBER.
DIDN'T MEAN TO LIMIT THAT NUMBER.
HOPEFULLY THIS PROGRAM WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
IT WILL BE LOOKING FOR MORE MONEY AND MORE PLACES.
I STILL WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE NUMBERS YOU HAVE.
CAUSE I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GREAT STREETS AND THE, AND THE WAGE FREEZE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD LAST WEEK.
AND YOU MAY HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THOSE NOW.
UM, BUT I'M NOT TIED TO THAT 1.5, THAT WAS A NUMBER AND JUST SAID, YOU CAN START ACCESSING THAT MONEY FOR THOSE THINGS.
AND SO THAT IS FOR THE NON ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE.
THAT WOULD BE FOR THE KIND OF DIRECT ASSISTANCE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I THINK THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD NUMBER, BUT THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING THAT GAVE ME SOME PAUSE IS THE REST OF IT.
THAT IT'S, IT'S SET UP, IT'S SET AS A HARD LIMIT AND THEN THE MANAGER WOULD NEED TO COME BACK AND ASK US TO AMEND IT IF WE WANTED, IF, IF THEY FOUND THEMSELVES NEEDING, SAY 2 MILLION.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THERE'S A WAY TO MASSAGE THAT LANGUAGE.
SO IT SAYS SOMETHING MORE LIKE IT'S OUR EXPECTATION THAT NO MORE THAN ABOUT 1.5 WOULD BE USED FOR THAT DIRECT IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE, UNLESS THE MANAGER COMES BACK AND INFORMS US THAT THERE, BUT THE NEED EXCEEDS LIKE THAT FINE WITH ALL THOSE CHANGES TOO.
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MY HOPE IS, IS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AS LITTLE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE AS WE CAN SO THAT WE CAN PUT AS MUCH OF THE CAPITAL TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATING THE, THE LONGER TERM WORKOUTS.SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE HOPE, YOU KNOW, THAT RATHER THAN SOMEBODY GOING IN AND JUST GIVING A LANDLORD FOUR MONTHS OF RENT, THERE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO SAY HERE'S FOUR MONTHS OF RENT, BUT IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, THIS IS WHAT I WANT.
AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO MISS THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE A LIMITATION.
I'LL THINK ABOUT SOME LANGUAGE THAT MIGHT HELP WITH THAT.
AND THEN I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT 71 AND I HAVE, UM, SOME AMENDMENTS TO 72 THAT ARE PART OF THE BASE MOTION, BUT I DO NEED TO ASK THE STAFF IN LOOKING AT THIS.
I KNOW WE WERE ALL DOING A LOT OF WORK REALLY QUICKLY SINCE THE LAST MEETING, UM, PIECE THAT IS CURRENTLY LEFT OUT OF 72 IS THE RIGHT OF WAY FUNDS.
SO THE DIRECTION THAT WE PASSED AT OUR LAST MEETING WAS SPOKE TO WHAT WE WANTED TO HAPPEN THIS YEAR WITH REGARD TO RIGHT AWAY, ENCOURAGEMENT STREET, NALLY VACATION.
BUT IT ALSO THEN, UM, ALLOCATED A LOT OF THAT FUNDING FOR THOSE THREE, FROM THOSE THREE SOURCES FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND 72 SPEAKS TO STREET NELLIE VACATIONS AND ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENTS, BUT IT DOES NOT SPEAK TO RIGHT AWAY.
AND I JUST REALIZED THAT YESTERDAY AT SPLAT YESTERDAY SLASH TODAY.
SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO IS POST THIS PAST WHAT IS HERE TODAY, BUT COME BACK WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY USE AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DON'T, WE CAN'T HAVE, WE CAN'T TIE THE HANDS OF FUTURE COUNCILS, EVEN IF, EVEN IF IT'S US, UM, TALKING ABOUT NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, BUT IT WAS, IT WAS SETTING IN PLACE SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND WE ARE DOING THAT WITH ALLIANZ STREET VACATIONS, BUT NOT WITH A RIGHT OF WAY AS KIND OF CONTEMPLATED.
DOES ANYBODY WANT ME TO EXPLAIN THAT OR IS THAT CLEAR? WELL, LET'S, LET'S LET'S FOCUS RIGHT NOW.
CAUSE I THINK WE COVERED THE WHOLE THING.
LET'S WORK OUR WAY THROUGH THIS LIST.
SO THE FIRST COMPONENT IS 70 TWOS IS GOING TO BE WHERE WE PUT THE MONEY PARK, THE MONEY OR PLACE THE MONEY INITIALLY, UH, 71 IS WHAT MONEY GETS PLACED THERE COULD, COULD WE JUST GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND LET'S UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAD STARTED TO DO.
I THINK IT'S AT THE WORK SESSION, UH, THERE WAS THE VEHICLE YEARS, WHICH WAS 550,000, WHICH IS OUR RECALL, KATHY, OUR STAFF SAID, YES, YOU COULD DO THAT.
THE NEXT COMPONENT WAS THE SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, WHICH WAS 300 THAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.
BUT, UH, IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE NOT DO THE 300.
I WAS SAYING IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN HERE.
SO ACTUALLY THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE NOT DO THE 300, BUT WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION BACK FROM THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
AND I THINK THEY SPOKE TO THIS IN OUR WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY THAT THEIR ENDING BALANCE CAME IN HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED.
AND PERHAPS, UM, SOMEBODY ON THE LINE CAN, CAN CLARIFY THAT, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY, THAT THEY HAD AN ADDITIONAL $2 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.
SO I FEEL LESS CONCERNED ABOUT, ABOUT IT THAN I DID THE OTHER DAY.
I, AT THIS POINT, MY STARTING PLACES THAT WE SHOULD TRANSFER THE WHOLE 3.7 MILLION BECAUSE IT LOOKS TO ME IF I UNDERSTOOD ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, IT LOOKS AS IF THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT HAS THE $300,000 TO DO THE SIGNALIZATION.
I BELIEVE THEY EVEN HAVE THE FUNDING IF THEY NEEDED AND WANTED TO, UM, OR THE MANAGER WANTED TO JUST STILL TRANSFER IT TO GREAT STREETS.
SO I FELT PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THIS, WITH, UM, DEPOSITING THE FULL 3.7.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE STAFF COME AND SPEAK TO THOSE TWO, THE THREE KATHY, JUST FOR KIND OF HEADS UP THAT THE FIVE 50 MADE SENSE TO ME, THE THREE 50 FOR THE TDM THEY SAID WAS OKAY, THE 300 FOR THE ACT THEY SAID IT WAS OKAY.
UM, SO THE THREE 50, THE 300 IS SIX 50 PLUS THE FIVE 50 IS 1,000,002.
THEN THERE WERE THREE OTHER ELEMENTS.
THERE WAS THE SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION THAT I HAD THOUGHT THAT YOU HAD RECOMMENDED.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM SPEAK TO THE FUND BALANCE QUESTION.
YOU'VE RAISED, THERE'S THE GREAT STREETS ELEMENT THAT WAS THE SEVEN 28 THAT WE HAD RAISED THE CONCERN ABOUT, UH, IF WE GOT
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A GREAT STREET'S DOLLARS, DOES THAT WE TOOK THAT.DOES THAT MEAN WE LOSE OUT ON BEING ABLE TO GET SOME OF THE RIGHT OF WAY ON DEVELOPING TRACKS THAT WE COULDN'T, WE DIDN'T GET IT NOW.
IT MIGHT FOREVER BE LOST ON THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM.
AND MY RECOLLECTION WAS IS THAT STAFF MATT IN THE MEANTIME, ISSUED A MEMO TO US THAT SAID, NO, DON'T TAKE THE GREAT STREETS MONEY BECAUSE THAT COULD WORK PREJUDICE.
THE THIRD COMPONENT AFTER THE SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION OF 300 AND THE GREAT STREETS AT THE SEVEN 28 WAS A FREEZE AND STAFF, I'M 1,000,004.
AND WE HAD ASKED THE QUESTION WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY COSTS ARE WE'RE ASSOCIATED THERE.
COULD WE LOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING? WOULD IT IMPACT PROGRAMS AND OUR PRIORITIES RIGHT AWAY, DESIGN INPUT FOR PROJECTS? WOULD IT SLOW DOWN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND PERMITTING WOULD HAVE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES FOR FASTER AND LESS DISRUPTIVE WORK.
THE CURRENTLY REDUCED, UH, UH, VOLUMES.
SO I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING AND I MAY HAVE MISSED IT.
WHETHER STAFF CAME BACK AND GAVE US THE REVIEW OF THE, OF THE SALARY FREEZE AND PART OF ME, KATHY, BECAUSE I SEE THIS AS BEING DYNAMIC AND NOT SET IT.
IF WE WEREN'T GOING TO GET A GREAT STREET'S MONEY OR THEIR MILLION FOR MONEY, OR THE 300 AND SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION.
NOW WE WOULD KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS WERE ALL THERE.
AND IF THE PROGRAM WAS SUCCESSFUL IN A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS, WE COULD GO SAY THAT MONEY WAS THERE.
WE'RE GOING TO GO GET THAT MONEY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO TAKE THAT MONEY.
NOW, IF THERE'S RISK ASSOCIATED WITH, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, THERE IS.
SO WHAT, WHAT OUR BUDGET AMENDMENT IS DOING IS TAKING THE MONEY FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT CAME IN THROUGH RIGHT AWAY.
THE GREAT STREETS, PART OF THAT IS THAT THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TRANSFERS, THEY TRANSFER IT TO HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I AM PROPOSING, I'M PROPOSING.
I BELIEVE THAT THE ENDING BALANCE AND TRANSPORTATION IS ENOUGH TO COVER THAT THEY STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THE GREAT STREETS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE, BUT GREAT STREETS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, BASED ON THE MEMO HAD 6 MILLION IN IT, IT HAS, UM, THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE 1.3 THAT WE ALLOCATED TO RED RIVER IMPROVEMENTS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE IT, THERE WAS OUR MEMO THAT CAME BACK 2.6 IN THE PROGRAM.
THAT'S UNALLOCATED IN ADDITION TO THE, THE EXPECTED TRANSFER OF 728, UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO FOUR ACTIVE DOWNTOWN PROJECTS, BUT I THINK THERE IS STILL, THERE'S STILL MAYBE A BALANCE IN THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM, BUT IN ANY CASE, REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE GREAT BALANCE, IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THERE WAS STILL MONEY IN THE TRANSPORTATION BUDGET TO COVER THOSE BECAUSE IT CAME IN, IT CAME IN AN EXCESS OF WHAT THE PROPOSAL WAS.
WAIT AFTER ANN SPEAKS IN MANAGER.
IF YOU COULD GET TRANSPORTATION STAFF TO BE READY TO SPEAK TO THE SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, THE GREAT STREETS COMPONENT, THE FREEZING STAFF AND THE FUND BALANCE QUESTION THAT KATHY HAS RAISED.
AND WELL, I WOULD JUST SAY I'M, I'M REALLY, UM, UH, WELL, I, I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS TO SAY, BUT I'M REALLY RELUCTANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT, UM, WE COULD TAKE THE SIGNALIZATION.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE STAFF MENTIONED THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY REASONS, AND I'M RELUCTANT TO DO THAT.
UM, AND, UM, I'M ALSO RELUCTANT TO MAKE A CHANGE RIGHT NOW ON THE TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS FROM WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.
SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT TOO, BUT, UM, BUT I, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST CONCLUDE JUST BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HIGHER FUND BALANCE THAT, THAT, THAT THOSE DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE.
SO I, I'M JUST, I'M UNEASY WITH THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT LET'S HEAR FROM THE DEPARTMENT.
PREMIERE COUNCIL, AS WE WAIT FOR DIRECTOR SPELLER TO GET MOVED OVER, WE DO HAVE DIRECTOR TRUE LAW WHO CAN SPEAK TO THE GREAT STREETS QUESTION.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ROSIE TREE LOVE DIRECTOR OF THE HOUSING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, IF I COULD GO BACK TO THE GREAT STREETS QUESTION, WE DO HAVE ABOUT $6 MILLION IN THE GREAT STREETS FUND, UM, THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF THE RED RIVER PROJECT.
SO THAT DOES NOT, THAT'S NOT IN ADDITION TO THE RED RIVER PROJECT.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 2.6 MILLION THAT IS CURRENTLY UNALLOCATED,
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UM, THAT COULD, THAT SHOULD BE COVERED ENOUGH TO COVER PROJECTS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE.UH, THERE ARE FOUR PROJECTS DOWNTOWN THAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING THROUGH THAT ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGES NOW.
AND, UH, THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO COVER, UH, THOSE PROJECTS, WHAT STOPPING THE TRANSFER WOULD DO, WOULD BE TO LIKELY SEE US, HAVE TO FREEZE FUTURE GREAT STREETS INITIATIVES.
UM, WE HAVE THE BULK OF THE DOLLARS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEYOND THE 2.6 MILLION ARE ALLOCATED TO OTHER, UM, PROJECTS OR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO REIMBURSE DEVELOPERS FOR GREAT STREETS IMPROVEMENTS, WE WOULD NEED TO BE LOOKING TO, UM, POTENTIALLY PUT THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ON HOLD.
SHOULD THEY COME TO FRUITION IN THE TIMEFRAME? UM, I DO HAVE CONCERN ABOUT, UM, STOPPING FUNDING FOR THE PROGRAM FOR TWO YEARS, CAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY SOURCE OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE GREAT STREETS PROGRAM.
UM, AND SO UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY SEE REVENUE INTO THAT FUND AGAIN IN TWO YEARS, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD LARGELY STALL US FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, WHICH IS NOT WHAT WE'RE POSTED TO DO.
AND TODAY, ANYWAY, I THINK THE, I THINK STOPPING MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PART OF 71 WOULD STOP THE TRANSFER FROM THE $728,000 TRANSFER FROM TRANSPORTATION INTO THE GREAT STREETS FROM, FROM THE PARKING MANAGEMENT REVENUE FUND.
IT DOESN'T DO IT FOR TWO YEARS.
SO THE MILLION DOLLAR TRANSFER THIS YEAR, IT DOES NOT MAKE, IT MAKES A 3 MILLION, $3.7 MILLION TRANSFER.
IT DOES NOT MAKE A TRANSFER FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND AGAIN, IF THERE WERE OTHER AVAILABLE FUNDS WITHIN TRANSPORTATION, THEY COULD STILL MAKE THE TRANSCRIPT.
THAT WAS A DECISION OF, OF THE MANAGER.
AND I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERSHIP.
I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THE SIGNALIZATION HAS TO HAPPEN.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE HOLD THAT.
I'M SIMPLY SAYING THERE'S OTHER MONEY IN THE, FROM WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS OF THE AVAILABLE BALANCE.
THERE'S OTHER MONEY TO COVER THAT IF THERE'S NOT OTHER MONEY TO COVER IT.
AND THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
WE CAN TAKE OUT THAT 300,000, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON BY READABLE FIGURES SO THAT I UNDERSTAND 71, KATHY, YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE FUNDING FOUR 71, THE FIVE 50 FROM THE VEHICLE ISSUE, MAYBE FIVE 50 FROM THE VEHICLE ISSUE, THE THREE 50 FROM TDM, THE 300 FROM ACT, WHICH TOGETHER THOSE THREE THINGS TOTAL 1,000,002.
AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT YOU'RE ALSO RECOMMENDING BASED ON IF CONTINGENT ON THE FUND BALANCE IS 300 FOR SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, SEVEN 28 FOR GREAT STREETS, WHICH IS 1,000,028 AND FREEZING STAFF, WHICH WAS 1,000,004.
UH, SO BASICALLY THAT'S THE WHAT'S WHAT'S IN DISCUSSION HERE.
IS THAT IN ESSENCE? JUST OVER 2.4.
SO, UH, ROBERT OR AT, UH, AD OR SOMEBODY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE 300 AND SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION? THE SEVEN 28 IN GRADE STREETS, THE UP TO 1,000,004 IN RAISING STAFF AND THE, UH, UH, FUND VIOLENCE POSSIBILITY.
IF SOMEBODY IS TALKING THEY'RE ON MUTE, HIS WAS TRYING TO SPEAK, BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS OUTLINED IN THE MEMO.
AND SO WE'LL JUST BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE MEMO SIGN AND PROVIDED ANY ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION.
ARE YOU ABLE TO GET UN-MUTED MAYOR? THIS IS ED VAN ANO, AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR, UM, FOR DIRECTOR SPILLER TO GET UN-MUTED, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING ON THIS ITEM.
THAT WAS THAT IT WOULD BE FOR TWO YEARS, THAT WAS A DIRECTION PROVIDED BY COUNCIL.
ON OCTOBER 1ST, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL NOTES FOR THESE ITEMS, YOU WILL SEE IN THE FIVE YEAR FORECAST, WE ARE PROJECTING A FISCAL IMPACT FOR TWO YEARS.
THE, UH, THE, THE ODDITY AT HAND IS THAT THIS ITEM IS AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 21 BUDGET.
AND THERE IS NO FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGET FOR US TO AMEND AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHERE WE TRIED TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THIS WOULD BE FOR TWO YEARS
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IN THE FISCAL NOTES, YOU'LL SEE A FISCAL YEAR 22 IMPACT FOR THE $3.7 MILLION AS WELL, A 3.7 IMPACT IN EACH OF THE NEXT, THIS YEAR IN MIXTURE EACH YES, MAYOR.WE SHOWED THAT IN THE FISCAL NOTE.
SO THAT'S WHAT OUR EXPECTATION IS.
GIVEN THE DIRECTION WE RECEIVED OCTOBER 1ST IN OUR FISCAL YEAR 22 BUDGET.
WHEN WE BRING THAT FORWARD TO COUNCIL, WE WOULD CONTINUE THIS FUNDING OR WHATEVER AMOUNT COUNCIL APPROVES AND THAT SYSTEM 22.
MAYBE ROUGH OR IS IT ROCKY? ME? YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES.
UH, IT'S THE SYSTEM BY FEDERAL, UM, WE PLAN ON A $3.7 MILLION CONTRIBUTION.
UH, UM, THAT'S REMEMBER TOW IS CORRECT.
WE WERE ABLE TO FIND SOME MORE FUN BALANCE.
AND SO MY PLAN HAD BEEN TO FUND THE SIGNAL WITH THAT FUND BALANCE, UH, AND THEN MOVED TO STARS, SIGN, CRAVING, VACANT POSITION BECAME AVAILABLE, UH, AND THAT WOULD LIMIT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO OUR TRANSPORTATION PROGRAM.
NOW THAT IS SHAMES THAT WE WERE AT LEAST, UH, UH, DEFERRING A GREAT STREET TRANSFER FOR THIS YEAR.
UH, I AGREE, UH, THAT WE WOULD PLAN TO BUILD IT IN, BUT OF COURSE, UH, IF, UH, PARKING REVENUES CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, LIKE WE THINK THEY WILL OVER THIS NEXT YEAR, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO RESTART THAT IN OUR FYE 22 BUDGET, UM, PROCESS.
AND SO THAT WOULD LIMIT THE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO, UM, A GREAT STREET, UM, FUND.
UH, I DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO TELL YOU WHAT THE EXACT IMPACT OF THE FREEZE OF VACANT POSITIONS ARE.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THOSE ARE NOT TYPICALLY PERMITTING POSITIONS, BECAUSE THOSE ARE PAID FOR BY THE AMOUNT OF PERMITTING THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND SO THOSE ARE NOT WHERE I WOULD EXPECT TO SLOW DOWN, OR I WOULD EXPECT TO SLOW DOWN IS OUR RESPONSIVENESS TO CITIZEN REQUESTS AND SO FORTH AS WE, UM, UH, SHIFTED STAFF TO TAKE CARE OF ENGINEERING POSITIONS.
UH, AND THEN, UM, CERTAINLY ON PROGRAMS THAT I'M DEFERRING, FOR INSTANCE, THE TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IN OUR PLANNING, WE WOULD LOSE STAFF FROM THOSE PROGRAMS INTO SUPPORT OUR ENGINEERING AND SUPPORT OUR PERMITTING TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T SLOW DOWN.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU REMOVE MONEY FROM A, UH, FULLY ALLOCATED BUDGET, UM, THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME CUTBACK IN SERVICES.
UM, BUT WITH THIS EXTRA FUND BALANCE, WE THINK OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS, WE CAN, UH, BRING BACK SOME OF THOSE, UM, SHORTAGES.
AND YES, I WOULD DEFINITELY FIND THE SIGNAL AGAIN WITH THAT FINE BALANCE.
AND THEN ASSUMING THAT WE DIFFER AT LEAST THIS YEAR, THE GREAT STREETS FUND THAT I'D BE ABLE TO BRING BACK SOME OF THOSE PRESIDENT POSITIONS YOU'RE OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
YOU WANNA RESPOND FIRST? WELL, I HAD SOME FOLLOW UP A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
ONE IS I JUST WENT BACK AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE 1.3 THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR RED RIVER HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE GRAVE STREET'S FUND AND RESIDES IN A SPECIFIC RED RIVER ENHANCEMENT FUND.
SO, UM, EITHER THAT INFORMATION WAS THAT INFORMATION DOES NOT SEEM CONSISTENT WITH THE INFORMATION WE JUST RECEIVED FROM YOUR DIRECTOR.
TRUE ABOUT THAT THAT 6 MILLION IS INCLUSIVE OF IT.
UM, SO JUST TO, AND THEN I HAD, UH, WANTED TO VERIFY A FEW THINGS WITH MR. SPILLER DIRECTOR SILVER, BUT I, WELL, WHILE I'M DIRECTOR TREWLOVE IS LOOKING INTO THAT, I WANTED TO SAY, UM, DR.
SPILLER, WHAT I HEARD YOU SAYING, AND I JUST WANT TO BE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING IT IS THAT SIGNALIZATION WOULD HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF, REGARDLESS OF THE AMOUNT THAT WE WE TRANSFER TODAY, BECAUSE IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY AND YOU INTEND TO DO IT OUT OF YOUR FUND BALANCE.
I WILL DO IT OUT OF THIS NEWLY FOUND FINE BALANCE.
AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE, UH, FISCAL NOTE THAT'S ASSOCIATED.
THERE IS THE ADDITIONAL FUND BALANCE.
THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PROJECT I WOULD FUND, UM, RIGHT NOW.
AND, UM, FOR THE PERSON'S DISTRICT THAT THAT'S IN, THAT IS THE LAST SIGNAL IN OUR PRIORITIZED LIST.
AND SO, UH, THAT WOULD NOT BE THE FIRST PROJECT I CONSTRUCT THIS YEAR.
IT WOULD BE THE FIRST PROJECT I WOULD FUND AGAIN WITH THE MONEY THAT I HAVE AN ELEMENT.
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YOU.I JUST DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY, ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY MISTAKEN IMPRESSION THAT WE ARE FUNDING THIS AT THE EXPENSE OF THAT PROJECT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYBODY ON THE DENTAL SUPPORT SIDE.
UM, MR. SPILLER, BACK IN THE SEPTEMBER 16TH, MOU CHOP, YOU TALKED, YOU HAD SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE GREAT STREET THAT I THOUGHT WAS WORTH PURSUING.
UM, THAT I, I KIND OF CAME AWAY WITH THAT.
IT SAID WITH THE ADVENT OF THE NEW TRANSPORTATION CRITERIA MANUAL, THE NEXT YEAR ESTABLISHED THE GREAT STREET DESIGN CRITERIA AS A STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT AND ALLOWING A FEE IN LIEU FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS PHYSICALLY UNABLE TO COMPLY.
AND SO TO ME, I, I CAME AWAY WITH THAT THINKING THAT, UM, THAT, THAT PROPOSAL THAT YOU WERE SUGGESTING WHERE ATP WOULD WORK WITH ZONING AND PLANNING TO ACHIEVE AN APPROPRIATE OUTCOME WOULD BE A WAY OF ACHIEVING THOSE AMENITIES AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT DOWNTOWN, THOSE LIVE SIDEWALKS, THOSE BENCHES WITHOUT NECESSARILY REQUIRING THIS INVESTMENT IN THE GREAT STREETS.
IS, AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, UM, COUNSELOR, UH, I THINK THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO PARTNER WITH HOUSING AND PLANNING TO LOOK AGAIN AT THE GREAT STREETS.
THIS IS A FUND AND A PROGRAM THAT WAS CONCEIVED, UM, UH, I BELIEVE OVER A DECADE AGO.
AND SO THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HAS GOTTEN, UM, TO HAVE A BENEFICIAL OUTCOME WHERE WE COULD MOVE TO A MORE STANDARD REQUIREMENT OF THIS.
UM, BUT THAT IS SORT OF A, UH, OFFER FOR ME TO COUNSEL AND TO CERTAINLY, UH, THE FUND OWNERS THAT, UH, THAT, UH, IF WE DELAY THE TRANSFER FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THIS NEED NOT BE A NECESSARILY A DOOMSDAY SCENARIO.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO RETHINK HOW WE DO THIS AND MAYBE STILL ACHIEVE THE GOALS LONG TERM AT THAT SPECULATIVE PART.
AND WE'RE CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT, UM, COUNSEL FOR TURBO, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET YOU AN ANSWER, UM, ON THAT FUND TODAY.
UM, THE INFORMATION THAT I HAD FROM STAFF THIS MORNING WAS SHOWING THAT IT WAS STILL THERE, BUT I'M HEARING THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN MOVED.
AND SO I'LL, I'LL GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT AND I'M HAPPY TO GET BACK TO YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT TONIGHT.
THIS CAME FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND IT DID ALL THE TALKING ABOUT THE APARTMENT.
I THINK LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, YOU'RE ASKING QUESTIONS FOR UP TO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE FIVE 50 FOR VEHICLE YEARS, THREE 50 FOR TDM, THE THREE FOR ACT AND BASED ON WHAT ROB JUST SAID, THE 300 FOR SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT COMING OUT OF SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION IS COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.
SO REALLY THE SINGLE CONSTRUCTION IS STAYING FINE.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU'RE TRULY JUST 300 COMING OUT OF THE FUND BALANCE.
AND I SEE ROBIN'S CAR, GIVE ME A THUMBS UP.
THAT'S A MILLION, FOUR 50, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE TAKING MONEY OUT OF THE GREAT STREETS AT THIS POINT.
UH, BUT IF WE HAVE A CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, IN A MONTH OR TWO, AND WE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT GREAT STREETS, UH, THEN I THINK YOU MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO DO IT THEN, BUT AT THIS POINT, GIVEN WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROJECTS, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT ON GREAT STREETS YET, BUT FOR ME, AND I LOOK AT THIS, THE STAFFING FREEZE AND, AND ROBERT, I I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO PUT 5 MILLION, 5 MILLION AND 5 MILLION INTO THOSE THREE BUCKETS, THE CHILDCARE, THE LEGACY, AND, UH, AND THE, AND THE MUSIC, IF, IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL AND IT WORKS, WE MIGHT NEED MORE MONEY IF IT'S WORKING, UH, IN WHICH CASE, THEN I THINK WE CAN GO GET MORE MONEY.
BUT AT THIS POINT, UM, WE HAVE ENOUGH THERE TO START AT.
THIS GIVES US AN ADDITIONAL MILLION, FOUR 50, UH, THAT COULD BE IN THIS ACCOUNT ON TOP OF THAT 15 MILLION ON THE STAFFING FREEZE QUESTION, ROB, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE GIVING UP TO ME? I MEAN, I MEAN, ANYBODY CAN GIVE UP MONEY OUT OF THE BUDGET.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE TRADE OFFS ARE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, SHOULD WE, AT THIS POINT BE GOING AFTER THE MILLION FOUR, SHOULD WE BE WAITING UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SEE THAT THE PROJECTS WORK AND THERE'S A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY? SHOULD WE BE PULLING OUT 500 FROM THAT AS OPPOSED FIVE 50 FROM THAT AS OPPOSED TO 1,000,004? SO THEN YOU'RE RIGHT.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I MEAN, WE HAVE DEDICATED DIRECTORS HERE AND I'M SURE IF WE WENT TO ANY DIRECTOR AND SAID, SACRIFICE YOUR BUDGET FOR THIS THING, THAT'S A REALLY HIGH
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PRIORITY.I'M TRYING TO WEIGH THAT IN VALUE THAT, ESPECIALLY IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE FOUND 15 MILLION AND WE NEED TO SEE THAT ACTUALLY CAN WORK AND SEE WHAT THE SCOPE AND SCALE OF THE PEOPLE ARE.
SO, BUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FUND IT WITH SOMETHING.
I MAY HAVE FOUR 50, UH, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH NOT SO MUCH THE GREAT STREETS I'M FOCUSED ON JUST YEAR ONE, AS OPPOSED TO YEAR TWO, BECAUSE THE YEAR TWO MONEY DOESN'T COME TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE REALLY CAN'T SPEND IT NOW.
AND I THINK THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT DECISION LATER AS WE GOT CLOSER TO FISCAL YEAR, TYPICALLY, BUT IN FISCAL YEAR, ONE WITH MONIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN THIS BUDGET, NOW THAT WE COULD GRAB, GET, AND PULL AND PUT INTO A PROGRAM, I'M AT A MILLION, FOUR 50 PLUS, WHATEVER IT IS, IF ANY, THAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER FROM THE STAFFING FRUITS.
IF I CAN ADD JUST ONE THING, YOU KNOW, UM, IF YOU DO NOT CHOOSE TO, UH, FOREGO THE GREAT STREETS TRANSFER AND YOU DEFINITELY WANT ME TO BUILD THE SIGNAL, THAT'S ROUGHLY $1.1 MILLION, RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S ALMOST THE EXTRA FUND BALANCE THAT I COUNT.
GIVE OR TAKE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, THE STAFFING, IT WILL SLOW ME DOWN THIS YEAR.
UH, THERE'S, THERE'S NO WAY I CAN GET AROUND IT.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY PLACE THAT I ADD AT YOUR FUND, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO WAIT, EVEN IF THAT MEANS YOU ASK MORE OF ME NEXT YEAR, IT GIVES ME A YEAR TO PLAN FOR THAT AND BUDGET FOR IT, UM, TO PREPARE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY THE DILEMMA NOW IS, IS THAT THESE FUNDS WERE ALREADY PROGRAMMED.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR, TO GIVE IT UP.
UM, CAUSE YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, I WAS ASKED TO MARCH AND I MARCHED TO GET YOU THESE NUMBERS, BUT IT WOULD BE MUCH EASIER TO TRY TO PROGRAM THOSE MONIES INTO NEXT YEAR.
UH, IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
UM, BUT WHAT I PRESENTED TO YOU HERE IS A WAY THAT I COULD AFFORD A $3.7 MILLION TRANSFER THIS YEAR, BUT HE REQUIRES ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUS THAT'D BE GREAT STREETS TRANSFER.
THERE IS NO NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT I WOULD OFFER UP.
UH, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT NUMBER YOU NEED? NOT, I MEAN, THAT'S THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, BUT I'LL HAVE TO ACCEPT BACK, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S AN ENTERPRISE I HAVE TO BALANCE THE FINE.
AND SO, UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT IF I LOSE FIVE, THEN I'LL SERVE EITHER WAY.
UM, BUT SO WHAT I WOULD BE MOST COMFORTABLE WITH CATHY IS TAKING THOSE FOUR, THE VEHICLE YEARS TO SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION, TDM AND ACT WHICH TOTAL A MILLION, FOUR 50, BECAUSE ROB SAYS HE CAN STILL DO PRETTY MUCH EVERY BIT OF WHAT HE WOULD OTHERWISE BE DOING.
EVEN IF WE TOOK THOSE DOLLARS AWAY.
UH, ALISON RAISED THAT'S CORRECT.
THE MATH IS ALLISON RAISED HER HAND.
DID YOU WANT TO TALK? UM, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM WITH DEFERRING THE GREAT STREETS REVENUE.
I MEAN, THIS SAYS THAT THERE WOULD BE STARTED ANTICIPATED TO HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT TO DEFER IT.
SO MAYBE I MISSED SOMETHING, BUT HIS MEMO SAYS THAT I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER THAT WAS, COULD BE CURRENT PROGRAMS, BUT WHAT DIRECTOR TRUE INVESTMENTS ARE SENT THIS MORNING.
I JUST MEAN WON'T THE STREET IMPACT FEES FEED INTO THAT AS WELL.
UM, FROM EVER, THIS IS ROB
AND REMEMBER THERE'S A YEAR'S DELAY BEFORE THEY COME IN.
UM, YES, THAT MAY HAVE AN ABILITY TO HELP PAY FOR CAPACITY DOWNTOWN STREETS, WHICH INCLUDES THE SIDEWALKS.
MY CONCERNS WITH TAKING THAT MONEY OUT OF GREAT STREETS PROGRAMMING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE WOULD BE PUTTING SOME INITIATIVES AT A STANDSTILL, RIGHT? WHEN PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO UTILIZE MORE BICYCLING WALKING CAFE SPACE, RESTAURANT SPACE OUT CLOSER TO THOSE AREAS THAT ARE MORE COMMONLY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE.
SO WITHOUT HAVING THAT BACKUP PLAN AND HAVING ADDITIONAL MONEY IDENTIFIED TO MAKE SURE THE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS KEEP GOING, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH TAKING THAT MONEY OUT OF THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.
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JUST TO, JUST TO BACK UP A LITTLE AND THEN WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO ON THIS IS, IS GOING TO GET DONE.BUT JUST TO KIND OF BACK UP AND STEP BACK FOR A MINUTE, WE HAD A MEMO PRIOR TO THE DISCOVERY OF AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION THAT SAID 3.7 COULD BE TRANSFERRED, RIGHT? THE 728 FROM GREAT STREETS.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T NEED IT FOR THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE AN ENTIRE YEAR TO REPLENISH THAT THROUGH THE STREET VIEWS AND THE PARKING, THOSE, THOSE FUNDS HAVE NOT BEEN, ARE NOT NECESSARY FOR, FOR THE COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
THERE'S A FUN BALANCE IN PARKING AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, I GUESS.
UM, I WOULD SAY MAYOR, AS YOU, AS YOU STATE WHERE WE'RE TAKING IT FROM, I WOULD ASK JUST AGAIN FOR, FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY THAT WE SAY AS YOU DID THAT WE'RE TAKING THE 300,000 FROM TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION RATHER THAN, I MEAN FROM FUND BALANCE RATHER THAN TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION, BUT I THINK THE ADDITIONAL MILLION OR THE ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION THAT ATG FOUNDED FUND BALANCE SINCE SEPTEMBER 16 REALLY COVERS THIS GAP.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE A YEAR OR TWO THAT 728 FOR GRADE STREETS IS NOT COMMITTED THIS YEAR.
THEY CAN MEET THEIR COMMITMENTS FOR THIS YEAR, INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO, INSTEAD OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT MONEY OUT WORKING RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU NEED IT FOR, FOR THOSE VENUES THAT PRETTY CLOSE IN THIS NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE PARKING IT IN A FUND OVER THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT OR PARKING IT IN THE GREAT STREETS FUND OVER IN HOUSING AND PLANNING.
SO THAT'S THE CHOICE BEFORE US.
AND, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE FUNDS THAT ORIGINATED WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY REVENUE, THE RIGHT OF WAY REVENUE AT SOME POINT.
YEAH, WELL BEYOND, WELL, BEFORE ALL OF OUR TIME ON COUNCIL, UM, SOME COUNCIL VOTED THAT ALL OF THAT RIGHT AWAY FEES WERE GOING TO GET TRANSFERRED TO THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
THEY COULD HAVE BEEN TRANSFERRED TO THREE DEPARTMENTS AND SPLIT AMONG, AMONG THOSE THREE, BUT THE DECISION WAS MADE TO TRANSFER THEM ALL.
I THINK THERE'S A VERY LEGITIMATE REASON WHY RIGHT AWAY YOU SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR BROADER PURPOSES, INCLUDING, UM, INCLUDING BUSINESS SUPPORT BECAUSE BUSINESSES ARE OFTEN IMPACTED WHEN RUN RIGHT OF WAYS ARE OBSTRUCTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONCERN.
I REPRESENT THE AREA WHERE THE GRADE STREETS ARE, ARE INVESTED WITH A GREAT STREET DOLLARS ARE INVESTED.
I THINK THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING ON RED RIVER IS GOING TO BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF PLACEMAKING AND STREETSCAPE.
AND HAVING SAID THAT, I STILL FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE THAT, UH, THAT WE HAVE THAT QUESTION TO TRANSFER THAT SEVEN 28.
BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND MOVE ON, JUST UNDERSTAND WE'RE GOING TO BE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MONEY SITTING IN FUNDS FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BUSINESSES CLOSING.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A LEGITIMATE QUESTION HERE ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD GET THAT MONEY, UM, INTO CIRCULATION AND HELPING, HELPING RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S, IF THERE'S A REASONABLE CHANCE THAT THERE'LL BE REPLENISHED.
UM, MAYOR, I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IF YOU'RE, I WOULD ASK THEM THAT YOU WITHDRAW THAT 1.5 CAP BECAUSE IT MAKES NO SENSE IF WE'RE NOT EVEN AT 1.5 IN THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND, WELL, LET ME GO ABOVE 1.5 AND WE CAN ADJUST THAT CAP.
CAUSE AGAIN, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST THERE.
I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I'M TRYING TO KIND OF READ WHAT IT IS THE ROPS SAYING.
YOU'RE NOT SAYING, I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE FIVE 50 WE PULL OUT AND THERE'S NOT AN IMPACT IN THE THREE 50 AND 300, UH, THAT THERE'S JUST NOT AN IMPACT WITH THOSE THINGS.
AND THAT'S SIX 50 AND FIVE 50.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S 1,000,002, AND THEN THERE'S $2 MILLION IN THE FUND BALANCE, RIGHT.
THAT ROB SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT IS EXTRA MONEY.
I MEAN, WHAT IF WE, WHAT IF WE, I'M SORRY.
I THINK IT WAS, I SAID THAT AND I MADE A MISTAKE.
IT WAS 800 WAS THE PROJECTED FUND BALANCE.
SO I THINK IT'S 1.1 OVER WHAT THE BUDGET WE PASSED, BUT ROB WOULD HAVE TO CUT ROBIN HALF TO CONFIRM THAT WHAT IF WE TOOK FIVE 50 IN VEHICLE THREE 50 AND TDM 300 AND ACT, AND THE MAIN ONE IN THE, IN THE FUND BALANCE FOR A TOTAL OF 3.3.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN WE KNEW, YOU KNOW, IF, IF LATER ON IN THE YEAR, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND, WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A DIFFERENT, ADDITIONAL MONEY.
THERE'S POTENTIALLY A GREAT STREET'S MONEY AND POTENTIALLY STAFF FREEZE MONEY, BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
I'M, I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IN THE GREAT STREETS, FUNNY AS ROSIE
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SCENE IN HER MEMO SAID, MY GOD, WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T, DON'T GIVE UP THE GREAT STREETS MONEY.AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY GET RIGHT AWAY AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY AT RISK, BUT IF IT IS, THEN IF I TOOK THE FIVE 50, THE THREE 50 AND THE 300 PLUS THE MILLION ONE THAT WOULD GET ME TO, UM, UH, 2.3 AND THAT MIGHT BE A WAY TO START THE, THE, THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FUND.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE, KEVIN, SIR, I NEED YOU TO REITERATE.
UM, BUT, BUT I THINK, I THINK WHAT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE TAKING 2.3, RIGHT? AND YOUR PROPOSAL, AND THEN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WILL SORT OF DETERMINE HOW BEST TO WRITE ABSENCE, TO CONTINUE TO FIND WHAT THEY SEE AS A HIGH PRIORITIES.
DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU ROUTE? YES.
SO IT'D BE, IT'D BE FIVE 50 OUT OF VEHICLE YEARS.
YOU SAID, TAKE IT TO TDM THREE 50.
YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT OTHERWISE EIGHT OR, OR NEEDS TO BE RECORDED.
ANYHOW, YOU SAID THE 300 AND ACT, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DELAY THAT ANYHOW.
SO IF ALL THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE DELAYED, ANYHOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A MILLION TO THOSE THREE THINGS.
PLUS THE 1.1 AND THE FUND BALANCE THAT WOULD, IT'S EXTRA MONEY THAT YOU HAVEN'T PROGRAMMED.
SO KATHY, IF IT WORKED FOR YOU, I WOULD MOVE TO AMEND YOUR 71 TO BE 2.3 A TO BE THE INITIAL FUNDING OF THE ACCOUNT.
IS THAT STANFORD HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT TO CATHY'S I HAVE A QUESTION.
YOUR IMMEDIATE COUNCIL MEMBER, SORRY.
THAT WAS NOT MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE WHEN SHE TALKED ABOUT, SHE MADE A REMARK ABOUT THE 1.5 LIMIT THAT YOU'VE GOT IN YOUR AMENDMENT.
UM, I'M READING THAT 1.5 LIMIT TO GO TO THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, NOT JUST TO THE AMOUNT THAT IS, THAT THAT'S IN 71.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT, I JUST DIDN'T WANT KATHY TO BE THINKING THAT THAT'S WHAT THAT 1.5 WAS ON.
I DIDN'T THINK IT APPLIED TO 75.
I THINK IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE IF THAT'S ALL IT APPLIES TO.
SO WE STILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THAT AMENDMENT CAUSE I'M THERE YET, BUT OKAY.
AND THERE, I WAS ONLY JUST TRYING TO SAY, I LIKE A LOT OF IT TO GO TO.
I JUST THINK IT ONLY APPLIES IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, THEN THE WILL BE TO TAKE 2.3 OUT AND FUND IT INITIALLY.
SO 71 WOULD BE 2.3 AND WE WOULD PASS 72 AS THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FUND WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD BE PARKED.
AND MAYOR, I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE OUR BUDGET STAFF MADE SURE WHAT THIS POSTING, SOME REFLECTS THE AMENDMENT CHANGES.
AND SO WE MIGHT JUST NEED A MINUTE FOR THAT, BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOUR DIRECTION AND, AND MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOUR, YOUR AMENDMENT TO 72 SEPARATELY, RIGHT? YES.
MY, MY INITIAL AMENDMENT FOR 72 HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE PART OF 72, BUT THE WOMAN YOU WERE READING AT 74 75, 70 AND 72 IS NOT PERFORMANCE YET.
SO THE MAYOR, I THINK YOU CAN, UM, IT WOULD BE EASY TO FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE BY YOUR EMOTION, BY LOOKING AT THE POSTING LANGUAGE, THERE'S $3 DOLLAR AMOUNTS IN THERE.
UM, I THINK YOU WOULD BE REDUCING THE 3.7 MILLION DOWN TO 2.3 MILLION.
THE A 1,000,006 99, 615,000 OF EXPENDITURE REDUCTIONS WOULD BE LOWERED TO 1.2 MILLION.
AND YOU CAN SIMPLY STRIKE THE PORTION ABOUT TRANSFERRING INTO $728,000.
WE WOULD NO LONGER DO THAT PART OF THE, WE JUST WOULDN'T DO THAT PART.
THAT THAT WAS THE GREAT STREETS PART.
RIGHT? WHAT THAT DOES THEN, IS IT NETS A TOTAL OF 2.3 FROM TRANSPORTATION AND PUTS IT INTO THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FUND THAT CAFES IFC CREATE? THAT IS CORRECT.
I UNDERSTAND AS WELL, MARRIAGE.
I THINK, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WORKS FOR TODAY.
I THINK THERE, AND I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT DIDN'T COME BACK TO US THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS THE CARPETING
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MARKETING OBJECTS.THAT WAS, I THINK SOMEWHERE LIKE THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THEN IT GOT POSTED AROUND.
SO AS WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE, AS WE ARE, AS OUR STAFF ARE MAKING GRANTS AND USING THIS MONEY TO HELP PROVIDE THOSE CRITICAL RESOURCES TO OUR VENUES, UM, PERHAPS THAT'S SOMETHING MANAGER THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR WHEN THAT'S COMING OUT, BUT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER SOURCE OF AVAILABLE FUNDING LEST IT JUST, IT LESS, WE ALL FORGET IT.
THE SLACK CONTRACT SOUNDS GOOD.
AND, AND, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A PROJECT HERE THAT ACTUALLY ENABLES US TO SAVE ICONIC PLACES AND IN WAYS THAT HAVE US COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC STRONGER THAN WE WENT IN AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SEARCHING FOR MORE MONEY IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE MORE DEALS.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
WE'RE VOTING ON 71 AND 72 70 IS A 2.3 AND 72 CREATES THE FUND THAT THE 2.3 GOES INTO, YES, I'M LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE OF YOUR AMENDMENT TO 72.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY.
SO IT REFERENCES, UM, THIS IS THE AMENDMENT THAT REFERENCES RETURNED.
THE CITY MASTER IS DIRECTED TO RETURN TO COUNCIL WITH A PROGRAM TO USE THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND IN A MANNER THAT CAN BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY COUNCIL BY NOVEMBER 12TH.
SO I READ THIS AS IT TALKS ABOUT USING THIS FUND TO COVER THE COST OF CASE MANAGEMENT, PROFESSIONAL, LEGAL ACCOUNTING, ET CETERA, I'M READING THIS, THAT IT APPLIES TO ALL OF THE SAMES FUNDS, ALL THREE OF THEM.
AND I WANT TO VERIFY THAT BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS SAVES FUNDS AND IT DOESN'T NAME WHICH ONES.
SO IT'S SO, UM, SO CITY MANAGER, I AM READING THAT TO APPLY TO ALL THREE SAVES FUNDS.
WHAT IS IT YOUR, YOUR AMENDMENT, THIS IS YOUR MISSION.
MY INTENSE CATHY'S INTENT ON THIS.
SO I WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO, SO THE QUESTION, THE ANSWER ASKING IS, IS IT JUST FOR 74 AND 75 OR IS IT ALSO FOR 73? WHAT IS THIS? I'M SORRY.
THE MONEY THEY'RE GOING INTO THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT FUND, IS THAT AVAILABLE FOR SAVES? IS THAT ALL THREE SAVES FUNDS 73, 74 75? OR IS IT JUST 74 70? I'M NOT SURE.
I HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON THAT.
WHAT ARE YOU OFFERING? I WOULD GIVE THE GREATEST FLEXIBILITY THAT OUT OF ALL THREE, ALL THREE.
THEN MY SECOND QUESTION OF ALL OF DETERMINED THAT IS ABOUT THIS LANGUAGE.
I'M READING THIS, THAT THE WHAT'S COMING TO BACK TO US BY NOVEMBER 12TH IS HOW WE'RE USING THE FUNDS FOR THE CASE MANAGEMENT, THE PROFESSIONAL LEGAL ACCOUNTING AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
SO I GUESS THAT WOULD MEAN COMING BACK TO US AND SAYING, HEY, HERE'S WHO WE'RE USING.
THIS IS THE KIND OF, I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO WHAT IS COMING BACK TO US BY NOVEMBER 12TH.
THAT'S HOW, AND, AND, AND YOU'VE RAISED AN INTERESTING POINT HERE BECAUSE THIS WAS WRITTEN, THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST AMENDMENT WAS WRITTEN.
AND BEFORE WE ACTUALLY STARTED GIVING FORM TO WHAT'S HAPPENING, WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT STOPS THIS MONEY FROM BEING ABLE TO YOU BE USED BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 12TH FOR THE PURPOSES, SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY START MOVING TO GET THE EMERGENCY RELIEF AND START DOING THE ADMINISTRATIVE WORK.
SO PROBABLY THE WORDING IN THAT AMENDMENT SHOULD BE CHANGED.
I'M HAPPY YOU POINTED IT OUT SO THAT IT'S NOT HOLDING THINGS UP.
SO JUST SAYS THE, UM, PROBABLY THAT SHOULD SAY THE CITY MANAGER, UH, CAN UTILIZE, UH, BUSINESS FUND.
MAY I HAVE A SUGGESTION? I WOULD CHANGE TODAY TO OCTOBER 29TH.
SO IT MAKES IT CLEAR THAT, UM, THE FUNDS CAN BE SPENT BEFORE THEM, BUT THAT THEY COME BACK AND LET US KNOW HOW YOU'RE DOING IT.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THE AMENDMENT THAT I HAD BEFORE THAT WE'VE PUT IN? IT WOULD CHANGE THE FIRST LINE.
SO AS TO ALLOW THE CITY MANAGER
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TO USE A BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUNDS IN THE WAYS THAT ARE LISTED AND TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL BY OCTOBER 29TH AND REPORT TO US ON HOW THAT'S HAPPENING, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S HAPPENED, MY INTENT THERE, MY INTENT THERE FOR ANNE I'M LOOKING AT DIRECTOR TO CINEO OR ACM.MY INTENT THERE IS, IS TO COME BACK AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THESE PROFESSIONALS AND, AND HOW YOU MIGHT ENGAGE THEM IF YOU HAVEN'T ENGAGED THEM BY THEN.
AND IT'S A MATTER OF TELLING US IF YOU'VE GOT A PLAN FOR ENGAGING THEM, IT'S A MATTER OF TELLING US SO WHEREVER YOU'RE AT, WELL, OCTOBER 29TH, DOES THAT MAKE YOU? YEAH.
AND THEY'RE NOT LIMITED FROM BEING ABLE TO ALREADY START.
SO IT'S IN A MANNER THAT YOU REVIEWED APPROVED ADDING THE WORDS OR AFFIRMED BY COUNCIL BY OCTOBER 29TH, THE INTENT BEING THAT IF YOU'RE READY TO LAUNCH EARLIER THAN OCTOBER 29TH, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
I DO HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT TIMELINE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY TRY OUR BEST TO MAKE THAT TIMELINE, BUT, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF HAS MOVED MOUNTAINS IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS AND WE'RE VERY LEAN.
UM, AND WE'RE NOW BEING, UM, NOT ONLY ARE WE COMING BACK ON THE 29TH, BUT THE CHAPTER THREE 80 PROPOSED REVISIONS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ROLLING OUT THE EMERGENCY, UM, PART OF THIS AND THAT SECOND STEP OF THE ENHANCED GUIDELINES THAT COUNCIL IS NOW DISCUSSING.
I REALLY DO THINK WE NEED SOME TIME.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A, A TEMPERATURE CHECK, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, I THINK, I THINK THE INTENT, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, RIGHT.
IT'S TO SAY THE CITY MANAGER CAN UTILIZE THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND, UH, IN, IN A MAT IN THE MANNER INDICATED BELOW, UM, SO THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE THAT, UM, AND THAT, UM, AND YOUR REPORT TO, TO, TO COUNSEL ON, ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO WE NOW IT'S BEEN FLESHED OUT MORE.
SO WHAT WE CAN SAY IS THE CITY MANAGER CAN UTILIZE THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND IN THE MANNER INDICATED BELOW AND SHALL REPORT TO COUNCIL BY OCTOBER 29TH, UH, AS TO ANY USES THAT ARE BEING MADE.
I THINK IF IT HAS REPORT ON THE STATUS, WE CAN DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO YEAH.
AND I'M NOT SURE THERE'S ACTUALLY A PROGRAM TO DEVELOP WITH THAT.
IT'S, IT'S MORE, THE MONEY'S BEING PARKED THERE TO BE ABLE TO BE USED IN THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT YOU'VE DEVELOPED.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN EXPECTATION TO DEVELOP A SEPARATE PROGRAM.
SO IT WOULD BE FURTHER RESOLVED.
THE CITY MANAGER CAN UTILIZE THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND IN THE MATTERS IN THE MATTER INDICATED BELOW, UH, AND SHALL REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL BY OCTOBER 29TH AS TO ANY USAGE.
YES, ALISON MR. GONZALEZ HAD HIS HAND UP, MAYBE HE SHOULD GO FIRST.
AND I APPRECIATE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, KITCHEN'S ATTEMPT TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THIS PIECE OF IT THAT WOULD HELP US.
UM, IT DOES SOUND LIKE COUNCIL INTENDS TO USE THE FUND, UH, FOR THE OTHER THREE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT YOU ALL HAVE READ IN THE PRACTICE OF THE SOLUTION.
SO MAY OR MAYBE IT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE GUIDELINES THAT ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR THE EMERGENCY RELIEF THAT WOULD AT LEAST GIVE US SOME MORE INDICATION TO COUNSEL TENTS FOR THE USE OF THIS MONEY.
UM, AND THEN TO VERONICA'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO COME BACK AND INFORM YOU OF WHERE WE ARE.
WE CERTAINLY WILL DO THAT, BUT AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME GUIDELINES THAT WE'VE ALREADY ESTABLISHED SOME OF THOSE, THIS PROGRAMS. UM, AND IF WE COULD JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE GUIDELINES AND TO HELP US WITH SOME CLARITIES THAT WAY WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MISSTEPS IN USING THESE FUNDS, SORRY, WHAT DID WE SAY IS THE CITY MANAGER CAN UTILIZE THE VISITOR'S PRESERVATION FUND IN THE MATTERS INDICATED BELOW IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROGRAMS. THE GUIDELINES SAID THAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING THE SAVES GUIDELINES.
THE CITY MANAGER CAN UTILIZE THE VISIT PRESERVATION FUND IN THE MATTER INDICATED BELOW IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SAFETY GUIDELINES.
DO WE NEED A FORMAL REPORTING FUNCTION? AND IF WE SAY THAT,
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NO, I DON'T.NO, I DON'T THINK WE NEED THAT.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU, THE CITY MANAGER.
I'LL GET TO YOU IN ONE SECOND.
ALLISON WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS A SALES MANAGER CAN UTILIZE BITS OF PRESERVATION FRONT OF THE MATTER INDICATED BELOW IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SAVES GUIDELINES.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THOSE PROVISIONS THAT WERE DOWN BELOW THAT ARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SAME SKYDIVE, ALISON.
SO I THINK I FINALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IT.
SO WE'VE LIKE 71, WE'VE IDENTIFIED AN EXTRA POT OF MONEY OF 2.3 MILLION.
AND WE'RE PUTTING THAT IN WHAT WE'RE CALLING THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND, WHICH IS 72 72 REALLY SUP SUPPLEMENTS, 73, 74 AND 75 WITH A GOAL OF GETTING OUT THE DOOR HELP, UM, HAVE A CHARACTER THAT IS TECHNICAL OR REALLY IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE FOR EMERGENCIES.
AND WE ARE DELEGATING THAT TO STAFF, TO DO WHAT THEY THINK NEEDS TO GET DONE, TO GET THAT OUT THE DOOR.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A WHOLE LOT OF RESTRICTIONS ON THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT MONEY AS THEY BEST SEE FIT FOR WHAT WE NEED AT THIS STAGE, WHETHER IT'S THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE OR IT'S PAYING FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO PROVIDE MORE THINGS.
THE ONLY TWIST I WOULD MAKE ON THAT IS THAT THE GUIDELINES WITH RESPECT TO CHILDCARE DO NOT HAVE THE SAME PROVISIONS ABOUT THE EXPERTISE, THE GUIDELINES THAT THE STAFF SUBMITTED WITH RESPECT TO CHILDCARE, MIRROR, MORE OF THE CHILDCARE FUNDS THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY HAD EXPERIENCE WITH, WHICH HAVE DIFFERENT PRICES.
SO I WOULD DIFFER WITH YOU AND NOT THE PRESERVATION FUND MONEY SHOULD ALSO HELP CHILDCARE FOLKS TO NEGOTIATE THEIR RENTS AND THEIR LEASES, UM, FOR THEIR FACILITIES.
AND THAT KIND OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE COULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE CHILDCARE CENTERS.
SO TO THAT EXTENT, I THINK THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE COULD BE DEPLOYED AS DETERMINED BY EDD IN THOSE SITUATIONS AS WELL.
SO WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING ITEM NUMBER 73, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE IF THERE'S A LINE WE CAN STICK IN THE GUIDELINES IN 73 THAT SPEAKS TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF ASSISTANCE.
AND WE HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THAT AT WORK SESSION.
AND THEY HAD SAID THEY DIDN'T NEED TO CHANGE THE GUIDELINES, AT LEAST FOR BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT WE CAN CONFIRM THAT WHEN WE GET THERE, THEN 73 IS PROVIDING THE RELIEF FOR CHILDCARE, THOSE GUIDELINES GOING TO GET TO, BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BUILDS OFF OUR PRIOR PROGRAM.
THAT ONE CAN PROBABLY GET STARTED TOMORROW.
CAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A GRANT ADMINISTRATOR THAT WORKED WELL.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE 74 AND 75 THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP WORKING CORRECTLY.
YOU PROBABLY PASSED SOMETHING IN 74, 75 TODAY, SO THEY CAN GET STARTED, BUT ALLOWING FOR THE STAFF TO COME BACK TO, TO DO MORE, IF THEY THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT OR NECESSARY.
WELL, MAYOR, WHEN WE GET TO IT, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS ABOUT 75.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK ON THAT POINT.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE CHANGES MADE TO MY AMENDMENT THAT WE READ INTO THE RECORD A SECOND AGO, HEARING ON THAT CHANGES MADE TO THOSE AMENDMENTS 71 AND 72 IN FRONT OF US, THEY'VE BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED, KATHY, JUST TO VERIFY, UM, THAT WE ARE ALSO MOVING APPROVAL WITH MY AMENDMENTS EMBEDDED WITHIN IT.
AND WHAT WAS YOUR AMERICAN? OKAY.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE LANGUAGE TO 72.
THEY WERE DISTRIBUTED EARLIER.
CAN YOU RUN THROUGH WHAT THEY ARE? I'M NOT SURE.
UM, AND I WOULD JUST ALSO SAY BEFORE I GET TO THAT, UH, THE QUESTION YOU HAD ASKED ME EARLIER ABOUT WHERE I SAW THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION FUND, UM, ASSISTING, I THINK WE COVERED THE CHILDCARE AS WELL.
SO I, I THINK WE'RE SO HOPE IN CASE THERE'S ANY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DIRECTION IS CLEAR FOR OUR STAFF.
IN ADDITION TO REFLECTING IT IN THE GUIDELINES WHERE WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY CALL IT OUT IN THE BUSINESS PRESERVATION STUFF, BUT, UM, BUT THAT'S IMPACTED MY AMENDMENTS JUST CHANGES THE WORDING A BIT, UM, TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE MEAN.
SO RIGHT NOW, ALLEY AND STREET, ALBION STREET VACATIONS AND ENCROACHMENT AGREEMENTS WERE ESTIMATED TO COME IN AT $800,000 IN REVENUE FOR FISCAL YEAR 21.
AND SO MY AMENDMENT REALLY NAILS DOWN THAT INFORMATION, UH, AND SAYS AND CHANGES THE LANGUAGE.
SO IT READS AS FOLLOWS, UM, ANY FUNDING FROM THESE CATEGORIES THAT EXCEEDS $800,000 OF ESTIMATED REVENUE AND THE OPERATIONAL COST OF ADMINISTER THESE TRANSACTIONS.
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RATHER I CHANGED IT FROM LANGUAGE BUDGETED BY COUNSEL FOR THE STAFF AND OPERATION.IT'S NOT JUST STAFFING OPERATION.
IT'S ALSO THE REVENUE ON THAT.
SO I JUST, I JUST NAMED WHAT THE AMOUNT WAS 800,000.
AND THEN IN THE NEXT VIET FOR THE RESOLVED, THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN FUTURE YEARS.
AND IN FUTURE YEARS, I JUST CHANGED THE LANGUAGE FROM FUNDS NEEDED FOR STAFFING AND OPERATION OF THE CRITICAL WORK OF THESE PROGRAMS, TO THE COSTS OF ADMINISTERING THESE TRANSACTIONS.
THEY'RE REALLY NOT AS MUCH AS TRANSACTIONS.
AND SO THAT, THAT CHANGE IS REALLY, AGAIN, JUST A LANGUAGE CHANGE RATHER THAN A SUBSTANCE, AS I SEE IT.
AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPICE STUFF, KATHY, I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING WHERE THAT IS.
UM, WAS IT POSTED ON THE MESSAGE BOARD OR NOT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, BUT KATIE DISTRIBUTED IT EARLIER AND I WOULD NEED SOME HELP FROM SOMEBODY TELLING ME WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
I THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION WE PASSED LAST TIME.
IT WAS FROM KATIE AT THREE 55.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IN THE FIRST EXAMPLE.
I FOUND IT HERE, UM, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED.
SO YOU HAD ORIGINALLY SAID, GIVE US THE MONEY FROM THE, FROM THIS FUND.
AND THEY SAID IT'S ALREADY BEEN PROGRAMMED, BUT IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S FUNDING THAT COMES IN ABOVE, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN PROGRAMMED, IT WOULD BE SWEPT AND PUT INTO THIS ACCOUNT.
AND THEN THE SECOND AMENDMENT WANT TO LEAVE IT? I DIDN'T WANT, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE IT VAGUE ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT AMOUNT WAS, ANYTHING ABOVE THE 800 YET THE SWEPT IS THAT THE 800? IS THAT THE RIGHT NUMBER DO USE? I THINK IT IS.
THAT'S THE CORRECT NUMBER MAYER.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS CMN DIRECTOR TO INCLUDE IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET.
THE FINDING FROM ALLEN STREET VACATIONS IN EXCESS AND THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THOSE PROGRAMS. WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF, OF THAT? WHERE, WHERE DO THOSE FUNDS OTHERWISE GO? YOU KNOW, GEORGE, WE'RE MAKING, WE'RE MAKING A BUDGET DECISION, NOT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE, WE ARE, UM, OF COURSE WE ALWAYS HAVE AN OPTION OF DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WHEN THE ACTUAL BUDGET HAPPENS RIGHT NOW.
THOSE ARE PROGRAMMED TO JUST GO TO THE GENERAL FUND.
AND I'M SUGGESTING THAT FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, WE ALLOCATE TO REGULAR FUNDING INSTEAD FOR THIS PURPOSE OF SUPPORTING OUR VULNERABLE BUSINESSES.
BUT MY LANGUAGE, THE LIGHT, MY AMENDMENTS, AREN'T MAKING ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE TO THAT.
IT'S JUST SIMPLY MAKING IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT SAID FUND STAFFING AND OPERATIONS.
I JUST, I CHANGED IT TO LANGUAGE.
THAT WAS THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THE TRANSACTIONS, WHICH IS THE SAME THING.
IT WAS JUST A LANGUAGE CHANGE.
HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH IS THAT AD? WHAT KIND OF DOLLARS GENERALLY THE COST OF IT? THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAM? NO, THE WHAT'S ANTICIPATED FROM THE FUNDING FROM HOLLY AND ST.
VACATIONS, UM, ABOVE AND ABOVE THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THAT IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, WE HAVE 800,000 ESTIMATED AND WE WORK WITH OUR, UM, OFFICER REAL ESTATE SERVICES ON THAT ESTIMATE.
SO I DON'T KNOW, UM, DIRECTOR GAIL'S ON THE LINE, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE TOO EARLY FOR US TO BE ESTIMATING WHAT WE'LL HAVE FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, BUT IN A TYPICAL YEAR, THOSE ENCROACHMENTS AND THE LAV PATIENTS SALES ARE IN THE 800,000 TO $1 MILLION RANGE I'M HERE.
UM, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HEAR ME DOWNSCALE, INTERIM OFFICER FOR
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THE OFFICE OF REAL ESTATE SERVICES.I MEAN, WE, WE TYPICALLY TRY AND PUT AN ESTIMATE IN FOR WHAT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THOSE, UH, ALLIE AND STREET VACATIONS AND THE GROSSMAN AGREEMENTS ARE GOING TO BE.
UM, AND SO EVERY YEAR IS AN ESTIMATE AND, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, 800,000 SEEMS ROUGHLY ALONG THE SAME LINES OF WHAT WE'RE ESTIMATING FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
SO THAT, THAT SEEMS PRETTY TYPICAL AND ALL THIS STUFF PUT IT IN THIS FUND, I GUESS I'M FINE DOING THIS, RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR FROM NOW POST PANDEMIC, WE MAY NOT HAVE A NEED FOR THIS FUND OR A NEED FOR THIS FUND IN THE SAME WAY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE TWO AMENDMENTS THAT KATHY'S OFFERING HEARING? NONE OF THOSE ARE INCLUDED.
LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON ITEMS 71 AND 72.
THERE'S STILL YOUR AMENDMENT TO 72 THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
CAN I, CAN I RAISE MY QUESTION? THIS IS, THIS IS IN YOUR DOCUMENT WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR MOTION SHEET TOO, AND IT'S GOT SEVERAL AMENDMENTS IN IT FOR 72, 74 AND 75.
SO IT SAYS I MOVED TO AMEND ITEM 72 TO ALLOW NO MORE THAN 1.5 MILLION TO BE USED FOR THE EMERGENCY RELIEF WITH A GRANT PROGRAMS CREATED BY ITEM 74 AND 75 AND THE CONSULTANT RELIEF FOR THE CHAPTER THREE 80.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT THE CITY MANAGER CAN DETERMINE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FINALLY, UM, NEEDED.
MY, THE CLARIFICATION THAT I, THAT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE HERE IS I READ THAT 1.5 MILLION, UH, BECAUSE THAT REFERS TO THE EMERGENCY RELIEF AS APPLYING, NOT JUST TO, AS APPLYING TO THE SAVES FUNDS, NOT JUST THE FUNDS THAT ARE, THAT WE JUST PUT IN 71.
AND THE REASON I READ IT THAT WAY IS BECAUSE IT SAYS FOR THE EMERGENCY RELIEF GRANT PROGRAMS. SO IS THAT WHAT YOU INTENDED? AND IF THAT'S WHAT YOU INTENDED, WE JUST HAVE TO GET CLEARER HERE.
IS THIS SOMETHING THAT DEBRA BROUGHT TO ME JUST BEFORE WE WALKED IN? OKAY, THIS IS WHERE THIS CAME FROM AND I'M NOT.
AND I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING FOR JUST THE AUTHORIZATION TO BE ABLE TO USE IT ON THOSE THINGS.
WE MAY HAVE ALREADY COVERED THAT WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE PUT INTO 72 ALREADY, BUT IF NOT, UH, DO YOU NEED A NUMBER DEBRA OR CAN THAT JUST SAY, UH, UH, 70, 70 ITEM, 70 FUNDING IN 72 CAN BE USED WHERE THE EMERGENCY RELIEF IN THE GRANT PROGRAMS CREATED BY ITEM 74 AND 75, YOU COULD DO THAT, BUT THEN THEY CAN USE IT ALL THE MONEY IN THERE.
I JUST PUT A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT.
SO, SO WHEN IT CAME TO ME, IT WAS A BLANK AND I PUT IN THAT AMOUNT AND I PUT IT IN TO SERVE AS KIND OF A GOVERNOR ON THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COULD BE SPENT ON THE EMERGENCY RELIEF, CAUSE YOU REALLY WANT IT TO BE SPENT ON THE LONGTERM STUFF.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WAS LEAVING AN OUT FOR THE MANAGER TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, WE HAVE TO SPEND MORE ON THE EMERGENCY COMPONENT OF THIS, WHICH I HATE TO SEE, I REALLY WANT TO INVEST IN LONGTERM.
SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
AND THE MAIN THAT HALF WAS INTENDED TO BE A GOVERNOR.
WELL, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MAYOR, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED A LIMIT.
I, I FRANKLY FEEL LIKE WE COULD VERY WELL NEED THE ENTIRE 5 MILLION IN BOTH FUNDS FOR EMERGENCY RELIEF.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO LIMIT THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THAT OFF FOR NOW.
I JUST WANT, I JUST THOUGHT WE NEEDED SOME CLARITY ON WHAT IT MEANT.
EXCUSE ME, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE $5 MILLION IS ALREADY THERE.
AND THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE $5 MILLION.
THE $5 MILLION IS FROM ITEM 70.
AND FROM YOUR PRIOR ITEM OR $6.5 MILLION FROM LAST COUNCIL MEETING TO MAKE THE $15 MILLION THAT GOES INTO 73, 74 AND 75.
THIS MONEY FROM 72 IS IN ADDITION TO THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.
TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER, THIS AMENDMENT ONLY SPEAKS TO THE 72 FIVE, NOT ALL OF THE SAME.
THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION THEN ON THAT IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE, AS DEBRA JUST SAID, IT DOESN'T SPEAK
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TO THE, THE 5 MILLION THAT'S SITTING IN 74 AND THE 5 MILLION THAT'S SITTING IN 75.IT ONLY SPEAKS TO THE WHATEVER DOLLAR AMOUNT WE CAME UP WITH FOR THIS, THIS ITEM.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? DEBRA? CORRECT.
FOR 72, THE NUMBER HE'S PUTTING IN THERE IS JUST IN ADDITION TO THE $5 MILLION IN 73, 74 AND 75.
WELL, I'M OKAY WITH THAT MAYOR.
I JUST WANTED IT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE I WASN'T UNDERSTANDING IT.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED A CAP ON THE AMOUNT THAT GOES TO EMERGENCY RELIEF.
AND THE REASON I, I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE DID IT WAS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT OUR IMMEDIATE NEED AND WE HAD TO DO THAT FIRST, WE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS.
SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT IN A CAP ON IT AT THIS POINT.
AND I, AND I HEAR THAT WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS LANGUAGE HERE, THAT THE PURPOSE OF SEVEN OF THE SAVES WAS NOT TO TIDE PEOPLE OVER FOR FOUR MONTHS.
IT WAS TO ENSURE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ONE IN 74 AND 75, THERE'S THIS ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT IN 72 THAT, UM, UH, DEBRA ASKED THAT WE PASS, I MOVED TO A MAN ITEM 72 TO ALLOW MORE THAN NO MORE THAN 1,000,005 TO BE USED FOR THE EMERGENCY RELIEF FOR GRANT PROGRAMS CREATED BY ITEM 74 AND 75.
AND THE CONSULTANT RELIEF FOR THE CHAPTER THREE 80 BEING DEVELOPED BY STAFF AT CITY MANAGER, DETERMINES ADDITIONAL FUNDS ARE REQUIRED TO ACCOMPLISH STATE OF PURPOSE DIRECTOR TO PLACE NECESSARY AND SPRINTS ON A COUNCIL AGENDA FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT BEING INCLUDED.
WELL, I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
SO I, THEM USE CITING STAFF USE THE MONEY IN 72 PURPOSES ALLOWED IN 74 AND 75.
SO WHAT WOULD THEY DO WITH THE EXTRA MONEY? IF, IF WE'VE GOT THIS CAPITAL 1.5, CAUSE ISN'T THIS, EVERYTHING THEY'D SPEND THE MONEY ON ANYWAY.
NO, CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS THE EMERGENCY RELIEF IN THE CONSULTANT RELIEF.
MY HOPE IS THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF 74 AND 75 IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BUY THE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY FOR THOSE BODIES, THOSE ENTITIES.
SO THIS IS, SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.
CAUSE WE WE'VE LEARNED BEFORE THAT SOMETIMES WE GO OUT OF THESE THINGS AND WE'RE NOT CLEAR.
SO 1.5 OF THE 2.3, BERNIE, THE TENDON IS FUN IS ALL THAT, THAT'S THE CAP THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE PURPOSES, UM, HIDING PEOPLE OVER.
SO THEY STAY ALIVE LONG ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSALS FOR LONGTERM SUSTAINABLE.
AND, UM, AND IF THEY SEND A MANAGER NEEDS MORE THAN THAT, THEY ONLY HAVE UP TO 2.3 SO FAR, BUT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT ARE ADDED TO THAT.
IS THAT I WANT TO CHECK WITH STAFF, IS THAT CLEAR FOR STAFF ON WHAT THAT MEANS? SO MANAGERS THAT CLARENCE
AND IF WE FIND THERE'S OTHER MONEY THAT'S NEEDED, THAT WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH THAT INSTRUMENTS TO USE THOSE OTHER MONEY, CORRECT.
OR YOU COULD USE FUNDS IN 74, 75, AND THIS IS JUST THE EMERGENCY MONEY TO TIDE PEOPLE OVER SO THEY CAN SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATION FOR WHAT WE REALLY HOPE WILL BE THE INVESTMENT, WHICH WILL BE IN LONGTERM.
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT AMENDMENT BEING INCLUDED? NONE OF THAT'S INCLUDED.
WE READY TO VOTE ON 71 AND 72, THAT WAS IN FAVOR OF 71 72.
THOSE OPPOSED THOSE PASSED UNANIMOUSLY, I GUESS 73.
[73. Approve a resolution to establish program guidelines for the Austin Childcare Provider Relief Grant, a $5,000,000 program to help support vulnerable Austin-based childcare providers impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic.]
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THE NATASHA CONCENT MATTER.THAT'S WHY WE'RE HOPPER MADISON.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU COUNTED BY BOTH.
I FIGURED SOMEBODY WOULD TAKE NOTES TO THE FACT THAT I WAS NOT VISIBLE.
I'M DOING BEDTIME ROUTINE, BUT UM, OKAY.
71 TO 72 PATHS THAT GETS US TO 73, UH, ON 73.
UH, THIS IS THE GUIDELINES FROM STAFF FOR CHILDCARE.
UH, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM AND THEN WE'LL GET TO AMENDMENTS.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTER MAKES THE MOTIONS OR SECOND CAUSE REMEMBER ELLIS SECONDS, THE MOTION, UH, DISCUSSION OR AMENDMENTS TO ITEM 73 COUNCIL
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MEMBER ELLIS.I DID HAVE AN AMENDMENT AND LET ME PULL IT UP.
CAUSE THERE'S A FEW DOCUMENTS OPEN HERE.
UM, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN WORK SESSION ABOUT 4.0 THE EQUITY CONSIDERATION AND THE ADJUSTED LANGUAGE IS, UM, LESS ABOUT OWNERSHIP AND INCORPORATES GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION SO THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT UNDERSERVED POPULATIONS DON'T LOSE THEIR CHILDCARE SITUATIONS.
AND SO THE AMENDED LANGUAGE INCLUDES SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS, UM, AS, AS THE VERBIAGE THAT'S USED THERE AND THEN ON PAGE THREE IN THE AWARD RUBRIC AND I'M SUBSTITUTED THE DIRECTION FOR THE EQUITY CONSIDERATION AS FOLLOWS, LOCATED IN A LOWER INCOME ZIP CODE OR SERVE STUDENTS THAT RESIDE IN LOWER INCOMES OF CODES.
SO I THOUGHT THAT LANGUAGE WAS A LITTLE SOFTER AND UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PARTICULAR LINE ITEM WAS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO MORE PEOPLE AND THESE CHANGES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE, WITH THE PREFERENCE OF, UH, OF LEGAL.
WE WORKED WITH LEGAL ON THIS LANGUAGE.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO THIS AMENDMENT BEING INCLUDED? YES.
I JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SINCE WE HAD EXPERIENCE AT THE OTHER CHILDCARE PROGRAM, IF THERE WERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS AMENDMENT THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT OR ACCEPTED IT, COUNCIL MEMBER, NO CONCERNS.
WE DID FRAME IT INITIALLY IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT EQUITY FROM THE LENS OF OWNERSHIP AND LEADERSHIP IN THE FACILITY, BUT WE CERTAINLY GET THE INCENTIVE.
ANY OBJECTION TO BEING INCLUDED THAT ANY FURTHER ITEM 73? UM, I WANTED TO ASK STAFF, UM, WE HADN'T PREVIOUSLY HAD A TALK ABOUT, UM, AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS AND NEED FOR SUPPORT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AND, UM, THE COMMUNICATION TODAY.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY THOUGHTS OR IDEAS OR IF THERE WAS ANY DIRECTION WE SHOULD PROVIDE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY TO EXPLORE THAT.
UM, I KNOW THAT NEED IS GREAT FOR THE UNDER FIVE.
UM, BUT I BET I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE ALREADY EXPLORED THAT AND LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE, WE HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS ON THAT.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD HESITATE TO MAKE A CHANGE AT THIS POINT WITHOUT ALLOWING US THE TIME TO TALK TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
I KNOW THAT AS WE DEVELOP THE CHILDCARE PROVIDER, UM, GUIDELINES, THERE WAS DEFINITELY A DESIRE FROM OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO FOCUS ON THE, ON THE EARLIER YEARS OF CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE, I WOULD ADD THAT OUR CURRENT GUIDELINES DO ALLOW FOR CHILDCARE FACILITIES THAT PROVIDE, UH, PROVIDE SERVICES TO CHILDREN AGES ZERO TO FIVE, BUT ALSO ALLOW FOR AFTERSCHOOL CARE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT AT THEIR CENTERS, THIS CONCEPT, UH, WELL, WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD A CHANCE TO VET THROUGH THIS CONCEPT, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND WHAT THAT POPULATION LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT IS DUE TO THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL, UM, DISABILITIES THAT COULD RECEIVE AS WELL.
SORRY, IS THERE A WAY TO ALLOW YOU TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHILDCARE PROGRAM, BUT ASSESS IF YOU NEED TO, TO CARVE OUT A PIECE OF THE MONEY FOR THAT.
UM, AND, AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ASSESS THAT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER OF WHETHER WE, WHETHER WE SHOULD BE OR NOT.
IT'S JUST, IT WASN'T ON THE RADAR OF WHAT HAD BEEN RAISED, BUT NOW THAT I HEAR ABOUT IT, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT, THAT TYPE OF CHILDCARE AS WELL.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A MECHANISM FOR DOING THAT.
OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE A WAY OF WRITING THE ROLE RIGHT NOW.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND I, AND I CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN TO INSINUATE THAT AFTERSCHOOL CHILDCARE IS NOT A NECESSITY.
IT DOES ABSOLUTELY NEEDED AS WELL.
UH, WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO VET IT FOR, I DO THINK IF THERE A FIT AS COUNCIL'S INTENTION OF GOING TO THAT DIRECTION, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE AN IDEA OF THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME POINTS.
MY ETM IS P ON SOME INFORMATION WE GOT FROM HOTEL TODAY REGARDING THIS, THIS IDEA, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH, OUR PARTNERS WITH PUBLIC HEALTH FIGURED OUT THAT PROVIDERS SERVING CHILD CHILDREN, AGES BIRTH TO FIVE ARE MOST AT RISK.
AND THAT'S WHY THEY RECOMMENDED FOCUSING ON THIS AGE GROUP, UM, CHILDCARE DESSERTS EXISTED PRE-CODE FOR HIGH QUALITY CHILDCARE SERVING BIRTH TO FIVE.
UM, AND THE, THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS ARE MORE OF A LARGER ADMINISTRATIVE STRUCTURE OR MULTIPLE SITES.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLEX.
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WE WERE LOOKING AT PROVIDING RELIEF TO THEM AS WELL.SO JUST WANTED TO ADD THOSE THOUGHTS TO THE DISCUSSION.
SO IT MAY NOT BE RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THAT WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MAY EXPLORE WHETHER WE NEED TO TAKE STEPS.
OBVIOUSLY I THINK THE NEED FOR THE STARE AT A FIVE IS ENORMOUS IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT I DID WANT TO ELEVATE THAT NEED BECAUSE I HADN'T REALLY HEARD IT BEFORE, PROBABLY IN PART BECAUSE THE KIDS HAVEN'T BEEN IN SCHOOL UNTIL RECENTLY, UM, BACK IN SCHOOL.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO GO BACK TO, UM, WAS WITH THE COMMERCIAL TENANTS PIECE.
UM, AND I THINK I'M NOT SURE I GOT A LOT OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF PAPER HERE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WAS MODIFIED.
I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T, THAT YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY YOU NEEDED TO ADAPT THAT FOR THE CHILDCARE CENTERS WHO WERE SEEING ARE WHEN THEY'RE NEGOTIATING RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GETTING INCREASED RATES.
I'M NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT POSITION AND THAT THIS WOULD JIVE WELL WITH THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE COMING FROM 72 TO PROVIDE THAT TECHNICAL SUPPORT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL YOU NEED HERE TO BE ABLE TO ADJUST THAT SECTION 3.4, UM, APPROPRIATELY FOR THOSE THINGS.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE PERFECT LANGUAGE FOR IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN JUST PROVIDE DIRECTION TO BE FLEXIBLE WITH 3.4, AS YOU CONFRONT THE REALITIES IN WORKING ON THAT, UM, WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR IS ADVICE.
UM, THAT'S THE PART WHERE WE'RE TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE PROOF THAT THEY TRY TO ENTER INTO A MORE FAVORABLE RENT SITUATION.
IDEALLY, THEY WOULD GET THAT, BUT I JUST, I'M JUST SKEPTICAL ABOUT THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT WE HAD NONPROFITS THAT WERE HAVING TROUBLE GIVING US SPORT INFORMATION, ET CETERA, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BEING A BARRIER, THE TEAM TO STEP IN AND HELP ME WITH ANY OF THOSE, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW CAN WE WORK WITH THE FACILITIES? AND, UM, WE'RE DOCUMENTING THAT, UM, DAVID GRAINS EAT, YOU CAN ADD TO THAT, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
AND I REMEMBER I CALLED SIR, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
UM, IN THE PAST WITH IT FOR THE FIRST PROGRAM IS WE WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH OUR THIRD PARTY PROVIDER UNITED WAY TO OFFER DIFFERENT TYPES OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.
AND SO WE WOULD LOOK AT DOING A SIMILAR THING, UH, AS WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS PARTNERING WITH OUR THIRD PARTY TO, UH, WORK WITH THE CHILDCARE PROVIDERS, UH, IN HELPING THEM, UH, ASK AND NEGOTIATE FOR THAT LEASE, BUT ALSO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT A LETTER OR SOME FORM OF DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THAT THEY MADE THE ATTEMPT.
SO I GUESS WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST PROVIDE THE DIRECTION THAT YOU GUYS WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE THAT AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE FOR THE CHILDCARE PROVIDERS.
AND IF IN THE COURSE OF DOING THAT, YOU COME ACROSS OBSTACLES AND YOU HAVE TO ADJUST THAT, THAT YOU ADJUST IT APPROPRIATELY AND YOU USE THE MONEY FROM 72 TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE ASSISTANCE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE TO BE MORE FORMAL THAN THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, WAIT, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS TO BE ABLE TO GET MOVING ON THAT, WHICH MAY BE A VERY ANTISOCIAL, UM, PROBLEMS THAT WORK DO YOU THINK, FIND THAT DIRECTION.
UM, AND THEN THE OTHER AREA, UM, WAS WITH RESPECT TO THE WORKERS' RIGHTS.
I THINK THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CASAR HAD AN AMENDMENT, UM, RELATED TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN HE'S GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION, BUT AGAIN, THERE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE LABOR PEACE PROVISIONS OR UNIONS WITHIN THE CHILDCARE SECTOR.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY GO TO WRITE THE GUIDELINES THAT YOU'RE, YOU HAVE THAT PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BARRIER FOR APPLYING OR, UM, CREATE A LOT OF ANXIETY ABOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
DON'T REMEMBER, I BELIEVE THE COUNCIL MEMBER KOSSAR'S AMENDMENT WAS INCORPORATED IN THE MAYOR'S AMENDED, UM, UM, UH, GUIDELINES THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, OH, I CAN CONFIRM THAT FOR 74 AND 75, IT WAS, I DON'T THINK IT WASN'T 73 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO 1%.
AND IF, AND IF IT MAKES SENSE TO JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THE LABOR PIECE COMPONENT VERY CLEARLY JUST TOXIC FOR IN THE CITIES AND MARKETS JUST VENT, THAT IS
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ACTUALLY SERVICE.SO DO YOU THINK WE COULD JUST DELETE 4.1 OR JUST HAVE IT BE APPLICABLE? APPLICANT WILL ADHERE TO WORKER SAFETY PROTECTIONS AS APPLICABLE TO THE FACILITY AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS AND DELETING THOUGH, WILL THEY ADHERE TO LABOR PEACE PROVISIONS AND RIGHT.
I DON'T THINK NECESSARILY THE CHILDCARE ONE.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD AMEND THIS TO SAY, APPLICANT WILL ADHERE TO WORK OR SAFETY PROTECTIONS AS APPLICABLE TO THE FACILITY AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS.
I THINK THERE MIGHT'VE BEEN A SENTENCE AFTER THAT.
I JUST WAS USING THE ORIGINAL PARAGRAPH.
ONE SECOND, FIND A BREACH OF THE PROGRAM GUIDELINES.
IF A PROGRAM PARTICIPANT IS FOUND TO HAVE VIOLATED WORKERS' RIGHTS OR A PERIOD ONE YEAR FOR CURE, WE NEED, SOMEONE'S MAKING NOISE.
IF A PROGRAM IS FOUND TO BE A VIOLATED WORKERS' RIGHTS PERIOD, WHEN YOU'RE FOR GRANTED WORK, EITHER BECAUSE OF A SUBSTANTIATED FINDING IS DETERMINED BY THE CITY AND IS NOT CURED BY THE PARTICIPANT ABOUT UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES, WORKER SAFETY VIOLATIONS, VIOLATIONS OF ANY DISCRIMINATION, LAWS, OR VIOLATION OF OTHER APPLICABLE WORKERS' RIGHTS LAWS.
IF THE CITY DETERMINES THAT IT IS A MARKET PARTICIPANT, I THINK WE WOULD HAVE, WE WOULD START, WE WOULD STRIKE THAT, THAT SECTION ON THE CHILD KILLER, STARTING WITH IF THE CITY AND SERVICES IN THAT MARKET.
SO IT WOULD JUST BE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, RIGHT.
AND THE SECOND PARAGRAPH WOULD APPLY TO THE OTHER ITEMS, BUT NOT THE CHILDCARE.
SO ONLY THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH WOULD BE GOING INTO 73.
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT GOING IN HEARING NONE THAT'S INCLUDED.
ANYTHING OUT CHANGES ON 73? ALRIGHT.
UM, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY AGAIN THAT IF THEY HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, EACH LOCATION CAN APPLY FOR THE 60,000, WHICH IS WHAT WE CLARIFIED, UM, AT WORK SESSION.
SO I'M UNDERSTANDING AND I MAKE SURE I'M READING THE RIGHT THING.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS AMENDMENT ITEM THREE 73, FOUR AND FIVE, IT'S TWO PARAGRAPHS.
AND WE STRUCK THE FIRST PARAGRAPH FOR CHILDCARE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST DID? WE STRUCK THE SECOND PARAGRAPH FOR CHILDCARE.
I DON'T THINK IT FRANKLY APPLIES.
I DON'T THINK WE START THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
THAT'S WHERE I GOT BACKWARDS CLARIFICATION ON THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.
UM, IT SAYS ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAWS, BUT WE ARE ALSO REFERRING TO OUR CITY ORDINANCES.
IT'S LOCAL STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS.
SO AS LONG AS LONG AS THE LAW THINKS THAT'S ENFORCEABLE IN THAT WAY, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THE INTENSE, MORE MATURE CITY NONDISCRIMINATION ORDINANCE IS SPECIFICALLY IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
I THINK THAT WAS EVERY ONCE IN 10.
LET'S TAKE A, VOTE THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEMS THREE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
[74. Approve a resolution to establish program guidelines for the Austin Live Music Venue Preservation Fund, a $5,000,000 program to help support Austin-based live music venues impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic.]
WITH RESPECT TO NUMBER 74.UH, I MOVE, UH, UH, ADOPTION OF THE CHANGES IN THE HANDOUT, UH, AS, UH, AMENDMENTS TO THE, UH, UH, GUIDELINES, UM, PROPOSED BY THE CITY.
IS THERE A SECOND TO THEM? UH, UH, SECONDS.
THANK YOU FOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS.
UM, THERE ARE TWO OTHER, UH, ADDITIONS THAT I WOULD MAKE TO THIS AS REQUESTED BY, UM, UH, CITY, UH, ATTORNEY.
UH, THEY GO BACK TO THE, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT WE ENDED UP EARLIER.
ONE OF WHICH WE PUT INTO 72 ON SECTION 3.52, WHICH IS THE EMERGENCY WORK BEING DONE.
THE LANGUAGE THE STAFF ATTORNEYS ASKED US TO ADD AT THE END ARE 3.5.
TWO IS THIS IS AN EMERGENCY RELIEF FUNCTION, UH, TO PROVIDE FUNDING AND LEGAL AND FINANCIAL EXPERTISE TO BUSINESSES THAT NEED SHORT TERM EMERGENCY RELIEF TO ENABLE THE BUSINESSES TO STAY IN BUSINESS WHILE APPLYING FOR LONGER TERM RELIEF FUNDS, ANY OBJECTION TO THAT BEING INCLUDED IT'S INCLUDED.
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THE OTHER ONE THAT THEY WANTED US TO PUT IN RELATED TO THREE 80 PROGRAMS, SO THAT THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE FOR THAT IF THEY DEVELOP THAT.SO IT WOULD HAVE A SECTION 9.0 AND THAT SECTION 9.0 WOULD BE ENTITLED CHAPTER THREE 80, AND THAT WOULD READ ANY CHAPTER THREE 80 PROGRAMS BEING CREATED, UH, AND TO BE USED WITH THIS FUND SHALL INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR LEGAL AND FINANCIAL EXPERTISE FOR BUSINESSES WHO ARE SEEKING RELIEF THROUGH THE PROGRAMS TO ASSIST IN SUCH MATTERS AS EXTENSION OR EXTENSION OF RENTAL RELIEF AND OTHER RELIEF THAT ENABLES THE BUSINESSES TO SURVIVE LONGTERM.
ANY OBJECTION TO THAT, BEING INCLUDED, AIRING NON BEST INCLUDED DISCUSSION, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ALTAR.
SO I THINK IT'S PAGE FOUR OF ITEM 74, WHICH IS LIVE MUSIC.
UM, I HAD SOME QUESTION ABOUT 3.6 AS YOU AMENDED IT, MAYOR THE FINAL APPLICATION AND AWARDING OF GRANTS.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOME MORE CLARITY ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE, LIKE, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHO'S ELIGIBLE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPE OF AID WE WANT TO PROVIDE.
UM, I THINK IDEALLY WE WANT TO LIKE A, CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE APPROACH TO THIS TO MAKE YOU SUCCEED.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW DOABLE THAT IS, BUT I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE GOING, BUT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE CHOICES AMONG DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.
UM, GIVEN THAT WE'RE NOT DOING ANY PART OF IT BY LOTTERY THERE'S NO.
UM, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A POINT SYSTEM IN HERE.
UM, AND WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE'S SUBJECTIVITY, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME KIND OF GUIDANCE ON HOW TO MAKE THE CHOICES.
AND MAYBE THAT'S THE PIECE THAT'S COMING BACK TO US AGAIN, ONCE THEY DIVE DEEPER INTO THIS IN TWO WEEKS, BUT I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO PROVIDE MORE CLARITY.
I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET BECAUSE THAT WASN'T A FUNCTION OF HOW THE THING WAS ORIGINALLY SET UP.
SO THIS IS A PIECE THAT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US OR WE NEED TO DEVELOP FURTHER.
IT'S NOT A PIECE THAT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO DECIDE TO GET THE PROGRAMS INITIATED BECAUSE THIS ELEMENT OF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN YET, BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, RATHER THAN US TRYING TO CRAFT THAT ON THE DIETS NOW, UM, THE INTENT WAS FOR STAFF TO, TO HELP US COME UP WITH HOW THAT MIGHT BE DONE AND FOR US TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.
UM, MS.
AND I CERTAINLY AGREE THAT WE DO NEED, UM, AS MUCH CLARITY AS POSSIBLE AND A CONVERSATION I'VE HAD.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THOSE GUIDELINES AND HAVE THAT CLARITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROCESS IS ALSO CLEARLY OUTLINED AS TO WHO WILL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
AND IDEALLY THAT WOULD NOT BE STAFF IN THAT POSITION OF MAKING THOSE CALLS.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS, BUT IF COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN WANTED TO COME IN ON THIS POINT, I CAN WAIT, IS IT OFFICE THIS POINT? OKAY.
SO ON THIS POINT THEN, UM, SO I'M, UH, I'M NOT CLEAR THEN ON, UM, SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT COMING BACK TO US WITH, UH, THAT AWARD PROCESS BEFORE YOU IMPLEMENTED? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I WANT, I NEED SOME MORE CLARITY ON THAT.
I DIDN'T QUITE GET CLARITY ON THAT.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COUNCILS ASK US TO COME BACK WITH ENHANCED GUIDELINES, UM, THAT WILL OUTLINE THAT, THAT PROCESS.
AND SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO WRITE IT IN HERE FOR ALL OF THE SAME PAGE, BUT YOU'LL BE COMING BACK TO US TO OUTLINE THE AWARD PROCESS AND THE CRITERIA FOR AWARDING THE DOLLARS.
IS THAT RIGHT? DID I GET IT RIGHT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
AND THE TIMELINE FOR YOU COMING BACK I'M SURE WILL JUST BE, AS SOON AS YOU CAN DEVELOP IT.
IS THAT THE THINKING, DO YOU THINK HE COULD DO IT BY OCTOBER 29TH OR MAYBE THAT'S NOT A FAIR QUESTION.
I TRUSTED PEOPLE DO IT AS SOON AS YOU CAN.
MY PREFERENCE, AS LONG AS, OKAY.
I HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I CAN DEFER TO, UH, TO COUNCIL MEMBER ALTERNATIVE, THEN YOU'D COME BACK.
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TO JUST POINT OUT ATTENTION, WHICH I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, I DON'T KNOW, WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE VENUES, BUT YOU KNOW, THE 3.52 THAT SAYS, BASICALLY THOSE ARE IN THE WORST SHAPE, GET TO COME ASK FOR AID IMMEDIATELY.BUT THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PART THAT BASICALLY SAYS WE WANT TO INVEST SO THAT THEY CAN STAY FOR THE LONG TERM.
I'M NOT SURE THE ONES WHO CAN STAY FOR THE LONGTERM.
WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE IN THE WORST SHAPE RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO I JUST THINK THAT'S A CONTRADICTION BUILT IN HERE.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION.
THAT'S GOING TO BE, IF SOMEBODY ELSE HAS AN IDEA TO RESOLVE THAT TONIGHT, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THAT'S A TENSION IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, IT MAY JUST BE INHERENT IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND THEN MAYOR, I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAD STRUCK ON PAGE EIGHT, UM, MAKING, UM, ELIGIBLE LOSS, SALES DONATIONS, OR SPONSORSHIPS FOR THE GRANT FUNDS.
SO THEY WERE ORIGINALLY NOT ALLOWED.
UM, AND THEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY WAS NOT ALLOWED TO PAY FOR LITIGATION LEGAL EXPENSES AND ACTIONS BY OR AGAINST THE ORGANIZATION.
UM, I JUST LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THOSE WERE STRUCK AS INELIGIBLE EXPENSES.
SO AS TO GIVE, CAUSE I, I DIDN'T WANT TO PREJUDGE WHAT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
SO IT WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE AN ARBITRARY DISQUALIFICATION.
I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO RULE THAT OUT.
I WANTED THE PROGRAM TO BE ABLE TO, TO CONSIDER THINGS THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY TO ENSURE LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY SORT OF FLEXIBILITY.
BUT IF, IF SOMEBODY HAS LIKE LEGAL ACTION FOR DOING SOMETHING HORRIBLE AGAINST THEM, I DON'T WANT OUR CITY GRANT MONEY TO GO TO PAY FOR THAT LITIGATION FUNDING.
AND HOPEFULLY ANY AWARD WOULDN'T HAVE THAT, BUT IF THEIR REORGANIZATION REQUIRED THEM TO FILE BANKRUPTCY IN ORDER TO GET INTO REORGANIZATION AND IT MIGHT BE THE THING THAT THEY NEED TO DO, THEY DON'T WANT TO PREJUDGE IT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION YOU'RE ASKING.
AND AGAIN, THE ENHANCED RULE IS IF THERE'S A WAY TO, TO PARSE THAT BETTER, UH, I WOULD MORE THAN AMENABLE TO THAT.
I GUESS I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH LIKE THOSE BEING CAUGHT AS BEING SAYING THAT THOSE SHOULD BE WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWABLE EXPENSES I'M OKAY TO PUT IN THAT FOR NOW COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN PAID OR WILL BE PAID BY OTHER GRANTS ARE INELIGIBLE.
AND THEN TO ASK YOU IF THERE'S OTHER ENHANCED GUIDELINES THAT ARISE, BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE JUST SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING, UM, CITY FUNDING ON.
AND IT'S VERY HARD TO ANTICIPATE WITH THOSE ARE, UM, HELPING SOMEONE THROUGH BANKRUPTCY.
I DIDN'T READ, I DIDN'T READ THAT TO BE ELIMINATED, BUT I COULD SEE HOW SOMEONE WOULD.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR RENT OR PAYING FOR PEOPLE.
WE CAN'T SAY, OH, YOU WOULD HAVE HAD THIS REVENUE AND JUST GIVE THEM THAT MONEY.
UM, WE DENIED THE NONPROFITS THAT ABILITY, AND I JUST, I DON'T SEE DOING THAT.
UM, BUT I'M COMFORTABLE IF WE CAN HAVE THAT IN THE ENHANCED GUIDELINES SINCE YOU WON'T ACTUALLY BE PAYING IT OUT, UM, KIND OF RIGHT AWAY.
DOES THAT WORK, MS.
I'M GONNA LOOK TO LAW TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT ANY CONCERNS.
I MEAN, CAUSE I HAVE TO BE LEGAL FOR US TO SPEND THE MONEY ON IT.
ANYWAY, WE CAN'T, I MEAN, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO.
UM, AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO ASK MS. PRESENTER, IF THERE WERE OTHER CONCERNS THAT YOU HAD OVER THIS KIND OF DRAFT THAT WE OUGHT TO GET THE CLARITY ON AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M NOT REALLY, YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO THE SAME THEME OF ME FROM ME AS AS MUCH CLARITY AS WE CAN GET AS, AS HELPFUL.
UM, AND AS MUCH GRACE AS WE CAN GET AND THE TIMING IN PARTICULAR TO BRING BACK THE MORE ENHANCED GUIDELINES BACK WHERE WE REALLY ARE GOING TO NEED, THIS IS WE'RE STARTING.
UM, THIS PROGRAM IS A NEW WAY TO APPROACH THINGS AND THAT'S NOT A BAD THING, BUT IT DOES MEAN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GIVE IT SOME THOUGHT.
UM, ON THE, UM, UH, I GUESS JUST THE FIRST PAGE, THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM, I WOULD WORD THAT DIFFERENTLY.
I WOULD SAY THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO ENSURE THE
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IMMEDIATE SURVIVABILITY AND THE LONG TERM SURVIVABILITY.I JUST, THE PHRASE THAT SAYS IT IS NOT INTENDED TO NARROWLY PROVIDE JUST AS IT, UM, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT CLEAR TO ME THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS BOTH THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THIS TO BE.
SO IT JUST, IT MAY HAVE BEEN INTENDED THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BOTH THINGS, BUT IT JUST, UM, IT MADE IT, IT READ TO ME LIKE WE WERE ONLY DOING LONGTERM SURVIVABILITY AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS YOUR INTENT.
SO I WOULD AMEND IT TO SAY THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO ENSURE THE IMMEDIATE SURVIVABILITY AND THE LONG TERM SURVIVABILITY.
AND THEN I WOULD STRIKE, UH, IS NOT INTENDED TO MERELY PROVIDE FOR THE SHORT TERM ABILITY TO SURVIVE THE PANDEMIC.
I THINK THAT IN TELL ME HOW TO BETTER WORD THIS.
WHEN WE, WHEN WE PASSED THE RESOLUTION THREE WEEKS AGO, WE WERE FOCUSING ON WE FAST THAT WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE.
WELL, THIS IS JUST AS PROVIDED.
THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO HELPING REASONABLY ENSURE THAT THE BUSINESS WON'T FAIL FOR SUFFICIENT PERIOD OF TIME TO HELP THEM TO RECOVERY.
I JUST GO WITH READING IT THAT WAY AND IT JUST HELPED ME.
SO IF WE GIVE MONEY TO SOMEBODY AND HELP THEM MAKE IT THE NEXT FOUR MONTHS, BUT THEY CLOSE IN EIGHT MONTHS OR 12 MONTHS, WE WILL HAVE FAILED.
AND THE GOAL IS NOT TO INVEST TO HAIR.
IT IS PART OF SOMETHING THAT IS ENSURES LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
SO OBVIOUSLY TO GET LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO SURVIVE SHORT TERM, BUT, BUT EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS HELP SHORT TERM, ISN'T GOING TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR THIS FUNDING IF THEY AREN'T ABLE TO USE THIS FUNDING IN ORDER TO DRIVE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
SO WHY DON'T INSTEAD OF MERELY PROVIDE, WHY DON'T WE SAY ONLY BECAUSE I WAS READING IT SUPPOSED TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH PURPOSES, RIGHT? THAT'S FINE.
AND THIS IS A LONGER CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN HAVE WHEN THIS COMES BACK TO US.
BUT, UM, WELL ANYWAY, I, THE LONGTERM SURVIVABILITY, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH LONGTERM SURVIVABILITY, SOME OF WHICH IS BEING ABLE TO STAY IN YOUR LOCATION.
UM, AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON PER ENTITY IS GONNA ALLOW THEM TO DO THAT.
BUT ANYWAY, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION I HAD WAS, UM, SO, SO WE'RE MAKING THAT CHANGE THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT A COUPLE OF THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA.
SO THIS ONE THAT SAYS THERE'S A VERY LOW LIKELIHOOD OF A SIMILAR BUSINESS REOPENING IN THE SAME OR NEARBY LOCATION.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THAT'S THERE.
I THINK IN THAT SENSE, REMEMBER POOL HAD RAISED BEFORE THAT'S THE LANGUAGE TAKEN OUT OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WE PASSED.
IT WAS THE FIRST CRITERIA PRIOR TO THE PRIORITY SUPPORT.
THE GOAL IS THE RESOLUTION FOCUSED ON A PARTICULAR INDUSTRY HAS BEEN, DOES THE BEST MEET THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.
NUMBER ONE, THE BUSINESS PHASES OF SUBSTANTIAL LIKELIHOOD OF CLOSING PERMANENTLY ABSENT ASSISTANCE.
AND THERE'S A VERY LOW LIKELIHOOD OF A SIMILAR BUSINESS REOPENING IN THE SAME LOCATION DUE TO INCREASED SPRINTS OR OTHER MARKET FACTORS.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE PULLED IT IN.
IT'S JUST NOW I WOULD LIKE TO STRIKE IT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT DOES FOR US HERE.
SO, UM, SO A LOW, A VERY LOW LIKELIHOOD OF A SIMILAR BUSINESS REOPENING.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS, HOW THIS IS.
THIS IS THOSE INDUSTRIES AND BUSINESSES THAT IF WE LOSE THEM, WE'VE LOST THE INDUSTRY.
UH, SO IF IT'S A BUSINESS OF AN INDUSTRY OR A TOUCH, EVEN IF IT WENT, YOU NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP SUSTAIN BUSINESSES, UH, BRINGING IN THREE 80 AGREEMENTS, BRINGING IN, UH, THE ABILITY TO RUN MUSIC LATER AT NIGHT, MAYBE TO RELAX SOME SOUND ORDINANCES, UH, TO HELP PEOPLE GET OUTSIDE MORE, TO CHANGE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE SAVES RESOLUTION, UH, DIFFERENT FROM ALL OF THOSE IS INTENDED TO TRY TO PRESERVE INDUSTRIES THAT IF WE LOSE THEM, THEY MAY BE LOST FOREVER.
SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING THAT THE WAY I'M READING THIS IS IT FOR LIVE MUSIC VENUES.
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MUSIC VENUE AND I'M, AND, AND I'M, I'M HAVING DIFFICULTIES THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT BE FAILING, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THESE FUNDS.IF, IF ANOTHER LIVE MUSIC COULD OPEN UP, UH, NEARBY ME, IT'S TRUE.
BUT IF YOU'RE A LIVE MUSIC FAN, YOU LIKE AT NINTH AND RED RIVER OR IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE THAT KIND OF PLAY MUSIC LIKE VICTORY GRILL A MUSIC VENUE, LIKE COTTONELLE CLUB ARE IN PLACES THAT I CAN'T COMPETE ECONOMICALLY IN THOSE LOCATIONS.
UH, AND IF WE LOSE THEM, WE AE, AM I GOING TO BE REPLACED? UH, THERE'S NOT A DIFFERENT DIFFERENCE.
I'M GOING TO COME IN SIX MONTHS OR EIGHT MONTHS.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS INTENDED TO, TO, TO BE THE SAVES RESERVATION.
I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT ACCOMPLISHES THAT BECAUSE, UM, OF THE TERM SIMILAR BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK IF THAT'S THE INTENT, THEN, THEN I CAN HEAR, I HEAR YOUR INTENT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, LOSING A CONTINENTAL CLUB TO A BRAND NEW MUSIC VENUE THAT'S IS NOT A COMPARABLE IS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU WOULD THEN BE NEEDED.
IT DEPENDS ON HOW SICK, OF COURSE.
AND IF, IF YOU'RE HEARING IT THE WAY THE MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S FINE.
BUT IF YOU, I MEAN, IF I JUST READ THE LANGUAGE OF IT, I COULD, I COULD SAY THAT THE CONTINENTAL CLUB CLOSES AND NEXT DOOR THERE'S A BAR THAT OPENS THAT HAS, HAS MUSIC THAT COMES IN, YOU KNOW, ONCE A WEEK AND THAT'S A SIMILAR BUSINESS.
SO THEREFORE THE CONTINENTAL CLUB IS ELIGIBLE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT, BUT NO, AND, AND WE'VE DEFINED MUSIC FAN YOU TO REQUIRE MORE THAN MUSIC ONCE A WEEK.
UH, SO, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THAT EXAMPLE AND IT'S NOT ALLOWED, BUT WHEN YOU'RE THIS DO SOME CLARITY.
SO CAN I JUST ASK WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US THAT WE LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, AT LEAST GIVE US SOME TIME TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, CAUSE I HEAR YOUR INTENT.
I JUST THINK THE WAY IT'S THE WAY IT READS DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT YEAH.
A BETTER WAY TO REACH THE SAME INTENT.
AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO, OBVIOUSLY FOR ALL OF US TO CONSIDER THAT, OKAY, I CAN'T COME UP WITH IT RIGHT NOW, BUT UM, IF, IF WE'RE OPEN TO, TO, UH, CLARIFYING THIS, THIS WORDING AND THEN THAT'LL BE FINE.
I HAD THE SAME CONCERN WITH THE, THE NEXT BULLET THAT SAYS THE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY FACES UNIQUELY DIFF DIFFICULT CHALLENGES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT UNIQUELY DIFFICULT MEANS.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THEIR, THEIR FAILURE AND LOSS WOULD HAVE THE GREATEST DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON THE CITIES.
JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
IS THAT JUST A, A RATING FACTOR THAT, AND MAYBE THE STAFF WILL ADDRESS THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH THEIR WHAT'S, THE WAY THAT THEY MAKE THE AWARDS, IS THAT THE THING STOP DOING THAT AND COMING BACK WITH ENHANCED STANDARDS IS ALISON WAS SAYING CERTAINLY ON THE DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, AT THE END TO JUDGE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE, ULTIMATELY THE DOLLARS GO, BUT LANGUAGE ABOUT FACING UNIQUELY DIFFICULT CHALLENGES, PIVOTING TO ALTERNATE OPERATING MODELS IS THE SECOND BULLET POINT OUT OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE.
SO AGAIN, I JUST TOOK THE LANGUAGE AND LOOKED IT OVER.
I UNDERSTAND THAT EASILY THEN I'M JUST SAYING, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT'S INTERPRETED, BUT I THINK THAT THE WAY TO ADDRESS THAT IS IF THE STAFF'S COMING BACK TO US BEFORE THEY MAKE THE AWARDS WITH THEIR POINT SYSTEM AND CRITERIA FOR, FOR, UM, MAKING THE AWARDS AND, AND UM, AND THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH IT AT THAT POINT.
BEFORE THEY MAKE THE FINAL AWARDS, I THINK THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN ASSOCIATED WITH ENHANCED STANDARDS.
MAYOR, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO GO PAST 10 O'CLOCK? IS THERE A MOTION TO GO PAST 10? I NEED EMOTION.
THAT'S WHAT HER TOVA MAKES THE MOTION.
I SECONDED ANY OBJECTION TO THE MINECRAFT 10.
SO I KEEP GOING, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
UM, 3.5, 3.51, UH, IF THE NUMBER OF ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS EXCEEDS 50, THEN THE CITY MAY NARROW THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA.
THAT ONE CAUSES ME SOME CONCERN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA IS GOING TO BE.
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TWO WHAT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO US SO THAT WE CAN CLARIFY THAT I DON'T MIND STAFF DOING THAT, BUT AGAIN, THE GOAL HERE IS TO, IS TO NOT KIND OF LIKE SPREAD PEANUT BUTTER, THIN AND WIDELY.IT'S ACTUALLY TO MARSHAL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE REALLY DRIVE SOME TRUE SAVING, SAVE SAME SURVIVABILITY OF THE INDUSTRY.
WE'RE AT THE STATE OF EVERYBODY IN THE PANDEMIC.
WE CAN'T LOSE THE MUSIC INDUSTRY, BUT I TELL YOU IF, YOU KNOW, BUT IF WE COULD SAVE A CORE ELEMENT OF IT AND PUT IT IN A POSITION SO THAT IT CAN ACTUALLY SURVIVE AND THRIVE IN THE INDUSTRY GOING FORWARD, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WIN AS OPPOSED TO JUST HELPING PEOPLE SURVIVE THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.
MY CONCERN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA IS, SO, UM, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.
BUT YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO, I HAVE TO COME BACK TO US ON FINAL AWARD.
SO WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY THAT? THEY MOVE IMMEDIATELY WITH EMERGENCY RELIEF SO THAT PEOPLE DON'T DIE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS WHILE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ELIGIBLE FOR IMMEDIATE AWARD.
I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
AND THE REASON I DO IS BECAUSE I KNOW SOME VENUES THAT GOT NOTHING LAST TIME AROUND BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE SET IT UP.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.
SO I WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE CRITERIA FOR IMMEDIATE AWARD? IS IT ONE THAT'S 3.52? IS THAT THE CRITERIA FOR IMMEDIATE? IT'S THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE IN THIS, THAT AS BEST AS IT IS, IT'S THE CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE FOR ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENT AND IN THE PROVISIONS WHERE WE WILL FIND WHO'S ELIGIBLE.
IT'S IN THE PURPOSE SECTION, IT'S THE BULLET POINTS WITH RESPECT TO, YES, IT'S THE THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM AND DEFINING WHO IT IS IT'S INTENDED TO HELP.
I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME MUSIC VENUES DID GET HELP AND SOME DIDN'T BECAUSE THE NEED WAS GREATER THAN THE FUNDS MOMENT.
LET ME FINISH THE MOMENT WE WERE IN AND THE PANDEMIC WAS BROAD HELP.
CAUSE WE WERE, WE WERE CLOSING DENTIST OFFICES.
AND I DON'T WANT US TO GET CONFUSED THAT SOMEHOW THE PROGRAMS WE DEVISED OR THAT THE WORK THAT STAFF DID WAS SOMEHOW FLAWED.
THE REALITY WAS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE LIMITED FUNDS.
AND THE REQUEST FOR FUNDING WAS SIX TO SEVEN TIMES GREATER THAN THE FUNDING THAT WE HAD.
AND WE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME SITUATION AGAIN IN LARGE PART BECAUSE GOVERNOR ABBOTT WON'T LET THE MONEY COME DOWN TO THE LOCALS TO SPEND IT RIGHT.
IT'S NOT ANY OF OUR FAULT THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY SITTING ON THE FUNDS.
AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL STAY ON THE SAME PAGE THERE BECAUSE AS WE TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, THIS IS NOT EASY.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT BUILT TO HAVE ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER CITY THAT DOES IT BETTER THAN AUSTIN.
WE JUST, WE JUST NEED THE GOVERNOR TO RELEASE THE FUNDS SO THAT THESE REALLY SPECIFICALLY AND CLOSELY DESIGNED SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE HERE ACTUALLY HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO HELP EVERYBODY.
UM, SO CAN SOMEONE REPLYING AGAIN? I HEAR THAT.
AND UM, I DID NOT INTEND TO, TO SAY THAT OUR STAFF DID ANYTHING THAT WAS FLAWED, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE THAT THERE WERE VENUES THAT DID NOT GET FUNDS BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE SET IT UP.
THERE WAS NOTHING, ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE WAY WE SET IT UP.
IT WAS NOT NEED BASED ENTIRELY.
IT WAS A LOTTERY FOR SOME OF IT.
AND SO I'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU OFFLINE BECAUSE I CAN GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE, BUT I DON'T THE EXAMPLES AGAIN, BECAUSE THE NEED IS NEED BASED.
WE JUST THERE'S THE NEED, THE NEED IS GREATER THAN OUR ABILITY TO MEET IT.
THERE'S GOING TO BE NEED THAT DOES NOT RECEIVE SUPPORT.
WELL, AND THAT'S WHY THAT, THAT IS WHY I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE'RE SETTING THE CRITERIA, BUT I'M HAVE COME BACK.
WHAT STAFF WILL INITIAL USES THE CRITERIA THAT'S SET OUT, VERY DEFINES THE, UH, THE, THE TYPES OF LIVE MUSIC VENUES AND THE CRITERIA TO ESTABLISH THE ONES THAT GET THE FUNDING AS WAS DESCRIBED TO THE WORK THAT WE DID SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
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ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS ITEM? 74? UH, YES, I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.UM, THAT THE OTHER, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I DO THINK I'M ASKING A LEGITIMATE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THE CRITERIA IS, AND I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH STAFF ON THAT.
UM, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT WE CAN'T MEET ALL THE NEEDS AND I NEVER SAID THAT WE WERE, AND I RECOGNIZE THAT OUR STAFF IS DOING A GREAT JOB.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UM, THAT I'LL BE ALLOWED TO SAY THAT.
AND I BE KNOW THAT THERE WERE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT, THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ADDRESSED.
AND SO I'LL TALK WITH THE STAFF ABOUT THAT OFFLINE.
I'M JUST UNCOMFORTABLE WITH, WITH GOING THROUGH WITH SOMETHING WHERE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CRITERIA IS AND FINE.
THIS QUESTIONS LET'S TAKE A VOTE ON 74 OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF 74, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
THAT WAS OPPOSED TO ANONYMOUS ON THE DICE.
[75. Approve a resolution to establish program guidelines for the Austin Legacy Business Relief Grant, a $5,000,000 program to help support Austin-based iconic live music venues, restaurants, and arts organizations impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic.]
I MOVE NOW ITEM 75.SO HER SECOND 75 COUNCIL MEMBER ELLIS SECOND SET.
UH, I'M GOING TO ADD THE SAME TWO AMENDMENTS THAT THE STAFF ASKS THAT WE MADE, THAT WE ADDED ON TO, UH, TO THE ONE BEFORE AT THE END OF 3.42, WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME LANGUAGE.
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY WHERE THEY FUNCTION TO PROVIDE FUNDING AND LEGAL AND FINANCIAL EXPERTISE TO BUSINESSES THAT NEED SHORT TERM EMERGENCY RELIEF TO ENABLE THE BUSINESSES TO STAY IN BUSINESS WHILE APPLYING FOR A LONGER TERM RELIEF FUNDS.
AND THE OTHER AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD ADD WOULD BE AT THE VERY END IT BE A NEW ITEM 0.0, UH, THAT WOULD BE ENTITLED, UM, CHAPTER THREE 80 AND OVER PROVIDE ANY CHAPTER THREE 80 PROGRAM BEING, UH, CREATED AND TO BE USED WITH THIS FUND SHALL INCLUDE PROVISION OF LEGAL AND FINANCIAL EXPERTISE FOR BUSINESSES WHO ARE SEEKING RELIEF TO THE PROGRAMS TO ASSIST IN SUCH MATTERS AS EXTENSION OF RENTAL RELIEF AND OTHER RELIEF THAT ENABLES THE BUSINESSES TO SURVIVE LONGTERM, ANY OBJECTIONS TO THOSE AMENDMENTS BEING ADDED, HEARING NONE.
THERE HADN'T, UH, ANY, UH, OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM, 75, YES.
SO I WANTED TO, UM, CLARIFY, SO YOU CUT OUT ART SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS, UM, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MUSEUMS ARE ELIGIBLE IF THEY FIT THE OTHER CRITERIA.
I THINK THEY'RE ARTS VENUES, BUT YEAH.
I THINK THAT THE MUSEUM WOULD BE AN ARTS VENUE.
UM, AND THEN AS I'M UNDERSTANDING THE WAY THAT YOU ARE SETTING IT UP, THERE'S KIND OF TWO LEVELS TO THE PROGRAM.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THIS IMMEDIATE STUFF WITH THE, UM, CASE MANAGEMENT TECHNICAL SUPPORT, THAT'S POTENTIALLY FUNDED OUT OF THE OTHER BUCKETS, BUT COULD BE FUNDED OUT OF THIS BUCKET.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THE SECOND STAGE IS TO BE REFINED MORE BUILDING OFF OF THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE IN HERE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AS QUICKLY LAUNCHED.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN OPTION OF, UM, KIND OF HOW ELSE TO DO THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO KIND OF GET UP AND RUNNING.
THAT'S ON THE SAME PEOPLE'S PLATE AND WE'RE PUTTING ALL OF THIS ON, UM, BIG ENOUGH TO HIRE SOMEBODY.
AND THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
UM, AND THE MORE AND MORE COMPLICATED THAT WE MAKE THIS, THE MORE RESTRICTIONS AND THE MORE GUIDELINES THAT WE PLACE ON IT, UM, THE HARDER IT IS GOING TO BE TO GET THE MONEY OUT OF THE DOOR, UM, AND THAT DELAY, UM, MAY HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
UM, I DON'T, I'M NOT SENSING THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER WAY FORWARD AT THIS POINT, UM, THAT WILL, UM, HELP US, BUT JUST, JUST, I AM CONCERNED AND REMAIN CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE SO MANY STRINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, THAT WE MAY MISS OUR TARGET.
UM, SO I JUST NEED TO SAY THAT, CAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE SAW WITH SOME OF THE OTHER GRANTS AND WHERE WE LEARNED, UM, SOME THINGS ABOUT HOW THEY WENT, UM, SOME OF THESE OTHER SMALLER UNIVERSE, LIKE THE NUMBER OF VENUES MAY BE A SMALLER UNIVERSE, THE NUMBER CHILDCARE THAT ONE WENT PRETTY SMOOTHLY, BUT EVEN THERE, WE HAD TO
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COME BACK TO GET, UM, REVISIONS AND, AND TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.AND SO I JUST, WE JUST HAVE TO GO INTO THIS WITH OPEN EYES, BUT THERE ARE TRADE OFFS, UM, FOR THIS.
AND, UM, SO I WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, AND THEN I WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH STAFF IF THEY WERE THINGS THAT NEEDED GREATER CLARITY SO THAT THEY COULD MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR ITEM 75, IF I COULD TOUCH BASE ON THE LAST POINT THAT YOU RAISED BEFORE YOU GO ONTO THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE GIVEN THE STAFF THE ABILITY TO COME BACK WITH AN INTERIM EXECUTION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND ASK THEM TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER THERE'S AN INTERIM PLAN THAT WOULD ENABLE IT TO BE UP AND RUNNING REAL QUICKLY.
UH, AND IT MAY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, HIRING SEVERAL PEOPLE WITH PARTICULAR EXPERTISE THAT COULD, UH, TAKE THAT STRUCTURE AND GET IT UP AND MOVING AT LEAST TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER, UH, THIS KIND OF PROGRAM, UH, THAT MAY BE SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT OF THE LONGER TERM, UH, STRUCTURE, UH, THAT, UM, UH, WILL EVENTUALLY BE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, BUT WILL TAKE A MUCH LONGER TIME TO, TO, TO PUT INTO PRACTICE.
AND I AM REALLY EAGER FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH THAT, UM, UH, QUICK INTERIM EMERGENCY STAND UP OF A, OF A, OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SO THAT IT CAN WORK QUICKLY, MAYOR.
I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IT'S ALL THE SAME PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, WE JUST STOOD UP FOR GRANT PROGRAMS TONIGHT.
UM, AND THEY'RE THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND ON OUR, ON OUR TEAM IS WONDERFUL.
AND I'VE HEARD RAVE REVIEWS OF HOW THEY'VE WORKED WITH DIFFERENT PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO GET STUFF DONE.
I JUST, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN DO.
AND SO I JUST THINK THERE ARE SOME TRADE OFFS HERE.
UM, AND, AND WE OUGHT TO GO IN WITH SOME OPEN EYES WHEN, WHEN WE EXPERIENCED DELAYS LATER AND I WASN'T DISAGREEING WITH ANY OF THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ADMONISHMENTS TO MAKE.
I WAS JUST PUTTING A PLUG IN SEPARATE AND PARALLEL TO THAT, TO STAY IN THE ED.
THEN I FOUND GOING INCORPORATION OF QUICKLY IN AN INTERIM WAY THAT MAY BE VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE LONGTERM IS IN ORDER TO GET IT UP AND GOING, THANK YOU.
AND I WOULD STILL LIKE TO OFFER MS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, AND ARE, AGAIN, I THINK ARE WHAT IS MOST HELPFUL FOR US AS CLARITY AND WHAT THE ENHANCED GUIDELINES LOOK LIKE IN REGARDS TO THOSE AND ALSO THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR FUND, I'M MAKING SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT IS AN ELIGIBLE, UM, INDUSTRY, OUR APPLICANTS.
UM, SO ANY GUIDANCE ON THAT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
WE APPRECIATE THE GRACE IN THAT WE ARE SEEDING UP MULTIPLE THINGS AT ONCE.
AND SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL AS WE PUSHING AHEAD.
BUT WE, I, AS I'VE SAID A FEW TIMES TONIGHT, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT OUR BANDWIDTH OF OUR TEAM AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR, UM, TURNING WORDS, SHIP ITS STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING TO STAND UP, NOT JUST SAID THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF US, BUT THE PROGRAMS THAT THEY'VE DONE, IT'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAN I COMMEND THE STAFF FOR ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT IN THEIR HEARTS THAT THEY PUT INTO THE PROGRAMS. AND SO IT'S MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED TO DO THESE PROGRAMS JUST AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU ANY FURTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM, 75 COUNCIL MEMBER KITCHEN, UM, START IT OUT BY SAYING THAT WE WERE GOING TO POSTPONE 75, SO I'M, I'M FINE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
AS LONG AS WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE THERE'S TWO PIECES TO IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE IMMEDIATE ASSISTANCE.
AND THEN THERE'S THE, THE GOAL FOR THE LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S A LOT WRITTEN IN HERE THAT NEEDS SOME MORE, UM, SOME MORE CLARITY WITH REGARD TO THE LONGER TERM ASSISTANCE.
AND GIVEN THAT IT'S 10 30, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH ALL THAT, I'M HAPPY TO, UM, TO JUST SAY LET'S SET UP A PROCESS THAT WE CAN, WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS WITH REGARD TO THE LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY, IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN SAY THAT, THEN, THEN I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO BE AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LANGUAGE RIGHT NOW.
SO IF WE COULD SET UP A PROCESS JUST LIKE WE DID, OH, 94,
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WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, STAFF COMING BACK TO US WITH REGARD TO THE AWARD CRITERIA, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN BRING AMENDMENTS, UH, TO THE DESCRIPTION AROUND THE LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY, UM, OR MAYBE IT'S NOT AMENDMENTS, MAYBE IT'S, UM, A NEW RESOLUTION OR SOMETHING OR WHATEVER THE RIGHT FORMAT IS.UM, I THINK WE NEED MORE WORK ON THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE LONGER TERM SUSTAINABILITY.
SO, AND SINCE WE WERE GOING TO ORIGINALLY POSTPONE THIS ANYWAY, I, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WERE DOING IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE IMMEDIATE, BUT COMING BACK WITH THE LANGUAGE AROUND A LONGER TERM, SUSTAINABLE, IS THAT THE INTENT? AND CAN WE DO THAT? YES, JUST LIKE IN 74, IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO MEET THE INTENT, WE NEED TO FIND IT AND THERE'S THERE'S WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UH, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE WORD THAT, UH, 2% USE ENHANCED A GUIDELINE I THINK IS, IS ISRAEL.
I WOULDN'T MAKE THE CHANGE IN THIS ONE THAT WE MADE IN 74 TO CHANGE ONLY.
SO THAT REFLECTS THAT CHANGE THAT YOU HAD BROUGHT UP EARLIER.
WELL, THE OTHER TWO, THE OTHER CHANGES I'M NOT GOING TO BE AS CONCERNED ABOUT, BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME CRITERIA IN HERE THAT ARE NOT, THAT ARE, THAT MAKE GOOD SENSE FOR IMMEDIATE, BUT DON'T MAKE GOOD SENSE FOR LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
SO, UM, TOM I'LL, UM, SO, UM, DOES HIS STAFF CLEAR ON THAT THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK, UH, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT RELATES TO THE LAW? IT'S A BETTER WAY TO, TO, TO, TO, TO MEET 10TH OF THIS, LET'S FIND IT.
AND I RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT WRONG SPECIFICITY AS THE DIRECTOR AND, AND THIS ISN'T THE CITY MANAGER ASKED FOR, IT WILL BE HELPFUL.
WELL, I'M HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT.
AND, AND, UM, I THINK THAT I COULD BRING SOMETHING BACK BY THE 29TH, UM, OR PERHAPS WORK INFORMALLY WITH THE STAFF AND THEN ON THE 29TH, IF WE NEEDED TO ACTUALLY, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO ADOPT SOME CHANGES, WE COULD DO THAT ON THE 29TH, OR IT COULD BE
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANT THE STAFF TO HAVE SO TOO LONG.
AS SOON AS SOMEBODY CAN BRING IT OR, AND IT MAY BE THAT ACTUALLY WE ACTUALLY, AS THEY ACTUALLY GET INTO IT, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS, WE'LL LEARN AS WE GO THROUGH AND THEY CAN BETTER FASHION CRITERIA, BUT THIS GETS US GOING ANY FURTHER CHECK 75 VOTES THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENTS AT 75, IT'S NOT TO POSTPONE 75 IT'S TO MAKE THESE AMENDMENTS EVERYBODY'S RAISED YOUR HAND.
THAT WAS OPPOSED TO THAT JOB THREE PROGRAMS. THAT MEANS THERE'S ONLY ONE THING LEFT
[80. Approve a resolution directing the City Manager to establish a Visitor Information Center Fund that provides seed funding to allow the Austin Economic Development Corporation (AEDC) to implement as an initial project Visitor Information Center acquisition, construction, improvement, enlarging, equipping, repairing, operations, and maintenance as provided for under Texas Tax Code Sections 351.001(8) and 351.101.]
AND THAT'S 80.UM, THAT'S SOME OF OUR KITCHEN.
I WANT TO, I WANT TO SPEAK TO 80, BUT BEFORE I SPEAK TO IT, LET ME SAY THAT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST POSTPONING IT, UH, BECAUSE I THINK IT, UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, IT'S 10 30 AND WE NEED TO HAVE, I DON'T THINK NOW'S THE TIME TO TAKE IT UP.
UM, I THINK WE CAN POSTPONE IT, UM, AND, AND, AND HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION WITH IT, UM, UH, IN THE FUTURE.
UH, BUT LET ME JUST SPEAK TO IT.
SOME, I THINK THAT OUR, OUR CONVERSATION, UM, UM, I THINK OUR CONVERSATION ALL NIGHT HAS REALLY BEEN ABOUT, UH, ABOUT RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF SUSTAINING OUR ICONIC, UM, BUSINESSES OR ICONIC, UM, MUSIC VENUES AND OTHER BUSINESSES.
UM, AND BECAUSE, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE WHO WE ARE AS AUSTIN, THEY ESTABLISH OUR BRAND, THEY, UM, THEY, UH, ESTABLISH OUR DRAW FROM A TOURISM PERSPECTIVE, UM, AND THEY MAKE US, UH, SPECIAL AS A CITY.
SO, UM, AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL NIGHT IS THAT WE RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.
UM, I THINK THE DISCUSSION WE JUST HAD AROUND 74 AND 75 RELATED TO LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY SPEAKS TO THAT.
SO, UH, ITEM 80 IS ABOUT A WAY TO, UM, IT'S ABOUT AN IDEA FOR HOW WE MIGHT, UM, ADD TO AND FURTHER SUPPORT LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE AGREEMENT AS A, UM, AS A COUNCIL THAT THAT'S A GOAL FOR US, UM, HOW WE DO IT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK THROUGH.
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SO, UM, I WILL JUST, UM, UH, UM, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE POSTPONE THIS ONE.UM, AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK AFTER WE THINK ABOUT THE APPROACH TO THE LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY, AND ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW IT MIGHT INTERACT WITH, UH, 75 GRANTING THE MOTION TO POSTPONE IT, ALL MY EMOTION, ANY INSTRUCTION, JUST BEING POSTPONE, POSTPONE ANNOUNCEMENT OF FLAT.
AGAIN, YOU CAN JUST KNOW MY OBJECTION TO THE POSTPONEMENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? AND THIS MEETING IS A JOURNEY.